James Tabor - What is an Afterlife?

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  • @jimbo33
    @jimbo33 Рік тому +9

    Excellent. Many thanks to RLK and his distinguished guest and lifetime friend James Tabor for bringing to life the underlying uncertainty to what has been long taken for granted.

    • @piehound
      @piehound Рік тому

      Thumbs up. See my comment.

  • @margaretpepper3550
    @margaretpepper3550 Рік тому +18

    Surely the real question to be asked is what is there before life???

    • @stellarwind1946
      @stellarwind1946 Рік тому +4

      Neither question can be answered. It’s like trying to peer past an event horizon.

    • @Kritiker313
      @Kritiker313 Рік тому +1

      A twinkle in someone's eye?

    • @crisismanagement
      @crisismanagement Рік тому +2

      Dust

    • @jsar5409
      @jsar5409 Рік тому

      The same universe that will be here after life, for as long as it exists in either direction

    • @bryandraughn9830
      @bryandraughn9830 Рік тому +1

      Atoms.

  • @gwilwilliams5831
    @gwilwilliams5831 Рік тому +2

    An old friend whose passion was repairing clocks and other timepieces once told me that time runs backwards in the universe.

  • @AnonAnon1
    @AnonAnon1 11 місяців тому +4

    If there is an afterlife why to people need religions to discover it. If it exists, when you die you go to the afterlife regardless.

  • @j.a.velarde5901
    @j.a.velarde5901 Рік тому +8

    The Siberian Shamans say that we, upon death, split into basic spiritual parts. - In that understanding, our consciousness also continues.

    • @Ghost_bros
      @Ghost_bros Рік тому +3

      I've never met consciousness without a brain

    • @nicholash8021
      @nicholash8021 Рік тому

      @@sIenderrr I often thought exactly the same thing, like an antenna into the quantum world where information is created, never lost and which is accessible in both a read and write way. You can't help but wonder who else (God) has access to this library of your life from which you can be judged and hopefully from which you can grow and have multiple chances to mature into something worthy of a better place.

    • @wendyleeconnelly2939
      @wendyleeconnelly2939 5 місяців тому

      @@Ghost_bros ??User name does not check out.

    • @wendyleeconnelly2939
      @wendyleeconnelly2939 5 місяців тому

      @@nicholash8021 Sounds like the Akashic Records. Look that up (if you don't already know about it)

  • @gsr4535
    @gsr4535 Рік тому +13

    James Tabor is a wonderful fellow!

  • @r2c3
    @r2c3 Рік тому +23

    ancient Egyptians had a story where at one point, during the boat trip, right after the end of one's life, their heart was weighted against that of a feather which symbolized a life well lived... so let's make the most of what we currently have and leave without any regrets 🎃

    • @stevennurahmed5105
      @stevennurahmed5105 Рік тому +6

      Isn't it interesting how they always leave out ancient Egypt?

    • @S3RAVA3LM
      @S3RAVA3LM Рік тому +4

      A feather in weight is very light; light must be ye heart be, as pure as light itself.

    • @Brian-gh8el
      @Brian-gh8el Рік тому +12

      Our heart’s are heavy with microplastics. Good luck.

    • @tomjackson7755
      @tomjackson7755 Рік тому

      @@S3RAVA3LM Just stop with your worthless woo woo.

    • @notreally2406
      @notreally2406 Рік тому

      everyone makes mistakes, and regret is important to reform us moving forward

  • @TheMichaelBeck
    @TheMichaelBeck Рік тому +5

    Sooner or later, we'll all get the answer to this question.

  • @piehound
    @piehound Рік тому +1

    Agreed. The churches never quite work that out. It remains a problem . . . at least on the level of mainstream doctrine. But that doesn't mean it needs to remain a personal problem. There is more than enough semantic flexibility in ancient writings, their translations, and our ability to rationalize . . . to make the difficulty of a soul and a resurrection a mere exercise in philosophy.

  • @playpaltalk
    @playpaltalk Рік тому +15

    After life for me is waking up after dying in a dream.

  • @ameralbadry6825
    @ameralbadry6825 Рік тому +7

    We live only once, so make the best out of it.

    • @Dion_Mustard
      @Dion_Mustard Рік тому +3

      i used to think that but not any more.

    • @oskarngo9138
      @oskarngo9138 Рік тому +1

      @@Dion_Mustard
      How do you know?
      Is it just your wishful thinking...?

    • @Dion_Mustard
      @Dion_Mustard Рік тому +4

      @@oskarngo9138 absolutely not wishful thinking. Far from it. I've had years of having out of body experiences so I know beyond any doubt that consciousness is MORE than brain. And no I'm not religious. But I have certainly had some "wake up" experiences.

    • @Marktrius
      @Marktrius Рік тому +2

      Imo, I agree and don't agree with you. From a materialistic viewpoint and assuming the universe is truly cyclical, I think its a logical assumption that the subjective conscious observer that is actually "you" continues on, but the "you" that comprises your personality, your memories, your psyche ends. You will also not have any means or way of recollecting this life so it would essentially be similar to how we define "death." Granted I could be wrong as well, there could be some sort of metaphysical afterlife or alternative dimension or something along those lines that lies after death, or maybe the hardcore materialists are correct and this life is it, i don't truly know.

