You wouldn't know all this foreshadowing without a strong clear confirmation by the late episodes of the show affirming it. Singed was being introduced at that scene, trying to build up our own perception of him.
What I really like about this version of singed he always has the detached manner. He takes an information he gives advice, but he's never forced anybody to do anything. Even when warning Victor about the consequences, he doesn't disregard Victor's hope merely giving a "perhaps"
I feel like there's an implied "probably not" behind that perhaps. And you see in the very next scene Jayce berating Viktor for going to the undercity for help, forgetting that Viktor himself is from the undercity. Not very understanding of him
“I understand,now” When Singed looked over and saw Viktor I can’t help but feel like Singed feared for Viktor’s health here since he was experimenting on Rio for survival
It is interesting how Singed seems to solely work on Shimmer as medication, as a way to overcome death itself. Silco uses it as a weapon and Singed probably could not care less about that and only works with him because of the subjects provided. And looking at Jinx, while her mind obviously took a major hit, her body recovered fully, so he is making progress.
this is like saying the guy who male drugs is a good guy but the one who sell them is not this is stupidity Also he worked on all those mutations for silco n willmake chemical bombs that will be used in the war xd
@@Yatagurusu he helped all sides in War, saved Jinx, saves Vander(in a sense), created shimmer, helped Victor. All he does is create. His inventions are just survival. Missuse isnt on him. He states the dangers and fact, the result is never his concern
@@Yatagurusu but war or threat of war is inevideble. Arranging preperations for your side is always seen as good and enemy side as bad. I would say the production itself is not the evil part, the results and dangers of it are. I would argue that Singed himself is in a position, where Morals are a previlegue he cant afford. Moral codes are only for the people that can afford them. People in hunger, without shelter, without social connection will never have a moral code you could agree with. Of course in your situation it doesnt make sense but i would say that Singed had few coices that would lead him to the survival of his daughter. His Goal is merely to save his daughter, no matter who wins a war, no matter who confronts him and his goal. Its like a Jester, no interest in any party winning, just playing his own Game. This is the true Neutral that is possible in this world.
@@Yatagurusu Whether something is evil or not is contingent to who's observing. Consequences by themselves aren't good or evil after all. If we were to follow your own words, consequences that have positive connotations born from morally good actions can still be evil provided the person who acted upon the action did not care about the consequences. That framework doesn't make any sense. If that was the case, then would I be evil if I helped someone stand up even though I did not particularly care about the consequences?
As an Urgot main I'd fucking love to see some Urgot references or appearances, but I'm gonna be happy as long as season 2 is as good as the first season.
I've never played League of Legends, so I was unaware of this character until I watched the show. Needless to say, he left a hell of an impression! I actually really dig this show for going out of its way to not have any antagonist be evil for evil's sake, even the mad scientist/doctor character. I hope we see more of him in Season 2.
The sheer number of situations that take place in Runeterra's lore that include Singed is pretty substantial. He's one of those characters that seems to hardly ever be seen (prior to arcane), yet his involvement in events is very common. He's mostly the reason the undercity is the way it is with his creation "Shimmer", he really set in stone Powder's "Jinx" identity, put Viktor onto his radical "glorious evolution" path and even razing Ionia via his poisons used by Noxus. All with only ~180 seconds of screen time total. Given his coincidental habit of being the cause of/appearing in tragedies, I'm sure you can look forward to seeing plenty more of him.
@@valdemar8817 and made a certain champion (will be soon in Arcane season 2) to have his bones shattered by itself, only to get healed by itself then break again. Have chemicals pours out of his eyes and mouths, put a large spike on his back the impales himself whenever negative emotions are triggered, cuts off his left arm, have him starve for weeks, then after he supposedly died, Singed throws his "corpse" on top of his failed "experiments".
@@neutralplayeroflol5722 Assuming the theories of him being Corin Reveck are correct, "THAT" champion isn't the ONLY champion he makes, not that he has to be Corin in order to put that on his resume. Having such a heavy influence on Noxus and Ionia, he can probably claim responsibility for a good number of champion backstories.
@@onnizx thats fair enough. Theres a lot of retconnong happening to the lore the last several years, so the possibility is there, but singed already being so heavily involved in so many things, I wouldn't be surprised if riot and the writers decided to limit his importance to what they already have him for sure a part of.
My favourite part was when he ran down piltover bridge with his ult active. The enforcers chased him even though Jayce and Cair started pinging them to get back
I like that he’s not just another completely evil mad scientist, sure he lacks general empathy but he’s never done anything to actively harm someone unless it’s in the process of testing something he wants to use to improve lives. He never pressures anyone into anything unless they have no choice (he could very well have just given Viktor the shimmer with no warning of the side effects, but he makes the choice to advise Viktor against it. Also when Deckard looks to him for advice he just gives a slight nod, not reassurance that it won’t kill him, but suggesting he should take it. It would have been easy to just have him encourage anyone interested, but he’s chosen not to) And from what we can tell, he only tests on people and creatures who are already dying, attempting to prevent that and expand the capacity of natural mortality
I love how Singed is kinda the main actor of Zaun and Runeterra : creates Warwick, the Shimmer and Jinx (kinda) his daughter is Orianna (could be) his quimic weapons destroy villages in Ionia by Noxus army (Riven and Yi were affected)
In lore he gasses yis village therefore making him train wukong gasses riven where she quits noxus helps kill irelias family and causes karma to awaken Ionia
@@Betroid ok yes but Irelia village was kill by Swain not Singed In fact if the comic of Darius is canon, the poison destroy the arm of the girlfriend of Darius and this is more longer but you know how ends
Well you have to remember that those voice lines are like 10 years old XD. Plus his voice in game is much more based on the old lore (obviously). Rather than the more interesting character he is in the current lore.
