Comparison of Catholic and Orthodox Liturgical Practices

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  • Comparison of Catholic and Orthodox Liturgical Practices

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  • @patriciadileonardo4620
    @patriciadileonardo4620 3 роки тому +133

    Thank you for this video. We are disabled, elderly and shut in. My beloved husband was raised Catholic and i converted from Baptist. We have found such blessings from your videos since we have no family to look after us. The Russian Orthodox worship is so beautiful, Blessed and sincerely meaningful. I did receive prayer ropes from Mt. Athos with a prayer card in Russian. Some years ago we noticed the Orthodox Christians of the world were under attack by world and other forces. You are in our prayers continually. Love in Christ Jesus

  • @ЈованСавановић-ж4ъ
    @ЈованСавановић-ж4ъ 3 роки тому +151

    19:54 This is how Heaven sounds like. I am litteraly crying how this is beautiful. Greetings from Orthodoxy of Serbia.

  • @robertattaway3119
    @robertattaway3119 5 років тому +119

    I feel bad for my RC brethren. The kind of music being used, even in St. Peter's is one of the reasons I left contemporary evangelical churches. I'm so glad that Christ our God and the Most Holy Theotokos led me into Eastern Orthodoxy. We use the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom, almost every Sunday. With a few exceptions we use the Liturgy of St Basil the Great. We don't change.

  • @anilyousafmasih1464
    @anilyousafmasih1464 4 роки тому +121

    I am a Catholic learning about Orthodoxy for 2years now. Orthodoxy is well preserved and kept in her beauty and sensitivity as one should keep the bride of Christ. Catholic have been astray with Vatican II

  • @davidhenry352
    @davidhenry352 6 років тому +298

    I can't believe they use that kind of music in Vantican too...

  • @craigmouldey2339
    @craigmouldey2339 6 років тому +258

    I don't like to say this but when the example of liturgical music was 'performed' in the Vatican, what immediately came to mind was Moses coming down from the mountain to the sounds of loud music and dancing as the Israelites worshipped the golden calf.
    It also appears they use this band music to stir emotions; an artificial sense of devotion and closeness to God.

  • @Zam0rak41
    @Zam0rak41 6 років тому +322

    I'm not Christian, but the orthodox version seems like a holy experience, whereas the Catholic version seems like a high school musical performance.

    • @OriginalSinner
      @OriginalSinner 5 років тому +43

      Come home to the Faith of God, brother. ☦️

    • @zer0L0
      @zer0L0 5 років тому +34

      Jacob Coughlan the chief mocker being the Pope himself.

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK 4 роки тому +25

      Jacob Coughlan No, it’s Roman Catholicism. Everyone has seen the Pagan ceremonies at the Vatican. Papists worship Pachamama.

  • @longhaulconvert
    @longhaulconvert 9 років тому +272

    Some people might think, well that's Russia and Rome but what about elsewhere? I have been Eastern Orthodox in the United States for 21 years attending non ethnic churches in California and Colorado. The music may be sung in English but the tunes are traditional. The services may be in English but Orthodox Liturgy is the same around the World.

    • @bjoeljones
      @bjoeljones 5 років тому +35

      @Bonnie Johnstone, Well Sayd. Greetings from the Antiochian Eastern Rite. ☦

  • @robertoromanodopradofilho4497
    @robertoromanodopradofilho4497 4 роки тому +183

    As a Catholic, I just do not know what to say. Our practices became profanation of holy sanctuaries, disrespect with God, the Theotokos and the Saints of the Church. We are embarrasing the Martyrs. Its shameful. The past ten years I became more and more identified with Eastern Catholics and Orthodox practices. If not by consciousness crisis, I would long be converted. God Bless the Orthodox Church, from a humble catholic friend.

  • @OriginalSinner
    @OriginalSinner 5 років тому +283

    Rock concert vs. Ancient Liturgy

  • @Thethroneofsaintpeter
    @Thethroneofsaintpeter 7 років тому +177

    Orthodoxy is beautiful

  • @lovefortruth3414
    @lovefortruth3414 4 роки тому +102

    Coming from Pentacostal and charismatic background and having bern to churches of different denominations, I finally found my home in the Orthodox Church. Now don't get me wrong. I do still believe that God has told us through his Word to praise Him with our voices AND instruments. Everything we do and use is to be an exoression of praise and worship. But what has happened with the Western churches, is it's become more of a performance to satisfy the oeople and less of a true expression of our love towards God. It's really sad to see any of the liturgical churches fall into that same trap. There is a place for instruments among God's people. It just should not be during a worship service. I do appreciate, however, that in the Orthodox parishes the Liturgies are sung and chanted in the language of the community of the parish. My Ukrainian Parish is mostly sung in English, but during high holy days, it is sung in both Ukrainian and English....also whenever there are immigrants from Ukrain who don't understand English...then half the Liturgy will be in English and half in Ukrainian. Also, whenever our head priest presides, he reads the Gospel passage in both English and Ukrainian. It's beautiful to have both the traditional language and the language that I understand being used.

