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Fun fact one of the guidebooks actually implies this is the case, at least in Gen 1! It says that pokemon evolve so they won't be abandoned again 😞 (This same book was extremely inconsistent and often straight up wrong so...)
@@myheartismadeofstars hot damn, pokemon with separation anxiety! A perfect match for a human with separation anxiety but only want one on one interaction. Wait... This sounds like Gen 4 implications of Pokemons and humans used to marry each other.
The way I look at it, trade evolutions fast track something that would've happened naturally over time. Steelix Dex entries mention that pressure and temperature deep underground triggered the evolution. Enough time passes with an Onix at that level underground, boom, Steelix. Metal Coat, once incorporated into the body of an Onix during a trade, is like a cheat code for that, giving you an early Steelix. I'm not entirely sure how this hypothesis applies to trade evolutions without items, but maybe it's similar to the way Nosepass and Magnetom evolved by being exposed to magnetic radiation. The particular process that is used to trade puts them in contact with energy that forces evolution.
I always think the energy that forced trade pokemon to evolve is from negative emotions, like when you trade a mon that you spend a lot of time and grew attachments with them...just to be trade away for a better mon,its sort of like feeling of betrayal, frustration, fear of abandonment causes them to evolve in the hope that its OT will get it back Or I just too deep
@@Whatever01345 That could make sense if some pokemon required a high friendship and being traded to evolve. But you can trade a freshly caught Kadabra and get an Alakazam. Though it might be like Mega Evolution, in that the lore says it draws on the strength of your bond, but in game you can Mega something with negative friendship with no drawbacks.
@@Reesemike Magmar and Electabuzz. Both of their evolution items are described as containing vast amounts of fire and electric energy respectively. Magmar bathe in magma, Electabuzz seek out electricity. What happens if a Magmar was able to be front and and center during a volcanic eruption? Or if it spent years bathing in the hottest magma possible? What would happen if Electabuzz took repeated lightning strikes to the face? It seems clear to me that extreme natural phenomena can trigger these evolutions, while the items associated with them can replicate those extreme situations in a safe manner.
They totally would. Oak to see if there are unknown species, and Rowan to study evolution. Also, I don't think the other Professors would be against it
@@darosilvertail7957 Kinda makes sense in older games, not sure in new games if you traded a pokemon their friendship would reset to 0 even if you got it back.
I like to believe that Trading just causes some Energy to generate that causes Evolution. Wild Trade Pokémon just happened to find another source of that energy.
I forget which one it is, but I'm _positive_ one of those trade Pokemon (might be Porygon, actually), confirms that the electric energy involved in the trade process is what stimulates the evolution.
@@benjaminoechsli1941porygon and its evolutions Pokédex entries only talk about installing new software or programming without saying how but pretty much all of shelmet and karrablasts Pokédex entries say they evolve when given electrical stimulation while they are together so that might be where it was confirmed?
Canonically, pokemon evolve from trades due to the vast amount of energy passing through their bodies during the experience. That's why, on rare occasions, energy increases can cause certain pokemon to evolve.
Which is weird because, well, why is trading done via a machine? You can just _hand someone a pokeball._ If it's a matter of theft prevention stuff, reconfiguring a ball for a new owner shouldn't be a hugely energetic process. You know what, I've done enough thinking about this now to see some dark rabbit holes, so I'm gonna just stop
@@sethb3090 I think theft prevention is on the right track. Think about it this way: each Pokemon has a certain ID associated with it and when you catch it, that ID is registered under your name. The Trade Machines are used to transfer ownership legally. That way, when you go to a Pokemon Center or register for a Gym Challenge, the pokemon is legally yours and they don't have to call the police.
@@sethb3090 just handing over a pokemon would be borrowing it instead of trading it. The Pokéball contains the license and information for that Pokemon pertaining to the trainer who caught it (being registered to that trainer is like having a license) So you couldn't just hand it over in exchange for a different Pokemon without the trading machine changing all that data.
It might be simular to how in real life, certain animals (typically the males) must leave the packs that they grew up in, inorder to reach maturity and find a mate. Trading pokemon and seperating them from their trainer might be simular enough to that process.
The Poliwhurl situation actually happened with me. I was trading my polywhirl from my silver into my crystal in order to help me beat chunk, but he was holding the kings rock because it was a good item to hold because of flinch. Out of nowhere he popped up. I was so confused. I was also nine.
legends arceus made the trade pokemon just good to transfer in that game to evolve the possible ones. it just require to give the item and they evolve after
@@zestyvoyage2188 I really hope it's added into gen 10 because my God I don't want to risk it with random people and my friends are in vastly different time zones so it's tough to coordinate in most cases if they aren't busy
For the porygon one I think canon wise of how to explain it, is porygon is returning to the digital plain while traded, and the upgrade it has modifies it's code to update. While porygon Z is the same but with a malware causing it to bug out.
I think I can explain machamp the entire machamp line are devoted to learning martial arts and live in groups so it makes sense that the leaders swap groups to teach the other group their dojos martial art and evolve into machamp to distinguish themselves to make it easier to recognize teachers
I think it fits, some other people have put the theory of how some animals leave their packs near maturity (e.g. male Lions being kicked out of their parents' pride, often joining teen male groups while they search for mates and prides to take over)
I've seen a much looser, more "making whatever sense we can" explanation for machamp and golem too; one loses a set of arms, the other gains some, maybe some genetic alteration considering themes of gen 1?
