I am a woman and I set up 10 of these by myself...with 4 of them side by side as a grape arbor. You really only need one secure T-post centered on each side. I live on the heartland prairie where the wind blows stakes over like toothpicks, and these trellises ain't goin' nowhere. They are also wonderful for indeterminate tomatoes. Good job!
@@aluna167 I spaced the T-posts for each cattle panel 4 feet apart with 6-8 inches on the sides. This makes the arch about 7 feet tall in the center. My best investment was a post driver, lolol. This is the 3rd year for the vines on the arbor and going strong. Pruning the vines for this type of trellis has been a learning experience that varies with the type of grapes planted, but so far so good. Best of luck to you!
@@darlyzumo I had a very kind neighbor bring 4 in his truck after I bought them. I wanted 6 more, and offered to pay a Tractor Supply employee - who lived a few miles from me - to deliver them to me. Where there's a will... :-)
Luke I am laughing my butt off at this! I rented a Uhaul - I also bought 25 of these panels. Massive garden going in this year! Some seeds are from your store! Thanks for your videos.
I put mine in this year after watching Jess and miah! My husband thought I had lost my mind but now it’s beautiful!!! We have a truck and so we bent the panel in the trellis shape and walked back into the bed of the truck - for those that have trucks.
I've been watching that video & I want one, too. I still need to convince my family, though and I'm not sure it will fit where I want it. It would have to span about 5 feet (a 3' walkway and cement brick borders on either side). How wide is yours at the bottom?
I have seen many videos about the setting up of the trellis, but you are the only one showing how the average person can transport these home. For me the getting it home part had been a prohibitive factor, until this video. Seeing it draped over your car was a true inspiration.
Tractor Supply, Atwoods, and other retailers include 5 metal clips with each T-post purchased. The associates often forget to include them, so be sure to ask about them. They also go on sale several times a year!
We bought our cattle panels 1 week ago. The first guy we spoke to said "no" clips are not included. He was pretty rude and not helpful at all..he opened the gate and left us alone to get our own stuff. A second guy came by and asked if we needed help - he offered the clips to us. So the clips should be included - don't take "no" for an answer. Thank you for letting us know about the clips....they came in very handy in attaching the panel to the T-Post. My arched trellises look beautiful and i planted indeterminate tomatoes. I'm new to planting veggies, so wish me luck! 😊😊☺
@@flowerpower2079 what a shlep! I am a woman, ans I would never stand for that. I go to the supervisor, manager or inside and have them call where the mgr is. of course i am greater than 70, but good manners always tell. an unhappy customer is worth 10 good ones. get rid of that deadwood or doc him up with some happier pills. I love Michigan, no time for ruders!
Saw a genius idea in some comments on another video. Use an extendable aluminum ladder on top of your roof to keep the cattle panel from flopping around and from potentially scratching the vehicle. Worked like a charm.
I use 2 in my garden and LOVE them. I grow my cucumbers, winter squash, tomatoes, green beans, mini cantaloupe and mini watermelon! They are a way to maximize my limited garden space!
@@doloresreynolds8145 Yes we did this at my old house, we went from the top of the arch to the end of the beds. Then on each side of the arch creating a door. We would have about a couple of feet (2-3) of loose straw on top of the beds for insulation. We would harvest our cold weather veggies through out the winter. Where he has his arches on the short end of the beds, we had ours on the wide side of the beds. Plus I would harvest from the outside working my way to the arch.
I put up 4 cattle panel trellises two years ago and absolutely love them. It was so easy that I could do it all on my own. Secured them to the T-posts with both plastic zip-ties and some wire at the top of each post. Indeterminate tomatoes, cukes, peas, pole beans all have done very well on them. They definitely will last forever as they don't rust. Three of the units are in a side yard that is visible from the road. Many neighbours have commented very favourably as they are very attractive. The fruits/veggies are very easy to pick. Here in Canada they do cost quite a bit more though... but are still well worth the price.
I'm hoping to buy my supplies at Tractor Supply this weekend! I had been looking at trellises and couldn't find anything under $300. This video is a Godsend! It's going to cost me $28.99 to make one. What a huge savings for such a sturdy & awesome trellis. I'm going to buy two. Thank you. 😊🌼
Took bolt cutters to tractor supply, cut the panel into 3 pieces, then brought them home and rolled them for the sturdiest tomato cages ever. Love these panels, and love this channel!!! Thanks always!
Just did this for our grapes today. Bought the fencing at tractor supply and the price was the same as in your video. They worked perfectly! The wife is very happy with all of my "hard" work.😂
I made a few of these a couple of years ago. I love them. They are worth every penny. This year I made 8 feet tall tomato cages with them. The cattle panel are awesome for gardening.
Very simple project. I liked it . Just a note on safety. I would advise people to wear gloves and closed toed shoes. Have worked in construction for 40 years and I've seen many cuts and scrapes that proper shoes and gloves could have prevented.
I’ve been thinking about doing this w/2 panels joined in the middle of the arch to support a giant bougainvillea planted by our front door right on the walkway. It’s way too big for where it’s planted & has nothing to climb or support it. So it’s always leaning forward blocking our front door. It’s a gorgeous shrub, but it’s gigantic & dangerous w/the thorns. I thought I’d try to arbor it like this before spending the money on cutting it down & removing the stump. You helped me visualize better what I pictured in my mind. It’s also helpful to see the panel & realize the size, thickness, etc. Your timing was spot on as usual! Thanks again!
Crazy how much prices have gone up. I’m doing this and the same cattle panels are now $29.99 each at tractor supply. Still much cheaper than other alternatives!
These work great & last forever! I have 3 of these set up in my raised garden. Two of them I've had for over 20 years. Left overs from our horse corral. I plant pole beans, cucumbers, cantaloupe & small pumpkins on mine. For tomatoes, I set them up straight like a fence and tie/wind my vines through them.
Definitely put in posts or some kind of support! If you don’t, the very first high wind will possible bend it out of the arch shape or even to the point of collapsing. I learned from another persons mistake. I use hose clamps to affix mine to the posts. Makes it easier to disassemble since I’m in a community garden and may move plots at some point.
Tip: you can bend your panel before transporting in the arch you want and secure with tie straps, bungee cords, etc. then when you are ready to install it will be more cooperative.
