Classical Composer Reacts to The Divine Wings of Tragedy (Symphony X) | The Daily Doug (Episode 165)

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  • @Squidz66
    @Squidz66 3 роки тому +124

    If you’re not a guitarist, you’ll never understand how crazy Romeo’s bits are.
    He’s amazing.

    • @scrambis
      @scrambis 3 роки тому +16

      its insane to think that there are people out there who hear MJR or Yngwie's playing and are like "wow they're good at the guitar" in the same way they said that after seeing stuff like Clapton or the Volkswagen/Slash commercials

    • @HipHopAn0n
      @HipHopAn0n Рік тому +1

      Try to play Romeos guitar parts on a keyboard. Then multiply the difficulty by 1,000x and you get how hard it is to play on Guitar😂😂

  • @migueltay2803
    @migueltay2803 3 роки тому +537

    My friend, Michael Romeo can solo in any key he wishes to.

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +29

      Exactly. Romeo is #1 for a reason.

    • @spyrosstathis1250
      @spyrosstathis1250 3 роки тому +12

      Hahaha my thoughts exactly

    • @DominicAirola
      @DominicAirola 3 роки тому +27

      Doesn’t mean every guitarist’s favorite key isn’t e minor 😂

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 3 роки тому +8

      There are a gazillion guitar players that can do this. If you are trained it's really something you should be able to do as rudimentary.

    • @Moskal91
      @Moskal91 3 роки тому +14

      More like any position thats acctual all u need. He also likes to down tune a bit. He's the greatest neoclassical shredder ever. Yngwie got nothing on him. when It comes to shredding there is no one that matches romeo

  • @centaurus5676
    @centaurus5676 3 роки тому +325

    The album 'V' from Symphony X is one of my desert island discs....A masterpiece to my ears.

    • @208414
      @208414 3 роки тому +26

      I agree. That is a perfect album.

    • @TheOlajuwon94
      @TheOlajuwon94 3 роки тому +17

      Agreed! I keep trying to think which song to recommend from that….communion and the oracle?

    • @centaurus5676
      @centaurus5676 3 роки тому +1

      @@208414 Yes .

    • @centaurus5676
      @centaurus5676 3 роки тому +12

      @@TheOlajuwon94 I wish he would do the whole album....there are no duff tracks!

    • @Hy-jg8ow
      @Hy-jg8ow 3 роки тому +8

      One of the best albums ever created.

  • @aodghostwalker8226
    @aodghostwalker8226 3 роки тому +105

    This album saved my life as a child. I was very bullied and made fun of in school and I found my calm in this album.
    I would love to see you react to this whole thing, Candelight Fantasia is a cool track, and I think you would appreciate The Accolade. :)

    • @albert3365
      @albert3365 Рік тому +3

      I had the same situation.
      Pain of Salvation and Symphony X helped me find the Beauty and importance of individuality and sensitiveness.
      All good to You. Cheers

    • @angeloangelo984
      @angeloangelo984 9 місяців тому

      ❤❤❤

    • @PeX218
      @PeX218 3 місяці тому

      Cool track?? Just cool?! 😤

  • @pomppivaponi
    @pomppivaponi 3 роки тому +231

    Doug theoritically and insightfully breaks this song into pieces that we less classical people can digest. I don't think that Doug is giving enough recognizion for Russell. He can literally sing pretty much anything (compare songs of Trans Siberian Orchestra, Adrenaline Mob, SymphonyX). To me, he's one of the greatests singers of the modern era of metal and deserves the prefix of Sir in a musical perspective.

    • @EvilForgemaster
      @EvilForgemaster 3 роки тому +14

      Yes, exactly. It feels bad to me that he never really said something about Russel. Doug is amazing in analyzing and breaking down the intrumental aspects of the song, but damn I wish he said a few words about Russel.

    • @asbjrnfossmo1589
      @asbjrnfossmo1589 3 роки тому +5

      Doug is sort of a musical enzyme xD

    • @unknownapproach9410
      @unknownapproach9410 3 роки тому +3

      Don’t forget his work with Ayreon/ Star One

    • @skeletankmcgraw7343
      @skeletankmcgraw7343 3 роки тому +3

      Well, the whole "Sir" moniker he is given at the front of his name has nothing to do with his singing prowess, to be fair. It really just came out of sort of a joke in that before he was in SyX he was a physical performer at Medieval Times. I don't know for sure if he first started being called "Sir" by the rest of the band, or if it was by early fans of the band when they found out what his previous job was? Personally, I got into SyX when V first came out so I am not sure?

    • @gustavocielo1170
      @gustavocielo1170 3 роки тому +3

      He does talk about him in Odyssey reaction tho

  • @gpiercemusic2003
    @gpiercemusic2003 3 роки тому +167

    Mike Romeo (guitarist) is a huge classical music fan and loves to reference his favourite pieces in his music.

    • @ZoogyDoogy
      @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +18

      Romeo also said he was a fan of Malmsteen. Romeo being technically and expressively better IMO.

    • @DeckardRJ
      @DeckardRJ 3 роки тому +3

      @@ZoogyDoogy Agreed!!!

    • @shallowlord
      @shallowlord 3 роки тому +6

      Mike was training classical guitar, but he wanted to be more progressive.

    • @ZoogyDoogy
      @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +3

      @@EgoShredder My humble opinion ^^ But they are both awesome!

    • @TimGallant
      @TimGallant 3 роки тому +5

      @@ZoogyDoogy I don't know about technically better, but I do prefer Romeo's tone and musicality.