@@Sechwicky Yep,I also like how his Slavic accent is way less stereotypical and region-specific than Viktor`s(What makes it all the more impressive is Brett Tucker, his VA is an Aussie IRL, "Arcane" is one of the few examples of VAs putting on accents that aren`t their real ones that don`t sound stereotypical or forced at all, so unlike the source material it ain`t fuckin` funny!)
"Sometimes death is a mercy." Notice that he can entertain this thought only when keeping the subject alive has no purpose to him. His "pet" was in way more need of that mercy than Jinx, but he would've never even thought of that option for it.
Singed knew for it to work was a surgery and an experiment in one. Utter agony and permanent physical mutation. He said it, but acted regardless. Because death is a mercy only when you can't do anything to help. He can. So he does.
His voice in game is a fairly different, but I much prefer this one over the current one that he's had for over a decade now. Hopefully they get the voice actor in Arcane to do any future voiceover updates for the game.
I dig his laugh and personality in game but his voice and presence in Arcane is still some serious ASMR. Feels like I knew someone like that when I was very young.
This guy has all the qualities to be the main antagonist of the entire series, hoping they will pull it as mysterious as he already was in the first season, like a piece that ties all the others togheter, but never truily shows up
He totally has main antagonist energy, I feel like he will be revealed as the big bad at the same time it's revealed that his "weapon" (Warwick) is actually Vander...
I don't think he's a good fit for a main antagonist, he's an academic, too far removed from the day to day goings on, same reason Heimerdinger wouldn't make a good protagonist. I don't think Singed would care whether there's a war or not, whether Zaun is free or not, so long as he can continue his work. He has after all sacrificed everything for it. He's so well suited for this advisor role, and I think he will stay there. Like with Heimerdinger seeing the undercity and hinting at an arc there, I expect we might see something similar for Singed, probably the two coming into (verbal) conflict again, but with him maintaining an advisory role and a monster-maker. Of all the examples I can think of in fiction, Despicable Me is the first one, Singed would be better in the role of Dr. Nefario, not Gru.
what i like about singed is that the man is shrouded in mystery. he performs almost inhumane experiments for unknown purposes he used to know heimerdinger and apparently lost his daughter a long time ago but none of these are ever given a reason hopefully we get some lore for him in season 2 because so far he's my favourite character
I think his story will be simple, he lost his daughter and now he is searching for a way to extend the life of a dying mortal. It is a 50/50 that he is now just obsessed with life, given he lost his daughter or that his daughter is still alive in some sort of frozen in time situation and he is looking for a way to heal her.
Yeah that's an "lovely" thing I didn't think of. Crazy how in 10 minutes I just found out 2 perspectives I didn't look at the character from. But this was a great call out though
Singed is always one step ahead of everyone. He has the tendency to say things, but it has a different meaning. "Feeding Time" refers to the mouse, not the cat. "She is dying. I'm attempting to prevent that" refers to his daughter, not the mutation. "Are you prepared to lose her?" He's not refering to Jinx losing her life here, but her mental state. "Love and Legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress." When Victor reaponds with "Jayce will understand", Singed says "Perhaps". Singed isn't refering to Victor's being able to help Jayce understand, Singed refering to these two sacrificing their love and legacies. This man is the center of everything. I would argue he technically controlled Silco too. Get the man who funds your experiments addicted to your product. The scariest part is Singed few understands the result of his actions and does it anyway. When Silco says "Real power belongs to those who will do ANYTHING to achieve it" Singed is right there like the show is trying highlight him. He doesn't care about dying if it means achieving immortality.
Since the process of "healing" is rather grotesque, as we saw; Silco would very much likely intervene to stop Jinx from suffering. Also, having lost a daughter himself, SInged knows how it feels.
He reminds of Mido from "Code Vein", except he seems more emotionally distant. He doesn't seek to control everybody like Mido does in his plans for progress. Whatever happens during the evolutionary proccess, it happens, as long as it's not stoped. That's why I respect him more than Mido. Of course I would want to come out on top, but not like a leader. It would limit the potential of evolution.
Another thing is that Singed, while his experiments can be twisted, does not gets any sort of pleasure out of them. He doesn't go out of his way to make people suffer, and if they do, he doesn't feel any positive or negative emotions about it. It's just another part of the process. Mido, meanwhile, while certainly correct about Revenants and humanity needing to evolve to combat the threat of the Aragami, is a sadistic bastard who enjoys the suffering his science inflicts. We see this in Emily and Yakumo's memory echoes, as well as with Cruz. If Mido hadn't done such torturous experiments on her, she never would have frenzied, and the Queen would never have been born.
@@kamikazelemming1552men like him shouldn't be allowed anywhere near lab coats. It surprises me someone as idiotic as him even got the job in the first place. Do you believe the next game we get will be a crossover between "Code Vein" and "God Eater" ? It's such a shame it's certainly going to be set after the third game. I would much prefer for it to be set after the second one. I also hope they give us more choices in how we want our character to behave. In my mind, I created a character arc for my protagonist (her emotional and psychological state represented through her clothes) in which she feels it's her responsibility to act like a judge of sorts for the entire species. I narrowly avoided temptation in putting an end to Eva for her powers and Karen's girlfriend for her part in the attempts at cheating the cycle of life and death. I would like to feel more morally ambiguous towards the new set of characters we're supposed to save.
