"If the game matters to you, and you see your performance as a reflection of your own value...then of course you'll be unhappy if it's not going your way." Nail on the head right here. A truth we all need to understand and internalize if we care at all about maximizing our enjoyment of any kind of game, especially the competitive kind. Great stuff!
Is there any way to fix this? I agree wholeheartedly. I have issues with equating self-worth to performance, which causes me to get sad or angry while playing OW
I've honestly found a lot of this myself just by getting older ( _shudder_ ) and encountering other frustrating aspects of life. Learning to deal with tilt isn't just great for making you better at Overwatch, it also (in my medically-untrained opinion) will make you better at dealing with adversity in real life. So regardless of whether you're a Top 500 8-hour-a-day grinder or a Workshopper like me who avoids ranked like the plague, the lessons of this video are probably valuable ones regardless.
Mystery Heroes is a great way to train tilt. You will either lose your lid or find a way to overcome seemingly impossible/extremely difficult enemy comps.
This is how I found out I was good at Sigma. I went in mystery heroes one day and got him and never died and carried the match without having ever played him before. I’ve been maining him ever since 😊.
Mystery Heroes is my favorite ranked mode since I am good on every hero and can understand why my team sucks if they get bad picks. Too bad it's a clown mode because normal Ranked instantly tilts me if I see someone play bad.
This is why I love maining Zen. Every time you respawn he has a piece of advice or wisdom. It honestly does help sometimes bring me back to Earth during a frustrating game.
This anti-tilting advice rules. It's something I've been trying to work on for a while now. I'm more of a Valorant player, so I tilt easily, so anything to keep calm rules. I wish the vid went a bit more into "so you're tilted. What now?" I've honestly had a lot of luck with just immediately recognizing it and in comms saying "sorry ya'll, I'm tilted" when I fumble something out of anger. It helps keep the tilt from spreading because now my team know why I suddenly started sucking, and doesnt let me ignore my own culpability in the situation. I'm able to go off mic, breathe deep, and only make callouts until I'm calm again. It's let me be really proud of games where I bottom fragged, because despite a few of us tilting in the middle, we were able to identify the problem and change our tactics without having to flame each other.
My final time getting physical about getting tilted was in when a 14, hit a controller, heard my dad say "what was that" and that embarrassment made me realize getting mad at all was childish. It's definitely a worldly skill, not just a game-wise one. I've seen plenty of people give up because something was hard or make their situation worse by lashing out.
My conspiracy theory is that the match making algorithm tests your mental skills as well as your mechanical: as you move up the ladder you are placed into lobbies more likely to tilt you. Great video & great advice. I swapped from Mercy one tricking to Zen one tricking & definitely feel like taking a more active role in the game has helped me more in control and less likely to tilt
I was wondering if anyone would notice that! I didn't even realize that it'd saved me from a sonic arrow until I was editing the gameplay, that Hanzo had some truly horrendous luck in that match lol
(sips tea) you are entirely correct and reframing emotional control as a category of game skills is a useful perspective! however the main takeaway i got from this video is that calling a teammate's tilt a "skill issue" while maintaining a cool(er) head is going to be the nuclear warhead of team chat psychological warfare. 😆 i'm filing this thought for later, not for use but to get a giggle out of thinking it the next time chat is in flames, bc that's my tilt weakspot. most everything else, i can "c'est le jeu" away, but shit talk gets the blood PUMPIN'.
I did not come here to be called out like that. I also did not come here to be advised to journal. And I absolutely did not come here to be inspired to pick up OW again in order to maybe practice emotional resilience in a low-stakes environment. Great video!
In OW1 I felt like I would sometimes spend more time arguing with people that playing the game. So when that habbit returned in OW2, I started playing without Voice and Text enabled. This helped me focus on my own gameplay and thats when I realized that I can only control how I play and what I do. I found myself enjoying the game a lot more. It felt like I was finally playing just for myself. I've recently returned to Voice Chat but I'm a lot calmer now and if someone else starts arguing I just leave. So yeah, I totally agree that Tilting is a skill issue.
im glad this is a discussion, i hope tilting as a skill becomes more known about like how things flats says trickles into your games because i feel like it might actually help with lessening player toxicity
"The attitude is the difference between a Master and a Top500 Player" (Flats, one of the best Tank Player in the World) I hope I repeated the quote correctly word by word, but the content is what matters.
100%. The sentiment is something he's talked about a ton in a lot of different contexts, and it's really important. At the end of the day, raw skill isn't enough to get you to the top of a team game - you have to be able to work well with others and have a good attitude.
I started to understand that having a good mindset or psychological skills played a big role in how well I play when I was on the apex grind because tilting or lack of confidence can ruin so many games and anxiety which I have only recently just started to see how much worse it makes me play because I tried to play some ranked in ow and I was in shambles mentally with anxiety I didn't have in quickplay
Coping well is like aiming fast - you have to consciously point your intent at the right thing, and then trust your unconscious mind to get on with it. It doesn't always work out, but it gets more consistent with practice.
This is a honestly pretty nuanced take onto tilt. I always thought that tilt is really just the result of me just sucking at the game and that I'm just not made to do well. Like In video games (and real life), I get frustrated when I struggle with something and then there are these other people who do better than me and they do basically no effort (so they claim) which just makes things worse for me. Eventually I just give up and quit the game
@@godlyvex5543 I get that it's unhealthy. But when I do poorly despite playing for a while, and then I see some guy who's cracked, barely plays the game, and then he says shit like "I'm not even trying", it just makes me think "damn, maybe I am made to be shit at the game despite all the time I spent". It's really frustrating
Biiig virtual hug to you cause I've been there and it freaking sucks. You aren't meant to be good at everything and that's totally fine! If you want to be good at something you have to struggle. The players who are cracked and barely play the game will struggle in this game when they face people who have been playing for way longer. One tip is stop watching these people that say that they're not trying. There are way better people to watch than some bozo that's been married to their aim trainer for years. Definitely take breaks and feel your emotions! It's better to have a clear mindset and play then tiltqueuing.
