Froth pak 620 review. DIY project.
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2017
- A quick review on the froth pak 620 foam. This was my first time doing spray foam and it turned out good and was pretty easy to use. I don't recommend it for large projects like this due to it's cheaper to have someone spray thicker for cheaper. This is good for small areas where it would be higher to have someone else come in and do a small area.
Sprays in 1 inch, so needs done 3 times or can put in other installation to fill up the other 2 inches.
Thanks for taking time out to show how easy it was. Like Carlos Joel Garcia said, takes the fear out of not having done it before.
Thank you for posting. Takes the fear of doing it yourself. Cheers
Thanks! I was trying to visualize how far 3 kits (@ 1") would go. This video really helped.
Short sweet and to the point video thank you for this
Great video, thanks for posting it. Nice job on your project
Thanks for posting. I was curious about this stuff.
Metal building is just getting finished. Don’t think I can do this in the winter sadly, even tho I’m in TX. Guess I’ll wait till spring. Thanks for the video
excellent video. thank you posting.
Thanks great advise
Thanks you're the man!!!
Good info. Thanks
I Googled for "man shouting at the camera" and found a video about spray foam instead!
Sweet, didnt even have to put a tag in for it! 😊
lol, thank you internet.
I use the cotton candy for inside walls and the spray foam for the exterior walls. That way the exterior walls get at least a R12 at 2 inch thick per Sq inch. Holds the heat during winter and the ac during summer very well.
You insulate interior walls?
@@randybobandy9828 I seal the exterior walls with a closed cell foam insulation to protect from moisture, humidity and outside temp. The interior walls get the pink roll insulation for both sound proofing between rooms and to give each room it's own climate control. I've done this to my home and I've got no complaints. I've got 2 separate 12 ton HVAC systems. One is designated for heat which is plumbed through the floor. The other is designated AC which is plumbed through the ceiling. Insulating the interior walls acts as both a sound deadening material and helps each area of the house to get up to desired temperature more evenly. I can't hear the hallway bathroom toilet flush and the master bathroom toilet can only be heard through the bathroom door. Can't hear the fridge kick on from the kitchen in the middle of the night or the washer and dryer running from the opposite side of the house. Guest's in the spare bedroom and people in the livingroom can watch TV all night and not disturb me. Loudest noise I hear is the AC or heat running through the vent. The laundry room, bathroom and living room walls were built with 2x6. Those walls got double insulated before being coved by dry wall. I suggest anyone who lives by a fire house, railroad track, airport or busy stretch of road to do the same. It's worth it.
@@bladenrexroth2555 Good god, where do you get a 12-ton condensor, let alone two?
@@philthycoder Military Surplus. Those multifuel units they use to heat and cool large airbeam structures. Got one for the house and one for my shop. Won them at auction for $1800 a piece.
Cotton candy spray foam or the non paper faced rolls?
Is it possible to buy just the canisters from anywhere? I'd like to get more without buying a whole new kit
acetone will clean this stuff up, soak the nozzles, carefully clean small areas of your skin with the acetone.
Nice video. Not sure you had to be so loud but I appreciate knowing that 1 inch at 2100 board feet can go up in 2 hours.
how is the smell? my wife is really sensitive to harsh chemical smells. thx.
Does it “sound proof” the foo Squad?
foam it green comes w a suit.. froth pak has tip issues..you taped the place? are you going to stuff roxul in the cavities?
looks like it needs more of "it" hence the quotes being higher..
It could be like The Day After Tomorrow outdoors and that house would be toasty warm
I'm thinking about doing this in my crawl space with some extremely limited space how close in range do you need to be from tip of the gun to the walls or floor ceilings?
I did it in the crawl space above the garage at this place, some areas I had less than two feet and just sprayed into the cavity there. You should be able to do it but it is hard to move around and the stuff is really hot/warm when it comes out as it curing.
HERE I GO........ Just bought 4 of the 200ft Dap Paks. I'm doing my unfinished upstairs just worried about doing the roof ridge the roofer cut out when I had my new shingles put on, Also the pitch of my roof is a concern of mine when spray insulating. Wish me luck!!
You got this!! 😊
Thanks Bud!!👍
Brett Lott how did it go/turn out?
Thanks slumlord!
You bet!
Much misunderstanding exists concerning suitable thickness of spray expanding foam to a given insulation value. The PRIMARY benefit of spray expanding foam insulation is to create a thermal break by preventing air movement between spaces. A typical application is one or two passes with liquified product that expands to one inch. Post-cure Inspection is necessary of all application areas to ensure no openings or missed areas exist. A complementary installation of batt (for walls, ceilings) or rigid foam insulation is typically both less expensive, much easier, and more effective to acquire a desired R-value than filling a cavity with spray foam.