I heard this once but a theory is that the fact they’re trainers gives them away makes them think they’re weaker and pushes them to become stronger, unlocking this new form/evolution
Maybe a good in-universe way of explaining it (assuming there isnt one already) could be that maybe the trade evo 'Mons evolve once they go through a dramatic change in enviroment or even change to their perspective?
In universe explanation is probably that there is contamination during trade. Some items fuse with the pokemon while in other cases two pokemon "exchange" parts.
I always thought of the trade evolutions being ways that we’ve bypassed a unknown ritual pokemon do in the wild to evolve. Like I believe there are pokedex entries saying how Onix evolve into Steelix by burying themselves and waiting for pressure to transform them. So I always thought of trade evolutions is like the human way of speeding this process up.
It makes sense in gen 1. Golem, Machamp) They get transported via Bill's machine. Parts of each pokemon were mixed with each other. Thats why Golem now has the face machop/machamp had and 2 arms, and Machamp now has 4 arms, from graveler and his face is a lot like Graveler's too. They mixed DNA.
It’s funny cause I have friends who have the other versions and trade evolutions don’t feel fun. It’s more of a chore like “Okay now let me trade you these Pokémon and you have to trade them back to me”
I'm pretty sure in the manga Yellow got trade evolutions without trading, explained as her holding back their first evolution so long that when her Pokedex broke and she couldn't stop them they skipped right to the end evolution even without trade.
Everyone’s talking about the energy in trading being present in the wild. The other option I’ve thought of would be hormones from being abandoned being the cause of the evolution. So in the wild being excommunicated from their pack or by their mate could cause it.
Even though I mostly agree with this, I have to mention Escavalier (from Karrablast) and Accelgor (from Shelmet), the lore behind their evolution method (at least in the original version of the evolution) was really cool.
Karrablast evolves into an Escavelier by wearing the shell it steals from the Shelmet during the trade, which causes the Shelmet to evolve into Accelgor due to how much lighter it now is without its old shell and having to cover itself with more membrane to avoid dehydration.
In generation 1 Machamp and golem are both trade evolutions. The idea is that their DNA got mixed during the trade. This is why Machamp gains an extra set of arms while golem loses a set of arms.
Yes, I’ve always said this. That’s why if you trade certain pokemon with certain items it mixes with their DNA and alters their forms. Accelgor and Escavalier further prove this point because their DNA gets mixed when you trade their pre-evolutions with each other.
Different game copies are supposedly different dimensions from one another, so perhaps it is crossing the boundaries between dimensions that triggers trade evolutions, and the held items release certain energies when in-between dimensions that cause certain pokemon to evolve. And maybe there are rifts in the dimensional barriers of the world somewhere in the wild that wild pokemon can enter to trigger their own evolutions.
I remember hearing it explained as a kid that in universe, the devices used to facilitate proper trading give a quick surge of power to the Pokémon in the ball which can cause evolution. I just figured in the wild, sometimes Pokémon get hit by lightning and evolve into their trade form like that.
There's a few things explained in Black and White. Trade evos require a geoelectrical energy that trading happens to simulate. Many fossil pokemon weren't always rock type, they were affected by the revival process and the sediment they layed in. Stuff like that.
Trainer 1: *asks if someone can trade with his Haunter so it can evolve* Trainer 2: *Offers to trade with a Sunkern he just caught* *both trainers trade* *Haunter evolves into Gengar* Trainer 1: *wants his new Gangar back* Trainer 2: .... *books it with his new Gengar*
Fun fact, that polytoad situation You described literally happens in the Pokémon adventures manga. Gold originally wanted a poliwrath like his hero red, but in an earlier chapter he traded it and then traded it back
Using entries for karrablast and shelmet, it seems that trade evolutions can happen naturally when certain energy envelops the pokémon, so during a trade whatever this energy is is recreated as a happy side effect, and the linking cord from legends arceus also either emits/contains this energy.
I always thought it was that when you trade a pokemon their physical form gets broken down and reassembled on the other side of the trade machine. Some Pokémon’s genetics are prone to mutation in this process so they come out the other side altered. Others when you send them through with an item like steel coat it gets broken up and merged with them altering their form.
One way to interpret trade evolutions is the final evolution tends to break evolutionary progression established from it's previous forms. For instance, Machamp gains an extra set of arms and a very different face than it's pre-evolutions, Alakazam lost its tail when both of his pre-evolutions had one, Dusknoir lost its legs when it just gained them previously, etc. On the other hand, 'mons like Steelix and Scizor (and others) may break this trend as they are apart of lines that only evolve once hence no progression can actually be observed. In which case, the duo-stage trade-evolution pokemon are observe a vastly different change in form by undergoing the trade. Feebas to milotic, Scyther to Scizor, Shelmer to Accelgor all undergo an incredible permanent change from their previous forms that sort of go against what is expected. Of course, there are exceptions to this idea in an opposite sense: Magikarp to Gyarados being a good example as they don't require a trade to evolve, yet they still change quite a lot from its original state that makes it quite unexpected. P.S. this is not an original idea. That credit goes to Lockstin & Gnoggin.
The trading process exposes the Pokémon to an exceptional amout of energy that they could not or rarely encounter otherwise. This energy can sometimes super charge Pokémon pushing them into new forms rarely seen in the wild except for the strongest of the species.
