Exactly. I applaud them for bringing him on. Now bring on the many many others touching on this and other breakthrough topics w ample evidence. Instead of getting some Theologian to explain God like they did once, ughh. Come one man I’ll say it, Parapsychology, get the Scientists research those topics on already!
He always gets someone who has studied religion and starts asking them questions that they have no experience with or evidence of. Meanwhile there are plenty of trained doctors who are investigating Near Death Experience data and also many who are willing to speculate philosophically. This is the first time he has gotten anyone to talk about life after death who has any reason to have any idea what they are talking about.
@@wagfinpis I sure hope the producers read these comments. It’s about time they get those who are working on bleeding edge breakthrough research. Thank you for the contribution! Scientism is a mind virus of the bad kind!
A Christian scientist posted a video on how a Muslim man ability to identify unwanted spirit in your body and pull them out of you, it was unbias report. It will make you go, umm how many things the West did not learn from Islam. This muslim man took on Christian scientist. Then Christian scientist goes on saying, "I don't have recollection of these event took place" but he witness himself in the video after all said and done.
@@wagfinpisAgreed. I truly believe that the experiences of real people during their NDEs are better sources than ancient texts or neurological studies.
As someone getting perhaps cLose to the end of my life (I’m almost 78), I love this video and Dr. Parnia….i find this encouraging and it gives me hope….thank you Robert, and please have Dr. Parnia on again and again…😊❤️👍
Metaphor: the mind is a radio receiver; universal consciousness the radio waves that permeate spacetime. Consider consciousness to be fundamental, from consciousness emerge space, time and matter. [Some radio receivers are powerful and sensitive, able to catch multiple wavebands with great clarity. Others are but cat-whisker crystal sets. As we evolve spiritually, over subsequent incarnations, our consciousness/receiver becomes more powerful/sensitive.]
I think that the brain probably is a conduit for consciousness but also a filter that keeps us from being overwhelmed by all the stimuli around us. This theory was explained by Dr. Bruce Greyson, a neurologist who researches near death experiences (NDE's). Evidence comes from testimonies of people who, after returning from near death, reported that they'd seen colors and heard sounds they'd never perceived before. That consciousness operates outside of spacetime is also supported by NDE'er reports that their experience of time was non-existent while in near death.
My 33 son died tragically in a foreign country. It took our family 8 weeks to repatriate his body. After his funeral and on the way to the cemetery, 10 weeks after his death, I was overtaken with pain in my abdomen and my head. Within 15 minutes I was unconscious. My son's ashes were in the car with me and my other children. I believed that I was dying. The process of losing consciousness, however was so pleasant and sweet. I can't explain it. The moment after I told my son to drive to the ER, I believe that I experienced dying. I was in the ER for several hours and underwent many tests. The only abnormal medical finding was high blood pressure. I would like to believe that my deceased son came to me for comfort, to tell me that he was not suffering and that death was not the end. But I needed to be close to death to feel him comfort me. That was his last message to me, for now. We miss him every day.
The interviewer seems to be almost desperately seeking confirmation that he will NOT live on after physical death. I'm not sure why. If consciousness survives for hours after physical death, it's quite plausible that it will keep surviving indefinitely. In a different interview, that's what Sam Parnia says--not as a certainty but as a reasonable possibility. There's also the fact that people having these beyond-physical-death experiences often encounter relatives who've been dead for much longer, and also, usually, come out of the experience feeling certain that they themselves will live forever. This is NOT science, but psychologically speaking, it should be respected, since these perceptions are so widespread, cross-cultural, and powerful.
I agree. There’s a difference between skepticism and just being a denialist. He claims that that if there is any material aspect to consciousness no matter how subtle that it would defy the immortal soul of religion (I don’t see how that necessarily does but whatever) and that the immortal soul of religion is dualistic in thinking, but he does the same thing trying so hard to pin down whether it’s material or not material which is exactly what dualism is😂
if you believe that only the material exists, then how can you ever bridge the gap to the immaterial? By pointing out the existence of thoughts (non material), emotions (non material), motivations (non material), hopes, aspirations, dreams, empathy, ... the list goes on. Proof that the immaterial exists.
I wonder why the interviewer tries so desperately to make him say that his research does't even suggest at least some time of psyche's continual . Well, if we take as a fact that it continues for x hours why we exclude that it can't continue for x+1 second ?
I have never seen the host of this program so off the rails! He's absolutely harassing this doctor and "hell" bent on trying to force him to say some vague thing that he doesn't want to say. I enjoyed Closer to The Truth and I get that he's a "sceptic" or athiest or whatever he's promoting himself as but until this episode I've not seen him being so compulsive about putting down his "straw man" in his straw man argument about the hypothetical believer he's got in mind. Really poor showing and I don't like to trash good programs lightly but this doctor is very excellent as a professional and as a communicator and he's reporting some very important medical news which seems to feel very threatening to the host.
- Spirit: Any source of energy or influence that acts upon or filters through a specific toroidal system (a soul). - Soul: Any toroidal system designed to receive, interpret, transmit, and/or transform spirits. - Body: Any structure designed to protect and host a soul. - Angel: Any process in which a spirit and soul interact. Some examples of spirits would be electromagnetism, water, blood, words, ideas, etc. Some examples of souls would be stars, planets, brains, dams, etc.
@@SenorCinema With an empty comment like that, are you sure it’s not *you* that has dropped yours? Provide a cogent rebuttal, or refrain from commenting at all.
Nope. The soul is part of the spirit categoriy. A spirit & body are subcategoreies of the Mind Categorie. Man is a subcategory of the Inteligence Category. God & Angels are entirely spirits. And only an inelligence makes, operates, imporves Functions due to the Informaiton all Functions possess to exist & to function. But you must start with the simple fact that Man is the only known NATURAL intelligence in a Universe when everything is a NATURAL Function, including Man's body with information that can only come from the Mind of an intelligence. Universal Functions is the proof of God, spirits & souls btw .. and is the only way youcan use natural laws to ove the unnatural.
I can't help sense mr Parnia personally believes the Soul goes on. But he is 100 per cent correct not to jump to that conclusion in the interest of true science.
the only way scientist will be able to prove the existence of a soul; it will be as soon as they invent a MRI machine capable to read the energy of the soul leaving a body. So for now, we will have to rely on NDEs and Mediumships; which in themselves have been telling us a lot info; at least for me.
@@rodneycarvalho6052 In the meantime, waiting for science to definitively prove the existence of the soul and build the machine, we who have faith will keep on believing without the need of it and going on. Yes, NDE has already given concrete ancillary evidences to the old knowledge that _the mind is not dependent of the brain_ , thus it might be possible one day to arrive at one indisputable consensus. But on a second thought, what use would humanity make of that knowledge that it doesn't already have? Is the proof itself that would silence the naysayers or is there more behind the quest for it?
The whole division between 'physical' and 'non-physical' (or material and immaterial) is historically very blurred anyway. The notion of invisible infinitely extending fields that permeate the whole universe and interact with 'matter' (e.g. like gravity) was once looked down on as a semi-religious notion because notable thinkers at that time defined 'physical' as strictly-speaking tangible and mechanistic (that is to say - only able to exert influence by direct contact). That historical notion is now rejected. But rather than saying that 'immaterial invisible fields exist', we instead simply re-defined what we meant by physical so that these phenomena could be included. Essentially - the point is that we should be slightly less obsessive by whether something is physical/material or not as these definitions get reshaped over time. The relevant question is not whether the mind/soul/psyche is physical, but rather "is it real?" "is there any data to support it?" "does that phenomena (whether physical or not) persist after a certain point in time which we call clinical death?". It would seem, albeit tentatively, that the answer to these questions is 'yes'.
Why does it seem strange that the psyche should survive after clinical death - provided the person does not remain dead? The psyche is derived from the person's biology, and that biology did not remain dead, so certainly the psyche should be retained. Talk to me when you have evidence of an extant non-biologically dependent psyche - that is, a psyche that survives the permanent death of the supporting biology. Also, I find Sam's suggestion of a psyche that doesn't exist within the brain to be ridiculous. If it's not in the brain, then where else can it be - the spinal column perhaps? Regardless of that, I am onboard with the need for further research and analysis into how the psyche/mind functions from a biological or mechanistic perspective. I do not expect it will be determined to exist, or can exist, outside the brain.
@@jflnote3901 Well what did I say that's wrong? He provided discovery parallel with what his medical data study showed him. He didn't go further than that at all, in fact, he didn't even speculate what he could've speculated based on what his data showed. You reject the idea that the psyche persist after physical death well if his studies showed that even several minutes after brain death, consciousness persists, should he reject that too just to satisfy your materialistic reductionist worldview bullshit narrative?
The increasing encounters between animals and humans (captured on video) which seem to rely on a communication between the animal and human, might also demonstrate a consciousness outside of the verbal and tangible.
Soul is like electricity... When you die the soul will be without identity.... It's like taking battery out of phone... All memory is in the phone... Like that when you die the soul or energy will be no identity no memory.... All identity memory will be in brain with your die.... So soul is just a energy giving your body life
The brain is actually the best representation of all matter. It is neuronal. Neurons are cells having only two features that may be said to account for our conscious self. These two features are the axon and the dendrites. These are only part of a signal generating (or inhibiting) and propagating mechanism. Whenever our sensory organs come into contact with an object, the sense-data pertaining to this object is _experienced_ and _felt_ by the self. This experience is undeniable. But the neurons will only _relay_ and _convey_ , _route_ and _reroute_ the sense-data over the nervous system. From the location of the sensory receptors right up to the highest point of the cerebral cortex, there is only relay. The neurons in the cerebral cortex do exactly the same job (of signal propagation) that the neurons at the bottom most level of the hierarchy are doing viz. only relaying. So, quite clearly, there is an UNBRIDGEABLE GAP here. On the one hand, conscious experience is undeniable. On the other hand, there are entities acting only as the conveyor (not experiencer) of data. Therefore, in order to bridge this gap, we *must* introduce into the picture an entity that is conscious by nature and which must experience and perceive the sense-data brought in by the neurons (in the form of signals). It is this conscious entity, which lies above all matter but still is connected to its best representation, the brain, that was given the name of " *soul* " by the ancient philosopher-scientists.