    • @Dion_Mustard
      @Dion_Mustard Рік тому

      you raise a good point, but if you study NDEs or OBEs you can clearly see that people still have memory/personality/and lucid perception during these experiences, often when the brain is flatlined, or depleted. It seems our personality continues beyond the physical body. I have had such an experience whereby I was complete, and felt totally lucid whilst separate from my physical body. I'd suggest reading "Consciousness Beyond Life" by Dr Pim Van Lommel. @@Marktrius

  • @mark.J6708
    @mark.J6708 Рік тому +4

    In terms of human existence even Abraham is young. I always find it fascinating how 'we' need to define and put corners around things. What other 'religious' ideas are out there besides what's discussed here? As someone else mentioned- ancient Egyptians believed what things? A world where everyone who has ever lived is popped back out of the ground seems like it would be rather cluttered. Is there something after the death of the physical body... my opinion is yes.

  • @BalmainBucko
    @BalmainBucko Рік тому +1

    The mind doesn't belong to the body, the body belongs to the mind, once you grasp how fundamental Consciousness is, the concept of consciousness having higher forms of functioning realities seems more likely than not.

  • @proprich5586
    @proprich5586 Рік тому +4

    I’m a little confused. If the ancient Hebrews believed in ‘Hades’ then isn’t that an afterlife?

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Рік тому +1

      That doesn't appear anywhere in the Hebrew Bible, but we have documents from Jewish communities in Babylon and elsewhere from around 100 BC or so speculating on that. So many Jews of that time seem to have believed it, but it's not Biblical and so is likely the result of cultural osmosis.
      I'm surprised they don't mention Ezra, who according to the bible itself was sent by the King of Persia, a Zoroastrian, to straighten out Judaism. The concept of a judgement day, the resurrection of the body which they discuss in the interview, and several Jewish religious festivals introduced at that time are direct copy-paste from Zoroastrianism.

    • @afaegfsgsdef
      @afaegfsgsdef Рік тому +1

      Jews believe everyone goes to Sheol when they die, both believers and unbelievers. "Hades" is from the New Testament.

    • @wendyleeconnelly2939
      @wendyleeconnelly2939 5 місяців тому

      The Hebrew term was "sheol" which some say is an equivalent of Hades

  • @bryandraughn9830
    @bryandraughn9830 Рік тому +3

    Being here on earth is like a front row seat in this universe. It's a very interesting place. With quite a view.

  • @JD-HatCreekCattleCo
    @JD-HatCreekCattleCo 9 місяців тому

    “If you have a soul then why do you need a resurrection?” The church has realized this philosophical problem and that is why they have preached for centuries the sacredness of the body. The Roman church has rules regarding cremation, such as the remains cannot be scattered, they must be kept together, exactly because of this belief in the sacredness of the human body. I must admit, I’m not Roman Catholic, the concept of the marriage of Spirit and Matter, makes a lot of sense to me. However also the idea of returning to nature the remains of my body also has its sacredness. I have just fallen in love with the Mystery.

  • @tommyvictorbuch6960
    @tommyvictorbuch6960 Рік тому +2

    "Religion is pretending to know things you don't know."
    - Aron Ra -

    • @danmc2678
      @danmc2678 11 місяців тому +1

      Now that is funny.

  • @BloodNobleofSoD
    @BloodNobleofSoD Рік тому +1

    I'm obviously not as well versed or articulated, but something I've had in my mind is the idea of mythology being lessons used to explain healthy or productive trains of thoughts that are more like teachings that you take your own interpretations from. To hear him talk about how the evolution of these "propaganda" tactics as religions meet tribality opposition. Older religions feel a lot closer to stoic interpretations of the world where the only thing you have control over is the self, and "newer" religions have a more nihilistic approach that is focused on being the most pleasing.

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 9 місяців тому +1

    An afterlife is a potential life.

  • @christophermiles6778
    @christophermiles6778 Рік тому +1

    I disagree with the conclusion that eternal life was never part of the biblical story until the inter-testamental period. It permeates the scriptures from the very story he cited in Genesis regarding the way to it being barred. The problem became access to eternal life, not the question of its existence.

  • @ronhudson3730
    @ronhudson3730 Рік тому +6

    If there is no past and no future, only a succession of presents, then there is no death. One is perpetually alive in one's personal string of presents. There is no before life or afterlife because there is no pre or post, only now.

    • @d.r.tweedstweeddale9038
      @d.r.tweedstweeddale9038 Рік тому +1

      I see you have a PHD in gobbledygook, Piled very High & very Deep.

    • @ormonde2007
      @ormonde2007 Рік тому

      When you think about a "deterministic universe " the present the past and the future are already one.

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 Рік тому +1

    "Afterlife" is a very handy word. So is "beforelife".
    Like "drunkenness" and "soberness", "life" and "death" do not exist.
    Certainly, not at the same time, anyway !