  • @dannymansfield8743
    @dannymansfield8743 3 роки тому +30

    Ah, Symphony X, where a 20 minute song feels too short lol. Truly a masterclass band.

  • @ibanezleftyclub
    @ibanezleftyclub 3 роки тому +204

    You should try to do an interview with Michael Romeo, you guys could nerd out for hours.

    • @jeffreycollins7297
      @jeffreycollins7297 3 роки тому +10

      Having done that myself with him many a time to the rise of the phone bill, I can attest Mike is a serious man. Guy got me into so much great music, including Frank Zappa....that one took a while. Allan Holdsworth took less time.

    • @pitimutisgmail
      @pitimutisgmail 3 роки тому +5

      @@jeffreycollins7297 gotta make that happen

    • @Jordanguitar
      @Jordanguitar 3 роки тому +4

      I have one set up with Mike for next year, I’m excited for it.

    • @YsAbTones
      @YsAbTones 3 роки тому +1

      this would be awesome beyond mesure!

    • @hmtp177
      @hmtp177 3 роки тому +1

      PLEASE DO THAT!

  • @alvaropita3487
    @alvaropita3487 3 роки тому +26

    Sir Russell Allen's performance here is for the ages.

  • @gpiercemusic2003
    @gpiercemusic2003 3 роки тому +165

    Please do Symphony X, Through the Looking Glass. It has a fascinating premise

    • @Kras125Djg
      @Kras125Djg 3 роки тому +21

      +1, and Lady of the snow

    • @Metalton95
      @Metalton95 3 роки тому +15

      Arguably their most underrated gem, along with Awakenings.. when Symphony X do what they do, without holding back (like 07-15), they do it better than anyone else!

    • @okayman81
      @okayman81 3 роки тому +4

      My all time favorite from them! Nice call!

    • @gehrmanyu7652
      @gehrmanyu7652 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, this is my favorite Symphony X song in that album, the atmosphere, instrumental arrange and keyboard part are just beyond any words to describe.

    • @michaelromeo9567
      @michaelromeo9567 3 роки тому +4

      Oh yes.. 🙏💖💖💖!

  • @swngwyrdd3552
    @swngwyrdd3552 3 роки тому +197

    "They went to E minor so the guitarist can play a solo"
    Ahh, except Symphony X tune to D standard instead of E.
    Also Michael Romeo can play pretty much anything

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +22

      Doug doesn't know Romeo yet. His comments are funny.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 3 роки тому +22

      Still, it was a magnificent joke

    • @Jordanguitar
      @Jordanguitar 3 роки тому +13

      Them tuning down a whole step have absolutely nothing to do with them playing in true E minor, Doug was absolutely correct, they were in the key of E minor. Not sure why people can’t wrap their heads around this.

    • @swngwyrdd3552
      @swngwyrdd3552 3 роки тому +30

      @@Jordanguitar The point is that E minor is an "easy" key to play on a guitar tuned in E standard. That's why a lot of rock/metal songs and therefore the solos are in E. I didn't say they weren't playing in E minor.

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 3 роки тому +5

      Things in metal don't really work like that a lot. It's most often more about the music and less about the individual instruments. And therefore metal is great
      Also, it's much more likely to go to E minor or A minor because of the keyboard player than the guitarrists, it's much more fucked up to change keys on the piano/keyboard

  • @ZoogyDoogy
    @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +88

    I mean... Who is so cool he can drink Bourbon while getting chords progressions and patterns, getting the different irregular measures and polyrythms, and same time analyse the lyrics and even make influences connections between bands like Kansas and Opeth ?? Serisouly ??
    Best channel

    • @jeffreycollins7297
      @jeffreycollins7297 3 роки тому +2

      I watch him more than anyone else out there today. Granted the others are people's travels and business workings. :D

    • @progrockrules9463
      @progrockrules9463 3 роки тому +2

      Best comment ♥

  • @SkylineBilip
    @SkylineBilip Рік тому +19

    This album saved my life as a bullied 12 year old, it gave me power when I had none..
    Also thanks for the mention of the bass player! One of my favourite things with this band is that they leave room for the bass to shine.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  Рік тому +10

      Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your story @SkylineBilip, I'm happy you're here and hope all is well.

  • @user-ov5nd1fb7s
    @user-ov5nd1fb7s 3 роки тому +33

    Symphony X - Candlelight Fantasia is my favourite song from that album.
    The melodies are absolutely fenomenal.

  • @Stormerevets
    @Stormerevets 3 роки тому +54

    Yes!! New Jersey's finest Progressive Metal band! Doug, your reaction, breakdown and commentary are really cool. Not too many reactors out there that do this. Really glad you are digging this band as well as Dream Theater. Lots of great music from both of those bands. Another great track to do from Symphony X would be "Through The Looking Glass".
    Symphony X are:
    Michael Romeo − guitars, backing vocals
    Michael Pinnella − keyboards, backing vocals
    Russell Allen − lead vocals
    Jason Rullo - drums
    Michael Lepond − bass, backing vocals

    • @DeckardRJ
      @DeckardRJ 3 роки тому +1

      They are awesome!!!!!

    • @LIVS10
      @LIVS10 3 роки тому +1

      It's true! They're also from NJ, they might even be neighbours! Who knows! Can you imagine that?

