The Byzantine Economy Is Absolutely COOKED

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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  • @somebrokefella5522
    @somebrokefella5522 7 місяців тому +77

    Byzantine vs Ottoman? Ah yes, the El Classico

    • @awesom-o1570
      @awesom-o1570 18 днів тому

      Those cannons were invited just to break thru the Easter Roman's empire ( byzantines) walls

  • @ashfox7498
    @ashfox7498 7 місяців тому

    Guys will literally see the Ottomans getting out-cannoned and say "hell yeah!"

  • @thegittubaba
    @thegittubaba 7 місяців тому

    ottoman great bombard on the losing side??? But reddit told me ottoman is invincible.

  • @alexzhang3870
    @alexzhang3870 7 місяців тому

    Is the bug where you can place all cistern for only 50 stone fixed? Last week I played a 4v4 and all 4 opponents used this bug to get 5 cistern for basically nothing lol

  • @aaltra101
    @aaltra101 7 місяців тому

    Really nice game

  • @ODgoon
    @ODgoon 7 місяців тому +115

    Played against someone who went lvl 5 cistern in dark age. He lost but I respected the hustle

    • @comack669
      @comack669 Місяць тому +1

      He went full cistern, man. Never go full cistern.

  • @gzer0x
    @gzer0x 7 місяців тому +66

    Wow, Faye’s four-army control was awe-inspiring. It was like a textbook military maneuver

    • @robshaw845
      @robshaw845 7 місяців тому +1

      yeah but she got smoked there because she had no springald and was fighting under a full keep lol

  • @thebigbadbeau
    @thebigbadbeau 7 місяців тому +41

    Crazy I was working late and I watched this game on her stream in the background and asked her about the three cistern. She explained that she’s able to get it going with pretty competitive timing and it gives her a lot of power in feudal. She said she normally goes triple upgrade but she was experimenting with going just double broad axe to give her the ability to put on more early pressure. Just prior someone asked about how you fight against ottoman and she said by flanking them. This was a masterclass.

  • @nate742
    @nate742 7 місяців тому +79

    That was an impressive display on Faye’s part. Masterfully maneuvering her forces from multiple angles and using the full potential of the late game momentum of the Byzantines.

    • @V-a-s-h
      @V-a-s-h 7 місяців тому

      What's the full potential late game? I'm new (first aoe too) and in love with byzantine

    • @nate742
      @nate742 7 місяців тому +6

      @@V-a-s-hmainly it’s their ability to generate a lot of Olive Oil income through their farming to buy up a variety of mercenaries, or go Palatine School in Imperial Age and get a trickle of free units as a reward for producing core units. They can really have a strong sustained buildup for their army and keep up the pressure in the late game. You saw just how much Faye’s forces often outnumbered the Ottomans throughout the match, outpacing their own passive army buildup the Ottomans have with their military schools and the MIA.

  • @zanedurante3709
    @zanedurante3709 7 місяців тому +10

    20:35 the way they determine whether a civ can eat the boar is entirely historically (not for balance). The Muslim empires do not eat pig since it is not halal.

  • @dorferino
    @dorferino 7 місяців тому +13

    It's the muslim civs which can't eat boar, easier to remember.

    • @blackcatpack
      @blackcatpack 7 місяців тому

      Actually the animal that Koran forbids to eat is the domestic pig.

  • @chipmunks0764
    @chipmunks0764 7 місяців тому +18

    32:00 Ohhh had innovation waited for juuuuust a couple minutes longer for those 2 GBombards before moving out...

  • @sisi6679
    @sisi6679 7 місяців тому +16

    holy fk, the growth in Faye chan is amazing. Controlling that many armies would make my head explode lol. that was fun to watch. Shout out to Faye!

  • @gkp1595
    @gkp1595 7 місяців тому +16

    One of my favourite match 1v1 lately. Bring more of her. Pleaseeee🎉

  • @jigzo78
    @jigzo78 7 місяців тому +8

    Bestantines

    • @08vinster
      @08vinster 7 місяців тому

      She's played against someone well below her elo. 😂😂😂
      But this circle jerk session doesn't care about facts.