How would you explain a person blind from birth who can suddenly “see” during an NDE? They never developed the ability to process visual signals. Many NDEs counter the notion that consciousness is strictly in the brain. Don’t take my word for it; spend some time looking into them. Very compelling.
All the activity you see in the brain is just an image, a representation of consciousness that is presented to us across disassociative boundary, but this image itself is not consciousness, it's only the image of it, one representation of the mental process. What you described is basically "The BIG problem of consciousness" coined by Chalmers. It sure is a big problem, i dont see it as a bridgable gap if you believe in materialism.
@@Simon-xi8tb Yes, very correct. It's totally unbridgeable. An extra entity, conscious by nature (immaterial), must be introduced. Thanks for your reply 🙏.
@@edwardsmith9644 Yes, it is the conscious personality attached to the brain that is endowed with knowledge faculties like that of sight etc. that actually sees. What happens is there is a fall into matter of the conscious personalities and they become very matter-like and are unable to exercise their (transcendental) powers of vision etc. So, in this "handicapped" state, the conscious personality needs the help of *sense-organs* to manifest their powers. The function of an organ is to facilitate the expression of the power of the entity to which it is connected. Sight, for example, then becomes possible because of the eye, the organ; but it's not the physical eye that does the seeing!
This is the first time I've seen Robert using his own belief trying to manipulate the interview to confirm his bias towards this topic, which was not pleasant to watch.
...Please I must share this with everyone. When I was younger,and my Grandmother passed. At the viewing I remember how I had a major revelation. That which made my Grandmother who she was did not inhabit her body. The Essence of her was gone. Many years later I had a vision of my family members of which my Grandmother was present. My Grandmother's Essence was reunited with her physical looking body. It was her, complete as I had known her in life, respectfully, Chuck...captivus brevis...Blessings... .
Yes. I understand what you mean. Especially the part where you write "that which made my Grandmother who she was did not inhabit her body. The Essence of her was gone. " God's purpose is love man. Hence life...
The READINESS POTENTIAL is an indication that there is something prior to the Prefrontal cortex making executive decisions. The Soul is the origin of choice so it is the first step in any executive decision making pathway. Wherher the Readiness Potential is detecting the earliest steps in the pathway from Soul to Brain or just an earlier step is yet to be determined so hats off to all the researchers working on this topic.
There is another option. The readiness potential likely originates from the unconscious mind, where 99% of our processing takes place. No need for a “soul”.
@@craigswanson8026 no beacuse the Thalamus blocks out much of the subconscious input and a conscious decision has to start with input that reached the locations where the readiness potential begin.
@@craigswanson8026The readiness potential has been Debunked to be the determinant of the choice. It was mere irrelevant noise. It hasn't to do anything with volitional decisions, sometimes it fired where no action was taken. In serious decisions like in which company to donate many dollars, the readiness potential was gone, yet you camt argue that they chose the fonation subconsciously like sleep walking. Anyways its just a noise , a correlation, not a cause
the only way scientist will be able to prove the existence of a soul; it will be as soon as they invent a MRI machine capable to read the energy of the soul leaving a body. So for now, we will have to rely on NDEs and Mediumships; which in themselves have been telling us a lot info; at least for me.
A fascinating discussion but what was discussed within the nine minutes could have been discussed within two minutes. I wish they had gone deeper to discuss actual cases and why he believes what he says he believes, based upon his clinical observations.
Robert remember don't dichotomize reality. The physical needs the metaphysical to make sense of the world. And vice versa. The analogies are endless but the most obvious in science is that the self and the will to compute the 'Laws' is a metaphysical component of conscious existence, which in themselves confer no darwinian biological survival advantages in the jungle. Think of it this way Robert, what is time itself? What is space itself? And what is self awareness itself? Beyond this the causal properties of existence is quite intriguing and I share in your passions....
It doesn't even need to be _self_ awareness, it just needs to be awareness itself. Conscious experience can occur without any awareness of self. IMHO. 👍
Yes I think to that end there could be three metaphysical subcategories: 1. Self, intentionality, subjectivity, subjective experiences, phenomenology ,the will... . 2. Consciousness itself, inanimate objects versus animate objects, an ecosystem filled with a variety of ' conscious ' species, instinct v. volition. 3. The perception of time, the quality (qualia) versus quantity (physical properties) of existing things in themselves, abstract mathematical models of existence (models of Infinity) quantum tunneling and non-locality, Higgs particle....
The thing is, science and religion are two completely different studies. I think yes, he has found a soul. That is important. Consciousness vs. a soul.
Great interview! Why is he so cautious? I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that it’s because he is a true scientist AND because the data he’s collected blew his mind and reminded him not to make assumptions🤫
I was blessed to have an NDE, Near Death Experience, at age 22. It was amazing and wonderful....I met God. I had an intimate chat with Him.....AND I DID NOT WANT TO RETURN TO MY BODY. I look forward to death now, and I'm certainly not afraid of it!
Yes, i know what you mean. The more family and friends i lose, the more this life loses it's purpose for me and i want to go wherever they went and have no fear in the process. I will live out my natural life as much as i can bare but it just isn't the same for me.
This Dr. right from the beginning got me concerned about his psyche or soul. Arrogant, and talking fast in a way one cannot understand what he was trying to say. Not the words but content How much did he pay for this interview to get his name out there?! For it did not seem he knew a damn thing about life. Doctors are known for disconnecting themselves from their patients. This way, when they kill, somebody won't feel as responsible. If a patient dies out of neglect of their they will not want to feel responsibilities, particularly emotional ones. The interview with him was " much Ado about nothing". Its vibration and frequency from the video can be felt. The first guest that I really felt his thinking pattern. This medical doctor is no scientist and just a "Wana be". No life experience, too immature. He likes to hear himself talk. Metaphysician philosopher
no he's a very upstanding, intelligent doctor doing very good work. If he came off as otherwise you might like to see him on some other videos before you judge. The host, Robert, turned this encounter really negative and honestly I've never seen the host in a state like this. He seems very threatened.
The interesting thing is that when people have out of body experiences and see their own bodies from above- science says that’s not proof of a soul, that’s an illusion . But what is the difference between looking at your own body from above and seeing it as something different from yourself, and looking at your own arms and legs right now as something different than the essence of who you are ? If one were to see a photograph or a video of himself, he might say “that’s me” but that picture or video will still look slightly unfamiliar to yourself. Your own face and body isn’t 100% known to you . And also , I don’t think just simply material flesh according to the laws of physics, would be able to move itself throughout space, and time as a self-contained unit on auto pilot, without an outside source powering it .
Thank you Dr. Sam Parnia, i wish you were the Dr. My son encounter when he passed cuz i honestly feel that the Dr. Who i took him to let him die😭 i feel that you probably had been been able to safe my baby but he is gone😭😭😭 & now my soul is sooooo lost
Experiment: Sing *HU* daily. Search how to sing *HU* . A sonic tuning fork. Safely alter personal frequency. Expand awareness, have experiences/insights. Give great intellect a well deserved rest . "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." - Nikola Tesla. Don't think: Do.
You have consciousness, which is what you are calling your "soul". Can your consciousness persist if your brain ceases to function? No, it cannot. Your consciousness is dependent in fine detail on the physical integrity of your brain. By surgical procedures, it is possible to do such things as to remove selected memories, or delete your ability to recognize faces, while leaving other brain functions intact.
I don't know if I agree with his definition of "soul" being equivalent to "self." It's not that I believe in some individual immoortal soul (I don't), it's that neuroscience has actually shown something akin to what religions like Buddhism have been teaching for thousands of years about the "self." That "self" is defined in these traditions (and in neuroscience) as a sense that one is a separate individual with a type of self "module" somewhere in the head behind the eyes that is controlling everything like a pilot controls a plain, or that we control an avatar in a game. But that doesn't seem to be the case. The most cogent explanations I've come to, that integrate both areas (non-dualistic Eastern religions/spirituality with neuroscience) is that the "self" is a series of patterns of thinking that develop when we are relatively young, cemented by our caregivers, it's about subjectivity - creating a subjective (in terms of the body and mind) perspective that separates us from everything seemingly "outside" of that body/mind. It layers on stories via the building memories within the brain, so it basically is more of a system of various neural patterns in the brain that utilize various aspects of brain processes like memory, visual center (and other perceptual centers), and ties all of these things together and packages them up with a label that says "I" or "Mine." So when we "make decisions" the brain thinks we've made them because this "selfing mechanism" says so, and we believe it, but studies they've conducted with MRIs suggest that decisions sometimes are made up to 6 seconds before the individual is aware they've made such a decision. This is why we often here the phrase in Eastern religions/spirituality that the self is "illusory." It certain "feels" real, but it's a trick that the brain apparently plays on us because it's proven to be very valuable in propagating the species. So when he says it's "obvious that we all have a "self/soul" I would have to disagree with that. I don't think it's obvious and in fact it seems there's a lot of evidence against it at least in the way I'm describing it above. Do we have a "sense of self" - of course, but that isn't the same thing as having a actual "self" (at least in the way I'm defining it above)...