I've always seen it as glitching in the trade system. Machoke gives Graveler his face, Graveler gives Machoke the extra arms. Karrablast and Shelmet do the same thing when evolving to Escavalier and Accelgor, but by Gen 5, the hardware was advanced enough to allow GF to code in the requirement of that specific pair. The "trade item" evos are likely freak mutstions from the item fusing into the pokemon inside the trade machine. And Porygon's line are just absorbing the update patches on the discs
My theory is that trade evolutions only happen to spite the original trainer. The pokemon are like "if you don't want me, I'll become stronger and show you how wrong you were." Those found in the wild could be ones people released because they couldn't get them to evolve, and the same situation happened out of spite.
The first trade evolution was probably what we see in the Adventures Manga: Red and Blue accidentally confuse their poke balls for a moment, then they meet again and give back their original Pokemon. That's when their Pokemon that evolve by trading, actually evolved
There was a plot point in pokespe where two characters had each other's teams for a while, and machoke evolved into machamp by experiencing a different training style. no trade machine required it's been almost two decades but iirc it was red and green (the rival, not the girl) who got lost in a cave or something with each other's pokemon
My sister and I got Violet and Scarlet, respectively, specifically so that we can get the trade evolutions and the version exclusives from each other. I like to believe that our respective playthroughs were parallel universes to each other. From the gender of our respective character to kind of Paradox Pokemon encountered - I think we even went in opposite directions from the city to start the adventure - the two universes acted as mirrors to each other. The first trade evolution we got was Haunter -> Gengar. Going by the headcanon, my sister’s Haunter was exposed to some eldritch energy that exists in the void between universes, perhaps the leftover chaos whereupon Almighty Arceus first created existence. When reality stabilized around the Haunter upon arrival in my “universe,” it utilized this energy to force its evolution into Gengar. At least, that’s my headcanon. Each pair of games being parallel universes to each other.
It’s a game mechanic and it didn’t have to be brought into the anime. Like items such as nevermelt ice or twisted spoon. They made appearances in the anime but didn’t really okay a major role outside of fun plot lines.
In-universe trades are done via machines since pokeballs are locked to the owner's dna, so they're turned into data and that's when they merge with items or with other pokemon in the case of machamp/golem and the gen 5 pair, there are rare situations where a trade evolution happens naturally, and pokemon during events like the space time distortion in pla can evolve with just the item and no trading Also, alolan golem has a seperate pokedex entry from kanto golem in sv and you need both to finish all the dexes in those games, so it's the real last trade evo
I always thought it was weird that you could sometimes find Pokémon like Gengar in the wild. Who Tf released their Gengar? The worst is when you find a Pokémon that only evolves with friendship in the wild like Sylveon, so you know that someone gave that Eevee love, got mad that they didn’t get the evolution they wanted, and released that poor thing in the wild
So I believe I red this somewhere YEARS ago. But basically until the trade system these pokemon didn't exist, or they did and it was a mystery or believed to be non evolving pokemon. Basically the trade system has some kind of change in the pokemons personality. We already see this when they trade and have allegiance changes. So I think that the evolution shows the change in personality was so great that it changed how they look. These pokemon could be considered pokemon that have such an attachment to their partners that they go through physical changes when they are traded away by the ones they are so close to. In the wild maybe pokemon go through these changes when they loose a pokemon so close to them that it affects them personally and this change is only at the same level of pain its reflected with humans when traded between them.
i always saw it as a sort of electric stimulation that's given through the trading process that may or may not occur in nature under the right circumstances.
I'd say a lot of us who started playing Pokemon within the releases of gens 1-3 had friends until we grew apart, got married, and had kids. Then were just too busy to keep in touch
They realized we don’t have friends in Sun and moon and we never got a trade evo after X and Y, but we got a "union circle" evo for Palafin in scarlet and violet
The only pokemon that should have been a trade evolution is Banette, its pokedex literally say its a pokemon that came into being from a grudge of being abanden
The theory I like is that in nature trade evos are a form of life stage evolution for those species. Where say a machoke proves itself by beating it's rival and thus evolves into machamp. Or something similar, trading evokes the same sensation that brings about the evolution by having the pokemon separate from its found family.
I've always just assumed that trading Pokémon through a machine (Which is typically how trades are conducted in game) Flushes both Pokémon with a lot of energy, And that energy kickstart a trade evolution.
Thats why we need another way but a little bit harder to evolve for example kadabra to alakazam. Not deleting the trade evolve system, just adding other way to evolve this type of pokemon.
When Legends Arceus came out and they confrmed that all pokemon are capable of shrinking to escape intense fear or pain, i assumed that trade evolutions were spurred by moving a long distance in tiny form with that magical item
Finally someone said it, for me it was weird there’s trade evolutions in the wild seems like their trainers abandon them but then I remember Pokémon’s like Steelix in Sinnoh is very common in places like Iron Island, and Victory Road. But the fact you mentioned that did any profesor trade the Pokémon with every item I don’t think they do that I remember in the episode that Misty’s poliwhirl was interested in ash’s king rock like was calling to him and then evolved (I know its a trade evolution and misty was a weird exception LOL), but every Pokémon in the anime seems it has a strong connection with a specific item for its evolution even mega evolution, Brock’s Lombre sense a water stone and took it to be a ludiciolo from a girl’s bag pack, professor sycamore has a garchomp and was connected with it’s specific mega stone, also in Journeys when Go caught his pikachu all those wild pikachu appear to a specific cliff because they sense thunder stones to evolve. But still it makes me believe why there’s wild Pokémon like steelix? Could it be when a wild Onix found a metal coat it evolve with the time and trade evolution makes it faster evolution method?