  • @_WillemEdwarddeGraal
    @_WillemEdwarddeGraal 5 років тому +158

    As a Roman Catholic follower...i am deeply dissapointed...this is not my Faith...this is not Catholicism...what a heresy. I prefer Orthodoxy, and i fell in love with it.

    • @Garbanzo884
      @Garbanzo884 5 років тому +14

      Today's most common form of Catholic Mass is a joke, a form of PC entertainment and (Anti-(?))Pope Francis is the worst of the bunch.

    • @venrodflorentino1993
      @venrodflorentino1993 5 років тому +19

      Deus Vult right! I’m also a roman catholic but I love the ways of orthodox because the ways of roman catholic nowadays is almost no different than of the protestants..

    • @nebojsaciric4656
      @nebojsaciric4656 5 років тому +15

      So Brother... come back home ! :-)

  • @theticoboy
    @theticoboy 5 років тому +134

    As a Roman Catholic, this is embarrassing. Thanks be to God for the traditional Latin Mass!

  • @Sancte_Benedicte
    @Sancte_Benedicte 4 роки тому +53

    Latins...I'll never understand how you could abandon such a pious reverent liturgy for this village-people-like music masses

  • @Felix-kp7wr
    @Felix-kp7wr 2 роки тому +22

    I'm catholic and I'm always in love with Orthodox liturgy! so close to the ancient christianity.

  • @ZXIN313
    @ZXIN313 2 роки тому +43

    Beautiful Orthodox Mass, as a Muslim. ☦️🤲🏽☪️

  • @despinosasenderos2
    @despinosasenderos2 4 роки тому +21

    I'm a catholic and a musician, and I definitely against that new age heresy that is going on the Catholic Church. The real liturgical music is the gregorian chant, and in the solemnities the works of Palestrina, Cristóbal de Morales, Josquin des Prez and others. For almost all the catholics, the music that you present in the video is similar to destroy the church itself and its holy liturgy. We, orthodox brothers and true catholics, shall pray for the Roman Catholics who do this to the liturgy. God bless you orthodox christian brothers. May Christ our Lord and the Theotokos be with you all.

  • @JaythePandaren
    @JaythePandaren 7 років тому +73

    Christian Orthodox is beautiful.

  • @justanotherlikeyou
    @justanotherlikeyou 7 років тому +25

    May God forgive them that hate us and them that love us. -Liturgy of St. Basil

  • @brentpadgett4253
    @brentpadgett4253 3 роки тому +49

    I am Agnostic, and I even feel the Catholic Church is dead to me. Orthodoxy is a beautiful faith.

  • @vasilii6417
    @vasilii6417 3 роки тому +28

    Wow! Placed back to back these videos show the deep respect and dignity the Orthodox maintain in their worship of the One True God. The importance of tradition cannot be emphasized enough. The beauty of the symbolic movement is not only visually astounding, but the meaning of the each movement takes you to a place nearer to God, from Earth to the Heavenly Kingdom. "O, Lord,...Preserve the fullness of Thy Church. Sanctify those who love the beauty of Thy house; glorify them in return by Thy divine power, and forsake us not who put our hope in Thee." (From the Prayer before the Ambo, at the end of the Liturgy).

  • @user-ce5bw3gf3u
    @user-ce5bw3gf3u 4 роки тому +57

    The Orthodox mass feels and sounds like a heavenly experience. The Catholic mass, a concert. How sad. And it's in the Vatican what's more!! I believe in the Holy Trinity, the Body and Blood of Christ in the Holy Eucharistic , the saints, my Heavenly Mother, miracles, the teachings of Christ, and prayer. The rest is frilly flowery fluff

  • @ES-kq5fh
    @ES-kq5fh 8 років тому +90

    This is not an accurate representation of Roman liturgical practice. Basically every element of what is depicted here can be accurately described as liturgical abuse by any competent liturgist.
    Understandable, but sad, that this would be described as Roman liturgy -- when it is not.

    • @ES-kq5fh
      @ES-kq5fh 8 років тому +15

      +ExVeritateLibertas as hard as it may be to accept or comprehend this, it's actually quite simple: what the pope does as his own person does not necessarily represent what the church does or is. If he is an adulterer, it is not the church which commits adultery. If he teaches error, it is not the church which teaches error. If he commits sacrilege, even, it is not the church who commits it.

    • @thefremddingeguy6058
      @thefremddingeguy6058 7 років тому +22

      "Understandable, but sad, that this would be described as Roman liturgy -- when it is not."
      Sadly, it is the true Roman Catholic Mass, ever since Vatican II. Or, at least what can happen under it.

  • @Harbinger-of9zh
    @Harbinger-of9zh 8 років тому +113

    It kills me, as a life long faithful catholic, to see the Vatican altar defiled with such clearly protestantized liturgical practices... Vatican 2, and seeing its poison fruit (Like the 'catholic mass' shown above) has proved to me that the church of rome really has fallen far. I have been blessed enough to be able to attend the orthodox divine liturgy once in person (I had not felt that close to God since I was a little kid!), and ever since then (and even before that really!) I have felt God call me to the orthodox church. I believe that the fruits of Vatican 2, along with the whole 'charismatic' movement will send souls to Hell, and place countless other souls in peril!

