Hi Tom, That's a good demo, glad about the alcohol trick, a little denatured for work, and, later at the end of the day a little alcohol from a good beer for the machinist... Cheers, Pierre
hello Tom , I am very happy for u share their knowledge and experience with us. My profession is to work with lathe machine . even with my experience I have learned always something new and also here in Brazil do not have the resources that you guys have there . and tool here are very expensive .but there's a lot we can do to oneself . I'm always watching your videos . although I'm a little sad to not understand English .in far as possible put subtitles so that those that came with your channel can understand better. if possible send a hug Abon pro and pro Kilroy much like the videos of them also . a lot of health and peace for you .
Enjoyed, learned from and digested. Informative video, well edited. It is always a delight to see work done at such a high level backed up by many years of experience. Wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
Well Howdy stranger. Haven't seen a comment from the frozen north in quite a while. Finally dig out of the storm? Thanks for stopping by. All the best, Tom
We had a dusting of snow at the 700 meter altitude yesterday. Fear and trembling immediately ensued. As I get older winters seem more difficult. However, we just got our certificate of occupancy on our building and will be working indoors in a heated workshop this winter! Tom, although I do not (yet?) post videos of what I am doing and feel a bit guilty that you guys are doing all the work from which I benefit, I want you to know that your videos are a source of both information and encouragement to me and surely to many, many others. Your having created a sense of community by reaching out in many ways to others has created a dynamic space for belonging. The way you guys spontaneously decide to build something for one another is a surprising and refreshing development steering the tool fetish away from the materialistic addiction of "to have for having's sake" to gestures of "see what I can do for you." OK, I am prone to be verbose, but wanted to let you know I do appreciate your considerable efforts. Many thanks, jim
Jim Milne Hi Jim, Well that was a very nice note. I look forward to the day when shop video's start coming out of Greenland. You are right it is a nice community we are building here. Its fun to be a part of it. All the best, Tom
Hey Tom, Thanks for the great video! Now you can play Frizbie around the shop with your new toy. :-) So where were you when things started shaking at 3:20 this morning? You are closer to American Canyon that I am. I was still up, reading and thinking I should go to bed. There was a little bump and a second later, a rolling feeling like the the Big One in '89! The quake went on for a good 8 or so seconds! I fired up my laptop and starting bopping around the 'net to see what was going on. The epicenter was about 10 miles deep between Napa and American Canyon. The initial reading was 6.0 later upgraded to 6.1 by the USGS. It woke up the Mrs. as well as neighbors. That's life in Earthquake Country! Have a good one . . . and stay quake-free! Dave
Hi Tom ! A really nice job ... shinning like gold ! That ethanol thing is good ... I have done a few of these thin-washers, but had big problems getting them off again - alcohol ofcourse - I think my glue is afraid of that too !! I'm lookin forward to see the use of this washer !
Hi Tom, Man, am I ever glad you decided to show the peeling of the tape backing! Your scalpel work was extraordinary... That's some really nice tape very consistent on the thickness... Thrust bearing surface inaccuracies can add up quickly on large diameter stuff... Thank you for your efforts! :o] O,,,
Hi Tom, I use double sided tape for all sorts of things. I've got some real thin stuff at work, but no branding on it. It's more convenient most of the time than some of the old time methods, like shellac, beeswax, pitch, or even newspaper and paste. The latter is perfect for turning split casting patterns though.
Hey Dog, The old guy I worked with in the sheet metal trade used to say, "Time to get off the horse" What he meant was the point of no further improvement had been reached. A very important lesson and point to be able to identify. Another journeyman trait. Cheers, Tom
Keith said once about acceptable tolerances to a old timer he said there weren't any it fit's just right. I worked with a true journeyman (house's/buildings) for two years and I thought I had my crap together !
When you did the final facing cut, did you rely on the DRO or on your eye and feel when making contact with the disk. This is great video indeed. That giant machine making such precise cuts is fascinating to watch.