Exactly this. I play with the premise of escaping "real life diff" but even in games, I notice my diff 😅 and the sad thing is that I am actually trying unlike the other person 🤣
i only play comp so whenever i can, i will make someone from the enemy team tilt (not through abusive means, only gameplay) if they lose the fight mentally, they almost always lose the game this is where it really shows as a skill
I have tried to maintain this dogmatic view of "the only deciding factor to your skill/rank is yourself". One of the bigger reasons people get tilted in this game is because when they lose games it affects their ranked score. The rank they get is what represents their skill, and they want it to be as high as possible. You rarely see tilted people in quickplay, because in quickplay there are no stakes, you don't lose a rank from "bad teammates" and it is a more relaxed experience. In ranked, the matches have more perceived importance. If you are good and skilled at the game, you WILL climb in ranked. It is inevitable, it is statistically impossible to get shitty teammates in every single game you've ever played and for them to be the only factor determining your rank. Can you get bad teammates? Yes, and that's tough luck when that happens. Getting mad about it is a pointless endeavor, because you won't get the same teammates next game. Every game is people with different skill levels. You are at a natural advantage in every ranked game, because the only deciding factor to any game is YOURSELF since you are the only person with definitive knowledge on your own skill at the game. There are only FOUR other teammates that could have random skill, and FIVE randomly skilled people on the enemy team. Your odds at climbing to a rank that is accurate to your true skill level is in your favor, even more if you have friends that you can play with, ensuring even more consistency (assuming your friends are at least as skilled as you of course). When I think about Overwatch this way, it makes me examine myself more than getting tilted at my team. Thinking about what I could have done better after every game for next time instead of getting mad at other players helps me a lot. It also helps me ignore when my teammates are mad at me because they think I am doing shit, I won't see them in the next game so their opinion doesn't matter and should not faze me. Their input is often misguided, based on what they THINK my skill level is. I know my skill level, and I know what my capabilities are. If those capabilities happen to be not to up to the task necessary for this specific match, then that's ok. Next match will have different players with different skill levels, with decidedly different results.
Controlling my emotions and being a stoic individual has helped me a lot throughout many aspects of my life and playing overwatch, constantly trying to improve at it little by little. Especially since Ive been a sombra main since 2016 and am used to getting yelled at a lot by tilted teammates who can’t control themselves and don’t assess themselves. There’s no reason to be upset over things you cannot control therefore I accept it and work on what I can control. it is what it is, whatever happens, happens.
I feel like a lot of my tilt comes less from my teammates performance and more from my own. I'll admit, I'm a massive perfectionist so any death sets me off. Usually, I get angry at the person who killed me. But that quickly translates to: "Why did I do that? I should be better than to make a mistake like that. I'm so trash at this game that it never feels like I'll improve." Getting tilted is one of my major faults in the game, and it's usually due to a sense of futility in the situation. "This game is so stacked, nothing I'm doing is making a difference, etc." "It is what it is" might not be the best mantra for me since I'll just take it as "Oh, so we're gonna pretend it doesn't bother me?" Maybe a mantra like "Getting tilted will only make it worse." That way it's an acknowledgment that yes, this pisses me off. But the solution isn't to get super angry.
Man. I honestly, definitely needed to hear this. In therapy, we call these skills "coping strategies." Not sure why I never made this connection, but thank you.
I used to play R6 siege religiously when it released for multiple years. I was above average for mechanical skill, but for game sense I feel I was one of the best (in matchmaking anyway) but I never had a team to capitalize that fact with. So I tilted, a lot. Especially as more and more players stopped talking to randoms in ranked. In the years since, I've also just grown to dislike playing competitive games because I feel like the losing matches are against walls of insurmountable challenge. And it was very random as to if it was a winnable match or not. In the meantime, I have been playing Destiny 2, doing raids and dungeons, cooperating with players against ai. And that feels great. Way more players actually talk and communicate because they actually want to succeed and they know that you can't without talking. While in competitive games many players assume their lone skill will carry the team to victory. Even I used to think that. I may some day go back to competitive games, now that I've grown older I've been able to sort out my thoughts more and reflect. You say it's easier to fix the issue than identify it, however I always found I knew why I was tilting, but never could keep the emotions from impacting me. Also at around 12:40, I believe the actual number would be 80% of games you used to tilt you don't anymore, not 40%. Because every other game is 1/2 or 5/10, while the other option was 1/10, so while it is 4/10 more times you aren't tilting, that is 4/5 times you were previously tilting that you now aren't, or 80% Love your OW analysis videos, even if I have never liked to play OW myself
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And I think you're right about the 80% vs 40% thing, an earlier version of the script had phrased it in a way where 40% had been the right number but came across too complicated, so I ad libbed the line while I was recording to try to make it more simple and accidentally oversimplified myself right into being wrong lol
Not putting this in an edit cause maybe a new reply will bump this up a bit, but as it turns out my voice chat volume for other people has been at 0% for the past 3 or 4 years in siege. I have no idea why it was set to that, but maybe fixing that will help get me back into it
I’d say there’s a lot to be said about being able to resist tilting. I think people who do easily lose their minds do so because they’re more or less safe. It’s a game, you’re behind a screen and a made up name. The chances of the guy you’re screaming at figuring out where you live and punching your teeth in are rather low. But what does tilting accomplish? Does it actually make the tilt-er feel better, or does it more likely just act as a catalyst to the entire situation spiraling out of control until everyone is screaming?
Before role queue, I think I gained something like 1-200 SR by being one brand of untiltable: if I picked support or tank, I would stay in that role no matter what (we'll, except if I genuinely truly believed that a specific dps could overcome a very specific problem our team had, and then I switched back once it was solved....we're talking like 1/100 games at most). I won a LOT of games just by being that rare kind of OW1 player who never rage-picked dps. I stopped playing OW1 soon after role queue (unrelated) but I often wonder if my SR would have taken a hit long term because role queue removed the simplest way to not tilt, which was a benefit to that small number of players like me who didn't tilt like that. There's a lot of subconsious and hard-ro-control aspects behind tilt, but before rope queue the simplest and most important tilt-skill test was just this: will you keep playing the "unfun" roles even while the game is going poorly?
Just wanted to say that I recently found your channel, and NGL, your Overwatch 2 videos have been helping me to change my mindset about Overwatch, and I've been playing for 6+ years, and yeah, they are helping!! Keep up the good work!!
So I'm very new to comp shooters in general and ow2 is the first I've played consistently, and I think this is really true! My ability to not get tilted I think is why I've improved so much in the past couple of months. I'm still not good, but my goal was to hold my own when my friends were playing and not feel like a burden, as a result I accidently ranked higher than my friend whose one of the best players in the group but more prone to raging and quitting when they lose. (We all play quickplay, I just did comp to try and improve and everyone followed suit.) They're still much better than I am but idk, I'm 27, I can't for the life of me get mad at an online game or rage at team mates, I get more enjoyment outta complimenting the enemy team than trolling them.
Inused to tilt in clash royale. Only when I improved to where I was super confident in my skill and rank, I stopped caring about outcomes because i knew what i deserved. I think I tilt in overwatch because I am never confident in my rank/skill. I’m not confident I’ll rank back up if I lose
A good tip I have found for dealing with reducing tilt to manageable levels, breath in deeply with your belly muscles, and as you are breathing out equally slowly slump your shoulder. You don't normally notice it, but when you experience frustration and anger your shoulders hike up and your breathing gets shallow. Taking the time to breath deeply and loosen your shoulders gives you body the physical signal to clam down. Your body and mind are linked quite hard in most cases. a lot of the time making you body mimic the physical mannerism of a state will cause your mind to start to slip into that state. That includes a state of calm.