    • @silouanmathew6599
      @silouanmathew6599 8 років тому +27

      +Harbinger 2321
      i was formerly protestant for 28+ years and now a catechumen (someone preparing for Holy Baptism) in the Eastern Orthodox Church. this is my 4th year learning about Eastern Orthodoxy and each year i had to learn to cut away more and more of the errors i picked up in my many years as a protestant. it is a humbling process but it is the _only_ way to acquire the mind of the Church. for a roman catholic, the process can be even more challenging because of the tendency to see superficial similarities when in fact the two are very different faiths.
      the demonic 'charismatic' movement which has been embraced by west today (both protestantism and papism) is a result of the heretic 'filioque' which has abstracted the _hypostasis_ of the Holy Spirit into an impersonal thing.
      briefly, in today's christendom, there are three very different models and two different frameworks.
      read any apologetics on the papacy or protestantism (sola scriptura) and you will see they are filled with the word 'authority'. this word is seldom used in Eastern Orthodoxy and if you encounter it at all, it has a very different meaning.
      WESTERN FRAMEWORK (_authority model_)
      > Protestantism - Bible as authority _over_ the church
      > Papism - Pope as authority _over_ the church
      _contrasted with_
      EASTERN FRAMEWORK (_tradition model_)
      > Eastern Orthodoxy - Holy Tradition as the Living Witness of the Holy Spirit indwelling _within_ the Church
      The only Head of the Orthodox Church is the Lord Himself.
      here is a good Orthodox talk concerning the west's claim to primacy:
      *Papal claims regarding the Apostle Peter and primacy*
      youtube (*dot*) com/watch?v=R-s8v81ZkeU
      *My Exodus From Roman Catholicism* | Bishop Paul de Ballestar
      saintnicodemos (*dot*) org/articles/exodus.php
      please also see the '3 christianity timeline' images i have posted on the below website. (upper right hand side of home page)
      regards,
      theOrthodoxFaith (*dot*) org
      - - -
      _Now _*_WE COMMAND YE_*_, brethren, _*_in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ_*_, that ye _*_WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM EVERY BROTHER_*_ that walketh disorderly, and not _*_AFTER THE TRADITION_*_ which he received of us._ - 2 Thessalonians 3_6
      _'For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos'_ 1 Corinthians 3_4
      _'21Therefore let no man glory in men. _*_For all things are yours; 22Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas [Peter]_*_, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; _*_all are yours_*_; 23And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's'_ - 1 Corinthians 3
      _'Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men'_ - Acts 5_29

    • @orthodoxchurch7466
      @orthodoxchurch7466  8 років тому +33

      +Harbinger 2321 Don't forget to subscribe, you can see many videos mostly about the Orthodox worship. We hope you join the Ark soon.

    • @Harbinger-of9zh
      @Harbinger-of9zh 8 років тому +26

      +Orthodox Church I hope to join the Ark soon, please keep me in your prayers! Already subbed!

    • @mariaxeniaallen
      @mariaxeniaallen 8 років тому +15

      May God bless you & bring you to ORTHODOXIA (TRUE/CORRECT FAITH) & ORTHOPRAXIA (TRUE/CORRECT PRACTICES!) I, too experienced dissatisfaction with the Roman Catholic faith, beginning in my early teens (1970s.) God knew I was looking. I was brought to Orthodoxy in 1984. God knew, of course, much better than I, that I had been searching. God brought you to the well, as He did The Samaritan Woman (who was converted, then converted her family & later they were all martyred in Rome.) Her name is St. Photini (Photini is Greek for Enlightened.) You have begun your journey to The Truth. Many temptations will try to impede you; that's OK. Just remember what The Fathers say: No matter causes you to fall, or no matter how many times you fall, ask God for mercy & help. It will come, not always when & how you want it, however, it will come at the perfect time, as it comes from God (paraphrased.) One last note: Beware of the Ecumenical Orthodox who are willing to sell out to the other religions, Christian denominations & every other religion, including paganism. You have see The Pearl and are reaching for it; do not cast it to "the swine" (to borrow the Biblical metaphor.)

    • @Garbanzo884
      @Garbanzo884 8 років тому +7

      Lex orandi, lex credendi. If you debase your worship, you debase your theology. This Vatican II garbage in the Latin side is why I went to the Melkite side of the house.

  • @冷雾
    @冷雾 7 років тому +111

    Feeling like crying !!! even in the "Parkinson's disease", Patriach still struggles to perform the liturgy piously !!!!

  • @OriginalSinner
    @OriginalSinner 5 років тому +73

    Liberal fun center vs. Apostolic Worship

  • @hmsdemolition8588
    @hmsdemolition8588 4 роки тому +40

    I thought I went to a night club , compared to our correct ways of the worship of our Lord & SAVOIR , ORTHODOX is the true way to worship our LORD GOD YESHUA THE CHRIST ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @badgerp-chanqueen7707
    @badgerp-chanqueen7707 5 років тому +49

    I only saw the Beauty of Orthodoxy.

  • @alinecortes9691
    @alinecortes9691 3 роки тому +22

    I’m Catholic but I would like to become an Orthodox Christian.

