an A5 Putnam Exam integral for calc 2 students

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  • @NadiehFan
    @NadiehFan 2 роки тому +35

    Historical note: this integral was first discussed by Bertrand in 1843 in the Journal de mathématiques pures et appliquées. Bertrand used the technique which is now often incorrectly attributed to Feynman by American sources. In the next issue of the same journal Serret solved the integral in a single line, which is why it is also sometimes referred to as Serret's integral.
    Bertrand believed his technique was new, but in fact Euler had already discussed introducing an additional variable and differentiating under the integral sign in his 1775 paper Nova methodus quantitates integrales determinandi (E464 in the Eneström index). The title of his article indicates that Euler also believed the technique was new when he wrote his article. But Leibniz already used the technique in an appendix of a letter to Johann Bernoulli dated August 3rd 1697, so it is older than Euler and indeed it is therefore also known as the Leibniz integral rule. Clearly the technique dates back to the very beginnings of calculus as we know it, so there is no justification whatsoever to attribute this technique to Feynman. For the record, Feynman never claimed that he discovered the rule. He learned it from an old calculus text that his high school physics teacher had given him.
    *References* (replace every + with .)
    portail+mathdoc+fr/JMPA/PDF/JMPA_1843_1_8_A7_0.pdf
    portail+mathdoc+fr/JMPA/PDF/JMPA_1844_1_9_A41_0.pdf
    scholarlycommons+pacific+edu/cgi/viewcontent+cgi?article=1463&context=euler-works
    archive+org/details/leibnizensmathe00leibgoog/page/n458/mode/1up?view=theater
    hsm+stackexchange+com/questions/8132/why-is-differentiation-under-the-integral-sign-named-the-leibniz-rule
    en+wikipedia+org/wiki/Leibniz_integral_rule

  • @marcopicione3432
    @marcopicione3432 5 років тому +144

    Warning!!! For your mental safety do not try integration by parts

    • @hamzahhussain6580
      @hamzahhussain6580 5 років тому +9

      Luckily this is not in A level Mathematics. Integration is easy in A level, the hardest it probably gets is repeated integration by parts

    • @TheJampt
      @TheJampt 5 років тому +12

      By parts it is not hard. Try integrate by parts twice and you get a syllogism 0=0.

    • @Mosin_khan2002
      @Mosin_khan2002 5 років тому +2

      I used and got the answer

    • @SuperSilver316
      @SuperSilver316 4 роки тому +3

      yup it doesn't give you an answer in terms of known functions, no matter which way you take it. You part of the final answer on the first by parts, which gives an interesting result for another integral, but you wouldn't know that without doing the way he did it in the video.

    • @Jamie-ef9dl
      @Jamie-ef9dl 4 роки тому

      TheJampt can you please explain how it’s done by parts cause I get massively stuck when I have two of the same integral and can’t just add it to both sides or smthn

  • @lazzy25803
    @lazzy25803 4 роки тому +116

    4:02 It can be solved really easily if at this moment you apply King's Property and get Integration as ln( tan(π/4 - x) +1 ) which is equal to ln ( (1 - tanx)/(1+tanx) +1 ) = ln( 2/(1 + tanx) ) so we get I = Integral of ln(2) from 0 to π/4 - I hence 2I = ln(2)π/4

  • @prydin
    @prydin 7 років тому +21

    I'm not in college, I rarely have to use integrals, yet I make sure not to miss a single episode of this channel. Excellent brain gymnastics. And if I'm ever stuck in a deep dark forest and need to integrate some obscure function it will become helpful! :)

  • @ivornworrell
    @ivornworrell 4 роки тому +2

    *This Vietnamese brother knows his University Maths but @**03:35** when you wrote the limits of integration from 0-1 I was wondering "What the hell is he doing?" but when u corrected urself @**04:15** & I said "Ah yea, he's back on track, 0-pi/4 is correct" ! Good stuff.*