  • @A.--.
    @A.--. 9 місяців тому

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    Mathew 7:22-23
    "IN THAT DAY" what is Jesus talking about if not the Day of Resurrection/Judgement?

  • @MrJPI
    @MrJPI Рік тому +2

    This was exellent conversation to listen! Still, having studied egyptologgy and ancient egyptian religion, it would have been nice to hear the fact that big deal of the hebrew religious thinking really comes from ancient Egypt.

  • @hassansyed5661
    @hassansyed5661 Рік тому +1

    A similar concept of after life is also present in the Quran. In fact, it seems like we are living an intermediate life where we believe that we are conscious and alive but what about the state before the birth , if the state suppose 100 years before the birth was a death state then we should consider us already in an alive state after death.
    At another place in the Quran, it is mentioned that those who died in the way of Allah and did good deeds while living are still alive and even getting things to eat but we don't have the consciousness about that fact. Unfortunately, our mental understandings are based on our conscious experience which is different for everyone and based on the past data known to us.

  • @kelpkelp5252
    @kelpkelp5252 Рік тому

    I think an Afterlife is somewhere where all personal agency is removed from you and you are forced to be happy by some higher power regardless of whether any of your loved ones are there with you.

  • @wagfinpis
    @wagfinpis Рік тому

    Some physicists say "Shut up and computate" while others phylosophize. Some people have spiritually ineffable experiences while others have ideas.
    A glimpse of the truth can edify an individual for a lifetime while common understandings can persist through generations of college.

  • @crisismanagement
    @crisismanagement Рік тому +2

    King Saul in the Bible summoned the late prophet Samuel to appear but it was actually a rebellious angel who impersonated Samuel.

  • @paulteese4221
    @paulteese4221 10 місяців тому

    I don't really get the question. Isn't being alive once enough? And isn't it enough to be dead after life? Is something lost?

  • @bretnetherton9273
    @bretnetherton9273 Рік тому

    Awareness is the only constant of all experience what could be more fundamental to reality than that? Awareness is known by awareness alone.

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 Рік тому +4

    The only possible hope of eternal life, is for eternal life as a species. But are we too selfish as individuals of the species to live for the longevity of the species? I heard a Christian preacher the other day on UA-cam say, humans don’t have to worry about the health of the Planet or climate change because God will create a new Earth for us to live on after we die. Humanity needs to start looking seriously at the ways such myths and false, supposedly comforting beliefs, actually end up hurting humanity’s chance of being a species with any longevity.

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      Did you know we have a prophecy that says all of you will do EXACTLY the narrative you are trying to create?
      Did you know it says it would be the dragon and the anti-Christ. Say, aren’t you the dragon and aren’t you spouting anti-Christ rhetoric?
      Also, carbon is a life giving molecule. Life would be impossible with out it. Men have zero control over the climate and anyways, isn’t it you, China, who does not care about the environment? Yep, it is.
      Social media, the false prophet, it’s is being used to deceive the world and its hundreds of millions of you, as a part of the .50 cent army, who are doing it.
      Isn’t it weird that you are doing EXACTLY what the Bible says you would.
      Have you an explanation for the math codes found in the KJV yet?

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      “Christians are holding us back”
      The entire endeavor that was called natural philosophy, which became science, which intern became the modern world, all of it was built on the backs of the discoveries and breakthroughs of devout Bible, believing Christians. In fact, the father of calculus and all of modern math spent more time studying the Bible then he did the optics of light. Sir Isaac newton will be in the millennial kingdom with me and Christ.
      Why are you doing exactly what the Bible said you would do exactly when the Bible says you would?

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      That is weird. Are you a computer?

    • @longcastle4863
      @longcastle4863 Рік тому

      ⁠@@jarrettesselman8144Read the history of science back when the Christian church was in power. It was a time when people had no choice but to be Christians or else be tortured and burned alive at the stake. The real history of science during this time is thinkers making progress in science very carefully and cautiously, despite the constant push back against it by the Christian church, lest they end up like Galileo or worse, Giordano Bruno. Throughout this time period, there were also little reprieves for scientists when the Christian church was preoccupied with other things (like murdering witches) where they could advance science in little ways as long as they worded things very carefully. The history of Medieval Christianity is one of mostly fighting against science. Which actually continues to this day in some Christian sects, especially in American Evangelical Christianity.

  • @gettaasteroid4650
    @gettaasteroid4650 Рік тому

    (7:27) Greek infiltration like in Acts 6:1 where the widows infiltrate the distribution? The alignment in the New Testament doesn't have that many references to Greek and Roman authors if there is one. I think for Paul, Luke attributes four references. There's the "we are his offspring" from the Phainomena, "Cretans are always liars", Thucydides faults the Persians of Thrace because they "take rather than give" which Paul records as "it is better to give than to receive", and then Jesus is like Pindar when God uses him "to kick against the goads".