  • @александраковальчук-ш3ф

    Is it really catholic church?? It looks like baptist or protestant. I am shocked. And no woman covers her head. 👎Hm. I am confused 😖

    • @GabrielUngacta
      @GabrielUngacta 5 років тому +1

      There is a difference between Christian and Baptist /non-denominational

    • @RMFVG
      @RMFVG 5 років тому +8

      Despues del Concilio Vaticano II la misa cambio para propiciar una mayor cercania con los protestantes. Por eso la ves tan parecida a una misa protestante. Suerte tienes de que los ortodoxos no tengais que sufrir estas herejias.

    • @EstebanAcosta801
      @EstebanAcosta801 5 років тому +13

      Yes, this is the sad result of modernism.

    • @j.arthur2845
      @j.arthur2845 5 років тому +4

      Please read the Word of God using the Spirit of wisdom and ask for His revelation, brother (Ephesians 1:17) read with the context, not every christian woman have to cover their head. It’s based on regional tradition🙌🏻 Jesus bless us and have a great day

    • @justiniand6a788
      @justiniand6a788 5 років тому +4

      @Temesgen Abraha , traditional custom during mass.

  • @onlythetruthnothingbutthet8602
    @onlythetruthnothingbutthet8602 3 роки тому +7

    Beauty, philokalia
    God protect all Orthodox.
    God bless all Orthodox.
    Greetings from Syriac Orthodox from Holland.

  • @LouisLeeKH
    @LouisLeeKH 6 років тому +67

    I can't help laughing when the pop style song appear in the mass of Vatican and the mass was held by the pope !!!
    p.s. I've been a Roman Catholic since 1991 but I've just renounce papacy's wrong dotrines and teachings in my facebook. I will concert to be an Orthodox Christian in the near future.

    • @gustafstrang7191
      @gustafstrang7191 5 років тому +5

      Yes! True orthodox church! Stop praying Mary catholics!

  • @jimmyj6209
    @jimmyj6209 3 роки тому +12

    Though the music in the Roman Catholic uses pop music for accessibility, there are still some high Catholic churches retain the use of solemn music in their liturgy, as someone who has sung in both Anglican and Catholic churches for a few years.

  • @OrthoAutist
    @OrthoAutist 7 років тому +18

    there truly is no comparison between the holy orthodox church and the schismatic Latins

  • @teodorivanov4558
    @teodorivanov4558 2 роки тому +5

    As you see, the Catholic practice is now like the idolaters of old.Only the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Orthodox church is the True church .

  • @theodore8178
    @theodore8178 5 років тому +24

    I'm confused. Those are Catholics not protestants? Is this some sort of editing trick? Francis cut into protestant worship? That cant be the catholic liturgy

    • @TheRealRealOK
      @TheRealRealOK 4 роки тому +6

      Abu Qurrah Well, Protestants and Catholics are related.

  • @guatopo1985
    @guatopo1985 3 роки тому +25

    Seeing this makes me realiz that a unification of both chuches is almost imposible...and unncessary...

  • @thedon978
    @thedon978 5 років тому +7

    It’s not fair! The Orthodox have beauty and sanctity on their side, while we Catholics are stuck with BERGOGLIO, the Confounded!

  • @ericjohnson2965
    @ericjohnson2965 Рік тому +5

    Catholic looks charismatic Orthodox is for real

  • @jcgurl3773
    @jcgurl3773 3 роки тому +6

    I know this video is old but my goodness, what an embarrassment. I converted to the Catholic Church in 2010 and had no idea it was like this. Years later I am now seeing all the holes and I am leaning to the Orthodox because of the sacredness and truth of the early Church. Lord have Mercy, my heart just breaks at how the Catholics seem to like a charismatic Mass full of feelings and define that as worship.

  • @ignatiusl.7478
    @ignatiusl.7478 3 роки тому +6

    Orthodox worship is from heaven, it heals and saves you. This other form is something different.

  • @dikhed1able
    @dikhed1able 4 роки тому +24

    The last couple years I have felt a pull towards orthodoxy and there are three words why, "second vatican council"

  • @ruralsquirrel5158
    @ruralsquirrel5158 4 роки тому +18

    The RCC has gone Southern Baptist. Same thing has happened to the Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc. I say this out of sadness, not some sort of misplaced triumphalism.

  • @stsgoose39
    @stsgoose39 7 років тому +58

    While there are many examples of the secular "pop" style music in use in the Roman Rite, there are very few time when this is used, particularly in Rome with the Pope. If you were to watch any of the liturgies shown on say EWTN throughout the year, you would hear the beautiful Gregorian Chant used throughout. While I admit, and have witnessed firsthand, the beauty of the Divine Liturgy of the Orthodox, there were better examples that could have been used to show the beauty of the Roman Rite as well, in both the ordinary and extraordinary (Tridintine) forms.

  • @kenbilek5944
    @kenbilek5944 8 років тому +57

    Beautiful! But I'll have to give it to the Orthodox. It was Cinematic! Old school in a way. It's like Ancient vs. Modernism. The small Parish that we just started attending feels this way. Even in English it's soothing to the soul! No organ, no music instruments of any kind, and not even a sound system. And it still moves me. Even after 2 to 3 hours of standing!