  • @karansgarg
    @karansgarg 7 років тому +63

    I honestly did not see that coming, that was incredible

  • @sergiokorochinsky49
    @sergiokorochinsky49 7 років тому +45

    Flam's parametric method is very elegant.
    BPRP trig substitution was clever and inspired.
    I just solved it by brute force, but got some interesting results worth sharing...
    First I replaced the whole integrand by its series expansion
    Log[x+1]/(1+x^2)=
    Sum[a_n x^n,{n,0,inf}]
    Then the integral is just
    Sum[a_n/(n+1) x^(n+1),{n,0,inf}]
    Common sense indicates that the series should be centered in 0 or 1, so half of the terms disappear, but the fastest convergent solution was with the series centered in 1/2, as the coefficients get divided by powers of 2.
    For the series centered in 0 (McLaurin) the convergence is extremely slow, as the coefficients converge to Log(2)/2 and pi/4 alternating signs. Curiously, the solution is the product of these 2 convergence points.
    Of course, all these trials only gave a numerical approximation.
    Then I tried to replace just the log for its series expansion, and integrate each term by doing long division. The integrals separate in 2 groups: log(2) and ArcTan(1), each one with a finite number of additional terms making a triangle. The funny thing is that both triangles complement each other, giving the series expansion for log(2)/2 and ArcTan(1), cancelling each other and giving the analytical solution!

  • @sebmata135
    @sebmata135 7 років тому +59

    This integral and the other Log integral by symmetry are amazing. You never fail to blow my mind BPRP!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 років тому +6

      sebmata thank you!!!!!

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 6 років тому +1

      The whole solution is nothing short of miraculous, but once you wrote down the integral of log(cos(theta-pi/4)), the rest was completely trivial and waste of time. I mean, the limits are from zero to pi/4. You need no further explanation to cancel the log cos beasts.

    • @surajkulkarni565
      @surajkulkarni565 5 років тому

      Here is one more fantastic solution
      ua-cam.com/video/u3HtCHjjSJs/v-deo.html

  • @FuhrerShattercore
    @FuhrerShattercore 7 років тому +104

    You solved what took my friends and me a day in 19 mins

    • @fourier07able
      @fourier07able 5 років тому +3

      This integral is not so easy .

    • @pi17
      @pi17 4 роки тому +4

      I solved under 5 minutes lol.... We don't have so much time in exam

    • @abhinavtushar305
      @abhinavtushar305 4 роки тому +1

      A day lol this took me only 30 seconds,just substitute x=tanx,and use the king's rule

    • @pi17
      @pi17 4 роки тому +3

      @@abhinavtushar305 there's no king rule.... It's just a property........ Bansal sir used to call it that..... It's not an internationally used term.....

    • @abhinavtushar305
      @abhinavtushar305 4 роки тому +1

      @@pi17 😅😅

  • @Saki630
    @Saki630 5 років тому +4

    I dont know how I was recommended this video considering I have probably 70% of my subscribed channels never being recommended to me..... This is a good video for students learning calculus.

  • @TheRedfire21
    @TheRedfire21 7 років тому +140

    Thats so clever, I tried finding an antiderivative but is just way too hard and not feasible if you are not a machine. sometimes I forget definite integrals are just like calculating areas and you can clearly see that the area of the cos(x) function and the cos(x-pi/4) is the same on the interval [0,pi/4]. thanks for the video!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 років тому +11

      My pleasure!

    • @hemantpandey7539
      @hemantpandey7539 7 років тому +16

      It works in general too! When integrating f(x) from a to b we can also integrate f(a+b-x) from a to b to get the same answer. It's kind of like calculating the area from the other side :P

    • @mike4ty4
      @mike4ty4 6 років тому +5

      The antiderivative can be solved with the de Jonquiere's function, also called the polylogarithm:
      Li_s(x) = sum_{n=1..inf} (x^n)/(n^s)
      which is simple generalization of the logarithmic Mercator series:
      -ln(1 - x) = sum_{n=1...inf} (x^n)/n.
      In particular, one should note that int Li_s(x)/x dx = Li_(s+1)(x) + C.
      One should become familiar with that there are a lot more different mathematical functions in the toolchest than just sin, cos, tan, exp, and log, especially now with computers and math libraries to calculate them readily at hand. I would suggest BlackPenRedPen illustrate this. sin/cos/tan/exp/log works fine for Intro Calc 1 and 2 but when you get on up to stuff like Complex Analysis or out into the real world, you'll want to have a lot more in your bag with you.