Not my social anxiety havin ahh having to hype myself up to join a pokemon discord to ask someone to trade my haunter back and forth so I could have my Gengar😭
THANK YOU, YES!! As someone who has played Pokémon since the beginning & has *never* had enough friends who also play, trade evolution mon have always been the bane of my existence! 😭 I was SO stinking happy when Legends: Arceus introduced the link cable (or whatever it was called, my brain is mush lmao) which did the job of evolving trade-only mon! They NEED to make that mandatory in every game the same way they introduced exp sharing!
I always just figure that the in world explanation is that the energy that is produced from the trade machine causes the evolution. Meaning that you can’t just have a Pokémon trade where you just hand the other person your Pokémon, and they hand you theirs. It has to go through the trade machine to register the Pokémon to the new trainers. It was more than likely a process that was put in place initially to stop thief groups that would just take peoples Poké balls and then they would be able to keep the Pokémon because possession is 9/10 of the law. The trade machine was invented as a kind of authentication marker. And then I guess people discovered trade evolution through that.
my personal theory is that in universe, in the process of registering ownership of the pokeball the unique energy signature of the trading machines causes a reaction in the pokemon
In the anime, we see Poliwhirl evolve into Politoad by being put inside it's Pokeball while holding a King's Rock. So it seems to have to do with Pokemon doing their whole shrink to be pocket sized thing while holding an item, and the games just limit this by forcing trading to be the catalyst and not the shrinking itself. Still raises questions for the wild ones. Like, can Pokemon control their ability to shrink on their own or does something need to force it? Maybe wild ones evolve like stone evolutions by interacting with magnetic rocks or something that causes their whole shrinking ability to activate. And yes, apparently the shrinking ability of Pokemon does come from the Pokemon themselves and not Pokeballs
if friendship can evolve a pokemon, then abandonment should too 🤗
Shuppet and Banette already have that covered 🤭
Fun fact one of the guidebooks actually implies this is the case, at least in Gen 1! It says that pokemon evolve so they won't be abandoned again 😞
(This same book was extremely inconsistent and often straight up wrong so...)
The dark side of Pokemon they hide😔
@@myheartismadeofstars hot damn, pokemon with separation anxiety! A perfect match for a human with separation anxiety but only want one on one interaction. Wait... This sounds like Gen 4 implications of Pokemons and humans used to marry each other.
Imagine if one day all the Cubone went extinct.
The way I look at it, trade evolutions fast track something that would've happened naturally over time. Steelix Dex entries mention that pressure and temperature deep underground triggered the evolution. Enough time passes with an Onix at that level underground, boom, Steelix. Metal Coat, once incorporated into the body of an Onix during a trade, is like a cheat code for that, giving you an early Steelix. I'm not entirely sure how this hypothesis applies to trade evolutions without items, but maybe it's similar to the way Nosepass and Magnetom evolved by being exposed to magnetic radiation. The particular process that is used to trade puts them in contact with energy that forces evolution.
I always think the energy that forced trade pokemon to evolve is from negative emotions, like when you trade a mon that you spend a lot of time and grew attachments with them...just to be trade away for a better mon,its sort of like feeling of betrayal, frustration, fear of abandonment causes them to evolve in the hope that its OT will get it back
Or I just too deep
@@Whatever01345 That could make sense if some pokemon required a high friendship and being traded to evolve. But you can trade a freshly caught Kadabra and get an Alakazam. Though it might be like Mega Evolution, in that the lore says it draws on the strength of your bond, but in game you can Mega something with negative friendship with no drawbacks.
@@MagusAgrippa8 I do aware of that part
That's my in-universe explanation,the other explanation is probably because God said so
Ok cool now explain literal any other trade evolution with this idea in mind
@@Reesemike Magmar and Electabuzz. Both of their evolution items are described as containing vast amounts of fire and electric energy respectively. Magmar bathe in magma, Electabuzz seek out electricity. What happens if a Magmar was able to be front and and center during a volcanic eruption? Or if it spent years bathing in the hottest magma possible? What would happen if Electabuzz took repeated lightning strikes to the face? It seems clear to me that extreme natural phenomena can trigger these evolutions, while the items associated with them can replicate those extreme situations in a safe manner.
"Do you think Professors trade Pokemon woth different items to see if it would evolve?"
Rowan: hello there
They totally would. Oak to see if there are unknown species, and Rowan to study evolution. Also, I don't think the other Professors would be against it
@dansilvernight3021 I feel like every professor would be in on it aside from prof. Birch(or was it Elm I was thinking of?)
Bill literally turned himself into a Clefairy and/or Kabuto just to see what would happen. Pokemon Professors are just pokemaniacs with funding.
when i was younger i just thought that trade evolutions are opposite of friendship evolution and due to being abandoned by their trainer they evolve
@@spsmlsk that's actually not a bad theory
If so wouldnt there be a low frienship evolution then?
@@darosilvertail7957 trade évolution is à way for them to show they traîner that they can Stiller be useful to them
@@darosilvertail7957 Kinda makes sense in older games, not sure in new games if you traded a pokemon their friendship would reset to 0 even if you got it back.
