Bonnevilles Are the Best Triumphs... Change My Mind | Thruxton 900 Review
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I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of Triumph motorcycles. They just don't do it for me, but the Bonnevilles are right up my alley. They're often made fun of as being hipster mobiles but I think they're the best bikes Triumph makes. Change my mind!
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00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Twisties
05:57 - Specs
10:00 - Highway
14:00 - Discord Q&A
18:16 - Triumph Or Royal Enfield? - Авто та транспорт
Do you like the Bonnevilles or do you think they're just hipster bait, and I'm a secret hipster?
That was my dream bike growing up.
I just bought an MT07 2024, which i love.
But the Bonnevilles are the best looking bikes besides ducatis. Imo
Not a fan of fake looking carbs, or the fact the originals where lighter..
I own an ‘01 Bonneville (real carbs) and I believe I’ll never part with it, even though I hate fiddling with the carbs. She’s a garage hibernator and comes out on weekends and/or when I grow irritated of the cramps I get on the Street Triple.
Nothing hipster about appreciating classic styling. One of the advantages bikes have over cars is that they are not as restricted by modern safety regulations so can style a bike however they want I'm sure Ford would love to make Mustangs that look like they are from the 60s but modern crumple zones and pedestrian safety makes that impossible. I have a V7 in my collection and it's a great "clear your head" type of bike where you can enjoy your surroundings and the motor without worrying about pushing beyond your limitations or cops hiding behind bushes with speed cameras.
@@JamesExcell-InterJex What would you have put in place of the fake carbs that are there in place of real carbs?
I love my T120 and i think bonnevilles are generally very practical bikes that you can go a lot out of. For instance, it's daily rideable, it's touring friendly, and its comfortable for a pillion. if anything i think it's something that's capable of being a permanent fixture in anyone's stable.
Also have the T120 and I have used it from going to work, carving moutain roads, to touring, to two up touring across multiple countries.(I live in Europe). Loads of torque. Looks outstanding as well. Miles better then my old Harley Road King. Also has been bulletproof.
I don't wanna change your mind because you're absolutely right
With respect, if you don’t weigh 250 lb 65 horsepower is plenty for most of us. CB 750 was 67, as was BMW 90 S.
At 100 kilos, can 65HP give you acceleration from 70 to 85 or 90 MPH on highways? This is a legit, honest question, not a gotcha comment.
@@uberchet2 Yes, but depends what u consider enough acceleration and on other variables like vehicle mass,torque and gearing. Definitely enough to overtake a vehicle travelling at 60 or 70 mph IMO
@@collyernicholasjohn Speed limits are so much higher, and traffic flow so much faster, than int eh day of the CB you mention that I feel like it might still be a little light for highway miles.
The freeways in Houston routinely roll at 80.
@@uberchet2I wouldn’t ride solo in Houston during the day.
@@charlesrocks If I didn't ride solo in Houston during the day, I'd never go anywhere, so thanks for your input I guess?
I love my street scrambler so much the 900cc bonnoville engine is so much fun
Love my thruxton 900. It's really fun to ride all the pieces fit together very nice. I can ride all day without getting bored. I'm 68 and it makes me feel decades younger I'm not looking to race anyone except father time. Every time I stop people circle it and smile. I have owned goldwing, Electra glide kawasaki concours,Roadking. It feels like a toy. Nah don't call it a beginner. It's a mature fun bike. That is a great extra bike. Mine has upgraded suspension sticky tires fender elimination and brit custom exhaust that provide beautiful music.
100% with you!
Mr. Spite- You are right about the charming nature of the 900 Thruxton. Mine is a 2006 model with carbs and came with a sweet-sounding set of TOR pipes. Now into my 8th decade there is some possibility that I might look into handlebar risers to be more comfortable, as my bike has the older style low Thruxton clip-ons (but I'll likely keep them as they are). This was a fun review of a nice bike.
there couldn’t be a more SPOT ON review of this bike 🖤
I own 2013 Thruxton 900 w/o cowl. My first bike. Don't have experience with other bikes other than scooters, just my impressions. I agree with everything in review. My thoughts bellow.
plus:
- amazing looks, in person it looks way better than on video or photos.