You videos are all so great. I haven't even really been playing overwatch 2 recently because of the poor matchmaking and lack of feedback from the ranked system/ overall game, but I still love your vids.
There’s this lyric from an AJJ song that is apt here: “Hey dude I hate everything you do but I’m trying really hard to not hate you cause hating you won’t make you suck any less.”
I've noticed those in higher ranks having seemingly higher emotional intelligence amongst other skills. Maybe that's due to fewer toxic encounters overall, but even under pressure and losing they keep their cool. xQc might be an exception there though.
"it is what it is" - i watched a lot of Jayne when I played overwatch 1, and I've carried his similar "that's unfortunate" mantra into every game and my daily life
In my opinion, the second you stop having fun, just stop playing. Games are not a job, you are not getting paid to play them, you are not developing a useful skill, it is leisure time. If you aren't feeling good during your leisure time, you should spend your leisure time doing something else
Honestly the only time I 'tilt' is when someone else tilts at me and I don't really get angry I just get hyper conscious questioning whether or not I am doing the right thing for the rest of the match but I do make more mistakes when I'm like that
good video, that mantra "it is what it is" has been a mantra of mine when I stream and play overwatch and other competitive games. What matters most is how you proceed after a mistake
Something that was not mentioned is that you inevitably will get tilted sometimes no matter how good you are at resisting it. Furing those moments it's best to just get off rsather thsn letting your tilt move to the next game.
9:10 -- most of the times i die and watch the kill, i feel like i could have avoided it or done better. it doesnt make me upset every time, but at least i can see where i need to improve.
Hi idk if you remember but i spilled soda on my keyboard watching one of your videos...it almost happened again, but ill still watch your videos even if they give me bad luck with beverages
I'm glad you showed up on my youtube, I do like your videos a lot but a week ago when i watched a couple i saw a lot of 10 min overwatch clips what happened to those i was gonna watch them 🤔🤔
Oh yeah, I had a bunch of gameplay videos up but after the scripted stuff started doing well I decided to just focus on that and took the other ones down. They weren't anything special or anything haha
For some reason I have to turn up the volume to hear your voice clearly but it makes everything else on my computer loud... is there a way to make it clearer?
This week was a bit of a rough one for recording, my bad. There was some heavy pollution in the area and coupled with some other health issues I just wasn’t at my best - I’m working on it for the future though, and hopefully it won’t be an issue in the next one!
Love this style of video, super useful ! :) I have found a lil notebook I'm going to use to try this out now (although tbh I currently am playing rocket league instead but who cares, tilt can happen in every competitive game haha). I will say this for anyone who gets tilted by allies screwing up (we all have at some point) : You can always play with premade teams. It can be more fun and a lot easier to accept them making mistakes. That said, it's personnal; I have played with a few players who would tilt at me on discord when we were playing (needless to say, never played with any of them ever again). Where to find? Discord and in your lobbies are probably the best bet for every comp game out there. Liked your teamates attitude or their playstyle, send them a message/friend invite ! Check out official discords, they are the most active server. If like me, you finding a lot of mates tilting at you in voice chat in official discords, check out the discord of the content creators you like; even if barely watch them (Often smaller and closer communities, ready to help each other and spend some good time). Or also, some games have parternship with other smaller discord, for teams or whatever. Can be a good place to try aswell.
I'm not necessarily an easy person to tilt in the understanding that I'd get angry and even when I am angry it takes a very special kind of person to push that I'll express it Instead I tend to just get demoralised and want the game to be over with When I stopped playing overwatch 1 comp I ended at around high gold and I could if paired with friends consistently climb into plat although not for long Come overwatch 2 I suddenly found myself in my QuickPlay games getting placed with people of higher ranks, high plats and even diamonds in some cases, now I know quick play and comp are two different modes but the fact that I was doing well encouraged me to retry comp I went back into comp and got placed into silver at the very beginning, quickly solo rised to high gold in season 1 but didn't have the energy to hit plat before the season ended During season 2 I basically waited until I was confident enough in my orisa play that I could counter hog and doom before playing comp, I then proceeded to go from starting at silver 4 to plat 5 in a mere 21 games However I'm now in plat finding myself challenged more then I have ever been before in comp play and it's demoralising me hard Definitely going to practice the tips you have suggested in hopes of being able to improve and continue my climb Thanks for this amazing video
Thank you, and I hope it’s helpful for you! I definitely know the feeling, it can be really hard when you’re doing really well in comp and ranking up quickly only to suddenly hit a bit of a wall once you’re at a rank that more suits your skill level. I hope the season keeps going well for you as well!
@@TheViveros yeah it especially doesn't feel good with the current rank system I frequently ask for everyone's ranks at the beginning of games just to be told the vast majority of the lobby is plat 3-1 with me frequently being the lowest (plat 5) Just feels like I need to put in that extra effort to even have a similar rank to the level I'm playing at Eitherway I am going to try to improve and climb
I totally agree with your points. I do think Overwatch's broken competitive system is another important factor to mention. It's one thing to forgive your teammates' poor performance, but when the current system inherently creates an unfair environment--a majority of games are often one-sided--then it becomes that much harder. When you lose multiple games in a row, not only do you become more frustrated, there's a psychological need to want to "make up" for those bad games. The fact that Overwatch doesn't even reveal your "true" rank is like a nail in the proverbial coffin. It's as if Blizzard wants their playerbase to remain unhappy just to maintain player retention. I've played other shooters, and Overwatch by far is one of the worst when it comes to tilting. Which is sad because it really is a good game at it's core.
I definitely think that Blizzard’s refusal to make information more clear is a problem, but at the end of the day, you only have control over so much, and it’s important to recognize that even within a flawed system you still have control over how you choose to respond to it. I do also think that a lot more of it is mind games than people realize - like, if you go into every game with the assumption that it will be a one-sided game, that it will be unfair, and that you have very little control over the outcome because it’s being so heavily influenced by factors outside of your control, then I think you’re already setting yourself up to see those things and be disappointed. I know for myself, when a bad game does happen (bc they definitely do) it helps a lot to consciously choose to frame it as “Sometimes shit happens and we’ve all just gotta move on” and act like it’s an isolated incident. When I let it get to me, it manifests forward in future matches, and the reverse is true as well. The frustration around the ranking system is very valid, though; I think it not only makes people feel shitty, but it gives people such a skewed sense of their own abilities and level of play that it becomes impossible to take any meaningful feedback from it.
@@TheViveros I feel you. With the state Overwatch is in now, I feel the best way to enjoy the game is with a group of friends who have the same mindset as you. Solo-queuing, you're essentially leaving it up to luck whether you get teammates who're able to control their emotions. More often than not, they can't. Sadly. Only way to deal with that is to mute them and focus on your own performance. I've heard Blizzard plans to address the ranking issues in the upcoming season. I'm remaining cautiously optimistic.
