Consider that they're aiming to catch up to the JP server in like a year, I'm already prepared for them to rush the weapon progression per update till we catch up to the JP server. I mean, they did release top tier 13* weapon right at the start.
could still use those to get the other 15 star weapons. Austere is still pretty good as a start 15 star. Then the Atlas Ex series. Bouncer can just stop at Jupiter Tullus though cause of the potential on it.
Makes me glad I play Fighter as a main. Only cost 2m for my Nemesis Fists and then 1m for Slave Fists. The cost of me taking them both to +35 to prep for 15* is like the cost of 1 weap for other classes. And then I go to my alt Gunner and look at prices and like yeah I'm good, I'll use Gix for now lol.
Man they must just have all the content on a dart board and just add what ever they hit lol. NA is allllll over the place with its content launches Thank you for covering the way that JP was pathed, it's helped me save a TON of meseta skipping certain things and just waiting to put intense Augments on my stuff. Got my Ray units yesterday and decided 5 Augs would be plenty since they become 13*s down the line, and tbh it feels a bit overkill. Everything dies SO fast omg lol
Honestly you don't need to add jack shit to your weapons or units yet. Although, for a rather nominal fee you can, if esp. tec attack, build a weapon at least that has 105 attack and 18 pp on the weapon alone. You'd do Noble Might/Casting/Precision / Precision/casting/might IV / Arks Fever / Arks Max / (Some soul that gives you attack and pp like Granz soul for T attack). You'd get the Soul Receptor fodder weapon in w/e flavor, melee, ranged, or tech from the Challenge Mode shop NPC vendor for basically free. The Noble thing is what's gonna cost u, tec is super cheap at 300k, the others are ten times that at about 2 to 3 mil. So the other fodders you can get five slot already, are super cheap for weapons cus there's an over abundance of those. You can probably, for about 2 mil augment a quite good increase in power on the weapon. I wouldn't even bother with augmenting units unless you legit just want to add only PP on them or HP. It's such an ENORMOUS waste to do that but people wanna be sweaty even though with literally just a maxed out Nem/Slave weapon you are good to go and are WAY overpowered as it is for any content.
Do the affixes from your Ray units not transfer over to the Union units during the exchange? I had heard this was the case during the exchange for the Nem/Slave exchange for Austere and thought it would likely be the same...
Hi . Thank you for this great video i was waiting for it . Since the day you said the nemesis and slave will be upgradable to 15 stars , ive been grinding them and now i have both nemesis and slave boosts at +35 not fully afflixed yet but ive got time for that . As i know you needed both weapon to get the 15 star +400 excubes + one more component i dont know about yet . Would it be possible to talk about the same topic but for Ray units ? Many people say saiki is way better but i see long terme in my investments . So i got now all ray unit affixed at 100 melee + 10 pp on eachwitg 4 afflixes on each. What i would like to know is how long and how good these weapon ( upgraded 15 star from nemesis and slave ) and units ( Ray set )will be and until when . I wont be able to olay during mid jully and august maybe longer so i am trying to think ahead of that . Thank you again for the info, even if i would have like to know a bit more about the upgraded version of nemesis / slave weapon . Thanks
I think if they continue the way they have been, rushing out the content, I think it's likely going to be a lot quicker to obtain the weapons than it was in JP since it sort of has to be in order to catch us up without having us be completely under-powered. Guessing what's going to happen based on JP progression is just that, guessing, but there's not much else we can do. Also all that said there's no real reason to not try to obtain the slave and nemesis weapons because they'll be useful regardless.