- manageable power for starting bike, linear power delivery that never caught me offguard
- beautiful sound (aftermarket exhaust)!!
- slender profile, no problems filtering
- torque
- want to keep it in bedroom, it's just that beautiful
minus:
- higway speed, it just looses steam above 120 kph
- lacks 6th gear in my opinion
- brakes, soft and mushy
- top heavy
- turning circle
Few notes. Wrist pain after one and a half hour of driving, but this was to be expected because of design of the bike. It can be tail happy, maybe it's just my inexperience or tyres? not sure. No problem with rust, but I'm driving it in warmer southern Europe, and only on dry weather.
I have a 22 Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster. It's a completely different style of Bonneville and I love it.
As a former Thruxton owner, let me help you with the description.
"The bike makes you feel good." Whatever that 'feel' is. Each its own.
That's it, is average at most stuff. But you feel great on it.
Calling it experience it's a weirdo thing. XD
Pretty fair review (though I don't have any issues with the brakes, they're adequate enough for the job), I prefer the Bonneville over the Thruxton, but each to their own etc. Great all rounder bike for commuting, touring and weekend blats. Plenty of power for me as a rider with 20 years experience, but I'm not a speed demon.
The T120 I think is the world's best motorbike. Good value, good performance, good styling, good practicality, good reliability, good MPG. It's probably thr most iconic bike ever made and therefore it has a timeless look
Dream bike of mine was the Triumph Bonneville last year i finally got the model i wanted the 790cc 2004 carb model ...its fun its great to ride and it has that Triumph sound of the the 70s and 80s i can tour two up with luggage and can sit with other bikes very well ...taken a while to find one here in New Zealand but its a keeper and everything you have said in your vid is all true mate nice to hear someone talk with passion about a bike 👍👍👍👍
2014 triumph thruxton, one of my favorite bikes I've owned. But the lack of adequate braking power as well as low 'passing' power on the highway just didn't do it for me.
I love my Street Cup, it was basically the water cooled successor to the Thruxton 900. It is very accessible but still a ton of fun to ride. I also love how customizable it is, I have already spent a ton of money on parts I can swap in and out to change it to be more sporty or more practical for touring, depending on how I want to ride that day.
Got one of those, but I put a bench seat on it and changed to a low flat bar; so it looks a little scrambler-ish. Then I got a Thruxton 900, too last year.
One day I’ll have a T100. Test rode one 20 years ago and LOVED it, plenty fast for me.
Hey Spite, finally got on two wheels yesterday after having a license for a year but not using it. My MT-03 is treating me well so far!
Welcome to the family!
I love my T120! Your comment about power in 5th on the ~900cc engine makes sense. I can't use 6th (overdrive) on my T120 to accelerate at freeway speeds, so the smaller ~900cc motors probably don't even have the power to handle overdrive.
I switched out the OEM Pirellis on my t120 for Bridgestone Battlaxe bt46 tires and it made an immediate improvement in the bikes handling. Here in Tennessee we are fortunate to have plenty of actual twisties and man is this thing fun to ride!
That's an OLD Thruxton!! The 865 was a reasonable bike and FIRST of the retro café racer bikes! Up to this point, the only cafe racer you could get was a custom built bike! What REALLY changed the flavour LATER, was the reduced front end rake, which made the bike more "flickable"! The gearbox was also improved and the front screen was often replaced with a Monza half fairing, which enhanced the looks no end.
I do believe the "clip ons" were slightly lower giving a more sporty tuck too?
The NEW Triumph range REALLY got into it's stride in this period and in my opinion was PEAK Triumph! Thus was when the 1600cc Thunderbird was introduced which in turn led to the development of the 1200! (completely unnecessary and complete overkill!)
One of the reasons the Royal Enfield 650 twins became SO popular, is that Triumph owners and admirers had been BEGGING the factory for a middleweight twin since the FIRST Bonneville was shown at it's launch, but were ignored! Royal Enfield picked up in that, along with sympathetic engineers from the Triumph factory, and built what the fans REALLY WANTED!