This is very cool and I can see it can be multi-purposed. It could be painted too if using in a flower garden to make it look more fancy. Once covered, it'll be gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Luke, Great video, only change I made with my arch was took the ends into the box about a foot to allow sowing seeds on the inside of the arch for easy access. Great project, absolutely love your channel and cannot wait for next years garden so I can grow my Migardener heirloom tomatoes I purchased this year. Keep up the great work. Peace
Thank you for this video! You inspired me to put mine up all by myself! (A 5'4 woman!) :) Had help getting them to my house, but by following your instructions, I now have two arbors put up. Just need to decide where to put the third. Really enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing your talents and skills with the world!
We put three together with 7 ft. T posts. I put it 16" from ground so plants have to grow to it. It looks great in my garden.. I planted my seedlings on outside of trellis. Cukes, cherry tomatoes, watermelon and asparagus beans on one side. Cukes, pear tomatoes, watermelons, and snap peas on other side. It is quite tall. I spent aprox. $21 each for panels and $5 per posts(10). Very sturdy. It will last forever. I will build another trellis next year. Vertical gardening is my goal this year for the ease of growing my plants.
So cool to see you adding these to your garden! We have been using them for 2 years now and they really changed our small city lot growing space. So much more can be done when growing vertical as much as possible. I use a different method and have 8 ft panels zip tied at the top. I plan on cutting them come fall and bending the panels over the beds to use as a low tunnel for fall. Good stuff Luke!
I appreciate you sharing the labor involved building this trellis. From getting the panel home, to carrying it in the garden to bending it in place. Thank you.
Put up two of these earlier this spring. GREAT for tomatoes. beans, cucumbers. Melons required the addition of individual fruit hammocks. I used one T post in the center of the panel and it is secure enough. I also used zip ties, since it was a trial and I will move them about the garden from time to time in the future. Using one T post in the center of each side of the panel in the raised beds putting the T post in the center of the short side of the raised bed, even when I move the arch to a new home in future seasons the T post will remain as a support for a center of the raised bed trellis attached to, yes, another T post in the center of the other end of the raised bed (which can also serve as the support fora future location of the cattle panel arch). Wow, I just realized I did a garden hack before you did! You are going to fall in love with them as you increase production without having to add additional garden bed space!
Looks great Luke! I did the same. Unfortunately Tractor supply is not near me here on Long Isalnd, but my local fee store was happy to order it and since I ordered about 15 panels, they delivered it for about $25. they are amazing!!!
I recently saw a UA-cam video of a lady who first zip tied a 2X4X12 to each luggage rack on the top of her minivan and then zip tied the cattle fencing to the 2x4x12s. The 2x4x12s kept the cattle panels from sagging over her vehicle and prevented any possible scratches.
As a creator I believe Jess from Roots and Refuge farms thought of this first. We are a small community on UA-cam and need to help each other out and give credit due to the creators. Jess has mentioned you and your channel many times and I believe you should return the favor. I have the cattle panels too and love them. Thank you for all the videos. You have helped my garden grow!
I know someone that's been doing this for years. He could have thought of this idea independently, you don't know he watched another channel. And it's not a novel idea, people do all kinds of stuff with cattle panels.
Thank you for the idea on how to get the panels home! I was at my local farm supply and going crazy trying to figure out how to get 16 feet of 16 gauge fencing home! With my little SUV. I dont have a roof rack so we decided to use blankets and rug padding to help prevent sliding, as well as weaving strapping through the fence and latching the straps inside of the car. Thanks from a Minnesota gardener, I appreciate the time you take to share info with all of us.
MIGardener I have my cattle panel trellises over the 4 foot walkway between my raised beds. The trellises are on the north side of the garden. So the shade does not affect my other beds.
I know this video is a year old, so you may not see my comment. But, I definitely want to make several cattle panel arches next Spring! How much room would you say is between your two beds you arched it over? About 4 feet or so? That would affect how much height you'd have under the walkway & I want to make sure I have it high enough. Thanks! Love your channel! :)
Luke great cattle panel arbor trellis. I would have loved to see the look on your face while you were driving with those 16 foot cattle panels on your roof. I bet you that was priceless.
This is a riot, I’m a fellow West MI Gardner and I literally just did this about 3 weeks ago! Tractor supply, all of it! It’s awesome and so glad you did a video on it!
I'm about to do this for this for my wife's garden. If you put the cross bars on the outside of the arch then you can hook the crossbars with the post those little hooks. Then it will secure better. Thank you 👍
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! We have been looking for a way to do something like this with our grape plants and this looks like it will work perfectly.
I'm an old lady gardener....where are your loves young man? Oh, thanks for the clear instructions....I'm doing this this summer,,for pole beans including asparagus beans,yeah! You're my man.... You just answered a question I have been trying to find an answer for, which way to turn it? North/South make perfect sense. Ive watched at least 15 tutorials on building one of these....NOBODY in any of them told us which way to set it up. Thx so much
It is June 2020, man this is really cool idea, I have been using Stainless Steel Lashing Wire | .045, TYPE 302 to make my treliss, but this is geat idea, my cost in GA is $41.50. Thank you
I was lucky enough to inherit a nice cattle panel, which I use in my 16’ bed for a trellis. I also use circles of cement reinforcement mesh (6” holes) for tomato cages. It would not be heavy duty enough for an arched trellis, though, unless you support it well with steel fence posts....
Hi! I’m building the beds into which I want to incorporate the cattle panel arch, but can’t find out how far apart to space the beds for a decent arch height...how wide is the path under it? Thanks!
I made an arbor like this. An Amish farmer taught me...easy peasy. Good job. I used cable ties to secure it, and those worked very well. Yep, mine was for pole beans too. : )
I love The idea. I have a suggestion for tiring the panel to the T-post. You can buy metal clips designed for wire and metal fencing and do not forget the wire fence pliers.
I build green houses using cattle panels. Take the plastic off in spring grow tomatoes beans squash water melon . Then plastic back on in fall grow greens in winter.
😄 We bought concrete wire at Lowes so it would fit in the SUV. People were pointing and laughing but it makes the best trellis for tomatoes, beans, cukes, and melons for our garden. 💕
We use the same thing for that purpose, works great! I bent the panel into a half arch and attached to our wire fencing with large binder clips of all things. Easy to take down and move. Cukes love it. I am ab,e to see them better and pull hanging fruit!!!!