So, it's kinda funny that you mention that, because there's a theory going around from within the league lore community that he's actually a character by the name of Corin Reveck, which would have massive implications for another character in League of Legends, and would also mean that a character that has seemingly existed only in name as an individual in the background to someone else's story (a champion (playable character) that came out way after League's launch) has been themselves a champion staring us right in the face since before League of Legends even came out of beta testing. Oh, and the reason it's funny you mentioned that is because, if he IS Corin Reveck, the William Afton parallel becomes... a tiny bit more creepily accurate, I'll say.
@@Rannulfus Given the current lore, it is a bit different though. I guess it comes close to "To be Beautiful", though the reasons and end result differ completely.
Singed, at least the Arcane version, is intelligent on a level beyond anyone else in the show. Heimerdinger is intelligent, but he’s too complacent. Singed has an ambition that he conceals from everyone but himself. It will be interesting to see what happens in Season 2. Sigh….
Heimerdinger isn't complacent, he's been around for so long, he knows what humans are and aren't capable of. He asks the one question Humans never ask themselves. When we invent, we ask "What can we use this for?" We never ask "What is the cost of it's use?" We don't see the use of something beyond our short lives. Heimerdinger does.
@@pob_42This is not entirely true. He never saw Jayce's potential, but Viktor did. He also can't understand nor accept how humans don't have the same luxury of time like he does and why they force themselves to do certain things because of that.
he perfectly understands, thats why we have a line from heimerdinger that goes something like this: "but how could you know? that is a burden only i carry, TIME..." he is like a stern grandfather figure that knows better then the grandchild, he is not wrong nor right, he surley has more experience but also is stuck in the olden ways...@@dakure907
@@pob_42 i mean heimerdinger is not that old and singed seems to have found a way to stop his aging progress he litteraly didnt age since viktor was a kid perhaps he is himself centuries old
Not yet confirmed, but there is a high chance. There are quite a few hints that foreshadow it being the truth, such as Vander being referred to as a hound and a dog, but some are deeper than just that. Warwick's rework, and the cornucopia of new lore that came with it, came out about two to three years into Arcane's production, around the time the Arcane crew solidly charted out the plot of the first season, and LoL in turn stopped some of the last of their infuriating retcons and plot changes, and instead finally settled on a singular narrative for good. In-game, Warwick utters some pretty keen taunts when interacting with both Vi and Jinx despite his new backstory not containing them anywhere in it. When procced to do so in either one of their presences, he says things like, "The fear in your eyes, I've seen it before," and "Who taught you how to punch?" to Vi (the former possibly in reference to the night everything went to hell, and the latter possibly in reference to how melee fist-fighter Vander inspired Vi's fighting style), and "You were there..." and "Let me forget..." to Jinx (possibly in reference to the night her monkey bomb exploded, sealing his, Mylo, and Claggor's fates). J.B. Blanc voiced Vander in Arcane, while in League, Warick's VA is uncredited, and is almost impossible to compare to many notable VAs who could have voiced him due to the effects put into the voice itself. However, in Arcane, as Vander was in his Shimmer-mutated form, he not only makes growling and roaring noises of eerily similar bestial qualities to Warwick, but as he bellows out "Silco!" to a retreating Silco, his voice noticeably sounds a lot like Warwick. In one of Arcane's final first season episode's final scenes, we see a body hanging above Singed's head as he looks to the locket in his hands. We don't get a definitive view of the body, but as it's hanging in a position similar to LoL artwork depicting Singed's experimentation on the man who would become Warwick, and has a roughly similar (albeit, ill-defined) appearance to Vander, many comparisons have been made. Finally, the teaser they released for Arcane season 2 has LoL Warwick's 'chase' theme playing in the background as it concludes. All this being said, while LoL and Arcane are confirmed to diverge into two separate canons, they are really influencing one another constantly. For all we know, if it is indeed Vander in the Arcane canon, he'll remain possessing his name. Or maybe he won't. We won't know for sure until the next season!
He reminds me of Riku and Diz...Except I still respect and love Singed. He made a vow and went through with it. Unlike Riku, who vowed to redeem himself, but got cold feet because of hearing one or two whispers of Ansem, getting to the point of not taking the sword against the Org., and put all the pressure and guilt on Sora. And unlike DiZ, Singed was in touch with his apprentice(s), understanding the TRUE impact his experiments had. He accepted all choices and understood where they came from.
Speaking of "Code Vein"...a few comments had me regret having saved Eva. Her power seemed to mean the end of the Revenants. And Mido himself said, the Revenants have the power to consume both the world and themselves. It's already bad enough the moral sacrifices they would have to perform for their civilization. But of admiration for her singing, I was compassionate, since it seemed symbolic to me. As in, in the middle of the ruin, there can be survivors filled with beauty. But I still have that tiny doubt of "What if...?".
@@Circurose the normal subtitles didn't show this. The audiosynch on the other side( the thing that was made so blind people can experience the pictures shown rather than just what is happening) called him singed
it's funny how people think it's silco because this part is most likely happening right as jinx shot the rocket did singed run in and was like "mine mine mine mine mine NEW SUBJECT" and booked it out of there with silco XD
So i've thinking... what if silco remained unconcious longer than we think and that blood in the table wasn't from jinx? I mean, as we saw in the season 1 finale, singed had a subject tied up in the ceiling. And jinx didn't seem to have any scars afterwards
Singed in League needs a FULL make-over on his design, kit and dialogue. This guy won't be laughing while gassing people but thats what he does in League.
You aren't in touch with his playerbase. Most of the Singed playerbase loves his kit because it's a very basic kit that revolves around game mechanics rather than himself. The Arcane Singed skin will be the optional VGU you can toggle 3:46 for players, but the quotes are loved by many. A quiet guy with silly lines.