    • @gettaasteroid4650
      @gettaasteroid4650 Рік тому

      👻👻👻👻 ohh the fourfold drug and for Halloween but was St. Paul perhaps following Philodemus' tetrapharmakos logos as an infiltration technique???👻👻👻👻, the four being: Epimenides, Hesiod, Thucydides, Pindar

  • @zezofaisal
    @zezofaisal Рік тому

    I am always thinking why people deny any idea or fact that not in front of their eyes it doesn’t mean that not exist.. if i live in Room for entire life in a palace and keep denying that there is no earth out side since i can’t see or know it , would it be fair ?? We as human think we know everything literally we are ( trying) to understand but we don’t have right to say such thing since our existence we had no choice how dare we think there is no after life ??
    Try expand your view and feel you are nothing in this solar system ( i am not taking about others we don’t know ) i am not talking about others planets that we can’t measure or even see .. our life is not something to be judged by philosophical limit view that might change within years.

  • @AlessandroFranchi
    @AlessandroFranchi Рік тому +1

    No way, sorry. In the Old Testament, THE GOD OF ABRHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB IS THE GOD OF THE LIVING, NOT OF THE DEAD. There is a persistent view of enduring hope, an Abram's Bosom for the righteous awaiting the final resurrection, and it's not an ellenistic infiltrarion, but a progressive revelation

  • @peristanom
    @peristanom Рік тому

    Awesome video!

  • @ormonde2007
    @ormonde2007 Рік тому

    Well this discussion is right where Christianity should be! We are faced with a "mystery" I guess it could be called a "problem" 1st Corinthians 2-9 Focus all your attention on God, His ways, His thoughts, His desires because you know His design for you is better than your heart can even imagine. What He has prepared for you is greater than what your eyes see and your ears heard.

  • @helveticahotline
    @helveticahotline Рік тому

    It seems to me if I die here and lose the substrate (my brain) that "I" exist on or through that if "I" appear anywhere else after that then that "I" or "Me" that shows up somewhere would have to be a copy of me. So, in essence not me. Also if any of us show up anywhere after we are here, we (our copies) are all going to have to pay $ there too in some form.

  • @absupinhere
    @absupinhere Рік тому +18

    Weird how there’s ghosts and ascension to heaven in the Old Testament and people keep acting like there weren’t.

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Рік тому +1

      They're talking about the actual Hebrew Bible, not the Christian versions of it that have undergone a fair bit of 're-interpreting' in the Chinese Whispers process of translation from language to language. Slave->Servant, Grave->Hell, etc.

    • @dashtuso4397
      @dashtuso4397 Рік тому

      Examples please ?

    • @fist_bump
      @fist_bump Рік тому +2

      Lots of things have been written by man. Really great Sci fi novels that nobody claims mean anything besides creativity.

    • @tcuisix
      @tcuisix Рік тому

      I wonder why

    • @nathanaelink
      @nathanaelink Рік тому

      are you trying to quote John 1? ..or are you referring to how angels are depicted? or do you mean Elijah in 2 Kings and the chariot of fire idea? Because it’s worth naming that the word “heavens” genuinely just means sky. We have to read the text as its authors and intended audience would have read it. “the heavens” just never meant what we modern christian’s mean by it. We have to bear in mind everything they believed about the nature of the world when we read.

  • @MendeMaria-ej8bf
    @MendeMaria-ej8bf Рік тому +1

    It's about religion, legends, etc., not history.

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 Рік тому

    According to my dictionary, "afterlife" is conscious existence after death.
    And "death" is the cessation of life and all associated processes.
    This makes me think that "afterlife" is just as daft as a round square.

    • @horizons2358
      @horizons2358 Рік тому

      Where's heaven ?🤔

    • @tedgrant2
      @tedgrant2 Рік тому

      @@horizons2358
      According to the Bible, you can see it from Earth.
      All you have to do is look up.
      (Mark 6:41)

    • @vivekbhat2784
      @vivekbhat2784 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/s7ck2-CwL1M/v-deo.html

  • @REDPUMPERNICKEL
    @REDPUMPERNICKEL Рік тому

    It seems to me quite obvious that
    those who imagine the candle's flame
    continues to burn in some other dimension
    after the candle is blown out
    are not thinking clearly.
    Life is a process, not a material 'something'.
    Process is a collectivity of related movements.
    Movements cannot exist independent of things.
    Like life, being conscious is a process.
    There are many processes that are not alive or conscious.
    Life and being conscious are particular processes and
    both are staggeringly complex.
    This complexity is what most challenges the understanding.
    How we are conscious is more difficult than life to understand.
    This is in large part because it is very tricky to grasp
    how a collectivity of neural discharge timing patterns
    are able to encode and represent the world and the self.
    Much trickier to understand than
    how a painting of a pipe
    is able to represent a pipe
    without being a pipe.

  • @micronda
    @micronda Рік тому +2

    If you think about it, heaven is in the 'many worlds'. Sure, the one you are in now kinda sucks but when you've sat on that cloud and rested for a while, bet you'll look down and go again.