I have a used 2021 900 Street Twin with very few miles on it (2,500km when I bought it 2 months ago). Everything you say about the Thruxton still applies except I think you will find they are now all water cooled. That is, comfortable and relaxed riding, crap brakes and OEM tyres especially if you run the latter at recommended pressures. Put an extra 4psi in them and they work a lot better. My best way of describing the riding experience is that they progress forward in a gentlemanly manner. At my age (77) that is just what I want - and the low seat on the Street Twin (765mm). I have ducks disease. Heading off tomorrow for a leisurely ride down to Philip Island for the first round of WSBK. 1,500km each way by every backroad I can find.
Ron White actually said "It's not that the wind is blowing, it's what the wind is blowing".
I've always liked the Bonnevilles.
Close enough lol
I absolutely love the 865cc PT in these triumphs. They are absolute gems! I could never sell my 2012 t100 of course it’s far from stock 😅
If it has the same engine as my 2005 Speedmaster, 865cc 270 degree parallel twin, one thing that has to be mentioned is the soundtrack when you put some open pipes on it. Oh my god it sounds so good. It doesn't have the lope of a Harley but it does have a similar sharp, addicting bite when you rev it. It doesn't have the same sewing machine sound that many other 270 degreen p-twins have.
That said Triumph did do this same engine in two configurations, 180 (or was it 360...) and 270. America, Speedmaster and Scrambler had the 270 degree and Bonneville had 180 (or 360). I do not remember which one Thruxton has but the 180 (slash 360) one obviously does not sound as good.
Also while it is not a power house when stock, it does respond well to a basic Stage 1 tune up. Airbox Removal Kit (Pods straight into the intake), open exhaust and a dyno tune. Noticeably more peppery after that.
My friend just traded his speedmaster for one of these. It's the same engine, but he says it's an entirely different feel and way more fun. Not to mention it looks amazing!
I really love the look of the Speed Twin 1200.
Triumphs are great! No doubt! But you know what, I have for few years now, after owning yamahas, an old triumph daytona 955i sport bike. Witch was know as gentelmens superbike! What a classic and great ride too! Specialy for bigs guys like me and you 😃 of you could get your hands on one, please make a video about oldfashion power from triumph 😃 allso great video 😁
I have a Trident and a Scrambler 1200XE. Love the fat low end torque curve of the Bonnie but the Trident is also a lot of fun.
Spite fella, have you tried the later Street Twin? They initially seem a little small for those of us that are shaved Wookies, (I'm 6'5") but they take the best elements from this bike, I.E. the grunty, usable engine and great comfort and then adds better handling, even more torque and modern niceties such as ABS. I absolutely love mine and cannot see me parting with it.
i ride my newchurch bonnie like a sportbike, we knee down with the bigger supersports no problem. the customization options are about on par with harley without the crazy harley prices. i love it. might supercharge it if i keep it since i'm done building it. i've got a ttp and done everything short of slapping in the crate motor and big bore, raised redline to 8500. it rips.
Love my t100. Looks cool as and you feel cool as riding it
This might be vain and it may be my daddy issues manifesting but one reason I love my Thruxton is that Dads LOVE the bike. I’ll get thumbs up from semi drivers on the highway and I be giggling in my helmet lol
Triumphs are awesome! I started on a Speedmaster, it was a great ride. I’ve never been concerned about power figures, my riding style has always been laid back cruising. Traded in my speedy for a Lowrider ST which I also absolutely love. A lot more power, but I still ride with the same laid back style.
Still miss owning a Triumph. I want to try out one of the Scrambler 400s and see if it would be a good secondary bike for me. Not a Bonnie engine, but they look pretty good
You should get your hands on one of the Royal Enfield 650s. I know you guys had one at YN for a bit, but I'd love to hear your take on them. I love mine but I am considering upgrading to one of the new Triumph Scramblers (because yes I am still hanging onto the hipster culture of 2010)
Is this one of the Triumph bike's that you can remove the airbox baffle and tune for some decent gains? I know I've seen videos of it on the Bonneville, but idk if they're significantly different than these.
You should try the bonneville bobber! The more recent ones with both 16in wheels and brembo brakes.
love my 2008 (carbureted) Thruxton.
