So originally I was just always putting Kardia on the tank, but I've found the chip healing of Kardia to not really be enough, so I've begun to start using Kardia as a 'top off' mechanic much the same way that an Astrologian throws around card buffs. Normally I'll have Kardia up on the tank, but say a DPS takes some dmg, instead of stopping my attacks to throw a big heal on them, I'll transfer Kardis to them and continue attacking. After a few attacks, they've been 'topped off' and I'll then transfer the Kardia back to the tank. This also allows me to reserve my Addersgall stacks for bigger heals on the tanks.
yeah I haven't done a lot of sage but when playing I was really underwhelmed with how kardia keeps up with the sort of damage MTs take and I think being a bit more active with it, passing it around others to top them up is a better use.
I usually use the barriers as a top off mechanic. It keeps them alive until I end up using one of the dozens of AOE heals available. But I'll definitely try this out. The problem I see is that the spammable addersgall heal is also pretty weak, so it could be too much trouble moving Kardia around for little payback
@@Dream146 I recently hit lvl 87 on my Sage so I've now unlocked the healing/shielding buff and I would say that the single and multi-target shielding if much more robust. I've been finding that keeping the Eukrasia Diagnosis (single shield) up on tank constantly makes a bigger difference.
sage is great when everything is predictable. When random people start eating mechanics in alliance raid your healing output is just not enough to pull people through wipefeast. Eos healing the lowest health target turns out to matter a lot in those instances
I agree but also disagree. Unpredictable players actions are always abundant so you need to always assume someone will make a whoops. When I whm i still had issues with a blm who ate mechanics for breakfast or a drg stuck in animation. If there was an some wide area or incoming mech i always prepped.
I’m a Tank. I have nothing to add, except reading the feedback gives me some perspective on how the healers perform in various situations. Unpredictable ones at that.
Been loving sage, but I was having some issues keeping my tank alive in dungeons and could NOT tell what I was missing. This ended up really helping! Thank you so much!
@@anttheknee1372 Consistently casting eukrasian diagnosis on the tank and using OGCD's when available is what I've been doing. Once the mob dies down a bit, I start using the kardia trickle heal a little more. This is working for me, but just barely enough to get by.
Problem with sage is that its direct heals are limited to its charge system. If your tank has just done one big pull, chances are you won’t have many (or any) charges left for a second big pull…essentially leaving you to spam weak GCD heals.
I wasn't hyped for sage at all, and I'm actually a healer main, but playing it I'm definitely hooked! I do miss two things, a straight forward regen for that one DPS that takes damage on mechanics, and a good single target panic button like essential dignity or benediction. You do get cool combinations later on, but I miss it for synced lower level content
it feels like sage has ONLY aoe heals. tons and tons and tons of aoe heals, that all dont run on the gcds. but all of them are kinda mediocre and you need to use 3-4 to top up the group, what makes you use all of your blue stacks. the entire do dmg to heal mechanic is trash imo, since the single target heals are so bad, you constantly need to either spam your one single target heal, or your aoe heals and you dont have time to really do any dmg inbetween. help is welcome
@@AssoSiaa yeah, I'm playing it pretty similar to AST (I've never played SCH so I don't know if it's similar). Spending all AOE instant cast heals in pulls to keep the tank healthy avoiding to use too many gcds or spamming barriers. It definitely takes up all your kit to be able to spam damage spells. Haima is definitely your best friend, I just wish the cooldown was shorter, even if the effect suffered a bit to balance it out.
@@Dream146 I haven't seen too many people talking about moving Kardia around but it could be a possibility. Right now I just end up throwing an instant shield and most of the time my AOE healing spells take care of the health missing in the background
@@Dream146 it barely heals at all, if anyone loses 90% HP at once, there's no way to heal it up quickly. And if someone loses a lot of HP a few times back to back, this person will most likely die.
Thank you so much for this video. I want have Sage as a main healer class but didn't know how to play it. Read over skills and still not much clicked. I appreciate how straightforward and simple it is to learn thanks to how you explain how/when to use skills. Other videos on this same subject prattled on too much or barely gave info or both.
Pepsis is a recovery tool, and used reactively. You use it to bring peeps back up quickly. Also very useful for 'heal to full' Doom mechanics including DRK's Walking Dead. It's reverse Emergency Tactics, and you want to throw up your shields first, and then use Pepsis. So GCD>>oGCD instead of oGCD>>GCD
People call it a reverse emergency tactics, but it's nothing of the sort. It's a flat heal. Emergency tactics literally turns the shield itself into the heal, which means that it also gains the crit bonus (which can also be forced), making it an insanely potent heal in a pinch. It's also AoE, which means it robs all players of their barrier when you might only want to use it to top up the tank. If you're using it to top up a player before a big AoE, for example, you might want to keep shields on your other team mates, but just remove the one on the tank and replace it. Easily done on Scholar, but much harder on Sage. Compare that to Scholar's Succor followed by Emergency Tactics + Succor. Try doing something similar on sage. You literally cannot.
I did myself a favour and levelled AST for the last months of Shadowbringers to prepare myself for SGE. I learned a lot about healing and I think it helped a lot
Yeah, avoided healing like the plague in FFXIV because the idea kind of scared me, but then I picked up Astro over the summer and I was loving it. It meant I didn't have to build the instincts and habits necessary to heal when I got my hands on Sage on Friday
this video is so useful. Since I was used to scholar who used succor, I thought the group shield was just as useful as the single shield, but I wondered why I rarely ever produced any adderstings. Now I know :)
I mained SCH as my healer since ARR so i when i got my hands on SGE it felt so comfortable off rip. I still think barrier healers need better heal potencies as to alleviate the panic of a tank dropping below 30% Edit: this WAS 2 days ago, now all my brain is filled with is SGE techs. I was but a learner now i am the gundam
@@Balloonbot after playing a good long dungeon as SGE, I feel this is true too. Your basic 3 Eukrasia-able abilities arent that strong in terms of power-healing(with or without the Eukrasia mode), but you've a good amount of resource/CD powerheals that usually are ready by the next time you a raid-wide/tankbuster comes along. I'm considering re-organizing the kit by *what they do*(aoe heal, ST damage, etc.) rather than my normal method of *what they require*(MP, 120s CD, job resource) so I can just pop whichever one of my big STs, or my big AOEs happen to be available.
@@joshy541 Eukrasian with Soteria is OP for Kardian heals. Or Zoe with Ixochole or Druchole is OP as well. These combos is not as strong as WHM but I wanted to show that it is possible to straight heal (no barrier heals) as a Sage. But Sage is more of a barrier healer (honestly seems more like a vampire healer [heal by doing damage]) but with the kit the Sage has, seems more like an Astro back in 5.0 then a SCH.
The 10% damage reduction ability gets a health Regen later on, so what I like to do is to have at least 1 health Regen ability en at all times alongside my shields
I found a pretty solid combo in eukrasia -> diagnosis + Dirac hole for an “oh shit” tank moment. Usually heals about 40% and gives a barrier to further stabilize and reduces the damage coming in by 10%. Alternatively for AoE since keracholes HoT doesn’t tick immediately you can usually just eukrasia prognosis kerachole to get the 10% damage reduction and shield and not lose a healing tick if you time it as the enemy cast is finishing.
@@Iymarra This is super counterintuitive. It should heal. In fact, imo they should remove the "this ability damages and does a 130 potency heal to the kardia target" and just make a trait where all damage done by SGE heals for a percentage to the kardia target. Cleaner and clearer.
@@rodrigoordonez2295 the potency goes to 170 with a trait. And to let Kardia tick with the dot would be WAY too strong. It practically doubles the effect of Kardia and the SCH would be crap against that.