    • @Stormerevets
      @Stormerevets 3 роки тому +2

      @@LIVS10 I believe most of them are in the central part of New Jersey

    • @christopherperkins1733
      @christopherperkins1733 3 роки тому +5

      Nothing is more boring than listening to a sound I love with some random on the screen overplaying a head bang and approving facial expressions. I want to understand what other people hear so I can discover new appreciation for it next time I listen. Thanks Doug all the pausing, explaining, and replaying. That's what a reaction should be.

  • @LIVS10
    @LIVS10 3 роки тому +105

    Doug, try a brazilian band called Angra. They incorporated brazilian folk music with their heavy metal. I think you'll love the songs Carolina IV, Holy Land, Never Understand, Stand Away, Silence and distance. Also their deceased former singer, Andre Matos, was a maestro. I know I have said this before, but I dont know if Doug is reading all the comments, so I keep asking ;)

    • @PabloLink74
      @PabloLink74 3 роки тому +8

      Carolina IV is epic, but it has a lot of double kick drums sections on it, but maybe he'll like it, who knows?

    • @joaopaulobastos2626
      @joaopaulobastos2626 3 роки тому +6

      Up
      Brasil caralho!

    • @ZoogyDoogy
      @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +7

      RIP Andre Matos.
      Love this singer and Angra is a reference.

    • @LIVS10
      @LIVS10 3 роки тому

      @@PabloLink74 yeah! I think the best choice would be Holy Land!

    • @bernardo_gc
      @bernardo_gc 3 роки тому +1

      sim

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +78

    I bought this cd when it came out. Symphony X has been around for over 25 years. You have barely scratched the surface of what they can do. You mentioned the bass player, yes... Thomas Miller was amazing. He left the band before the "V" album was released, and Michael Lupond took the bass spot. Miller was also a poet, and he wrote the lyrics. Michael Romeo is the guitar player, and he also writes most of the music. I am sure the keyboard player, Michael Pinnella, also adds his touch as well. Symphony X is a super-group of top-talent. The singer, Russel Allen, has gone on to contribute his vocals to many projects over the years, including singing and touring with Trans Siberian Orchestra. These guys are all legends. And YOU are just discovering them. Don't stop... keep going. The rabbit-hole is deep!

    • @JanicMilan
      @JanicMilan 3 роки тому +2

      @@klausgoldfisch3231 bow now to the synthetic gods

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +2

      @@dr.alexandermuller3549 I agree. I really like Lupond, but Miller was a key part of that puzzle.

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +1

      @@dr.alexandermuller3549 Yes. I used to call him "a poet and a bard". I never got to meet him, but I did get to hang out with all the other members of the band. Russel is a hilarious story-teller.

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому

      @@dr.alexandermuller3549 Nope. I wonder if Romeo still keeps in touch with him. I haven't talked to Romeo in a long time either. I am hoping his solo album "War of the Worlds Part 2" comes out soon. Part 1 had some great stuff on it! ( And some weird stuff, too: the Robot song! )

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor 3 роки тому +1

      Not even a side mention to Jason? Dishonor on your goat!

  • @MechMonstrosity
    @MechMonstrosity 3 роки тому +87

    Should we all just start a petition for a Doug Helvering TV show where he analyzes songs? Not kidding, would pay to watch it.

    • @Charlieh1989
      @Charlieh1989 3 роки тому +6

      Doug and Rick Beato have got the song analysis game on lockdown right now.

    • @atlasking6110
      @atlasking6110 3 роки тому +2

      Doug should have a permanent sticky thread at Progressive Ears too

    • @grugparty
      @grugparty 3 роки тому +3

      This is already that.

    • @MechMonstrosity
      @MechMonstrosity 3 роки тому

      @@grugparty True.. But this is more of the "budget" version of what I have in mind 😂

    • @jeffreycollins7297
      @jeffreycollins7297 3 роки тому

      @@MechMonstrosity DO YOUR OWN.

  • @DeckardRJ
    @DeckardRJ 3 роки тому +88

    Symphony X is great!! The musicians are awesome! Michael Romeo is not just a great and well accomplished guitarrist but a great composer!! AND MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT because the band is not on spotlight. They're such an underrated band. They deserve more credit and recognition!

    • @DeckardRJ
      @DeckardRJ 3 роки тому +3

      @@credhc8421 I like the new material as well. I liked Iconoclast very much. V is a great work and The odyssey too. I don't know.. maybe in general the last releases are not as good as the old, but it is a matter of taste. In general Symphony X continue to be very good to me.

  • @Xiatar
    @Xiatar 3 роки тому +6

    I have listened to this song for 20+ years. I have learned so much today. Thank you.

  • @carlostoledo1169
    @carlostoledo1169 3 роки тому +68

    Check out The Death of Balance / Lacrymosa by Symphony X as well!

  • @xcforce9067
    @xcforce9067 3 роки тому +44

    I recommend Duel With The Devil by prog supergroup Transatlantic. It is one of the best modern prog epics.

    • @androsida8704
      @androsida8704 3 роки тому +1

      yes we need Doug to react some Transatlantic

    • @TimGallant
      @TimGallant 3 роки тому +1

      @@androsida8704 I've requested the bookend epic from the same album, Stranger in Your Soul. Either would be amazing.

  • @GeekMick
    @GeekMick 3 роки тому +20

    This album kicked me in the guts when I got this CD back in the days, it was so new and powerfull ! The opening with Of Sins and Shadows and Sea of Lies, left me numb...