@mantiraptor5208 nigga I main him. Im not saying remove the gas and the fling, in fact Im quite satisfied with the Wild Rift rework. He needs to be more consistent with this character in the show (because he was well written there), the Arcane skin addresses this, but still not enough.
partially, Orianna was intoxicated just like Viktor from inhaling toxins from Zaun's when she was little. Singed was from piltover at the moment and he had access to technology but not hextech as it wasnt invented yet. He had to replace every part of Orianna's body to keep her alive, and her only part that was still biological was her heart. Years later Singed's heart started to deteriorate, and Orianna sacrificed her humanity to save her father, giving her heart to Singed. Now Orianna is just clockwork (she later gets a hold on one of Jayce's crystals and puts it in The Ball which she fabricates herself) Heimerdinger kicked him out for going as far as making her 99% machine instead of letting her go
I would cry if they rework singed , i mean it could be improved and could still feel similar but this is singed , basic asf but you must be crazy as him (not rly mad scientist, but doing crazy strats in league context)to execute him to the full I cant even explain how rewarding it is to make chaos to your laner with 30 paragraphs for abilities with your shitty basic almost 15 yrs old champ , singed for life
Absolutely not, Jeffrey Dahmer killed because the pleasure he got by doing it. Singed is totally detached from reality he thinks on goals, he's the very definition of a mad scientist.
The fucking foreshadowing of "she's dying, I am trying to prevent it".
He is just stating his entire motivation ever, it was hidden in plain sight.
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You wouldn't know all this foreshadowing without a strong clear confirmation by the late episodes of the show affirming it.
Singed was being introduced at that scene, trying to build up our own perception of him.
@@jumper-w124yeah... that's what good foreshadowing is lmfao
What I really like about this version of singed he always has the detached manner. He takes an information he gives advice, but he's never forced anybody to do anything. Even when warning Victor about the consequences, he doesn't disregard Victor's hope merely giving a "perhaps"
His name's "Viktor".
I feel like there's an implied "probably not" behind that perhaps. And you see in the very next scene Jayce berating Viktor for going to the undercity for help, forgetting that Viktor himself is from the undercity. Not very understanding of him
@@jack_themansv4944 and your name's jack instead of jackson guess were all asssholes huh?
@@michaelka3071 What? What do you mean??
It means don't nitpick stuff. Maybe auto correct kept changing the name lmao
"I thought you understood. The mutation must survive." This one moment so perfectly encapsulates what Singed is.
“I understand,now”
When Singed looked over and saw Viktor I can’t help but feel like Singed feared for Viktor’s health here since he was experimenting on Rio for survival
Nice interpretation didn't think of that at all
It is interesting how Singed seems to solely work on Shimmer as medication, as a way to overcome death itself.
Silco uses it as a weapon and Singed probably could not care less about that and only works with him because of the subjects provided.
And looking at Jinx, while her mind obviously took a major hit, her body recovered fully, so he is making progress.
Crazy to think this crazy ass war criminal would freely give medicines and aid to those needing it (albeit to further his goals)
@@dankmeme682 Well, he is not a war criminal at that point in time
@@dankmeme682 well he is just a supplier and a scientist. What they do with his concoctions is of no relevance to him.
@@dankmeme682 How could he be a war criminal when there hasn't yet been a war?
AEHUAHEUHEUHEUHUEHUE.
this is like saying the guy who male drugs is a good guy but the one who sell them is not this is stupidity
Also he worked on all those mutations for silco n willmake chemical bombs that will be used in the war xd
Singed is the truest true neutral I've ever seen in fiction.
How is he anything but neutral evil. He has no morales and will do anything for his goals, not out of malice but because he doesn't care
@@Yatagurusu he helped all sides in War, saved Jinx, saves Vander(in a sense), created shimmer, helped Victor. All he does is create. His inventions are just survival. Missuse isnt on him. He states the dangers and fact, the result is never his concern
@pirateplebxd1440
Not caring about concequences is evil btw. That's what makes someone evil.
Helping every side in a war is also evil.
@@Yatagurusu but war or threat of war is inevideble.
Arranging preperations for your side is always seen as good and enemy side as bad. I would say the production itself is not the evil part, the results and dangers of it are.
I would argue that Singed himself is in a position, where Morals are a previlegue he cant afford.
Moral codes are only for the people that can afford them. People in hunger, without shelter, without social connection will never have a moral code you could agree with.
Of course in your situation it doesnt make sense but i would say that Singed had few coices that would lead him to the survival of his daughter.
His Goal is merely to save his daughter, no matter who wins a war, no matter who confronts him and his goal.
Its like a Jester, no interest in any party winning, just playing his own Game. This is the true Neutral that is possible in this world.
@@Yatagurusu Whether something is evil or not is contingent to who's observing. Consequences by themselves aren't good or evil after all. If we were to follow your own words, consequences that have positive connotations born from morally good actions can still be evil provided the person who acted upon the action did not care about the consequences. That framework doesn't make any sense. If that was the case, then would I be evil if I helped someone stand up even though I did not particularly care about the consequences?
'Love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress... its why I parted ways with Heimerdinger.' - I heard that and was like 'oooo SNAP.'
Just like how Viktor will part with Jace one day
@@luiousy7329 damn
seeing this now hits hard@@luiousy7329
@@luiousy7329 Hmmm quite ambiguous
@@luiousy7329 and now with Arcane S2 Viktor parts with Jayce
Its amazing how they did more with Singed in 7 minutes than most shows do with the MC in a whole season.
