Why Is Australia Deporting So Many Kiwis? | Foreign Correspondent
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Australia is detaining, cuffing and deporting more New Zealanders than any other group. Guest reporter Peter FitzSimons finds it’s riling Kiwis and straining relations across The Ditch. Is this how we treat an old mate?
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This film totally downplays the crimes committed and presents these guys as victims.
well said, thats abc and fitzsimmons for you. no empathy for victims of crime
I'm a kiwi,if you wish to live in aussie then abide by there rules simple
👍😎👍💯%
Anywhere in the world, any country for that matter.
Connie Archer ummm no you’re not welcome anywhere sorry.
Same rules should apply to Australians living in NZ???
Including ones who are judged “bad character “.
Peter Dutton is on a power trip!!
The motor cycle guy didn’t brake any laws. Membership is not illegal.
The point is that „bad character“ is way too loose a phrasing for my legal sensibilities.
Also: shouldn’t family connections be also considered? Otherwise you end up separating families.
As a Kiwi living in Hawaii I don't see a deportation issue. If you break the law, you pay the price.
Australia doesn't hv to abide by anyone else's rules. It's called the right of sovereignty.
The Anzac pact is fragile and non-binding and, as such, should not be held up as some kind of privileged protection.
Canada and the USA, while sharing the friendliest border
respect each other's sovereignty!
E tu e hoa me te kaha me te pono!
This is a poor article. There have been kiwis deported over parking fines, instead you use a domestic violence case....
@@jessedanielryder proof?
How do the Hawaiians feel about being under Americans in their own country
Every year thousands gather for Anzac day
@@bonturner4942 well they like the financial support and many other things I'm pretty sure they wouldn't what less money involved in there ways of life
He got in trouble for a domestic violence case...him being deported back to his home country seems reasonable. If he was still allowed to live in Australia, it would just cause more stress on his victims, as they would always live in fear. I really don't feel sorry for him, I'm sure he'll manage himself fine in NZ.
How about the Africans who made troubles in Melbourne and other states of Aussie? They should be deported back to Africa as the other nationalities..it's fair enough I guess👍🏼
@@joshtovo7636 100%. All offenders sent back
It wouldn't cause stress on his victims if they said they reconciled. They were under the influence as well so that's the failure of local authorities that didn't put them into rehab and let things escalate.
@@loco_tom Always someone else's fault. Does anyone take personal responsibility anymore
Where would you send the Australian citizens who are involved in same kind of domestic violence? Britain? your stress related argument is so dumb.
All countries should adopt the Australian method
Yes they should.
Moral of story......if you've been in Australia for 4 years or more and want to stay because you consider it your home, get your citizenship.
citizenship should be earned
Perhaps it's expensive
Tried that as a kiwi living in Australia, refused. My sister was a nurse for Queensland health, a government organization even she couldn't get citizenship. I voluntarily deported myself back to New Zealand. Best decision I made
its way too expensive! 1st you have to pay to be PERMANENT RESIDENTS, we have been here 14 years and are not classed YET as permanent residents by the government. 2nd you then have to pay to become CITIZENS which is quite a lot of money.
fred morrison and that's a big reason why. Many other nations are taking just about anybody.
Good on Aussie! If only the NZ govt had the same views. I wonder how many Kiwis living in Aussie are thinking twice now about breaking the law! Sounds like a great deterent to me!
@Skull903 Fam agree...once he's served his pathetic sentence.
"Just gave her a backhander".That's right mate, minimise your actions. I think your wife is better off without you.
And FitzSimons downplaying a wife beaters actions because they were iced up....shame on FITZ!
And so will the country be.
I'm finding it EXTREMELY difficult to feel sorry for any of these deportees. They are involved in gangs, drugs and violence. They are not innocent victims.
Oh I know. And white Australian's are fucking perfect. Right?
@@Blackheathenly But New Zealanders are on another level.
@@Blackheathenly Listen, countries can have their own rules, get it? This has FA to do with aussies trying to say they're bloody perfect. If you were not so racially motivated, which you're the one who brought up the subject, you'd understand that like ALL countries we've got enough problem with dealing with our own crims.
As usual there's what seems to be a racist lecturing on raciism....because it has nothingto do with where they're from & EVERYTHING to do with not suffering it.