  • @franciscocanizaressanchez-3638
    @franciscocanizaressanchez-3638 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolute fan of your content and your outstanding music appreciation, Doug.
    Discovered you by a glance of a causality looking recently for some Dream Theater random videos.
    Your ear training skills at first try are out of the charts! What a world class listener you are 👏🏿👏🏿
    I must admit I played the very firsts 4 minutes staring at your physical reactions because it happened the same to me.
    Heard a lot by Symphony X ages ago when I was a teenager. My elder brother introduced me to progressive rock music at a time when I was trained as a youngster classical pianist.
    I will never forget when my music history teacher played Bach B minor Mass and that “EXPECTO RESURRECTIONEM MORTUORUM” melodic line rang me an automatic bell of that particular choir track of these guys that I listened for years before. Master connection!
    Glad that I found you around and I can recommend an impressive musician as you as well as your wonderful online content.
    Cheers from Spain! 🥃

  • @joansalgado4676
    @joansalgado4676 3 роки тому +57

    The Divine Wings of Tragedy, is based on John Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost

    • @CharlesSoulzOfficial
      @CharlesSoulzOfficial 3 роки тому +23

      It’s about The Paradise Regained. Is the continuation of Paradise Lost. The album Paradise Lost is like the beggining of the song Divine Wings. The last song of the Paradise Lost album calls Divine Wings of Tragedy in latin.

    • @BinExis
      @BinExis 3 роки тому +6

      @@CharlesSoulzOfficial yeah, and it also has clean guitar riff from this song right at the end.

  • @tullivinicci
    @tullivinicci 3 роки тому +17

    I can't believe this day has come! I don't want to click on play cause I dont want it ends. Its gonna be nice for me, thanks Doug!

  • @geofflm3264
    @geofflm3264 Рік тому +3

    Found this video after a sudden urge of wanting to listen to Symphony X. Thank you for the amazing content, and also for making me realize that Symphony X were drawing so much from classical music, and Gustav Holtz in particular! Great stuff.

  • @GuiAntonioli
    @GuiAntonioli 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for reviewing this one! I was one of the guys who asked for it. Michael Romeo and Russell Allen (guitar player and singer) are the best there are in my opinion and the piece "Paradise Regained" is THE most profound composition ever made, to me.
    Great video, Doug!

  • @normantompkins1252
    @normantompkins1252 3 роки тому +24

    Symphony x the edge of forever

  • @darkybass
    @darkybass 3 роки тому +140

    Next song must be "Accolade"

  • @jasongentry6595
    @jasongentry6595 3 роки тому +19

    Now i wanna hear him analyze candlelight fantasia and masquerade. I think those are some of their other great orchestral sounding songs

  • @romanthedog6861
    @romanthedog6861 3 роки тому +7

    I love Symphony x! Their third album including this song was released in Japan 25 years ago and I listened to it every day at that time.Thanks to your analysis , I could enjoy this song again. I really appreciate it. I look forward to watching your next video.

  • @dissonantpulse
    @dissonantpulse 3 роки тому +81

    Epic songs: A change of seasons by Dream Theater or Six degrees of inner turbulance.

    • @alpardal
      @alpardal 3 роки тому +5

      Absolutely - A Change of Seasons is the one for sure

    • @josephpliler392
      @josephpliler392 3 роки тому +4

      Six Degrees is my fave song of all time! Waiting for a reactor brave enough to take it on.

    • @GuiAntonioli
      @GuiAntonioli 3 роки тому

      Yes!

  • @chickenheartcoup
    @chickenheartcoup 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for reacting to this one Doug. I've always loved Symphony X, and this song in particular. I'm looking forward to seeing you react to more Symphony X!

  • @ScarsUnseen24
    @ScarsUnseen24 3 роки тому +5

    My first Symphony X album. Great local band. Much love from New Jersey! Their keyboard player was my salesperson when I bought my keyboard back in 2003 at Guitar Center in Edison, NJ. :)

  • @goncalobaia1574
    @goncalobaia1574 3 роки тому +11

    I'd never heard much of symphony X, even though I had that common knowledge that they were pretty good as a metalhead.
    Thank you for forcing me to listen to this, I literally have a new favorite band now

  • @agengineguitar
    @agengineguitar 3 роки тому +3

    Welcome 25 years later to the one of the BEST masterpiece made ever...

  • @sergiodominguez2989
    @sergiodominguez2989 Рік тому +1

    As a (unfortunately, former) bassist, I was initially taken aback by the distraction at that 15:25 delightful bass solo. However, I soon realized how perfectly the bourbon tasting complemented it. Well done. I enjoy your videos.

  • @cris_j
    @cris_j 3 роки тому +45

    Just gonna keep posting Haken... H A K E N ! Visions, Crystallized, Falling Back to Earth, The Architect. The Cockroach King. All of it is fantastic.

    • @ZoogyDoogy
      @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +4

      Definitely! I'm sure he will. He can't escape Haken 😂
      Crystallized is epic!

    • @chessbrainiac
      @chessbrainiac 3 роки тому +3

      Add Celestial Elixir to the list! And Veil, The Messiah Complex, Puzzle Box, Invasion and a whole bunch of others!

    • @ZoogyDoogy
      @ZoogyDoogy 3 роки тому +1

      There are too many ^^

    • @KhaonMorentis
      @KhaonMorentis 3 роки тому +1

      The Architect!

    • @147pablox
      @147pablox 3 роки тому +1

      Yes! I mean, I like SX a lot, but I'm 100% sure he will enjoy way much more Haken than them.