Hey Ken, Once I have a good calibration on the DRO I generally follow it. I had no good way to measure the washer directly so I had to rely on my pickup, tool calibration, and offset for the tape thickness. Got pretty close. Cheers, Tom
Nicely done Tom. I like your lathe jig, and that tape proved it's worth. Do you know what grade the brass is? Looks kinda like aluminum bronze with the stingy chips. I'm with Stan, how do you like the DRO? Adam
Hey Adam, I think you are right. I thought it was 360 but the color change and the chips look bronze. Scrap yard special. Who knows at $10/lb. The DRO is great. I'd buy another in a heartbeat if I got a machine I wanted one on. All the best, Tom
I use that tape or similar in my workshop when I need to create a fence or a support machining joinery on a wood milling machine. Its amazingly strong. Leave it on too long and you pay the price. It sticks like s..t to a blanket :-)
From platinum cups to gold records! Nice job, I like the concentricity/chicken washer. I take it you don't have a faceplate for the Yam or just easier than removing the chuck? Colin ;-)
Tom, Enjoyed the video. Nice job as always. I use 3M's VHB (Very High Bond) in the same manor that you do, I also use acetone to remove, but makes a gummy mess, I'll have to try alcohol next time. The DRO is really cool!
I think that 3M uses an alcohol - ethyl or iso-propyl - as the solvent in their factories - lower organic vapor in their exhausted air, less of a fire hazard... Some of their spray adhesives turn gummy after application, because the glue oxidizes a bit - I recall getting gummy messes even using alcohol wipes to remove Spray Bond from electronics stuff back when.
Hey Herb, The VHB is different because it has no backing. Its basically pure goo essence. It does stick like the dickens. Never been able to measure it very confidently. Cheers, Tom
You are right, its a little spongy. I've cut disks by putting a center drill to locate the center, then I use a dead center to line it up and push it into the tape, then I replace the dead center with a pressure plate to push the part against the backing plate.
What ho young Tom, that tape is quite thick, which I guess is an advantage over some of the tapes which are little more than a film of glue, as it has some strength to help when peeling. ATB chris
Hey Tom, great job on that washer. I like the two sided tape idea. When you back up for next pass, you go far past the start of cut. Is that to rid the backlash?
Hey Chuck, I really like it so far. My only complaint is the multiple tool function is a little clumsy having to access a sub menu to get it going. I feel this should be front panel functionality instead of some of the other crap they have there. I'd buy another one without a second thought if that helps any. Cheers, Tom
Thanks Tom, great stuff as usual, have your books to read now as well. Perhaps a non turning question if I may ... what is the music that can be heard in the background?
If excessive heat is a problem with the double stick tape, does a torch and warming the part make a good way to remove the part? (PS. I am still watching the video, so I haven't seen how you remove the washer yet)
Thanks for getting this done Tom, now I can get my s*#t oops I mean "stuff"done!! Little Sunday morning humor... Nice job, and as usual learned something new. You are the man Tom, thank you for all your time to show us!! Razor!
So, just to clarify...I seem to recall this being the question forming in my head on Pt. 1. You achieved concentricety with the turning of the second, or larger O.D. after mounting the I.D. to the center flange? I just recall thinking that the belt sanded O.D. wasn't concentric to the I.D when you created it and am wondering if I am correct in following how you achieved the final relationship between the tow holes? Horrible way to ask the question I know, but it has been bugging me since you turned the 1st ID. Thanks for any clarity you can shine on that...Aloha, Chuck.
Hey Chuck, You are correct. This part did not have any real fussy relationship between the ID and OD. In the second setup I had access to the od so I went ahead ad turned it nice and spiffy. Cheers, Tom
Do you make customs thrust washers reason I ask is that It’s basically impossible to get the correct size thrust washers for my sons dirtbike! I can find the right size ID and OD but the thickness that I come across is to thick is it possible to milk down to specific thickness with lathe? And are you interested in making these ?
That tape is available on Amazon if anyone's interested. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be available in the UK. www.amazon.com/Nitto-Permacel-Double-Coated-Kraft/dp/B000QDL9GK
Hi DSC, We always used the alcohol. Many of the plastics we used this technique with would be damaged by harsher solvents. I cant remember how the glue behaves with straight Acetone. Cheers, Tom
Hey Wayne, Don't know if its a Havalon. It is a #2 however. I have both sizes. I prefer the sterile blades as they seem to be slightly sharper out of the package. Cheers, Tom
That tends to leave tape residue on *both* surfaces, which you still need to remove with a solvent and a scraper. Wood turners use a lot of the thicker double-stick tape, and are a bit more concerned about swelling the grain or staining their wood when they take a piece off of a faceplate, so they do things like you describe.