I found this video insanely helpful. I appreciate the way you group your explanations as well as include the situational logic in which skills should be used. Really helps decode when you’re drinking from the Sage firehose
Having leveled sage to 90, don't be afraid to use those aoe abilities for back up. Abilities like holos give damage reduction which can make it that much easier to keep a tank alive during a big pull, even if no one else is hurt
This is one of the best (if not the best) sage guides I've encountered. I love that this job is so technical. Thanks to your guide, I realized that Krasis increases healing received and not healing done. Thank you so much for making this! I'd add that if overhealing can be avoided, Pepsis is almost always worth casting on Eukrasian Prognoses. And Pepsis doesn't care about how much the shield remains when it is used, so Pepsis is really nice when shields are partially eaten by damage, though this situation is quite rare, but does happen. I personally switch my Kardia around fairly frequently, especially in boss fights. It has just a 5-second recast. I would also point out that if the sage is confident that the tank will survive over the next few global recasts and at least two mobs can be hit, then two Dyskrasias are better damage, require less global-recast commitment (Eukrasia isn't affect by spell speed), and cost less MP than a Eukrasian Diagnosis plus Toxikon (though the value of healing someone shouldn't be completely overlooked). I feel it's like SCH's Adloquium in that Eukrasian Diagnosis is one of the least efficient ways to heal a target, and an ability should generally be preferred. For those just starting with a barrier healer, erring on the side of casting too many Eukrasian Diagnoses is likely the way to go, the cast few of them as they get more experience. However, if the sage expects that the next pull will have about twice as many mobs as the current pull, stacking up on Addersting is quite can be a damage increase, though not by much. Also, I've found that Toxikon is often easier to cast as the party moves. And because Toxikon II does just as much damage as Dosis III on single targets, having an Addersting available allows the sage to avoid losing damage from movement. Regardless, there are lots of ways to get the job done.
This will be my first healer and you made it clear and easy to understand so now I feel a little bit more confident to try and learn the role, thanks for the great work
As a PLD main, when I get a sage on a dungeon run, I've been pulling less just to let them get used to it. It's gotten a little scary when I pull a big group and I find my health dropping to less than 1k, good thing Hallowed Ground is there for the clutch.
I did the same. I just tanked Tower of Zot with a Sage. It was the first time I'd had to use Hallowed Ground on a trash pull in a long time. But I also think on my end I need to adjust how I'm using Holy Circle/Spirit now that they restore HP. I usually Req > Holy it as an opener, but maybe I'm wasting the HP restore if I use it when I'm already close to full HP. I need to figure that out.
To be honest, it’s just a smart and respectful thing to do when you know a vital player in party is new to a new job or role in taking it normal or slower. I say that as a PLD Tank myself. There is just no need to rush when others in group are just not as experienced in their role. In group dynamics, players need time to figure things out and even when it goes wrong as much as when it goes right. I remember when I had my sprout 🌱 status, still learning to dungeon and green at FF14. But I’m glad that the party groups gave me space to take things slower learning. It never ends, learning. But with any new job/class just smart and good to give room for players to make mistakes while learning to better play their new jobs.
My first time healing as sage, the tank pulled end to end. It was also my first time healing in ffxiv, and on a controller no less. I'm a monster though, so I handled it, lol. That being said, initially I had to cycle through my big cooldowns the entire time and sometimes things got dicey. A day of getting used to it now, and I don't use my big cds to heal anymore. If you use the low cd mitigation and keep your shields refreshed instantly after they break, it makes it look like the dungeon doesn't do any damage. Now the only thing I'm afraid of is falling out of practice of using my big cds. I've been using them casually to mitigate this.
You should be using hallowed ground on trash pulls. What are you saving it for? I find it annoying I go an entire dungeon and PLD never uses hallowed, such a waste of not being used.
This video helped tremendously going from Ast to Sge was a huge wall for me as i was playing them the same instead of preventing the damage beforehand thank you
Brilliant breakdown of the Job. I am super keen to get the expansion just to play this job and your video was clear enough for me to know that it's defs worth the $30
Right off the bat I would suggest that Kardia is an incredibly important part of the Sage healing kit. It's a continuous stream of passive healing that you get for doing your normal damage output expected of healers in FFXIV. It is about as important to Sages as Regen is to a White Mage or the faerie is to a Scholar.
Two things I'd like... the dot to heal per tick and (Pan)Haima to have a one minute cooldown. Sage feels great for the most part, right until stuff goes sideways... It can be a real mission to get things back undercontrol. Perhaps I am playing it wrong or just too used to White Mage, but I'm basically GCD locked it seems. Like half the time I'm going Shield -> Toxicon repeat... toss out the Dot, Taurochole, or w/e when needed, but it feels really uphill. When Euk Diag crits its such a vastly more potent shield, and good feels, and without it it just doesn't seem to have the output like White Mage.
great video, I hope more people who want to play sages find, see and watch it. I have had more wipes in ally raids and dungeons in these last 2-3 days than in the last 3+ months.
As a tank main this video helps with letting me know what a SGE is casting on me. And as someone who pockets healer this helps me better understand SGE
being VERY new to FFXIV but coming from WOW this job feels very much like a Disc Priest , place the hot ( Kardia )on the tank then dps to heal . then just rotating your dots and shields to heal the grp now im sure im missing some things but seems pretty straight forward and not overly complex to play
I love the sage but I will say, keeping a tank topped off on health is a bit more difficult with this class. Healing in general is just odd on this class. Even so... I love the class & most likely determined to make it my main. Coming from a WHM main.
Fantastic crash course guide! I appreciate the game giving me new jobs that I don't have to level, but having a mess of 18+ new buttons each with their special interactions is daunting.
other use for pepsis : if the shields work like the scholar one, the duration of shields will not be refreshed when casting shields again, so you can use pepsis to remove the shield before applying a new one
Imma be honest, Sage really makes me appreciate Scholar. I was really hoping this would be my new healer since I like Shields and damage mitigation but dont like pet classes, and I cant really say I've been enjoying it. This job is even less forgiving then Scholar which says alot and I say this as someone who feels as though they've mastered Scholar
As a Gunbreaker main, I often check with my Healer on how much should I pull. But with Sage I often pull less, since the ones I played with so far can't keep my health up on big pulls. But good ol White Mages keep me healthy and do some good chip damage on bosses, I am learning some Dps classes currently but I might try healing since I dropped it during Stormblood. Also no matter what don't feel discouraged if you fail, I still occasionally get hit by a weakness stack once or twice even in dungeons I run plenty of times in roulettes. So keep at it and show off your A+ healing game.
The silly name of the Sage weapon is "Noulith", basically Nu Gundam funnels. Thanks for the video, helped me sort out how to use the actions properly! :D
Sage needs potency increases for sure. The 130 potency heal is laughably bad. As a backup healer its fine in raids, but as a main healer, its really bad. And the Eukrasian Diagnosis is Stone Skin all over again. SE got rid of Stone Skin and this needs to go too. Sage needs a 700 potency GCD heal period.