That Arden can say what she likes, but she's a neo Marxist who thinks she control peoples thougjts on a wide range of woke goobledegook & now we've got the same type of 'leader' who is going to put a load of jihadi brides into suburban area's & other aussies who have legally & patiently waited for housing etc & will go to end of line to let these.... known viciously dangerous criminals get these desperately needed places & be taken care of via the Australian tax payers.
People like you just think everythingis a fantasy world & when you dont agree with things you pull the race card.
You, my dear, are the bloody racis,t at worst, or pig ignorant at best.
Jog on & stop being a hypocritical race baiter.
Yeah stupid kiwi good job fulla tattoos ugly good on aussie 👍
@@Blackheathenly wow see now your not stupid after all
It’s like this sunshine no one said anyone is perfect we just said if you don’t like our laws F off. Or build a wall make New Zealand pay for it
I’m a Maori kiwi and my whanau all lives in Aussie and we have a family of over 70 of us and only 3 have been deported and they have history or murder and gang affiliation. I’ve been to Aussie plenty of times and I don’t believe this is wrong at all. When you go somewhere you don’t have the right to enter unless your gonna better the place and not spread your poison. These people committed crimes against people in Aotearoa and hurt our country so Aussie has every right to not want these bastards infecting theirs. Sounds stupid because I’m a kiwi but what’s right is right. All yous saying kaka trying to state anyone can go anywhere you try living under the same roof as people who have bashed and hurt innocent people and try sleep knowing your children and elderly are at their mercy. We need to take a page out of their book. These scum ain’t no kiwi I call brother or sister so hang em out to dry
Absolutely, everyone is so full of white guilt nowadays, and react off of feelings as opposed to LAW, or even respecting their own country. Its simple, respect the culture and laws, or get out, I always thought that was common sense. We have the same thing trying to take place over here in the U.S. but luckily people are waking up to this, although our problem isnt' with kiwis per se. Our are simply with other cultures coming over here, and banging white guilt into everyones heads for shit that happened hundreds of years ago, and FORCING their culture onto our children, schools, cities, police departments, and attempting to do it in our government as well. I hope this whole age of victimhood comes to a close shortly, because the people with common sense see how ridiculous all of this is, and they're getting angry. I don't condone violence of any sort, but jesus, how much can people sit back while people call their own country terrible, as well as their people, trying to force everyone to be apologetic, and admit how "bad" of a person they are. God help us.
Think the immigration people will be casting an eye over this taking names? Kind of shitty thing these people do; round up and send people away because they're of 'bad character'. Or not white.
If you behave, nobody is going to deport you.
You are correct!
If you plan on misbehaving get your citizenship?
Yeah coz Australia has perfect citizens without foreigners 🥴
Nah. Up yours. I can do whatever I want you twit
No you don't actually have to have committed a crime to be deported. They can just section 189 and you've failed the bad character test
Whole truth and nothing but the truth, "DON'T DO DUMB SHIT" simple
Ahhhh, i think you are forgetting about the human condition... that comment is just throwing stones in galss houses lol
Just remember how much dumb shit all our ancestors did to produce every single person alive today, with comments like that, you are effectively judging all humans to ever have existed, very high standards indeed.
Don't hit people and you will be fine.
You have no idea how many people in the world would be grateful for a chance to start over in New Zealand.
Good point!
but new Zealand have been deporting Samoans and Tongans home after living here for over 20 years now we cry it happens to us what makes us more special than the pacific island people
don't think of it as no one cares about samoans and tongans. people are just now starting to talk about so we're having the conversation about everyone.
I notice his partner didn't go over to be with him. Maybe putting her in hospital gave her a different opinion of the tough man.
I hope you are right but actually the benefit is higher in oz
Always smarter to stay in Australia.
@@MelaniaRose u mean verses USA hell yer if I was American I would get the heck out of dodge , I don’t no we’re that saying comes from but I bet dodge is a place in America 😜
Why feel sorry for him, he beat a woman who was relying on him, sent her to hospital, he brought it on himself. Feel sorry for the wife and kids who are the losers in the whole mess.
Yet you don't understand what led to such. I think somewhere around the conversation he mentioned due to drugs?
Shit happens you mean no white man beat his wife?