Being a super high level player in an entirely different game, Omega strikers- Tilt especially in tournament play is a game killer I stg. It's an entirely different skill maintaining other peoples mental health when the voice call goes silent or someone is being self deprecating because bagging on yourself is also a form of tilt. A more sad version of it but tilt nonetheless. People do really appreciate it when you try to be the field therapist or the rally chief but holy FUCK it's draining as all hell while you're trying to maintain your level of play. Only time I get severely tilted is in tournament play where I'm consistently thrusted into field therapist/rally cheif position. Trying to pick up other peoples mental is its own skill. I'M at that point of tilt management where now I gotta learn how to pick up other peoples mental health MID MATCH. It's much easier to combat tilt when you understand where a person including yourself is coming from and what they're thinking ESPECIALLY if they tell you before a game where you know you're gonna have to play your role and field therapist.
I realized how much tilted players seem to go down in matches, and as evil as this sounds, I use this on the enemy team If I'm playing an especially low skill hero like Moira and get a lucky kill, just a little taunt like "Get off the stage", and that player, if they're not good at controlling their anger, will literally throw the game just so they can prove to me they're better... but, it works out for me 🤷🏽♂️
I sent this video to my friend because he gets tilted. He says he doesn't, but he does. He calls it 'I'm irritated'. But he spends the whole match being like 'nerf this, nerf that. Why is this character in game' blah blah blah.
I was blessed at birth with an inability to be angry at video games in literally any sense, but my God do I get some deep, nigh-on sexual enjoyment out of pushing people who *do* get tilted. My preferred method is killing 'em with kindness, toxic tilters absolutely HATE when people aren't mirroring their own toxicity, and it's not like I'm going to get banned for abusive chat when I say "You're doing so good!!! Keep it up! :D". At the end of the day, Overwatch 2 is a free-to-play game about cartoon porn characters being randomly buffed and nerfed by a developer who just does whatever they think will make the most money, there's really no reason to take it so seriously.
This is incredible advice and a great analysis of tilt. From my experience, there is no tilt purger like giving up. I don't mean mid game stop trying. I mean I literally quit OW1 because of ceaseless tilt. I was so upset with my aim, I tried everything, I had 400 hours in the game, and still couldn't hit most shots. So I called it, never felt more liberated in Overwatch in my life.
Tilt and Toxicity feels like two sides of the same coin. I play a lot of Hunt Showdown, I am very hard on myself and when I am having a bad few games I tend to get inwardly negative. I look at what I did wrong and when I get to the point where I know I am playing worse because of my own negativity, I take a step back. As opposed to a lot of the toxic players making everyone on their team tilt and play worse by simply flaming everyone and not taking a moment to think of what they are doing or could be doing better. I am an old man at this point. I have very little patience for toxicity. If someone is tilting out and are outwardly negative to their teammates, I mute them. I mute myself when I start to tilt and I try my best to focus on what I am doing or what is causing me to tilt while also not projecting that onto my team. But as a Hunt player we have a little motto.... Hunt Giveth and Hunt Taketh away. You are not going to win everything. You are going to die and be set back, that is the game. After 1400 hours in Hunt, playing other games where I get to respawn and run it back in the same lobby, it quickly becomes experimentation time on what I need to improve on. Also your "It is what it is" point is so incredibly crucial. I have a friend that plays games with me who is pretty much tilt proof from my experiences with them. He has a very "It's all good" attitude and it is refreshing playing with him. I have done lots of randoms and the teams mentality is so incredibly important to me as a person. I can spend 6 hours getting destroyed in Hunt with him and not get tilted. Because we acknowledge when we played well and when we were in almost unwinnable positions. But we give one another small critiques that we both are very receptive to. But it is also about how they are delivered. The difference between "That was a tough situation, Maybe it would have been better to try and disengage or find a better angle." as opposed to "What a moron, why would you take that fight."
The place where I’m stuck in this is that I know it’s stupid to tilt… I know I look like a ridiculous man baby when I tilt, I know it affects my performance, i know playing is half mindset and confident people do way better, i know if I just control that my performance does ten times better, I know I need to work on it and actively work on breathing and staying objective… I’ll do literal outer body experiences where I try to see the game from above so I disconnect myself from how I feel about my performance but i just do sometimes. Yes I know it’s a skill issue and I know I need to work on it. Just gets to a point where I feel I’ll never get better( which I know also makes it worse) but I am just not a confident person like that. I have decent game sense but my aim is ass and it feels like after years of playing fps (I’m still relatively new to them I started 4 years ago) it’s still not much better. I’ll see a play I can make and try to but i miss shots so I lose fights I should have won cause I had the initial advantage. My anger is rarely with the team mostly with myself. I have to keep practicing I know 😞
i have some level of inferiority complex when it comes to being bad at games (be it because i couldnt play much growing up or my own lack of situational awareness in games). i Also have avoided any type of online coop with strangers in games, because im scared of being yelled at (especially for being afab). i was convinced i Didnt tilt-im not a skilled player and im a newbie at overwatch, everything is frustrating-but i guess thats the point. i hope you know this video doesnt apply just to people playing competitive, its helped people whose first fps is overwatch as well
So how do I not get tilted when a Plat Widow 1V5s my Silver Team as I play Junkrat to deal with the other 4 Silver enemies and Tank refuses to get off Junker Queen and Supports keep peeking?
Really great insight on tilt. I do my best to stay level headed in the games i play. I know what its like to tilt beyond all reason, and at this point im more concerned with just having fun in my games than anything else and tilting is a direct enemy to fun. I've played a lot of Destiny 2 pvp and that game's PvP is guaranteed to piss you off until you just cant be bothered to care anymore so I like to think that game has made it easier for me to resist tilt in other games. In OW the only things that genuinely frustrate me are just not being able to really play (getting shut down the instant i get back from spawn) and pharah. Not even Pharah players no just the character. I think shes a low skill piece of shit that gets too much value out of simply existing. Virtually infinite flight if you arent stupid, high damage on contact rockets, and position disruption. I hate being knocked around, my otherwise fine aim being thrown off by some idiot that doesnt even need to aim. Not even junkrat is that annoying. I channel my rage toward pharah into training my hitscan aim with McCree. I will play him in Deathmatch until my aim is good enough to make pharah players rage quit. Gods help you if you play pharah against not only me but also my friends who hate her just as much as i do.