    • @stefancazacu4131
      @stefancazacu4131 8 років тому +3

      I am orthodox Orthodox liturgies to be something exciting this is all logi respect and spiritual face of the circus that is the Catholic church please reply I want to talk with you

    • @kenbilek5944
      @kenbilek5944 8 років тому +1

      Stefan Cazacu Hello, I haven't checked here in a while. So what's on you mind?

    • @stefancazacu4131
      @stefancazacu4131 8 років тому

      well look I thought I'd discuss it with someone please tell me how is religion orthodox

    • @mariaxeniaallen
      @mariaxeniaallen 8 років тому +11

      You understood it to be "cinematic." The Liturgy is meant to glorify God, commemorate his Crucifiction & Resurrection and to part-take in becoming God-like through Holy Communion (as well as all The Holy Mysteries.) "Cinematic" is secular; Orthodoxy and Liturgy are Divine. That's why it's title is The Divine Liturgy.

    • @stefancazacu4131
      @stefancazacu4131 8 років тому

      +Ken Bilek You are ortodox?

  • @gennarojg3
    @gennarojg3 Рік тому +5

    Much better as Orthodox now. When my great great uncle S. S. Pivs pp XII was on the Papal Throne the Latin Mass with Gregorian chants was the most beautiful.
    Orthodox is magnificent, deeply religious and deeply moving.
    God bless all,
    Dr. G.

  • @infinitobackyard9814
    @infinitobackyard9814 4 роки тому +14

    PRAY FOR US PRAY FOR THE WEST PRAY FOR THE POPE

  • @titusflaviusvespasian5923
    @titusflaviusvespasian5923 4 роки тому +11

    In the beginning I thought the uploader inserted the music until I saw the band. I can't believe it. I visited Novus Ordo (and Traditional Latin Mass) and it was nothing like that. A shame what happened to Catholicism after Vatican II. On the plus side, those who visit a FSSPX chapel do it from the heart, not because there is no other option. What I see in Orthodox Churches (in Germany) be it Russian, Greek, or Aramean, some attendants don't take it seriously, especially younger people and men and women wearing inappropriate clothes (shorts, cleavage, short skirts, tons of makeup etc.)
    Is it better in Orthodox countries?

  • @grugg5353
    @grugg5353 4 роки тому +11

    Is there a name for the song when the patriarch of Tbilisi enters the cathedral it is absolutely transcendently beautiful

  • @jamesmondok8635
    @jamesmondok8635 3 роки тому +19

    I’m a Catholic Priest and fortunately appreciate the Latin Liturgy as well as the Orthodox Liturgy in all it’s fullness. I pray that the Roman Church will answer the great wake up call in the Lord to re-enter the sanctity of the Latin Mass as well as the Divine Liturgy. To my Catholic Brothers and Sisters, hold firm and keep the faith!!! The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back soon to rectify the situation. Hold firm to prayer and fasting in the Lord. One last thing, the music in the Roman Church is “sick”. We don’t need to appeal to anyone young or old. Only to The Lord God and His Son Jesus through the Holy Spirit!!! Amen Fr. James

  • @ES-kq5fh
    @ES-kq5fh 8 років тому +8

    You wouldn't say a dance party at Limelight in New York is Catholic just because the building is Neogothic... In like manner, you can use candlesticks, some robes, a few clerical collars, and a glorious building in Rome for your party with balloons and electric guitars, and it doesn't mean it's Catholic either.

  • @michaelrex6948
    @michaelrex6948 9 років тому +38

    Most of the music used in Novus Ordo Masses is forbidden for use at Mass.
    ...and everyone is supposed to kneel after the Lamb of God.

    • @actusspei6688
      @actusspei6688 7 років тому +12

      Michael Rex , Agreed. It does a great injustice to forsake the Latin mass and the reverence it promotes. Were I live, there is one ONE church built about 12 years ago SOLEY for the Latin mass. It face's to the east, and has kneelers and an alter rail. Latin mass is 4x on Sunday ,once ,sometimes twice each other day of the week. The next closest church that says the Latin mass once each Sunday is 157 miles away. I live on the east coast in a reasonabley large metropolitan area. There are 5 beautiful churches built in the early to late 1800 s . Why was it necessary to build a small red brick " colonial" style church just for the Latin mass ,when numerous exhist? I don't get it.
      However I have noticed more and more people around age 25-50 are sounding thier thoughts and displeasure at the lack of reverence, the loss of communing in Our Father's house. As opposed to the feel of going to Apple Bees or Domino's after soccer.
      Sorry for the long post, I guess the video hit a chord.

  • @znoochy
    @znoochy 4 роки тому +13

    You know it's bad when I, as a Lutheran, is more high-church than the Catholic Church.

  • @alvaroramos7564
    @alvaroramos7564 3 роки тому +4

    Post vatican II liturgy absolutely embarrassing

  • @MrPandenis
    @MrPandenis 3 роки тому +10

    17:34 - catholic worship sounds like Disney cartoon :-)

  • @andreacarminati2610
    @andreacarminati2610 4 роки тому +25

    I'm a traditional catholic. I love orthodox church and I know that our rite (especial with Pope Francis) is in danger.