Though it is true that the "modern classics" are much more about style than performance; that doesn't mean they don't perform well.
The Thruxton is a blast to ride as an around town commuter and on day trips.
Yes, it'd be grueling to ride on a long haul compared to an adventure bike or cruiser and similarly sized sports bikes will beat it on the track.
But it looks cool, get compliments nearly every time I'm out, and is so much fun to be on.
What i get from watching Spites videos is that. Bikes are fun, all of them! Except for the versys, the versys is a souleater.
I think the weight issue might be a combination of narrow tyres and handlebar, as well as a large tank that is kept reasonably high up.
Great. Now I want a T120. Thanks, Spite.
Then I did my job lol
I have an 03 Bonnie and have put a six pot on the front and upgrade the suspension and mine is a great twisties bike..
I considered a speed twin 900. Went with a guzzi v7 850 instead. Little more unique, 6 speed vs 5, little bit better price, bigger fuel tank, built in italy vs thailand. Triumph has closer dealers but knock on wood, the guzzi has been perfect so far.
I do enjoy a slower bike, and I love a good retro, but not when they feel like they're made of depleted uranium. Maybe the Speed 400 is more my thing.
I don't know how it compares to the T120 but a lot of your comments apply to my former T120. I bought it with the intention of doing a bit of long distant touring. Doesn't work too well for that due to vibration, shuddering at low rpm and buzzy at higher. Went to the new Mandello more to my liking.
Spite! You NEED to ride the 1200 Speed Twin!
That bike will impress you. 😎💨🏍️
Bonnie's will certainly make the hipster in you happy. You'll be hard pressed to do better than the new Street Triple RS. You definitely won't complain about the brakes. 😁
Its just a cruise and chill bike. I like it. My #1 box that got checked is the weight, 451 or lets say 500 pounds wet, thats my must have, which is 500 pounds wet. This bike fits the bill. If u can, make video on 500 pound wet bike comparison please. But i never really cared or payed attention to this bike. But i feel if any bike i would buy, this is probably the one. Unless theres another 500 pound bike out there might change my mind. But i dont know of any. ✌️
Best bar end mirrors ever.
Kawasaki ZRX 1100/1200 rear shocks are a bolt on upgrade that really tightens up the chassis.
Bro.. you get as many views as yammy. Good stuff.
Had this bike. It was super smooth and sounded great, really pretty. The suspension was terrible.
It would be nice if it had some adjustability beyond preload. Stock it's a little squishy.
22 speed twin 1200 here. After switching to the bonneville I think I'm a lifelong triumph owner now...
The Thruxton 900 (I happen to have a '16 900) is best described i think as a motorcycle version of those small European roadsters of the '60s & '70s. They look great and are probably best for cruising around town or a slightly spirited ride on some country lanes. They're not outright sports machines. They're more like the MG Midget, Fiat 124, and Alfa Romeo Spyder; rather than a E Type Jaguar, 911, or a Ferrari.
Hey Spite,
How about trying to get your hands on the Triumph bobber? I'd love to hear fead back on the Bobber, as down the track, I might consider trading in my BMW 2016, S1000R, and invest in a Bobber?
Annie from Australia 🇦🇺 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺✌🏽👌🏽
Bonny’s are great bikes but the bug eye 1050 speed triple are the best triumphs. I believe that so much I bought 2 lol mostly cause I was having issues with the first one running 😂
Theres no denying they are goddang beautiful bikes.
The Thruxton featured is a very old aircooled version, which by no means can compare to any modern watercooled Bonnie. Bit of an unfair comparision, especially considering the Q&A part of the video.
2015 isn't very old.
OK...next compare/contrast to the Kawasaki W800. Some would say they did a better job than Triumph to bring a Bonneville like bike to us. I love the styling of both the W800 and the Thruxton 900
My first bike was a t100. Wish I never sold it.