Singed was such a great side character in this series. I hope to see more of him and other zaunites like urgot, twitch, zeri, and more
We can leave out Zeri
Urgot might not be in Zaum yet,we dont know if the Swain coup has happend at this time
@@Strix2031 pretty sure Mel's mother implied that the swain takeover already happened
As an Urgot main I'd fucking love to see some Urgot references or appearances, but I'm gonna be happy as long as season 2 is as good as the first season.
Season 2 baby. Gonna be a main character
I've never played League of Legends, so I was unaware of this character until I watched the show. Needless to say, he left a hell of an impression! I actually really dig this show for going out of its way to not have any antagonist be evil for evil's sake, even the mad scientist/doctor character. I hope we see more of him in Season 2.
The sheer number of situations that take place in Runeterra's lore that include Singed is pretty substantial. He's one of those characters that seems to hardly ever be seen (prior to arcane), yet his involvement in events is very common. He's mostly the reason the undercity is the way it is with his creation "Shimmer", he really set in stone Powder's "Jinx" identity, put Viktor onto his radical "glorious evolution" path and even razing Ionia via his poisons used by Noxus.
All with only ~180 seconds of screen time total.
Given his coincidental habit of being the cause of/appearing in tragedies, I'm sure you can look forward to seeing plenty more of him.
@@valdemar8817 and made a certain champion (will be soon in Arcane season 2) to have his bones shattered by itself, only to get healed by itself then break again. Have chemicals pours out of his eyes and mouths, put a large spike on his back the impales himself whenever negative emotions are triggered, cuts off his left arm, have him starve for weeks, then after he supposedly died, Singed throws his "corpse" on top of his failed "experiments".
@@neutralplayeroflol5722 Assuming the theories of him being Corin Reveck are correct, "THAT" champion isn't the ONLY champion he makes, not that he has to be Corin in order to put that on his resume. Having such a heavy influence on Noxus and Ionia, he can probably claim responsibility for a good number of champion backstories.
@@onnizx thats fair enough. Theres a lot of retconnong happening to the lore the last several years, so the possibility is there, but singed already being so heavily involved in so many things, I wouldn't be surprised if riot and the writers decided to limit his importance to what they already have him for sure a part of.
He's the wackiest, goofiest champion in game but in Arcane and the lore he's one of the most messed up, serious and impactful characters
"loneliness is often the byproduct of a gifted mind"
My favourite part was when he ran down piltover bridge with his ult active. The enforcers chased him even though Jayce and Cair started pinging them to get back
My guy proxying before it was cool
Bravo Vince
I like that he’s not just another completely evil mad scientist, sure he lacks general empathy but he’s never done anything to actively harm someone unless it’s in the process of testing something he wants to use to improve lives. He never pressures anyone into anything unless they have no choice (he could very well have just given Viktor the shimmer with no warning of the side effects, but he makes the choice to advise Viktor against it. Also when Deckard looks to him for advice he just gives a slight nod, not reassurance that it won’t kill him, but suggesting he should take it. It would have been easy to just have him encourage anyone interested, but he’s chosen not to) And from what we can tell, he only tests on people and creatures who are already dying, attempting to prevent that and expand the capacity of natural mortality
I love how Singed is kinda the main actor of Zaun and Runeterra :
creates Warwick, the Shimmer and Jinx (kinda)
his daughter is Orianna (could be)
his quimic weapons destroy villages in Ionia by Noxus army (Riven and Yi were affected)
fun fact: Warwick appears at 6:58
He devotes himself to progress, but the only things he creates are horrors
@@calimorale9880 not progress he is trying to prolong his life and cure death. But what will happen after he is immortal idk
In lore he gasses yis village therefore making him train wukong gasses riven where she quits noxus helps kill irelias family and causes karma to awaken Ionia
@@Betroid ok yes but Irelia village was kill by Swain not Singed
In fact if the comic of Darius is canon, the poison destroy the arm of the girlfriend of Darius and this is more longer but you know how ends
I personally think his voice in Arcane is MUCH better than the game voice
And his accent is way better than your typical mad scientist accent
Well you have to remember that those voice lines are like 10 years old XD.
Plus his voice in game is much more based on the old lore (obviously). Rather than the more interesting character he is in the current lore.
Mix mix swirl mix mix
@@Sechwicky Yep,I also like how his Slavic accent is way less stereotypical and region-specific than Viktor`s(What makes it all the more impressive is Brett Tucker, his VA is an Aussie IRL, "Arcane" is one of the few examples of VAs putting on accents that aren`t their real ones that don`t sound stereotypical or forced at all, so unlike the source material it ain`t fuckin` funny!)
i like his game voice. HUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
"Sometimes death is a mercy."
Notice that he can entertain this thought only when keeping the subject alive has no purpose to him. His "pet" was in way more need of that mercy than Jinx, but he would've never even thought of that option for it.
Singed knew for it to work was a surgery and an experiment in one. Utter agony and permanent physical mutation. He said it, but acted regardless. Because death is a mercy only when you can't do anything to help. He can. So he does.
I love the voice
It fits his character and design.
Right!! It's so haunting lmao
His voice in game is a fairly different, but I much prefer this one over the current one that he's had for over a decade now. Hopefully they get the voice actor in Arcane to do any future voiceover updates for the game.
I dig his laugh and personality in game but his voice and presence in Arcane is still some serious ASMR. Feels like I knew someone like that when I was very young.
I grew up with the person that voices Singed, his name is Brett Tucker. His real voice is absolutely nothing like this. It's bizarre.