  • @justint5002
    @justint5002 8 років тому +6

    This is a comparison of Orthodox liturgy and Catholic liturgical abuse. The Catholic Church does not allow such blasphemies to take place in our liturgy, these people acted against the will of the Holy Mother Church and totally disobeyed the rubrics for the Mass. If you want a fair comparison, use a properly celebrated Novus Ordo that is done in full accordance with the rubrics, or use a Tridentine Mass.

    • @alduin69
      @alduin69 7 років тому

      Justin Taubel
      YOOO DUDE WUDDUP YOU ARE A /REL/IC TOO

  • @ragingbull8024
    @ragingbull8024 8 років тому +24

    I hope all Catholic(orthodox)shall united again!

    • @ragingbull8024
      @ragingbull8024 8 років тому

      Razamaniac good!

    • @Razamaniac
      @Razamaniac 8 років тому

      randolfdan lumanas :)

    • @mariaxeniaallen
      @mariaxeniaallen 8 років тому +12

      Dear Sir: We cannot re-unite b/c The West changed the Christian theology. We no longer believe the same. I urge you to study the differences between the RCC & Orthodoxy. There are some ecumenical Orthodox groups out there but they are betraying themselves, Orthodox theology, practices, history, written & oral traditions, and most of all: God. We are not the same when it comes to our theologies. P.S. I'm a former RC & Orthodox since 1984.

    • @Razamaniac
      @Razamaniac 8 років тому +3

      by uniting I mean all become orthodox because of the betrayal pope will commit, in case you were refering to me :P. As elder Ephraim of Arizona said that the oncoming war will bring the end of popeizm and ιslam.

    • @ragingbull8024
      @ragingbull8024 8 років тому

      We are still one bro,because its just an ex communication.(See excommunication)its not an act of separation,its just a limition of each people's action from one another.We're still one.

  • @jjmthree
    @jjmthree 2 роки тому +7

    I was Catholic, now Orthodox. The difference is so much greater than you could imagine. Catholicism is like dry toast, no butter no jam... Just dry stall blasphemous toast.

  • @znoochy
    @znoochy 4 роки тому +13

    I am a Protestant, aiming to become a priest. I can confidently say that even we usually don't have bands playing in our processions and masses. I simply just can't take that Catholic mass seriously. Then again, I'm from a more conservative region, liturgically speaking. I do however miss some of the aspects of both Roman-Catholic and Orthodox masses in our masses. Our masses (if it isn't something really special) feels a bit naked and too focused on one thing, that being the Word. It's absolutely one of the most important aspects of Christianity, but I do think that we really shouldn't focus on one thing, and one thing specifically. Belief in Christ is more than simply reading a Holy Scripture, it goes deeper and with more love and caring than a simple worldly book or piece of paper. I think no Christian tradition necessarily is wrong, but we need to work together for the Greater Good; Salvation. Not through modern pop music and loose liturgical masses, but through Theology, prayer and devotion. The Lord is good and merciful, He recieves all our prayers and looks at our masses and deeds in His honour with happiness and understanding, however they may look. I do, however, believe that He thinks a bit better of the more serious and devoted masses, such as those that the Orthodox Church holds. It was beautiful, and we should all strive to achieve such purity. Believer or not, Christian or anyone else, may God bless you and keep you healthy, now and forever. Amen.

  • @daescumihail335
    @daescumihail335 5 років тому +22

    Ortodoxy is beutiful .

  • @CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg
    @CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg 2 роки тому +14

    The Eastern rite has an amazing liturgy. I am in Awe. The spirit seems to be strong in that church. I cannot say I get the same impression from the Latin rite.

  • @punk3388
    @punk3388 5 років тому +5

    This is only one church but the rest of the catholic churches dont have this kind of music. Let us not generalize. Someday we all be one in Christ.

  • @homewardbound8327
    @homewardbound8327 4 роки тому +6

    *Nice! … Thank you for sharing :)*
    Psalm 150:1-6 "1Praise the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his
    mighty heavens. 2Praise him for his acts of power; praise him for his surpassing
    greatness. 3Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet, praise him with the harp
    and lyre, 4praise him with timbrel and dancing, praise him with the strings and pipe,
    5praise him with the clash of cymbals, praise him with resounding cymbals.
    6 *Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD."*
    If the mass is in Moscow, is it Church Slavonic that is being used? What other
    languages besides Church (old) Slavonic and Koine Greek are used in Eastern
    Orthodox liturgies?
    The R.C.C. Mass[a] shown at the beginning of the video (filmed at a Mass where
    the participants speak Spanish, not sure of the occasion) and the Consecration
    of the Eucharist[b] (eucharist = "to give thanks") is a variation of the Mass called
    the " *Novus Ordo* " (New Order) Rite (1962) It was incorporated during the
    Vatican 2 Council/Synod (1962--1965). Although the taking of Communion in
    the hand and facing the people were used in the very early days of the Christian
    church. RCC use an unleavened communion "wafer" that is taken separately
    from the wine/blood of Christ (or in some cases dipped in the precious blood)
    The Catholic church also uses the:
    1.) *Ambrosian* (aka: "Milanese") *Rite* (4th century … i.e. the 300's AD)
    ……. The Ambrosian (named after St. Ambrose) rite is still used in northern Italy.
    2.) *Byzantine* ("Greek") *Rite* (4th Century, Constantinople)
    …… The Byzantine/Greek rite is still used widely
    3.) *Tridentine* ("Latin") *Rite* (1570, The "Roman rite" - replaced many local rites)
    ….. The Tridentine/Latin rite is gaining in popularity in "Traditional" Catholic circles.
    3.) *Mozarabic* (aka: "Visigothic"/"Hispanic") *Rite* (6th century Spain)
    ……. The Mozarabic rite is still used in Toledo Spain
    a. "Mass" = Divine Liturgy
    b. "Eucharist" = Holy Communion