All right man. I’m in Marshall and have a couple of large trailers if you get too crazy. About to break ground on a giant raised bed living soil project and needed the gap measures once the panel is bent.
I made a couple of cattle panel trellises this year, too. The hardest part was getting them home through the Chicago suburbs on top of the minivan. I used 2 16' 2x4's to extend the roof rack over the hood, and prevent the back end from dragging on the ground. With the 2x4's it was very stable and had no issues at all. Highly recommend using them!
You might want to spend 3 bucks on fence clips designed to work with t-posts. A fence fork runs about ten bucks and it will save your fingers. That will secure the post properly and permanently. I use cattle panels for tomatoes and peas, and the t-post clips work much better (and are safer) than wire.
I have four of these set up in my vegetable garden. I only used one T-Post on each end and secured the cattle panel to it with heavy duty zip-ties. These are strong enough for me to hang by my hands and swing on - they ain’t goin’ anywhere. Very strong. I am training tomatoes, winter squashes and beans on them this year. Oh, and like Wise Dove, I put these up single handed - a bit of a stretch for this 60+ year old but I got it done.
This was a great idea. I love when you work (show and tell) in front of the camera. The message is stronger that way. . . and yes, I am a teacher and parent who finds this the key way to send a message.
3 years ago that was such a good price! I'm doing this and watching this in 2024 and it looks like it will run me $45.00 each. The cattle panels run about $25 a piece now and the 6 ft t-posts are around $5 a piece now.
Good morning MIgardener from New Hampshire! First time viewing your channel. Yes, Roots & Refuge did a stellar job with their cattle panels. We raise cattle, but no cattle panels. Those panels are on my list for an abor. If you can't procure a small pick up truck, what about a trailer? Handy for an avid gardener. We are farmers, so our only car has been stored in the tractor garage for about a dozen years! Great to see your yard full of raised beds! I will follow your channel with interest, as I am installing a raised bed garden next to our house in the woods. All the best!
I use concrete reinforcing mesh as a trellis for my butternut squash, and it works quite well. It does rust, but hasn't done any harm to my plants or me. I also keep an ample supply of large zip ties for securing fencing to my posts.
About transporting the panels...no drama needed! I used 4 short bungie cords to secure to my Ford Explorer roof rack and ALSO 4 longer ones to front bumper and trailer hitch. Nary a wiggle or jiggle the whole way home. Trick is in the tension. (All 8 sold in a box for $6.99- small price to pay for safety.)
My mom's wooden arbor bit the wind in the last hurricane. So glad I found your video. I'm going to purchase the items at Lowe's and put it up to surprise her. Thank you for sharing!
We used the 12 ft. panels but attached them about two feet up on the t posts. We used 5 panels making the arbor 20 ft long. I made the open ends face east and west to get sunlight inside. I canned 134 quarts of green beans from one arbor.😊
Where you're doing it between raised beds you can also use screws and metal pipe hanger strap to secure the wire to the wood. Worked great for my duck pens
Only thoughts I'd contribute would be your trellis is inside out. If a weld fails is falls away, if inverted this spring if a weld fails it is still resting against the longer strand still supporting it in place.
I have been loving my cattle panels this year. I'm trying melons for the first time and they are doing so well on the cattle panels. I've got my tomatoes on straight 8 foot cattle panels as well. Looking forward to seeing yours in action!
Please try the Asian yard-long bean/chopstick bean/long bean. You will not believe how productive these beans are. I got two quarts every three days, all summer long, from 20 vines planted on 6" centers. They are great stir-fried, pickled, steamed, or cooked in casseroles. They make a 24-inch to 36-inch bean, almost faster than you can use them. They are a great candidate for your trellis.
That's awesome, we are planning on doing a bunch of these soon to. Building supplies work great in the garden, we also use 10 foot rebar for our tomato stakes and they've worked great for years.
For people who have trouble transporting you can get 2 x 8 foot panels and lash them together at the top. It's not quite as tall or pretty, but much easier to lash to the roof of the car.
I've been wanting to do this for a long time. I looked at Menards and tried to explain what I wanted but didn't't get anywhere.. The fact that you gave me a location where to try to purchase this cattle panel is exactly what I wanted. I plan to build concrete raised beds on the outside of the castle panels which will anchor the ends of the panels. Very excited for this next challenge.
Julie, I would nix the concrete raised beds. I a. A landscaper and often finds the concrete gets so hot that it cooks the water and roots in about 6 inches. I have actually installed 3/4 in foam insulation to try to save the plants, flowers and grasses that are next to concrete. In Indiana. I use wood frames, freezing dies not hurt wood either
@@billjones5178 Thanks for the input. I currently am using wood frames but wood does rot. I currently have at least one family of moles living underneath my raised bed. I'm tearing down an old building soon and had hoped to put cattle panels over the top of the on grade concrete but hope to put down several inches of wood chips on top of the concrete pad to keep things hydrated and not a major source of heat. I am currently building a concrete pad for a mail box and I thought about lining the outside of the pad with concrete raised panels where I would plant flowers that would bloom throughout the growing season. I have a half dozen beautiful green plants growing on the North side of the building to come down and was hoping to transplant them. Based on your information about cooking the plants, I imagine these large leaf plants won't survive in concrete raised gardens. Thanks for your help.
Julie Gurley I get pressure 2x6x6 at Menards That are notched or V grouved on edges. I gut to a 12 ft and 4 foot piece and make a 4x12 ft raised bed. I am not worried about the toxicity of wood, but I stapled a plastic wall liner in inside walls to increase life of wood. I am expecting 15 years life. I too had lots of moles. I put 1/4” galvanized wire staples inside and across bottom of 5 raised beds. Allows for water to drain down, and much Roth activity to chase the soil below, I have 12” raised bed and add another 6 inch of height wood & soil each year as Time & money allows. I put 3x3” post in 4 corners 36 inches tall to bolt to and ties strings etc to. I like the expanding bed as some free top soil comes a available. I just grab it, add a layer of wood edging , and up it goes Another 6” Wood is style often used in horse stalls as hick proof, pre grouved and in stock.