Soul or psyche are material beings, a human soul comprise of two of these entities, as far as Islamic belief is concerned. Each material being is opposite of other, it is like a tug of war between them inspiring thoughts into our mind. In between them, your Creator have the ability to send inspiration to your mind and similarly so can Satan. An American Jewish man, was able to distinguish this inspiration which came from God, which lead him to a miracle in the broad daylight. A U.S military man also posted this same identical event happen to him, related to same identical miracle in the broad daylight. Both claims are posted on YT.
@@rizwanrafeek3811 That's great if you are a believer in some monotheistic god based on something written in an old book, but for those of us who don't (a fairly sizable number and a growing one, at least in the West), this doesn't really do a whole lot. If you already believe in this type of religious framework, then you already presumably believe in an immortal soul. If you are science-based, no number of "broad daylight" "miracles posted to UA-cam are going to convince you...
"So when we "make decisions" the brain thinks we've made them because this "selfing mechanism" says so, and we believe it, but studies they've conducted with MRIs suggest that decisions sometimes are made up to 6 seconds before the individual is aware they've made such a decision." They should do an MRI scan on Yuja Wang when she's playing the piano. Depending on the piece, she's probably playing over a hundred notes in less that 6 seconds. How could her brain make the unconscious decision to play notes before she actually consciously plays them is interesting. Are Eastern philosophies non-dualistic? Hinduism postulates reincarnation, Taoism postulates Yin-Yang dualism, and Buddhism sits on the fence depending on which branch one listens to.
Nobody can study anyone's emotional experiences within someone else's mind, other than the person who has had experiences, and most people would not choose to study their experiences only wish to create new ones 💙💫🙏
What is physical? Something you can see? Colour is created in our minds, what is feeling ? Sensory perceptions? hot and cold also created within the mind, maybe something you can hold or touch, that's also a strong force of repelling energy..What really is physical ?
@@offtheradarsomewhere.the references that you make relate to em impulses that are collected and processed by an intricate structure that self-identifies as physical matter... if you don't want to reference it as matter, then you have to come up with a different reference that equates with exactly the same properties and functionality...
The confusion comes because consciousness quanta have unique creation circumstances and subsequently accumulated experience. To understand the soul, it is important to understand that the vast majority of souls are at the NPC newbie level of consciousness, operating almost entirely on the default programming of their initial and current soul vehicle. Those who are highly resistant to the ideas of reincarnation and higher level souls with greater creative powers are almost certainly such NPC characters in the game of souls, stock characters pulled from the source library of NPC characters know to oneness cultists as the Akashic records. They do not believe because they have not exercised their free will enough to have had any convincing spiritual experiences.
Information is not material in a physical sense. We can recognize existence - objectively or/and subjectively - reality or illusion - only in information mode in our conscious mind. Matter can't objectively recognize or/and subjectively feel information. The existence reality that can recognize and/or feel information, either objectively or subjectively, is what namely as soul. Matter can only serve as carrier of information
In Islam the situation/position of soul of a living person in sleeping and dying states is described in AlQuran; Chapter Az-Zumar, Verse 42: "Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep; then He withholds those on whom He has passed the decree of death and sends the others back till an appointed term; most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect." (English - Shakir) via iQuran
The last words contained the most controversial claim: "The consciousness, psyche, or the soul may continue and may exist independent of brain function." I wonder from which data he concluded this, while his own AWARE II study indicates that brain activity continues even after cardiac arrest during resuscitation, which can explain the near-death experience! It seems to me that his interpretations tend toward religious assumptions.
Research of this kind requires a group people to observe and collect data from over a period of time. Therefore it is not your own work. It's an imagined safe to keep under lock and key. This is not the work of Soul or that which allows the science to properly undertake as an important research expedition.
NO. You are like all life a conscious agent partaking in survival like all creatures. Otherwise you would have to determine why a dinosaur lets say could go to heaven and all other past, present and future life forms also. Its a matter of clarity. This is why you are conscious so you can not only participate in survival itself but it is actually a true representation of survival or elaboration of it also. As without a conscious mode you will not survive, this takes all considerations with it.
Who is the other professor he refers to other than Sir John Eccles? Sounds like Bara Malahi?? but there's nothing out there in the field of consciousness studies pertaining to that name?
The materialists and the war paradigm has dominated public perception and Robert takes the NDE subject on a barren flat land with no resources and says now defend that in the war that the the materialists are already winning! It would be in far better taste to be a sport and look at the provocative questions and ways the NDE subject is capable of attacking some of the smaller hills that the materialist philosophies have claimed. It has been clinically recorded that at least one person "claims" (there were corroborated details that would support the appearance of a sincere claim) to have had an experience ("developed new memories") "while" they were hooked up to an EEG machine displaying "no neuronal activity". Creating new memories while having no neuronal activity should be COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE according to materialist convention as it pertains to neuroscience. *The only weak point to this attack on conventional neuroscience philosophy is that the persons claim is not disprovable, so it would require a significant study to hand wave the formality of materialist worship. Defending this popular convention would bring us closer to truth, but instead Robert steered us closer to popular, with his enquiring minds want to know frame of questions.
Quantum Field Theory has revealed that there can be matter made of other particles that cannot be detected by our matter. Quantum Entanglement indicates that entities can control from a far.
so a collection of trillions of cells, each an unbelievably complicated city of function, somehow creates consciousness? So a child has less consciousness than an adult because they have fewer cells? So a large person has more than a small person?
0:42 ... to defend an immortal soul, SP: well one of the things that I think it's important from a persepective of science um is to be very precise with what we're talking about um and the issues that we're studying now I as a scientist as a physicain you know ... I'm interested in knowing what happens when we die for two reasons one because I my job is to bring people back and prevent brain damage but also my job os tp bring back a person fully conscious with aan active mind psyche uh and to make sure the soul of the person is back inside of it 1:20 ... 3:52 so this is a very important distinction you're making that is you're defining souls as ps which is the self you can make an affirmative strong comment that you that this can exist even though the person is clinically dead for a period of time measured now in hours beyond that you not you can't say but during that time but for other people to use that information to defend their definition of soul is this immortal soul whether it's a platonic or religiously based your data does not support that. 4:26 ... I don't know how our research impacts people's beliefs but what I do think is important is that the first time in history 5:08 our opinions and beliefs should be guided by the results of research rather than the way it is today which is that basically you probablyy have millions or billions of different opinions about what happens when we die so the viewpoint aht I think is probably most consistent with the results of our research so far is the view expressed by eminent scientists such as professor sir John Eol the Nobel Prizer winner uh more recently professor Baram Alahi who's giving a series of lectures at the shorm in Paris which is basically that consciousness psyche the soul exists yet a sparated undiscovered entity to the brain it's most likely a very subtle it's not immaterial it's not weird and magical it's it has some materiality but it's very subtle this is what professor Baram Malahi has proposed and that it is who we are 5:58 um and that it should be studied with the objectivity of science uh rather than the sort of uh vague or you know ways that people discuss it today. 6:08 so at the very best you would say that somebody who believed in an immortal soul in any one of the incarnations um in Christianity or Hinduism or anywhere you find it that at very best your research is neutral on that but it certainly the way you're defining the the subtle material ity of the psyche that can exist beyong clinical death that cannot be used to confirm the existence of an immortal soul as defined by any of these religious groups 6:46 ... 7:12 ... I leave that aside and I commont on the data that we have and the data suggests that consciousness the psyche whatever you want to call it doesn't become annihilated that it's most consistent with certain scientist viewpoints such as professor Barahi Saint John Eo the late sin Eo that it it existts it has some type of materiality mustlikely but it hasn't yet been discovered you know if we fast forward to 50 years from now and we found a tool that could measure your thoughts then all the debate would be gone because what is consciousness what is the soul it's the amalgamation of all you thoughts your feelings your emotions that is it um the reason why we have all these debates and if we do do that then there'll probably be no more different religious viewpoints your question would not be quite the way it is today because then everyone would be able to converge what science has shown about what happens to consciousness and what is the soul what happens when we die 8:02 ❤👉the fundamental distinction will be if that exists the psyche as you've defined it is it material however subtle and however different it is than what we know now if there's a matriality to it it is in contradiction to the traditional at least religious views and some philosophical views of an immortal soul in a dualistic sense becasue when you have if you have slight materiality you're in the material world and you are wholly distinct from the dualistic immortal soul. 8:38 thanks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_grams_experiment
@@mtshasta4195 denying God is only a phase just like it denied Dark Matter but now accepts it. but if you keep searching you will get to God in this life and if not definitely as soon as your eyes close
If this guy was my cardiologist I'd be scared. He's probably waiting for you to die so he can bring you back and add your experience to the data 😂 Reminds me of that movie flatliners.
The University of Virginia School of Medicine studies stories of reincarnation. That's scientific study of stories of reincarnation. Then there are the Edgar Cayce readings: over 14,500 documented psychic readings that individuals may peruse where Cayce described the afterlife and what happens when we die.
Soul or psyche are material beings, a human soul comprise of two of these entities, as far as Islamic belief is concerned. Each material being is opposite of other, it is like a tug of war between them inspiring thoughts into our mind. In between them, your Creator have the ability to send inspiration to your mind and similarly so can Satan. An American Jewish man, was able to distinguish this inspiration which came from God, which lead him to a miracle in the broad daylight. A U.S military man also posted this same identical event happen to him, related to same identical miracle in the broad daylight. Both claims are posted on YT.
This is the best way I can explain this if you have paranormal activity as I say its spirit activity going on in your house... no one can explain how it happen is impossible to figure out and to me that near death going on is very real going to heaven is impossible to figure out. And people say that when there seeing heaven there seeing it just as if they would be looking at someone. Its trying to figure have life was created a sperm egg creates life so how a sperm egg created? Its life god is life we are life and we are all one these events are very real
Everyone has a soul or spirit or higher self or connection to the universe, what ever you want to call it, let's call it consciousness for all people's perceptions, does it matter what happens or where we go when time is up in this world, time is something we can create something beautiful while we are here💙💫🙏
That's not the question. Even the most stubborn materialists today do not doubt the existence of the soul. The debate is whether the soul is a derivative of the brain or something immaterial. If the second. then this is a revolution in science. The author of the channel tried to literally use pincers to extract from Sam that the soul is material, but he was never able to do it.