  • @gordonquimby8907
    @gordonquimby8907 Рік тому +6

    James Tabor may be a great historian, but he brings us no Closer to Truth. He declares in one breath that there is NO AFTERLIFE in the Hebrew Scriptures, and then with the next breath he states that after death people went down to the underworld. That is an afterlife! He chooses to ignore those in the Hebrew Scriptures who were lifted up to heaven. Other societies began to understand there was something better because God also had a relationship with them. Different, but a relationship just the same. Who is he to declare what God is up to? If you deny the spiritual side of our existence, you shall get no Closer to Truth. That is why materialism will never reach an understanding of what consciousness is.

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Рік тому

      >"He declares in one breath that there is NO AFTERLIFE in the Hebrew Scriptures, and then with the next breath he states that after death people went down to the underworld."
      In that bit he was referring to the documentary evidence we have of belief in an underworld among some Jewish communities around a century BC, believed to have been cultural osmosis from the Greeks.

    • @gordonquimby8907
      @gordonquimby8907 Рік тому

      @@simonhibbs887 Your operative word is...."believed". The idea of cultural osmosis is a belief. Materialism is a belief.

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Рік тому +1

      @@gordonquimby8907 Sure, it's just that some beliefs have a lot more evidence to support them than others, but no knowledge is certain. It' just that some knowledge is so overwhelmingly likely that it's not worth worrying about it too much. We probably just disagree about what knowledge that is, and that's what's fun to discuss here.

    • @jessiahstalbirds.j.794
      @jessiahstalbirds.j.794 Рік тому

      @@simonhibbs887 I love a good game of linguistic gymnastics.

    • @albertreyes5298
      @albertreyes5298 Рік тому

      @@simonhibbs887 It is true that after death prople went down to the greek underworld called Hades. If you done good things you will go to the place of comfort in Hades. But if you done evil things you will go to the place of torment in Hades. Luke 16:19-31. Then they will wait there in Hades for the Final Judgement of God if you are going to Heaven or to Hell. Ecclesiastes 12-13-14. Hell is the eternal punishment. Revelation 20:10-15. Preferably New International Version.

  • @KVMD
    @KVMD Рік тому +1

    didn't Pharoh's took their gold and belongings to grave as they thought they will carry them to afterlife? thats over 6000 years ago....

  • @jerryodonovan8624
    @jerryodonovan8624 Рік тому +1

    A child believes in fairytales, but some adults never develop from their infant minds.

  • @Kinging76
    @Kinging76 Рік тому +1

    It is fantastic that people still believe these stories.
    I can make up dozens of them, and ten years later, I will have followers worldwide, lol.

  • @dmellybelly
    @dmellybelly Рік тому +1

    How about Islam, Vedanta end Buddhism?

  • @theatheistcat8081
    @theatheistcat8081 Рік тому +1

    It’s so difficult for people to accept that there’s no afterlife.

    • @vayabro1
      @vayabro1 Рік тому +3

      You are wright. But denying that possibility is not more wise.

    • @jamenta2
      @jamenta2 Рік тому

      It is intellectually dishonest - Materialist's like Kuhn and other Skeptics who ignore quite an abundant accumulation of scientific evidence - of near-death experiences, and they use the most sophomoric reasoning to explain the NDE science away (therefore the intellectual dishonesty) - and then continue on with their blind faith that nothing more can exist beyond their noses. Consciousness itself remains unexplained by these Materialist pinheads - and will remain unexplained, as consciousness is not reducible to anything else - and is only correlated with brain function, and is not a product of the brain.

    • @somerandomvertebrate9262
      @somerandomvertebrate9262 Рік тому +1

      It's because our present lives are so crude and worthless, filled with suffering and lacking in pleasure.

    • @nati22love
      @nati22love Рік тому

      Nobody knows so speculation is healthy

    • @Mr.Anders0n_
      @Mr.Anders0n_ Рік тому

      ​@@somerandomvertebrate9262oh I love that atheist "logic":
      Atheist: there's evil in this world, therefore there's no God
      Religion: every evil act and every suffering will be compensated on Judgement Day
      Atheist: You're using evil and suffering to JUSTIFY your believes!
      🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 21 день тому

    .There is no evidence we come back to life...however it might help many people cope with bad situations here on earth. Amen

  • @estateestate5486
    @estateestate5486 Рік тому +2

    he insists there's nothing there in the Bible, then when given some examples he says well, concept is there, but still there's nothing there. this is a strange talk by an "expert".

    • @ormonde2007
      @ormonde2007 Рік тому +2

      The world needs to wake up and realize that everyone is having a "subjective" spiritual experience

  • @rodraymond1029
    @rodraymond1029 Рік тому +1

    The body will surely die, but not the consciousness. If one become conscious ( not referring to I am aware of this I am not aware of that) to become conscious, there is a way unfortunately not the scientific way as you know of.

    • @carlasousa8623
      @carlasousa8623 Рік тому

      How do you know?

    • @rodraymond1029
      @rodraymond1029 Рік тому

      If one is willing to explore, you will know it.

    • @rodraymond1029
      @rodraymond1029 Рік тому

      We experience death on a daily basis, if you can spare time and energy to take a look at it. In no time you will know it.

