RetroTink 5X Review - PS2 HD Games & More Consoles! - Adam Koralik
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're checking out the RetroTink 5X by Mike Chi. It takes RGB based component signals and converts them to HDMI. It also supports composite and S-Video, and even SCART as well. Mike actually designed this as the ultimate PlayStation 2 enhancer, in addition to all the other consoles it can support.
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There are three scart types that should be addressed in the description so that some players aren't disappointed.
1. A scart adaptor - this is not scart - It is simply AV cables in an RCA to scart connection adaptor.
2. A regular scart lead. This is the same as above but with an actual (7 pin) scart connection. Quality wise, it's still just an AV cable.
3. RGB Scart - this is the true high quality scart. Usually 21 pin.
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People trying to keep the framemeister expensive on ebay are sad.
It'll go down once the general public starts getting their hands on this. The framemeister was kind of ahead of its time but it is getting antiquated now.
You can still get them from Solaris Japan? A bit more expensive than when I got mine in 2016 but when they are still available no need to go to the scalpers.
No reason to buy that junk, especially when it adds a lot of input lag. This is much better.
I got my 5X up and running today and it's great. A bit on the pricey side but you definitely get what you pay for, and it delivers.
But Adam, if the yellow cable is a long story we have time. So we went from an omelet with rotten eggs, to pancakes with urine, cooking with Adam.
I love the niche retro gaming videos. I've commented on your channel a few times before, and you always reply to help out. Whenever I'm looking for specific information about my old consoles, you always conveniently have a video that addresses it.
Thanks again.
My pleasure.
Adam is the type of guy who puts a ruler under his pillow to see how long he slept.
Seems....legit.
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This is exactly what I needed like 4 months ago lol since then I just went out and picked up a CRT glad people have a proper solution though
Also love u Adam you beautiful bearded man
Cant go wrong with a working CRT
I was gonna buy a CRT but the good quality ones are $500 and above, so I rather just get this lol
@@Oni64 , sure, if you want back problems and also potentially end up getting squished for lugging around a 46" screen monster, that is, IF you can move it around, anyway.
@@paxhumana2015 Yea its a pain. always good to have help when carrying anything 32 inch and over.
I love the video. We are definitely going to need some follow ups. I would love to see a comparison between the 5x on the PS2 vs a launch PS3. I also want to see how it upscales consoles like the Wii. Thank you so much for this video.
Just bought mine through your link man, can't wait for my ps2 to look amazing
Amazing? No. Less bad. It's still the PS2.
@@AdamKoralik I had some ps2 to hdmi converter with the m cable and it looked like composite, then I got some component cables with a 20$ converter to hdmi and now it's playable but I'm still not satisfied lol. I remember it looking so much better with just components on an older and smaller flat-screen before. Thanks for the response by the way 👍
1st mothers day without your mom. I hope all is well Adam. Keep up the great work.
That food analogy was so freaking stupid, I love it.
I’m dead!!! URINE? And Adams pause right after. Hilarious!
And here I am two weeks out from publishing my first video on the OG RetroTink2X. Great video!
Nice! This is what I was waiting for. An all around solid all-in-one upscaler
Adam's face when someone asks why it looks bad on their 📺 👺 jajajajaja
I picked up one of these with a dreamcast scart cable (retro access) included for $20 at a local store over the weekend.
Definitely one of the buys of all time.
Of course, I bought an OSSC a couple of weeks ago and new stuff starts dropping. Love the OSSC with the HD Retrovision cables though. Haven't had a solution to play my old consoles on our new TV in awhile.
i’m glad this thing exists i’m sure overtime with firmware updates it’s only gona get better
I recently got HD RetroVision cables for my Model 2 Genesis, and even straight into my TV, it such such a ridiculous improvement over RF! I have a decent retro collection, but I'm not too serious with it (mostly because I currently don't have any room to expand). In the future, I'd love to pick up this RetroTink with more HD RetroVision cables.
I got mine in the mail today. I love this! So easy to use, great options. I had the retrotink scart 2x, then moved to the OSSC. Once I got this, I'll never go back. Picture looks incredible on saturn and ps1 so far. Threw my OSSC out the window.