Hi Nathan, For more fragile parts I have used a Mylar film to kind of slice through the tape layer to free a delicate part. It makes more of a mess of the tape but is sometimes the only way to free a part held by this tape. Cheers, Tom
Cool video, good to see chips flying. One nit, from the spelling I would think that a wabble drive is pronouced in the style of Elmer Fudd talking about a wraskally wabbit. It isn't it "waaaable"? Sounds to me like you are saying wobble, but it could just be my mis-hearing your east bay accent.
It can be a bit messy, leaving an oily film. Acetone works, but the fumes are a bit strong - ramp that up for lacquer thinner, which is not a good thing for skin contact, so wear nitrile gloves and work with lots of fresh air... 90% iso-propyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) works too - the 70% stuff not so well, too much water... but, it will still remove Sharpie ink... I keep some in the shop because it's cheap and fairly low on the hazard scale. I usually have Goo-Gone - kerosene and citrus oil - in the shop... cuts the think crud, like old duct tape glue, leaves a thin residue of oil. Denatured alcohol is also sold as shellac thinner - ethanol, but with a trace of poison in it, so don't drink it! Most tape glues are alcohol based / soluble, so you are trying to get the best dissolution by using a solvent similar to what they used in the factory... The older, oxidized stuff may need a little persuasion.
I myself use Naphtha, it cleans everything if you let it soak a bit. Tho word of warning, do not touch it with bare hands or use it in an un-ventilated environment. If you follow those 2 simple rules and of course dispose of it properly you will never get dirty finger nails again. The hardest test i've given to this thing is a friend's 1975 BMW 318 gearbox. The thing had been "refurbished" by its previous owner. No idea what the stuff inside was but not even soaking it in diesel did it. Left it 2 days and all we did after that was to remove the gunk that was basically metal bits and other crud of the sort left at the bottom of the case. All the surfaces were clean and ready to work on. Oh and you need to shake it.
Ox, for aluminum use Kennametal CCMT insert (size and nr of your choice here) LF chipbreaker in K68 grade. There is no better insert for aluminum on manual lathes.
Not much to see, uncoated carbide with a simple chipbreaker but I have found it perfect for low cutting speeds and feeds in aluminum. I run it wet but a mist or brushed on oil would probably work just fine. I like CCMT for its flexibility, I use them in my OD and ID tools in 3/8 and 1/4 ic sizes with a .016 chipbreaker.
Just to continue, it eliminates the stringy chip you were getting with one of those high polished high rake jobs. I only find those work to break the chip if you push them hard.
465maltbie Good point. The high positives are free cutting but with light finishing cuts make longer chips. I will have to see about getting some of the Kennametals you mention. They don't give their stuff away for sure. Cheers, Tom
oxtoolco Maritool, good prices and a pkg of 5 rather than the normal 10. www.maritool.com/Indexable-Tooling-Boring-Bars-Boring-Bar-Inserts/c50_142_143/p2276/CCMT09T304LF-K68/product_info.html
Well if carpet tape holds Jesus to the cross then this stuff holds the cross to the mountain. This is industrial duty tape. Not to be confused with hardware store grade double back tape. It stands up to flood coolant for pretty long time. long enough to get the job done in many cases. Cheers, Tom
Pretty sure must have heard " you remind me of my old shop teacher" a lot. Thx for all the effort put into these videos, they are really entertaining.
Hi Tom,
That's a good demo, glad about the alcohol trick, a little denatured for work, and, later at the end of the day a little alcohol from a good beer for the machinist...
Cheers,
Pierre
hello Tom , I am very happy for u share their knowledge and experience with us. My profession is to work with lathe machine . even with my experience I have learned always something new and also here in Brazil do not have the resources that you guys have there . and tool here are very expensive .but there's a lot we can do to oneself . I'm always watching your videos . although I'm a little sad to not understand English .in far as possible put subtitles so that those that came with your channel can understand better. if possible send a hug Abon pro and pro Kilroy much like the videos of them also . a lot of health and peace for you .
Hi Roberto,
I will say hello to Adam and James for you. Glad you have found some useful information on the show.