  • @charlesbadrock
    @charlesbadrock Рік тому +1

    Mythology is very powerful in the human psyche

  • @davidtate166
    @davidtate166 Рік тому

    I enjoy this one .

  • @thaithaknot
    @thaithaknot Рік тому +1

    Elijah? What a way to go.

  • @raymonddscott4711
    @raymonddscott4711 Рік тому +3

    How does such an educated man miss the Old Testament references to eternal life being a promise to the faithful? Aside from the promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, there are many examples. Just one, Psalm 23:6 NASB20 - "6 Certainly goodness and faithfulness will follow me all the days of my life, And my dwelling will be in the house of the LORD FOREVER."

    • @afaegfsgsdef
      @afaegfsgsdef Рік тому +1

      That literally speaks about this life, not an afterlife... Jews don't believe in heaven (they all go to Sheol), so there is no afterlife of "in the house of the Lord"

    • @carlasousa8623
      @carlasousa8623 Рік тому

      Old Testament such a horrific philosophy of life

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 21 день тому

    Anthropologists estimate that at least 18,000 different gods, goddesses, and various animals or objects have been worshipped by humans since our species first appeared."

  • @danmc2678
    @danmc2678 11 місяців тому +1

    It's easier to control a populous when there is a carrot of an afterlife.

  • @edwardlawrence5666
    @edwardlawrence5666 4 місяці тому

    The Christian view may come from the Egyptian Book of the Dead rather than Hebrew or Mesopotamian texts. Something that once only applied to the Pharaoh/king, applied to everybody.

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 Рік тому +1

    If humans are meant to live forever and if there is a God, then he will make it so.

  • @ob5005.
    @ob5005. Рік тому

    I recommend you guys to read Risale-i Nur Collection by Said Nursi. Anyone can see what the reality is from this books and what is afterlife. He is the RUMİ of this time.

  • @ormonde2007
    @ormonde2007 Рік тому

    You have a lot of optimism about the political will to cooperate with such things. We can't address climate change or overpopulation in our present circumstance. Would we breed a class of worker drones or soldier drones? Many people who are healthy and intelligent just pursue more and more ways to self-aggrandize or Ingratiate there egos utopian ideals can be loaded with issues....

  • @faidon90125
    @faidon90125 Рік тому

    When did Homer who wrote the Iliad and Odyssey talking about Greek mythology and heroes became "the most ancient hebrew tradition"?

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 10 місяців тому

    I find it very difficult to believe all my dead ancestors are sitting on a cloud watching everything I do in the bathroom.

  • @Dion_Mustard
    @Dion_Mustard Рік тому

    if there is an afterlife then i'd say it's something to do with consciousness being non-local.

  • @املالدهور
    @املالدهور Рік тому +1

    Afterlife is real but you read all books but the Qur'an,,

  • @lindawhitehead6149
    @lindawhitehead6149 6 місяців тому

    I sem to remember reading that there was some Ziriastrian influence.

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 Рік тому

    One great story that will turn every Judeo Christians convert to Islam is the story of eternal life after death. The only story that is complete and flawless, like the religion itself. It also fit into the narrative of QM's determinism.

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 Рік тому +2

    But didn’t the Egyptians believe in life after death-at least for their Pharaohs-as far back as 4,,500 years ago?

  • @yvito125
    @yvito125 Рік тому +3

    Afterlife makes as much sense as before life 😂😂😂

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Рік тому +3

    I think the term *"Afterlife"* needs to be updated to *"Post-physicality."* An afterlife suggests that you _"live on"_ after you have died, which as most atheists would argue _doesn't make any sense_ (and to which I would agree!). However, the idea that "you" can still exist after physical death is plausible without religion being involved. You're simply not breathing oxygen anymore nor eating food to survive like was required during this "physical" stage of existence. That type of existence is _"in the past"_ and you must now evolve into the next stage of existence.
    Every one of us is a vestibule of information that produces more information than we take in. Our information gets communicated and assimilated into other vestibules of information through art, inventions, acts, laws, friends, enemies, scientific theories, religions, etc. So, if *information* is at the very core of "Existence," then how could the *elimination of information* ever benefit "Existence" going forward?
    We are all scripting the evolution of "Existence" through the information we produce during our lifetime. This includes that individual slice of self-aware information called "YOU." You may not be "alive" or exist in any understandable way on the other side of physical death, ... but you will _still exist,_ none the less.
    *"What happens in existence stays in existence!"*

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      Have you an explanation for the math codes in the King James?

    • @r2c3
      @r2c3 Рік тому +1

      hello 1...
      "post-physicality" excludes the possibility of one's return though 🤔

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Рік тому

      @@jarrettesselman8144 *"Have you an explanation for the math codes in the King James?"*
      ... I have no explanation for any "math codes" in the KJV Bible.
      What I CAN say is that "Christianity" has nothing to do with mathematics. Jesus Christ expounded on areas of human existence that have nothing to do with mathematics in the same way that van Gogh's painting _"The Stary Night"_ has nothing to do with the molecular structure of stars or any type of science-based cosmology.
      Trying to extract mathematical codes embedded within the Christian Bible is like trying to extract the code for time travel secretly embedded within the movie, _"Back To The Future."_

    • @r2c3
      @r2c3 Рік тому

      ​@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLCI'm not an expert, but I've encountered a few number coincidences when reading the Bible though...