    • @pranavsingla5902
      @pranavsingla5902 5 років тому

      Learn integration then bruh...

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 роки тому

      @@blackpenredpen m6 0l3àß743¡
      It's m6¡

  • @Kyle_da_athlete
    @Kyle_da_athlete 6 років тому +3

    This was an absolutely gorgeous integral. I got up to splitting it into the 3 separate integrals but I didn't think of working it as area at once. I wanted to get an indefinite integral and them substitute. Thanks for opening my mind to this way of thinking

  • @shajiruby2346
    @shajiruby2346 3 роки тому +1

    Very convoluted explanation. Using property of definite integral, the problem can be solved in less than a minute

  • @mrjnutube
    @mrjnutube 7 років тому +5

    Never ceases to amaze me. Awesome...

  • @Philgob
    @Philgob 5 років тому +71

    i mean... i understand it but i would never ever have came up with that on my own

  • @AdityaKumar-gv4dj
    @AdityaKumar-gv4dj 4 місяці тому +1

    4:00 you could have used King's Rule at this step, ln(1+tan theta) will get cancelled after adding I's to get a 2I. We get 2I= pi/4 ln2. Therefore, I=pi/8 ln2

  • @Rangertom6
    @Rangertom6 7 років тому +11

    There is actually a very lovely way of doing differentiating under the integral sign for this integral as well! if you let I(a) = integral of (ln(ax+1)/(x^2+1)) dx you can also get the answer!

    • @djsmeguk
      @djsmeguk 7 років тому +1

      this I would love to see!

    • @ishaangupta2185
      @ishaangupta2185 8 місяців тому

      This is how I originally solved the integral - Feynman's technique! I was curious to see how it could be solved using only calculus 2 techniques.

    • @tfg601
      @tfg601 4 місяці тому

      @@ishaangupta2185 Hmm I did Feynman's technique up to a certain point and I couldn't figure it out after I differentiated I tried usub and it didn't work, could you please explaiin how you did it? Thanks if you do

    • @ishaangupta2185
      @ishaangupta2185 4 місяці тому

      @@tfg601 It was months ago but if I remember correctly, it was to set P(t) = integral of ln(1 + tx) / (x^2 + 1). Then differentiate and solve like normal.

    • @tfg601
      @tfg601 4 місяці тому

      @@ishaangupta2185 Bro I differentiated with respect to t and even check on wolfram alpha that is not integrable with respect to x

  • @Arthur0000100
    @Arthur0000100 7 років тому +1

    I solved this exact integral just the day before yesterday! Noticing the tan^2(x)+1=sec^2(x) for tangents is half the work. Keep up the good work!

  • @sergioh5515
    @sergioh5515 7 років тому +8

    Awesome integral!

  • @adonaythegreat8426
    @adonaythegreat8426 4 роки тому

    All your works are clear and easy to undestand. Good on you.

  • @vector2817
    @vector2817 7 років тому +1

    The first substitution was really clever, I like how you could then solve the rest of the integral using the knowledge from previous integrals ;)

  • @jihanhamdan5465
    @jihanhamdan5465 7 років тому +5

    Had two awesome ways to solve it, thanks to u and to flammable math

  • @Anas-nu7io
    @Anas-nu7io 7 років тому +3

    Great video! I love these interesting integrals. Keep uploading my friend!

  • @souleater9189
    @souleater9189 7 років тому +273

    whoa whoa whoa... i thought this was black pen red pen, not black pen red pen blue pen!!