My concern isn’t so much how quick we will get them is more so that most the newer weapons were drop only, you can’t sell all weapons just select ones over 13 stars
What about units? I know ray is almost free with independence event but i seay circaray union upgrade and it was only 25HP, will those get replaced? On EP4 Thanks
What do you find to be more powerful between the Nemesis weapons vs. Ares weapons? Ares has some pretty stellar base stats, and a good potential, but I'm not sure if the Nemesis still beats it out? I'm curious 🤔
Ares has a specific mechanic that makes me think it may not be out in global just yet but im not 100% sure about that but if Ares is out it may not be stronger then nem/slave just yet as it uses the Super Special Ability system that comes out in Ep5
is it worth getting the revolsio weps from the challenge shop they seem to have some pretty decent affixes or should i just get ray instead wanted a new wep till i can get a hold of a nem wep since nem JBs are expensive atm
I actually highly recommend getting the Revolsio weapons from the CM shop, reason being that after you get a better weapon (mostly thinking Nemesis), the ones in the CM Shop make EXCELLENT Affix fodder because they have 5 slots and have Soul Receptor. They're also, imo, hella cheap to get, since a full clear of the current challenge quest nets about 3k CM, and you get a ton of extra CM from your first clear via titles. However, I would not recommend grinding the Revolsio from the CM shop, and to just save your grinding fodder for when you get a Nemesis wep.
they are fine assuming your ok with enhancing them. your still going to spend money there and tho they have good augments for affixing you also need to determine whether or not your going to actually augment with them. if not then its not worth the money it cost to enhance
While I understand the usefulness of the augments if you don’t plan to grind the weapon then there is no reason to get it other then using it in an augment recipe for a better weapon. A properly upgraded 12 would do more damage.
Quick question if you don't mind, what rings usually would you recommend on the circuray for a JB bouncer? Also is it mandatory to use the one that keeps the elements after doing an element change so you don't lose it after doing your shift action? Thanks.
so as far as rings go since JBs really only needs the JB Combo Varient SC ring you can go with mostly utility. Things like mag excitement for extra damage from your mag, Atomizer Fanatic for quick atomizer use, Party toughness for tankiness, and so on. As for the loss of element the only thing that should get rid of your element is your neutral weapon action. Using it after jetsweep kick doesnt get rid of it it just have the element until you build focus back up again
@@KronoKatastrophy Yeah that was my problem with losing elements. I am good at using my s lol. I might have to get the rings for that. Thanks for the reply.
Lets say you got a fully built nemesis on your second favorite class/build. The other classes you play pretty much have 12*s. Would you go about deliberately farming for Ray / Rev weapons for your other classes, or pretty much go straight to Nem/Slave? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I will eventually be able to gear my main and other classes just by straight up spending the meseta I earn by doing the content I want.
because of how much i play id go for the nem/slave play but i also would have sold the nem on my second favorite class. thats just me tho I always build into main
I ~thought~ I would be someone who was only going to play my main. But when I went back to raise my sub class to 75, I decided that I wanted to do so with a new skill page that gave me the option of playing my sub as a main. Then I decided I want that class's sub to be something different. Things snowballed from there and I got addicted to collecting class bonuses. Now I feel like I'm wasting time if I'm playing a max level character when I could be getting another max class bonus. Ex cubes don't seem like theyre worth the grind.
I bought a pair of Nemesis Duals today and I already had Slave Duals..kept getting told u need em both for utilizing getting a 14 star weapon..what is it? And does it require more stuff? And am I preparing too soon?
the idea behind it is that when 15 stars came out there were 3 choices. Austere NT, Atlas EX, and Lightstream. the Atlas EX required an upgrade item you had to farm a bit for. The lightstream was the same way but it came from a title that you only got after killing a boss 50 times. However the Austere NT you could get nearly instantly if you had the wepaons ready. the slave and nemesis series weapons go into this so it will be an easy 15 star to get early and especially nice for classes that use more then one weapon
Krono Katastrophy well I'm glad you told me this. But now I have another issue. I used a Weapon Transmutation Device Pass on my Slaves weapons. Will I still be able to use them when the time comes to get the 15 * Weapon?
Hi Krono! Do you have any affixing recommendations for Soaring Blades/Jet Boots? I was looking for some options but I have no idea to be completely honest.
it depends on the class. some dont need the PP and opt for the increase in damage and the PP recovery. In cases like bouncer we have awesome PP economy so nemesis just helps keep that comfy however something like say wand slap techer or ranger who youd want a slave because you want that base damage or you dont need the pp economy anyway
I was thinking of investing in gix to farm up slave and nemisis and then keep them in my storage until I have enough resources to upgrade them. Edit: is this a good investment or am I better off just holding off for nemesis drops?