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Рік тому +1

      @@r2c3 *""post-physicality" excludes the possibility of one's return though"*
      ... "Existence" is never satisfied with the status quo (i.e., "evolution."). Returning back as another lifeform produces redundant information that some other "new lifeform" can produce. A "single physical lifetime" is all that's required out of you while operating in this physical arena."
      Would you be "intellectually satisfied" being sent back to kindergarten during this lifetime?

  • @allablr5765
    @allablr5765 Рік тому +1

    Why would anyone want an afterlife? It is scary just to think about it. I really hope it's not. Life is horrible. I hate to even think about what afterlife is ever possible.

  • @JavaidAvecue
    @JavaidAvecue Рік тому

    In an answer to a philosophical question he is telling stories with commentaries, as if he is teaching the Lord of the Flies to the undergrads!

  • @Ekam-Sat
    @Ekam-Sat Рік тому +1

    Hey babe; let's take a walk on the wild side. What if we are the eternal one?

  • @TheUltimateSeeds
    @TheUltimateSeeds Рік тому +5

    *"...What is an Afterlife?..."* The most *natural* and *organic* vision we can have of the afterlife is in the realization that the frightening event that we call death is nothing more than a final *"contraction and push"* that will deliver (birth) our souls into a higher context of reality where our ultimate form (the same form as God), along with our eternal purpose, will finally be revealed to us.

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      Your purpose is to accept Christ and be saved. Otherwise you are created for destruction.

    • @TheUltimateSeeds
      @TheUltimateSeeds Рік тому +7

      ​@@jarrettesselman8144 Saved from what? Saved from Christ's decision to condemn you to eternal damnation and torture if you don't accept his offer to save you from that arbitrary and hateful decision? Nonsense!

    • @sujok-acupuncture9246
      @sujok-acupuncture9246 Рік тому +4

      ​@@jarrettesselman8144 I wish Christ saved himself.

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому +1

      @@TheUltimateSeeds so, you’ve rejected the free gift of salvation. Your default position it is. Bye.

    • @longcastle4863
      @longcastle4863 Рік тому

      What you say reminds me of the famous words of a famous member of a famous Trinity:
      Woo woo woo woo woo…
      _Curly_

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics666 Рік тому

    It is an oxymoron, like a round square. Life is a conclusion and is defined by a conclusion, after which other people judge you.

  • @Naidu-k8m
    @Naidu-k8m Рік тому

    If we believe in holy beings its just something that comes naturally. Just like when we see UFOs n believe its Aliens. And just like those keep reaching far out in science keep coming out with all kinds of fantastic thoughts !!

  • @JoeZorzin
    @JoeZorzin Рік тому +2

    Religion - of any sort- is nothing more than wishful thinking.

  • @keithrelyea7997
    @keithrelyea7997 Рік тому

    "People say....... " I say is no god, it's all a product of our imagination. Just listen to what the man said. He is an historian of a time when humans were formulating what they thought life and death was all about by using their imaginations. They come up with all kinds of things. It's us, that's it.

  • @evimavi
    @evimavi Рік тому +2

    Ohh wait, what happened to Islam’s point of view? Doesn’t matter?! Let me assure you this, Resurrection is coming after death in the form of your body. It’s necessary, real and not a hard job at all for the Creator who created us from nothing. Read Qur’an for God’s sake!

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 Рік тому +1

    3:57 I find it interesting that the one "responsible" for screwing up eternal life for humanity is, again, represented by a snake.
    Go Bluejays!!

    • @simonhibbs887
      @simonhibbs887 Рік тому

      >"is, again, represented by a snake. "
      You mean was originally represented as a snake. The epic of Gilgamesh and the Babylonian flood myth pre-date the corresponding parts of the Hebrew Bible by a thousand years or more.

    • @afaegfsgsdef
      @afaegfsgsdef Рік тому +1

      God is responsible for "screwing up eternal life"... God created hell, God created death, God created the rules of sin and what sends people to hell. Satan had nothing to do with it.

    • @carlasousa8623
      @carlasousa8623 Рік тому

      Poor snakes….such a wonderful animal being used as a symbol of evil. I think the best animal to represent evil is us

  • @evfast
    @evfast Рік тому

    Perhaps Zoroastrianism might have a bit to contribute to the foundations of these beliefs?

  • @ormonde2007
    @ormonde2007 Рік тому

    Adam and Eve eat from the tree of "knowledge of good and evil" they are kept from a "tree of life" which was also in their midst. Jesus is sacrificed by being nailed to a tree🤔

  • @oskarngo9138
    @oskarngo9138 Рік тому

    Someone Please Reconcile/ explain the the existence of “Human-Intestinal-Parasites” using the God hypothesis...!