  • @lordkitsune2713
    @lordkitsune2713 6 років тому +38

    It's known as the Serret’s integral for some people who are still wondering.

  • @HasXXXInCrocs
    @HasXXXInCrocs 5 років тому +1

    If I hadn't seen this video and this we're on a test I'd probably drop that class lmao. Amazing work, crazy how powerful substitution is. Hope I can apply this knowledge one day!

  • @Zaytoven21
    @Zaytoven21 7 років тому +3

    Very Niceeeeee i think i would like to see more of these Math competition problems , as this had a very satisfying way of solving it .

  • @MiroslavMakaveli
    @MiroslavMakaveli 7 років тому +17

    Very motivating integral. Thanks a lot.

  • @qiaozhou9296
    @qiaozhou9296 4 роки тому

    Thank u for your patience with each little step!!!!!

  • @gatoradeee
    @gatoradeee 6 років тому +1

    Beautiful and elegant. More putnam problems please.

  • @Byt3me21
    @Byt3me21 6 років тому

    A graph would have been icing on the cake. Thank you.

  • @ashuprakash6266
    @ashuprakash6266 6 років тому

    A video to make people feel good about Putnam exam. This is like ABC of what's asked in their

  • @anesumurwira8453
    @anesumurwira8453 5 років тому

    You are a real teacher, I like it. Thanks a lot, it helped me preparing for my final G17 exam.

  • @n0ita
    @n0ita 7 років тому

    THAT'S GENIUS !!!! In the final part i had a mindblow.

  • @injanju
    @injanju 7 років тому +33

    Can you please do another Putnam integral, the integral of dx/(1+(tan x)^sqrt2) from 0 to pi/2 ? I'm really amazed at how you come up with these clever solutions, really mind blowing!

    • @hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236
      @hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 5 років тому +3

      Wolfram alpha

    • @sarangisdon
      @sarangisdon 5 років тому +2

      Apply King's identity for definite integration

    • @pranavsingla5902
      @pranavsingla5902 5 років тому +2

      Use that the integral remains same by putting x as (pi/2 - x) and add both of them. The numerator and denominator cancel out....the answer is pi/4.☺☺

  • @maximedelboo9021
    @maximedelboo9021 7 років тому

    Happy to see some really hard integrals returning, they had been gone for a while... please do more putnam!

  • @StochasticMCSG
    @StochasticMCSG 5 років тому +3

    at the beginning of the year I was taking calc because I had to. Now I'm spending my free time watching videos of people solving calc

  • @todayscalm
    @todayscalm 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much! I am a big fan of yours. That's it!! ^^

  • @DragonLoad49
    @DragonLoad49 6 років тому

    You are awesome, and that is a cool mic! Thank you for the practice!

  • @sergiokorochinsky49
    @sergiokorochinsky49 7 років тому +10

    Integrating by parts, it's very easy to prove that the integral between 0 and 1 of
    ArcTan[x]/(1+x)
    it's also pi/8*Log[2]

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 років тому +1

      Sergio Korochinsky it's very easy

    • @sergiokorochinsky49
      @sergiokorochinsky49 7 років тому +3

      two integrals for the price of one...

    • @kne-si5zj
      @kne-si5zj 3 роки тому

      how would you prove that

    • @sergiokorochinsky49
      @sergiokorochinsky49 3 роки тому

      @@kne-si5zj ...just integrate by parts.
      dv = 1/(1+x) then v = Ln[1+x]
      u = ArcTan[x] then du = 1/(1+x^2)
      u v = ArcTan[x] Ln[1+x]
      (between 0 and 1) = pi/4*Log[2]
      and the integral of v du is solved in the video... pi/8*Log[2].

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore7785 5 років тому

    Awesome. That trig identity for sin theta + cos theta rings a very faint bell. Well done.

  • @amanmahendroo1784
    @amanmahendroo1784 7 років тому +769

    who else thinks this is a little too easy for Putnam?