After one inch put on top of that "Rockwool" insulation--expensive buti will never go back to anything else, made from lava rock. Has so many advantages, with the two products no vapor barrier needed>Don't kid yourself buy rubber gloves and a good resperated 3m only 40$! There is a new health crisis with our lungs, people that never smoked are getting noduels in lungs don't let vanity ruin your quality of life!
Gerald McDeid ~are you saying you Rockwool the exterior side then spray foam the interior side? Or vice vera
@@tracyk3567 Spray foam interior to one inch, then put batts on top of that to reach your desired R-value (or until you've filled the depth of your stud wall). Much more cost effective to do a 1-inch foam layer for air and vapor seal, then batts on top, vs spraying 3-4 inches of foam to hit that R-value.
The manufacturer (in a separate video I watched on the Froth-Pak 200) explained that the 200 kit is a sealant for air gaps, while this 650 kit CAN be used as insulation.
I’m only spraying the ceiling of a 17x17 bedroom so this will be more than enough to combat the hot / cold variances my customer is getting.
Small world this youtube. I have watched your Philippines vlog off and on for years then I am researching spray foam and see you here. We are buying a home in the Philippines and they don't insulate the roof as I am sure you know. I plan to insulate ours to reduce the cost to run an aircon and so I am researching this topic. Have you found this produce in the Philippines?
I haven't really been into any of the building depo stores here so I don't really know what type of stuff they have. I doubt they have it in many of the hardware places here due to most go much cheaper route for insulation here.
I just did a search for spray foam and it does look like they have products here, just don't know where they get it. Here's a few that I found that you could contact about getting some.. They don't have prices listed on page. There were also sites that offer the service of spray foam.
ecofoam.com.ph/products/ecofoam-polyurethane-foam-insulation/
www.foamox.co.uk/insulation-services/spray-foam-insulation/philippines-spray-foam-insulation.html
Did you do the ceiling and if so was it hard to do?
Did ceiling too and it wasn't hard. Just spray it on like you do the walls. Since this was a high ceiling I had to be on ladders so that made it a little harder to move around.
Can you add a layer after the first layer has cured?What is the r value per inch thickness?
Correct, after the first layer has cured you can add a second layer. I would only recommend using this for very small jobs, after it gets large it becomes cheaper to have foam people do it and they apply two inches all in one go.
what is the R value?
r6 per inch
WHAT? I can't Hear You! lol...
Does this thing need to be @ EXACTLY 75 Degrees? What if it is 76 or 77, or even better 75.5? Lol
Sorry if I offend anyone if this seems like a dipshit question
The tanks should to be above 75. There is a sticker on them letting you know the temp of the tank. If it's a little cooler out put in a closet with a heater and warm them up and you still should be good! This it the temp for best performance so the chemicals will mix properly.
Dope INTRO😊
1 inch is not enough r value in most places. I need R 22 in my area. That would be around 3-4 inches of foam.
Agreed. However, spray expanding foam is primarily intended to prevent air movement between spaces; thus, one inch of foam (when fully expanded and cured) is exactly the correct thickness to achieve a thermal break by preventing air movement. Spray foam, as well as rigid foam, generally have lower R-value than batt insulation at a given thickness. That said, batt insulation provides zero resistance to air movement, and this is why the two products, when combined in a cavity, provide exceptional insulation. Btw... 3+ inches of spray foam would be very expensive, and result in mediocre R-value.
@@lothianmcadam1 that's not accurate Information, especially in colder climates
@@lothianmcadam1 lol you need to redo your research on spray foam and foam board. Closed cell spray foam will give you the highest r value of any type of insulation especially more than fiberglass batts. Open cell spray foam and foam board are also better r value than fiberglass.
In 2024 the cost of this stuff has gone up so much
Everything has! ☹️
should have showed how much it covered, lol
he said 2100 square feet in video at 1 inch thick
Can you speak up next time I can't hear you
You talk about 620 but the photo you posted is of 650. Those are two different products, used for different things. 620 is sealant meant to seal cracks and cavities up to 4 inches wide. It says sealant right on the box. 650 is the actual insulation used to insulate your house like between studs. If you used 620, you used the wrong product.
it's the same stuff, 620 and 650 is the broad feet that it covers.
@@thatslumlordlife no it's not. 620 says sealant on the box, 650 says insulation
@@acaglumac 🤣 that is due to the size difference and what it's recommended for. It's the same closed cell foam! Literally the numbers are for broad feet it covers. Google it!
@@thatslumlordlife yes the number means how many board ft it covers, but the words sealant and insulation tell you what it is supposed to be used for. The sealant also says in the description on the manufacturer's website that it should be used for cavities no wider than 4 inches. Also the sealant and insulation are differently made, different chemical formula. The insulation one is class A fire rated, but sealant isn't. I pulled up their product documentation from official website and you can see all this there, and even the cured R rating is different between the two but initial R rating is the same. You should Google both products and see for yourself. Don't be stubborn. I wouldn't say all this if I weren't right.