This guy has all the qualities to be the main antagonist of the entire series, hoping they will pull it as mysterious as he already was in the first season, like a piece that ties all the others togheter, but never truily shows up
He totally has main antagonist energy, I feel like he will be revealed as the big bad at the same time it's revealed that his "weapon" (Warwick) is actually Vander...
In the game's lore he's probably the guy that has done the most evil atrocities.
(As far as regular humans go)
The list includes chemical/nuclear warfare, experimentation on human and child subjects, creation of Chimeras, excessive torture, etc
I don't think he's a good fit for a main antagonist, he's an academic, too far removed from the day to day goings on, same reason Heimerdinger wouldn't make a good protagonist. I don't think Singed would care whether there's a war or not, whether Zaun is free or not, so long as he can continue his work. He has after all sacrificed everything for it.
He's so well suited for this advisor role, and I think he will stay there. Like with Heimerdinger seeing the undercity and hinting at an arc there, I expect we might see something similar for Singed, probably the two coming into (verbal) conflict again, but with him maintaining an advisory role and a monster-maker.
Of all the examples I can think of in fiction, Despicable Me is the first one, Singed would be better in the role of Dr. Nefario, not Gru.
He's too smart for that. Main antagonists die, but the unnamed help rarely shares their fate, especially when he's willing to help anyone
Singed on League: To Shake... Or not to Shake
Singed in arcane:
"I understand this must be painful...I'm afraid it will only get worse."
Meanwhile...Game Singed is a 200 IQ troll champion.
He has some of my favourite lines in all of Arcane and he even has some great lines in season 2
what i like about singed is that the man is shrouded in mystery. he performs almost inhumane experiments for unknown purposes he used to know heimerdinger and apparently lost his daughter a long time ago but none of these are ever given a reason hopefully we get some lore for him in season 2 because so far he's my favourite character
I think his story will be simple, he lost his daughter and now he is searching for a way to extend the life of a dying mortal. It is a 50/50 that he is now just obsessed with life, given he lost his daughter or that his daughter is still alive in some sort of frozen in time situation and he is looking for a way to heal her.
How did they make the funny poison trail meme into the character that directly causes a 3rd of the conflict in this show
5:36
That “I understand”
Hits so much harder now because of Season 2.
I love how most of the scenes that he’s in are like quite
genius
Yeah that's an "lovely" thing I didn't think of. Crazy how in 10 minutes I just found out 2 perspectives I didn't look at the character from. But this was a great call out though
God knows what Singed would have done if he got his hands on the hexcore
He'll save his daughter
He did get his hands on the Hexcore - in the form of Viktor. He ended up saving his daughter as a result.
Singed is always one step ahead of everyone. He has the tendency to say things, but it has a different meaning.
"Feeding Time" refers to the mouse, not the cat.
"She is dying. I'm attempting to prevent that" refers to his daughter, not the mutation.
"Are you prepared to lose her?" He's not refering to Jinx losing her life here, but her mental state.
"Love and Legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress." When Victor reaponds with "Jayce will understand", Singed says "Perhaps". Singed isn't refering to Victor's being able to help Jayce understand, Singed refering to these two sacrificing their love and legacies.
This man is the center of everything. I would argue he technically controlled Silco too. Get the man who funds your experiments addicted to your product. The scariest part is Singed few understands the result of his actions and does it anyway. When Silco says "Real power belongs to those who will do ANYTHING to achieve it" Singed is right there like the show is trying highlight him. He doesn't care about dying if it means achieving immortality.
Everybody is hyped at the possible Warwick connection...but nobody talks about the possible Twitch cameo!
Singed drugs Silco so Silco doesn't have to witness Jinx suffering right?
Yes.
Also likely so he doesn't interfere
Since the process of "healing" is rather grotesque, as we saw; Silco would very much likely intervene to stop Jinx from suffering. Also, having lost a daughter himself, SInged knows how it feels.
1. "This is for your own sanity", so yes
2. He knows Silco is attached and doesn't want him to crack under Jinx's suffering and interfere
Social detachment is a hell of a drug ngl.
Probably favorite character in Arcane
Same
Hes super underrated
the GOAT
Seven minutes of pure sigma champion
Singed as Caitlyn is the most horrifying image in the show.
Everyone else: 😅 😭 😡 😔 😩
Singed: 🗿
Meanwhile Singed in game: "Mix Mix Swirl Mix"
He reminds of Mido from "Code Vein", except he seems more emotionally distant. He doesn't seek to control everybody like Mido does in his plans for progress. Whatever happens during the evolutionary proccess, it happens, as long as it's not stoped. That's why I respect him more than Mido.
Of course I would want to come out on top, but not like a leader. It would limit the potential of evolution.
Another thing is that Singed, while his experiments can be twisted, does not gets any sort of pleasure out of them. He doesn't go out of his way to make people suffer, and if they do, he doesn't feel any positive or negative emotions about it. It's just another part of the process. Mido, meanwhile, while certainly correct about Revenants and humanity needing to evolve to combat the threat of the Aragami, is a sadistic bastard who enjoys the suffering his science inflicts. We see this in Emily and Yakumo's memory echoes, as well as with Cruz. If Mido hadn't done such torturous experiments on her, she never would have frenzied, and the Queen would never have been born.
@@kamikazelemming1552men like him shouldn't be allowed anywhere near lab coats. It surprises me someone as idiotic as him even got the job in the first place.
Do you believe the next game we get will be a crossover between "Code Vein" and "God Eater" ? It's such a shame it's certainly going to be set after the third game. I would much prefer for it to be set after the second one.