    • @debdhritiroy6868
      @debdhritiroy6868 6 років тому +52

      yeah man, I already did this in school... So way tooooo eady for Putnam... But, if true, I can maybe then get rid of my fear of Putnam

    • @saikat93ify
      @saikat93ify 6 років тому +85

      I think, it's become a famous question after it was asked in Putnam. But at the time, it might have been a very new question.
      But yes, it is indeed very easy for Putnam.

    • @gurkirat2001
      @gurkirat2001 6 років тому +1

      Yes A easy one

    • @chandrabhan7212
      @chandrabhan7212 6 років тому +49

      Yes, easy because it's the "standard" question when you're introducing students to Leibniz rule. Quite sure back then it would've stumped most of us (it's Putnam after all).

    • @osamafawzy4164
      @osamafawzy4164 5 років тому

      @@chandrabhan7212 jþt

  • @jeffreyluciana8711
    @jeffreyluciana8711 4 роки тому

    Whoever was the first person to figure that out should get a star for their forehead

  • @isaquepim4555
    @isaquepim4555 7 років тому

    I'm in school vacation here in my country(Brazil), and I should have been resting, but I just can't stop watching these integral videos. Nice job BPRP 😁

  • @oguzhanyesildemir5119
    @oguzhanyesildemir5119 4 роки тому

    Man this was good thanks . I have been trying to solve this integral for hours .

  • @fourier07able
    @fourier07able 5 років тому

    What an ingenious tricks! Firstly the change of variable x = tanθ , secondlysinθ + cos θ = √ (2) cos( θ - π/4), thirdly making use of cosine is even, i.e. cos (- Ø ) = cos (Ø ), plus other minor tricks. Impressive! This integral is one hardest out of integrals solved on terms of elementary functions I ever seen.

  • @messinios97
    @messinios97 7 років тому

    Happy new year BlackpenRedpen. That was really nice integral, it was awesome!!! Greetings from Greece!

  • @tomatrix7525
    @tomatrix7525 4 роки тому

    Aha what a legend! How do you actually think so cleverly? When I watch this it makes sense but its so clever man!!! Keep it up I marvel at your work!

  • @kshitijgaur9635
    @kshitijgaur9635 6 років тому

    very nice, soon you'll have 100K subscribers. Great job!

  • @rahul7090
    @rahul7090 6 років тому +3

    There's much easier way to do this. After you reached I=integral of log(1+tanx)dx with limits 0 to pie/4. Let's call it first equation.I then straight way used f(a)=f(a-x) property. Then I =(2/1+tanx)dx with limits 0 to pie /4. We call it second equation. Adding I) and ii), we get 2I=Integral of (log 2)dx with limits 0 to pie/4. Since log 2 is constant , we take that out of integral and bring 2 from LHS to RHS. Then I=1/2* log2 integral of xdx with limits 0 to pie/4 and we get same answer.

  • @luohuo2001
    @luohuo2001 5 років тому +6

    He makes calculus so easy, if only he was actually my home tutor

  • @rubikscuber1114
    @rubikscuber1114 4 роки тому +3

    Ohh my god this question came in my today's exam.The exact same question THANK YOU SIR!

  • @jeremybuchanan4759
    @jeremybuchanan4759 7 років тому

    Very nice - I thought there was no hope I would understand as you started the second substitution but I made it through!

  • @hemaharish
    @hemaharish 4 роки тому +3

    There is another easy way to solve this. After the theta substitution once we get the integral as integral from 0 to pi/4 ln(1+tanx) dx (using x for theta), we can use a property of definite integral that integral 0 to a f(x)dx is the same as integral 0 to a f(a-x)dx. So the 0 to pi/4 ln(1+tanx) (let us call it capital I), is the same as 0 to pi/4 ln(1+tan(pi/4 -x)). If you use the trigonometric formula for tan(pi/4 - x) and simplify the integral becomes integral 0 to pi/4 ln(2/(1+tanx)) which is integral 0 to pi/4 ln2 - 0 to pi/4 ln(1+tanx). This means
    I = 0 to pi/4 ln2 - I, means 2I = Integral of 0 to pi/4 ln2
    means I = pi/8 times ln2.