That was base nem and slave and that was on the JP servers because you use to have to farm for them and combine the stones to get them. ON JP they added the NT versions as drops and if you had the stones you could still trade them in. Its possible they may do something like that but if they were going to I figure they would have by now since we have all the content that dropped the old stones and I believe some of the old stones as well.
technically both for prep but it depends on the class as to which is better for use. Nemesis gives you a shield that reduces pp usage while active and cuts the hit you take to the shield by 40% Slave gives you a shield that gives you increased attack PP regen and passive PP regen and the first hit you take wont knock you back
@@alev6737 just mates i believe as stated '-mate' items. It is better than nemesis and slave for classes dont use mate items since nemesis and slave only give 17% but gix offers 20%
@@jamesm.3801 I just found out today. Im not sure it is a bug or what but there is 2 different potential for gix weapons which are Spirited Ascension and Spirited Persistence while Spirited Ascension being reset the 20% upon taking damage but thats not what stated in the game right now.
The ridiculously low drop rate is slowing eating away my interest in this game... Got only 1 drop after days of darming, but it's not even the one I want.
Sell it, stack up some cash, pick up the drop you want. Trust me I know how much not getting the drop you want can hurt. I never got 2 drops I wanted on JP and watched everyone else get them. One of those two drops is actually screwing me out of the best weapon I can get on JP right now. My best bit of advice is if your not enjoying the farm then don’t do it. The chase can tire anyone out and there will be other options so don’t sweat it.
@@takerukurosawa2337 Weapons are cheap to affix. you can get 105 attack and 18 pp with some other freebies by upgrading it with Arks fever, arks max (which is legit free because if you have 3 arks fever you get that as an option at 100 percent rate), Noble casting/precision/might (that's the costly one, unless you are tec the nit's like 300k vs 3 mil), a soul that gives you good attack and pp like Granz for tec attack, and like Casting/Might/Precision VI which is cheap as fuck as well.
I just don't think it's wise to speculate based on what happened in jp. We got an EP 5 weapon in ep 3, yet you assume that the stuff we about to get in ep 4 is gonna be exactly the same. Just isn't very sound logic
True yet we have gotten weapons based on content. The only time content drops have been different are in the case where we don’t get the bosses. Everything is an educated guess. Point was that saying things like “we are going to replace them in ep4” may not be as true as we think
I appreciate the effort you put into your vids. Thank you for making things easy to understand.
When you ignore this video because you're afraid of finding out that you wasted millions of meseta
and then you realize that you wasted NOTHING! xD
@@KronoKatastrophy oh phew okay I'll watch. Nice to know my precious Nemmy boots are not bad
@@vyx6005 It's fine, you'll need it later as an ingredient for a 15 star.
@@KronoKatastrophy But it would be nicer to get a drop from it. I just want to know where I can farm those.
@@infinitykiyen6270 Ultimate quest Lillipa i guess or the other map. Check the item log.
Consider that they're aiming to catch up to the JP server in like a year, I'm already prepared for them to rush the weapon progression per update till we catch up to the JP server. I mean, they did release top tier 13* weapon right at the start.
facts
could still use those to get the other 15 star weapons. Austere is still pretty good as a start 15 star. Then the Atlas Ex series. Bouncer can just stop at Jupiter Tullus though cause of the potential on it.
They're goal is to be caught up to JP by the end of this year
Makes me glad I play Fighter as a main. Only cost 2m for my Nemesis Fists and then 1m for Slave Fists. The cost of me taking them both to +35 to prep for 15* is like the cost of 1 weap for other classes.
And then I go to my alt Gunner and look at prices and like yeah I'm good, I'll use Gix for now lol.
Man they must just have all the content on a dart board and just add what ever they hit lol. NA is allllll over the place with its content launches
Thank you for covering the way that JP was pathed, it's helped me save a TON of meseta skipping certain things and just waiting to put intense Augments on my stuff. Got my Ray units yesterday and decided 5 Augs would be plenty since they become 13*s down the line, and tbh it feels a bit overkill. Everything dies SO fast omg lol
Honestly you don't need to add jack shit to your weapons or units yet. Although, for a rather nominal fee you can, if esp. tec attack, build a weapon at least that has 105 attack and 18 pp on the weapon alone. You'd do Noble Might/Casting/Precision / Precision/casting/might IV / Arks Fever / Arks Max / (Some soul that gives you attack and pp like Granz soul for T attack). You'd get the Soul Receptor fodder weapon in w/e flavor, melee, ranged, or tech from the Challenge Mode shop NPC vendor for basically free. The Noble thing is what's gonna cost u, tec is super cheap at 300k, the others are ten times that at about 2 to 3 mil.