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho 3 роки тому +37

    Okay, so the significance of the I-V-bV progression to heavy metal goes much, much deeper than that. Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath" (from the album "Black Sabbath" 😂), one of the very first heavy metal songs ever considered part of the genre... guess what three notes it opens with! You could almost say "Mars" itself is the true genesis of heavy metal. I play string bass in a local concert band myself, but I'm also clearly a big metalhead, and I've had the chance to perform "Mars" and it takes every ounce of self-control I have not to start headbanging every time 🤘🤘

    • @jimmyggs91
      @jimmyggs91 3 роки тому

      That song has an inverted tritone G - G (one octave higher) - C#, what it was known in the past as "The Devil In Music". But you're correct that "Mars" influenced a lot of metal.

    • @goncalobaia1574
      @goncalobaia1574 3 роки тому +2

      It's pretty much the mainstream "eerie metal" progression lol, maiden did it, mercyful fate did it, diamond head did it, megadeth did it, slayer probably did it too, every power metal and prog band that has scary parts did it lol

    • @MeuRefrigerador
      @MeuRefrigerador 3 роки тому +1

      If I remember correctly, according to "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey", Iommi was trying to play (or copy, whatever) this "Mars" passage and came up with the riff in "Black Sabbath". And then there was heavy metal...

  • @ozztelorman7057
    @ozztelorman7057 3 роки тому +5

    Never thought to see a reaction to The Divine Wings of Tragedy - one of the most incredible pieces of classical music-infused power/prog metal with Michael Romeo's astonishing creativity and guitar technique (as the guitar wizard who inspired me on two-hand tapping arpeggios - who just like me also struggled on classical guitar for the first few years but found his real self on the electric guitar). The first five albums, including The New Mythology Suite, basically shaped my musical understanding and transformed me into a metalhead! :))
    Thanks Doug, you the man!

  • @Shreddah
    @Shreddah 3 роки тому +37

    Russell Allen, the singer, sang all the harmonies in the Bach choir piece in the beginning.

    • @wanderair9999
      @wanderair9999 3 роки тому +1

      No.

    • @Shreddah
      @Shreddah 3 роки тому +2

      @@wanderair9999 Umm, yes.

    • @garudawave2348
      @garudawave2348 3 роки тому +5

      WanderAir is right. Actually, you can hear Romeo's voice in the choir

    • @murcGuru
      @murcGuru 3 роки тому

      Was just about to mention this.

    • @branlopgar
      @branlopgar 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ShreddahExcept he didn't. The harmonies in the choir were done by Miller (their then-bassist) and Romeo. Allen did the majority of them, but you can definitely hear the two other voices in the mix of that choir. And major kudos to both Romeo and Miller. Not anyone can pull off those lines even if they moved them to another key.

  • @jimmyggs91
    @jimmyggs91 3 роки тому +5

    Nice, I've been waiting for this song since you reacted to The Odyssey. And this is not their only classical music direct reference, more of their songs do this. I'm glad you caught them, as expected from your classical trained ears. 🙂

  • @neilslater1182
    @neilslater1182 3 роки тому +21

    Symphony X and Whisky - super stuff. I currently have a dram of Ardbeg 10 as I watch/listen.
    I came to find Symphony X from more of a power metal background, so I was always more into Out Of The Ashes and Of Sins and Shadows from this album. I very rarely had the patience for this track as it didn't have the double kick drum and catchy chorus that I wanted from them. But listening again now after all these years, and I suppose to an extent appreciating it for what it is rather than what it isn't; I have a lot more time for it. I can definitely see me revisiting the album/track in the near future.

    • @stevehildner5630
      @stevehildner5630 3 роки тому

      I think it's what album from them you hear first that creates that frame of reference. They have moved towards more driving stuff on Underworld, and Iconoclast. But they were more ethereal and prog on, like, V: The New Mythology Suite and The Odyssey.
      I dig it all for what it is

  • @demonhalo67
    @demonhalo67 3 роки тому +8

    They are so good, easily one of the frontrunners in progressive metal alongside DreamTheater and Threshold.

  • @trfp
    @trfp 3 роки тому +2

    And again...well done, Doug! Thank you for doing another one from my favourite band!

  • @TiagoAlf
    @TiagoAlf 3 роки тому +6

    Yeahhhhhhh Finally!!! I'm waiting more Symphony X here 😁😁😁

  • @phred23
    @phred23 3 роки тому +14

    Loving your exploration of symphonic/prog metal, Doug. Suggestions for future bands to explore: HAKEN and NE OBLIVISCARIS. Both are bands that are pushing the bounds of composition and prog in the wake of Dream Theater revitalizing prog as a metal genre in the 90s.

  • @stevehildner5630
    @stevehildner5630 3 роки тому +12

    I can see glimpses of Doug's mind being blown as this exquisite masterpiece unfolds.
    I SEE it because I've experienced it. He wants so badly for the song to make more sense in terms of logical theory, but Symphony X doesn't break the rules until they have mastered them.
    I am very aware, as I watch him listening to S-X, that one must hear some of these songs MANY times before truly grasping what has been done.
    The first listen simply is too much...absolutely the most outstanding prog gods on the planet. I used to think no one could touch DT.
    I was wrong.

  • @nicot.3557
    @nicot.3557 3 роки тому +1

    I've seen several of your video's now. I'm enjoying them very much and your reactions make me laugh in particularly when you're suprised by pieces of music. Your comments and knowledge gives an edge to the music I love to listen to. Keep up the good work, thnx.