I'll look for notched or V grooved pressure treated woods at Menards next time I go there. Some woods are stable in ground contact, some are not as what is used in decks. Each have different chemicals pressure treating the woods. Most pressure treated woods are soft woods.
This was a bit careless: 1) You should have a red flag on any load that extends beyond your vehicle like that. You can get, and deserve, a ticket for not doing so. The red flag aids depth perception and attracts attention to something usually not extended from a vehicle. Would you be ticked off if you ran into this extension? 2) A 55 mph road often has a minimum speed, regardless of using hazard lights. He didn’t say how fast he drove, and it was only "5 miles", but it had to be a slow speed to not risk the load shifting (into another vehicle?!). 3) This WAS slightly click bait: Those 4 T posts cost about $5 each, making it about $45 total. I watched to find out how the panel was secured at no cost (It wasn’t). That said, I like cattle panels for trellising.
Very nice! My wife loves her cukes...this year the plants are reaching higher than our 4' high trellises, so the arch has to be a winner. You may have added a red flag to the back of your panel for the ride home. Thnx for sharing.
My seeds came today they came pretty quick and they were packaged very nicely an excellent price thank you mi Gardner crew and also the prices are unbelievable everyone should buy their seeds from Mi Gardner thank you
The arbor looks great. Glad you made it home safe. Where I live the law states that you have to tie red flags to anything that hangs more than 3 feet off the back of your vehicle. Wondered if that had something to do with people honking at you? Also wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. All your knowledge and enthusiasm make you a great teacher.
I did this this past summer. The only thing I didn't like about it is I had mine ground level and weeding in my beds between and through the panel was a serious pain. Next year I will raise them above the ground high enough to get my hand completely and easily under it.
I’ve been wanting to do this for over a year now, since seeing it on Roots and Refuge. Congratulations! It looks awesome. Like you I want to use them for pole beans. I’m almost did it yesterday when I saw the panels were on sale at TSC but chickened out because I drive a Hyundai Sonata. And it’s a 15 mile drive. Through a busy city. Oh well. Citystead bent them in half, and tied with ratchet straps to get them inside his SUV. I’m female, handicapped, 56 yo and not very strong but I am sure tempted because I want a few of these so bad!
Thank you so much for this video! I think it is one of the best how to videos I have seen. I especially appreciate you showing how you transported and carried that gosh darn panel!
I put mine over top my 4x8 raised beds in an A frame configuration. It's a great support trellis for my heavy 7 ft San Marzano and Rousselini plants. It also is a great way to put a plastic tarp over the plants to protect them from heavy prolonged rain and wind. Best system I've ever used. BTW, I got my seed from you and the plants are amazing. The Rousselini plants are massive with thick strong main stems. It's now August and any signs of blight or spot was eliminated at first sight. My plants are amazing and very very healthy. Yields will be phenomenal.
Personally if I can sandwich them between two beds I'd do that stuck in the ground but instead of Tposts I'd just screw something simple to hold the cattle pannel down to the wood board of the beds. Id probably go for metal pipe straps to to secure them I've used that lately for something similar and worked great
here in Canada I paid 75$$ per panel. I tie a string/cord to one end and bend it to the degree I want and tie off the cord to form it into a horseshoe shape. I then put a pallet on top of the cording and load it with plants. I use them as greenhouses. Then I lay it flat, attach the plastic and cover that with BirdE Fence or more cord and then put them up as mentioned. They work really well.
I subscribed just because of how he got the cattle panels home. I like this guy's style. 🤣
I would've taken my phone out and started recording. 🤣🤣
Seriously!! I was wondering how to get em home tomorrow too lmbo!!
I had to rent a trailer at Tractor and Supplies. The same place where I got my cattle panels and T-posts
Same
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I am a woman and I set up 10 of these by myself...with 4 of them side by side as a grape arbor. You really only need one secure T-post centered on each side. I live on the heartland prairie where the wind blows stakes over like toothpicks, and these trellises ain't goin' nowhere. They are also wonderful for indeterminate tomatoes. Good job!
You go girl! I'm a single woman as well and you have inspired me!
I'm looking for wine arches too, this is a great idea
@@aluna167 I spaced the T-posts for each cattle panel 4 feet apart with 6-8 inches on the sides. This makes the arch about 7 feet tall in the center. My best investment was a post driver, lolol. This is the 3rd year for the vines on the arbor and going strong. Pruning the vines for this type of trellis has been a learning experience that varies with the type of grapes planted, but so far so good. Best of luck to you!
How do you transport them from store to home?
@@darlyzumo I had a very kind neighbor bring 4 in his truck after I bought them. I wanted 6 more, and offered to pay a Tractor Supply employee - who lived a few miles from me - to deliver them to me. Where there's a will... :-)
Tractor supply will discount the ones that are damaged. I was able to get some for 10.00 each🤗
I got 4'x50' wire fencing for my garden for 1/2 off due to damage at Tractor Supply. Some Steals if you can find them.
Wow i didnt know that. Thats a great deal
Luke I am laughing my butt off at this! I rented a Uhaul - I also bought 25 of these panels. Massive garden going in this year! Some seeds are from your store! Thanks for your videos.
I put mine in this year after watching Jess and miah! My husband thought I had lost my mind but now it’s beautiful!!!
We have a truck and so we bent the panel in the trellis shape and walked back into the bed of the truck - for those that have trucks.
I've been watching that video & I want one, too. I still need to convince my family, though and I'm not sure it will fit where I want it. It would have to span about 5 feet (a 3' walkway and cement brick borders on either side).
How wide is yours at the bottom?
brought home 2 the same way.
Could possibly work inside back of SUV depending on size. 😃🤞🏽
@@miriamrobarts It can be as wide as you want, but the height will be affected. It may end up being only 6 1/2’ high, with the width you suggest.
Excellent idea!
Today, these cost TWICE AS MUCH at $50 per trellis. 😞 Gardening is getting expensive, but I'm an addict!
Was thinking the same thing. Just got some the other day
I have seen many videos about the setting up of the trellis, but you are the only one showing how the average person can transport these home. For me the getting it home part had been a prohibitive factor, until this video. Seeing it draped over your car was a true inspiration.