Is sage good for a first time healer? Is healing viable on console with controller and crossbars in general? BTW, I was thinking I'd get 7 days free bc of the expansion login issues, and I don't. But I don't care about that. Is there an official social media that yoshi-p sees. I can't believe he was moved to tears over the end walker delays, and I just want to tell him thank you personally as someone who's played, albeit on and off, since 1.0 released. We understand yoshi, it's OK, we get that launches can be rough, and we love you. Thank you for what you've contributed to the FF community 🙏🏿 ❤️
Healing on controller is no problem but sage is probably not the best healer for a first time healer however don't be afraid to try the job they also have test dummies lying about in the world to try skills out on
@@NeocrimsonX thanks. Been away for a year but its that time again. The job changes and more story content always bring me back. Plus I think I'm still in 5.3 so I've got a ways before I'm waiting for the next patch and bored again 😀
@@cliftonjackson441 Controller gets "soft-targeting" which is great for healers. Basically when you use your dpad to target other enemies/teammates, they will be "soft-targeted". Your next action will go on the soft-target, and then you'll be back to your original hard-target that you were on a second ago. If you press A(or × for PS players) before casting any spell, the soft-target will become your hard target. This means that you don't have to re-target the boss if all you want to do is pop a single heal on the tank. It'll re-target for you.
Sage is pretty cool, and just a better SCH IMO. I never really liked SCH but having a fun time with Sage so far. One thing that sucks is that Sage is pretty different from other Healers, and playing with a controller is a bit different because I can't just copy my bars from AST/WHM and have them set up the same way. I'm going to take your advice at the end and make Eukrasia my primary button instead of what is usually my DPS spam. It's funny because I've considered Sage as a DPS/Healer but my hotbar will be set-up in an opposite way from AST/WHM. That probably only makes sense to me, but it's what I've noticed. Also, in my brief time with Sage it seems like (like some of the other commenters have mentioned) that it's a bit tough when AoEs hit, you have to really plan ahead for those. When things go bad, there seems to be less mitigation; you're not limited by mana but Addersgall which I guess is kinda like Scholar, but perhaps it will just take time to learn.
Sage is the first healing class that looks interesting to me. It is insanely intimidating and I am not sure if this is for healers in general or just that Sage is more difficult. I started in lower level dungeons doing squadron command missions. Then I got through the first Sage quest, which took me a while to adapt and get down. It is starting to feel better, but I think I need to get a group together for PotD to get it down at a more reasonable rate.
I felt the same way and i've played astro to 80 before this class came out. This class is likely the hardest healer to learn for the simple fact that you have to mainly prevent dmg with barriers first and foremost. Really spam those barriers. Then manage your oGCDs well. There's so many options to choose so it takes practice to know what's the best option for a situation.
I’m a PLD Tank and even though I been playing months, I still consider myself a freshman at FF14. I had16 years of WoW as PLD tank too. I watch this not to play a Sage but to have some understanding of my healer capability. Honestly no idea what most healers do or how they keep me alive. I’ve yet to dungeon with a Sage also. However, I don’t ever check on my healer, unless for some reason I’m doing floor inspections. But learning what some healer spells are and AoE heals helps to know where the ER Clinic is on the field like the Blue Dome. Often the party healer is set to my Focus, sometimes Melee for focus defensive cast to target. However a Sage also trickle healing me, well that should have no issue quickly triggering my Devine Veil when I cast it to set up a party shield for AoE damage. Sometimes I see boss casting something seemingly AoE and I cast Devine Veil before boss cast is off and trigger it myself just to make sure. That can be a bad habit to seemingly waste a utility for party protection while maybe needing to cast a self defensive. Still, knowing how my healers function is in my best interest as a Tank in being more effective as well synergy.
Prognosis and Diagnosis (respectively alone without Eukrasia or Zoe) is useless. Best way to emergency heal (if you don’t have Addersgal) is by: • Soteria then Eukrasian Diagnosis. After casting that you should have an Addersgall (should be getting an Addersgall every 20s) or: • Panhaima, Eukrasian Prog, Zoe, Pepsis. *(Pneuma over Pepsis if you’re 90)*
Slight bit of clarification on what you said about the shielding spells. AoE gives a 320% shield based off a 100 potency heal while the ST gives a 180% shield based off a 300 potency heal. Say you do one-to-one heal to potency. AoE heals for 100 points and gives a 320 point shield to everyone. ST heals for 300 and gives a 540 point shield to one. Not to say the AoE isn't efficient, but like all spells, the ST versions are individually better. Also you get an Addersting when the shield /breaks/ by damage, not if it just times out. A minor point that you covered in the dungeon footage but not in the review. I am enjoying Sage a lot, very similar to Scholar which I've generally mained until now. A bit less involved on the mobs then SCH was with more healing options for the party. Though I have noted a much greater tendency to get agro off tanks even through their stance.
I have a "Diagnosis" everytime i try to play this game with a controller(im on ps5), against PC clickers that target anything as fast as Usain Bolt runs against i guy stuck in a wheelchair.
I really wish they’d done more to make kardia a core element of the kit. Right now it’s a set and forget source of incremental healing. Pretty disappointing compared to how sophisticated a damage to heal kit could be.
As an ilvl 630 healer main who has all four healers @ lvl 90....I don't know how tf y'all play Sage and like it. :/ Its healing abilities are subpar, its shielding abilities shield for far less than Scholar, it has little raid utility, and it has far less margin for error. But perhaps that's what y'all like about it? I can tell you right now that AST's and SCH's healing and shielding are so powerful that it may make them feel slow and boring to play. You don't necessarily need to be constantly mashing healing or mitigation buttons, which means you can focus on dpsing. SGE on the other hand practically requires rapid non-stop button pressing and dpsing just to keep your party members up and bearly alive. But that doesn't mean that that it's balanced or "good." It just means you're having to do significantly more work just to break even compared to the other healers. Sage is THE reactive healer. All of it's abilities are geared toward quick on-the-fly decision-making. Also, ironically, the less shielding and healing you have to do means the more time you can spend dpsing. Unfortunately, Sage spends more time healing and shielding than dpsing than the other healers. Sure, almost all of Sage's abilities are instant cast, but that also doesn't make it a good thing. If you like that sort of thing, then more power to you. If Sage is your aesthetic, then right on! Play and do what you love. But Sage is absolutely not for me. I consider it the worst of the healers presently. My ranking would be: AST > SCH > WHM > SGE.
Sage is great but one specific instance i consistently fail in is the big pull right before the first boss of Holminster Switch. I regularly wipe the group there. There have definitely been occasions where the tank has failed to use their invuln, but i feel like i should be able to handle it regardless of that. I start with physys and kerachole and haima, and then zoe taurochole, then go back to kerachole after that but even then i still can not keep up with that much damage. I have done a lot of searching and even though that pull is notorious for being extremely difficult i have not found any forums about it or guides on youtube talking about it. Surely i can't be the only sage that struggles with this.
The healing from Kardion isn't really big enough to be able to say "You'd rather be doing damage and relying on Kardion." That won't fly in normal fights and doesn't really even keep up with auto attacks from enemy mobs. You're right that you should try to use oGCD heals as much as possible, though. Keep Eukrasian Diagnosis up as MUCH as possible, because when that shield is fully absorbed you gain Addersting.
It feels totally different then whm my main right now. I came back to the game after 6 months and am super rusty leveling a few classes. I don't fully understand the abilities yet with sage and gunbreaker especially.
Sage has honestly been a blast to figure out. It is pretty mana efficient (only time i ran out was when i stopped paying attention XD). I need to be better at spending my Addersgal when its full, so just pop a random one whenever. Kardia, depending on party and situation, I've decided to put on the other Healer as priority, so just in case, they are always getting healed in emergency, and can focus on healing others for the most part. When it comes to AOE moments, I've sorta had this priority I've been practicing. Tried to do it so I'm not overusing or underusing Adder in case of emergency, and some ablities will be available if needed: 1. E. Prog & Kerachole > AOE hits > E.Prog & Pepsis 2. E.Prog > AOE hits > E. Prog & Ixochole 3. The Oh sh*t (80 below): E.Prog & Kerachole > AOE hits > ZoE & Physis 2 > E.Prog & Ixochole & Helios > Pepsis (if needed for top off)
The main problem with healers is when a tank pulls a lot of the time they won't use any of their cds. In turn they blame it on the healer when they can do nothing but try to keep them alive. I used to hate healing until I played sage. Out of all the dungeons and trials I have had only 2 complaints and those were the ones that doesn't use cds. I main all tanks and I'm constantly using cds on w2w pulls. Healer is just a class where you have to be ready for negative feedback even if you are playing the job well.