Don't put piss in your pancake mix . It's that simple. I nearly choked on my pancake. The irony. Haaaaaaa
At the moment I have enough with my Framemeister and Mclassic, but honestly this retrotink attracts me. Let's see if anything new is known about the next OSSC to compare products.
This may just be the device I've been waiting for.
OSSC Pro I feel is going to be the end all / be all, but at a significantly higher price. This Retrotink 5X however, while still expensive, is the target of the casual gamer / streamer due to the ease of use, instant resolution handling, and compatibility and will leave people satisfied without the tweaking that the OSSC Pro provides.
But I also want to plug the PixelFX Morph, with its HDMI input. It's definitely something to be excited for as well.
@@alucard971 is PixelFx Morph where you take it to someone or a shop, and they open the console, like an N64, and solder it?
@@tonyrd43 No. PixelFX Morph is another scaler coming from PixelFX. www.pixelfx.co/content/morph_roadmap.html
@@alucard971 how do I buy it? I don't see any way to buy it?
This is quite interesting to see a device nearly surpassing the Framemeister in almost every way. Which is good news considering the newer tech and cost of a Framemeister nowadays. This feels like the up scaler I've been waiting to come out!
@Charlie B Which is why you wait and don't buy from resellers who think they can get away with this price gouging. Buying from them only encourages them to keep reselling things at higher prices.
@Charlie B Idk what graphic cards have to do with this conversation (other than having dumb trade tariffs making them more expensive. You have the last president to thank for that one.) or more curiously where you get 3 years from. However what I said still applies even to graphic cards. If for some reason you are still disappointed... well sorry to say your wasting your energy on me. I can't fix price gouging.
Thanks for explaining in a simple way! You gave a good explanation on the evolution from the first Retrotink device to the 5x. I have a 2x pro and was debating whether to upgrade to a 5x.
April fools video idea "Cooking With Adam" staring Rotten eggs, Urine and Pickles, all your favorites 🤣 great video dude as always.
If I meet Adam K and he asks me if I want a omelette or pancakes I'll just decline
1) Dope shirt.
2) Shout-out for the pancake reference.
3) I've been extensively researching the best way to connect my PS2 (and other consoles) with my LG CX tv. It's between this or buying a backwards compatible PS3. Great stuff man! I didn't know this was out. I've seen the reviews on the other Retrotinks. Major shout-out to Mike. PS those HD RV cables are tough to come across!
Good to see this just keeps getting better and better. And it's great that the Sega Saturn finally has something that can handle its resolution changes better than anything we have to date. Too bad he didn't use USB-C on the cable connection though.
Also, I like PANCAKES with milk not urine. So, USE THE BEST POSSIBLE CABLES FOR THE CONSOLE PEOPLE!
Oh yeah. Great work, as always Adam!
I just ordered one of these! They added an update a while ago that adds a time base corrector for VHS, so I am excited to try that out!
I've been waiting for this!
I've always came across multiple different versions made only for one console so i never bothered getting any of them.
I can't wait for mine 5X. Thanks for showing how it works with PS2 (I bought it just for PS2).
I bought the multi format just for PS2 right before this came out I'm very happy with it and it's cheaper than this device
Would love to see how good _Gran Turismo 4_ looks with this device.
Thanks for the informative video. I have a sega saturn so maybe i’ll get one. Your videos are so entertaining man, thanks for doing your thing.
The 5x-4k is coming soon Im happy I waited & upgraded to an OLED first
Very interesting video. The HD RetroVision PS2 cables itself without RetroTink does an excellent job. Is it perfect ? No. I have noticed minor frame rate variation with Resident Evil 1-2 and also that 1 second black screen during loading time. Other than that it looks great. So if you are low on budget just get yourself the cable, you won't regret it. I am not saying RetroTink 5x is a bad product, I just think it's very expensive versus what I get in return.
I'm curious to see how the internal PS2 HDMI mod would turn out.
In 5 years from now: "Sony is re-releasing the PS2 with an RTX 4080Ti in it!...Annnnnnddddd...it still looks horrible. I don't get it."
PS2 Classic!