I think the meme where people say "skill issue" and nothing else is terrible. Genuinely just annoying. The people who use it like this seem to have no room in their head for nuance, all they can seem to say is what amounts to "you're bad". It also commonly seems to be in response to criticism of a game, and people use it to shut down arguments without having to actually argue anything. I wouldn't be surprised if some joker replied to this comment saying "skill issue", because it seems like just the type of thing these people would do. This isn't really directed towards the video or it's use of skill issue, just a general complaint about the phrase.
this video gave me genuine hope doe me in those aspects. I remember times when i didn't care what others thought of me when i played, and that i was actually having fun, before i gave comp a try. I found my own self worth in the rank i had. (which looking back is kinda dumb, but the past is the past i guess) and even today, with me not playing comp at all since season 26-7 climbing to diamond, i still struggle with not tieing my self worth to how i perform in game. Now im trying my best to learn how to have fun in Overwatch again, and your video and its advice might help me when i do play, even if i know most of the reasons why i get tilted in the first place.
Great insight! I always found myself tilting at my team most of all, hyperfocusing on them just makes me annoyed. It's good to know that just focusing on myself isn't all I could be doing, but staying in control of my emotions could really help.
8:52 OMG do you know my entire mental health play book, I've always say that the first step in tempering your emotions is to notice them, I've always have been a self reflection person even at a young age, when i would get mad or sad ext, i would just set in one place for hours, what would look like me just staring into space doing nothing, i was actually meticulously mulling over the moment that made me mad or sad ext, breaking it down what happened what could have happened until that moment doesn't bother me as much or at all.
I've been TRYING to find people who understand how to logically improve gameplay, and this shit is soooooo much what I've been searching for. exactly the type of shit I need to work with. MORE PLS
Totally agree. Ive tried to explain this to some of my friends who do get angry at games a lot before, but they instantly say that its not something they can change about themselves. That getting angry at games is just a part of them even if they know its a bad thing. So yea... they just dont even try...
People getting mad in chat are so annoying. I get so many people get mad at me Bc I play Brig, but never tell me what I’m actually doing wrong. I went from bronze to plat 3 this season with Brig. I had to learn a lot to get that far, she’s not a easy hero to play in comp. like you’re gonna lose a lot in this game, the matchmaking is just stupid. When your mad at one ur teammates keep it to yourself.
Position in overwatch is different from games I main like csgo. In csgo, if your in a common position you die. If overwatch you don't need to know every map but understand your surrounding like if there is a narrow passage or there is high ground you understand that you need to protect that because of the advantage it provides.
Nah, I've never tilted but every time I spend any significant amount of time playing this game I have to smdh cuz this games community has some of the worst attitudes in gaming. Hands down.
just discovered your channel! every video i’ve watched thus far has been great and contained a useful insight. This video is the most understandable dissertation of tilting in gaming that i’ve seen, I love it
I agree with you on almost everything except the very end the main problem and my me and my Friends stopped playing rank in ow2 is rank is definitely messed up for example at the start of the season me and my buddys are around mid to low plat and we would get games that we stomped like the enemy team could do nothing and we would looks at profile and see silver and some times bronze players but in the reverse we would get games that would have 4 people with topp 500 titles and they would push are shit in. But over all I agree its a skill issue and the funny thing is how my group deals with it is we lean in to the anger and for some reson it makes us on avrage play better that might be due to all of us doing combat sports and learn to Chanel are anger in productive was but we will rage at be mad at one another are we always seem to do noticeable better just a weird think I notice in my group. Would love a video on your thought on soft and hard counter and if they are good for a game.
This is just good advice for managing your emotions in general. I use techniques you mentioned (with the help of a therapist) all the time to manage intrusive thoughts.
I agree however when I just played the most unwinnable game with a pocketed soujourn the whole time and then I load into another game and one of my friends gets hit with applying update then gets banned I can’t not be tilted
"If the game matters to you, and you see your performance as a reflection of your own value...then of course you'll be unhappy if it's not going your way."
Nail on the head right here. A truth we all need to understand and internalize if we care at all about maximizing our enjoyment of any kind of game, especially the competitive kind. Great stuff!
Is there any way to fix this? I agree wholeheartedly. I have issues with equating self-worth to performance, which causes me to get sad or angry while playing OW
I've honestly found a lot of this myself just by getting older ( _shudder_ ) and encountering other frustrating aspects of life. Learning to deal with tilt isn't just great for making you better at Overwatch, it also (in my medically-untrained opinion) will make you better at dealing with adversity in real life. So regardless of whether you're a Top 500 8-hour-a-day grinder or a Workshopper like me who avoids ranked like the plague, the lessons of this video are probably valuable ones regardless.
Well said
I love you puppy
That avoid ranked like the plague line hit different for me bro
hell yeah!!
also hi cac wasnt expecting to see you here for some reason but given the kinda content this great channels makes I shouldve lmao-
Mystery Heroes is a great way to train tilt. You will either lose your lid or find a way to overcome seemingly impossible/extremely difficult enemy comps.
or you get double torb and melt everyone with over 100 turret dps
This is how I found out I was good at Sigma. I went in mystery heroes one day and got him and never died and carried the match without having ever played him before. I’ve been maining him ever since 😊.
It also forces you to get better at heroes you normally don't play. To this day Mystery Heroes is still my most played game mode.
Mystery Heroes is my favorite ranked mode since I am good on every hero and can understand why my team sucks if they get bad picks. Too bad it's a clown mode because normal Ranked instantly tilts me if I see someone play bad.
This is why I love maining Zen. Every time you respawn he has a piece of advice or wisdom. It honestly does help sometimes bring me back to Earth during a frustrating game.
This anti-tilting advice rules. It's something I've been trying to work on for a while now. I'm more of a Valorant player, so I tilt easily, so anything to keep calm rules.
I wish the vid went a bit more into "so you're tilted. What now?" I've honestly had a lot of luck with just immediately recognizing it and in comms saying "sorry ya'll, I'm tilted" when I fumble something out of anger. It helps keep the tilt from spreading because now my team know why I suddenly started sucking, and doesnt let me ignore my own culpability in the situation. I'm able to go off mic, breathe deep, and only make callouts until I'm calm again.
It's let me be really proud of games where I bottom fragged, because despite a few of us tilting in the middle, we were able to identify the problem and change our tactics without having to flame each other.