Wait, that would be a good explanation on why friendship level resets at trading a pokemon
Technically Alolan Golem was the last trade evolution
Finizen is just as bad as trade evolution
@@petrmatejka4945 Serves you right for respecting a dolphin.
What’s a rate evolution?
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
I like to believe that Trading just causes some Energy to generate that causes Evolution. Wild Trade Pokémon just happened to find another source of that energy.
Can they tell me where that source of energy is because I hate trade evos
Coming with gta 8@@Terra_Egg
I forget which one it is, but I'm _positive_ one of those trade Pokemon (might be Porygon, actually), confirms that the electric energy involved in the trade process is what stimulates the evolution.
@@benjaminoechsli1941porygon and its evolutions Pokédex entries only talk about installing new software or programming without saying how but pretty much all of shelmet and karrablasts Pokédex entries say they evolve when given electrical stimulation while they are together so that might be where it was confirmed?
@@benjaminoechsli1941It’s karrablast and shelmet
Canonically, pokemon evolve from trades due to the vast amount of energy passing through their bodies during the experience. That's why, on rare occasions, energy increases can cause certain pokemon to evolve.
Which is weird because, well, why is trading done via a machine? You can just _hand someone a pokeball._ If it's a matter of theft prevention stuff, reconfiguring a ball for a new owner shouldn't be a hugely energetic process.
You know what, I've done enough thinking about this now to see some dark rabbit holes, so I'm gonna just stop
@@sethb3090 I think theft prevention is on the right track. Think about it this way: each Pokemon has a certain ID associated with it and when you catch it, that ID is registered under your name. The Trade Machines are used to transfer ownership legally. That way, when you go to a Pokemon Center or register for a Gym Challenge, the pokemon is legally yours and they don't have to call the police.
@@sethb3090 just handing over a pokemon would be borrowing it instead of trading it. The Pokéball contains the license and information for that Pokemon pertaining to the trainer who caught it (being registered to that trainer is like having a license) So you couldn't just hand it over in exchange for a different Pokemon without the trading machine changing all that data.
And then there's Karrablast/Shelmet.
@@sethb3090 Speaking about rabit holes, what about the pokeballs themselves? I don't know for how long I've really thought about those darn things
"Cool, it suddenly evolved!"
"Now trade it back."
The next action determines the holders fate
It might be simular to how in real life, certain animals (typically the males) must leave the packs that they grew up in, inorder to reach maturity and find a mate. Trading pokemon and seperating them from their trainer might be simular enough to that process.
This is my headcannon for this now
Thank you know this will be my headcanon for the rest of my life
That's actually a genuinely good theory
“The Pokémon company wants us to have friends” nah they just want our money
The Poliwhurl situation actually happened with me. I was trading my polywhirl from my silver into my crystal in order to help me beat chunk, but he was holding the kings rock because it was a good item to hold because of flinch. Out of nowhere he popped up. I was so confused. I was also nine.
The explanation: your Pokemon hates you so much that you need to give it to another person to make it evolve
Trading evolution is fine there's just one problem, I have no friends to help me 😭
Solution: Another console.
@@Green24152 I have no money to buy another one 😭
legends arceus made the trade pokemon just good to transfer in that game to evolve the possible ones. it just require to give the item and they evolve after
Linking Cable my beloved.
It's such a shame that the linking cable isn't in scarlet and violet
@@zestyvoyage2188 I really hope it's added into gen 10 because my God I don't want to risk it with random people and my friends are in vastly different time zones so it's tough to coordinate in most cases if they aren't busy
“They wanted us to have friends up until sun and moon”
*Finizen needing friends to evolve
For the porygon one I think canon wise of how to explain it, is porygon is returning to the digital plain while traded, and the upgrade it has modifies it's code to update. While porygon Z is the same but with a malware causing it to bug out.
I think I can explain machamp the entire machamp line are devoted to learning martial arts and live in groups so it makes sense that the leaders swap groups to teach the other group their dojos martial art and evolve into machamp to distinguish themselves to make it easier to recognize teachers
I think it fits, some other people have put the theory of how some animals leave their packs near maturity (e.g. male Lions being kicked out of their parents' pride, often joining teen male groups while they search for mates and prides to take over)
NO ONE EVER IS DISAPPOINTED WWITH POLITOED HE IS PERFECT! IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIM YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!
Lmao 🤣
I'm glad someone beat me to this! Politoed is love, Politoed is life! 💕🐸
'wait no stop give that back😢' that really got me 😂😂💀
The only trade evo that makes sense is Karrablast and Shelmet
I've seen a much looser, more "making whatever sense we can" explanation for machamp and golem too; one loses a set of arms, the other gains some, maybe some genetic alteration considering themes of gen 1?
@@lilpetz500 from what i understand, they couldnt afford the Graveler + machoke = Graveler + Machamp evolution in gen 1 cartridge space
I heard this once but a theory is that the fact they’re trainers gives them away makes them think they’re weaker and pushes them to become stronger, unlocking this new form/evolution
Palafin (I know it isn't trade but we need money and friends)
Palafin is the first true paid evolution. You quite literally need to buy a subscription to evolve him.
I don't have Nintendo online for Scarlet and found palafin in a raid den
@@ArldavisBut did you evolve Palafin? Because if not, then what they said is still true
@@Damini368palafin is the evolved version of finizen. You can’t evolve it anymore.