All the best,
Tom
Enjoyed, learned from and digested. Informative video, well edited. It is always a delight to see work done at such a high level backed up by many years of experience. Wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
Well Howdy stranger. Haven't seen a comment from the frozen north in quite a while. Finally dig out of the storm? Thanks for stopping by.
All the best,
Tom
We had a dusting of snow at the 700 meter altitude yesterday. Fear and trembling immediately ensued. As I get older winters seem more difficult. However, we just got our certificate of occupancy on our building and will be working indoors in a heated workshop this winter!
Tom, although I do not (yet?) post videos of what I am doing and feel a bit guilty that you guys are doing all the work from which I benefit, I want you to know that your videos are a source of both information and encouragement to me and surely to many, many others. Your having created a sense of community by reaching out in many ways to others has created a dynamic space for belonging. The way you guys spontaneously decide to build something for one another is a surprising and refreshing development steering the tool fetish away from the materialistic addiction of "to have for having's sake" to gestures of "see what I can do for you."
OK, I am prone to be verbose, but wanted to let you know I do appreciate your considerable efforts.
Many thanks,
jim
Jim Milne Hi Jim,
Well that was a very nice note. I look forward to the day when shop video's start coming out of Greenland. You are right it is a nice community we are building here. Its fun to be a part of it.
All the best,
Tom
Wheel on the lathe goes round and round seriously very cool stuff keep up the awesome vids
Hey Dewanye,
Thanks for the comment.
Cheers,
Tom
This video was jam packed with useful tips and tricks. nice job. Thanks for sharing these
Hi Mitchell,
Thanks for the comment.
Cheers,
Tom
Nice job Tom, great way to demonstrate that method of work holding. I made a lens board for my enlarger on the mill using tape to hold down the stock.
Hey Bill,
The tape works well if you have enough surface area. Its nice to be able to get at most of the sides in one setup.
Cheers,
Tom
Hey Tom,
Thanks for the great video! Now you can play Frizbie around the shop with your new toy. :-) So where were you when things started shaking at 3:20 this morning? You are closer to American Canyon that I am. I was still up, reading and thinking I should go to bed. There was a little bump and a second later, a rolling feeling like the the Big One in '89! The quake went on for a good 8 or so seconds! I fired up my laptop and starting bopping around the 'net to see what was going on. The epicenter was about 10 miles deep between Napa and American Canyon. The initial reading was 6.0 later upgraded to 6.1 by the USGS. It woke up the Mrs. as well as neighbors. That's life in Earthquake Country!
Have a good one . . . and stay quake-free!
Dave
Hey Dave,
Woke me and the neighbors up. Pretty good bump to wake me up. Seemed really short but I may have missed some.
cheers,
Tom
Hi Tom !
A really nice job ... shinning like gold !
That ethanol thing is good ... I have done a few of these thin-washers, but had big problems getting them off again - alcohol ofcourse - I think my glue is afraid of that too !!
I'm lookin forward to see the use of this washer !
Hey Keld,
You need to try a liberal application of Akavit. It loosens the old nut holding the tool.
Cheers,
Tom
That's a slick looking washer there!
Hi Tom, Man, am I ever glad you decided to show the peeling of the tape backing! Your scalpel work was extraordinary... That's some really nice tape very consistent on the thickness... Thrust bearing surface inaccuracies can add up quickly on large diameter stuff... Thank you for your efforts! :o]
O,,,
Hey O,
Its all that home surgery I do. Lots of practice.
All the best,
Tom
Tom, many good "tricks of the trade". Thanks
Hi Tom,
I use double sided tape for all sorts of things. I've got some real thin stuff at work, but no branding on it.
It's more convenient most of the time than some of the old time methods, like shellac, beeswax, pitch, or even newspaper and paste. The latter is perfect for turning split casting patterns though.
Hey Paul,
I've used Dop wax with some good results. It has the advantage that its totally water proof. Thanks for the comment.
Cheers,
Tom
Good Stuff Tom, Very educational. for those of us who are too old to start another hobby :).
Hey S,
Never too old to start a new hobby. The acquisition phase is probably the most fun you can have with a hobby.
Cheers,
Tom
becoming a journeyman in a trade takes longer then some might think ! patience is one of the hardest things to master ..
Hey Dog,
The old guy I worked with in the sheet metal trade used to say, "Time to get off the horse" What he meant was the point of no further improvement had been reached. A very important lesson and point to be able to identify. Another journeyman trait.