My final time getting physical about getting tilted was in when a 14, hit a controller, heard my dad say "what was that" and that embarrassment made me realize getting mad at all was childish. It's definitely a worldly skill, not just a game-wise one. I've seen plenty of people give up because something was hard or make their situation worse by lashing out.
i thought i escaped DBT therapy but it never truly ends
So glad there’s an Overwatch channel that isn’t just reading patch notes or news articles ❤
My conspiracy theory is that the match making algorithm tests your mental skills as well as your mechanical: as you move up the ladder you are placed into lobbies more likely to tilt you. Great video & great advice. I swapped from Mercy one tricking to Zen one tricking & definitely feel like taking a more active role in the game has helped me more in control and less likely to tilt
At 11:29 she blocked the hanzo shot with a turret 😂
I was wondering if anyone would notice that! I didn't even realize that it'd saved me from a sonic arrow until I was editing the gameplay, that Hanzo had some truly horrendous luck in that match lol
It's the most satisfying thing in Symm lol. The turret spawns head level so you just completely deny them cause they hit their headshot 😂
That's some one in a million crap right there
u can abuse that against every doomfist punch btw
but keep it low low i dont want nerfs heading my way
@@kyo_. Oh God what that sounds so dumb LOL No worries hush hush 🙊
(sips tea) you are entirely correct and reframing emotional control as a category of game skills is a useful perspective! however the main takeaway i got from this video is that calling a teammate's tilt a "skill issue" while maintaining a cool(er) head is going to be the nuclear warhead of team chat psychological warfare. 😆 i'm filing this thought for later, not for use but to get a giggle out of thinking it the next time chat is in flames, bc that's my tilt weakspot. most everything else, i can "c'est le jeu" away, but shit talk gets the blood PUMPIN'.
I did not come here to be called out like that.
I also did not come here to be advised to journal.
And I absolutely did not come here to be inspired to pick up OW again in order to maybe practice emotional resilience in a low-stakes environment.
Great video!
In OW1 I felt like I would sometimes spend more time arguing with people that playing the game. So when that habbit returned in OW2, I started playing without Voice and Text enabled.
This helped me focus on my own gameplay and thats when I realized that I can only control how I play and what I do. I found myself enjoying the game a lot more. It felt like I was finally playing just for myself.
I've recently returned to Voice Chat but I'm a lot calmer now and if someone else starts arguing I just leave.
So yeah, I totally agree that Tilting is a skill issue.
I honestly really like the idea of this, needed the advice to combat the tilting recently haha
im glad this is a discussion, i hope tilting as a skill becomes more known about like how things flats says trickles into your games because i feel like it might actually help with lessening player toxicity
"The attitude is the difference between a Master and a Top500 Player" (Flats, one of the best Tank Player in the World)
I hope I repeated the quote correctly word by word, but the content is what matters.
100%. The sentiment is something he's talked about a ton in a lot of different contexts, and it's really important. At the end of the day, raw skill isn't enough to get you to the top of a team game - you have to be able to work well with others and have a good attitude.
I started to understand that having a good mindset or psychological skills played a big role in how well I play when I was on the apex grind because tilting or lack of confidence can ruin so many games
and anxiety which I have only recently just started to see how much worse it makes me play because I tried to play some ranked in ow and I was in shambles mentally with anxiety I didn't have in quickplay
You know the Title is true when it Tilts you
Coping well is like aiming fast - you have to consciously point your intent at the right thing, and then trust your unconscious mind to get on with it. It doesn't always work out, but it gets more consistent with practice.
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This is a honestly pretty nuanced take onto tilt. I always thought that tilt is really just the result of me just sucking at the game and that I'm just not made to do well. Like In video games (and real life), I get frustrated when I struggle with something and then there are these other people who do better than me and they do basically no effort (so they claim) which just makes things worse for me. Eventually I just give up and quit the game
I think the thought of "I'm not made to do well" is unhealthy. You don't need to be made to do well.
@@godlyvex5543 I get that it's unhealthy. But when I do poorly despite playing for a while, and then I see some guy who's cracked, barely plays the game, and then he says shit like "I'm not even trying", it just makes me think "damn, maybe I am made to be shit at the game despite all the time I spent". It's really frustrating
@@toony9986 i feel this way too sometimes. Like I’m just meant to be bad.
Biiig virtual hug to you cause I've been there and it freaking sucks. You aren't meant to be good at everything and that's totally fine! If you want to be good at something you have to struggle. The players who are cracked and barely play the game will struggle in this game when they face people who have been playing for way longer. One tip is stop watching these people that say that they're not trying. There are way better people to watch than some bozo that's been married to their aim trainer for years. Definitely take breaks and feel your emotions! It's better to have a clear mindset and play then tiltqueuing.
Exactly this. I play with the premise of escaping "real life diff" but even in games, I notice my diff 😅
and the sad thing is that I am actually trying unlike the other person 🤣
It’s really enjoyable to see the enemy team get tilted.
Remember that the next time you feel that way, the other team is probably enjoying it.
i only play comp so whenever i can, i will make someone from the enemy team tilt (not through abusive means, only gameplay) if they lose the fight mentally, they almost always lose the game this is where it really shows as a skill
Getting therapy to do better at overwatch: $2000
"It is what it is": $0
I have tried to maintain this dogmatic view of "the only deciding factor to your skill/rank is yourself". One of the bigger reasons people get tilted in this game is because when they lose games it affects their ranked score. The rank they get is what represents their skill, and they want it to be as high as possible. You rarely see tilted people in quickplay, because in quickplay there are no stakes, you don't lose a rank from "bad teammates" and it is a more relaxed experience. In ranked, the matches have more perceived importance. If you are good and skilled at the game, you WILL climb in ranked. It is inevitable, it is statistically impossible to get shitty teammates in every single game you've ever played and for them to be the only factor determining your rank. Can you get bad teammates? Yes, and that's tough luck when that happens. Getting mad about it is a pointless endeavor, because you won't get the same teammates next game. Every game is people with different skill levels. You are at a natural advantage in every ranked game, because the only deciding factor to any game is YOURSELF since you are the only person with definitive knowledge on your own skill at the game. There are only FOUR other teammates that could have random skill, and FIVE randomly skilled people on the enemy team. Your odds at climbing to a rank that is accurate to your true skill level is in your favor, even more if you have friends that you can play with, ensuring even more consistency (assuming your friends are at least as skilled as you of course). When I think about Overwatch this way, it makes me examine myself more than getting tilted at my team. Thinking about what I could have done better after every game for next time instead of getting mad at other players helps me a lot. It also helps me ignore when my teammates are mad at me because they think I am doing shit, I won't see them in the next game so their opinion doesn't matter and should not faze me. Their input is often misguided, based on what they THINK my skill level is. I know my skill level, and I know what my capabilities are. If those capabilities happen to be not to up to the task necessary for this specific match, then that's ok. Next match will have different players with different skill levels, with decidedly different results.
Love these deep dives into player psychology. Learnt something new today and can't wait to start training this skill going forward 🎉
Instructions unclear blame mersy.
Nerf Genji, blame Mercy - the Overwatch way.
Came in skeptical, left impressed.
When you die, write the first word that comes to mind.
Me: FUCK
if I did that I think FBI would be on my tail if they found out what i am writting
Okay I did not know tilting came from pinball. that's cool
U sneaky dialectical materialist
I wish I could say that it was intentional but I think the reality that I accidentally did a bit of dialectical materialism is way funnier anyways
Excellent video. Very happy I found this channel.❤
I will say the text of the vid to every tilting mate in my future.