I also hope they give us more choices in how we want our character to behave. In my mind, I created a character arc for my protagonist (her emotional and psychological state represented through her clothes) in which she feels it's her responsibility to act like a judge of sorts for the entire species. I narrowly avoided temptation in putting an end to Eva for her powers and Karen's girlfriend for her part in the attempts at cheating the cycle of life and death. I would like to feel more morally ambiguous towards the new set of characters we're supposed to save.
@@kamikazelemming1552by the way, would Jacqueline Natla from "Tomb raider" be more of a Mido or a Singed ?
da mutation MASt Survaiv
0:00 rat eats cat scene
1:29 "you built this?"
I love Singed
I never player league of legends but i love his character, he remind me of William Afton
So, it's kinda funny that you mention that, because there's a theory going around from within the league lore community that he's actually a character by the name of Corin Reveck, which would have massive implications for another character in League of Legends, and would also mean that a character that has seemingly existed only in name as an individual in the background to someone else's story (a champion (playable character) that came out way after League's launch) has been themselves a champion staring us right in the face since before League of Legends even came out of beta testing.
Oh, and the reason it's funny you mentioned that is because, if he IS Corin Reveck, the William Afton parallel becomes... a tiny bit more creepily accurate, I'll say.
@@Rannulfus Given the current lore, it is a bit different though.
I guess it comes close to "To be Beautiful", though the reasons and end result differ completely.
the actuall lore of the game and of this show differ in details.
i love lean
hes like william afton but 100000000000000000000000% worse like he makes the greatest crimes ever look like a kindergarten fight
He cant keep getting away with it!
I love singed so much he is so honorable and royal
Singed, at least the Arcane version, is intelligent on a level beyond anyone else in the show.
Heimerdinger is intelligent, but he’s too complacent. Singed has an ambition that he conceals from everyone but himself. It will be interesting to see what happens in Season 2.
Sigh….
Heimerdinger isn't complacent, he's been around for so long, he knows what humans are and aren't capable of. He asks the one question Humans never ask themselves. When we invent, we ask "What can we use this for?" We never ask "What is the cost of it's use?" We don't see the use of something beyond our short lives. Heimerdinger does.
@pob_42 both have it's flaws. Yordle lifespan is way longer than humans thus he can think like that.
@@pob_42This is not entirely true. He never saw Jayce's potential, but Viktor did. He also can't understand nor accept how humans don't have the same luxury of time like he does and why they force themselves to do certain things because of that.
he perfectly understands, thats why we have a line from heimerdinger that goes something like this: "but how could you know? that is a burden only i carry, TIME..."
he is like a stern grandfather figure that knows better then the grandchild, he is not wrong nor right, he surley has more experience but also is stuck in the olden ways...@@dakure907
@@pob_42 i mean heimerdinger is not that old and singed seems to have found a way to stop his aging progress he litteraly didnt age since viktor was a kid perhaps he is himself centuries old
Most underrated character in Arcane.
Thing with claws hanging from the ceiling at the end, possibly Vander turned into Warwick?
Not yet confirmed, but there is a high chance. There are quite a few hints that foreshadow it being the truth, such as Vander being referred to as a hound and a dog, but some are deeper than just that.
Warwick's rework, and the cornucopia of new lore that came with it, came out about two to three years into Arcane's production, around the time the Arcane crew solidly charted out the plot of the first season, and LoL in turn stopped some of the last of their infuriating retcons and plot changes, and instead finally settled on a singular narrative for good.
In-game, Warwick utters some pretty keen taunts when interacting with both Vi and Jinx despite his new backstory not containing them anywhere in it. When procced to do so in either one of their presences, he says things like, "The fear in your eyes, I've seen it before," and "Who taught you how to punch?" to Vi (the former possibly in reference to the night everything went to hell, and the latter possibly in reference to how melee fist-fighter Vander inspired Vi's fighting style), and "You were there..." and "Let me forget..." to Jinx (possibly in reference to the night her monkey bomb exploded, sealing his, Mylo, and Claggor's fates).
J.B. Blanc voiced Vander in Arcane, while in League, Warick's VA is uncredited, and is almost impossible to compare to many notable VAs who could have voiced him due to the effects put into the voice itself. However, in Arcane, as Vander was in his Shimmer-mutated form, he not only makes growling and roaring noises of eerily similar bestial qualities to Warwick, but as he bellows out "Silco!" to a retreating Silco, his voice noticeably sounds a lot like Warwick.
In one of Arcane's final first season episode's final scenes, we see a body hanging above Singed's head as he looks to the locket in his hands. We don't get a definitive view of the body, but as it's hanging in a position similar to LoL artwork depicting Singed's experimentation on the man who would become Warwick, and has a roughly similar (albeit, ill-defined) appearance to Vander, many comparisons have been made.
Finally, the teaser they released for Arcane season 2 has LoL Warwick's 'chase' theme playing in the background as it concludes.
All this being said, while LoL and Arcane are confirmed to diverge into two separate canons, they are really influencing one another constantly. For all we know, if it is indeed Vander in the Arcane canon, he'll remain possessing his name. Or maybe he won't. We won't know for sure until the next season!
@@Super-Skrull brooo, love your comment, totally missed how Vander sounds like Warwick after shimmer
@@Super-Skrull it's all but confirmed
Yep
JAYCE WILL UNDERSTAND !!!!! T.T
Ohh buddy.. I have bad news for ya..
I love the way he says 'very well'
I love Brett Tucker so much
He reminds me of Riku and Diz...Except I still respect and love Singed. He made a vow and went through with it.
Unlike Riku, who vowed to redeem himself, but got cold feet because of hearing one or two whispers of Ansem, getting to the point of not taking the sword against the Org., and put all the pressure and guilt on Sora.