Cheers,
Tom
Keith said once about acceptable tolerances to a old timer he said there weren't any it fit's just right. I worked with a true journeyman (house's/buildings) for two years and I thought I had my crap together !
I like the double stick tape, it did a nice job for your work holding needs.
Thanks....13
The denatured alcohol was a good trick, Tom. I was wondering how you would get the workpiece off. Very nice work, as usual.
Super glue works great for sticking things together. Heat (aka an electric hot plate) will separate them with ease....
Thanks Tom for the great video, again. Randy
That brass wool, screw it up tightly and pack it into small jars, it's great for cleaning hot soldering iron tips (for electronics).
Very nice! I like your use of 2 sided tape. I have never considered doing anything this way but I am going to store that trick away for later. Thanks!
Hey Mike,
Stick it in your toolbox and pull it out when your backed into a corner. Works great once you understand the limitations.
Cheers,
Tom
I guess your album finally went gold!
Hey Justin,
Thanks to fans like you. See you at the awards show.
Cheers,
Tom
When you did the final facing cut, did you rely on the DRO or on your eye and feel when making contact with the disk. This is great video indeed. That giant machine making such precise cuts is fascinating to watch.
Hey Ken,
Once I have a good calibration on the DRO I generally follow it. I had no good way to measure the washer directly so I had to rely on my pickup, tool calibration, and offset for the tape thickness. Got pretty close.
Cheers,
Tom
Nicely done Tom. I like your lathe jig, and that tape proved it's worth. Do you know what grade the brass is? Looks kinda like aluminum bronze with the stingy chips.
I'm with Stan, how do you like the DRO?
Adam
Hey Adam,
I think you are right. I thought it was 360 but the color change and the chips look bronze. Scrap yard special. Who knows at $10/lb. The DRO is great. I'd buy another in a heartbeat if I got a machine I wanted one on.
All the best,
Tom
I use that tape or similar in my workshop when I need to create a fence or a support machining joinery on a wood milling machine. Its amazingly strong. Leave it on too long and you pay the price. It sticks like s..t to a blanket :-)
Hi Tom, just saw the news that the wine was sloshed around a bit in your area. Hope you and the machines are still level. Jim
Hey Jim,
All good around the shop. Just interrupted my sleep a little. Some folk up north from here had some real problems.
Cheers,
Tom
Now u have me lookin up sticktion.
Thank You, for this video and the knowledge.
Hey Harley,
Thanks for the comment.
Cheers,
Tom
From platinum cups to gold records! Nice job, I like the concentricity/chicken washer.
I take it you don't have a faceplate for the Yam or just easier than removing the chuck?
Colin ;-)
Hey Colin,
Can't dink the tool into the cast iron face plates. The little sub face plate is a really quick setup for small parts.
All the best,
Tom
Tom, Enjoyed the video. Nice job as always.
I use 3M's VHB (Very High Bond) in the same manor that you do, I also use acetone to remove, but makes a gummy mess, I'll have to try alcohol next time. The DRO is really cool!
I think that 3M uses an alcohol - ethyl or iso-propyl - as the solvent in their factories - lower organic vapor in their exhausted air, less of a fire hazard...
Some of their spray adhesives turn gummy after application, because the glue oxidizes a bit - I recall getting gummy messes even using alcohol wipes to remove Spray Bond from electronics stuff back when.
Hey Herb,
The VHB is different because it has no backing. Its basically pure goo essence. It does stick like the dickens. Never been able to measure it very confidently.
Cheers,
Tom
You are right, its a little spongy. I've cut disks by putting a center drill to locate the center, then I use a dead center to line it up and push it into the tape, then I replace the dead center with a pressure plate to push the part against the backing plate.
Very good video I enjoy all of your videos but curious what was the Wabble Drive Thrust Washer for wood it be possible to see what in went on
Hey Kim,
Nice one. I think you used all your allotment of W's for the week you wascal.
Cheers,
Tom
Looks like a gold record..
Tom,
Don't forget to show us this washer installed & operating...
Hey Dave,
Don't worry. You will get to see it soon.
Cheers,
Tom
What ho young Tom, that tape is quite thick, which I guess is an advantage over some of the tapes which are little more than a film of glue, as it has some strength to help
when peeling.