  • @user-vm6qx2tu3j
    @user-vm6qx2tu3j 7 років тому +20

    Math is love, math is life🙌

  • @YogeshKumar-rf5ys
    @YogeshKumar-rf5ys 6 років тому +3

    You can use king's property for solving integral of ln(tanx +1) from 0 to pie/4

  • @zeldasama
    @zeldasama 6 років тому +1

    You always have a tendency to talk fast. You clearly love doing math, and I love that, keep up the good work.

  • @petegentles4211
    @petegentles4211 5 років тому

    your videos are addictive.

  • @altair9818
    @altair9818 5 років тому +2

    Sir just awesome

  • @a5hen
    @a5hen 6 років тому

    when we get integral of ln(tan theta +1),we can simply use the definite integral property of f(x)=f(a-x) when f(x) is integrated from 0 to a.We then get ln(1+tan(45-theta)).After expanding tan(45-theta) and simplifying the expression inside the integral,we are just left with ln(2).So this could be done in a much simpler way.
    Anway,great video.

  • @saikat93ify
    @saikat93ify 6 років тому

    Fantastic explanation !

  • @sss-ol3dl
    @sss-ol3dl 7 років тому +14

    nice! i managed to do it by differentiation under the integral with ln(ax+1)/(x^2+1)

    • @hansenchen1
      @hansenchen1 6 років тому +1

      Very nice!

    • @algorithmvideos
      @algorithmvideos 6 років тому +2

      Please provide me the solution if u can by your method

    • @heartpirates245
      @heartpirates245 5 років тому +1

      I was gonna say, I wonder if this is possible with Feynmans technique, looks like it is

    • @cpotisch
      @cpotisch 3 роки тому +1

      @@algorithmvideos Two years late, but the process is: partial differentiate, do partial fractions, integrate in the x world, integrate in the b (parameter) world, eliminate the constant by evaluating at I(b=0), then relate the value of I(b=1) to itself and solve.

    • @algorithmvideos
      @algorithmvideos 3 роки тому +1

      @@cpotisch thanks for the same..
      U took your time..😁😁

  • @Supernova799
    @Supernova799 5 років тому

    It is a beautiful integral

  • @jjwesker1061
    @jjwesker1061 4 роки тому

    Well... this IS a potential AP Calculus Question (I take AB).
    I’m glad I found you because I can keep my Calculus strong during Spring Break!
    Now I will just see more videos to know how to do harder integrals.

  • @rashmigupta6227
    @rashmigupta6227 4 роки тому +2

    Simple:
    Do the substitution x=Tan§
    And then after obtaining the expression just use King rule and just add both , and we have achieved our goal

    • @qedmath1729
      @qedmath1729 4 роки тому

      For those who don't know the king's rule, it states that If you have an integral with bounds a and b f(x)dx its the same as integral bounds a and b f(a+b-x)dx.

  • @sriniramiah6445
    @sriniramiah6445 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Blackpenredpen, Thanks for the great math videos. I think this problem seems too easy for putnam. Your solution is very nice . You can also do it as:
    STEP 1: Let I = Lmt 0 .. 1 Integral Ln (1+x)/(1+x^2).
    STEP 2: Let x = tan a. So I = Lmt 0 ... pi/4 Integral Ln (1 + tan a) da.
    STEP 3: This can also be written as: I = Lmt 0 ... pi/4 Integral Ln (1 + tan (pi/4-a)) da.
    STEP 4: which simplifies to: I = Lmt 0..pi/4 Integral Ln ( 1 + ( 1 - tan a) / (1 + tan a) ) da.
    STEP 5: I = Lmt 0 .. pi/4 Integral Ln ( 2 /( 1 + tan a ) ) da.
    STEP 6: I ={ Lmt 0 .. pi/4 Integral Ln(2) da} - { Lmt 0 .. pi/4 Integral Ln(1 + tan a) da } (the second part is just the same integral I, in STEP 2 above)
    STEP 7: so we get, I = Lmt 0..pi/4 Integral Ln(2) da - I
    STEP 8: Move the I to the left side and applying the limits on the right side we get: 2I = pi/4 * Ln2.
    STEP 8: ==> I = pi/8 * Ln2.