Oh, Man, GREAT video and very helpful :) I'm loving the Sage. I have a lvl 80 WHM as well, but this just feels more powerful, more in your face,.... dare I say, "Vengeful" for all those you loved and couldn't save? It's the "Oh, hell no-- I'm not taking your shit anymore!" job for healing. LOL! I love it has an aggressive, smooth and fast playstyle. I told a friend that WHM plays like a Healer with some DPS abilities, but Sage feels like a DPS with a ton of Healing abilities-- directly and indirectly.
on the part where Zoe is described, it is worth noting that Eurkrasia is also a Spell so, if you use Zoe then Eukrasia...it will use your Zoe buff. You will need to use Eukrasia first, then case Zoe, then use the buff for a heal spell
That is not correct. Eukrasia is a spell that "augments certain abilities" which is not a healing spell, means Eukrasia doesn't heal. It won't consume the Zoe buff. You can use Zoe then Eukrasia. Zoe: "Increases healing magic potency of your next healing spell by 50%."
Not enough people are playing SGE and keeping shields up. SGE excels at preventing or mitigating damage, not huge direct heals. If you want big direct heals, play WHM. A good SGE is my favorite dungeon tank, but a bad SGE can make tanking really rough.
Thank you for explaining slowly and more indepth that an idiot like me can understand.... this class was starting to make me hate it coz a. the names were confusing me ,B, i couldnt make head nore tail of them , C, having to press eukrasia b4 any spells to make the spells proc was cheesing me off.. and i wanted to delete the class... now i know there are a lot of videos on line on how to play this class but either i cant understand the peoples accents, or they talk way to fast, and show what they are doing way to fast and i couldnot keep up... so thank you
PSA: Toxicon 1 deals less single target damage than Dosis 2. Against single enemies only use Toxicon 1 if you need to keep DPS up during movement. Toxicon 2 however deals more damage than Dosis 3, so if you are about to overcap on Addersting stacks try to use some up if you can afford to. Edit: Toxicon 2 deals identical damage to Dosis 3. I was thinking of Dosis 2
It may because you don't have all the skills but ZOE should be used on pneuma for a 900 potency heal. Pneuma is your lvl90 ability. I just hit 90 on SAGE yesterday
I tagged randomly for a trial and ended up facing Ruby as a Sage. My co-heal said "Sorry BRB" but never came back. I solo healed the team as a Sage 🤣 and it went pretty well
I haven't played this in a few years. Isn't this the class that had the fairy heal pet? It was very cool. But I'm confused why all these new videos don't show the fairy heal pet anymore?
You should never want to cast Diagnosis single target heal, because its weak for a GCD and you miss out on the Addersting proc when the shield is absorbed, and that Addersting is how you become DPS neutral when healing with GCD. Thus, you could safely cast Eukrasian Diagnosis GCD heal without losing dmg potential.
When you have no addersgall, have already used everything and already have euk diag on your mt, diag works well. Same with WHM’s medica and medica 2. In other words, niche situations require niche solutions, and your dps is less than the tank’s, thereby giving more dps if he’s alive. Not to mention that addersting is useless in situations with less than 3 enemies which greatly decreases its’ utility.
I mained DRK and changed to Reaper.. I have NEVER touched healing in an mmo.. that's alot of responsibility XD.. this makes me want to try sage tho... I should use an OG healer to learn then try sage when I'm comfortable.
Im trash at healing but my sage feels better than my whitemage. Maybe because its so many OGCDs so it can adjust more on the fly. If i mess up and use the wrong thing its not a complete disaster
Im about to start playing this game with a few family members for the first time and. I was wondering what begining job would you recommend to play as a healer before I can unlock sage? Thanks
I created a macro for single target shield and aoe shield as well as the dot instead of hitting 2 actions all the time. i tested it out and it seems to work pretty good.
i'm sure there's a lot of great info in this video but i couldn't pay attention to any of it because your addersgall gauge is slightly too far left and not lined up with your mp gauge
So originally I was just always putting Kardia on the tank, but I've found the chip healing of Kardia to not really be enough, so I've begun to start using Kardia as a 'top off' mechanic much the same way that an Astrologian throws around card buffs. Normally I'll have Kardia up on the tank, but say a DPS takes some dmg, instead of stopping my attacks to throw a big heal on them, I'll transfer Kardis to them and continue attacking. After a few attacks, they've been 'topped off' and I'll then transfer the Kardia back to the tank. This also allows me to reserve my Addersgall stacks for bigger heals on the tanks.
yeah I haven't done a lot of sage but when playing I was really underwhelmed with how kardia keeps up with the sort of damage MTs take and I think being a bit more active with it, passing it around others to top them up is a better use.
this is the way kingchole
I usually use the barriers as a top off mechanic. It keeps them alive until I end up using one of the dozens of AOE heals available. But I'll definitely try this out. The problem I see is that the spammable addersgall heal is also pretty weak, so it could be too much trouble moving Kardia around for little payback
@@Dream146 I recently hit lvl 87 on my Sage so I've now unlocked the healing/shielding buff and I would say that the single and multi-target shielding if much more robust. I've been finding that keeping the Eukrasia Diagnosis (single shield) up on tank constantly makes a bigger difference.
Dragoons. Put them on Dragoons.
Watching as a tank main so I know what's being casted on me and how much I can do tanking wise with the healers kit.
Us healer mains appreciate tank knowing our toolkit 👀
You're a blessing 🙌
WAR main and SGE secondary, I play both sides and understanding them both helps ✌️
SCH main and we love us a tank like you
Nice, Ill be sure to watch more tnk vidoes to line up with your changes.
sage is great when everything is predictable. When random people start eating mechanics in alliance raid your healing output is just not enough to pull people through wipefeast. Eos healing the lowest health target turns out to matter a lot in those instances
exactly. there is no comfortable way to handle team members making multiple mistake like there is for White mage and Scholar.
This Is basically my only problem with sage.
Team int go brrrr
I agree but also disagree. Unpredictable players actions are always abundant so you need to always assume someone will make a whoops. When I whm i still had issues with a blm who ate mechanics for breakfast or a drg stuck in animation. If there was an some wide area or incoming mech i always prepped.
I’m a Tank. I have nothing to add, except reading the feedback gives me some perspective on how the healers perform in various situations. Unpredictable ones at that.
Been loving sage, but I was having some issues keeping my tank alive in dungeons and could NOT tell what I was missing. This ended up really helping! Thank you so much!
@@anttheknee1372 I'm pretty sure they amplified dungeon enemis damage so that healers heal more
@@anttheknee1372 I have been doing way better, but any time a tank pulls to a wall, I feel like I'm at my absolute limit.
@@anttheknee1372 Consistently casting eukrasian diagnosis on the tank and using OGCD's when available is what I've been doing. Once the mob dies down a bit, I start using the kardia trickle heal a little more. This is working for me, but just barely enough to get by.
@@JosueCuervo97 ill try that thanks. not too sure whats going on i feel like im doing everything right but the tank just keeps dying
Problem with sage is that its direct heals are limited to its charge system. If your tank has just done one big pull, chances are you won’t have many (or any) charges left for a second big pull…essentially leaving you to spam weak GCD heals.