@@АлександрВладимирович-б4щ Everyone processes information differently, what was the question? I was probably thinking of something else while watching and will have to watch it again..
@@offtheradarsomewhere.Soul is like electricity... When you die the soul will be without identity.... It's like taking battery out of phone... All memory is in the phone... Like that when you die the soul or energy will be no identity no memory.... All identity memory will be in brain with your die.... So soul is same as electricity
It matters because if current actions have consequences in an afterlife then we'd be wise to watch what we do. If consciousness disappears when brains die then there is no concern.
@@ianwaltham1854 what actions?? .... Are you making the sun to shine.... Are you spinning the earth..... Why do you think your action matters in this huge universe
As per Robert at 9:25 "Slight materiality you are in the material World" That is incorrect statement, dark-matter and dark-energy are in the material World? I guess not.
Robert wasted this high quality guest only asking him questions that would most likely make him look stupid. Robert has had several guests that are highly educated high functioning idiots and he asks them questions that are directly in their comfort zone.
The interviewer seems very determined for Dr. Parnia to disprove the immortal soul in religion. I think a religiously oriented person could use this science as vindication for an immortal soul but I don’t think that matters. Dr. Parnia is claiming that he isn’t proving or disproving anyone’s belief, just sharing the data as he finds it. Religious belief varies drastically from individual to individual even under the same faith system. The interviewer is thinking too small and is simply looking for a simple binary answer to “debunk” religion.
Fact. The brain is the interface to an energy being which we really are. We are here temporarily. All our memories and thought processes occur in the soul....not the brain. The brain enables the soul being to be here. We never,..ever..."die". We are not "humans". fact
Only those with anxiety have the potential to rediscover the conscience and thus those left behind.. Christs love goes beyond white and jewish people.. God ask that we decolonize or minds upon opening our hearts to the least among us
A chicken conscious body will run around just after the head had been amputated until it bleeds out but on the second hand the main data inside the chicken brain has already been cut off from the body and the chicken brain is already dead. This is proof that information in the body and brain is generated through electrical waves moving through the entire chicken and if the brain is cut off from the chicken body the brain will die before the body because the body has more blood still running through the body to support the nervous system. My point is really about after death experience and what it could possibly be. A person having memories after death could possibly be triggered through digital information inside the brain or around the body and throughout the facility for example The world is inside a biological an electric magnetic energy bubble with a digital mechanism cascading back and forth through the entire planet with information including man-made information This might sound a little weird; Whenever the neurons stop firing up inside the brain the body work as a back up mechanism for given the brain a jump start but in some cases the body might be a little slow getting back on track and this cause a delay and the brain gets a little cold for bit and the mind temporarily leaves the brain into an energy hologram outside the body this is because the energy field outside the brain is much greater than the brain and body temperature. The hologram is temporarily supported by surrounding energy and different types of atoms branching miles out from the brain and body. Believe it or not this hologram is mimicking the brain and body which is being generated through the power of electrons and their digital connection and permanent foundation for carrying information to and from places like your cell phone and computers and for stabilizing TV broadcasting and anything of mother nature that communicate through biological activities using digital sound waves and vibrations waves. If the mind is outside the body and brain for too long the information will get scrambled with other information and the body and brain will die. If the body and brain can get back on track together they can create the mind again regardless of how long the mind stay gone from the body and brain.
They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about the Soul. Say, “Its nature is known only to my Lord, and you ˹O humanity˺ have been given but little knowledge.” (Quran 17:85)
No, they do mean ‘persons’. Everyday language, of course, will happily talk about one ‘person’ and many ‘people’, but the word ‘persons’ is used to indicate that the more contentious (eg philosophical or legal) sense of ‘person’ is being discussed. It might sound odd, but depending on one’s definition (and application) of the word ‘person’, it might be possible for there to be more or fewer ‘persons’ in a room than there are ‘people’.
If souls are immaterial, they do not need to be immortal in the 'classic' sense. But if immortality is the absence of time and materiality/duality, then souls are beyond both time and duality: that makes them neither classically 'immortal' nor material.
We have zero evidence of any kind of consciousness without a body, no matter how you call it. So-called near-death experiences reveal absolutely nothing about a supposed afterlife. Our consciousness is 100% dependent of our brain, and this can be clearly demonstrated with a hammer at a certain speed directed to a certain part of a human body. Death itself is a process, not something that happens instantaneously when you stop breathing or your heart stops beating. It will take some time for neurons to stop shooting signals after that.
This guy is too naive to speak about soul and super soul; he does not even know where to begin. You need yogis, those who have medidated on the innerself to reflect on what soul is. Immortality of soul is a concept from the 'Sanatana dharma' or loosely called as hinduism+buddhism+jainism. The concept of soul or atman is much deeper that psyche as Greek philosophers put it.
Do we exist in between? Is consciousness like that electric charge in between extremely close, but separate, "Natures"? If that is the case then are there two Natures? Of what do they consist. Does self-consciousness depend on both, but the soul only depend on one Nature?
Conscieuness inst figure out It Though neurosience so far. Guys shows conscieusness as It absolutetly true evidence. He is wrong absolutetly. Neurosience definitions about conscieusness is nil. He doesnt show up consistency evidence about soul because unpredictable conscieusness keep out How show up reality .
The soul ( The self, the ' I ' ), if it is such then it is nothing more than a mix of feelings about the felt and the idea of who we believe ourselves to be. It's nothing magical and only physical in the sense of our brains that does the thinking as well as chemical interactions in the mind and body. Experiments have shown that when a person is clinically classed as being dead, they do not have out of body experiences as a real phenomenon, it is nothing more that the brain/mind and the changes that go on as we die. People want to believe the soul to be something more, something magical or spiritual because to them, it helps feed their belief in life after death as well as perhaps to strengthen their belief with a god or something. People need to face facts, accept that when you die, that is it, there is nothing more. There is no afterlife, your soul isn't reborn. It's like that time 50 years before you were born when there was no you, not even the thought of a potential you. You had no thoughts, no feelings because there was no you to have those things, there was nothing other than the world and people, without you as being a part of it in any way.
Full respect to this man. He talks about what he knows and politely avoids the speculation.
lol, no he doesn't !
Thank you Sam for not getting sucked in and standing on your research!
Exactly. I applaud them for bringing him on. Now bring on the many many others touching on this and other breakthrough topics w ample evidence. Instead of getting some Theologian to explain God like they did once, ughh. Come one man I’ll say it, Parapsychology, get the Scientists research those topics on already!
He always gets someone who has studied religion and starts asking them questions that they have no experience with or evidence of. Meanwhile there are plenty of trained doctors who are investigating Near Death Experience data and also many who are willing to speculate philosophically.
This is the first time he has gotten anyone to talk about life after death who has any reason to have any idea what they are talking about.
@@wagfinpis I sure hope the producers read these comments. It’s about time they get those who are working on bleeding edge breakthrough research. Thank you for the contribution! Scientism is a mind virus of the bad kind!
A Christian scientist posted a video on how a Muslim man ability to identify unwanted spirit in your body and pull them out of you, it was unbias report.
It will make you go, umm how many things the West did not learn from Islam.
This muslim man took on Christian scientist. Then Christian scientist goes on saying, "I don't have recollection of these event took place" but he witness himself in the video after all said and done.
@@wagfinpisAgreed. I truly believe that the experiences of real people during their NDEs are better sources than ancient texts or neurological studies.
As someone getting perhaps cLose to the end of my life (I’m almost 78), I love this video and Dr. Parnia….i find this encouraging and it gives me hope….thank you Robert, and please have Dr. Parnia on again and again…😊❤️👍
Consciousness may be a non local field or dimension that functions separate/outside from Spacetime. Perhaps the brain is a conduit for it.
Metaphor: the mind is a radio receiver; universal consciousness the radio waves that permeate spacetime. Consider consciousness to be fundamental, from consciousness emerge space, time and matter.
[Some radio receivers are powerful and sensitive, able to catch multiple wavebands with great clarity. Others are but cat-whisker crystal sets. As we evolve spiritually, over subsequent incarnations, our consciousness/receiver becomes more powerful/sensitive.]
Prove it or keep your ramblings to yourself
@@Loots1 Disprove it or keep your ramblings to yourself 😂
I think that the brain probably is a conduit for consciousness but also a filter that keeps us from being overwhelmed by all the stimuli around us. This theory was explained by Dr. Bruce Greyson, a neurologist who researches near death experiences (NDE's). Evidence comes from testimonies of people who, after returning from near death, reported that they'd seen colors and heard sounds they'd never perceived before. That consciousness operates outside of spacetime is also supported by NDE'er reports that their experience of time was non-existent while in near death.
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It's interesting that people know things they can't possibly know.
My 33 son died tragically in a foreign country. It took our family 8 weeks to repatriate his body. After his funeral and on the way to the cemetery, 10 weeks after his death, I was overtaken with pain in my abdomen and my head. Within 15 minutes I was unconscious. My son's ashes were in the car with me and my other children. I believed that I was dying. The process of losing consciousness, however was so pleasant and sweet. I can't explain it. The moment after I told my son to drive to the ER, I believe that I experienced dying. I was in the ER for several hours and underwent many tests. The only abnormal medical finding was high blood pressure. I would like to believe that my deceased son came to me for comfort, to tell me that he was not suffering and that death was not the end. But I needed to be close to death to feel him comfort me. That was his last message to me, for now. We miss him every day.