@@acaglumac you should go look it up rather than go off what others are stating. Both 620 and 650 are fire rated class A for example! Haha
do not put these in a closet with a heater.....unless you want to burn your house to the ground
Crazy, my house didn't burn down....
If you don't have a minimum of 2 inches. When it's cold outside you will have moisture problems. Even if you do 1 inch of spray and then fiberglass batting. You will still get moisture problems.
That will for sure depend on each building and location. Been almost 5 years here with no moisture problems. But hey, if you say so!
Why? What does the difference between the inch make? If it's sealed, it shouldn't matter.
Lol. Wear gloves for sure.
stop yelling
I have to make sure the people in the back can hear! lol If i don't talk loud people comment that they can't hear me.
sioux falls stop listening jerk..
Your voice is a little to loud, just saying for your next video.
I try to be loud, when I'm not everyone complains they can't hear me, at least when I'm too loud people can turn down their volume otherwise if i'm not loud enough no one can hear due to everyone has their volume all the way up when watching videos.
I’m a professional spray foam installer, this kind of insulation is actually 1 pound insulation, which is NOT a vapour barrier. Even though some of these companies advertise as such. Also, in cold climates you will need a thicker coat than 1 inch. It depends what the code requirements are in your area but most places in Canada is three inches. I also need to be licensed to apply this in Canada. There are things that can go wrong, and raw chemical in your walls can be a health hazard, which can happen. These packs have a place in the market however doing a large scale project with them should be illegal as far as I’m concerned.
This is the type of stuff people always say when it is their business making money doing whatever it is. lol :-)
That SlumLord Life. Sure man. You said in your video that you got some online quotes but I didn’t hear you mention the R value you were getting, it Never mind the fact you don’t have a vapour barrier. Go do some research and prove me wrong. Industry requirements in my industry require me to do density tests for spray foam being a spray foam installer. The foam in the video is only 1 pound density, NOT dense enough to be a vapour barrier.
It's a closed cell foam. Hey, another guy on here said not to use any spray foam and that it isn't good? oh did I mention he heard that from an inspector due to it made his job harder? Of course he don't want people using spray foam. lol Calm down man, i'm not a spray foam professional but I did the job and it worked for what i needed and wanted. That's what it came down too. :)
FineHomebuilding magazine had some really good energy smart remodeling. One I is one inch closed cell foam as a air barrier R-6.5. Then dense-packing cellulose R3.8 per inch. Also look at thermal bridging.
@@thatslumlordlife He's actually partially right. They are both closed cell spray foams but the consumer level version is a step down.
If you compare the product you used to a professional version like BASF spraytite 178 you will see the difference (more different for walltite used for flash and batt). The product you used had a density of 1.75 and a water absorption of 5.44 at 1 inch. Spraytite 178 has a density of 2.15 and a water absorption of 1.39.
Will yours get the job done, probably, but your are comparing apples to oranges. Is it worth 3x the cost? Assuming your quotes are for 1" application, I don't think its worth 3x the cost but then again I wouldn't want to inhale the fluorocarbon propellant (no cartridge mask will filter that, which is why the pros use masks that pump air in from outside).
Btw, from the looks of it you did quite a nice job.
Links to compare the stuff you used to a professional grade:
www.dow.com/webapps/lit/litorder.asp?filepath=styrofoam/pdfs/noreg/179-05044.pdf
performance-materials.basf.us/files/pdf/SPRAYTITE_178_techSheet.pdf
This guy... Hahaha $2300 per inch in the home. You need an R19. (3"). 2300 x 3 = 6900. You also need to understand all the factors that play a role in the application. Humidity and temperature while applying.
Correct, each inch you apply will add up. You can also put in pink installation after the first inch. (we ended up doing except ceiling) Video was a product review so I tried to just hit on the use of it in video!
That’s why most people only do 1”. Cost. Very good moisture and infiltration barrier at 1”. Fill in the rest of the cavity with something else of slightly lower R Value
That SlumLord Life You are very correct. The title of your(this video) specifically says that, you were doing a review which is Exactly what you did. If everyone else who watched your video, actually took the time to first read the title of this video... They would actually know this. I think that, you did a great job on this video, so I’m going to thumbs up and subscribe. Screw the others who don’t take the time to read the title first. You explained exactly what the title said. No more and no less. After I got done watching it, I automatically figured that you were going to add some form of batt insulation on top of it. It’s common sense, which it’s crazy how many people in this world lack that. Again. Nice job.
@@nrfa6229 I just started making the videos and I'm getting used to it!! I think it for sure comes with UA-cam! lol Thanks.
annoying af,