Controlling my emotions and being a stoic individual has helped me a lot throughout many aspects of my life and playing overwatch, constantly trying to improve at it little by little. Especially since Ive been a sombra main since 2016 and am used to getting yelled at a lot by tilted teammates who can’t control themselves and don’t assess themselves.
There’s no reason to be upset over things you cannot control therefore I accept it and work on what I can control. it is what it is, whatever happens, happens.
I feel like a lot of my tilt comes less from my teammates performance and more from my own. I'll admit, I'm a massive perfectionist so any death sets me off. Usually, I get angry at the person who killed me. But that quickly translates to: "Why did I do that? I should be better than to make a mistake like that. I'm so trash at this game that it never feels like I'll improve." Getting tilted is one of my major faults in the game, and it's usually due to a sense of futility in the situation. "This game is so stacked, nothing I'm doing is making a difference, etc."
"It is what it is" might not be the best mantra for me since I'll just take it as "Oh, so we're gonna pretend it doesn't bother me?" Maybe a mantra like "Getting tilted will only make it worse." That way it's an acknowledgment that yes, this pisses me off. But the solution isn't to get super angry.
Man. I honestly, definitely needed to hear this. In therapy, we call these skills "coping strategies." Not sure why I never made this connection, but thank you.
I used to play R6 siege religiously when it released for multiple years. I was above average for mechanical skill, but for game sense I feel I was one of the best (in matchmaking anyway) but I never had a team to capitalize that fact with. So I tilted, a lot. Especially as more and more players stopped talking to randoms in ranked. In the years since, I've also just grown to dislike playing competitive games because I feel like the losing matches are against walls of insurmountable challenge. And it was very random as to if it was a winnable match or not.
In the meantime, I have been playing Destiny 2, doing raids and dungeons, cooperating with players against ai. And that feels great. Way more players actually talk and communicate because they actually want to succeed and they know that you can't without talking. While in competitive games many players assume their lone skill will carry the team to victory. Even I used to think that.
I may some day go back to competitive games, now that I've grown older I've been able to sort out my thoughts more and reflect. You say it's easier to fix the issue than identify it, however I always found I knew why I was tilting, but never could keep the emotions from impacting me.
Also at around 12:40, I believe the actual number would be 80% of games you used to tilt you don't anymore, not 40%. Because every other game is 1/2 or 5/10, while the other option was 1/10, so while it is 4/10 more times you aren't tilting, that is 4/5 times you were previously tilting that you now aren't, or 80%
Love your OW analysis videos, even if I have never liked to play OW myself
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And I think you're right about the 80% vs 40% thing, an earlier version of the script had phrased it in a way where 40% had been the right number but came across too complicated, so I ad libbed the line while I was recording to try to make it more simple and accidentally oversimplified myself right into being wrong lol
Not putting this in an edit cause maybe a new reply will bump this up a bit, but as it turns out my voice chat volume for other people has been at 0% for the past 3 or 4 years in siege. I have no idea why it was set to that, but maybe fixing that will help get me back into it
Really really good video, the psychological aspect of all games and sports is just as important as the other skills
I’d say there’s a lot to be said about being able to resist tilting. I think people who do easily lose their minds do so because they’re more or less safe. It’s a game, you’re behind a screen and a made up name. The chances of the guy you’re screaming at figuring out where you live and punching your teeth in are rather low. But what does tilting accomplish? Does it actually make the tilt-er feel better, or does it more likely just act as a catalyst to the entire situation spiraling out of control until everyone is screaming?
Before role queue, I think I gained something like 1-200 SR by being one brand of untiltable: if I picked support or tank, I would stay in that role no matter what (we'll, except if I genuinely truly believed that a specific dps could overcome a very specific problem our team had, and then I switched back once it was solved....we're talking like 1/100 games at most). I won a LOT of games just by being that rare kind of OW1 player who never rage-picked dps.
I stopped playing OW1 soon after role queue (unrelated) but I often wonder if my SR would have taken a hit long term because role queue removed the simplest way to not tilt, which was a benefit to that small number of players like me who didn't tilt like that. There's a lot of subconsious and hard-ro-control aspects behind tilt, but before rope queue the simplest and most important tilt-skill test was just this: will you keep playing the "unfun" roles even while the game is going poorly?
Just wanted to say that I recently found your channel, and NGL, your Overwatch 2 videos have been helping me to change my mindset about Overwatch, and I've been playing for 6+ years, and yeah, they are helping!! Keep up the good work!!
So I'm very new to comp shooters in general and ow2 is the first I've played consistently, and I think this is really true! My ability to not get tilted I think is why I've improved so much in the past couple of months. I'm still not good, but my goal was to hold my own when my friends were playing and not feel like a burden, as a result I accidently ranked higher than my friend whose one of the best players in the group but more prone to raging and quitting when they lose. (We all play quickplay, I just did comp to try and improve and everyone followed suit.) They're still much better than I am but idk, I'm 27, I can't for the life of me get mad at an online game or rage at team mates, I get more enjoyment outta complimenting the enemy team than trolling them.
Inused to tilt in clash royale. Only when I improved to where I was super confident in my skill and rank, I stopped caring about outcomes because i knew what i deserved. I think I tilt in overwatch because I am never confident in my rank/skill. I’m not confident I’ll rank back up if I lose
A good tip I have found for dealing with reducing tilt to manageable levels, breath in deeply with your belly muscles, and as you are breathing out equally slowly slump your shoulder. You don't normally notice it, but when you experience frustration and anger your shoulders hike up and your breathing gets shallow. Taking the time to breath deeply and loosen your shoulders gives you body the physical signal to clam down. Your body and mind are linked quite hard in most cases. a lot of the time making you body mimic the physical mannerism of a state will cause your mind to start to slip into that state. That includes a state of calm.
11:29 must have been depressing for that hanzo
He was having a rough game that entire match, fortune was not his friend that day.
You videos are all so great. I haven't even really been playing overwatch 2 recently because of the poor matchmaking and lack of feedback from the ranked system/ overall game, but I still love your vids.
There’s this lyric from an AJJ song that is apt here:
“Hey dude I hate everything you do but I’m trying really hard to not hate you cause hating you won’t make you suck any less.”
I've noticed those in higher ranks having seemingly higher emotional intelligence amongst other skills. Maybe that's due to fewer toxic encounters overall, but even under pressure and losing they keep their cool. xQc might be an exception there though.
"it is what it is" - i watched a lot of Jayne when I played overwatch 1, and I've carried his similar "that's unfortunate" mantra into every game and my daily life
In my opinion, the second you stop having fun, just stop playing. Games are not a job, you are not getting paid to play them, you are not developing a useful skill, it is leisure time. If you aren't feeling good during your leisure time, you should spend your leisure time doing something else
Honestly the only time I 'tilt' is when someone else tilts at me and I don't really get angry I just get hyper conscious questioning whether or not I am doing the right thing for the rest of the match but I do make more mistakes when I'm like that
good video, that mantra "it is what it is" has been a mantra of mine when I stream and play overwatch and other competitive games. What matters most is how you proceed after a mistake
Something that was not mentioned is that you inevitably will get tilted sometimes no matter how good you are at resisting it. Furing those moments it's best to just get off rsather thsn letting your tilt move to the next game.