Tractor Supply, Atwoods, and other retailers include 5 metal clips with each T-post purchased. The associates often forget to include them, so be sure to ask about them. They also go on sale several times a year!
Thank you! I'm definitely going to ask for those metal clips. So if I get those clips, does that mean that i don't need to but metal wire? 🌼
We bought our cattle panels 1 week ago. The first guy we spoke to said "no" clips are not included. He was pretty rude and not helpful at all..he opened the gate and left us alone to get our own stuff. A second guy came by and asked if we needed help - he offered the clips to us. So the clips should be included - don't take "no" for an answer. Thank you for letting us know about the clips....they came in very handy in attaching the panel to the T-Post.
My arched trellises look beautiful and i planted indeterminate tomatoes. I'm new to planting veggies, so wish me luck! 😊😊☺
@@flowerpower2079 what a shlep! I am a woman, ans I would never stand for that. I go to the supervisor, manager or inside and have them call where the mgr is. of course i am greater than 70, but good manners always tell. an unhappy customer is worth 10 good ones. get rid of that deadwood or doc him up with some happier pills. I love Michigan, no time for ruders!
@@flowerpower2079 Use those clips to connect each panel to the next. It makes it much sturdier.😊
Saw a genius idea in some comments on another video. Use an extendable aluminum ladder on top of your roof to keep the cattle panel from flopping around and from potentially scratching the vehicle. Worked like a charm.
Connect each section with metal clips. It makes them very sturdy. No swaying in the wind.
I use 2 in my garden and LOVE them. I grow my cucumbers, winter squash, tomatoes, green beans, mini cantaloupe and mini watermelon! They are a way to maximize my limited garden space!
You should be able to place heavy duty plastic over it and use it like a hoop house for winter and early spring sowing.
Instant greenhouse
What a great idea!
Except Luke’s is covering his walkway, rather than a bed.
@@doloresreynolds8145 Yes we did this at my old house, we went from the top of the arch to the end of the beds. Then on each side of the arch creating a door. We would have about a couple of feet (2-3) of loose straw on top of the beds for insulation. We would harvest our cold weather veggies through out the winter. Where he has his arches on the short end of the beds, we had ours on the wide side of the beds. Plus I would harvest from the outside working my way to the arch.
"...people laughed and snickered and looked at me funny, but we got it here and that's all that matters" - I like you. :)
I put up 4 cattle panel trellises two years ago and absolutely love them. It was so easy that I could do it all on my own. Secured them to the T-posts with both plastic zip-ties and some wire at the top of each post. Indeterminate tomatoes, cukes, peas, pole beans all have done very well on them. They definitely will last forever as they don't rust. Three of the units are in a side yard that is visible from the road. Many neighbours have commented very favourably as they are very attractive. The fruits/veggies are very easy to pick. Here in Canada they do cost quite a bit more though... but are still well worth the price.
I'm hoping to buy my supplies at Tractor Supply this weekend!
I had been looking at trellises and couldn't find anything under $300. This video is a Godsend! It's going to cost me $28.99 to make one. What a huge savings for such a sturdy & awesome trellis. I'm going to buy two. Thank you. 😊🌼
Took bolt cutters to tractor supply, cut the panel into 3 pieces, then brought them home and rolled them for the sturdiest tomato cages ever. Love these panels, and love this channel!!! Thanks always!
How do you roll them, or are they easy to do without specialized equipment?
For Aussies out there, they’re called “reo mesh”. Cattle panels for us are non-flexible cattle gates.
Margo Belle-Fleur reo is different. It doesn’t flex like this. What he has is just a mesh panel. Reo is made much heavier and thicker then this
@@erinthearteest2107 so what do we in OZ need to ask for?
@@petergilfillan8340 I am just going to go to Bunnings and show the bloke in the garden bit the video.
He will know😁
In Pennsylvania we call them a "pig panel". No cow is going to have any respect for that flimsy wire...
@@kevinkatiedreibelbis6091 pig panel is different. We have both here and the cattle panel is much heavier gauge
Have you released an update video showing how the growth turned out? Thank you for sharing, about to build my own cattle panel trellis!
Just did this for our grapes today. Bought the fencing at tractor supply and the price was the same as in your video. They worked perfectly! The wife is very happy with all of my "hard" work.😂
I made a few of these a couple of years ago. I love them. They are worth every penny. This year I made 8 feet tall tomato cages with them. The cattle panel are awesome for gardening.
Thank you 😁 I just aggravated hubby by asking for 3 cattle panels and 12 t posts lol for my beans, squash, and cucumbers lol
Went to price this out yesterday and each panel is now 35.99 and t posts vary 4 to 7 dollars each. Fun times we are living in out here in 2023.
Very simple project. I liked it . Just a note on safety. I would advise people to wear gloves and closed toed shoes. Have worked in construction for 40 years and I've seen many cuts and scrapes that proper shoes and gloves could have prevented.
I’ve been thinking about doing this w/2 panels joined in the middle of the arch to support a giant bougainvillea planted by our front door right on the walkway. It’s way too big for where it’s planted & has nothing to climb or support it. So it’s always leaning forward blocking our front door. It’s a gorgeous shrub, but it’s gigantic & dangerous w/the thorns. I thought I’d try to arbor it like this before spending the money on cutting it down & removing the stump. You helped me visualize better what I pictured in my mind. It’s also helpful to see the panel & realize the size, thickness, etc. Your timing was spot on as usual! Thanks again!
Crazy how much prices have gone up. I’m doing this and the same cattle panels are now $29.99 each at tractor supply. Still much cheaper than other alternatives!
These work great & last forever! I have 3 of these set up in my raised garden. Two of them I've had for over 20 years. Left overs from our horse corral. I plant pole beans, cucumbers, cantaloupe & small pumpkins on mine. For tomatoes, I set them up straight like a fence and tie/wind my vines through them.
Definitely put in posts or some kind of support! If you don’t, the very first high wind will possible bend it out of the arch shape or even to the point of collapsing. I learned from another persons mistake. I use hose clamps to affix mine to the posts. Makes it easier to disassemble since I’m in a community garden and may move plots at some point.
Tip: you can bend your panel before transporting in the arch you want and secure with tie straps, bungee cords, etc. then when you are ready to install it will be more cooperative.