The interviewer seems to be almost desperately seeking confirmation that he will NOT live on after physical death. I'm not sure why. If consciousness survives for hours after physical death, it's quite plausible that it will keep surviving indefinitely. In a different interview, that's what Sam Parnia says--not as a certainty but as a reasonable possibility. There's also the fact that people having these beyond-physical-death experiences often encounter relatives who've been dead for much longer, and also, usually, come out of the experience feeling certain that they themselves will live forever. This is NOT science, but psychologically speaking, it should be respected, since these perceptions are so widespread, cross-cultural, and powerful.
Yeah... I'm glad that Robert has a healthy skepticism, but sometimes I'm like, "Come on man, bring it down a notch." 😆
The study of the Dead should be the next arena of study for scientists!
I agree. There’s a difference between skepticism and just being a denialist. He claims that that if there is any material aspect to consciousness no matter how subtle that it would defy the immortal soul of religion (I don’t see how that necessarily does but whatever) and that the immortal soul of religion is dualistic in thinking, but he does the same thing trying so hard to pin down whether it’s material or not material which is exactly what dualism is😂
Crisp and clear. You have to respect it. No hiding behind the Great Gamagoo or whatever other foil of choice is available
if you believe that only the material exists, then how can you ever bridge the gap to the immaterial? By pointing out the existence of thoughts (non material), emotions (non material), motivations (non material), hopes, aspirations, dreams, empathy, ... the list goes on. Proof that the immaterial exists.
I wonder why the interviewer tries so desperately to make him say that his research does't even suggest at least some time of psyche's continual . Well, if we take as a fact that it continues for x hours why we exclude that it can't continue for x+1 second
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exactly
I have never seen the host of this program so off the rails! He's absolutely harassing this doctor and "hell" bent on trying to force him to say some vague thing that he doesn't want to say. I enjoyed Closer to The Truth and I get that he's a "sceptic" or athiest or whatever he's promoting himself as but until this episode I've not seen him being so compulsive about putting down his "straw man" in his straw man argument about the hypothetical believer he's got in mind. Really poor showing and I don't like to trash good programs lightly but this doctor is very excellent as a professional and as a communicator and he's reporting some very important medical news which seems to feel very threatening to the host.
- Spirit: Any source of energy or influence that acts upon or filters through a specific toroidal system (a soul).
- Soul: Any toroidal system designed to receive, interpret, transmit, and/or transform spirits.
- Body: Any structure designed to protect and host a soul.
- Angel: Any process in which a spirit and soul interact.
Some examples of spirits would be electromagnetism, water, blood, words, ideas, etc.
Some examples of souls would be stars, planets, brains, dams, etc.
you dropped your brain
@@SenorCinema With an empty comment like that, are you sure it’s not *you* that has dropped yours? Provide a cogent rebuttal, or refrain from commenting at all.
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Nope.
The soul is part of the spirit categoriy.
A spirit & body are subcategoreies of the Mind Categorie.
Man is a subcategory of the Inteligence Category.
God & Angels are entirely spirits.
And only an inelligence makes, operates, imporves Functions due to the Informaiton all Functions possess to exist & to function.
But you must start with the simple fact that Man is the only known NATURAL intelligence in a Universe when everything is a NATURAL Function, including Man's body with information that can only come from the Mind of an intelligence.
Universal Functions is the proof of God, spirits & souls btw .. and is the only way youcan use natural laws to ove the unnatural.
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I can't help sense mr Parnia personally believes the Soul goes on. But he is 100 per cent correct not to jump to that conclusion in the interest of true science.
the only way scientist will be able to prove the existence of a soul; it will be as soon as they invent a MRI machine capable to read the energy of the soul leaving a body. So for now, we will have to rely on NDEs and Mediumships; which in themselves have been telling us a lot info; at least for me.
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In the meantime, waiting for science to definitively prove the existence of the soul and build the machine, we who have faith will keep on believing without the need of it and going on.
Yes, NDE has already given concrete ancillary evidences to the old knowledge that _the mind is not dependent of the brain_ , thus it might be possible one day to arrive at one indisputable consensus.
But on a second thought, what use would humanity make of that knowledge that it doesn't already have?
Is the proof itself that would silence the naysayers or is there more behind the quest for it?
@@rodneycarvalho6052 this is a dualistic approach.
The whole division between 'physical' and 'non-physical' (or material and immaterial) is historically very blurred anyway. The notion of invisible infinitely extending fields that permeate the whole universe and interact with 'matter' (e.g. like gravity) was once looked down on as a semi-religious notion because notable thinkers at that time defined 'physical' as strictly-speaking tangible and mechanistic (that is to say - only able to exert influence by direct contact). That historical notion is now rejected. But rather than saying that 'immaterial invisible fields exist', we instead simply re-defined what we meant by physical so that these phenomena could be included. Essentially - the point is that we should be slightly less obsessive by whether something is physical/material or not as these definitions get reshaped over time. The relevant question is not whether the mind/soul/psyche is physical, but rather "is it real?" "is there any data to support it?" "does that phenomena (whether physical or not) persist after a certain point in time which we call clinical death?". It would seem, albeit tentatively, that the answer to these questions is 'yes'.
Excellent point!
Why does it seem strange that the psyche should survive after clinical death - provided the person does not remain dead? The psyche is derived from the person's biology, and that biology did not remain dead, so certainly the psyche should be retained.
Talk to me when you have evidence of an extant non-biologically dependent psyche - that is, a psyche that survives the permanent death of the supporting biology.
Also, I find Sam's suggestion of a psyche that doesn't exist within the brain to be ridiculous. If it's not in the brain, then where else can it be - the spinal column perhaps? Regardless of that, I am onboard with the need for further research and analysis into how the psyche/mind functions from a biological or mechanistic perspective.
I do not expect it will be determined to exist, or can exist, outside the brain.
@@jflnote3901 Sam actually can't be wrong cause he never suggested anything that he didn't provide with clear data on.
@@joeclark1621 You resurrected this thread just to say that? SMH.
@@jflnote3901 Well what did I say that's wrong? He provided discovery parallel with what his medical data study showed him. He didn't go further than that at all, in fact, he didn't even speculate what he could've speculated based on what his data showed. You reject the idea that the psyche persist after physical death well if his studies showed that even several minutes after brain death, consciousness persists, should he reject that too just to satisfy your materialistic reductionist worldview bullshit narrative?
The increasing encounters between animals and humans (captured on video) which seem to rely on a communication between the animal and human, might also demonstrate a consciousness outside of the verbal and tangible.
If humans have souls, it's fair to ask: do all animals have souls too? Because, humans are animals.
Yes.
If we do then they do because they're conscious like us.
Soul is like electricity... When you die the soul will be without identity.... It's like taking battery out of phone... All memory is in the phone... Like that when you die the soul or energy will be no identity no memory.... All identity memory will be in brain with your die.... So soul is just a energy giving your body life
@@halcyon2864 but we cannot control soul... or we could bring people back to life
Absolutely
The brain is actually the best representation of all matter. It is neuronal. Neurons are cells having only two features that may be said to account for our conscious self. These two features are the axon and the dendrites. These are only part of a signal generating (or inhibiting) and propagating mechanism.
Whenever our sensory organs come into contact with an object, the sense-data pertaining to this object is _experienced_ and _felt_ by the self. This experience is undeniable. But the neurons will only _relay_ and _convey_ , _route_ and _reroute_ the sense-data over the nervous system. From the location of the sensory receptors right up to the highest point of the cerebral cortex, there is only relay. The neurons in the cerebral cortex do exactly the same job (of signal propagation) that the neurons at the bottom most level of the hierarchy are doing viz. only relaying.
So, quite clearly, there is an UNBRIDGEABLE GAP here. On the one hand, conscious experience is undeniable. On the other hand, there are entities acting only as the conveyor (not experiencer) of data. Therefore, in order to bridge this gap, we *must* introduce into the picture an entity that is conscious by nature and which must experience and perceive the sense-data brought in by the neurons (in the form of signals).
It is this conscious entity, which lies above all matter but still is connected to its best representation, the brain, that was given the name of " *soul* " by the ancient philosopher-scientists.
How would you explain a person blind from birth who can suddenly “see” during an NDE? They never developed the ability to process visual signals. Many NDEs counter the notion that consciousness is strictly in the brain. Don’t take my word for it; spend some time looking into them. Very compelling.
All the activity you see in the brain is just an image, a representation of consciousness that is presented to us across disassociative boundary, but this image itself is not consciousness, it's only the image of it, one representation of the mental process. What you described is basically "The BIG problem of consciousness" coined by Chalmers. It sure is a big problem, i dont see it as a bridgable gap if you believe in materialism.
@@edwardsmith9644 because materialism is metaphysics that just don't work. IMHO idealism comes closer to truth.
@@Simon-xi8tb Yes, very correct. It's totally unbridgeable. An extra entity, conscious by nature (immaterial), must be introduced. Thanks for your reply 🙏.
@@edwardsmith9644 Yes, it is the conscious personality attached to the brain that is endowed with knowledge faculties like that of sight etc. that actually sees. What happens is there is a fall into matter of the conscious personalities and they become very matter-like and are unable to exercise their (transcendental) powers of vision etc. So, in this "handicapped" state, the conscious personality needs the help of *sense-organs* to manifest their powers. The function of an organ is to facilitate the expression of the power of the entity to which it is connected. Sight, for example, then becomes possible because of the eye, the organ; but it's not the physical eye that does the seeing!
This is the first time I've seen Robert using his own belief trying to manipulate the interview to confirm his bias towards this topic, which was not pleasant to watch.
I agree completely. I'm glad Sam did not take Robert's bait, and fall for his physicalist reductionism.