ATB
chris
Hey Tom, great job on that washer. I like the two sided tape idea.
When you back up for next pass, you go far past the start of cut.
Is that to rid the backlash?
Hey Dennis,
Old habit I guess. Always approach with minimum lash.
Cheers,
Tom
With some trigger time behind you with the new DRO, what do you love and hate about it?
Hey Chuck,
I really like it so far. My only complaint is the multiple tool function is a little clumsy having to access a sub menu to get it going. I feel this should be front panel functionality instead of some of the other crap they have there. I'd buy another one without a second thought if that helps any.
Cheers,
Tom
Thanks Tom, great stuff as usual, have your books to read now as well. Perhaps a non turning question if I may ... what is the music that can be heard in the background?
Hey Hackenbush,
Its my wife's music. El-Hadra The Mystic Dance is the album.
Cheers,
Tom
oxtoolco
Thanks for the reply Tom, and pass on my thanks to your wife too!
nice job tom
If excessive heat is a problem with the double stick tape, does a torch and warming the part make a good way to remove the part? (PS. I am still watching the video, so I haven't seen how you remove the washer yet)
Hi Tom, great job, but more importantly, are you ok after the quake? Hope it wasn't too bad in Benicia, and you are all safe.
Hey Bill,
All is well around here. Folks North of us got hammered a bit. All the wine drinkers are crying in their glasses right now.
cheers,
Tom
Thanks for getting this done Tom, now I can get my s*#t oops I mean "stuff"done!!
Little Sunday morning humor...
Nice job, and as usual learned something new.
You are the man Tom, thank you for all your time to show us!!
Razor!
Hey Ray,
Thanks for the comment. How's the pipe threading going?
Cheers,
Tom
oxtoolco Pipe threading?
Oh yea, that pipe threading....
Still threading....
I'm hating this job!!
So, just to clarify...I seem to recall this being the question forming in my head on Pt. 1. You achieved concentricety with the turning of the second, or larger O.D. after mounting the I.D. to the center flange? I just recall thinking that the belt sanded O.D. wasn't concentric to the I.D when you created it and am wondering if I am correct in following how you achieved the final relationship between the tow holes?
Horrible way to ask the question I know, but it has been bugging me since you turned the 1st ID.
Thanks for any clarity you can shine on that...Aloha, Chuck.
Hey Chuck,
You are correct. This part did not have any real fussy relationship between the ID and OD. In the second setup I had access to the od so I went ahead ad turned it nice and spiffy.
Cheers,
Tom
Do you make customs thrust washers reason I ask is that It’s basically impossible to get the correct size thrust washers for my sons dirtbike! I can find the right size ID and OD but the thickness that I come across is to thick is it possible to milk down to specific thickness with lathe? And are you interested in making these ?
P02 tape is now produced by Nitto (Permacel).
howdy tom have you ever worked/built any firearms? great job on that big washer
Hi Dog,
Only the kind that start with a Z and end with a P..... Its what machinists do when they are Breaking Bad.
Cheers,
Tom
That tape is available on Amazon if anyone's interested.
Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be available in the UK.
www.amazon.com/Nitto-Permacel-Double-Coated-Kraft/dp/B000QDL9GK
Part removal - What happens if you dip the whole thing in something like acetone or carb/brake cleaner?
Hi DSC,
We always used the alcohol. Many of the plastics we used this technique with would be damaged by harsher solvents. I cant remember how the glue behaves with straight Acetone.
Cheers,
Tom
You can stick that chuck where the sun don't shine.....Literally, you can......
But seriously, Would a heat gun break the bond and release the part?
Hi John,
Heat certainly helps. The tape responds to denatured alcohol with some patience. Thanks for the comment.
Cheers,
Tom
Nice job!!!
Is that a havalon knife you are using to trim off that tape?
Wayne
Looks like a #2 = larger than a #1 - scalpel to me, and Tom did say that it's a scalpel...
Hey Wayne,
Don't know if its a Havalon. It is a #2 however. I have both sizes. I prefer the sterile blades as they seem to be slightly sharper out of the package.
Cheers,
Tom
What about a small diameter wire pulled through the softened tape, like a cheese cutter?
That tends to leave tape residue on *both* surfaces, which you still need to remove with a solvent and a scraper.