I hope for a component only (component input - up to 4k hdmi output) cheaper and more massed produced version happens someday. I'm all about OG Xbox. And have a cheap VGA only version for Dreamcast fanatics. We can dream.
Recently got the pound cable for my PS one and Kaico hdmi cable for my Dreamcast. Very pleased with the picture quality they deliver.
"You and your Fortnites" -Quote of 2021
Showed up for the 5x, here for the pause before "would you eat that?"
Love HD Retrovision cables. I only have one Mike Chi device and that's the component to rgb converter which allows me to play with component cables on my PVM. I guess I could have bought individual cables but this is nice. The RetroTink 5x is going to really disrupt the converter market. Assuming he can keep up with demand.
I use CRT for PS2 and it looks great, never been too impressed with component
Well, to each their own.
To be fair, Component on PS2 is a bad example. PS2 video signal is just bad to begin with regardless if you’re using component just simply because of how poorly Sony implemented it.
GameCube component on the other hand is practically the gold standard at least when it comes to the 6th gen consoles
Component through the right device at native resolution will change your mind.
@@bronzin1445 Both consoles + OSSC and hdmi to vga
If there's a Tink that accepts 480i/p, then you can use that too! As good as Dreamcast's VGA, whether or not you want to believe it.
What Component Cables did you use? If you used cheap ones you may not be as satisfied, you might notice a difference moreso on a bigger CRT coming from someone who has 2 CRTs one is 14 inches and the other is 28 inches with RGB SCART going from Composite to RGB SCART (Retro Gaming Cables) it's a night and day different especially on the 28 inches, but the bootup screen on the 14 incher does not look much different in my opinion but when you get into the game, it's so much better plus my 14 incher doesn't support NTSC as I have a PAL PlayStation 2 which to use 60Hz you need a display with NTSC (Why Sony?) but you get around that with an RGB SCART cable if your CRT supports PAL60
Thanks for explaining what the 5x does. Mike needs to hire you to do marketing, lol. I didn't know this sort of device existed until I started poking around reddit several months ago, and to be honest, the retrotink website kind of doesn't really explain what these devices do (you kind of have to be in the know already).
Will official component cables for the PS2/PS3 work without also having to buy the Retrovision cables for the 5x since unless told games will default to 480i?
Yeah, the HD Retrovision ones are just better.
Love this guy. Just a good dude
Hey Adam, great video as always! I currently don’t have the HD retrovison cables. I will get them. In the mean time what is my best option? OEM ps2 component cable or OEM SCART cable? I have PS2 slim , Retrotink 5X and MClassic currently. ( I also have the M cable but have not used it yet for this set up). Also my tv is a 4k OLED. Advice please. All the best -smarfie!
Adam, quick question, have you ever tried using RGB SCART instead of component on the PS2? I always found RGB to produce a much more colourful and cleaner picture than component. You can even get 480p and 1080i to work with RGB SCART, albeit using sync on green. One neat trick I found is that you can send both YPbPr and RGB over SCART with the PS2, so you don't even need to swap cables. The OSSC accepts sync on green and YPbPr through its SCART port, how about the RetroTINK 5X?
@10:29 Depends on what program you're using for capture too. With Elgato there are three stages of full vs limited output in OBS. One in configure video under properties, second is in properties, third is in video output. Also with OBS, the colour space of your output folder can really mess with video players like VLC and Windows Media Player, as well as video editing software. I444 in OBS crushes everything to hell in Premiere Pro for instance. Have you tried REcentral 4? it's simple compared to OBS, but it doesn't matter much if you're editing in post anyway.
Edit: just to add, if you have problems with REcentral stretching to 16:9, you just need to use this formula in reference to scale width to get it corrected:
(original res)/(16:9)
so if 4:3 got stretched to 16:9 for example:
(4/3)/(16/9)=0.75 = 75% scale width
for 3:2:
(3/2)/(16/9)= 0.84375 = 84.4%
352x240(Saturn):
(356/240)/(16/9) = 0.825 = 82.5%(although 4:3 is more correct)
Hoping he adds VGA to the next version for the dreamcast and also a HDMI passthrough would be nice.