  • @thereselastname9197
    @thereselastname9197 4 роки тому +4

    The Catholic mass here is Novis Ordo mass from Vatican II where the priest faces the crowd instead of the reverse. The Catholic Traditional Latin Mass the other liturgical form of the mass is the Orthodox version which marries up to what u are seeing here by our Orthodox brothers and sisters.

  • @xd_elta9970
    @xd_elta9970 Рік тому +3

    The Catholic music sound like Protestant 6:30

  • @quasimoto9518
    @quasimoto9518 3 роки тому +4

    orthodox literally gave me goosebumps.

  • @Florida1213
    @Florida1213 6 років тому +7

    What's with the whoopie cushion stick at 8:05? Truly sad!

  • @soare5182
    @soare5182 2 роки тому +3

    They transformed the catholic church into a concert salon. Catholic brothers, please, you supposed to worship the Lord, not entertain the people 😞

  • @vickigranacher3357
    @vickigranacher3357 4 роки тому +3

    As a Catholic, I have a big issue with liturgical music in the Mass becoming a "performance

  • @joannagrimeki7415
    @joannagrimeki7415 5 років тому +27

    the Orthodox-Liturgy looks divine,the Catholic-Liturgy like circus.

  • @somename840
    @somename840 3 роки тому +2

    The Catholics treat the liturgy like it’s a concert or a show. What a shame.

  • @firasjawjad436
    @firasjawjad436 2 роки тому +6

    2:17 8:23 12:12 19:28 beautiful

  • @Felix_Effex
    @Felix_Effex Рік тому +3

    I pray, God blesses us all.
    Kirill has a beautiful voice. The last segment was quite moving.

  • @gilderrick8618
    @gilderrick8618 8 років тому +62

    This was an unfair comparison you should have used the tridentine mas for the Catholic.

    • @orthodoxchurch7466
      @orthodoxchurch7466  8 років тому +30

      Novus Ordo is the most served Mass in Rome.

    • @gilderrick8618
      @gilderrick8618 8 років тому +12

      +Orthodox Church However it does not hold the true Catholic liturgy. It is very prone to liturgical abuses.

    • @orthodoxchurch7466
      @orthodoxchurch7466  8 років тому +32

      Gil Derrick At Vatican II, only 4 bishops voted against Novus Ordo, 2100 something were in favor. That is Roman Mass now. Also if you have problem with Novus Ordo, you should complain to Vatican, not us here.

    • @gilderrick8618
      @gilderrick8618 8 років тому +9

      +Orthodox Church Im not here to complain about the novus ordo im here to complain about the unfair comparison between the Catholic and Orthodox liturgy. there are some novus ordo mass that dont have abuses in the liturgy.

    • @orthodoxchurch7466
      @orthodoxchurch7466  8 років тому +30

      Gil Derrick This mass is served by the pope, he is infallible, so is his mass without abuse.

  • @allandunn1431
    @allandunn1431 2 роки тому +2

    Come on, it's not a competition.
    However Orthodox clearly won, by a country mile 🙏

  • @captainSkyyyyy
    @captainSkyyyyy Рік тому +1

    I must say that Roman Catholics still use their majestic liturgical music (Palestrina and so on..) during some ceremonies, at least they did it couple years ago.. nevertheless the filioque and all other heresies are still there, whatever music they may use...

  • @giomenprobertalayon9504
    @giomenprobertalayon9504 3 роки тому +4

    I love both the East and West Churches. And I pray to Mary, the Theotokos, to intercede in our fervent prayers for the grace of Christian Unity before the Blessed Trinity. But this comparison is biased. We Catholics also have Sacred Traditions which is sadly not practiced by most of our clergy and is even suppressed by them due to modernism. For instance, we have Gregorian chant as sacred music incorporated in the Tridentine Mass. Thanks to Pope Benedict XVI's motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, a revival of the Traditional Latin Mass has been permitted to every parish. I encourage you, our Orthodox brethren to pray for us, your Latin brothers and sisters that we too would rediscover and appreciate the beauty of sacred music and liturgy such as what this video presents. Such beauty aids to prepare the proper disposition of the faithful to receive the graces made available to us through sacraments. May Mother Mary keep our Churches close to each other as she is close to Jesus. Amen.

  • @justinjanecka3203
    @justinjanecka3203 2 роки тому +2

    The Mass is not a television show and I hope we get a Pope that understands that.