  • @Schoenmann3
    @Schoenmann3 7 місяців тому +2

    Honestly Drongo is superb. Absolutely the most real, authentic and professional host; he's fantastic. We're lucky to have him! 🥂
    I love playing the game but I know they can tend to be longer matches sometimes and I don't always have the time--so watching the best of the best gameplay is awesome.
    And nobody does it like Aussie Drongo lol dude is amazing. Cheers from California lol

  • @Wrathofloki1
    @Wrathofloki1 7 місяців тому +5

    Is that the same Innovation from Sc2?

  • @snoober6690
    @snoober6690 7 місяців тому +1

    -25% attack speed works out to -25% dps even with armor. It sounds wrong because in most games armor is a percent reduction. but in aoe4 armor is a flat subtraction from damage, so changes in attack speed change dps directly.
    armor would affect reduced attack dmg. for instance -25% attack damage would be -25% dps with 0 armor, but when the target has armor -25% attack damage is >25% dps reduction.

  • @JorenMathews
    @JorenMathews 7 місяців тому +3

    It's crazy to me how rare this type of positioning and maneuvering is. Even just a simple horseman flank to pressure siege is a huge deal.

  • @dibrown2404
    @dibrown2404 7 місяців тому +1

    Since the farms are discounted wood, and you get 8 stone, effectively they cost 52 resources. I think early farms are much more viable for byz

  • @cedriccoronel5716
    @cedriccoronel5716 7 місяців тому +3

    One of my favorite match! Wow faye-chan deserves to be in top 5

  • @khuntasaurus88
    @khuntasaurus88 7 місяців тому +2

    faye's micro and tactics are insane! I used to think she was pretty meh but now I'm super impressed. Good on her!

  • @Daphflrks
    @Daphflrks 7 місяців тому +1

    This has to be one of the most fun game i've watched on the channel. :)

  • @alexaagerger3695
    @alexaagerger3695 7 місяців тому +3

    Ayo 21:40 how did drongo suddenly get so poetic with his commentary

  • @arif0487
    @arif0487 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing game and what a series of flanks from Faye! Keep 'em coming Drongo, love your content ♥

  • @carlod5818
    @carlod5818 7 місяців тому +3

    Is that the innovation ?
    The korean sc 2 pro ?

    • @sand3463
      @sand3463 7 місяців тому

      the name does ring a bell, Innovation the "Terran pro player"

  • @cazaimi
    @cazaimi 7 місяців тому +1

    Drongo the poet, but he didn't even know it. I think becoming a dad has expanded Drongo's skill set.

  • @throwmeaname
    @throwmeaname 7 місяців тому +1

    Absolute master play from Faye. Seeing her hammer and anvil the opposing army feels like I’m watching a page from the art of war.

  • @sanethoughtspreader
    @sanethoughtspreader 7 місяців тому +1

    Honestly such a brilliant match! It was back and forth and Faye played brilliantly. So satisfying to watch such great play from her! I definitely did use to think she wasn't the best player but obviously I'm a bronze player (well gold lol) so what do I know? But wow she was brilliant in this game. The flanking was so satisfying and controlling that many armies at once (AND building a keep and setting up the cistern to the gold at the same time) how many hands does she have?!?! GG wp

  • @danmartinac3266
    @danmartinac3266 7 місяців тому +1

    Radius is the perfect word defining the building's circle of effect.

  • @shomyzee9286
    @shomyzee9286 6 місяців тому

    Im not AOE4 player but this Byzantine architecture is amazing so cool my favorite civilization easy in AOE4. Im buying the game just to play with this civ.

  • @zacharysgro6145
    @zacharysgro6145 7 місяців тому

    I don't think the boar thing is about balance Drongo, its literally the Muslim cultures not eating pork and likely just an immersion/flavor thing.

  • @misterstaple
    @misterstaple 7 місяців тому +1

    I saw themistaa doing this

  • @captainroyalty904
    @captainroyalty904 6 місяців тому

    I remember how everyone would say how hard and bad byzantines are, especially after the nerfs, but Faye truly mastered and show the great potential of the Byzantines.

  • @71kimg
    @71kimg 7 місяців тому

    Doesn’t - 1 cisterns + wheelbarrow kind of do the same thing as more cisterns that early - that’s 50 wood/150 gold

  • @rogerng0
    @rogerng0 7 місяців тому +2

    Is this the same Innovation from SC2?

    • @ADTank1
      @ADTank1 7 місяців тому

      I also wanna know

  • @andyyeung0927
    @andyyeung0927 7 місяців тому

    I've been doing 3 cisterns build since the dlc was released KEKW. Didn't seem competitive so I only did this when I was testing stuff with AI

  • @weedy9583
    @weedy9583 7 місяців тому +1

    26:26 Drongo doing poetry! I never knew I needed this until now!