So the other fodders you can get five slot already, are super cheap for weapons cus there's an over abundance of those. You can probably, for about 2 mil augment a quite good increase in power on the weapon.
I wouldn't even bother with augmenting units unless you legit just want to add only PP on them or HP. It's such an ENORMOUS waste to do that but people wanna be sweaty even though with literally just a maxed out Nem/Slave weapon you are good to go and are WAY overpowered as it is for any content.
lol basically what Marcus just said.
Do the affixes from your Ray units not transfer over to the Union units during the exchange? I had heard this was the case during the exchange for the Nem/Slave exchange for Austere and thought it would likely be the same...
Thanks for sharing your insightful opinions as always.
i like watching your videos, it does really hit my question 😊, thankss!!
I’m just waiting for the price of those weapons to lower
i keep an eye on them daily to snipe the slave dual i need still
Been waiting for this vid 🤪
Hi . Thank you for this great video i was waiting for it . Since the day you said the nemesis and slave will be upgradable to 15 stars , ive been grinding them and now i have both nemesis and slave boosts at +35 not fully afflixed yet but ive got time for that . As i know you needed both weapon to get the 15 star +400 excubes + one more component i dont know about yet . Would it be possible to talk about the same topic but for Ray units ? Many people say saiki is way better but i see long terme in my investments . So i got now all ray unit affixed at 100 melee + 10 pp on eachwitg 4 afflixes on each. What i would like to know is how long and how good these weapon ( upgraded 15 star from nemesis and slave ) and units ( Ray set )will be and until when . I wont be able to olay during mid jully and august maybe longer so i am trying to think ahead of that . Thank you again for the info, even if i would have like to know a bit more about the upgraded version of nemesis / slave weapon . Thanks
I think if they continue the way they have been, rushing out the content, I think it's likely going to be a lot quicker to obtain the weapons than it was in JP since it sort of has to be in order to catch us up without having us be completely under-powered. Guessing what's going to happen based on JP progression is just that, guessing, but there's not much else we can do. Also all that said there's no real reason to not try to obtain the slave and nemesis weapons because they'll be useful regardless.
My concern isn’t so much how quick we will get them is more so that most the newer weapons were drop only, you can’t sell all weapons just select ones over 13 stars
Your title scared me for a second then I watched and got some good info. Thank you for the jump scare lol.
anytime
Ty for the insight. I feel like the current market meta is such a scam considering how PSO will release these episodes and weapons.
What about units? I know ray is almost free with independence event but i seay circaray union upgrade and it was only 25HP, will those get replaced? On EP4 Thanks
What do you find to be more powerful between the Nemesis weapons vs. Ares weapons? Ares has some pretty stellar base stats, and a good potential, but I'm not sure if the Nemesis still beats it out? I'm curious 🤔
Ares has a specific mechanic that makes me think it may not be out in global just yet but im not 100% sure about that but if Ares is out it may not be stronger then nem/slave just yet as it uses the Super Special Ability system that comes out in Ep5
Do you happen to have any grinding guides? Great vid btw
depends on your definition of grinding
@@KronoKatastrophy enhancing 13* weapons with 12* in order to save lambda grinders
is it worth getting the revolsio weps from the challenge shop they seem to have some pretty decent affixes or should i just get ray instead wanted a new wep till i can get a hold of a nem wep since nem JBs are expensive atm
I actually highly recommend getting the Revolsio weapons from the CM shop, reason being that after you get a better weapon (mostly thinking Nemesis), the ones in the CM Shop make EXCELLENT Affix fodder because they have 5 slots and have Soul Receptor. They're also, imo, hella cheap to get, since a full clear of the current challenge quest nets about 3k CM, and you get a ton of extra CM from your first clear via titles.
