Ahmer and Osman Bhai...please keep this podcast going for as long as possible. This podcast is like therapy for us ..without all the toxicity that we see in the media! God bless you 🙏
Im so glad you spoke abt our players in leagues, Ahmer! You're right on the money here. I feel very strongly about this (in favor of players' right to earn from those leagues). Excuse my mini-rant here, but Im furious (jaise main koi khud union leader houn lol) at the punishment wala attitude of the PCB as you right identify it. Our players cant do IPL which is mega bucks and a player can be one-and-done if one had a lucrative gig like IPL (even so, Pat Cummins has a 3 yr MLC contract starting this yr despite his IPL money). So unko yehi tiddi un-prestigious leagues ki opportunist milti hai.... khelnay do bhai... 3 players hain... let them play and earn a halal living. Pakistan ki economy dekhain, is it fair at all to prevent someone from earning a living in these times? I find it SUPER unfair. Main dharna denay ke liye tayyar houn ke PCB tameez keray thori si. Badmashi phelayee huee hai. Pakistan's losses are due to bad mgt decisions and selection decisions. Who made Babar captain again? Was his recent captaincy a surprise for us? Nope. We saw the writing on the wall and yet we are now punishing players based on this performance. PCB picked him as captain and half-selector and destroyed the dressing room. They should take accountability themselves first before preventing players from playing in leagues.
I want to get your honest take on these 90s ke legends. Why are we still stuck on these same old babay yaar as if they conquered world cricket. Yes they were talented but they performed way below their potential in major ICC tournaments too. 92 World Cup bhi Waise hi jeete thay jaise pechle t20 ke final main pohonche thay - relying on other teams results. For me the core reason for our performance is involving these 90s ke babay in coaching / management. There is an interview of M Yusuf when he was U-19 coach. He was asked how youngsters can be taught power hitting and his response was “Saeed Anwar was the fastest player in our time and he never did power hitting so why do we think we need to teach power hitting”. Yeh tou mentality hai. Now compare to Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble, Agarkar, and Gambhir and imagine them saying something similar. Rant over.
Ahmer and Osman- i came here excited to see ur podcast but i just got so sad hearing all about PCB and the everything. I wish you guys had talked about the list mentioned at the end. That way i’d be going to sleep a lot less sad. Having said glad u guys are back with the pod
Pakistan IS playing Australia this year, tour of 6 white ball matches down under in November. Also, far be it from me to tell you guys what to talk about but if you ever get the chance, could we get a podcast on the Wasim Khan tenure? How it started, how he fared, the ups and downs, successes failures and finally why he was removed? Seems like he was the best guy for the job in ages but never got a fair shake, would love to listen to a retrospective if possible
I fear Mohsin Naqvi's reign of terror will explode in devastating fashion for cricket as a whole in Pakistan. These restrictions on the players will lead to someone - Shaheen? - striking out whilst Babar, the captain who owes his job to Naqvi, stays silent and becomes the pro establishment support. Also, in the name of Batta Fast can we get on Arshad Nadeem who broke a damn Olympic record throwing a javelin at quick speed and brought home the gold 🏅 Also, I love Osman bhai t-shirt as it sums up my daily battery level 👌🏽
You are forgetting the fact that the last time we won a test match in aus was 20 years ago or something. If what you are saying was a deciding factor, babar shouldn't be a captain either
Plz interview Hassan Cheema, PCT data analyst. He is wonderful to listen to. Ahmer sahb plz you could do it. Hassan Cheema has gone under ground since becoming part of PCB selection committee.
Ahmer and Osman bhais, you guys recognise that Pakistan is approaching its busiest schedule in years but still criticise the curtailing of noc. I think pcb has been consistent in its communication regarding this. gillespie in his interview to Danyal also corroborated this.
You guys exaggerate too much.. often it's funny and enjoyable but to say shaheen as all time great.. this was just full toss waiting to be hit out of the park.. bus karden bhai..the guy does not even merit a place in the side right now on current form.. and he's been down since he's had surgery.. should go back to first class and get his rhythm back as he's only one trick pony now. First over and every team has figured him out.
While you have a point about rain, everything else about tape ball cricket will end up same as hard ball cricket if it takes off. The powers to be will take over that as well. The problem is organizational, not the idiosyncrasies of the sport.