  • @sardarbekomurbekov1030
    @sardarbekomurbekov1030 5 років тому

    Interesting integral and interesting solution.

  • @vedantvashi9051
    @vedantvashi9051 7 місяців тому +2

    If math problems had imposter syndrome

  • @MrExtremehustler
    @MrExtremehustler 5 років тому

    That was so satisfying.

  • @harley6659
    @harley6659 3 роки тому

    That was so... Elegant

  • @ismaelcastillo188
    @ismaelcastillo188 Рік тому

    I used Leibniz rule introducing ln(tx+1) and it worked marvelously

  • @colinpountney333
    @colinpountney333 6 років тому

    Another approach is to expand ln(1 + tan(theta)) as a power series and integrate term by term. You end up having to combine two infinite triangular arrays but there is a neat trick and the answer drops out easily once you spot it. You need to use the identities 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+......= ln(2) and 1-1/3+1/5-1/7...= pi/4.

  • @1103juancho
    @1103juancho 6 років тому

    OMG congratulations , you are really amazing

  • @deepambanerjee5594
    @deepambanerjee5594 7 років тому +46

    It will become easier if you apply Kings rule in log(1+tan theta)

  • @adhirachannel1148
    @adhirachannel1148 5 років тому +12

    When u bring integral in thetha world i.e. integral ln( 1 + tan(theta)) then use kings property n get answer in half a minute

    • @aaishikdas
      @aaishikdas 4 роки тому +1

      Good idea bro😯😯....that's great🙂🙂

  • @veled806
    @veled806 2 роки тому +1

    you can also solve this problem with x=arctanu substitution and then applying king's property, adding the two integrals you got before and you get the same answer.

  • @radiotv624
    @radiotv624 7 років тому +1

    Impressive!! Subscribed!

  • @Maxman013_
    @Maxman013_ 7 років тому

    Ok that was actually amazing

  • @johnniegilkerson4724
    @johnniegilkerson4724 6 років тому

    @ 19:19, where did you get that trig idenity? I searched the web and could not find it.

  • @AndDiracisHisProphet
    @AndDiracisHisProphet 7 років тому +201

    Ok, because it's the new year and you did a great job (as always) extra for you I unsubscribe, so that I can subscribe again

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 років тому +27

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Thank you. I wish all my subscribers can do the same for me!
      = DDDDDD

    • @ivornworrell
      @ivornworrell 4 роки тому +2

      AndD whats the point of subtracting then adding back the same quantity since the original quantity will remain unaltered? well thats exactly what ur doing here AndD, by unsub. then subscriging again!

    • @felipealonso7859
      @felipealonso7859 4 роки тому +3

      @@ivornworrell Obvious. It's like that integral you have to add 1 and then subtract 1 and you get a nicer little integral...

  • @crazyyungfan6729
    @crazyyungfan6729 5 років тому +3

    Math is amazing😍😍

  • @watchingyourbackbro3201
    @watchingyourbackbro3201 5 років тому +1

    thank you for making me a better engineer!!!!!!

  • @animeepisode9280
    @animeepisode9280 4 роки тому

    Man I solved it in 1min it boosted my confidence man. Now I would focus on physics portion for my exam.

  • @chillfrost3170
    @chillfrost3170 Рік тому

    2:19 we don't need to worry about the n . pi, n being an integer on that situation?

  • @anon8109
    @anon8109 7 років тому

    Nicely done!

  • @prollysine
    @prollysine Рік тому +1

    Hi bprp, wonderful number game with angle functions...