  • @Thefrabur91
    @Thefrabur91 7 місяців тому +1

    That was impressiv, wp guys

  • @aluvalaakhilesh9513
    @aluvalaakhilesh9513 6 місяців тому

    Has drongos casts always had the rhythm of a child's poem?

  • @sorooshusa
    @sorooshusa 3 місяці тому

    was this a no great bombard challenge? why was it so late?

  • @WitherBossEntity
    @WitherBossEntity 7 місяців тому

    Drongo spitting trocheedactylic verse

  • @bernhardmeyer4294
    @bernhardmeyer4294 7 місяців тому +1

    Faye played this beautiful!

  • @snoober6690
    @snoober6690 7 місяців тому

    30:15 good use of the cistern for dmg reduction i assume

  • @samrumack7593
    @samrumack7593 7 місяців тому

    its pronounced LIM-eh-tah-nee-eye

  • @StanHalen420
    @StanHalen420 7 місяців тому

    She’s on all fours on the top rope 😂😂😂😂

  • @luisgandster420
    @luisgandster420 7 місяців тому +1

    Does flanks !!!!

  • @RogersAB
    @RogersAB 7 місяців тому

    I absolutely love playing AoE but i'm not competitive. I love sitting here on slow nightshifts watching real competitive play from the top players. Having the Aussie sat commenting also makes it so much more worth watching!!

  • @yerdude
    @yerdude 7 місяців тому

    Maaan the Byzantines are broken

  • @jaredwhalen682
    @jaredwhalen682 7 місяців тому

    "I sent the picture to the developers and said explain." For extra effect, I'd throw in the Dr. Who Dalek meme where the Dalek says explain.

  • @fawkesthehawk348
    @fawkesthehawk348 7 місяців тому

    Radius IS the correct term

  • @shipshopa
    @shipshopa 7 місяців тому

    all muslim civs cant take boar

  • @pipe_runner_arcade
    @pipe_runner_arcade 7 місяців тому

    I think the 4 pronged flank is more for the show and doesn't really work since you won't be able to micro at that speed which is exactly what happened here. All here meat shield just got melted by the mangonels.

  • @luhyonel
    @luhyonel 7 місяців тому

    I’m not understanding the score system. Faye has had the largest army and seems killed the most; Innovation has had more vils; Is the point differential because of the vil production?

  • @alexsitaras6508
    @alexsitaras6508 7 місяців тому

    A beautiful Byzantine base, great flanks, and landsnakes putting in work? Perfect game.

  • @blipojones2114
    @blipojones2114 7 місяців тому

    So hyped to be back playing aoe4. The release 2 years ago was shite but with all the general fixes and news civs i have high hopes.

  • @theflyingsamuraii
    @theflyingsamuraii 7 місяців тому

    Is this SC2 Innovation?

  • @JL-vk1rs
    @JL-vk1rs 7 місяців тому

    faye been cooking lately

  • @etiennecousin
    @etiennecousin 7 місяців тому

    A new Napoleon has risen

  • @Decimus92
    @Decimus92 7 місяців тому

    Great job Faye! I will now try 3 Cisterns in Dark Age lol Awesome idea.

  • @robshaw845
    @robshaw845 7 місяців тому

    I did not think she had it

  • @MrHodoAstartes
    @MrHodoAstartes 7 місяців тому

    Beezantines, anyone?

  • @TheMinepath
    @TheMinepath 7 місяців тому

    Wait, this isn’t Innovation the Korean Sc2 Terran right? Is it?

    • @zihengma8430
      @zihengma8430 7 місяців тому

      My question exactly. Would love to know who this innovation is.

  • @1437will
    @1437will 7 місяців тому

    Faye is the most beautiful byzantine's city plan player

  • @hienhoangminh2567
    @hienhoangminh2567 7 місяців тому

    Poetic Drongo ? Hell yeah, 2x the fun, 2x the excitement.