MawRaw Miller just be careful no ones face is near it when untying 😑
This is very cool and I can see it can be multi-purposed. It could be painted too if using in a flower garden to make it look more fancy. Once covered, it'll be gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Luke, Great video, only change I made with my arch was took the ends into the box about a foot to allow sowing seeds on the inside of the arch for easy access. Great project, absolutely love your channel and cannot wait for next years garden so I can grow my Migardener heirloom tomatoes I purchased this year. Keep up the great work. Peace
Thank you for this video! You inspired me to put mine up all by myself! (A 5'4 woman!) :) Had help getting them to my house, but by following your instructions, I now have two arbors put up. Just need to decide where to put the third. Really enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing your talents and skills with the world!
We put three together with 7 ft. T posts. I put it 16" from ground so plants have to grow to it. It looks great in my garden.. I planted my seedlings on outside of trellis. Cukes, cherry tomatoes, watermelon and asparagus beans on one side. Cukes, pear tomatoes, watermelons, and snap peas on other side. It is quite tall. I spent aprox. $21 each for panels and $5 per posts(10). Very sturdy. It will last forever. I will build another trellis next year. Vertical gardening is my goal this year for the ease of growing my plants.
I put up 2 panel arbors for my pole beans this season and I just love them. So much nicer to pick beans in the shade of the tunnel!
So cool to see you adding these to your garden! We have been using them for 2 years now and they really changed our small city lot growing space. So much more can be done when growing vertical as much as possible. I use a different method and have 8 ft panels zip tied at the top. I plan on cutting them come fall and bending the panels over the beds to use as a low tunnel for fall. Good stuff Luke!
I appreciate you sharing the labor involved building this trellis. From getting the panel home, to carrying it in the garden to bending it in place. Thank you.
Put up two of these earlier this spring. GREAT for tomatoes. beans, cucumbers. Melons required the addition of individual fruit hammocks. I used one T post in the center of the panel and it is secure enough. I also used zip ties, since it was a trial and I will move them about the garden from time to time in the future. Using one T post in the center of each side of the panel in the raised beds putting the T post in the center of the short side of the raised bed, even when I move the arch to a new home in future seasons the T post will remain as a support for a center of the raised bed trellis attached to, yes, another T post in the center of the other end of the raised bed (which can also serve as the support fora future location of the cattle panel arch). Wow, I just realized I did a garden hack before you did! You are going to fall in love with them as you increase production without having to add additional garden bed space!
Looks great Luke! I did the same. Unfortunately Tractor supply is not near me here on Long Isalnd, but my local fee store was happy to order it and since I ordered about 15 panels, they delivered it for about $25. they are amazing!!!
I recently saw a UA-cam video of a lady who first zip tied a 2X4X12 to each luggage rack on the top of her minivan and then zip tied the cattle fencing to the 2x4x12s. The 2x4x12s kept the cattle panels from sagging over her vehicle and prevented any possible scratches.
As a creator I believe Jess from Roots and Refuge farms thought of this first. We are a small community on UA-cam and need to help each other out and give credit due to the creators. Jess has mentioned you and your channel many times and I believe you should return the favor. I have the cattle panels too and love them. Thank you for all the videos. You have helped my garden grow!
I know someone that's been doing this for years. He could have thought of this idea independently, you don't know he watched another channel. And it's not a novel idea, people do all kinds of stuff with cattle panels.
Thank you for the idea on how to get the panels home! I was at my local farm supply and going crazy trying to figure out how to get 16 feet of 16 gauge fencing home! With my little SUV. I dont have a roof rack so we decided to use blankets and rug padding to help prevent sliding, as well as weaving strapping through the fence and latching the straps inside of the car. Thanks from a Minnesota gardener, I appreciate the time you take to share info with all of us.
MIGardener I have my cattle panel trellises over the 4 foot walkway between my raised beds. The trellises are on the north side of the garden. So the shade does not affect my other beds.
I'm asking for this as a Mother's Day gift! Two of them! 😃
I know this video is a year old, so you may not see my comment. But, I definitely want to make several cattle panel arches next Spring! How much room would you say is between your two beds you arched it over? About 4 feet or so? That would affect how much height you'd have under the walkway & I want to make sure I have it high enough. Thanks! Love your channel! :)
Luke great cattle panel arbor trellis. I would have loved to see the look on your face while you were driving with those 16 foot cattle panels on your roof. I bet you that was priceless.
Every bump and turn I held my breath.
This is a riot, I’m a fellow West MI Gardner and I literally just did this about 3 weeks ago! Tractor supply, all of it! It’s awesome and so glad you did a video on it!
I'm about to do this for this for my wife's garden. If you put the cross bars on the outside of the arch then you can hook the crossbars with the post those little hooks. Then it will secure better. Thank you 👍
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! We have been looking for a way to do something like this with our grape plants and this looks like it will work perfectly.
Our farm supply store had 7 damaged cattle panels. Told them I would take all for $70. Works for me
I'm an old lady gardener....where are your loves young man?
Oh, thanks for the clear instructions....I'm doing this this summer,,for pole beans including asparagus beans,yeah!
You're my man....
You just answered a question I have been trying to find an answer for, which way to turn it?
North/South make perfect sense. Ive watched at least 15 tutorials on building one of these....NOBODY in any of them told us which way to set it up.
Thx so much
It is June 2020, man this is really cool idea, I have been using Stainless Steel Lashing Wire | .045, TYPE 302 to make my treliss, but this is geat idea, my cost in GA is $41.50. Thank you
I just paid $40 each for a 5’x10’ cattle panel in Northern California.
Allyson Rutherford ouch, where did you get them for that much? That seems steep
I was lucky enough to inherit a nice cattle panel, which I use in my 16’ bed for a trellis. I also use circles of cement reinforcement mesh (6” holes) for tomato cages. It would not be heavy duty enough for an arched trellis, though, unless you support it well with steel fence posts....
How far apart were were the cattle panel post side to side? The part that you walk under was that four foot wide?
$75 each panel in TX!
Hi! I’m building the beds into which I want to incorporate the cattle panel arch, but can’t find out how far apart to space the beds for a decent arch height...how wide is the path under it? Thanks!