I agree VGA would be nice. The work around for my setup is using the DreamCast SCART cable from retro-access. 15kHz/31kHz switch right on the cable. Works great and looks great with no VGA box needed.
I use a toro box which has vga and scart out :)
Im waiting patiently to see how the hd retrovision dreamcast component cables turn out
10:47 Even Mike Chi represents his likes for rabbits on the RetroTink 5X itself!
It won't be long till he releases the 10X and includes a picture of ❌'d out -turtles- and -rhinos- and -potatoes-
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I've know how poopy composite video is for 20 years. When I upgraded my 27" Samsung CRT in 2001 (Bought New in 1999) from composite to S-Video on my PS2, there was no going back, I'd never seen such a clean picture on a home TV before. My current TV is a circa 2006 Hitachi 720p 70" LCD rear projection TV, bought as new. I have to find the manual to give the exact model number, but it was their top of the line in the range, MRSRP was like $6K and imagine the inflated figure! I think I paid like $4K.
Handles all you're talking about here minus SCART and that non-standard component version component video. I should buy this thing and a/b comparison. Cus I'd of gotten rid of the TV but it handles 480i so well, plus it still looks good for HD stuff. There's no lag, no deinterlacing problems, and it upscales really good on it's own. It looks just like a my Samsung 27" CRT but just way bigger. It's an all in one solution to playing retro games and having them look good. Running Gran Turismo 4 in 1080i looks really good. I wish I would have made a video about how my Retro Consoles worked in my MK VI Theater before I took it apart like it is now. The TV Still works fine, but it's abandoned in place, because It's too heavy for me to move on my own, and there's no where else to put the big ass thing. Both those problems are caused by just wanting to play with stereo gear instead. I have an abandoned Home theater LOL.
@18:20 YES YOU DO NEED TO GET ALL OF THE PIECES. good point.
In your opinion, if I wanted to only use ps2 with component cables, would you say the Retrotink M be best or paying the more expensive 5x? Thanks!
Also, things like the eon super 64, would you recommend that over purchasing a retrotink. There are a few different options for n64, gamecube, Dreamcast, and even Xbox that I’ve seen you cover. Are those technically a better alternative to the Retrotink? Thanks again!
It's not really an all in one solution. Due to how wide the retro pool is, you kind of need the right pieces to go with it.
honestly, the lack of the smoothing mode kills this for me. The fact that the mClassic doesn't seem to do much with a ps2 through this, and the lack of a smoothing mode, means I can't use it for the one use case it should be perfect for. The ps2 is the only 7th gen console this should be considered for as there are better/equal options for the xbox and GC for much less money, but with no viable anti-aliasing solution we're still stuck with a less than ideal solution. Annoying as I can get a better image out of an n64 than this
I need to revise this comment now as I believe Mike Chi has added the smoothing mode in a firmware update - what a legend
I was watching this video on my phone and my cat hit the like button for me.
great pancake analogy, but I think a lot of people also pollute the stream by using bad passive console selectors.
Since this new version supports 1440p which is mostly used in pc monitors, the colorspace option makes sense. Most devices run on RGB limited and most TVs are made to run on that mode, recognizing 16 as black and 235 as white, but when you connect to many PC monitors, the image will be washed out since it is expecting for 0 to be black and 255 to be white. Many recent TVs already recognize the modes automatically and besides that, it doesnt offer any color depth advantages even though RGB full is supposed to be a bit better technically than Limited, in practice it is only meant to display correctly on different displays.
Glad you uploaded a review of this, it's been a while since youtube recommended me one of your vids even though I've been subbed for YEARS lol
Yeah, it does that.
Great review...Thanks Adam!
Adam: Limited RGB is better for capture
Also Adam: It captures darker than it should
Correct.
I love the food analogy you do. This one had me dieing with laughter it was hilarious. If that doesn't make people understand that the right cables I don't know what will. Great video I loved it. Been looking forward to the product and your video.
Hey Adam, had any luck with Sega Master System or Power Base Converter on the RetroTINK 5X? The product description warns about compatibility issues with that system.
No? But I didn't test that extensively to be honest.