  • @nocakewalk
    @nocakewalk 3 роки тому +6

    A few more epic suggestions :)
    The 1st chapter - circus maximus
    Jäästä syntynyt varjojen virta - moonsorrow
    Mei - echolyn
    The visitor - arena
    The truth will set you free - flower kings
    Devil's playground - flower kings
    Stardust we are - flower kings
    Love is the only answer - flower kings
    Humanizzimo - Roine Stolt
    A change of seasons - dream theater
    A place in the queue - the tangent
    The crucible - motorpsycho
    Karn evil 9 - Emerson lake and palmer
    Atom heart mother - pink floyd
    Scheherezade - renaissance

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 3 роки тому +1

      The Moonsorrow piece MUST be seconded. That is the zenith of what pagan metal ever can dream to be.

  • @JT40_
    @JT40_ Рік тому +5

    We need a new Symphony X reaction Doug!

  • @Devypocalypse
    @Devypocalypse 3 роки тому +13

    You need to seriously check out Blotted Science. Jarzombek will blow your mind with his 12 tone series applied to extreme instrumental metal \m/

  • @willmosher6218
    @willmosher6218 3 роки тому +44

    Another lesser-known prog epic to check out: Spock's Beard - "The Great Nothing"

    • @teasdaye
      @teasdaye 3 роки тому +3

      True. Basically anything Neal Morse is involved with is more or less classic prog with modern execution, would be nice to hear a reaction to that part of the genre.

    • @victormontielpiano
      @victormontielpiano 3 роки тому +4

      And The Light :)

    • @Eincrou
      @Eincrou 3 роки тому +1

      Good suggestion. I'd love it if we could push him towards the Neal Morse-verse.

    • @Sorc47
      @Sorc47 3 роки тому +1

      I would definitely love to see some Spock's Beard on this channel.

    • @jeffjones9448
      @jeffjones9448 3 роки тому

      Yes! Both Spocks Beard and Niel Morse are excellent suggestions!

  • @Jesse_Drake
    @Jesse_Drake 3 роки тому +17

    Gotta check out "The Accolade" or "The Edge of Forever"

    • @mournblade898
      @mournblade898 3 роки тому +2

      I second this, The Accolade is a jewel

    • @stevehildner5630
      @stevehildner5630 3 роки тому

      Yah, The Edge of Forever is a really crunchy live album. It sucks that there are few live UA-cam clips of them that do any justice. What's up with that? DT has so many polished sets, and Sx has, like, Bloodstock?

  • @lives4summits
    @lives4summits Рік тому +1

    Loved your commentary on this video. I’ve loved this song for 20+ years.

  • @erikswagerty6551
    @erikswagerty6551 3 роки тому +33

    It does sound like a 90s era synth. However, that most definitely is NOT a "pad sound."
    Pad sounds have a very slow attack and release.
    Think of a "pad" as the soft droning choir or string section in the background. Kinda like the constant drone of a Tanpura that accompanies an Indian Sitarist.
    That is definitely a 90s synth "POLYPHONIC Square wave Lead" patch though. Considering the era, it was most likely a Korg Triton or Trinity. POssibly a Kurzweil K-2500.

    • @CharlesSoulzOfficial
      @CharlesSoulzOfficial 3 роки тому +8

      Great comment. I like it. Pinella uses Yamaha and Roland. But I don’t know if he uses on this record. The lead sounds is Saw, not square. But, yeah, great comment. Thanks for sharing some technical knowledge. Cheers 🤘🏻

    • @md1476
      @md1476 3 роки тому

      Pinella oftentimes was playing a Roland JP8000 for leads, dont know if that's what he recorded with here or not.

    • @legatrix
      @legatrix 3 роки тому

      Wait, but when did he say the 90s synth was a pad? I heard him talk about 90s synth during the lead, then pads later. I'm sure he knows what a synth pad is.

  • @battileddu9929
    @battileddu9929 3 роки тому +1

    this is the reaction I have been waiting for a veeeeeeery long time :D thank you soooo much doug

  • @ivanterrrivel
    @ivanterrrivel 3 роки тому +5

    Epic song. This album was their second album I've heard, and I consider it one of the best.

  • @Irka87
    @Irka87 2 роки тому +1

    Hi, Doug! I've been watching most of your reaction videos and now I'm a fan, it's so much fun! And I'm glad that you've been reacting to Symphony X, my most favorite band ever!! Please do more Symphony X reactions, stay safe and healthy always!! 🤘🖤🤘

  • @arcam4981
    @arcam4981 3 роки тому +8

    for the long friday song I suggest: Milliontown by Frost*, Crossroads by Southern Empire, Ocean Cloud by Marillion, The Narrow Margin by IQ

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 3 роки тому +1

      HUGELY . . .
      HIGHLY recommend Frost* "Milliontown" (or "Blacklight Machine"). Their debut album is about as "perfect" as you can get. An astoundingly talented band that more should know. And that they pull it off live!

  • @emayfrit
    @emayfrit 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent Doug, that was extremely interesting, thanks much! Keep on keeping on...its great privilege to hear your insights!

  • @PootTheBard
    @PootTheBard 3 роки тому +3

    Man, Since I have subbed to this channel, I have been geeking out on Music Theory again. Thanks Doug for doing what you do!

  • @In-Ear-Studio
    @In-Ear-Studio 11 місяців тому +1

    What a great great great composition. Michael Romeo is one of the best musicians for me, top 10 of the world.