I wasn't hyped for sage at all, and I'm actually a healer main, but playing it I'm definitely hooked! I do miss two things, a straight forward regen for that one DPS that takes damage on mechanics, and a good single target panic button like essential dignity or benediction. You do get cool combinations later on, but I miss it for synced lower level content
it feels like sage has ONLY aoe heals. tons and tons and tons of aoe heals, that all dont run on the gcds. but all of them are kinda mediocre and you need to use 3-4 to top up the group, what makes you use all of your blue stacks. the entire do dmg to heal mechanic is trash imo, since the single target heals are so bad, you constantly need to either spam your one single target heal, or your aoe heals and you dont have time to really do any dmg inbetween.
help is welcome
just throw kardia on them, technically you could consider that a HOT
@@AssoSiaa yeah, I'm playing it pretty similar to AST (I've never played SCH so I don't know if it's similar). Spending all AOE instant cast heals in pulls to keep the tank healthy avoiding to use too many gcds or spamming barriers. It definitely takes up all your kit to be able to spam damage spells. Haima is definitely your best friend, I just wish the cooldown was shorter, even if the effect suffered a bit to balance it out.
@@Dream146 I haven't seen too many people talking about moving Kardia around but it could be a possibility. Right now I just end up throwing an instant shield and most of the time my AOE healing spells take care of the health missing in the background
@@Dream146 it barely heals at all, if anyone loses 90% HP at once, there's no way to heal it up quickly. And if someone loses a lot of HP a few times back to back, this person will most likely die.
Thank you so much for this video. I want have Sage as a main healer class but didn't know how to play it. Read over skills and still not much clicked. I appreciate how straightforward and simple it is to learn thanks to how you explain how/when to use skills. Other videos on this same subject prattled on too much or barely gave info or both.
Pepsis is a recovery tool, and used reactively. You use it to bring peeps back up quickly. Also very useful for 'heal to full' Doom mechanics including DRK's Walking Dead. It's reverse Emergency Tactics, and you want to throw up your shields first, and then use Pepsis. So GCD>>oGCD instead of oGCD>>GCD
People call it a reverse emergency tactics, but it's nothing of the sort. It's a flat heal. Emergency tactics literally turns the shield itself into the heal, which means that it also gains the crit bonus (which can also be forced), making it an insanely potent heal in a pinch. It's also AoE, which means it robs all players of their barrier when you might only want to use it to top up the tank. If you're using it to top up a player before a big AoE, for example, you might want to keep shields on your other team mates, but just remove the one on the tank and replace it. Easily done on Scholar, but much harder on Sage.
Compare that to Scholar's Succor followed by Emergency Tactics + Succor. Try doing something similar on sage. You literally cannot.
I did myself a favour and levelled AST for the last months of Shadowbringers to prepare myself for SGE. I learned a lot about healing and I think it helped a lot
Yeah, avoided healing like the plague in FFXIV because the idea kind of scared me, but then I picked up Astro over the summer and I was loving it. It meant I didn't have to build the instincts and habits necessary to heal when I got my hands on Sage on Friday
this video is so useful.
Since I was used to scholar who used succor, I thought the group shield was just as useful as the single shield, but I wondered why I rarely ever produced any adderstings. Now I know :)
I mained SCH as my healer since ARR so i when i got my hands on SGE it felt so comfortable off rip. I still think barrier healers need better heal potencies as to alleviate the panic of a tank dropping below 30%
Edit: this WAS 2 days ago, now all my brain is filled with is SGE techs. I was but a learner now i am the gundam
The OGDCs have good potency, thats what should be reserved for panic situations
@@Balloonbot after playing a good long dungeon as SGE, I feel this is true too.
Your basic 3 Eukrasia-able abilities arent that strong in terms of power-healing(with or without the Eukrasia mode), but you've a good amount of resource/CD powerheals that usually are ready by the next time you a raid-wide/tankbuster comes along.
I'm considering re-organizing the kit by *what they do*(aoe heal, ST damage, etc.) rather than my normal method of *what they require*(MP, 120s CD, job resource) so I can just pop whichever one of my big STs, or my big AOEs happen to be available.
@@joshy541 Eukrasian with Soteria is OP for Kardian heals.
Or Zoe with Ixochole or Druchole is OP as well.
These combos is not as strong as WHM but I wanted to show that it is possible to straight heal (no barrier heals) as a Sage.
But Sage is more of a barrier healer (honestly seems more like a vampire healer [heal by doing damage]) but with the kit the Sage has, seems more like an Astro back in 5.0 then a SCH.
The 10% damage reduction ability gets a health Regen later on, so what I like to do is to have at least 1 health Regen ability en at all times alongside my shields
I found a pretty solid combo in eukrasia -> diagnosis + Dirac hole for an “oh shit” tank moment. Usually heals about 40% and gives a barrier to further stabilize and reduces the damage coming in by 10%. Alternatively for AoE since keracholes HoT doesn’t tick immediately you can usually just eukrasia prognosis kerachole to get the 10% damage reduction and shield and not lose a healing tick if you time it as the enemy cast is finishing.
I feel that eukrasian dosis should heal on each tick of the DoT rather than just once. That and more addersting builders and spenders seem necessary.
What!? It doesnt!!??
@@rodrigoordonez2295 It does not. There is no regen effect, just the one time hit of healing from the initial application of the spell.
@@Iymarra This is super counterintuitive. It should heal. In fact, imo they should remove the "this ability damages and does a 130 potency heal to the kardia target" and just make a trait where all damage done by SGE heals for a percentage to the kardia target. Cleaner and clearer.
@@rodrigoordonez2295 the potency goes to 170 with a trait.
And to let Kardia tick with the dot would be WAY too strong. It practically doubles the effect of Kardia and the SCH would be crap against that.
@@zexiz1107 balance it then. Less potency: 20 potency ticks over 30 seconds.
This is a really well made showcase of what the sage can do, thank you!
I found this video insanely helpful. I appreciate the way you group your explanations as well as include the situational logic in which skills should be used. Really helps decode when you’re drinking from the Sage firehose
Having leveled sage to 90, don't be afraid to use those aoe abilities for back up. Abilities like holos give damage reduction which can make it that much easier to keep a tank alive during a big pull, even if no one else is hurt
My main issue is that I panic and use too many too quickly. Only at 77 sge because I kept getting so nervous, but I'm trying!
This is one of the best (if not the best) sage guides I've encountered. I love that this job is so technical. Thanks to your guide, I realized that Krasis increases healing received and not healing done. Thank you so much for making this!
I'd add that if overhealing can be avoided, Pepsis is almost always worth casting on Eukrasian Prognoses. And Pepsis doesn't care about how much the shield remains when it is used, so Pepsis is really nice when shields are partially eaten by damage, though this situation is quite rare, but does happen.
I personally switch my Kardia around fairly frequently, especially in boss fights. It has just a 5-second recast.
I would also point out that if the sage is confident that the tank will survive over the next few global recasts and at least two mobs can be hit, then two Dyskrasias are better damage, require less global-recast commitment (Eukrasia isn't affect by spell speed), and cost less MP than a Eukrasian Diagnosis plus Toxikon (though the value of healing someone shouldn't be completely overlooked). I feel it's like SCH's Adloquium in that Eukrasian Diagnosis is one of the least efficient ways to heal a target, and an ability should generally be preferred. For those just starting with a barrier healer, erring on the side of casting too many Eukrasian Diagnoses is likely the way to go, the cast few of them as they get more experience.