So the RetroTink 5X upscales consoles up to 1440P? Also I just died of laughter after you explained how to make "urine pancakes"!
Yes, it has 1440p support.
What's worth noting is that the Framemeister doesn't have an issue with component - it's with 480p. 240p over component is just as good as RGB (tested with Genesis and PS1 on PS2). The FM has a serious horizontal blurring issue with 480p on all inputs, even on the Scart and HDMI inputs, which was the case when routing the Dreamcast through both of those, and the GameCube with component.
Valid point.
I have never believed that the FM was ever build with the idea of supporting 480p sources in mind. Everything was always about native low resolutions and upscaling.
I had the ossc cover for that entire field like a champ in most cases, but another thing is now with 2D games getting released on later gen consoles, there's no devices out there to cover them aside from using ossc with a hdmi to vga adapter.
Btw, Gunlord X with full cross scanline support on PS4 BABY!!! You'll never see anybody else make an effort to cover it.
I didn't know what to expect in this review...
But it wasn't Urine Pancakes...
Great video Adam!
Bruh. I have the 2x and LOVE IT....whoooaa this thing looks cooool!!!!
Great video and product. I would love to own one for my ps2, but the price and the import taxes would be as expensive as a ps5 or series x, probably :D
But that and the mClassic are a very powerful combo, no doubt. Great review, stay safe!
Quick question: the RetroTINK 5X's highest resolution is 1440p, but not all capture cards support it. I've read that the Elgato 4K60S+ does not support 1440p period. What happens when you plug the mClassic into the 5X outputting 1440p? Does it upscale the 1440p to 2160p?
It'll remain 1440p.
@@AdamKoralik I see. I assume the mClassic will at least upscale the 5X's 1080p output to 2160p, right? It seemed to have issues with the OSSC's >2X modes.
Micro USB is just the worst. I hate how it became the standard power connector for small electronics, and I hate it when new devices continue to use it. It's 2021 and micro USB should have gone out with the 2010's.
Probably going to get this to replace my OSSC just to get rid of those extended black screen on res changes with Saturn (my last non-HDMI modded retro console). It also might make me get into PS2 again which is an added bonus. This thing is a beauty particularly when it comes to ease of use!
You can still use an older tink to handle the resolution switching and keep the smoothing feature.
hd retrovision's ps2 cables are a full component cable, not their typical RGB to component fare, they already support 480p
The resolution is determined by the console, but yes, they do support it.
@@AdamKoralik How well do they hold up to Sony's official brands? I only start to get the ghost lines when I output 1080p via an older console
I’m a PlayStation fan I’m very excited about this all of the sports titles and action games I own will look fantastic 😁😁😁😁
Nintendo: WHAT? They’re playing our older games and praising them and recommending them to others. UNACCEPTABLE.
I noticed when you move the setting from HDMI Limited to HDMI Full. The picture got a little darker. Thats something to note.
FIGURE IT OUT lets go
RGB SHART.
Nice. :P
I need a nice scalier to replace the framemeister. Ill forever keep mine thou.
I need a nice scalier for the 480p consoles. xbox, ps2, wii and such. plus saturn changes resolutions alot for some games and the new scaliers deal with that better.
GBS-Control is another new scailer out that is more like a framemister, it also downscales and changes resolutions very good. I hear 2 other scaliers are coming, OSSC pro and something else. I have high hopes fro the new ossc.
I gotta wait it out to see what reviews best and what unit will work best for me.
Youre so good at talking😆
Great video man. I have the LevelHike PS2 HDMI cable, makes the picture look pretty damn sharp. Thoughts on how much of a jump in video quality I can expect if I go from LevelHike to RetroTink 5X? If you've heard of/tried out the LevelHike products that is
Going from $30 to $300, I wanna make sure I'm getting a very noticeable difference lol
LevelHike products are mostly trash.
You can look that up about them, they're not well reviewed.
The RetroTink 5X is in every way superior.
But it's still the PS2, you're not ever going to be impressed.