  • @RossOfRoni
    @RossOfRoni 3 роки тому +8

    OK Doug, I've thought about it a bit, did a quick search through your videos, and I have decided you need another Ayreon song recommended:
    Ayreon - Isis and Osiris
    It's the 11 minute 11 second 2nd track to their INTO THE ELECTRIC CASTLE album, which is still today an incredible prog metal outing from 1998. If you want the full intro, you could also listen to the 3-minute intro track, too, which really sets the story for you actually so maybe you do wanna listen to it!
    I've only been listening to Ayreon for a few years now, but this album is truly, to me, their "most electric" album, but it also has some of my favorite vocals too. Hope you have a great one!

  • @balatroaprilis7265
    @balatroaprilis7265 3 роки тому +9

    re: Holst's Planets
    69 King Crimson performed Mars live, but when they wanted to record it they were denied permission so they reworked it and called it "The Devil's Triangle".
    Manfred Mann's Earth Band made Jupiter into a song called "Joybringer".
    ELPowell did a straight adaptation of Mars in the '80s.

    • @jeffreycollins7297
      @jeffreycollins7297 3 роки тому +1

      I would say THERE YA GO Doug, let's see ya do the Crimson one, but they are such legal assholes.

    • @Forritouno
      @Forritouno 3 роки тому

      @@jeffreycollins7297 He did a reaction on Starless, the video got taken down in less than a day.

  • @ZdenekHadascok
    @ZdenekHadascok 3 роки тому +15

    "Here we are - Children of Sun and Stars
    The first to know and to understand
    Living by the Law of the Ages
    Prophets and sages - forging Utopia"
    THE BEST LYRICS EVER IN THE MANKIND

    • @scotttak
      @scotttak 3 роки тому +1

      You could say they are the ultimate Evolution of lyrics. Quite the lyrical Grand Design.

    • @Metalton95
      @Metalton95 3 роки тому

      Hm, I prefer Warrel Dane & Chuck Schuldiner, since I find SX’s lyrics to be their only ‘weakness’. Still my 3 favourite bands, and especially SX are magical!

  • @panzerlieb
    @panzerlieb 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Prog rock lives.
    This is the first time I’ve heard this group. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @HuckHouston
    @HuckHouston 3 роки тому +31

    You HAVE to do A Change of Seasons or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Score 20th Anniversary w/ an Orchestra) by Dream Theater!

  • @javierdavidsolisjinesta5570
    @javierdavidsolisjinesta5570 7 місяців тому +1

    a masterpiece my friend, a piece of art in this time.

  • @tmauro386
    @tmauro386 3 роки тому +4

    Woo hoo BG next week
    I really hope it’s sacred worlds full length but thinking it’ll likely be and then there was silence since most have been asking for it. Just too many great songs by them to choose from! You’re an absolute legend Doug! 🤟🇨🇦🤟

  • @harrygorrod4463
    @harrygorrod4463 3 роки тому +54

    Blind Guardians "and then there was silence"

  • @chriss.8582
    @chriss.8582 3 роки тому +5

    I've never clicked on a thumbnail so fast.

  • @darrenc8697
    @darrenc8697 Рік тому +1

    Glad this video is back online 🙂. Love symphony X

  • @marcmichel8855
    @marcmichel8855 3 роки тому +16

    For a prog rock epic with an orchestra, you should try Sheherazzade by Renaissance

    • @JohnLRice
      @JohnLRice 3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely and definitely!!!! 💪🥳👍 Sweeping, epic, beautiful, and exciting! One of THE very best written, performed, and recorded prog rock with orchestra pieces ever! 👌

    • @JohnLRice
      @JohnLRice 3 роки тому +2

      This person's upload sounds pretty good, is well indexed, and someone posted the lyrics in the comments.
      Song of Scheherazade - Renaissance
      ua-cam.com/video/6dH5y0BUXZ4/v-deo.html

    • @francescodedominicis5559
      @francescodedominicis5559 3 роки тому +2

      Yess

  • @spyrosstathis1250
    @spyrosstathis1250 3 роки тому +1

    Doug you are the person that I want to hang out, drink beers or bourbon and talk about music haha. You really are an inspiration!
    Keep up your amazing work! Michael Romeo is my favourite guitar player and SX my favourite band. Thanks for reacting to this masterpiece

  • @nickman287
    @nickman287 3 роки тому +3

    About the song, I don't drink but I still sit back and enjoy it! Also, always saw it as lucifer's fall from paradise, mostly from his point of view, ending with him being banished to earth, and realizing the conflict and "sin" that takes place there is his paradise.
    Next symphony x song: when all is lost ?

  • @mystictr1265
    @mystictr1265 3 роки тому +1

    Omg i miss symphony x, I’ve seen them twice in Toronto and was absolutely blown away. Incredible band.

  • @sebyperion
    @sebyperion 3 роки тому +5

    Like Centaurus said, I'm too all for a whole "V - The New Mythology Suite" album reaction, since it has plenty of classical references I think you'd enjoy. Great reaction. :)

  • @Mindseas
    @Mindseas 2 роки тому

    Hey Doug, accidentally stumbled upon this video, and boy am I glad I did!
    I've been listening to Symphony X for the last 20 odd years, and been into music for at least as long as a hobbyist, and your insight into the classical aspects of this song was such a pleasure to listen to, really enlightening stuff! Your thoughts and analysis gave me a newfound appreciation for Symphony X and their compositions, and I'm super grateful for that!
    Hope you're well, and I look forward to hearing more of your videos now that I've discovered your channel, peace

  • @user-ov5nd1fb7s
    @user-ov5nd1fb7s 3 роки тому +4

    The whole album is great. Very strong writing. This was in the mid 90s

  • @inelovnord7566
    @inelovnord7566 Рік тому +1

    This is my favorite album, and in the same time my favorite song of all time, that's pure paradise .