You either die a sane Pakistan cricket fan or live long enough to become a Yaiyaa uncle. That’s Ahmer now with all this negativity and absolutely bottom tier vibes. Cheer up a little, man.
PCB has definitely messed up the potential of PSL. Instead of letting India (and the ICC) dictate and ruin our international cricket involvement, I say PCB should just withdraw from the ICC voluntarily. May sound extreme but if revenue is the goal then just focus on and expand the PSL. We have a market of 240 million people. Hell, PSL could provide the much needed impetus for infrastructure such as public transit (trains, buses), stadiums, etc. I say follow the American baseball model. Major league, minor league, merchandizing, local heroes, stat obsession, batting cages, film, TV. The opportunities are fucking endless. Also why the fuck doesn’t Karachi have more than one team? Can’t believe they’ve fucked it up this bad.
You say 11 countries playing cricket, there will be some countries that look at the way Pak, Bang, SL handle their cricket and post LA 2028 say, bet. I totally see the European teams like Belgium/Spain/Germany getting into it in a couple of cycles, just like they did in hockey.
i think ahmer copletely missed the point, everyone in Pakistan harps on about being an aggressive captain so it was indeed a big statement against babar
Ummmm not sure when I heard ppl asking for aggressive captaincy in Pakistan. Everyone always wants slow batting wickets in hand which is why Babar Riz are unmovable.
@@BattaFast everyone talks about it, dilair kaptaan, nidar kaptaan so Amir Jamal calling him defensive is going way off script no one will see that as a positive statement. Especially when he doubles down with Shan fights fire with fire
Naseem Shah is literally twice the bowler then shaheen ever was! don't disrespect the term ATG by associating it with a highly mid ass bowler like shaheen. 🐍
Hahaha so much fun. In a not so dystopian Pakistani world: The board and the old guard of Pakistan cricket criticise Napoleon for being too damn offensive in his mindset to be a long term wicket keeper batsman for Pakistan. He ought to slow down on his war cries a bit. 😂
Babar has taken a big ass dump on shaheen and his naswari sasur duckridi's entire lobbying, grouping and their toxic politics in the team. Poor snake will keep on living under Babar's unmatched aura and his shadow untill the very end.
Ahmer Naqvi and Osman Samiuddin aik show Arshad Nadeem pe bhi karein Glory Hai isko enjoy Karna is pe Baat Karna banta Hai aap dono is pe aik show karein
I often feel Players should have a Players association. Unionize now. Like the Aussies have an association looking after players' interests and negotiating for their best with CA. "contract" violations by PCB are a dime a dozen. Har new Chief overrides the existing players contracts, with zero legal recourse open to players. Thats why they resort to these stupid media PR games and journo agenda games to have some leverage in this Hobbesian world of PCB. Rant over. Sorry mujhe dil halka kerna tha, coz Im watching the Canada league and I watched MLC...LOVED that Haris Rauf shared the dressing room with Pat Cummins - shayad koi do anay ki cheez hi seekh li hogi Raufster ne. He was largely wicketless but bowled some good, tight overs there in a few matches. We need our players to get exposure. ok now pakka rant over.
Without being centrally contacted there is less likelihood of playing for pakistan and if they dont get to play pakistan, there is highly unlikely they will have any brand / cricketing value to be selected for the two franchises to be able to make twice the money as centrally contracted player as you put it. So the argument is a bit flawed. The guys are getting paid shit loads of money.. they need to priortize country. You cant compare their contract value to australia or other country. Benchmarking always takes into account cost of living/gdp of the country.. it normalises the contract value's from each country before you use it for comparison.