  • @Me-lj1rk
    @Me-lj1rk 5 місяців тому

    I find these "beliefs" so lacking as the historian speculates and has made a life of "believing" stories. Aren't these religions simply "made up" stories? And humans may be the ONLY species that "believe" in the craziest things, stories handed down or "made up" or an "afterlife".
    And depending on where you were born in many ways influences your "beliefs". If there is an after life, a heaven or whatever and "I" am aware of this "new" place of existence well, I will "believe" where I am at that moment.

  • @EvelineNow
    @EvelineNow Рік тому +3

    Love this’idea’

  • @CharlesMatheny
    @CharlesMatheny Рік тому +1

    It's a wish.

  • @zmadani341
    @zmadani341 Рік тому +1

    Must read the Quran

  • @neffetSnnamremmiZ
    @neffetSnnamremmiZ Рік тому

    Afterlife means, that God the Life promised to reach one day in far far future the ability to wake you up from the dead and recreate you. And until this point you remain dead and in a very long sleep..

  • @josephturner7569
    @josephturner7569 10 місяців тому

    The Adam & Eve story is misunderstood.
    It is a poor retelling of the Eleusinian Ritual.
    The forbidden fruit is the narcotic.
    The Tree of Knowledge is symbolic of what is discovered in an NDE.

  • @mickqQ
    @mickqQ Рік тому

    It’s a concept driven by fear, egotism, narcissism and superstition

  • @dashtuso4397
    @dashtuso4397 Рік тому +1

    It wasn't really until Jesus started reciting The Tao that a lot of this confliction started .

  • @jessiahstalbirds.j.794
    @jessiahstalbirds.j.794 Рік тому +1

    Dr. Tabor is the man.

  • @uttaradit2
    @uttaradit2 Рік тому +1

    ask a fly

  • @healingplaces
    @healingplaces Рік тому +1

    Ohm Shiva.

  • @Minion-kh1tq
    @Minion-kh1tq 10 місяців тому

    It's amazing what you can claim about the Bible if you haven't read it.

  • @jukeman57
    @jukeman57 Рік тому +3

    John 5:24

  • @peweegangloku6428
    @peweegangloku6428 Рік тому +1

    The entire Bible is built on the concept of everlasting life from the very beginning. Adam and Eve were created to live forever. They only lost this prospect because of their disobedience. The loving creator of mankind could not abandon the offsprings of the two rebels to such a doom fate. His standard of perfect justice kicked in so as to rescue the obedient section of mankind.
    Thus came in the Abrahamic covenant recorded at Genesis chapter 22 verse 18: "And by means of your offspring all nations of the earth will obtain a blessing for themselves because you have listened to my voice."
    What blessing could all the nations get if death is the ultimate end of all mankind? This is the whole basis for the coming of the Jewish Messiah - to liberate not only the Jews from the curse of sin and death but the entire obedient human family.
    If the the guest wants to preach philosophy, good enough. Let him make that clear and leave the Bible alone.

  • @markwrede8878
    @markwrede8878 Рік тому +1

    An afterlife would be a new set of bill collectors.

  • @taonow369
    @taonow369 Рік тому

    The Greeks ( self admittedly) got all there knowledge from the Egyptians

    • @longcastle4863
      @longcastle4863 Рік тому

      Yes, I think maybe the guest was about to get into that at 8:29… (i.e., where the Greeks got the idea for a heavenly afterlife), but the conversation went in another direction. Sadly, for me, because it was something I really wanted to hear about.

  • @MrSanford65
    @MrSanford65 Рік тому +2

    Well, if we’re going to look at it from a religious angle when Jesus said you must be born again, I think he’s equating life after birth with the same thing as life after death . But with that being said, I think by death it’s meant simply as the death of the individual which in turn leads to entering into a transcendent consciousness. And I think we sense something transcendent and eternal in all of us, which is why it is beyond our capacity to imagine not existing

    • @longcastle4863
      @longcastle4863 Рік тому

      Did Neanderthals sense the transcendence of life too? How about Homo erectus or Australopithecus afarensis? How about chimpanzees or the great apes? Or our pet dogs and cats? Did you forget we are evolved animals? What is the point where there is no more crossover into another existence? Do mosquitos cross over? Or just we humans. And if so, at what point did the crossover start happening? Two hundred thousand years ago? Three hundred thousand? Which is about the time scientists tell us the human species, Homo sapiens, arrived on the Planet.

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Рік тому

      @@longcastle4863but you are simulated. Everything is.
      Have you an explanation for the math codes in the KJV?

    • @afaegfsgsdef
      @afaegfsgsdef Рік тому +1

      Being born again has nothing to do with an afterlife. It's about being reborn in the spirit, and becoming a force for good in this world... "So it is with those born of the spirit"

    • @MrSanford65
      @MrSanford65 Рік тому

      @@afaegfsgsdef well, assuming that Jesus was God I believe his word deserves to be analyzed a little more closely in that in that phrase he’s equating birth with a change of consciousness, an interruption in the trajectory of the stream of consciousness, so one could view death the same way. Just a change in consciousness.