And it won't be the first time he's abused her either
I suppose it’s fair enough they decided he deserved to be sent back here to New Zealand for what he did to his wife, but at the same time I do kinda feel bad for him arriving here with no one and nothing, and his family is in Australia, I mean regardless of his kids being brought here to visit their dad it must’ve been depressing for him to come here with no one,
As a Kiwi the Australian Home Affairs has every right to provide a safe environment and protect its citizens, and deport non Australian citizens when they commit an offence again Australian citizens. When in Rome . . .
Agree 100%
Deportation to your country of origin and citizenship as a punishment for a crime I s a great idea.
Behave yourself and you are a welcome guest.
The send folks home convicted of no crime which rubbishes your point there Dermot
"Deportation to your country of origin and citizenship" sounds fair 👍..Do you think that rule should apply to everyone who's country of origin is not Australia?..like yourself maybe??
@Winahh Taylahh I'll make it easy for you..Is Australia your country of Origin??
@Winahh Taylahh hmm 🤔 Aboriginal are you??
gotta feel sorry for the real victims and thats not these fellas
How do you go to another country break their laws and expect to be able to stay when it's obvious you have no respect for the countries laws.
Exactly New Zealand Born Australian...And The Cheek, Aboriginal/Maori Born, Here In New Zealand His Aboriginal Parent And Maori Parent Moved To Australia To Be Close To His People (As Well) Got On The Wrong Side Of The Law And Now Dutton And Scotty Trying To Deport Him??? He's Aboriginal For Goodness Sake!!!: I Know Heaps Of Australian In New Zealand...Jacinta Should Get Rid Of Trash As Well..
Lol
I Was Just Saying ...Nothing Personal...👍 Chur
Their System Failed... Aboriginal Still Suffering At The Hands If The Law???
Because we had Pathetic Leadership in Australia for DECADES that gave criminals the feeling of invincibility.
@@kororianuitakauterepo7538 but I strongly disagree with the extradition laws in Australia versus New Zealand New Zealand have extradited nine people back to Australia compare to Australia probably extraditing hundreds if not thousands back to New Zealand, love how NZpoliticians refuse to do the same thing just because the injustice of Australia doing it. Like it is a criminal offence to be a member of the Bandido‘s bike club so if you’re even a member they can extradite you back to NZ it’s so discrimination
dont hit your wife then you wouldnt have this problem
Theokles95
EXACTLY, nothard hey
The wife and husband were high when it happened and they had been fighting before she got hospitalised.
@@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns They were both high and they were both fighting. They even said his wife forgave him.
"Everyone is Australian except you because Australia said get the hell out." Not true. He had 20 years to become Australian, but didn't. It was and is HIS CHOICE. I don't like Australia's policy, but this guy is in this pickle by his own doing.
It's amazing how he's thinking about his family, what was he thinking about when he was thumping his wife.
David well said I cannot add any more to your profound point
@@andrelaveau8510 sounds like she was thumping him too, women can be just as violent as men. However he should have known better than to land in prison not being a citizen.
Don’t feel sorry for the wife beater
If you made a grave mistake by you action then you want the gov to handle you like that.First pay by jail then etc.i would like to listen to his women since they where a couple again.If he is a cronic wife trasher does not she have a responsibility to not get in to a couple relationship again?
Respect the country you came to for a better life or go back home. Simple
The first person says: "I'm nervous, I'm scared"...GREAT, now you know how your wife felt...
that’s my dad and i know the truth
@@laurenzanika3819 He shoulda got citizenship.
@@chriskyle9713 that has nothing to do with this comment, also he tried and then things got hard for him
@@chriskyle9713 its really not that easy
@@laurenzanika3819 I looked it up, it seems pretty easy given his situation. Australian partner visa or he qualified for the entrance Prior to 2001 option for NZ citizens. But the meth probably wasn't helping the application. Unlucky guy, good luck to him.
He should have become an Australian! Had years to do so and didn’t! Committed a crime and paid the consequences…no one’s fault but his own!
No sympathy here! Australia is it’s own country and can set the rules for immigrants! And that is how it should be, imo!
Being sent to New Zealand doesn't look like punishment to me . Looks beautiful .
Yeah, like being deported to heaven..lol
Makes one wonder, why so afraid to come home? Afraid of payback from people you've screwed in the past?