Ahmer and Osman Bhai...please keep this podcast going for as long as possible. This podcast is like therapy for us ..without all the toxicity that we see in the media! God bless you 🙏
Im so glad you spoke abt our players in leagues, Ahmer! You're right on the money here. I feel very strongly about this (in favor of players' right to earn from those leagues). Excuse my mini-rant here, but Im furious (jaise main koi khud union leader houn lol) at the punishment wala attitude of the PCB as you right identify it. Our players cant do IPL which is mega bucks and a player can be one-and-done if one had a lucrative gig like IPL (even so, Pat Cummins has a 3 yr MLC contract starting this yr despite his IPL money). So unko yehi tiddi un-prestigious leagues ki opportunist milti hai.... khelnay do bhai... 3 players hain... let them play and earn a halal living. Pakistan ki economy dekhain, is it fair at all to prevent someone from earning a living in these times? I find it SUPER unfair. Main dharna denay ke liye tayyar houn ke PCB tameez keray thori si. Badmashi phelayee huee hai. Pakistan's losses are due to bad mgt decisions and selection decisions. Who made Babar captain again? Was his recent captaincy a surprise for us? Nope. We saw the writing on the wall and yet we are now punishing players based on this performance. PCB picked him as captain and half-selector and destroyed the dressing room. They should take accountability themselves first before preventing players from playing in leagues.
I want to get your honest take on these 90s ke legends. Why are we still stuck on these same old babay yaar as if they conquered world cricket. Yes they were talented but they performed way below their potential in major ICC tournaments too. 92 World Cup bhi Waise hi jeete thay jaise pechle t20 ke final main pohonche thay - relying on other teams results.
For me the core reason for our performance is involving these 90s ke babay in coaching / management. There is an interview of M Yusuf when he was U-19 coach. He was asked how youngsters can be taught power hitting and his response was “Saeed Anwar was the fastest player in our time and he never did power hitting so why do we think we need to teach power hitting”. Yeh tou mentality hai. Now compare to Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble, Agarkar, and Gambhir and imagine them saying something similar.
Rant over.
As a PCT fan, you can just end all the podcasts/discussions with "aur b dukh hain zamaane mein mohabat k siva."
Ahmer and Osman- i came here excited to see ur podcast but i just got so sad hearing all about PCB and the everything. I wish you guys had talked about the list mentioned at the end. That way i’d be going to sleep a lot less sad. Having said glad u guys are back with the pod
Sorry dear
Pakistan IS playing Australia this year, tour of 6 white ball matches down under in November.
Also, far be it from me to tell you guys what to talk about but if you ever get the chance, could we get a podcast on the Wasim Khan tenure? How it started, how he fared, the ups and downs, successes failures and finally why he was removed?
Seems like he was the best guy for the job in ages but never got a fair shake, would love to listen to a retrospective if possible
I fear Mohsin Naqvi's reign of terror will explode in devastating fashion for cricket as a whole in Pakistan. These restrictions on the players will lead to someone - Shaheen? - striking out whilst Babar, the captain who owes his job to Naqvi, stays silent and becomes the pro establishment support.
Also, in the name of Batta Fast can we get on Arshad Nadeem who broke a damn Olympic record throwing a javelin at quick speed and brought home the gold 🏅
Also, I love Osman bhai t-shirt as it sums up my daily battery level 👌🏽
Not making Shan Masood the captain in all formats after what he did in Aus is the most smooth brained decision taken by pcb
You are forgetting the fact that the last time we won a test match in aus was 20 years ago or something. If what you are saying was a deciding factor, babar shouldn't be a captain either
Plz interview Hassan Cheema, PCT data analyst. He is wonderful to listen to. Ahmer sahb plz you could do it. Hassan Cheema has gone under ground since becoming part of PCB selection committee.
He’s my neighbour he got married a year ago , he’s enjoying life . He comes from a wealthy family he doesn’t really need to work
I think you should do a podcast on Arshad Nadeem.
Ahmer and Osman bhais, you guys recognise that Pakistan is approaching its busiest schedule in years but still criticise the curtailing of noc. I think pcb has been consistent in its communication regarding this. gillespie in his interview to Danyal also corroborated this.
You guys exaggerate too much.. often it's funny and enjoyable but to say shaheen as all time great.. this was just full toss waiting to be hit out of the park.. bus karden bhai..the guy does not even merit a place in the side right now on current form.. and he's been down since he's had surgery.. should go back to first class and get his rhythm back as he's only one trick pony now. First over and every team has figured him out.
I think you skipped that we need to go to Australia in October-ish
While you have a point about rain, everything else about tape ball cricket will end up same as hard ball cricket if it takes off. The powers to be will take over that as well.
The problem is organizational, not the idiosyncrasies of the sport.
You either die a sane Pakistan cricket fan or live long enough to become a Yaiyaa uncle. That’s Ahmer now with all this negativity and absolutely bottom tier vibes. Cheer up a little, man.