Wood turners use a lot of the thicker double-stick tape, and are a bit more concerned about swelling the grain or staining their wood when they take a piece off of a faceplate, so they do things like you describe.
Hi Nathan,
For more fragile parts I have used a Mylar film to kind of slice through the tape layer to free a delicate part. It makes more of a mess of the tape but is sometimes the only way to free a part held by this tape.
Cheers,
Tom
Cool video, good to see chips flying. One nit, from the spelling I would think that a wabble drive is pronouced in the style of Elmer Fudd talking about a wraskally wabbit. It isn't it "waaaable"? Sounds to me like you are saying wobble, but it could just be my mis-hearing your east bay accent.
Hey Wat,
Whaats up Doc?
All the best,
Tom
Man, that sticky-cobweb chip is a total mess, isn't it? Is brass always that ... willful?
have you ever tried WD40 to remove the adhesive? works just fine for me.
its actually a really good sticker remover, i use it to get rid of sticky stuff that is left by duck tape.
It can be a bit messy, leaving an oily film. Acetone works, but the fumes are a bit strong - ramp that up for lacquer thinner, which is not a good thing for skin contact, so wear nitrile gloves and work with lots of fresh air...
90% iso-propyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) works too - the 70% stuff not so well, too much water... but, it will still remove Sharpie ink... I keep some in the shop because it's cheap and fairly low on the hazard scale.
I usually have Goo-Gone - kerosene and citrus oil - in the shop... cuts the think crud, like old duct tape glue, leaves a thin residue of oil.
Denatured alcohol is also sold as shellac thinner - ethanol, but with a trace of poison in it, so don't drink it!
Most tape glues are alcohol based / soluble, so you are trying to get the best dissolution by using a solvent similar to what they used in the factory... The older, oxidized stuff may need a little persuasion.
chemech Eucalyptus oil is pretty good for goo & varnish (hardened goo) - Cineole is a cyclic ether and it grows on trees.
I myself use Naphtha, it cleans everything if you let it soak a bit. Tho word of warning, do not touch it with bare hands or use it in an un-ventilated environment.
If you follow those 2 simple rules and of course dispose of it properly you will never get dirty finger nails again.
The hardest test i've given to this thing is a friend's 1975 BMW 318 gearbox. The thing had been "refurbished" by its previous owner.
No idea what the stuff inside was but not even soaking it in diesel did it. Left it 2 days and all we did after that was to remove the gunk that was basically metal bits and other crud of the sort left at the bottom of the case. All the surfaces were clean and ready to work on. Oh and you need to shake it.
Ox, for aluminum use Kennametal CCMT insert (size and nr of your choice here) LF chipbreaker in K68 grade. There is no better insert for aluminum on manual lathes.
Hi Malt,
Shoot me a picture of one. You have my interest if its really a CCMT.
Cheers,
Tom
Not much to see, uncoated carbide with a simple chipbreaker but I have found it perfect for low cutting speeds and feeds in aluminum. I run it wet but a mist or brushed on oil would probably work just fine. I like CCMT for its flexibility, I use them in my OD and ID tools in 3/8 and 1/4 ic sizes with a .016 chipbreaker.
Just to continue, it eliminates the stringy chip you were getting with one of those high polished high rake jobs. I only find those work to break the chip if you push them hard.
465maltbie Good point. The high positives are free cutting but with light finishing cuts make longer chips. I will have to see about getting some of the Kennametals you mention. They don't give their stuff away for sure.
Cheers,
Tom
oxtoolco Maritool, good prices and a pkg of 5 rather than the normal 10. www.maritool.com/Indexable-Tooling-Boring-Bars-Boring-Bar-Inserts/c50_142_143/p2276/CCMT09T304LF-K68/product_info.html
Lol... Sticktion? Must be a synonym for Gription... Nice vid!
Hey Jason,
Not to be confused with slipsion. Sub optimal in machinist land.
Cheers,
Tom
No Bozon's came to town on that one
Somebody knocked on the door but I lucked out and it wasn't Mr Bozo.
cheers,
Tom
have you tried carpet tape? that stuff would hold Jesus to the cross
Well if carpet tape holds Jesus to the cross then this stuff holds the cross to the mountain. This is industrial duty tape. Not to be confused with hardware store grade double back tape. It stands up to flood coolant for pretty long time. long enough to get the job done in many cases.
Cheers,
Tom