  • @jakirsarifmondal3466
    @jakirsarifmondal3466 6 років тому +1

    Outstanding..... 😍😍

  • @ommohamedommohamed9685
    @ommohamedommohamed9685 3 роки тому

    Brilliant job

  • @mihaiciorobitca5287
    @mihaiciorobitca5287 6 років тому

    Ooo !what elegant is bprp and also his equation !

  • @silviusarxive5236
    @silviusarxive5236 7 років тому

    Ehrenmann , sweeet stuff dude, sugar

  • @eduardomamede6548
    @eduardomamede6548 6 років тому

    17:10 That's what I call a fucking plot twist. Amazing!!! 👏👏👏

  • @soap6448
    @soap6448 5 років тому

    He’s writing with two markers..... what a teacher

  • @jeffreyh.1436
    @jeffreyh.1436 4 роки тому +1

    hmm this Putnam problem seems strangely similar to SMT 2019 Calc #10...
    that being said, here is another (cleaner imo) way based on the SMT solution
    substitute u=x+1 to get int_1^2 ln u/(u^2-2u+2) du
    we want similar integral with same bounds, so we substitute v=2/u to get that I=int_1^2 (ln 2-ln v)/(v^2-2v+2) dv
    adding the two gives 2I=int_1^2 ln 2/(w^2-2w+2) dw
    trig sub gives the desired pi/8*ln 2

  • @AjitSingh-rg3zu
    @AjitSingh-rg3zu 4 роки тому +13

    This method is shorter 👇
    At 4:07 you could have written the integral like this 👇
    I = ∫ ln(1 + tanθ) dθ limits - 0 to π/4 ......(1)
    [ Now, use
    ∫ f(x) dx =∫ f(a+b-x) dx limits - a to b ]
    I = ∫ ln( 1+ tan(π/4 - θ) ) dθ limits - 0 to π/4
    I = ∫ ln( 2/(1+tanθ) ) dθ limits - 0 to π/4 ......(2)
    Now add eq. (1) and (2)
    2I = ∫ { ln(1+tanθ) + ln(2/(1+tanθ)) } dθ Limits - 0 to π/4
    2I= ∫ ln(2) dθ Limits - 0 to π/4
    2I = (π/4)ln2
    I = (π/8)ln2

  • @svk2542
    @svk2542 5 років тому +2

    It can be done very easily by using properties of definite integral

  • @EAtheatreguy
    @EAtheatreguy 3 роки тому +1

    I did this with Feynman's technique, I(b) = int [0,1] (ln(bx+1)/(x^2+1))dx, but it only worked because the endpoints were the same as the parameters you need to take the integral to 0 and to equal the original integral.

    • @user-wx8bm1pg1d
      @user-wx8bm1pg1d 2 роки тому +1

      I was just about to give up until I saw this comment and finally noticed the thing about the endpoints

  • @frankalonso3590
    @frankalonso3590 7 років тому

    Amazing!! Thank you from México

  • @crancowan8020
    @crancowan8020 3 роки тому

    Pretty cool. I did it another way by starting off with u = tan^-1 (x). The integral(s) then become easy to solve using the power series for ln(1+x). You just get an infinite amount of them which when displayed in matrix form (at x = 1) you can see that the result comes down to -2\ln\big(\cos \frac{\pi}{4} \big) +\ln\big(\cos \frac{\pi}{4} \big) = \frac{\pi}{8} \ln 2

  • @warrengibson7898
    @warrengibson7898 5 років тому

    Always fun to see pi pop up with no circles in sight.

  • @nuduw
    @nuduw 5 років тому +4

    I wrote my intermediate second year(='class 12' as known in many other countries) board examination mathematics paper-II today.
    I saw this video yesterday.
    In the exam we were asked to compute the integral of ln(1+tanx) w.r.t. x from 0 to pi/4 ( which is exactly the same question!!).
    But, I solved it differently by using this property:
    integral of f(x) dx from a to b = integral of f(a+b-x) dx ("King's property" as it is popularly called)

    • @pragati9821
      @pragati9821 4 роки тому

      Yes this ques is in Rd Sharma also