However, I would not recommend grinding the Revolsio from the CM shop, and to just save your grinding fodder for when you get a Nemesis wep.
they are fine assuming your ok with enhancing them. your still going to spend money there and tho they have good augments for affixing you also need to determine whether or not your going to actually augment with them. if not then its not worth the money it cost to enhance
While I understand the usefulness of the augments if you don’t plan to grind the weapon then there is no reason to get it other then using it in an augment recipe for a better weapon. A properly upgraded 12 would do more damage.
Quick question if you don't mind, what rings usually would you recommend on the circuray for a JB bouncer? Also is it mandatory to use the one that keeps the elements after doing an element change so you don't lose it after doing your shift action? Thanks.
so as far as rings go since JBs really only needs the JB Combo Varient SC ring you can go with mostly utility. Things like mag excitement for extra damage from your mag, Atomizer Fanatic for quick atomizer use, Party toughness for tankiness, and so on. As for the loss of element the only thing that should get rid of your element is your neutral weapon action. Using it after jetsweep kick doesnt get rid of it it just have the element until you build focus back up again
@@KronoKatastrophy Yeah that was my problem with losing elements. I am good at using my s lol. I might have to get the rings for that. Thanks for the reply.
Lets say you got a fully built nemesis on your second favorite class/build. The other classes you play pretty much have 12*s. Would you go about deliberately farming for Ray / Rev weapons for your other classes, or pretty much go straight to Nem/Slave? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I will eventually be able to gear my main and other classes just by straight up spending the meseta I earn by doing the content I want.
because of how much i play id go for the nem/slave play but i also would have sold the nem on my second favorite class. thats just me tho I always build into main
I ~thought~ I would be someone who was only going to play my main. But when I went back to raise my sub class to 75, I decided that I wanted to do so with a new skill page that gave me the option of playing my sub as a main. Then I decided I want that class's sub to be something different. Things snowballed from there and I got addicted to collecting class bonuses.
Now I feel like I'm wasting time if I'm playing a max level character when I could be getting another max class bonus. Ex cubes don't seem like theyre worth the grind.
I bought a pair of Nemesis Duals today and I already had Slave Duals..kept getting told u need em both for utilizing getting a 14 star weapon..what is it? And does it require more stuff? And am I preparing too soon?
You’ll need them both for a 15 star not a 14.
Oh Word can you answer my other questions..like is it too soon to prepare and is it still more stuff to acquire with Nem and Slaves?
the idea behind it is that when 15 stars came out there were 3 choices. Austere NT, Atlas EX, and Lightstream. the Atlas EX required an upgrade item you had to farm a bit for. The lightstream was the same way but it came from a title that you only got after killing a boss 50 times. However the Austere NT you could get nearly instantly if you had the wepaons ready. the slave and nemesis series weapons go into this so it will be an easy 15 star to get early and especially nice for classes that use more then one weapon
Krono Katastrophy well I'm glad you told me this. But now I have another issue. I used a Weapon Transmutation Device Pass on my Slaves weapons. Will I still be able to use them when the time comes to get the 15 * Weapon?
Hi Krono! Do you have any affixing recommendations for Soaring Blades/Jet Boots? I was looking for some options but I have no idea to be completely honest.
check the channel i affix a weapon and unit and talk about my recommendations in those
I keep telling people to aim for nemesis over slave for the shield, but they see the extra tiny bit of dmg slave has and assume its better.
i just go for slave because i like darker colors lol
tbh it's better to have both cuz it's both beneficial in the long run, especially for later content
it depends on the class. some dont need the PP and opt for the increase in damage and the PP recovery. In cases like bouncer we have awesome PP economy so nemesis just helps keep that comfy however something like say wand slap techer or ranger who youd want a slave because you want that base damage or you dont need the pp economy anyway
wht emote is tht 0-0 and thanks for the explanation
I think it’s called cross legs I forget tho sry 🥺
Austere requires Ares, which we don't have yet correct?
yes but we have the Ares Phantacites, which will be tradable for ares weapons
dragon how many phantacites will be required
I was thinking of investing in gix to farm up slave and nemisis and then keep them in my storage until I have enough resources to upgrade them.