However, if the sage expects that the next pull will have about twice as many mobs as the current pull, stacking up on Addersting is quite can be a damage increase, though not by much. Also, I've found that Toxikon is often easier to cast as the party moves. And because Toxikon II does just as much damage as Dosis III on single targets, having an Addersting available allows the sage to avoid losing damage from movement.
Regardless, there are lots of ways to get the job done.
Toxicon has 10 potency less than Dosis
This will be my first healer and you made it clear and easy to understand so now I feel a little bit more confident to try and learn the role, thanks for the great work
Been playing GNB with my friend on SGE, it's been such a wonderful healer to have around.
this is by far the best guide I've found
As a PLD main, when I get a sage on a dungeon run, I've been pulling less just to let them get used to it. It's gotten a little scary when I pull a big group and I find my health dropping to less than 1k, good thing Hallowed Ground is there for the clutch.
I did the same. I just tanked Tower of Zot with a Sage. It was the first time I'd had to use Hallowed Ground on a trash pull in a long time. But I also think on my end I need to adjust how I'm using Holy Circle/Spirit now that they restore HP. I usually Req > Holy it as an opener, but maybe I'm wasting the HP restore if I use it when I'm already close to full HP. I need to figure that out.
I like to pull big, put pressure
To be honest, it’s just a smart and respectful thing to do when you know a vital player in party is new to a new job or role in taking it normal or slower. I say that as a PLD Tank myself. There is just no need to rush when others in group are just not as experienced in their role. In group dynamics, players need time to figure things out and even when it goes wrong as much as when it goes right. I remember when I had my sprout 🌱 status, still learning to dungeon and green at FF14. But I’m glad that the party groups gave me space to take things slower learning. It never ends, learning. But with any new job/class just smart and good to give room for players to make mistakes while learning to better play their new jobs.
My first time healing as sage, the tank pulled end to end. It was also my first time healing in ffxiv, and on a controller no less.
I'm a monster though, so I handled it, lol.
That being said, initially I had to cycle through my big cooldowns the entire time and sometimes things got dicey. A day of getting used to it now, and I don't use my big cds to heal anymore. If you use the low cd mitigation and keep your shields refreshed instantly after they break, it makes it look like the dungeon doesn't do any damage.
Now the only thing I'm afraid of is falling out of practice of using my big cds. I've been using them casually to mitigate this.
You should be using hallowed ground on trash pulls. What are you saving it for? I find it annoying I go an entire dungeon and PLD never uses hallowed, such a waste of not being used.
When my fav HOTS youtuber becomes my fav FFXIV youtuber. Lookin like Matt Berry from What We Do In The Shadows.
Sage feels good when you have tanks who aren’t dumb and don’t act like they’re Superman.
Haven’t watched you in a while but it’s so awesome to see how well you’ve acclimated to FFXIV!
This guide saved my life as a returning player
This video helped tremendously going from Ast to Sge was a huge wall for me as i was playing them the same instead of preventing the damage beforehand thank you
Love the sage, toxikon needs a buff. It either needs to do more damage or become a Ogcd. Feels like a waste of a gcd currently
Brilliant breakdown of the Job.
I am super keen to get the expansion just to play this job and your video was clear enough for me to know that it's defs worth the $30
Right off the bat I would suggest that Kardia is an incredibly important part of the Sage healing kit. It's a continuous stream of passive healing that you get for doing your normal damage output expected of healers in FFXIV. It is about as important to Sages as Regen is to a White Mage or the faerie is to a Scholar.
Two things I'd like... the dot to heal per tick and (Pan)Haima to have a one minute cooldown. Sage feels great for the most part, right until stuff goes sideways... It can be a real mission to get things back undercontrol.
Perhaps I am playing it wrong or just too used to White Mage, but I'm basically GCD locked it seems. Like half the time I'm going Shield -> Toxicon repeat... toss out the Dot, Taurochole, or w/e when needed, but it feels really uphill. When Euk Diag crits its such a vastly more potent shield, and good feels, and without it it just doesn't seem to have the output like White Mage.
great video, I hope more people who want to play sages find, see and watch it. I have had more wipes in ally raids and dungeons in these last 2-3 days than in the last 3+ months.
As a tank main this video helps with letting me know what a SGE is casting on me. And as someone who pockets healer this helps me better understand SGE
being VERY new to FFXIV but coming from WOW this job feels very much like a Disc Priest , place the hot ( Kardia )on the tank then dps to heal . then just rotating your dots and shields to heal the grp now im sure im missing some things but seems pretty straight forward and not overly complex to play
I love the sage but I will say, keeping a tank topped off on health is a bit more difficult with this class. Healing in general is just odd on this class. Even so... I love the class & most likely determined to make it my main. Coming from a WHM main.
I'd like if if they increased the potentcy a bit
Shield healers take some getting used to tbh, regen healers have it easy
Thank you for your service (aka helping me not get mulched)
-Warrior main
@@rini3159 They can't because then no one would play anything else. There has to be negatives to every job so it evens out.
Fantastic crash course guide! I appreciate the game giving me new jobs that I don't have to level, but having a mess of 18+ new buttons each with their special interactions is daunting.
other use for pepsis : if the shields work like the scholar one, the duration of shields will not be refreshed when casting shields again, so you can use pepsis to remove the shield before applying a new one
The duration will be refreshed if the new shield is slightly bigger. The bigger shield always overwrites the old one
Imma be honest, Sage really makes me appreciate Scholar. I was really hoping this would be my new healer since I like Shields and damage mitigation but dont like pet classes, and I cant really say I've been enjoying it. This job is even less forgiving then Scholar which says alot and I say this as someone who feels as though they've mastered Scholar
As a Gunbreaker main, I often check with my Healer on how much should I pull.
But with Sage I often pull less, since the ones I played with so far can't keep my health up on big pulls. But good ol White Mages keep me healthy and do some good chip damage on bosses, I am learning some Dps classes currently but I might try healing since I dropped it during Stormblood.
Also no matter what don't feel discouraged if you fail, I still occasionally get hit by a weakness stack once or twice even in dungeons I run plenty of times in roulettes. So keep at it and show off your A+ healing game.
The silly name of the Sage weapon is "Noulith", basically Nu Gundam funnels. Thanks for the video, helped me sort out how to use the actions properly! :D
Thanks for guide brotha just picked up sage and this helps
I am really loving the sage! Thank you for this video
Sage needs potency increases for sure. The 130 potency heal is laughably bad. As a backup healer its fine in raids, but as a main healer, its really bad. And the Eukrasian Diagnosis is Stone Skin all over again. SE got rid of Stone Skin and this needs to go too. Sage needs a 700 potency GCD heal period.
you kinda "just read tooltip" but thats what i needed to make sense of it crazy how brain works, thanks
thank this was amazing just what i needed
Is sage good for a first time healer? Is healing viable on console with controller and crossbars in general?
BTW, I was thinking I'd get 7 days free bc of the expansion login issues, and I don't. But I don't care about that. Is there an official social media that yoshi-p sees. I can't believe he was moved to tears over the end walker delays, and I just want to tell him thank you personally as someone who's played, albeit on and off, since 1.0 released. We understand yoshi, it's OK, we get that launches can be rough, and we love you. Thank you for what you've contributed to the FF community 🙏🏿 ❤️
Healing on controller is no problem but sage is probably not the best healer for a first time healer however don't be afraid to try the job they also have test dummies lying about in the world to try skills out on
@@NeocrimsonX thanks. Been away for a year but its that time again. The job changes and more story content always bring me back. Plus I think I'm still in 5.3 so I've got a ways before I'm waiting for the next patch and bored again 😀
@@cliftonjackson441 Controller gets "soft-targeting" which is great for healers.