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому +10

    Very funny how you said "they had to go to Em so the guitarplayer could solo...". That is hilarious. The "guitar player" is MICHAEL ROMEO... and HE is the one that writes the MUSIC. He can solo in any key or mode he wants to, anytime he feels like it. ROMEO is #1 for a reason.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 3 роки тому +3

      Also, they tune down to D standard, so it wouldn't be as easy to play in Em.

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 3 роки тому

      @@Kylora2112 Yes. Also: Romeo is classically trained, and he studied composers like John Williams. So he can blend old with new easily. He wanted to do a film score, but I guess he never got the chance to. I know he would be great at it. He has ALL the tools in his giant toolbox. The stuff he has done with Symphony-X over the years proves it.

  • @MrJaska77
    @MrJaska77 3 роки тому

    This is so awesome. You, sir, have just taken me to a fantastic journey to my youth. 25 years ago! Sheesh, time just passes by. Thank you, thank, you!

  • @shredder66
    @shredder66 3 роки тому +4

    Doug please check out Wintersun!
    Couple of songs to check out would be Sons of Winter and Stars, or perhaps Time. Great symphonic and classical elements incorporated into melodic power metal with clean and harsh vocals, plus choral parts!

  • @juaneorlandi
    @juaneorlandi 2 роки тому +1

    Cheers man :) I love this song so much.

  • @JT40_
    @JT40_ 3 роки тому +3

    Love this song!! Thanks Doug!

  • @mortisnoctu
    @mortisnoctu 3 роки тому +2

    "This is lifted from Bach" LMFAOOOOO Yup. They incorporate tons of segments from classical pieces into their tunes. EPIC

  • @sethkaicer319
    @sethkaicer319 3 роки тому +38

    Doug is a Titan who calls Mount Olympus home.

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 3 роки тому +1

      I can't unsee this

  • @jeffreycollins7297
    @jeffreycollins7297 3 роки тому +2

    I understand where you are coming from. My personal recommendation would be for THE ACCOLADE. Such a beautiful song along with such a kickass track.

  • @Spivonious
    @Spivonious 3 роки тому +12

    Something off of V has to be next. The whole album is too long to do a video for, but it's worth a listen. One of my top 10.

    • @timvanderwart2960
      @timvanderwart2960 3 роки тому +1

      Spock's Beard's V? A resounding yes :)

    • @Hy-jg8ow
      @Hy-jg8ow 3 роки тому +1

      @@timvanderwart2960 Its ok, but SX's V is waaaaaay better.

    • @BradenMcClure-q6k
      @BradenMcClure-q6k 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Hy-jg8owit not OK it perfect

  • @Eincrou
    @Eincrou 3 роки тому

    Thanks for another amazing song and analysis. I never knew that this song takes from classical pieces. You've now reacted to both of Symphony X's main epics, and I look forward to seeing what's coming next Friday!

  • @viniciussiqueira1875
    @viniciussiqueira1875 Рік тому +5

    Symphony X is the last stage of metal music (you starts with classic rock, jumps to heavy metal then thrash m. and finally you mix the techinic with a great composers). Romeo is a genius

  • @bukeksiansu2112
    @bukeksiansu2112 3 роки тому +2

    Michael Romeo, the greatest underrated guitar gods!!

  • @kodlonovich
    @kodlonovich 3 роки тому +11

    I think you should try Bruce Dickinson's solo albums. I would definitely love to see you review Jerusalem, I have a feeling you would like that one a lot

    • @LIVS10
      @LIVS10 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, yes, yes!!!! Jerusalem and Darkside of Aquarius i think he wourld really enjoy!!

  • @Thanatopsis
    @Thanatopsis 3 роки тому +1

    This has been one of my favourite pieces around 15 years or so now and this makes me appreciate it in a whole new light. There's such huge value in your analysis (and I love that you have a crack at the lyrics as well)
    ....also consider this another vote for A Change of Seasons by Dream Theater.

  • @Jeff321
    @Jeff321 3 роки тому +7

    Please react to Haken - Crystallized! It is prog metal... with some twists! Haken is like a modern Dream Theater.

  • @diegocazau
    @diegocazau 3 роки тому +1

    Symphony X - Through the Looking Glass ... it's another masterpiece!!

  • @Sid00077
    @Sid00077 3 роки тому +34

    Recommendation: Pain of Salvation- King of loss or The perfect element pt.1 (remixed versions)

    • @nickman287
      @nickman287 3 роки тому +4

      Or iter impius/martius nauticus

    • @odusantana
      @odusantana 3 роки тому +7

      After Opeth, Dream Theater and Symphony X, Doug needs to discover Pain of Salvation. It's time for this!

    • @mattcraig2545
      @mattcraig2545 3 роки тому +3

      Also., Beyond The Pale!

    • @lauscho
      @lauscho 3 роки тому +2

      @@nickman287 YES, I've been suggesting Iter Impius/Martius Nauticus II on many of his videos! Second that one!

    • @chriss.8582
      @chriss.8582 3 роки тому +1

      I've always been partial to Beyond the Pale and People Passing By, but yeah, I'd like to see Doug do any Pain of Salvation reaction.

  • @EdwardFlores
    @EdwardFlores 3 роки тому +2

    Gustav Holst... his one of my favs and also one of MJR's favs