Instructions unclear
Guy from Facebook marketplace will not resell me back my computer to see if it evolved
Maybe a good in-universe way of explaining it (assuming there isnt one already) could be that maybe the trade evo 'Mons evolve once they go through a dramatic change in enviroment or even change to their perspective?
In universe explanation is probably that there is contamination during trade. Some items fuse with the pokemon while in other cases two pokemon "exchange" parts.
I always thought of the trade evolutions being ways that we’ve bypassed a unknown ritual pokemon do in the wild to evolve. Like I believe there are pokedex entries saying how Onix evolve into Steelix by burying themselves and waiting for pressure to transform them. So I always thought of trade evolutions is like the human way of speeding this process up.
Luckily, there's the Linking Cord item.
Only in Legends tho
Is that item still around?
@@WonderWopunny only in Legends Arceus and Pokémon Sleep. Nowhere else
@@raythero8285 they need to bring it back, they go to realize we don't got friends
@@WonderWopunny yeah true XD
trading with an item symbolizes an important experience & hardship the pokemon must face to evolve.
It makes sense in gen 1. Golem, Machamp) They get transported via Bill's machine. Parts of each pokemon were mixed with each other. Thats why Golem now has the face machop/machamp had and 2 arms, and Machamp now has 4 arms, from graveler and his face is a lot like Graveler's too. They mixed DNA.
It’s funny cause I have friends who have the other versions and trade evolutions don’t feel fun. It’s more of a chore like “Okay now let me trade you these Pokémon and you have to trade them back to me”
Head canon I have for trade item evolving is basically that one story where a guy gets fused with a fly cause of a teleporter
I'm pretty sure in the manga Yellow got trade evolutions without trading, explained as her holding back their first evolution so long that when her Pokedex broke and she couldn't stop them they skipped right to the end evolution even without trade.
Everyone’s talking about the energy in trading being present in the wild. The other option I’ve thought of would be hormones from being abandoned being the cause of the evolution. So in the wild being excommunicated from their pack or by their mate could cause it.
Alolan golem was the last trade evolution introduced
This is why legends Z-A BETTER have the link cable
Even though I mostly agree with this, I have to mention Escavalier (from Karrablast) and Accelgor (from Shelmet), the lore behind their evolution method (at least in the original version of the evolution) was really cool.
Karrablast evolves into an Escavelier by wearing the shell it steals from the Shelmet during the trade, which causes the Shelmet to evolve into Accelgor due to how much lighter it now is without its old shell and having to cover itself with more membrane to avoid dehydration.
In generation 1 Machamp and golem are both trade evolutions. The idea is that their DNA got mixed during the trade. This is why Machamp gains an extra set of arms while golem loses a set of arms.
Yes, I’ve always said this. That’s why if you trade certain pokemon with certain items it mixes with their DNA and alters their forms.
Accelgor and Escavalier further prove this point because their DNA gets mixed when you trade their pre-evolutions with each other.
Different game copies are supposedly different dimensions from one another, so perhaps it is crossing the boundaries between dimensions that triggers trade evolutions, and the held items release certain energies when in-between dimensions that cause certain pokemon to evolve. And maybe there are rifts in the dimensional barriers of the world somewhere in the wild that wild pokemon can enter to trigger their own evolutions.
Not a trade evolution, but Finizen only evolves in a union circle, so a mechanic requiring friends.
I remember hearing it explained as a kid that in universe, the devices used to facilitate proper trading give a quick surge of power to the Pokémon in the ball which can cause evolution. I just figured in the wild, sometimes Pokémon get hit by lightning and evolve into their trade form like that.
Maybe due multiple professors trying different ways to evolve a mon they trade them around
“Gourgeist was the last trade evolution” meanwhile Alolan Golem 🗿
There's a few things explained in Black and White. Trade evos require a geoelectrical energy that trading happens to simulate. Many fossil pokemon weren't always rock type, they were affected by the revival process and the sediment they layed in. Stuff like that.
Trainer 1: *asks if someone can trade with his Haunter so it can evolve*
Trainer 2: *Offers to trade with a Sunkern he just caught*
*both trainers trade*
*Haunter evolves into Gengar*
Trainer 1: *wants his new Gangar back*
Trainer 2: .... *books it with his new Gengar*
Fun fact, that polytoad situation You described literally happens in the Pokémon adventures manga. Gold originally wanted a poliwrath like his hero red, but in an earlier chapter he traded it and then traded it back
Using entries for karrablast and shelmet, it seems that trade evolutions can happen naturally when certain energy envelops the pokémon, so during a trade whatever this energy is is recreated as a happy side effect, and the linking cord from legends arceus also either emits/contains this energy.
Trade signifies betrayal by the original trainer and the held items are the tools of revenge.
I always thought it was that when you trade a pokemon their physical form gets broken down and reassembled on the other side of the trade machine. Some Pokémon’s genetics are prone to mutation in this process so they come out the other side altered. Others when you send them through with an item like steel coat it gets broken up and merged with them altering their form.
One way to interpret trade evolutions is the final evolution tends to break evolutionary progression established from it's previous forms. For instance, Machamp gains an extra set of arms and a very different face than it's pre-evolutions, Alakazam lost its tail when both of his pre-evolutions had one, Dusknoir lost its legs when it just gained them previously, etc.