In a similar vein, I owned the Thunderbird triple 900 single front disc, and the Thunderbird Sport triple 900 dual front disc. The single disc was inadequate, the dual disc was good. The former is gone, the latter will sell this Spring.This was specific to those two Triumphs as my Nighthawk 750 single disc front is a very good stopper. And yet my older Nighthawk 650 dual disc takes more effort on the brake lever than my single disc Nighthawk 750. Finally, I'll have to disagree with you as I think the standard Bonneville is every bit as sporty and yet has a more comfortable seating position.
LOL forgot the flannel..gotta complete 'the look' right? ha
Great bike for someone just getting into riding and want a more cruiserish kind of bike. But man the 1200 liquid cooled, 6th gear, and dual front disk brakes. About the exact same weight as the 900. Man the 1200's are just so much better
Yeah the 1200s are so nice. I'm dying to ride one, but this is like the sportster of England
@@spitescorner If you are ever in Michigan you are welcome to take mine out, but I imagine you could find one in Texas, not an uncommon bike
Spite, hope you're doing fine :
Tks. much.
There’s a lot of overlap between the T900 and the Royal Enfield Continental GT 650… style wise and performance wise…
BTW, Sportster v Thruxton… Thruxton all day/every day!
Why don't you try a 1960's 650cc Bonneville. Compare the handling, brakes, power, weight etc with its so called modern counterpart. Could make for some interesting viewing Spite.
Never understood people calling bonnevilles slow. Sure, they don't have crazy top speeds, but they've got tourque for days and they can be lightened and power can be increased. Acceleration is pretty gnarly in the mid range. 2nd through 4th gear. On a country 2 lane, I've no problem keeping up with my dad on his speed triple
I've got an 05 bonneville (790 cc) and with jetted carbs, better exhaust, and some weight stripped off of it, it'll keep up on 2 lane with sport bikes. And you can get them pretty low into corners as long as you aren't a coward
Hugely paraphrasing a comment I saw somewhere - modern classics feel like you're riding a contraption where other modern bikes feel more like a gizmo or a gadget.
Could it beat a KLR in a drag race???
Off the line, nothing beats the KLR. After 10 feet, everything beats the KLR
Ride an old air cooled 60s Daytona for a while, the 900"s brakes will feel much better. :p
Two more things. If you're going to tout the Triumphs as having massive overdrive fifth gears It would be a simple matter to state the indicated highway speed and the RPMs at that speed. Secondly if you're going to tout the bike as one That does best at 5/10ths so you can enjoy the scenery and the ride, then don't downrate it by trying to go 75 miles per hour and be disappointed that you don't have a lot of passing power in 5th gear at 75. As for me I like to take note of the RPM at an indicated 65 mph on every bike I test. You can get away with 65 on most any two-lane or four-lane highway and it's a consistent way to compare. The standard Thunderbird 900 was at almost 5000 RPM at an indicated 65 mph. Most of the bikes I've checked were closer to 4500 RPM.
I changed the sprockets on my Nighthawk 750 to be at just under 4000 RPM at 65 mph. So I'm curious as to what RPM the thruxton was spinning at 65 mph.
If you're doing 65 on a highway in Texas you'll get your doors blown off by a civic doing 90. Speed limits are more of guidelines than rules here.
@@spitescorner Understood. There was a time in my life where I travel to 18 different offices. One of which was in Dallas. I would fly into Love's Field and they would save a Lincoln Mark 8 or a Ford Thunderbird SC for me. So again, if you're recommending the thruxton as an "enjoy the ride / scenery" kind of bike and I wouldn't recommend a Texas area interstate highway. But I'm curious, what RPMs the thruxton was spinning at running an indicated 65 mph. Not that it's important now. Triumph is a "been there done that" proposition at this point.
BTW I was One of the guys that followed you to your new channel and unsubscribed from Yamie Noob. I'm not a hater, I just figured he had plenty of squids and a plenty big channel at the time.
They are cool. No way in hell I would swap my Tiger for one, but they are cool.
Spite, you sure that’s a 2018? From what I gather, the Thruxton engine gained 300cc in 2016 to give us the present 1200. 10:06
Yeah I got that wrong. I double checked the listing. It was a 2015
BTW, there was an overlap of a few years with the Thruxton & Scrambler 900 still available when the new liquid cooled Bonnevilles & Thruxton 1200 came out.