The “motion adaptive” deinterlacing mode is the one you want to use for consoles that run at 480i because you don’t get that flicker like the bob deinterlacing you get on the OSSC which was annoying. It’s a combination of both “bob” and “weave” deinterlacers. The “motion adaptive” deinterlacer is also a high quality deinterlacer. Adding the mClassic to it can make it better but it’s personal preference. Some people like the mClassic’s benefits, some people don’t.
Does your display have a good deinterlacer for passthru mode? Really good deinterlace would require the set doesn't do image processing and will only introduce lag + make it look worse. I have to look at my settings because I managed to get 480i super sharp and clear without any type of jitter involved.
I didn’t say anything about me having a good deinterlacer on a good display in passthrough mode. All I said was that the motion adaptive deinterlacing mode is the one to use and it’s a high quality deinterlacing method. I never mentioned a word about me having a good deinterlacer on a good display.
The one thing OSSC does that the 5x doesn't have is resolution specific scanlines. I would hope in an update that scanlines could be enabled for 240p sources only. I would also hope for hybrid style scanlines in the future as well. Other than that, Mike Chi, you have outdone yourself to have a worthy replacement for the OSSC and framemeister. I'll gladly wait for those updates because the 5x is my only hope to get SNES on my Picky Sony X900H over RGB or Component.
I keep telling the community that vertical scanlines are vastly important to games and not just emulated looking scanlines that make all the pixel lines look solid clear like they're on an emulator.
I've been testing cross scanlines for 2 years to get that line count effect and right now I'm currently adding it to several 2D games coming on newer consoles where they're really needed. Mike isn't beating out Marqs in this game where it comes to some of the more important aspects people haven't even bothered to look at yet.
Hey Adam! Awesome video! Have you tried this device with modern 4K TV? By example, My 2016 Samsung 4K is no compatible with 480p / 720p and wondering if 1080p mode will work for PS2 games. Thanks!
Of course, that's kind of the whole point.
So Adam, keep my RGB Scart cables for my Genesis 2 or get the HD Retrovision components? Getting rid of my framemeister. And do I use the mCable for ultimate hookup? And if so which one? Heard they have different ones.
All a matter of personal preference to be honest.
I don't know if I got a defective retrotink 5x pro, but all I get is static/electrical sounds coming from my speakers, and the mclassic is not compatible with it. Just says no signal when I connect it
I know we shit on Composite a lot, but there are certain aspects of composite that REALLY hit that nostalgia bone. Personally I think RGB is 'too clean' a signal for my tastes, and probably settle somewhere in the S-Video range for the best mix of nostalgia and quality. - - Then again I was on RF Ch3 until Dead Rising came out on the X360 and I learned about better signals.... I thought the fact it screwed in meant it was the best option (child logic)
Might have to try get one those.
21:00 in addition to replacing the Micro USB
How about dual HDMI output, each with different settings, so one could have all the scanlines and whatnot to look good on your TV and the other could have the brightness adjusted and look good on capture/streaming
Cool!! New options with upscaling are always welcome!!! The more the better! Mmmmmm pancakes!!!
Hey Adam, have you ever done a comparison of a cheap ps2 component cable vs retrovision ones? Are they worth the 10x price difference?
Short answer, yes.
Hello Adam! , thank you very much for all the super useful information you give us on every video!
I have a quick issue with the retrotink 5x that maybe you can guide me on how to solve it.
In my setup, I have 2 scart switchers connected in between and then to the retrotik 5x. This is not perfect but got the job done, and I can play all my retro consoles on my big LED TV...
The problem came when I brought to my set up a new scart switcher, which looks very promising, 100 in and 2 out, and also is automatic so I don't have to manually change the input. Is really good, but since I installed it y don't have a good signal with my Genesis. The image starts to shake like crazy.
I've always used a SCYNC stereo cable for my Genesis, and this cable seems not to work with the retrotink 5x anymore (it works if I connect it to a CRT). I tried also to plug the console directly into the retrotink, but same results, Do you have any idea if this new switcher can break/deconfigure my retrotink? (It works perfectly with the rest of the consoles - PCE, SNES, SATURN, DREAMCAST, N64, MVS, and PS1)
Thank you very much!