I made an arbor like this. An Amish farmer taught me...easy peasy. Good job. I used cable ties to secure it, and those worked very well. Yep, mine was for pole beans too. : )
I love The idea. I have a suggestion for tiring the panel to the T-post. You can buy metal clips designed for wire and metal fencing and do not forget the wire fence pliers.
I build green houses using cattle panels. Take the plastic off in spring grow tomatoes beans squash water melon . Then plastic back on in fall grow greens in winter.
😄 We bought concrete wire at Lowes so it would fit in the SUV. People were pointing and laughing but it makes the best trellis for tomatoes, beans, cukes, and melons for our garden. 💕
We use the same thing for that purpose, works great! I bent the panel into a half arch and attached to our wire fencing with large binder clips of all things. Easy to take down and move. Cukes love it. I am ab,e to see them better and pull hanging fruit!!!!
All right man. I’m in Marshall and have a couple of large trailers if you get too crazy. About to break ground on a giant raised bed living soil project and needed the gap measures once the panel is bent.
I made a couple of cattle panel trellises this year, too. The hardest part was getting them home through the Chicago suburbs on top of the minivan. I used 2 16' 2x4's to extend the roof rack over the hood, and prevent the back end from dragging on the ground. With the 2x4's it was very stable and had no issues at all. Highly recommend using them!
You might want to spend 3 bucks on fence clips designed to work with t-posts. A fence fork runs about ten bucks and it will save your fingers. That will secure the post properly and permanently. I use cattle panels for tomatoes and peas, and the t-post clips work much better (and are safer) than wire.
You answered very question I have about creating a trellis - transportation, orientation! Thank you!
I have four of these set up in my vegetable garden. I only used one T-Post on each end and secured the cattle panel to it with heavy duty zip-ties. These are strong enough for me to hang by my hands and swing on - they ain’t goin’ anywhere. Very strong. I am training tomatoes, winter squashes and beans on them this year. Oh, and like Wise Dove, I put these up single handed - a bit of a stretch for this 60+ year old but I got it done.
This was a great idea. I love when you work (show and tell) in front of the camera. The message is stronger that way. . . and yes, I am a teacher and parent who finds this the key way to send a message.
Thank you! I'm building an arch for the entrance to my orchard and I was wondering how I was going to secure the cattle panel! 🙌😃
3 years ago that was such a good price! I'm doing this and watching this in 2024 and it looks like it will run me $45.00 each. The cattle panels run about $25 a piece now and the 6 ft t-posts are around $5 a piece now.
7 mins 50 secs in and i am onto a new project! Thanks mate love it
Good morning MIgardener from New Hampshire! First time viewing your channel. Yes, Roots & Refuge did a stellar job with their cattle panels. We raise cattle, but no cattle panels. Those panels are on my list for an abor. If you can't procure a small pick up truck, what about a trailer? Handy for an avid gardener. We are farmers, so our only car has been stored in the tractor garage for about a dozen years! Great to see your yard full of raised beds! I will follow your channel with interest, as I am installing a raised bed garden next to our house in the woods. All the best!
I am going to put in two of these next spring. Guaranteed. I had previously used cattle panels to make “hoop coops” as quick housing for chickens.
Awesome!!!!!! I have been wanting this but didn’t know how to get it home 🏡!! Love this!! Thanks for sharing that part too!
I use concrete reinforcing mesh as a trellis for my butternut squash, and it works quite well. It does rust, but hasn't done any harm to my plants or me. I also keep an ample supply of large zip ties for securing fencing to my posts.
Thanks Luke! I wouldn’t have thought of the shadow it would cast and make the mistake of running the wrong way!
I’m thinking he meant the side of his panels where the veggies are growing face north and south. Is that what you understood? Thanks!
About transporting the panels...no drama needed! I used 4 short bungie cords to secure to my Ford Explorer roof rack and ALSO 4 longer ones to front bumper and trailer hitch. Nary a wiggle or jiggle the whole way home. Trick is in the tension. (All 8 sold in a box for $6.99- small price to pay for safety.)
My mom's wooden arbor bit the wind in the last hurricane. So glad I found your video. I'm going to purchase the items at Lowe's and put it up to surprise her.
Thank you for sharing!
We used the 12 ft. panels but attached them about two feet up on the t posts. We used 5 panels making the arbor 20 ft long. I made the open ends face east and west to get sunlight inside. I canned 134 quarts of green beans from one arbor.😊
Luke...Thanks. It looks so easy. Like you I have wanted some vertical growing.space, and I am building one today! Great video!
Where you're doing it between raised beds you can also use screws and metal pipe hanger strap to secure the wire to the wood. Worked great for my duck pens
I love it! Thanks. I was having a hard time visualizing it. It is a DYI for me. High five.
Only thoughts I'd contribute would be your trellis is inside out. If a weld fails is falls away, if inverted this spring if a weld fails it is still resting against the longer strand still supporting it in place.
I have been loving my cattle panels this year. I'm trying melons for the first time and they are doing so well on the cattle panels. I've got my tomatoes on straight 8 foot cattle panels as well. Looking forward to seeing yours in action!
Please try the Asian yard-long bean/chopstick bean/long bean. You will not believe how productive these beans are. I got two quarts every three days, all summer long, from 20 vines planted on 6" centers. They are great stir-fried, pickled, steamed, or cooked in casseroles. They make a 24-inch to 36-inch bean, almost faster than you can use them. They are a great candidate for your trellis.
I made mine from heavy rolled fencing - much easier to transport :)
That's awesome, we are planning on doing a bunch of these soon to. Building supplies work great in the garden, we also use 10 foot rebar for our tomato stakes and they've worked great for years.
Just bought a 16ft panel and brought it home on top of the minivan. Lots of odd looks, but it worked. Thanks for the inspiration.
My hubby constructed one for me In The spring for my Luffa garden. I love it and it is sturdy!
For people who have trouble transporting you can get 2 x 8 foot panels and lash them together at the top. It's not quite as tall or pretty, but much easier to lash to the roof of the car.
I have done this and can fit the 8ft panels tear dropped in the back of my suv. I have gotten 6 panels home at one time this way
I've been wanting to do this for a long time. I looked at Menards and tried to explain what I wanted but didn't't get anywhere.. The fact that you gave me a location where to try to purchase this cattle panel is exactly what I wanted. I plan to build concrete raised beds on the outside of the castle panels which will anchor the ends of the panels. Very excited for this next challenge.