It looks superficially like 'heaven', but life with kiwis is very difficult.
@Richard Schiffman Maybe because NZ is too far from anywhere else, and you can make more money in Australia than in NZ.
"Doesn't look like punishment".... imagine being stripped of your career, family and friends to be axiled in a different country lol.. u don't think that's punishment?lol
Excuse me, but THIS GUY HIT HIS WIFE HARD ENOUGH TO SEND HER TO HOSPITAL. No pity. None.
I've spoken with Kiwis on this and they generally agree that they don't want them, either.
Kiwi born Australian & New Zealand citizenship holder here. If we break the law we must face the consequences regardless. Gangs = drug dealing, predator bullies with no respect to any laws or anyone however run free here in New Zealand.
I love Aotearoa but the fact that the gangs run our beautiful land is horrific & enough to make me think about moving back to Australia.
On behalf of all victims of crime I'd like to say THANK YOU to Peter Dutton and David Coleman for helping to protect Australians from dangerous criminal NON CITIZENS! Thank you!
I dont understand the point of this story. Are we supposed to feel sorry for these criminals? Good on Australia!
He try to ponder the point of it eventually punished the whole family beside they're brothers in armed since ww2...he don't argue the offences.
@@azmanmdsalleh2009 You speaking on what? I can understand not you saying. No to Kiwi, no to understanding bad, no? I argue the fences and the gates too. Yas.
@@Explorshon123 my answer to ein 3248 question....so you no understand what....? your arguement with fences and gate ..? FYI I no speaking I'm typing.....lol
But I don’t want to be responsible for my actions. 😂🤣
So this guy was high on drugs and constantly getting into fights? Hmmm, kind of too old to be behaving like a young teenager don't you think? So Australia decided to deport this guy under their law for constant bad behavior? Good for Australia!
I am from NZ and grew up in Australia and still here. If I was to commit a crime that was worth 12 months in jail and deported, then bad luck for me. I would not blame them, not at all.
Well you've been good to Australian society
I too am a Kiwi and have been in this great country called Australia since 1996. I agree with you 100% and I too would have no issues at being deported if I couldn't obey the law of land and respect the system here. it has been great for both me and my family for which I am very grateful for.
@@nicoledantoine8757 I lived in Singapore for two years. Loved every minute of it. If you follow their customs and rules, you can have a great time. Respect a countries' laws and people and one learns a lot about them. Really like Australia
@@nicoledantoine8757 Yes it is Nicole although I might add that it has changed considerable since I was living over there. Nevertheless it is the same standards I would uphold while visiting your country and people. Be respectful, humble and complimentary as well as obey the rules and customs -no problems
Good onya mate
one thing and one thing only "if you are not an Australian citizen and you commit and convicted of a crime YES you should be deported" no matter what country you come from. this reads true if you are an Australian in newzealand.
It depends on how they "offend". Only seven Australians were deported from NZ in the same amount of time.
Theodisc the reason not so many Aussies get deported from Aotearoa is because they are too thick to do anything serious!!
Obviously there is something wrong with the Kiwis that are being deported or they wouldn't be deported. There are many many more Kiwis that are good citizens and living productively in Australia.
The first person violently assaulted their spouse to the point they ended up in the hospital, only served 8 months for a crime that could've seriously handicapped his spouse and/or traumatized her for life, in a country he's not a citizen of, and we're supposed to feel sympathy for him being deported? To New Zealand?
Even the outlaw MC member has more room for sympathy than him in my book, and it was still literally fair for that person too to be deported, if the government literally said they could be deported for being part of an outlaw bikie gang.
The guy saying "They're New Zealand citizens, they're not Australian Citizens" was just speaking facts. Keep in mind this is Australia, a country whose government seems to be on the news for Xenophobia and being anti-Migrant/anti-Refugee. That is to say, if they're willing to deport someone back to a much more dangerous/poorer/worse off country for such a crime, then where's the human rights issue with sending an NZ citizen back to New Zealand?
i’m just letting you know that i am his child and he was never a bad father to us, my mum is and was an abuser and he’s always tried to do the right thing for us, nobody in this comment section knows anything about this story at all and you didn’t have to live it
what this documentary portrayed him out to be isn’t who he is
Australia gets a bad wrap for anti migrant and anti refugee because the quality has gone down the success of migrants boomed for 100 years since 1900 then we start getting boat people and Afghans. Not the cream of the crop anymore. You'll find NZ is far more insulated and less open to migration there's only 5 races in the entire country of NZ
He joins a biker gang and wonders why he was deported. What the hell did he expect lol.