Bye
Awesome review, Adam. You forgot to mention if the software can be updated or not, and how!
Pretty sure I talked about firmware updates and needing to hold down the button when doing so.
@@AdamKoralik I'm sorry, I must've somehow missed that part. Thank you for the reply. :)
Awesome video , would have loved to get your thoughts on this v.s the OSSC not just the Framemeister
The OSSC is....not great.
@@AdamKoralik would love to know why , just out of curiosity. I’m in the market for an up scaler and have been debating between the two
@@IamAlex124 So, long story short the OSSC is good at RGB stuff, but that's about it. It does everything else worse, and even the RGB content isn't actually better, it's just correct.
The OSSC also has weird compatibility issues. It does direct resolution doubling, which can lead to some funky outputs that aren't always supported by a TV/monitor. But more so it has problems with supplementary devices like the mClassic, mCable, some switch boxes, and capture devices.
The OSSC feels like and engineer designed it for RGB on a PC monitor and didn't really factor in any other setups.
The original version didn't even have HDMI out, but fortunately they at least fixed that.
@@AdamKoralik wow I see, thanks Adam for your detailed reply 😊
Great breakdown Good criticism overall good
Thanks for showing some Saturn footage! Hard to tell in the video, but does the 5x look better than the scart 2x, specifically with the Saturn?
Yes, it does. As I said, problem is capturing this stuff kind of eliminated the subtleties.
Looking better boils down to....preference. I'd say yes, but I miss the smoothing, however that's compensated by the mClassic.
If you use the remote you can make the onscreen menu go away with one press of the back button.
Adam, this is a godsend. I commented on another video of yours recently that I'm looking to make the ultimate Saturn for myself. Basically, the Satiator and full RGB output. I originally thought it was going to cost me an arm and a leg because I would need to get a RetroTink AND an MClassic to get 1080p out of it, but this looks like the all-in-one solution for me. An investment for sure, but a worthy one. Thank you so much, man, your videos are the only reason I am into this hobby.
One question, though. Component would be more convenient for me to hook up the Saturn with, but is that option any worse then or the same as SCART? I would prefer component but if SCART is better then that's what I'll get.
Uh, depends. Saturn's component to the RetroTink 5X will be fine. But if you try to use component directly on a modern TV, it's unlikely to work.
You mean COMPONENT right? Not composite?
@@AdamKoralikoh wow UA-cam didn’t tell me you responded lol now I’m back here looking to buy one a year later.
Yeah, component not composite. I have the Satiator in my Saturn rn and it’s awesome but still using composite which sucks, so I think I’ll get component for it.
Lol you love comparing the HD Retrovision cables to preparing food. But ya know what? It works, and it makes sense. I'm just never going to think of pancakes the same haha. So quick question... I have the Genesis HD Retrovision cables. Do I need to buy the ps2 HD retrovision cables, or can I buy the ten dollar ps1 adapter to use on the Genesis cables since ps1 and ps2 output jacks are the same? Thanks for the review Adam!
You need the PS2 specific ones.
I think the pancake analogy would work better if you said the cables are the quality of pan you use. The high end component cables are like a premium pan that will give you an even golden pancake. The yellow composite cable is like an old cheap pan that's rusty, has hot and cold spots, dents, warping, a loose handle, and will unevenly cook your pancake leaving burn marks, rust flakes, and just makes it dry and awful.
I have the factory sony component cables.. will these work with the 5x or do I need the HD retrovision ones? ..im wondering if there is a difference
It'll work, but I recommend the HD Retrovision ones.
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Where can I find the HD retrovision?
Good review. I have the RetroTink pro 2x multi, unfortunately most PAL ps2 game's were never progressive scan, pretty much all 576i/480i. You have to use GSM and hope the game can handle 480p without breaking, otherwise on a 55" modern tv, games can still look a tad off or blurred.
I was thinking of getting a PVM for the PS2 and prior console's and keeping the 2x multi for the xbox, Dreamcast etc as they still look good on a big TV. It's funny the Dreamcast was 2 years older than the PS2 yet could handle 480p better with many game's
Have you tried PlayStation 2 games via VGA? I haven't personally but I imagine it would be better