PCB has definitely messed up the potential of PSL. Instead of letting India (and the ICC) dictate and ruin our international cricket involvement, I say PCB should just withdraw from the ICC voluntarily. May sound extreme but if revenue is the goal then just focus on and expand the PSL. We have a market of 240 million people. Hell, PSL could provide the much needed impetus for infrastructure such as public transit (trains, buses), stadiums, etc. I say follow the American baseball model. Major league, minor league, merchandizing, local heroes, stat obsession, batting cages, film, TV. The opportunities are fucking endless. Also why the fuck doesn’t Karachi have more than one team? Can’t believe they’ve fucked it up this bad.
You say 11 countries playing cricket, there will be some countries that look at the way Pak, Bang, SL handle their cricket and post LA 2028 say, bet.
I totally see the European teams like Belgium/Spain/Germany getting into it in a couple of cycles, just like they did in hockey.
Last part 😂😂😂😂
Just to mention, Pakistan is also going for a white ball tour to Australia in November. 3 ODis and 3T20s.
Too many ads bro
i think ahmer copletely missed the point, everyone in Pakistan harps on about being an aggressive captain so it was indeed a big statement against babar
Ummmm not sure when I heard ppl asking for aggressive captaincy in Pakistan. Everyone always wants slow batting wickets in hand which is why Babar Riz are unmovable.
@@BattaFast everyone talks about it, dilair kaptaan, nidar kaptaan so Amir Jamal calling him defensive is going way off script no one will see that as a positive statement. Especially when he doubles down with Shan fights fire with fire
@@BattaFast I want aggressive captaincy!🙋🏾♀ Liven up the pitches, unleash the bowlers and batters gotta learn to bat better I guess.
Please Please Please PLEASEEEEEEEEE do a show about Arshad Nadeeem
Naseem Shah is literally twice the bowler then shaheen ever was! don't disrespect the term ATG by associating it with a highly mid ass bowler like shaheen. 🐍
Hahaha so much fun.
In a not so dystopian Pakistani world:
The board and the old guard of Pakistan cricket criticise Napoleon for being too damn offensive in his mindset to be a long term wicket keeper batsman for Pakistan. He ought to slow down on his war cries a bit.
😂
Babar has taken a big ass dump on shaheen and his naswari sasur duckridi's entire lobbying, grouping and their toxic politics in the team. Poor snake will keep on living under Babar's unmatched aura and his shadow untill the very end.
where's my ghani glass jersey?
After you post a picture of their logo tattooed on you
Ahmer Naqvi and Osman Samiuddin aik show Arshad Nadeem pe bhi karein Glory Hai isko enjoy Karna is pe Baat Karna banta Hai aap dono is pe aik show karein
I often feel Players should have a Players association. Unionize now. Like the Aussies have an association looking after players' interests and negotiating for their best with CA. "contract" violations by PCB are a dime a dozen. Har new Chief overrides the existing players contracts, with zero legal recourse open to players. Thats why they resort to these stupid media PR games and journo agenda games to have some leverage in this Hobbesian world of PCB. Rant over. Sorry mujhe dil halka kerna tha, coz Im watching the Canada league and I watched MLC...LOVED that Haris Rauf shared the dressing room with Pat Cummins - shayad koi do anay ki cheez hi seekh li hogi Raufster ne. He was largely wicketless but bowled some good, tight overs there in a few matches. We need our players to get exposure. ok now pakka rant over.
the funniest joke of this month is that "shaheen is all time great" 😭😭😭 even his sasur won't agree on that brain fart statement coming from u guys!
i think you guys are reading into the lines too much.
Ahmer ne aik dafa bola tha , Pakistan salvador se har jaye ga aour USA se haar gya
Without being centrally contacted there is less likelihood of playing for pakistan and if they dont get to play pakistan, there is highly unlikely they will have any brand / cricketing value to be selected for the two franchises to be able to make twice the money as centrally contracted player as you put it. So the argument is a bit flawed.
The guys are getting paid shit loads of money.. they need to priortize country. You cant compare their contract value to australia or other country. Benchmarking always takes into account cost of living/gdp of the country.. it normalises the contract value's from each country before you use it for comparison.