On the other hand, 'mons like Steelix and Scizor (and others) may break this trend as they are apart of lines that only evolve once hence no progression can actually be observed. In which case, the duo-stage trade-evolution pokemon are observe a vastly different change in form by undergoing the trade. Feebas to milotic, Scyther to Scizor, Shelmer to Accelgor all undergo an incredible permanent change from their previous forms that sort of go against what is expected. Of course, there are exceptions to this idea in an opposite sense: Magikarp to Gyarados being a good example as they don't require a trade to evolve, yet they still change quite a lot from its original state that makes it quite unexpected.
P.S. this is not an original idea. That credit goes to Lockstin & Gnoggin.
The trading process exposes the Pokémon to an exceptional amout of energy that they could not or rarely encounter otherwise.
This energy can sometimes super charge Pokémon pushing them into new forms rarely seen in the wild except for the strongest of the species.
You take that back about rhyperior!
I've always seen it as glitching in the trade system.
Machoke gives Graveler his face, Graveler gives Machoke the extra arms.
Karrablast and Shelmet do the same thing when evolving to Escavalier and Accelgor, but by Gen 5, the hardware was advanced enough to allow GF to code in the requirement of that specific pair.
The "trade item" evos are likely freak mutstions from the item fusing into the pokemon inside the trade machine. And Porygon's line are just absorbing the update patches on the discs
My theory is that trade evolutions only happen to spite the original trainer. The pokemon are like "if you don't want me, I'll become stronger and show you how wrong you were." Those found in the wild could be ones people released because they couldn't get them to evolve, and the same situation happened out of spite.
I always figured that the energy used in trading jump started the evolution process. Trade evolutions exist in the wild but they're rare.
The first trade evolution was probably what we see in the Adventures Manga: Red and Blue accidentally confuse their poke balls for a moment, then they meet again and give back their original Pokemon. That's when their Pokemon that evolve by trading, actually evolved
Its a method that acts as a conditional mutation. Think of it as either merging a pokemon with something or acting like a spark in their genetics.
I vaguely remember something about wild trade pokemon getting struck by lightning to evolve
I'm now naming my Porygon "Facebook Marketplace"
that one cave in mystery dungeon they go to for evolving
There was a plot point in pokespe where two characters had each other's teams for a while, and machoke evolved into machamp by experiencing a different training style. no trade machine required
it's been almost two decades but iirc it was red and green (the rival, not the girl) who got lost in a cave or something with each other's pokemon
I think the reason there are trade evolutions in the wild is the Pokémon traded territory with another Pokémon, thus causing it to evolve.
My sister and I got Violet and Scarlet, respectively, specifically so that we can get the trade evolutions and the version exclusives from each other.
I like to believe that our respective playthroughs were parallel universes to each other. From the gender of our respective character to kind of Paradox Pokemon encountered - I think we even went in opposite directions from the city to start the adventure - the two universes acted as mirrors to each other.
The first trade evolution we got was Haunter -> Gengar. Going by the headcanon, my sister’s Haunter was exposed to some eldritch energy that exists in the void between universes, perhaps the leftover chaos whereupon Almighty Arceus first created existence. When reality stabilized around the Haunter upon arrival in my “universe,” it utilized this energy to force its evolution into Gengar.
At least, that’s my headcanon. Each pair of games being parallel universes to each other.
There was a wild Seadra who evolved into Kingdra in the anime Pokemon Journeys
I have always felt that Trade Evolution mimics some kind of natural radiation
I imagine something like if an Onix leaves its group to join another, it may evolve
Porygon is the one that makes the most sense: It absorbs the upgrade as it's turned into data to go through the link cable.
My thought process is that trade evolutions made the pokemon so sad and angry at being rejected that it evolves due to hatred
They evolve through happiness... they're happy to be rid of ya.
It’s a game mechanic and it didn’t have to be brought into the anime. Like items such as nevermelt ice or twisted spoon. They made appearances in the anime but didn’t really okay a major role outside of fun plot lines.
I think it’s partially the fear of being rejected, and they try to evolve to not disappoint their next trainer, same case for releasing.
Literally me in elementary school, trading Graveler to my friend and seeing it evolve into Golem.
"Wait! Give that back!"
Fun fact, a Pokemon Tabletop simply did away with that, and just gave it a level requirement.
In-universe trades are done via machines since pokeballs are locked to the owner's dna, so they're turned into data and that's when they merge with items or with other pokemon in the case of machamp/golem and the gen 5 pair, there are rare situations where a trade evolution happens naturally, and pokemon during events like the space time distortion in pla can evolve with just the item and no trading
Also, alolan golem has a seperate pokedex entry from kanto golem in sv and you need both to finish all the dexes in those games, so it's the real last trade evo
I do like the Linking Cord item in Legends Arceus. It’s a cute nod to trading evolutions without making us actually trade
I always thought it was weird that you could sometimes find Pokémon like Gengar in the wild. Who Tf released their Gengar? The worst is when you find a Pokémon that only evolves with friendship in the wild like Sylveon, so you know that someone gave that Eevee love, got mad that they didn’t get the evolution they wanted, and released that poor thing in the wild
Now who in their right mind would be DISAPPOINTED to receive a Politoed, that’s just a happy accident
My head cannon is for the wild Pokémon it’s like if they switch tribes
So I believe I red this somewhere YEARS ago. But basically until the trade system these pokemon didn't exist, or they did and it was a mystery or believed to be non evolving pokemon.