Julie, I would nix the concrete raised beds. I a. A landscaper and often finds the concrete gets so hot that it cooks the water and roots in about 6 inches. I have actually installed 3/4 in foam insulation to try to save the plants, flowers and grasses that are next to concrete. In Indiana. I use wood frames, freezing dies not hurt wood either
@@billjones5178 Thanks for the input. I currently am using wood frames but wood does rot. I currently have at least one family of moles living underneath my raised bed. I'm tearing down an old building soon and had hoped to put cattle panels over the top of the on grade concrete but hope to put down several inches of wood chips on top of the concrete pad to keep things hydrated and not a major source of heat. I am currently building a concrete pad for a mail box and I thought about lining the outside of the pad with concrete raised panels where I would plant flowers that would bloom throughout the growing season. I have a half dozen beautiful green plants growing on the North side of the building to come down and was hoping to transplant them. Based on your information about cooking the plants, I imagine these large leaf plants won't survive in concrete raised gardens. Thanks for your help.
Julie Gurley I get pressure 2x6x6 at Menards That are notched or V grouved on edges. I gut to a 12 ft and 4 foot piece and make a 4x12 ft raised bed. I am not worried about the toxicity of wood, but I stapled a plastic wall liner in inside walls to increase life of wood. I am expecting 15 years life. I too had lots of moles. I put 1/4” galvanized wire staples inside and across bottom of 5 raised beds. Allows for water to drain down, and much Roth activity to chase the soil below, I have 12” raised bed and add another 6 inch of height wood & soil each year as Time & money allows. I put 3x3” post in 4 corners 36 inches tall to bolt to and ties strings etc to.
I like the expanding bed as some free top soil comes a available. I just grab it, add a layer of wood edging , and up it goes Another 6”
Wood is style often used in horse stalls as hick proof, pre grouved and in stock.
I'll look for notched or V grooved pressure treated woods at Menards next time I go there. Some woods are stable in ground contact, some are not as what is used in decks. Each have different chemicals pressure treating the woods. Most pressure treated woods are soft woods.
"It was super sketchy but we got it here " 😂😭💀
This was a bit careless:
1) You should have a red flag on any load that extends beyond your vehicle like that. You can get, and deserve, a ticket for not doing so. The red flag aids depth perception and attracts attention to something usually not extended from a vehicle. Would you be ticked off if you ran into this extension?
2) A 55 mph road often has a minimum speed, regardless of using hazard lights. He didn’t say how fast he drove, and it was only "5 miles", but it had to be a slow speed to not risk the load shifting (into another vehicle?!).
3) This WAS slightly click bait: Those 4 T posts cost about $5 each, making it about $45 total. I watched to find out how the panel was secured at no cost (It wasn’t).
That said, I like cattle panels for trellising.
Also, T posts sold at Tractor Supply come with fence clips for free. These can be used to secure the cattle panel to the posts very securely.
Very nice! My wife loves her cukes...this year the plants are reaching higher than our 4' high trellises, so the arch has to be a winner. You may have added a red flag to the back of your panel for the ride home. Thnx for sharing.
My seeds came today they came pretty quick and they were packaged very nicely an excellent price thank you mi Gardner crew and also the prices are unbelievable everyone should buy their seeds from Mi Gardner thank you
The arbor looks great. Glad you made it home safe. Where I live the law states that you have to tie red flags to anything that hangs more than 3 feet off the back of your vehicle. Wondered if that had something to do with people honking at you? Also wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. All your knowledge and enthusiasm make you a great teacher.
I did this this past summer. The only thing I didn't like about it is I had mine ground level and weeding in my beds between and through the panel was a serious pain. Next year I will raise them above the ground high enough to get my hand completely and easily under it.
2022 price of 16 ft cattle is almost double Gee thanks JOE!
I’ve been wanting to do this for over a year now, since seeing it on Roots and Refuge. Congratulations! It looks awesome. Like you I want to use them for pole beans. I’m almost did it yesterday when I saw the panels were on sale at TSC but chickened out because I drive a Hyundai Sonata. And it’s a 15 mile drive. Through a busy city. Oh well. Citystead bent them in half, and tied with ratchet straps to get them inside his SUV. I’m female, handicapped, 56 yo and not very strong but I am sure tempted because I want a few of these so bad!
Another reason I did the two 8 foot panels was they are much easier to handle alone than the 16 foot panels.
Thank you so much for this video! I think it is one of the best how to videos I have seen. I especially appreciate you showing how you transported and carried that gosh darn panel!
Thank you so much for showing us this idea!!! Omg you’ve got me pumped for next years garden!!!!
I put mine over top my 4x8 raised beds in an A frame configuration. It's a great support trellis for my heavy 7 ft San Marzano and Rousselini plants. It also is a great way to put a plastic tarp over the plants to protect them from heavy prolonged rain and wind. Best system I've ever used. BTW, I got my seed from you and the plants are amazing. The Rousselini plants are massive with thick strong main stems. It's now August and any signs of blight or spot was eliminated at first sight. My plants are amazing and very very healthy. Yields will be phenomenal.
i cant wait to put up some arbors formy climbing roses I have ordered!!!
Thank you, I plan on doing at least one of these this year.
We love ours!! We have 6 of them. Lt. Green Long beans, Chinese Red noodle beans, Asparagus beans, Cukes, Luffa and Birdhouse gourds. 👍❤
Personally if I can sandwich them between two beds I'd do that stuck in the ground but instead of Tposts I'd just screw something simple to hold the cattle pannel down to the wood board of the beds. Id probably go for metal pipe straps to to secure them I've used that lately for something similar and worked great
Love it! I strapped mine to the roof of the Porsche! Stay tuned for that video!
here in Canada I paid 75$$ per panel. I tie a string/cord to one end and bend it to the degree I want and tie off the cord to form it into a horseshoe shape. I then put a pallet on top of the cording and load it with plants. I use them as greenhouses. Then I lay it flat, attach the plastic and cover that with BirdE Fence or more cord and then put them up as mentioned. They work really well.
This is just what I needed to see. Thanks