As a New Zealander I say fair enough, we should do the same.
exactly
It would only be fair if you do
Do it. This is not bad to protect your country.
Sounds fair
I have Kiwi friends who are hard working, tough and honest. Welcome. To anyone else, where ever you come from, if you don't respect and appreciate Australia, Bugger Off.
This guy who has bitten his wife so that she nearly passed away - recovered in Hospital .Now he says " I am afraid , I am 😱 in shock " ..He should think about his family before ..He was on drugs, he says..as well as his wife..Soon she will come here with his kids ...who grew up seeing them being on drugs ..A vicious circle ..At least he stopped to take drugs in jail ...And she - being in hospital. Yeas ...we can understand why Australia is eager to get free of them as well as from criminals ..less problems - in future .That is why it is funny to try to insist on " justice " for them back in Austrslia :)
"Why Is Australia Deporting So Many Kiwis?" Should be "Why are so many Kiwis committing crimes in Australia?"
Most was done from maori natives,not discrimination .I haven't seen or heard about the whites one's 😨
And theres only few Australian commiting crimes in NZ,the latest one though just killed 49 people and many injured..Australian criminals are on different level,no petty crime just outcold terrorism.
Well actually. Out of the half a million Kiwis living in Australia, only a tiny number of Kiwis are resorting to crime. That number doesn't even reach the thousands, which is quite a puny number compared to a nation of born criminals, like Australia. :) thought I'd fill in that gap since you left that part out :) remember, being an Aussie doesn't mean you're a law abiding citizen now does it!? of course it doesn't lol.
I've never hit a woman or taken ice. A non citizen who does should expect nothing less.
It's a pity 95% of your country cannot say the same...
I have absolutely no sympathy for these guys. You are an adult. The decisions you make have ramifications and you have to live with those ramifications. These people would be offenders no matter the country they live in. You have never had the respect or commitment to take up Australian citizenship so you aren’t an Australian, you are a guest in someone else’s country and you have a moral and legal obligation to follow the law and social norms of the society you live in. These people aren’t minor offenders. They are all guilty of or have links to serious offending or are of bad character. There are plenty of other countries who deport their undesirables, we (NZ) should do the same !!!!!! The media coverage and pushing the agenda of deportation of non-Australian citizens is nothing more than a media and leftwing beat-up.
The whining when YOU violently attacked someone and get sent back to your own country. I cannot offer empathy. I bet he did reconcile…..for his OWN benefit!!!!
He broke the law and he's scared!! I'm sure his partner was scared when he beat the crap out of her.
Exactly
Poor Sean, all he did was punch his partner, a woman, hard enough to put her in hospital. He's a victim.
I don't get it either?
Learn to behave yourself and get anger management. No pity for them at all.
If after 24 years he can settle very well in Australia, after 20 years he can definitely settle in NZ. If his wife and children love him they surely can follow him
they will love the Aussie welfare dept more.
And he has to now settle in NZ, there is no way he can go to any other country now that he has been deported.
So they deported a violent meth user after his prison sentence, what's the problem? The UK does the same to it's non-native criminals. And the bandana/suit combo is just bizarre!
FitzSimons half baked brain thinking he's edgy.
Why are you trying to make us sympathise with a wife beater?
He is getting his head on tv. That's what its about
Well done Australia. Let this be an example to others the Aussie government is not effing around.
What a non-story. If an immigrant to a country can't behave then what's the problem in getting shut of that person?
Other countries should look at Australia and adopt their deportation laws. I'm all for this. Finally a country with balls!
The law in NZ is the same. Non citizens who break the law can be deported, provided they are not Australia. Australians in NZ are treated like a local, even with subsidized education. They are respected. They can even invest in housing without being resident. I am one cross over Kiwi who is glad the brain drain to Australia has stopped. Really sick of Kiwi dentists, teachers, lawyers, police etc leaving NZ. It cost a fortune to educate someone and then have them stolen. It is an economic burden. No, Australia should stop all immigration and then see how economically dependent Australia is on foreign workers - taxpayers for no effort.