  • @mtalk828
    @mtalk828 2 роки тому +2

    😔 *It saddens me to see the Church becoming more secularized.*

  • @gladwinjoseph2
    @gladwinjoseph2 6 років тому +9

    R.i.p Catholic church

  • @toussaintmary
    @toussaintmary 3 роки тому +2

    my dear brothers and sisters in Christ, Peace be with you. thank you for taking the time to show all the world the best and the worst that the two great faith traditions Christendom has to offer. its difficult for me to comprehend the Orthodox church having a reformed liturgy like the one we have in the west that comes to us from the second vatican council , also referred to as the Novus Ordo. id like to think that if the comparison was shown with the Trinitine Rite or the Byzantine Rite that the audience would perhaps see two healthy lungs crying out Abba Father, rather then making a mockery of the divinity and reverence that is due to our God. but as it stands, it is hard to defend such blasphemy like we witness from the vatican. may The Lord have mercy on us. and may the Lord continue to bless my Orthodox brothers and sisters for you truly convey the depth, breadth, wisdom and mercy the God of all consolation expects from his redeemed. Most Holy Theotokos, pray for us.

  • @CrusaderofGodEditz
    @CrusaderofGodEditz 9 місяців тому +2

    As a Catholic myself, the Traditional Latin Rite mass is the closest to Orthodox liturgy (in my opinion). Peace be with our Orthodox brothers!

  • @agiosathanasios2345
    @agiosathanasios2345 5 років тому +4

    For me, Roman Catholic is not more than a missing patriarchate among other patriarchates. She cannot be compared with Orthodox church as a whole, but more likely compared with one of the patriarchates, like Constantinople or Antioch.

  • @orochigold2529
    @orochigold2529 8 років тому +11

    Слава Боже! Слава РПЦ!

  • @hammerheadms
    @hammerheadms 3 роки тому +2

    As a Catholic, the loss of tradition is a great tragedy to me. Pope Francis is actually not a good standard by which to measure what the Catholic church represents. He has exacerbated an already big problem. The heresy of modernity is a plague that has fomented a sense of universalism in much of the clergy and laity. As it stands, my family and I no longer attend the Novis Ordo mass. Instead we will only attend traditional liturgies like the Tridentine Ordo Missae, or our preferred Ruthenian Devine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.... And before anyone asks, no I will not renounce my faith, but thank you for your charitable consideration. I pray that ALL Christians return to their roots, and that means Christ's holy church becomes one again. God willing, of course. May the peace of Christ be with you, all my Orthodox brethren.

  • @otelders
    @otelders 4 роки тому +6

    God bless!

  • @dion8306
    @dion8306 4 роки тому +7

    Orthodox is real, *non political* and beautiful

  • @hectordanielsanchezcobo7339
    @hectordanielsanchezcobo7339 4 роки тому +4

    That Angus Dei was so cringy

  • @kaiseruhl
    @kaiseruhl 9 років тому +3

    I've watched a couple Catholic vs Orthodox comparisons that you've posted. A possible idea for a future video is the comparison about how the Creed is chanted. To my knowledge, none of your videos have covered that thus far.

    • @WinnieDaou
      @WinnieDaou 9 років тому +1

      +oclonenovela In ACROD it is chanted. There's a video in Portuguese on UA-cam.

    • @mariaxeniaallen
      @mariaxeniaallen 8 років тому +6

      Correction: The Russians have a tradition of chanting The Creed.

    • @mariaxeniaallen
      @mariaxeniaallen 8 років тому +1

      If you want to understand The Nicene Creed vs. the RCC version, study the Filioque and how the iota changed the entire Trinity. The West got it wrong.

  • @occhio506
    @occhio506 Рік тому +2

    Dovreste farlo con i video delle messe risalenti a prima del Concilio Ecumenico Vaticano II oppure con i video dei cattolici tradizionalisti che continuano a usare la messa vetus ordo (tridentina)

  • @karenbartlett1307
    @karenbartlett1307 4 роки тому +6

    I felt the Holy Spirit when the Patriarch entered the Church. I felt nothing when the Pope entered the church.

  • @alveymodel
    @alveymodel 3 роки тому +3

    This would never or barely happen with Pope Benedict. I miss Pope Benedict.

  • @jstnn_jgs
    @jstnn_jgs 2 роки тому +2

    Revert the Second Vatican Council back to Traditional Catholicism 🙏🏻

  • @panayiotaalexopoulos2396
    @panayiotaalexopoulos2396 3 роки тому +4

    ORTHODOXY IS ELITE

  • @dianeduquette6368
    @dianeduquette6368 2 роки тому +2

    Orthodox is beautiful I'm Roman Catholic but I think in my heart I'm orthodox.

  • @Amanda23Priscilla
    @Amanda23Priscilla 5 років тому +7

    Had no idea catholic liturgy was like this!!!

  • @woollygoat8921
    @woollygoat8921 2 роки тому +2

    I am ready to renounce this Antipope Francis.
    How do I become an Orthodox Catholic?

  • @user-vz1so5dt2t
    @user-vz1so5dt2t 3 роки тому +2

    Roman Catholic✝️💞Orthodox Catholic☦️
    We're both Catholic💖