And unlike DiZ, Singed was in touch with his apprentice(s), understanding the TRUE impact his experiments had. He accepted all choices and understood where they came from.
Speaking of "Code Vein"...a few comments had me regret having saved Eva. Her power seemed to mean the end of the Revenants. And Mido himself said, the Revenants have the power to consume both the world and themselves. It's already bad enough the moral sacrifices they would have to perform for their civilization. But of admiration for her singing, I was compassionate, since it seemed symbolic to me. As in, in the middle of the ruin, there can be survivors filled with beauty.
But I still have that tiny doubt of "What if...?".
Imagine if it turns out that mutated thing used to be his daughter.
i watched the season 2 leaked, and that’s not her daughter
Orianna is his daughter.
Doubt she will be in the show
Shou tucker
@AMRC116 aaand she is.
Imagine going through these experiments for YEARS with no respite. That is what Vander went through. Damn.
Did anyone else try to convince themselves that Silco's assistant somehow wasn't Singed?
Subtitle Enjoyer: No
@@Circurose the normal subtitles didn't show this. The audiosynch on the other side( the thing that was made so blind people can experience the pictures shown rather than just what is happening) called him singed
I immediately thought he was Singed, since he resembles that guy.
OMG 6.58!
Is that Vander hanging up as one of singed's experiments slightly off screen?
"how about a drink?"
"Shaken, not stirred."
@Elkington7 the perfect crossover 😃🔥
What is the #1 rule of League that somehow, absolutely everyone knows ?
Don't know and don't care
Never play Yasuo in SoloQ
DON'T CHASE SINGED
If you wanna have fun deinstall the game
Fun is illegal.
RELEASE THE WARWICK!!
HE'S ALMOST HERE!!!
6:58 this is Vander
This is a hint that Vander will be turned into Warwick season 2.
it's funny how people think it's silco because this part is most likely happening right as jinx shot the rocket did singed run in and was like "mine mine mine mine mine NEW SUBJECT" and booked it out of there with silco XD
@@KingSpades that would’ve been a funny scene ngl
Stop speculating.
So i've thinking... what if silco remained unconcious longer than we think and that blood in the table wasn't from jinx? I mean, as we saw in the season 1 finale, singed had a subject tied up in the ceiling. And jinx didn't seem to have any scars afterwards
god i wish singed would get an upgraded look in game
MIX MIX SWIRL MIX
what did you use to remove all the music?
What episode is the scene where Viktor says everything rots
If you mean the line "The subjects whither and rot." then that scene is from the episode "The Boy Savior".
To shake, or not to shake
Urgot, Warwick is product by Singed?
After watching Season 2, I wonder…was Rio a precursor to Warwick? 👀👀👀
I really hope they make a TRPG or CRPG out of arcane or LoL.
Played LOL a while back.
Singed was my main. Glad he’s having some screen time (haven’t watched the show)
Watch it, it's not half bad
Singed in League needs a FULL make-over on his design, kit and dialogue. This guy won't be laughing while gassing people but thats what he does in League.
You aren't in touch with his playerbase. Most of the Singed playerbase loves his kit because it's a very basic kit that revolves around game mechanics rather than himself.
The Arcane Singed skin will be the optional VGU you can toggle 3:46 for players, but the quotes are loved by many. A quiet guy with silly lines.
@mantiraptor5208 nigga I main him. Im not saying remove the gas and the fling, in fact Im quite satisfied with the Wild Rift rework. He needs to be more consistent with this character in the show (because he was well written there), the Arcane skin addresses this, but still not enough.
did singed experiment with his daughter to create oriana? is that why he was kick out by heimerdinger?
partially, Orianna was intoxicated just like Viktor from inhaling toxins from Zaun's when she was little. Singed was from piltover at the moment and he had access to technology but not hextech as it wasnt invented yet. He had to replace every part of Orianna's body to keep her alive, and her only part that was still biological was her heart. Years later Singed's heart started to deteriorate, and Orianna sacrificed her humanity to save her father, giving her heart to Singed. Now Orianna is just clockwork (she later gets a hold on one of Jayce's crystals and puts it in The Ball which she fabricates herself)
Heimerdinger kicked him out for going as far as making her 99% machine instead of letting her go
@@AllenC1xthat story...That's a whole messed up take on Mr.Freeze's story.
El siiiiinsh weeeee
Singed seems neither good nor bad
Rio = Ori
singed
HOW ABOUT A DRINK
we need a singed rework on LOL
hell nah, singed main here. nothings more fun then sprinting through a 5 man team, flipping the adc, then running out at 1000ms
@@CowboyGaming99 just visually then
@@focuslegendlight1025 I can agree to that
NEVER. He was the first champion ever designed. It's tradition.
I would cry if they rework singed , i mean it could be improved and could still feel similar but this is singed , basic asf but you must be crazy as him (not rly mad scientist, but doing crazy strats in league context)to execute him to the full
I cant even explain how rewarding it is to make chaos to your laner with 30 paragraphs for abilities with your shitty basic almost 15 yrs old champ , singed for life
how'd that taste
2:30 2:57
His assistant is supposed to be Warwick, not Viktor.
Warwick`s his favorite test subject.
Bro that was singeds original story from when he first came out. They reconned that story fucking years ago
hear me out now
They should have remade Singed instead of Viktor
sinmged
Fantasy version of Jeffrey Dahmer
Absolutely not, Jeffrey Dahmer killed because the pleasure he got by doing it. Singed is totally detached from reality he thinks on goals, he's the very definition of a mad scientist.
More like a mad doctor from history, like Mengele.