Edit: is this a good investment or am I better off just holding off for nemesis drops?
Depends on how lucky you get with farming, gix isn’t a terrible choice. Check out yesterday’s video for my thoughts on that one
@@KronoKatastrophy aighty thenks my dood
Hey :) Which is better for JB? Nemesis or Slave?
id say personal preference tbh
JBs kinda struggle with PP economy while slamming out super hard kicks so you can get good mileage out of either
cant u also get nem and slave from shiny stone shop later
That was base nem and slave and that was on the JP servers because you use to have to farm for them and combine the stones to get them. ON JP they added the NT versions as drops and if you had the stones you could still trade them in. Its possible they may do something like that but if they were going to I figure they would have by now since we have all the content that dropped the old stones and I believe some of the old stones as well.
Krono Katastrophy ah ok thanks
Huh, I want one
But im broke
Q-Q
Slave + Invade+ Nemesis + Ares = Austere 15*
Pretty sure invade was included in that too
@@KronoKatastrophy oh yeah!
slave or nemesis im so torn
Both
technically both for prep but it depends on the class as to which is better for use.
Nemesis gives you a shield that reduces pp usage while active and cuts the hit you take to the shield by 40%
Slave gives you a shield that gives you increased attack PP regen and passive PP regen and the first hit you take wont knock you back
fyi the gix weapon in the game is actually 20% power potency and reset upon using mate at lv.3 instead of what stated in the na wikipage.
Just mates or any healing you receive?
@@alev6737 just mates i believe as stated '-mate' items. It is better than nemesis and slave for classes dont use mate items since nemesis and slave only give 17% but gix offers 20%
KC Low I was gonna say... so you’re saying I should buy gix jet boots, but then I remember my sub is a hunter.
@@jamesm.3801 I just found out today. Im not sure it is a bug or what but there is 2 different potential for gix weapons which are Spirited Ascension and Spirited Persistence while Spirited Ascension being reset the 20% upon taking damage but thats not what stated in the game right now.
Depends on the class, jet boots resets when you get hit
To get austere weapons I know we need nemesis and slave +35 but which was the 3rd one? Is it available right now? I want austere as soon as possible
invade,slave,nemesis, ares(anga drop)
The ridiculously low drop rate is slowing eating away my interest in this game... Got only 1 drop after days of darming, but it's not even the one I want.
Sell it, stack up some cash, pick up the drop you want. Trust me I know how much not getting the drop you want can hurt. I never got 2 drops I wanted on JP and watched everyone else get them. One of those two drops is actually screwing me out of the best weapon I can get on JP right now.
My best bit of advice is if your not enjoying the farm then don’t do it. The chase can tire anyone out and there will be other options so don’t sweat it.
Yes, they're the best currently.
Im settling for a Gix Katana since I cant seem to afford or get a Nem/Slave as a drop :(
:(
sry friend hope you have better luck soon
If you cant afford nemesis or slave get a gix
Ooof and if you are a katana player you're SOL cus they cost way too much on NA
they arent to terrible but they are expensive
When I see 15 minute videos, I thank god for 1.75-2x speed.
Yes, yes they are 😂
i literally got my neme today xD
PogChamp
@@KronoKatastrophy but i need to affix it so it will cost a lot xD
@@takerukurosawa2337 Weapons are cheap to affix. you can get 105 attack and 18 pp with some other freebies by upgrading it with Arks fever, arks max (which is legit free because if you have 3 arks fever you get that as an option at 100 percent rate), Noble casting/precision/might (that's the costly one, unless you are tec the nit's like 300k vs 3 mil), a soul that gives you good attack and pp like Granz for tec attack, and like Casting/Might/Precision VI which is cheap as fuck as well.
@@marcusaurelius4777 i use melee and it costs like 3m atm
No. But get them anyway
I just don't think it's wise to speculate based on what happened in jp.
We got an EP 5 weapon in ep 3, yet you assume that the stuff we about to get in ep 4 is gonna be exactly the same.
Just isn't very sound logic
True yet we have gotten weapons based on content. The only time content drops have been different are in the case where we don’t get the bosses. Everything is an educated guess. Point was that saying things like “we are going to replace them in ep4” may not be as true as we think
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