That is the only reason I am reading the comments. To see if anyone else picked up on that.
...Please I must share this with everyone. When I was younger,and my Grandmother passed. At the viewing I remember how I had a major revelation. That which made my Grandmother who she was did not inhabit her body. The Essence of her was gone. Many years later I had a vision of my family members of which my Grandmother was present. My Grandmother's Essence was reunited with her physical looking body. It was her, complete as I had known her in life, respectfully, Chuck...captivus brevis...Blessings...
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Yes. I understand what you mean. Especially the part where you write "that which made my Grandmother who she was did not inhabit her body. The Essence of her was gone. " God's purpose is love man. Hence life...
The problem with avoiding philosophy is that without philosophy you wouldn't have a scientific method to begin with!
The READINESS POTENTIAL is an indication that there is something prior to the Prefrontal cortex making executive decisions. The Soul is the origin of choice so it is the first step in any executive decision making pathway. Wherher the Readiness Potential is detecting the earliest steps in the pathway from Soul to Brain or just an earlier step is yet to be determined so hats off to all the researchers working on this topic.
There is another option. The readiness potential likely originates from the unconscious mind, where 99% of our processing takes place. No need for a “soul”.
@@craigswanson8026 no beacuse the Thalamus blocks out much of the subconscious input and a conscious decision has to start with input that reached the locations where the readiness potential begin.
@@craigswanson8026The readiness potential has been Debunked to be the determinant of the choice. It was mere irrelevant noise. It hasn't to do anything with volitional decisions, sometimes it fired where no action was taken. In serious decisions like in which company to donate many dollars, the readiness potential was gone, yet you camt argue that they chose the fonation subconsciously like sleep walking. Anyways its just a noise , a correlation, not a cause
this shouldn't even be up for debate at this point. I know for a fact it exists . cmon guy s
Share your fact
@@markb3786. The information is right in front of you. Just research Dr Patina’s work.
the only way scientist will be able to prove the existence of a soul; it will be as soon as they invent a MRI machine capable to read the energy of the soul leaving a body. So for now, we will have to rely on NDEs and Mediumships; which in themselves have been telling us a lot info; at least for me.
A fascinating discussion but what was discussed within the nine minutes could have been discussed within two minutes. I wish they had gone deeper to discuss actual cases and why he believes what he says he believes, based upon his clinical observations.
Robert remember don't dichotomize reality. The physical needs the metaphysical to make sense of the world. And vice versa. The analogies are endless but the most obvious in science is that the self and the will to compute the 'Laws' is a metaphysical component of conscious existence, which in themselves confer no darwinian biological survival advantages in the jungle.
Think of it this way Robert, what is time itself? What is space itself? And what is self awareness itself?
Beyond this the causal properties of existence is quite intriguing and I share in your passions....
It doesn't even need to be _self_ awareness, it just needs to be awareness itself. Conscious experience can occur without any awareness of self.
IMHO. 👍
Yes I think to that end there could be three metaphysical subcategories:
1. Self, intentionality, subjectivity, subjective experiences, phenomenology ,the will... .
2. Consciousness itself, inanimate objects versus animate objects, an ecosystem filled with a variety of ' conscious ' species, instinct v. volition.
3. The perception of time, the quality (qualia) versus quantity (physical properties) of existing things in themselves, abstract mathematical models of existence (models of Infinity) quantum tunneling and non-locality, Higgs particle....
The thing is, science and religion are two completely different studies. I think yes, he has found a soul. That is important. Consciousness vs. a soul.
Great interview! Why is he so cautious? I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that it’s because he is a true scientist AND because the data he’s collected blew his mind and reminded him not to make assumptions🤫
I was blessed to have an NDE, Near Death Experience, at age 22.
It was amazing and wonderful....I met God. I had an intimate chat with Him.....AND I DID NOT WANT TO RETURN TO MY BODY.
I look forward to death now, and I'm certainly not afraid of it!
Yes, i know what you mean. The more family and friends i lose, the more this life loses it's purpose for me and i want to go wherever they went and have no fear in the process. I will live out my natural life as much as i can bare but it just isn't the same for me.
This Dr. right from the beginning got me concerned about his psyche or soul.
Arrogant, and talking fast in a way one cannot understand what he was trying to say. Not the words but content
How much did he pay for this interview to get his name out there?!
For it did not seem he knew a damn thing about life.
Doctors are known for disconnecting themselves from their patients. This way, when they kill, somebody won't feel as responsible. If a patient dies out of neglect of their they will not want to feel responsibilities, particularly emotional ones.
The interview with him was " much Ado about nothing".
Its vibration and frequency from the video can be felt.
The first guest that I really felt his thinking pattern.
This medical doctor is no scientist and just a "Wana be". No life experience, too immature.
He likes to hear himself talk.
Metaphysician philosopher
You are just afraid of what you do not know.
no he's a very upstanding, intelligent doctor doing very good work. If he came off as otherwise you might like to see him on some other videos before you judge. The host, Robert, turned this encounter really negative and honestly I've never seen the host in a state like this. He seems very threatened.
Calling Dr. Parnia arrogant is wild😂
You need a reality check
@@AAA9549-w7w Parnia is arrogant?allright that was good 🤣
The interesting thing is that when people have out of body experiences and see their own bodies from above- science says that’s not proof of a soul, that’s an illusion . But what is the difference between looking at your own body from above and seeing it as something different from yourself, and looking at your own arms and legs right now as something different than the essence of who you are ? If one were to see a photograph or a video of himself, he might say “that’s me” but that picture or video will still look slightly unfamiliar to yourself. Your own face and body isn’t 100% known to you . And also , I don’t think just simply material flesh according to the laws of physics, would be able to move itself throughout space, and time as a self-contained unit on auto pilot, without an outside source powering it .
Thank you Dr. Sam Parnia, i wish you were the Dr. My son encounter when he passed cuz i honestly feel that the Dr. Who i took him to let him die😭 i feel that you probably had been been able to safe my baby but he is gone😭😭😭 & now my soul is sooooo lost
The soul is just like neutrinos. Very hard to detect.
Experiment: Sing *HU* daily. Search how to sing *HU* . A sonic tuning fork. Safely alter personal frequency. Expand awareness, have experiences/insights. Give great intellect a well deserved rest . "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." - Nikola Tesla. Don't think: Do.
Lord Krishna says we do not have souls rather we are souls.
Indian elephants have souls.
@@skwalka6372 Ya i understand you are a very big intellectual, so big just like a elephant's head much bigger than a human"s head in size
Yes it can't be some kind of possession we have. We're spiritual beings experiencing a physical existence.
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@@skwalka6372And big ears
Define MATERIAL....dark matter is material but not interacting.
You have consciousness, which is what you are calling your "soul". Can your consciousness persist if your brain ceases to function? No, it cannot. Your consciousness is dependent in fine detail on the physical integrity of your brain. By surgical procedures, it is possible to do such things as to remove selected memories, or delete your ability to recognize faces, while leaving other brain functions intact.
I don't know if I agree with his definition of "soul" being equivalent to "self." It's not that I believe in some individual immoortal soul (I don't), it's that neuroscience has actually shown something akin to what religions like Buddhism have been teaching for thousands of years about the "self." That "self" is defined in these traditions (and in neuroscience) as a sense that one is a separate individual with a type of self "module" somewhere in the head behind the eyes that is controlling everything like a pilot controls a plain, or that we control an avatar in a game. But that doesn't seem to be the case. The most cogent explanations I've come to, that integrate both areas (non-dualistic Eastern religions/spirituality with neuroscience) is that the "self" is a series of patterns of thinking that develop when we are relatively young, cemented by our caregivers, it's about subjectivity - creating a subjective (in terms of the body and mind) perspective that separates us from everything seemingly "outside" of that body/mind. It layers on stories via the building memories within the brain, so it basically is more of a system of various neural patterns in the brain that utilize various aspects of brain processes like memory, visual center (and other perceptual centers), and ties all of these things together and packages them up with a label that says "I" or "Mine." So when we "make decisions" the brain thinks we've made them because this "selfing mechanism" says so, and we believe it, but studies they've conducted with MRIs suggest that decisions sometimes are made up to 6 seconds before the individual is aware they've made such a decision.
This is why we often here the phrase in Eastern religions/spirituality that the self is "illusory." It certain "feels" real, but it's a trick that the brain apparently plays on us because it's proven to be very valuable in propagating the species. So when he says it's "obvious that we all have a "self/soul" I would have to disagree with that. I don't think it's obvious and in fact it seems there's a lot of evidence against it at least in the way I'm describing it above. Do we have a "sense of self" - of course, but that isn't the same thing as having a actual "self" (at least in the way I'm defining it above)...
Soul or psyche are material beings, a human soul comprise of two of these entities, as far as Islamic belief is concerned.
Each material being is opposite of other, it is like a tug of war between them inspiring thoughts into our mind.
In between them, your Creator have the ability to send inspiration to your mind and similarly so can Satan.
An American Jewish man, was able to distinguish this inspiration which came from God, which lead him to a miracle in the broad daylight.
A U.S military man also posted this same identical event happen to him, related to same identical miracle in the broad daylight. Both claims are posted on YT.
@@rizwanrafeek3811 That's great if you are a believer in some monotheistic god based on something written in an old book, but for those of us who don't (a fairly sizable number and a growing one, at least in the West), this doesn't really do a whole lot. If you already believe in this type of religious framework, then you already presumably believe in an immortal soul. If you are science-based, no number of "broad daylight" "miracles posted to UA-cam are going to convince you...
@@dvdmon It isn't just broad daylight miracle counts bur rather it came from former ""enemies""" of Muslims, point is that claims were unbias.
