Is this a Kelly Gang gun? | 7.30
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2023
- An antique gun collector near Brisbane believes he's acquired a gun used by Ned Kelly's infamous gang.
Stephanie Zillman decided to take a look.
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"it will never leave our family"- **mandarin noises from Canberra**
Please document this lovely historical item in detail with as much information as possible as how many times I've seen something like this get seized and sawn in half. Even if it's legitimate.
*@**4:54** Linear marks on stock appear to be offset opposing triangles consistent with handset saw teeth, as if someone had contemplated shortening the stock to a handle but never completing the task.*
@@1nvisible1 thank you that's very interesting. Always like it when you boys join the chat. I might have an interest in items like this but I do love the historical value. What you have mentioned is rather concerning.
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Those carbines were dangerous to the person firing them, if they supported the barrel with the left hand and the shot resulted in a chain fire, not uncommon with cap and ball revolvers. That is why Colt dumped them.
This appears to be mostly myth.
Chain fires were almost exclusively caused by careless operation and improper handling. I’m not saying they couldn’t happen or weren’t dangerous but cap and ball revolvers can’t be mentioned without someone bringing up chain fires.
Certainly played little role in why they stopped being manufactured.
@Jay22222 well, the invention of the cartridge did it,like with the revolvers. But chain firing must have been caused by improper loading, especially under the stress of battle. Cap and ball reloading is almost a science, compared to just replacing cartridges
These Colt revolving rifles and shotguns were very reliable with Colt factory manufactured nitrated paper cartridges. The rifle cartridges were always loaded with a long conical bullet which sealed the bore perfectly. Chain fire was far more likely to happen with unpatched round ball loads packed over an excessively overloaded chamber. Civil War logistics often resulted in troops getting and receiving the wrong ammunition which was not compatible with the Colt.
@@christosacholos1082
It’s only a “science” in that you need to know what does and doesn’t cause it.
Which is almost wholly down to the equipment you’re using such as
The projectile, Powder, caps and other items of preference like patches etc.
Ie; things that almost certainly cannot be affected by “the heat of battle”
Unless you completely goofed up and managed to load powder after your projectile in multiple chambers or something which is a scenario SO absurd and SO far removed from the original claim that these revolvers ‘died out’ due to the extreme hazards of chain fire (how they managed to become one of the most ubiquitous revolvers of not just the period but of small arms and that they were fielded by militaries the world over.) in the first place when they were supposedly ‘taking no hostages’, especially not fingers, is beyond me.
Not to mention I believe that colt had a conical chamber into which a wax paper ‘cartridge’ containing powder and projectile. It just dropped in and would be seated with some pressure so now you’ve got the correct powder and projectile AND a robust paper protection from chain fire.
I’d love the guy in this video who’s got a house wall to wall full of Colt revolvers. Ay. (and appears to still have all 11 fingers, Ay.) to chime in. Ay. Could really set the record straight Ay.
(Those were the only marks I ever got in school Ay. Straight Ay’s)
(And I guess the permanent imprint of a woman’s garter indented into my right wrist Ay.)
(I know I’m having a bit of a laugh at his expense but he’s about as qualified as anyone to set the record straight about this chain-fire garbage.)
Not that it hasn’t been set straight by experts left and right for 150 years.
I wish people would think about their claims for a second.
The further back in time you go, yes safety is often less restricted but people weren’t imbeciles.
They’re not going to buy a revolver if it’s taken a hand off everyone they know who’s bought one. Ludicrous.
@@christosacholos1082 I replied to you but I 100% agree with everything you’ve said other than the heat of battle thing.
It would definitely make reloading 1000x more difficult but provided you were using your own kit of properly selected and sized components, compatible with your own revolver I can’t see it making a chain fire scenario all that much more likely
No one will ever know the truth. Same type of thing for any famous item. Things just weren't catalogued or anything back them.
Records show that the priest ran in along with at least one other trooper and they brought out the body of Joe Burn - could they also have brought out this and/or other weapons?
Hmm intriguing. Ned Kelly. The original Iron Man.
Ay, yeah, ay. Seems like a generous bloke.
Ay
Foind a Spencer Carbine, the kellys had two.
Mr Kelly's revolver.
SUCH IS LIFE
He never said it.
@@cougarsorwhat I wasn't there and neither were you but that's what they believed he said
@@cougarsorwhatthat's what they said they heard him day and I agree with other guy. You were not there !
Sorry heard him say
Anyone else got a kelly gun??
I've got a kelly kettle...
Nah,
ah
Hope it's a fake
a
boomers.
I'm surprised they don't sound like hill billies and have seppo flags.
Because you have a brain the size of a pea