Basically when you use your dpad to target other enemies/teammates, they will be "soft-targeted". Your next action will go on the soft-target, and then you'll be back to your original hard-target that you were on a second ago.
If you press A(or × for PS players) before casting any spell, the soft-target will become your hard target.
This means that you don't have to re-target the boss if all you want to do is pop a single heal on the tank. It'll re-target for you.
@@cliftonjackson441 hope you enjoy
Yes it's perfectly fine. I haven't healed since ARR and capped my whm and sch at 50, however I picked up Sage and it's been a breeze so far.
Thanks a lot for this easy to understand guide, let's hope I can keep the tank alive now :)
Sage is pretty cool, and just a better SCH IMO. I never really liked SCH but having a fun time with Sage so far. One thing that sucks is that Sage is pretty different from other Healers, and playing with a controller is a bit different because I can't just copy my bars from AST/WHM and have them set up the same way. I'm going to take your advice at the end and make Eukrasia my primary button instead of what is usually my DPS spam. It's funny because I've considered Sage as a DPS/Healer but my hotbar will be set-up in an opposite way from AST/WHM. That probably only makes sense to me, but it's what I've noticed.
Also, in my brief time with Sage it seems like (like some of the other commenters have mentioned) that it's a bit tough when AoEs hit, you have to really plan ahead for those. When things go bad, there seems to be less mitigation; you're not limited by mana but Addersgall which I guess is kinda like Scholar, but perhaps it will just take time to learn.
Sage is the first healing class that looks interesting to me. It is insanely intimidating and I am not sure if this is for healers in general or just that Sage is more difficult. I started in lower level dungeons doing squadron command missions. Then I got through the first Sage quest, which took me a while to adapt and get down.
It is starting to feel better, but I think I need to get a group together for PotD to get it down at a more reasonable rate.
I felt the same way and i've played astro to 80 before this class came out. This class is likely the hardest healer to learn for the simple fact that you have to mainly prevent dmg with barriers first and foremost. Really spam those barriers. Then manage your oGCDs well. There's so many options to choose so it takes practice to know what's the best option for a situation.
That first job quest is fucking rude. I was so hyped for sage, just to get my dick knocked in the dirt. Back to WHM for me, Jesus fuck
This helped me out so much THANK YOU! ❤❤
The weapon of the Sage reminded me of Gundam, so since the moment they announced it, I've been calling those Funnels.
Insta sub purely bc of that accent. I can spy a fellow dubliner anywhere!
Really helpful guide too good sir
From disc priest to sage guides Pog
Ty nervous about going into healer classes but leaning myself in practicing in early dungeons and going up.
I’m a PLD Tank and even though I been playing months, I still consider myself a freshman at FF14. I had16 years of WoW as PLD tank too. I watch this not to play a Sage but to have some understanding of my healer capability. Honestly no idea what most healers do or how they keep me alive. I’ve yet to dungeon with a Sage also. However, I don’t ever check on my healer, unless for some reason I’m doing floor inspections.
But learning what some healer spells are and AoE heals helps to know where the ER Clinic is on the field like the Blue Dome. Often the party healer is set to my Focus, sometimes Melee for focus defensive cast to target. However a Sage also trickle healing me, well that should have no issue quickly triggering my Devine Veil when I cast it to set up a party shield for AoE damage. Sometimes I see boss casting something seemingly AoE and I cast Devine Veil before boss cast is off and trigger it myself just to make sure. That can be a bad habit to seemingly waste a utility for party protection while maybe needing to cast a self defensive.
Still, knowing how my healers function is in my best interest as a Tank in being more effective as well synergy.
Unfortunately, Kardion (Sage's Trickle Heal) does not trigger veil, so healers will still have to spend a GCD to heal you.
@@platinum2925 Thanks for the feedback and in letting me aware.
Thanks for the guide.
I used this video as my Praetorium video while healing for the first time on Sage. ^^
Prognosis and Diagnosis (respectively alone without Eukrasia or Zoe) is useless. Best way to emergency heal (if you don’t have Addersgal) is by:
• Soteria then Eukrasian Diagnosis.
After casting that you should have an Addersgall (should be getting an Addersgall every 20s) or:
• Panhaima, Eukrasian Prog, Zoe, Pepsis. *(Pneuma over Pepsis if you’re 90)*
Slight bit of clarification on what you said about the shielding spells. AoE gives a 320% shield based off a 100 potency heal while the ST gives a 180% shield based off a 300 potency heal. Say you do one-to-one heal to potency. AoE heals for 100 points and gives a 320 point shield to everyone. ST heals for 300 and gives a 540 point shield to one. Not to say the AoE isn't efficient, but like all spells, the ST versions are individually better.
Also you get an Addersting when the shield /breaks/ by damage, not if it just times out. A minor point that you covered in the dungeon footage but not in the review.
I am enjoying Sage a lot, very similar to Scholar which I've generally mained until now. A bit less involved on the mobs then SCH was with more healing options for the party. Though I have noted a much greater tendency to get agro off tanks even through their stance.
Pepsis feels like it functions similar to scholar's emergency tactics, kind of a oh crap i gotta heal hardcore ability
Going to look at my bar set up and git it a try
I really think that for the SGE abilities they just made up some vaguely medical sounding word-like things.
good video bro! my whole party died thought I understood everything but I clearly didn't lol
Liked & Subbed! Thank for This! Great vid, keep up the great work! ;)
I have a "Diagnosis" everytime i try to play this game with a controller(im on ps5), against PC clickers that target anything as fast as Usain Bolt runs against i guy stuck in a wheelchair.
I was thinking that sage heals were a bit low. Been tanking recently and had no idea what sages did. Turns out they been shielding lol
All the creativity for this class went to the names I guess
Great guide!
I really wish they’d done more to make kardia a core element of the kit. Right now it’s a set and forget source of incremental healing. Pretty disappointing compared to how sophisticated a damage to heal kit could be.
I can't wait to try progression healing with my Sage.
As an ilvl 630 healer main who has all four healers @ lvl 90....I don't know how tf y'all play Sage and like it. :/ Its healing abilities are subpar, its shielding abilities shield for far less than Scholar, it has little raid utility, and it has far less margin for error. But perhaps that's what y'all like about it? I can tell you right now that AST's and SCH's healing and shielding are so powerful that it may make them feel slow and boring to play. You don't necessarily need to be constantly mashing healing or mitigation buttons, which means you can focus on dpsing. SGE on the other hand practically requires rapid non-stop button pressing and dpsing just to keep your party members up and bearly alive. But that doesn't mean that that it's balanced or "good." It just means you're having to do significantly more work just to break even compared to the other healers. Sage is THE reactive healer. All of it's abilities are geared toward quick on-the-fly decision-making. Also, ironically, the less shielding and healing you have to do means the more time you can spend dpsing. Unfortunately, Sage spends more time healing and shielding than dpsing than the other healers. Sure, almost all of Sage's abilities are instant cast, but that also doesn't make it a good thing. If you like that sort of thing, then more power to you. If Sage is your aesthetic, then right on! Play and do what you love. But Sage is absolutely not for me. I consider it the worst of the healers presently. My ranking would be: AST > SCH > WHM > SGE.
Sage is great but one specific instance i consistently fail in is the big pull right before the first boss of Holminster Switch. I regularly wipe the group there. There have definitely been occasions where the tank has failed to use their invuln, but i feel like i should be able to handle it regardless of that. I start with physys and kerachole and haima, and then zoe taurochole, then go back to kerachole after that but even then i still can not keep up with that much damage. I have done a lot of searching and even though that pull is notorious for being extremely difficult i have not found any forums about it or guides on youtube talking about it. Surely i can't be the only sage that struggles with this.