You've ridden it the street triple it is my personal babe
It's a great bike, but I'm not a big fan of the triple cyl motor. Not sure why, they just never gelled with me I guess.
@spitescorner breaking my heart, atleast you love Vtwins 🤝
Not enough whoa and go. But it's pretty. 🥺
How many Bonneville Hipsters does it take to change a tail light?
10 Hipsters
One person to change the bulb; the other nine to let you know that the vintage bulb was better.
experience mann
That's just a T100 with clip ones. Therefore, more limited and less useful. The current, soon to be deleted, Thruxton, in the UK at least, is the 1200, and makes over 100hp.
Isn’t the experience what it’s all about? Stirring the soul? I’d rather have something the looks and sounds good, performs adequately and makes me happy.
Nothing more boring than riding a bike that gives you the emotional experience of a Honda Civic.
Besides, how many people can really ride a performance bike to its limits?
Harley’s are hard under performers, Ducati’s are hard over performers. Triumph builds bikes that are right in the middle.
All three brands will stir your soul.
Speed twin 1200
A Speed Twin 1200 with better suspension is a Thruxton R with a more relaxed riding position. My wife loves her 20' Speed Twin.
The ORIGINAL Speed Twin was only 500cc, and a 360` crank. Still a very VERY popular bike though!
Looks like Keihin carbs to me and as far as I know the air/oil cooled 856 engines were not fuel injected.
This one is definitely Fuel injected. I checked with the dealership.
@@spitescorner 2009 was the first year Triumph added fuel injection on all parallel twins. 2008 and older are carbureted.
This over an XSR900??!
15:29
Ha
Hate to break it to you spite but you talk about motorcycles how a matthew mcconaughy wine taster would talk about wine and craft beer. You are indeed a hipster. You and yammie lol.
Thruxton 900 or Kawasaki Z900 Cafe?
Those are very different. The Z900 cafe is more like a chill MT09. The Thruxton is like a British 883.
@spitescorner ohh I realise how different they are just curious which you would rather own.
Wait a minute, the Rebel 1100 isn’t a cruiser but this is? Maybe these bikes are all ‘roadsters’?
They are best.
We are getting our beard wax on. We are getting our flannel on. We are putting a sweet potato in the front of our shorts!
Appreciate the bike for what it is. Don’t compare it to a Ducati monster.
I was thinking about a Bonneville a couple of years ago, and honestly the fake carburetors turned me off. It just feels like a bunch of hipster bullshit. I decided I'd rather get a RE INT650, it's not trying to pretend anything.
The fake carbs are a distraction. It's a marketing feint.
Hi Spite. Can't pass in overdrive? Downshift. Your's Truly, old man in flannel.
So why would you pick the Sportster over the Thruxton? Your response seemed like it was a "no-brainer" for you but you have no explanation.
I have a crippling need to wear leather and say "hell yeah brother."
Seriously though, I just like the sportster more. Something about the valvetrain noise and the look out of the cockpit just does it for me more than the triumph.
Close, but to me the new Street Triples are the best Triumphs 😛
The 2022 is better 😎
be good cheap cafe bike
I'd change that mirrors with rounded ones. they are ugly af
Spite... That bike isnt even in the same neighborhood as the xsr900. If someone is looking at one, i cant imagine them looking at the other. I think a better question to someone buying their first bike is a bonnie 900 vs the new 400
Edit: TBH I've never quite understood the point of an 883 sporty or a Bonnie 900. They are just sooooo underperforming, over weight, and over priced. Even as a new rider if that is the way folks are heading, get 1200 or the T120.
To me the ONLY reason to get an 883 is to do what you and lord Voldemort did and hop it up into a two wheeled widow maker.
The seat is wide and comfy on my butt. The seat is narrow and you can get your feet to the ground. WTF
They shaped it right. Supportive where you put your weight, narrow by the tank so you can reach the ground.
I don't like this motorcycle and I came to the comments to make everyone aware of it. You're welcome.
Thank you
Sounds like a log .
Kawasaki W800 is the best bonneville, change my mind.
Kawasaki w800 is a better triumph