  • @carlossime6572
    @carlossime6572 7 місяців тому

    8:13 how the byzantim player can see the enemy unit? He is on the stealth forest

  • @calvinfulton290
    @calvinfulton290 7 місяців тому

    Drongo couldn't stop rhyming today

  • @唐高翔
    @唐高翔 7 місяців тому

    白门楼修到aoe4来了哈哈哈哈哈

  • @City_Hunter
    @City_Hunter 7 місяців тому

    that cliff in front of Faey base was a nice spawn

  • @fleeseeks
    @fleeseeks 7 місяців тому

    Good tired of the ottoman siege spam

  • @Caico2022
    @Caico2022 7 місяців тому

    32:00 when great bombard nerf?

  • @majortwitched
    @majortwitched 7 місяців тому

    Is that SC2's Innovation?

  • @WorriedCoward
    @WorriedCoward 7 місяців тому

    Is the baby maker a poet too?

  • @Manwu5
    @Manwu5 7 місяців тому

    byzantines tier s plus...behold the absolute powerhouse

    • @08vinster
      @08vinster 7 місяців тому

      Behold the seal clubbing of an easier opponent

  • @alexanderschiegl2901
    @alexanderschiegl2901 7 місяців тому

    First bb

  • @patrickb1303
    @patrickb1303 7 місяців тому +1

    Holy damn AoE 4 exists still. The algorithm thinking I need a refresher lol.

  • @Banaer_TV
    @Banaer_TV 7 місяців тому

    I don’t understand this game on Xbox I rush I die I wait I died what do I do throw the game away? 😢

  • @carlossime6572
    @carlossime6572 7 місяців тому +2

    Pls, can the developers nerf the fkn Otomans? why their great bombards do splash damage against the army? The otomans never used the fkn bombards against soldiers is stupid, they used it against walls, forts and ships is documented. And why they never used against soldiers cos they were inaccurate in their shots failing for more than 80 mts. Nerf the fkn bombards, let the great damage against buildings and a little damage against soldiers (like the french canon). The ballanced in aoe4 late game is freaking me out; the game is ok until third age.

    • @gokcancakmak3739
      @gokcancakmak3739 7 місяців тому

      ottomans didnt use artillery on units?? lol just check battle of mohacs. literally annexed entire kingdom of hungary in a 2 hours long battle with bombards.

    • @AaronOmar-co8bn
      @AaronOmar-co8bn 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gokcancakmak3739 majority of the battle involved infantry and cavalry, while in the early days you had some early pioneers for early gun craft etc. But it was the foot units and horse riders that got involved in the majority of the battle, early cannons etc. were a minor involvement and had less impact in the battle itself, considering the fact that the ottoman armies made up mostly of around 50 to 100,000 military forces on ground or on horse while the guns, as well as cannons were less in numbers such as around 300 or 400.
      in the 1500s is still the early period where early technology did not really have much impact compared to the modern days where you have advanced technology which can be used to cause high impact without using pure numbers of military units.

    • @gokcancakmak3739
      @gokcancakmak3739 7 місяців тому +1

      @@AaronOmar-co8bn You are right with every word but im not saying half of the army was artillery. i know a significant amount of the army were cannons and guns but still we are talking about a time most of the eu powers didnt even had any kind of gun craft. if we consider the time we can say one of the important part about turkish army was cannons since it was the biggest gap between them and their rivals.
      also its not a secret that those cannons were huge compared to any kind of cannons built in that time. so i see no problem putting great cannons in aoe4 to match the authenticity of the turkish empire in a rts game

    • @AaronOmar-co8bn
      @AaronOmar-co8bn 7 місяців тому

      @@gokcancakmak3739 your right, ottoman empire was known for their "great bombard" or known as a significant cannon.
      the very weapon which unlocked the key to Constantinople.

    • @carlossime6572
      @carlossime6572 7 місяців тому

      @@gokcancakmak3739 man ur reading abilities are not good enough arent u? I wrote "great bombards"... otomans have another kind of artillery, and in the mohacs battle the jenizaries fire was decisive to achieve the victory and not the canons, also the canons used it in this battle wanst great bombards, were normal canons lol imagine to try to carry a great bombard that move around 3 km at day for a battle on a open field xD

  • @08vinster
    @08vinster 7 місяців тому

    Laughing my actual ass off.
    Faye chain peaked at 2100 elo, innovation at 1500. She has 5000+ matches. He has a few hundred.
    And you guys are congratulating her on such a well played game. If I play a match against a much easier opponent I am going to play much better because there's so much less pressure giving you mental freedom to apply it elsewhere.

  • @blackcatpack
    @blackcatpack 7 місяців тому

    Yeah another fayechan’s cast