The healing from Kardion isn't really big enough to be able to say "You'd rather be doing damage and relying on Kardion."
That won't fly in normal fights and doesn't really even keep up with auto attacks from enemy mobs. You're right that you should try to use oGCD heals as much as possible, though. Keep Eukrasian Diagnosis up as MUCH as possible, because when that shield is fully absorbed you gain Addersting.
It feels totally different then whm my main right now. I came back to the game after 6 months and am super rusty leveling a few classes. I don't fully understand the abilities yet with sage and gunbreaker especially.
Sage has honestly been a blast to figure out. It is pretty mana efficient (only time i ran out was when i stopped paying attention XD). I need to be better at spending my Addersgal when its full, so just pop a random one whenever. Kardia, depending on party and situation, I've decided to put on the other Healer as priority, so just in case, they are always getting healed in emergency, and can focus on healing others for the most part. When it comes to AOE moments, I've sorta had this priority I've been practicing. Tried to do it so I'm not overusing or underusing Adder in case of emergency, and some ablities will be available if needed:
1. E. Prog & Kerachole > AOE hits > E.Prog & Pepsis
2. E.Prog > AOE hits > E. Prog & Ixochole
3. The Oh sh*t (80 below): E.Prog & Kerachole > AOE hits > ZoE & Physis 2 > E.Prog & Ixochole & Helios > Pepsis (if needed for top off)
Thank you for the guide \o/
As a schollar main, after trying out Sage in a couple dungeons. I think I'll stay Schollar
The main problem with healers is when a tank pulls a lot of the time they won't use any of their cds. In turn they blame it on the healer when they can do nothing but try to keep them alive. I used to hate healing until I played sage. Out of all the dungeons and trials I have had only 2 complaints and those were the ones that doesn't use cds. I main all tanks and I'm constantly using cds on w2w pulls. Healer is just a class where you have to be ready for negative feedback even if you are playing the job well.
Oh, Man, GREAT video and very helpful :) I'm loving the Sage. I have a lvl 80 WHM as well, but this just feels more powerful, more in your face,.... dare I say, "Vengeful" for all those you loved and couldn't save? It's the "Oh, hell no-- I'm not taking your shit anymore!" job for healing. LOL! I love it has an aggressive, smooth and fast playstyle. I told a friend that WHM plays like a Healer with some DPS abilities, but Sage feels like a DPS with a ton of Healing abilities-- directly and indirectly.
on the part where Zoe is described, it is worth noting that Eurkrasia is also a Spell so, if you use Zoe then Eukrasia...it will use your Zoe buff. You will need to use Eukrasia first, then case Zoe, then use the buff for a heal spell
I feel like the excogitation + recitation from scholar combo! I didn’t think of that before
That is not correct. Eukrasia is a spell that "augments certain abilities" which is not a healing spell, means Eukrasia doesn't heal. It won't consume the Zoe buff. You can use Zoe then Eukrasia. Zoe: "Increases healing magic potency of your next healing spell by 50%."
Not enough people are playing SGE and keeping shields up. SGE excels at preventing or mitigating damage, not huge direct heals. If you want big direct heals, play WHM. A good SGE is my favorite dungeon tank, but a bad SGE can make tanking really rough.
This strangely reminds me of Heroes of the Storm Kael'thas, Eukrasia is like Verdant Sphere.
Thank you for explaining slowly and more indepth that an idiot like me can understand.... this class was starting to make me hate it coz a. the names were confusing me ,B, i couldnt make head nore tail of them , C, having to press eukrasia b4 any spells to make the spells proc was cheesing me off.. and i wanted to delete the class... now i know there are a lot of videos on line on how to play this class but either i cant understand the peoples accents, or they talk way to fast, and show what they are doing way to fast and i couldnot keep up... so thank you
:0 So cool
PSA: Toxicon 1 deals less single target damage than Dosis 2. Against single enemies only use Toxicon 1 if you need to keep DPS up during movement.
Toxicon 2 however deals more damage than Dosis 3, so if you are about to overcap on Addersting stacks try to use some up if you can afford to.
Edit: Toxicon 2 deals identical damage to Dosis 3. I was thinking of Dosis 2
Toxicon deals even less.
Toxicon II: 320
Dosis III: 330
@@zexiz1107 we're both wrong, Toxicon 2 has 330 potency, so identical damage
@@NeoZhinzo On the job page it says 320
@@zexiz1107 I was looking at my tooltip in game
@@NeoZhinzo me too. In the german tootip it is also 320... weird...
It may because you don't have all the skills but ZOE should be used on pneuma for a 900 potency heal. Pneuma is your lvl90 ability. I just hit 90 on SAGE yesterday
I tagged randomly for a trial and ended up facing Ruby as a Sage. My co-heal said "Sorry BRB" but never came back. I solo healed the team as a Sage 🤣 and it went pretty well
I love Sage ❤️ love it more and more as I take experience
I haven't played this in a few years. Isn't this the class that had the fairy heal pet? It was very cool. But I'm confused why all these new videos don't show the fairy heal pet anymore?
wait a second... didn't you teach me how to play heroes of teh storm
You should never want to cast Diagnosis single target heal, because its weak for a GCD and you miss out on the Addersting proc when the shield is absorbed, and that Addersting is how you become DPS neutral when healing with GCD. Thus, you could safely cast Eukrasian Diagnosis GCD heal without losing dmg potential.
When you have no addersgall, have already used everything and already have euk diag on your mt, diag works well. Same with WHM’s medica and medica 2.
In other words, niche situations require niche solutions, and your dps is less than the tank’s, thereby giving more dps if he’s alive.
Not to mention that addersting is useless in situations with less than 3 enemies which greatly decreases its’ utility.
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That would be me lol. Trying to heal and in 5 secs…..ALL DEAD. I’m going to try this sage as I just unlocked it. I’ve always played ranged dps.
Love sage I feel it kinda putters out of resources unlike the other healers, and at some point you just end up using the bad cure while you wait.
I mained DRK and changed to Reaper.. I have NEVER touched healing in an mmo.. that's alot of responsibility XD.. this makes me want to try sage tho... I should use an OG healer to learn then try sage when I'm comfortable.
Phlegma sounds way too close to smegma 😭. Great guide my guy!
never healed before so hopefully this doesnt end badly😭
Must be nice to be able to log in to the servers :/
Im trash at healing but my sage feels better than my whitemage. Maybe because its so many OGCDs so it can adjust more on the fly.
If i mess up and use the wrong thing its not a complete disaster
I hadn't considered how in some ways it's reversed from Scholar. The Shields are instant, but the Heals are cast?
They also have a lot of instant heals
Im about to start playing this game with a few family members for the first time and. I was wondering what begining job would you recommend to play as a healer before I can unlock sage? Thanks
White mage
I created a macro for single target shield and aoe shield as well as the dot instead of hitting 2 actions all the time. i tested it out and it seems to work pretty good.
Hello, what is the macro?
@@Vrais23 /micon "Eukrasian Diagnosis"
/ac "Eukrasia"
/ac "Diagnosis"
@@Vrais23 /micon "Eukrasian Prognosis"
/ac "Eukrasia"
/ac "Prognosis"
@@Bryr2112 thanks!
@@Vrais23 yup, np
i'm sure there's a lot of great info in this video but i couldn't pay attention to any of it because your addersgall gauge is slightly too far left and not lined up with your mp gauge
My lvl 70 sage created a shield that was way over 100% of my hp. The entire bar was shielded and stars started appearing next to the shield bar >___