@@gcb4763
Hilarious.
Most of these brains have been educated in Australia.
Tool.
@@gcb4763 It's not Australia's fault NZ is a terrible place to work.
@@gcb4763 Nobody steals them. They come her because NZ is a poor, little sh*tty crime ridden country.
If you're a guest in my home and begin stealing and breaking my belongs - I'm going to get the authorities to make sure you never darken my doorway again. You broke the furniture in someone else's home, can't behave, go home. I have been a guest here in Europe for almost 30 years, if I break any laws I expect them to rightly deport me. Behave or go back.
Rant Blackbird well said to be fair to u not many like u nowadays i sincerely appreciate that good honesty
Why didn’t he become a citizen. Oh, and he’s crying after hitting another person, not to mention a woman? You should have chosen a better character to represent your narrative. He doesn’t seem to have changed.
FitzSimons must have dementia if he thinks this example is worthy of our pity and consideration.....
I support peter dutton 100%. I think australian government laws are for reason. They are to protect australian citizens from criminals. So its good to have such laws.
I don't see any problem in deporting psychopaths who destroy people's lives with zero remorse.
@@badabing3915 He's a national disgrace. Make sure he suffers!
Why? Because they are not citizens, didn't bother to get citizenship and are, therefore, not protected under the same rights as citizens.
If they have broken the law they are subject to deportation just like everyone else (including under existing laws in NZ), why is that so difficult to understand?
Because kiwis have an entitled attitude and think Australia owes them something!
sorry that opening statement "Hit his partner hard enough and put her in hospital!! to get a 12mth sentence must of been bad!! Sorry!! good decision by by!! lets interview the person & persons family who he beat up!! sorry?? care factor is about 0 for this guy!
Sean Wynyard " high on drugs " his choice to take dope in the first place, using high on drugs as an excuse, making excuses, he still hasn't learned what he did to that woman was wrong, deported is poetic justice
i’m just letting you know that i am his child and he was never a bad father to us, my mum is and was an abuser and he’s always tried to do the right thing for us, nobody in this comment section knows anything about this story at all and you didn’t have to live it
it’s shaun by the way.
Criminal activity, assaults, drugs, gangs, and you are asking why, I'm thinking you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
valkry007
Hahaha! Too right 👍
Only one person to blame, the perpetrator of the crime
The motor cycle guy didn’t break any laws...
@@AlexM-WI wouldn't have been deported for making coffee
@@dingodancer did you watch the video? the government official confirmed that no crime needs to be committed to qualify for deportation. bike gang membership, which is not illegal in itself, was enough to qualify for "bad behaviour".
such unprecise language is dangerous and a slippery slope...
Wife beater jail......no way back.
He actually blames his wife and the drugs for him beating his woman. I know many addicts that don’t beat their partners.
you guys know absolutely nothing about this story.
20 yrs and couldn't be bothered to take out Australian citizenship, whose faults that mate
the governents
Being deported to NZ seems a lot better than being deported to some backward 3rd world country. I hear about people who get deported back to their countries of origin after decades living abroad where they speak different language /culture and suffer culture shock. At least NZ and Australia is Anglo language/cultural countries that is very similar.
Andy shabadoo Fair point, but it doesn't make a lot of difference if your kids are in another country.
I'm a South African living in Taiwan. If i put a foot wrong they would deport me in a second - and that's the way it should be.
I lived in Australia for 8 years like these guys, same deal. You're an immigrant, you have to keep your nose clean. That's the go. Maybe someone forgot to tell these Kiwis that...
Foot wrong, nose clean....why all the body part references.....lol
@@grapenutz1137 English idiom is a type of expression.
Your the master of your own destiny don't cry poor me when behave like an animal you get treated like one I have no pity for violent people
100%
Kiwi officials saying it's not the NZ way of doing things? But they do it to Samoans & Tongans all the time.