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"So when we "make decisions" the brain thinks we've made them because this "selfing mechanism" says so, and we believe it, but studies they've conducted with MRIs suggest that decisions sometimes are made up to 6 seconds before the individual is aware they've made such a decision."
They should do an MRI scan on Yuja Wang when she's playing the piano. Depending on the piece, she's probably playing over a hundred notes in less that 6 seconds. How could her brain make the unconscious decision to play notes before she actually consciously plays them is interesting.
Are Eastern philosophies non-dualistic? Hinduism postulates reincarnation, Taoism postulates Yin-Yang dualism, and Buddhism sits on the fence depending on which branch one listens to.
Humans have great predispositions towards their beings that must be taken into account with the data that is studied.
Nobody can study anyone's emotional experiences within someone else's mind, other than the person who has had experiences, and most people would not choose to study their experiences only wish to create new ones 💙💫🙏
Who listens to the voice in our head? Our soul. Us 🌞🤝🌞🤝🌞
A percentage of the population doesn't have inner monologue. Are you implying they don't have souls?
@@Niaaal Quite the opposite. They have direct access to their souls without all the noise 🌞🤝🌞
8:52 is the role of a conscious observer the key element in the study of consciousness from a physical perspective 🤔
What is physical? Something you can see? Colour is created in our minds, what is feeling ? Sensory perceptions? hot and cold also created within the mind, maybe something you can hold or touch, that's also a strong force of repelling energy..What really is physical ?
@@offtheradarsomewhere.the references that you make relate to em impulses that are collected and processed by an intricate structure that self-identifies as physical matter... if you don't want to reference it as matter, then you have to come up with a different reference that equates with exactly the same properties and functionality...
@@r2c3 condensed energy.. some say potato some say potatoes 😂🤣🙏
The confusion comes because consciousness quanta have unique creation circumstances and subsequently accumulated experience. To understand the soul, it is important to understand that the vast majority of souls are at the NPC newbie level of consciousness, operating almost entirely on the default programming of their initial and current soul vehicle. Those who are highly resistant to the ideas of reincarnation and higher level souls with greater creative powers are almost certainly such NPC characters in the game of souls, stock characters pulled from the source library of NPC characters know to oneness cultists as the Akashic records.
They do not believe because they have not exercised their free will enough to have had any convincing spiritual experiences.
Information is not material in a physical sense. We can recognize existence - objectively or/and subjectively - reality or illusion - only in information mode in our conscious mind.
Matter can't objectively recognize or/and subjectively feel information.
The existence reality that can recognize and/or feel information, either objectively or subjectively, is what namely as soul. Matter can only serve as carrier of information
Exactly.
In Islam the situation/position of soul of a living person in sleeping and dying states is described in AlQuran;
Chapter Az-Zumar, Verse 42:
"Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep; then He withholds those on whom He has passed the decree of death and sends the others back till an appointed term; most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect."
(English - Shakir)
via iQuran
The last words contained the most controversial claim: "The consciousness, psyche, or the soul may continue and may exist independent of brain function." I wonder from which data he concluded this, while his own AWARE II study indicates that brain activity continues even after cardiac arrest during resuscitation, which can explain the near-death experience! It seems to me that his interpretations tend toward religious assumptions.
I wonder why you are saying that his own aware II study suggest what you are saying it suggests . When in fact it does not
This interview done is a crystal shop’s back room?
Research of this kind requires a group people to observe and collect data from over a period of time. Therefore it is not your own work. It's an imagined safe to keep under lock and key. This is not the work of Soul or that which allows the science to properly undertake as an important research expedition.
How can there be a materiality to the non material?
No
NO. You are like all life a conscious agent partaking in survival like all creatures. Otherwise you would have to determine why a dinosaur lets say could go to heaven and all other past, present and future life forms also. Its a matter of clarity. This is why you are conscious so you can not only participate in survival itself but it is actually a true representation of survival or elaboration of it also. As without a conscious mode you will not survive, this takes all considerations with it.
Who is the other professor he refers to other than Sir John Eccles? Sounds like Bara Malahi?? but there's nothing out there in the field of consciousness studies pertaining to that name?
The materialists and the war paradigm has dominated public perception and Robert takes the NDE subject on a barren flat land with no resources and says now defend that in the war that the the materialists are already winning!
It would be in far better taste to be a sport and look at the provocative questions and ways the NDE subject is capable of attacking some of the smaller hills that the materialist philosophies have claimed.
It has been clinically recorded that at least one person "claims" (there were corroborated details that would support the appearance of a sincere claim) to have had an experience ("developed new memories") "while" they were hooked up to an EEG machine displaying "no neuronal activity".
Creating new memories while having no neuronal activity should be COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE according to materialist convention as it pertains to neuroscience. *The only weak point to this attack on conventional neuroscience philosophy is that the persons claim is not disprovable, so it would require a significant study to hand wave the formality of materialist worship.
Defending this popular convention would bring us closer to truth, but instead Robert steered us closer to popular, with his enquiring minds want to know frame of questions.
Facts!
Quantum Field Theory has revealed that there can be matter made of other particles that cannot be detected by our matter.
Quantum Entanglement indicates that entities can control from a far.
Can you get Michael Levin on, he won’t tell you in your face but his work will help understand NDE’s & OBE’s I believe.
You don't HAVE a soul; you ARE a soul.
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It seems that Iranians are waiting to hear more.
I was born in Persia (Iran). I comprehend the Iranian psyche, and as a US citizen, I also comprehend the American psyche. I am familiar with the human psyche and, in many cases, even the animal psyche.
Believe it or not,
This doctor is discussing something he knows nothing about.
Just as I do not know about brain surgery, anticipate that learning surgery requires training. Nevertheless, to be a philosopher is inherent, and to be a metaphysician is not a choice one makes for oneself.
*Please read this carefully:
He is discussing the soul, and his statements lead me to believe that
Doctor Sam Paranoia does not understand what a soul is.
Who has explained what the self is?
Furthermore, who has proclaimed that the soul is self?
Who has said that the Psyche would necessarily be a soul or self?
Does the soul or psyche have to be religious or to be?
I do not agree with that.
Also, who said that the soul is a conscious being?
While science has not proven the existence of a soul, I am certain that it exists, just like I do not believe in God, yet I know that God exists.
"In my metaphysical philosophy, which is closer to true science, the mind, brain, spirit, and soul are not the same and are not necessarily dependent on each other".
This realization comes from my research and knowledge, experience, and wisdom". ©
I am working to help humanity here as I am living amongst humanity in this fifth world also.
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What's a soul?
so a collection of trillions of cells, each an unbelievably complicated city of function, somehow creates consciousness? So a child has less consciousness than an adult because they have fewer cells? So a large person has more than a small person?
0:42 ... to defend an immortal soul, SP: well one of the things that I think it's important from a persepective of science um is to be very precise with what we're talking about um and the issues that we're studying now I as a scientist as a physicain you know ... I'm interested in knowing what happens when we die for two reasons one because I my job is to bring people back and prevent brain damage but also my job os tp bring back a person fully conscious with aan active mind psyche uh and to make sure the soul of the person is back inside of it 1:20 ... 3:52 so this is a very important distinction you're making that is you're defining souls as ps which is the self you can make an affirmative strong comment that you that this can exist even though the person is clinically dead for a period of time measured now in hours beyond that you not you can't say but during that time but for other people to use that information to defend their definition of soul is this immortal soul whether it's a platonic or religiously based your data does not support that. 4:26 ... I don't know how our research impacts people's beliefs but what I do think is important is that the first time in history 5:08 our opinions and beliefs should be guided by the results of research rather than the way it is today which is that basically you probablyy have millions or billions of different opinions about what happens when we die so the viewpoint aht I think is probably most consistent with the results of our research so far is the view expressed by eminent scientists such as professor sir John Eol the Nobel Prizer winner uh more recently professor Baram Alahi who's giving a series of lectures at the shorm in Paris which is basically that consciousness psyche the soul exists yet a sparated undiscovered entity to the brain it's most likely a very subtle it's not immaterial it's not weird and magical it's it has some materiality but it's very subtle this is what professor Baram Malahi has proposed and that it is who we are 5:58 um and that it should be studied with the objectivity of science uh rather than the sort of uh vague or you know ways that people discuss it today. 6:08 so at the very best you would say that somebody who believed in an immortal soul in any one of the incarnations um in Christianity or Hinduism or anywhere you find it that at very best your research is neutral on that but it certainly the way you're defining the the subtle material ity of the psyche that can exist beyong clinical death that cannot be used to confirm the existence of an immortal soul as defined by any of these religious groups 6:46 ... 7:12 ... I leave that aside and I commont on the data that we have and the data suggests that consciousness the psyche whatever you want to call it doesn't become annihilated that it's most consistent with certain scientist viewpoints such as professor Barahi Saint John Eo the late sin Eo that it it existts it has some type of materiality mustlikely but it hasn't yet been discovered you know if we fast forward to 50 years from now and we found a tool that could measure your thoughts then all the debate would be gone because what is consciousness what is the soul it's the amalgamation of all you thoughts your feelings your emotions that is it um the reason why we have all these debates and if we do do that then there'll probably be no more different religious viewpoints your question would not be quite the way it is today because then everyone would be able to converge what science has shown about what happens to consciousness and what is the soul what happens when we die 8:02 ❤👉the fundamental distinction will be if that exists the psyche as you've defined it is it material however subtle and however different it is than what we know now if there's a matriality to it it is in contradiction to the traditional at least religious views and some philosophical views of an immortal soul in a dualistic sense becasue when you have if you have slight materiality you're in the material world and you are wholly distinct from the dualistic immortal soul. 8:38 thanks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_grams_experiment
The doctor is saying Consciousness survives after initial apparent bodily death. Thats proof in favor of religion than host.