Basically the trade system has some kind of change in the pokemons personality. We already see this when they trade and have allegiance changes. So I think that the evolution shows the change in personality was so great that it changed how they look. These pokemon could be considered pokemon that have such an attachment to their partners that they go through physical changes when they are traded away by the ones they are so close to.
In the wild maybe pokemon go through these changes when they loose a pokemon so close to them that it affects them personally and this change is only at the same level of pain its reflected with humans when traded between them.
i always saw it as a sort of electric stimulation that's given through the trading process that may or may not occur in nature under the right circumstances.
I'd say a lot of us who started playing Pokemon within the releases of gens 1-3 had friends until we grew apart, got married, and had kids. Then were just too busy to keep in touch
They realized we don’t have friends in Sun and moon and we never got a trade evo after X and Y, but we got a "union circle" evo for Palafin in scarlet and violet
Didn’t you have to trade for alolan golem
@@ericneely3028 idk, I never played Sun and Moon, I was planning on getting them soon
I mean gourgeist may have been the last traditional trade evo, but its memory still lives on with palafin needing the goddamn union circle or whatever
The only pokemon that should have been a trade evolution is Banette, its pokedex literally say its a pokemon that came into being from a grudge of being abanden
I'm sure they can evolve without trade out of the games. Even in some games (Pokémon Go) you can evolve them without trading.
The theory I like is that in nature trade evos are a form of life stage evolution for those species. Where say a machoke proves itself by beating it's rival and thus evolves into machamp. Or something similar, trading evokes the same sensation that brings about the evolution by having the pokemon separate from its found family.
Looks like a pokemon conquest animation of the alakazam
I've always just assumed that trading Pokémon through a machine (Which is typically how trades are conducted in game) Flushes both Pokémon with a lot of energy, And that energy kickstart a trade evolution.
Thats why we need another way but a little bit harder to evolve for example kadabra to alakazam. Not deleting the trade evolve system, just adding other way to evolve this type of pokemon.
When Legends Arceus came out and they confrmed that all pokemon are capable of shrinking to escape intense fear or pain, i assumed that trade evolutions were spurred by moving a long distance in tiny form with that magical item
I could've sworn something was said somewhere about a unique electromagnetic frequency within the 'tradescape' being responsible for trade evolutions.
I always felt that the trading device alters their DNA based on the item they're holding, while in the wild may indeed be released and feral.
Finally someone said it, for me it was weird there’s trade evolutions in the wild seems like their trainers abandon them but then I remember Pokémon’s like Steelix in Sinnoh is very common in places like Iron Island, and Victory Road. But the fact you mentioned that did any profesor trade the Pokémon with every item I don’t think they do that I remember in the episode that Misty’s poliwhirl was interested in ash’s king rock like was calling to him and then evolved (I know its a trade evolution and misty was a weird exception LOL), but every Pokémon in the anime seems it has a strong connection with a specific item for its evolution even mega evolution, Brock’s Lombre sense a water stone and took it to be a ludiciolo from a girl’s bag pack, professor sycamore has a garchomp and was connected with it’s specific mega stone, also in Journeys when Go caught his pikachu all those wild pikachu appear to a specific cliff because they sense thunder stones to evolve.
But still it makes me believe why there’s wild Pokémon like steelix? Could it be when a wild Onix found a metal coat it evolve with the time and trade evolution makes it faster evolution method?
Not my social anxiety havin ahh having to hype myself up to join a pokemon discord to ask someone to trade my haunter back and forth so I could have my Gengar😭
THANK YOU, YES!! As someone who has played Pokémon since the beginning & has *never* had enough friends who also play, trade evolution mon have always been the bane of my existence! 😭 I was SO stinking happy when Legends: Arceus introduced the link cable (or whatever it was called, my brain is mush lmao) which did the job of evolving trade-only mon! They NEED to make that mandatory in every game the same way they introduced exp sharing!
I always just figure that the in world explanation is that the energy that is produced from the trade machine causes the evolution.
Meaning that you can’t just have a Pokémon trade where you just hand the other person your Pokémon, and they hand you theirs.
It has to go through the trade machine to register the Pokémon to the new trainers.
It was more than likely a process that was put in place initially to stop thief groups that would just take peoples Poké balls and then they would be able to keep the Pokémon because possession is 9/10 of the law.
The trade machine was invented as a kind of authentication marker.
And then I guess people discovered trade evolution through that.
I personally think that its just a pokemon getting hit by a strong enough electrical current in a confined space that causes evolution
my personal theory is that in universe, in the process of registering ownership of the pokeball the unique energy signature of the trading machines causes a reaction in the pokemon
In the anime, we see Poliwhirl evolve into Politoad by being put inside it's Pokeball while holding a King's Rock. So it seems to have to do with Pokemon doing their whole shrink to be pocket sized thing while holding an item, and the games just limit this by forcing trading to be the catalyst and not the shrinking itself. Still raises questions for the wild ones. Like, can Pokemon control their ability to shrink on their own or does something need to force it? Maybe wild ones evolve like stone evolutions by interacting with magnetic rocks or something that causes their whole shrinking ability to activate.
And yes, apparently the shrinking ability of Pokemon does come from the Pokemon themselves and not Pokeballs
I mean even as far back as the original anime we were seeing wild Gengar and Alakazam
Fun fact the Politoed thing actually happened in the manga with Gold!