@Shane McDowall Not enough to give them a pass IMO. They have deported folks who have never set foot on their islands, who spent their entire lives in Aotearoa, who have no support system at all on their island. It was NZ's educational, justice and institutional systems that contributed to shaping their decisions. I'm not saying deportation can't be an option ever. I just think that if you do it to others you don't have the basis to complain about another country doing it to your citizens. And the "bad character" thing was only 1 example
@Shane McDowall For me this discussion raises the issue of what goes into the making of criminal behaviour. I don't have all the answers but it's clear that gender, economic and racial equity play a huge role as do the availability of culturally appropriate community supports. The other question is what turns criminal behaviour around and that too is a complex issue which deportation, in and of itself, does not resolve. Although keeping people safe is a strong and popular argument, I'm not sure that foisting someone who you believe to be dangerous on another population is the most ethical response. At the same time, as someone who is a US citizen living in Canada, I don't feel I have the moral high ground on this issue at all. Both countries have abysmal deportation and migrant practices. My only point here is NZ doesn't exactly have the moral high ground over Australia either.
As a victim of domestic violence!.. Literally was on the brink of death by a real piece of sh*t... You never recover mentally!.. I'm riddled from arthritis because of amount of times this controlling bully broke my bones! Constant pain, Left with brittle bones!.. Now the first chap shown!.. Quite frankly! I feel, Deporting him and giving him a new start is hardly protecting any New potential partner in his life Is it?... Leopard's don't change, They just use charm, Ego and suck up.... You deserve punishment.. M8!...
After travelling you realise how lucky we are in Australia weakening laws never strengthens a country.
Really? This is not likw a person being deported from the US to Syria or Afghanistan. It’s like being deported back to Denmark.
Oh come on! Be happy that new zealand is not same as in the middle east in civil wars. Not the end of the world.
exactly, the reporter should concentrate on something with more merit. time to cheer up
Ha ha yeah they think they're refugees and entitled to remain in Aus no matter what. And ironically they always harp on about how great NZ is...
@paul rangi Still upset about your deportation I see. I can understand that. Hope you've cleaned up your act though, now that you're back in NZ.
That's the problem?!? You do the crime, you do the time. Then get sent home 😂
Mr Gebrial. I don't see a problem with that.
It's quite easy. If you don' break the laws and are a respectful and positive contributor to society, then you will be welcome in almost any country. There should be a law that any immigrant that qualifies will get a 10 year probationary citizenship / residency. If they commit a serious crime / felony within that 10 years, they should get deported within 10 days.
Exactly!
Imagine becoming a citizen somewhere and still being deported lol
As an Australian / United State’s Dual citizen - it’s very simple - if you commit crimes - there’s consequences especially if you behave like a criminal . If you have the opportunity to take a 2nd citizenship in a country you have lived a while you take it . He had opportunities to take out Australian citizenship and didn’t - he was using ICE & a violent thug -
It's called "taking out the trash"!
Taking out the trash was a good ☝️😂🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
This is our Home if you do not behave go Home.
Our home? Is it really
I agree with that . If you come to a country that welcome you and you get involved with illegal activities you should be sent back from where you come from. Countries need to be safe from immigrants that come over thinking they can break all their laws. Follow rules and they could stay.
@@southernman5839 what do the aboriginals do to the white british Australians then when they do wrong?
@Kula Cnt you need to learn some history and humanity...I bet you support scomo and I bet you another Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi gayfl loving drunk.
@Kula Cnt i call it land not a country and we are care takers of the land. Actually I can't be bothered wasting my time on a racist drunk like yourself. Later oi oi oi
Don't behave.... you go. His excuse "I was high on drugs" Kick him out before he does it again.
I lived in Canada for 15 years and now Thailand, I was and still am aware I can be deported if I break the law.
you thai?
@@chillis8267 no I'm dual citizen Australia/ Canada, live in Thailand on a visa
I'm glad he is broke and job less. He should've respected the laws. We need to do this in the US.
joel grandbois Learn to spell, you’re embarrassing all 331 million of us.
joel grandbois we already do it in the US. It's not wife beaters that get deported. It's the illiterate that get deported. Lol
We was when trump was around
@@limelightny203 you are definitely right about that! Look what our president's doing now to our Southern border. If we don't make a hard stance on the southern border we're going to end up in bad shape. The minorities that are citizens of the United States are going to lose all their jobs. Not all minorities but some will. That and teenagers will lose their entry level jobs. God bless
What does he blooming well expect???? He goes to a foreign country, commits crimes, then wonders why they kick him out. It is a priviledge to be allowed to enter another country. If you break their laws then leave. It's as simple as that.