The only souls we have are on the bottom of our feet, oh and a ar*esoul
Science is the study of the Creation of God and a way to reach God.
Or to deny God..
@@mtshasta4195 denying God is only a phase just like it denied Dark Matter but now accepts it. but if you keep searching you will get to God in this life and if not definitely as soon as your eyes close
Obviously souls do exist, anima ... that is what makes matter alive, animated.
It's not do people have souls? It's, is the person itself the soul?
Is there something else? Check out the Bigelow essays
Know spirit and applying spirituality will become easy.
I suppose this video would be shorter if he interviewed an atheist. No, there is no evidence for a "soul".
If this guy was my cardiologist I'd be scared. He's probably waiting for you to die so he can bring you back and add your experience to the data 😂 Reminds me of that movie flatliners.
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Everybody is confused about what the "soul" is; the "soul" is nothing more than the force that animates life; chiggers have souls.
The University of Virginia School of Medicine studies stories of reincarnation. That's scientific study of stories of reincarnation.
Then there are the Edgar Cayce readings: over 14,500 documented psychic readings that individuals may peruse where Cayce described the afterlife and what happens when we die.
The word soul is used carelessly in English language; same as love which they often use for lust and many other worldly desires.
Soul or psyche are material beings, a human soul comprise of two of these entities, as far as Islamic belief is concerned.
Each material being is opposite of other, it is like a tug of war between them inspiring thoughts into our mind.
In between them, your Creator have the ability to send inspiration to your mind and similarly so can Satan.
An American Jewish man, was able to distinguish this inspiration which came from God, which lead him to a miracle in the broad daylight.
A U.S military man also posted this same identical event happen to him, related to same identical miracle in the broad daylight. Both claims are posted on YT.
This is the best way I can explain this if you have paranormal activity as I say its spirit activity going on in your house... no one can explain how it happen is impossible to figure out and to me that near death going on is very real going to heaven is impossible to figure out. And people say that when there seeing heaven there seeing it just as if they would be looking at someone. Its trying to figure have life was created a sperm egg creates life so how a sperm egg created? Its life god is life we are life and we are all one these events are very real
Game over for Tesla!
REINCARNATION IS THE MOST DIRECT PROOF OF SOUL VIA RECOGNITION OF UNKNOWN INFORMATION.
The work of Peter Fenwick is the best evidence for Consciousness survival of physical death
Interesting. Would loved to have heard more about the data.
The interviewer is a non believer, and want Parnia to comfirm it… but he can’t the only thing he can comfirm is that there is a soul…
Everyone has a soul or spirit or higher self or connection to the universe, what ever you want to call it, let's call it consciousness for all people's perceptions, does it matter what happens or where we go when time is up in this world, time is something we can create something beautiful while we are here💙💫🙏
That's not the question. Even the most stubborn materialists today do not doubt the existence of the soul. The debate is whether the soul is a derivative of the brain or something immaterial. If the second. then this is a revolution in science. The author of the channel tried to literally use pincers to extract from Sam that the soul is material, but he was never able to do it.
@@АлександрВладимирович-б4щ Everyone processes information differently, what was the question? I was probably thinking of something else while watching and will have to watch it again..
@@offtheradarsomewhere.Soul is like electricity... When you die the soul will be without identity.... It's like taking battery out of phone... All memory is in the phone... Like that when you die the soul or energy will be no identity no memory.... All identity memory will be in brain with your die.... So soul is same as electricity
It matters because if current actions have consequences in an afterlife then we'd be wise to watch what we do. If consciousness disappears when brains die then there is no concern.
@@ianwaltham1854 what actions?? .... Are you making the sun to shine.... Are you spinning the earth..... Why do you think your action matters in this huge universe
As per Robert at 9:25 "Slight materiality you are in the material World"
That is incorrect statement, dark-matter and dark-energy are in the material World? I guess not.
Yes,they are...but not proven yet.
psyche has awareness of mass in brain?
Robert wasted this high quality guest only asking him questions that would most likely make him look stupid.
Robert has had several guests that are highly educated high functioning idiots and he asks them questions that are directly in their comfort zone.
The interviewer seems very determined for Dr. Parnia to disprove the immortal soul in religion.
I think a religiously oriented person could use this science as vindication for an immortal soul but I don’t think that matters.
Dr. Parnia is claiming that he isn’t proving or disproving anyone’s belief, just sharing the data as he finds it.
Religious belief varies drastically from individual to individual even under the same faith system. The interviewer is thinking too small and is simply looking for a simple binary answer to “debunk” religion.
Science is philosophy
Fact. The brain is the interface to an energy being which we really are. We are here temporarily. All our memories and thought processes occur in the soul....not the brain. The brain enables the soul being to be here. We never,..ever..."die". We are not "humans". fact
Only those with anxiety have the potential to rediscover the conscience and thus those left behind..
Christs love goes beyond white and jewish people..
God ask that we decolonize or minds upon opening our hearts to the least among us
The conscience is a cathedral of voices of those left behind.. our ancestors
@@TheWay-u1n, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
"the subtle materiality of the psyche"? What is he talking about? The psyche is not material.
A chicken conscious body will run around just after the head had been amputated until it bleeds out but on the second hand the main data inside the chicken brain has already been cut off from the body and the chicken brain is already dead.
This is proof that information in the body and brain is generated through electrical waves moving through the entire chicken and if the brain is cut off from the chicken body the brain will die before the body because the body has more blood still running through the body to support the nervous system.
My point is really about after death experience and what it could possibly be.
A person having memories after death could possibly be triggered through digital information inside the brain or around the body and throughout the facility for example
The world is inside a biological an electric magnetic energy bubble with a digital mechanism cascading back and forth through the entire planet with information including man-made information
This might sound a little weird;
Whenever the neurons stop firing up inside the brain the body work as a back up mechanism for given the brain a jump start but in some cases the body might be a little slow getting back on track and this cause a delay and the brain gets a little cold for bit and the mind temporarily leaves the brain into an energy hologram outside the body this is because the energy field outside the brain is much greater than the brain and body temperature.
The hologram is temporarily supported by surrounding energy and different types of atoms branching miles out from the brain and body.
Believe it or not this hologram is mimicking the brain and body which is being generated through the power of electrons and their digital connection and permanent foundation for carrying information to and from places like your cell phone and computers and for stabilizing TV broadcasting and anything of mother nature that communicate through biological activities using digital sound waves and vibrations waves.
If the mind is outside the body and brain for too long the information will get scrambled with other information and the body and brain will die. If the body and brain can get back on track together they can create the mind again regardless of how long the mind stay gone from the body and brain.
And what the hell does that have to do with a soul??
It would be nice if your soul is immortal but I’m sure once we understand what it is, unfortunately it will be part of our mortal body.
They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about the Soul. Say, “Its nature is known only to my Lord, and you ˹O humanity˺ have been given but little knowledge.”
(Quran 17:85)
Sam set this dude straight not seeing through his own biases. This bias is what’s held the field back for so long. Dumb scientists.
How he literally pulled out of him with pincers that consciousness is material, but they never pulled it out. The armor is strong :-))
Do you mean 'people?' ... 'Do people have souls ?'
No, they do mean ‘persons’. Everyday language, of course, will happily talk about one ‘person’ and many ‘people’, but the word ‘persons’ is used to indicate that the more contentious (eg philosophical or legal) sense of ‘person’ is being discussed. It might sound odd, but depending on one’s definition (and application) of the word ‘person’, it might be possible for there to be more or fewer ‘persons’ in a room than there are ‘people’.
If souls are immaterial, they do not need to be immortal in the 'classic' sense. But if immortality is the absence of time and materiality/duality, then souls are beyond both time and duality: that makes them neither classically 'immortal' nor material.
Answer: No
We have zero evidence of any kind of consciousness without a body, no matter how you call it. So-called near-death experiences reveal absolutely nothing about a supposed afterlife. Our consciousness is 100% dependent of our brain, and this can be clearly demonstrated with a hammer at a certain speed directed to a certain part of a human body.
Death itself is a process, not something that happens instantaneously when you stop breathing or your heart stops beating. It will take some time for neurons to stop shooting signals after that.
This guy is too naive to speak about soul and super soul; he does not even know where to begin. You need yogis, those who have medidated on the innerself to reflect on what soul is. Immortality of soul is a concept from the 'Sanatana dharma' or loosely called as hinduism+buddhism+jainism. The concept of soul or atman is much deeper that psyche as Greek philosophers put it.
Do we exist in between? Is consciousness like that electric charge in between extremely close, but separate, "Natures"?
If that is the case then are there two Natures? Of what do they consist. Does self-consciousness depend on both, but the soul only depend on one Nature?
'Beyond the threshold of death..,' Harry Potter Land 🤣
Do Leprechauns have itchy toes? 🙃
Talking past each other would make a good tittle 🙂
Yes.
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The soul ( The self, the ' I ' ), if it is such then it is nothing more than a mix of feelings about the felt and the idea of who we believe ourselves to be.
It's nothing magical and only physical in the sense of our brains that does the thinking as well as chemical interactions in the mind and body.
Experiments have shown that when a person is clinically classed as being dead, they do not have out of body experiences as a real phenomenon, it is nothing more that the brain/mind and the changes that go on as we die.
People want to believe the soul to be something more, something magical or spiritual because to them, it helps feed their belief in life after death as well as perhaps to strengthen their belief with a god or something.
People need to face facts, accept that when you die, that is it, there is nothing more.
There is no afterlife, your soul isn't reborn.
It's like that time 50 years before you were born when there was no you, not even the thought of a potential you.
You had no thoughts, no feelings because there was no you to have those things, there was nothing other than the world and people, without you as being a part of it in any way.
I don't really makes sense what you are saying when millions of people's have out of body experiences when there are clinically dead.