Live in Australia for twenty-plus years and don’t become an Aussie. That’s their problem. If they became one of us, they wouldn’t be able to be booted out!
Bashes his missus then Peter fitz Simons or Simon fitz Peter wants us to all cry for him. WTF is Peter fitz Simons? Send him to NZ too.
Exactly what I thought! Send one of Fitzy's kids to Pimpama High School which has been taken over by Kiwis then he'd understand. Even the Kiwi's kids are violent and full of anger.. toward teachers and any student who isn't a Kiwi! Bloody terrible.
He was involved with a bike gang bringing in drugs and he wasn’t involved.....give me a break....
Don't due the Crime if You can't do the Time! This guy beat his Woman and we are suppose to have Sympathy for this Woman Beater! He should be deported!
What? He WAS deported, that was the the thesis of the documentary.
Fair enough their country their rules, but why can’t they do that to the refugees and their gangs?
I guess there is nowhere to send them since they are in their own country.
I don’t blame the Australian government. Do the crime, pay the time. In N.Z. They would get a slap on the wrist. A sad joke.
No it’s a slip en thi wrest thiri
Why does New Zealand deport Pacific Islanders back to their Country of origin?
Why doesn't the native New Zealanders send the white colonizers back to Europe?
@@chewinggum365 😂
Im from New Zealand originally there is one way to prevent this from happening and that is stay out of trouble
or become an australian citizen
@@3incher982 but the funny thing is in Australia New zealanders are not allowed to get a citizenship your government doesn't want give us one
Amen!
@@eronitaunoa6508 Nonsense. If you're of good character and have been in Australia for the required number of years, you'll get citizenship. Trouble is that people come to Australia and think they have a license to make trouble. Throw the mongrels out, no matter where they come from.
@@eronitaunoa6508 Thats not true, I know a number of Kiwis who are Aus citz
Come here....break the law....send 'em back. Should be the law in every country.
Actually all countries have the right and do deport criminal non-citizens. Even hypercritical little NZ does it.
Can’t respect your host town country etc…evictions (deportations should be in order)go home and destruct your own home and why should other citizens have to be victimized in their own country life etc…?.
I can't help but picture and Aboriginal saying what you said 🤣🤦🏻♂ ignorance at its finest
20 years in Oz and never bothered to take out citizenship - HE is solely responsible for this and I can't understand why Fitzsimmons is trying to make it look like the Australian goverment's fault - he is NOT of good character and has paid the price..
an observer ,,,true that
This is the most ignorant comment ever. NZ'der cannot just Take citizenship, they have to apply via a points-tested skills system by invitation only, just like if you were an african.
@@jessedanielryder And that takes more than 20 years? Sounds like BS to me.
@@jessedanielryder ,,,,,,so..!!
@@donwood9396 Time is irrelevant, you're not eligible until you get invited. Why is that so hard to understand? The issue isnt this case, its the New Zealanders who were deported over Parking fines and going 4 km/h over the speed limit.
australia has correct attitude to criminals , europe needs this too
No, if he hadn’t done drugs and put his woman in the hospital he wouldn’t have been deported.
The question should be - Why is Australia deporting so many Kiwi sex offenders?
What's the issue? if they are convicted criminals in Australia and don't hold citizenship or hold dual citizenship, off ya trot, one way ticket, never to return.
If I moved to another country and committed offences, I wouldn't be at all surprised if I got sent back to Australia.
80% of those returned have subsequently gone to jail in NZ for committing more crimes, I know they were going for the compassion card but that is a pretty damning statistic that suggests they pretty much get it right most of the time.
I do have sympathy for NZ that they have to deal with people who spent most of their life in Australia and became criminals in this environment, perhaps NZ should track all their citizens living off-shore and push for them to apply for citizenship in the country they call home when they have been gone for so long, had these people done so they wouldn't have been deported.
How many of those 80% were deported back to a country they hadnt lived in since they were young or many years earlier ... dumped with no job, no home, no family... seems like they might resort to crime.... no brainer really
@@gotnothing4845 They are Kiwis. NZ should be supporting them. They've already cost the Australian taxpayers millions. Take responsibility.