9:10 -- most of the times i die and watch the kill, i feel like i could have avoided it or done better. it doesnt make me upset every time, but at least i can see where i need to improve.
Unrelated but I just wanted to say that you are my new favorite OW content creator.
Step 1: Embrace stoicism
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit
Interesting. Didn't make the connection to pinball tilting before.
when my teamate was tilted I told him tilt is a skill issue, it did not help much....
Hi idk if you remember but i spilled soda on my keyboard watching one of your videos...it almost happened again, but ill still watch your videos even if they give me bad luck with beverages
I absolutely do remember bc that was one of the funniest comments I’ve gotten, I’m glad my videos are worth the risk lol
I use this guys vidéos to get better at competitive league haha
First
Is first still a thing?
No idea, but I’ll take the engagement 🤷🏼♂️
As long as it continues the causes of gamer entryism I’m here to help 🫡
I'm glad you showed up on my youtube, I do like your videos a lot but a week ago when i watched a couple i saw a lot of 10 min overwatch clips what happened to those i was gonna watch them 🤔🤔
Oh yeah, I had a bunch of gameplay videos up but after the scripted stuff started doing well I decided to just focus on that and took the other ones down. They weren't anything special or anything haha
For me it’s not tilt, it’s anxiety which holds me back in overwatch
Oh man! As a new Ana main, I felt that smiley face in chat at 1:52
This is one of the best overwatch vids I've ever seen!
For some reason I have to turn up the volume to hear your voice clearly but it makes everything else on my computer loud... is there a way to make it clearer?
This week was a bit of a rough one for recording, my bad. There was some heavy pollution in the area and coupled with some other health issues I just wasn’t at my best - I’m working on it for the future though, and hopefully it won’t be an issue in the next one!
Love this style of video, super useful ! :)
I have found a lil notebook I'm going to use to try this out now (although tbh I currently am playing rocket league instead but who cares, tilt can happen in every competitive game haha).
I will say this for anyone who gets tilted by allies screwing up (we all have at some point) :
You can always play with premade teams.
It can be more fun and a lot easier to accept them making mistakes.
That said, it's personnal; I have played with a few players who would tilt at me on discord when we were playing (needless to say, never played with any of them ever again).
Where to find?
Discord and in your lobbies are probably the best bet for every comp game out there.
Liked your teamates attitude or their playstyle, send them a message/friend invite !
Check out official discords, they are the most active server.
If like me, you finding a lot of mates tilting at you in voice chat in official discords, check out the discord of the content creators you like; even if barely watch them (Often smaller and closer communities, ready to help each other and spend some good time).
Or also, some games have parternship with other smaller discord, for teams or whatever. Can be a good place to try aswell.
The solution is to gaslight yourself into believing that every loss is your fault. Stop blaming your team and you will win more.
Didn't even have to watch the vid to agree.
This video is great thank you!!! I'm just waiting for you to blow up in popularity.
Deploying a comment for the algo. This guy deserves more subs and views.
I'm not necessarily an easy person to tilt in the understanding that I'd get angry and even when I am angry it takes a very special kind of person to push that I'll express it
Instead I tend to just get demoralised and want the game to be over with
When I stopped playing overwatch 1 comp I ended at around high gold and I could if paired with friends consistently climb into plat although not for long
Come overwatch 2 I suddenly found myself in my QuickPlay games getting placed with people of higher ranks, high plats and even diamonds in some cases, now I know quick play and comp are two different modes but the fact that I was doing well encouraged me to retry comp
I went back into comp and got placed into silver at the very beginning, quickly solo rised to high gold in season 1 but didn't have the energy to hit plat before the season ended
During season 2 I basically waited until I was confident enough in my orisa play that I could counter hog and doom before playing comp, I then proceeded to go from starting at silver 4 to plat 5 in a mere 21 games
However I'm now in plat finding myself challenged more then I have ever been before in comp play and it's demoralising me hard
Definitely going to practice the tips you have suggested in hopes of being able to improve and continue my climb
Thanks for this amazing video
Thank you, and I hope it’s helpful for you! I definitely know the feeling, it can be really hard when you’re doing really well in comp and ranking up quickly only to suddenly hit a bit of a wall once you’re at a rank that more suits your skill level. I hope the season keeps going well for you as well!
@@TheViveros yeah it especially doesn't feel good with the current rank system
I frequently ask for everyone's ranks at the beginning of games just to be told the vast majority of the lobby is plat 3-1 with me frequently being the lowest (plat 5)
Just feels like I need to put in that extra effort to even have a similar rank to the level I'm playing at
Eitherway I am going to try to improve and climb
I totally agree with your points. I do think Overwatch's broken competitive system is another important factor to mention. It's one thing to forgive your teammates' poor performance, but when the current system inherently creates an unfair environment--a majority of games are often one-sided--then it becomes that much harder. When you lose multiple games in a row, not only do you become more frustrated, there's a psychological need to want to "make up" for those bad games. The fact that Overwatch doesn't even reveal your "true" rank is like a nail in the proverbial coffin. It's as if Blizzard wants their playerbase to remain unhappy just to maintain player retention.
I've played other shooters, and Overwatch by far is one of the worst when it comes to tilting. Which is sad because it really is a good game at it's core.
I definitely think that Blizzard’s refusal to make information more clear is a problem, but at the end of the day, you only have control over so much, and it’s important to recognize that even within a flawed system you still have control over how you choose to respond to it. I do also think that a lot more of it is mind games than people realize - like, if you go into every game with the assumption that it will be a one-sided game, that it will be unfair, and that you have very little control over the outcome because it’s being so heavily influenced by factors outside of your control, then I think you’re already setting yourself up to see those things and be disappointed.
I know for myself, when a bad game does happen (bc they definitely do) it helps a lot to consciously choose to frame it as “Sometimes shit happens and we’ve all just gotta move on” and act like it’s an isolated incident. When I let it get to me, it manifests forward in future matches, and the reverse is true as well. The frustration around the ranking system is very valid, though; I think it not only makes people feel shitty, but it gives people such a skewed sense of their own abilities and level of play that it becomes impossible to take any meaningful feedback from it.
@@TheViveros I feel you. With the state Overwatch is in now, I feel the best way to enjoy the game is with a group of friends who have the same mindset as you. Solo-queuing, you're essentially leaving it up to luck whether you get teammates who're able to control their emotions. More often than not, they can't. Sadly. Only way to deal with that is to mute them and focus on your own performance.
I've heard Blizzard plans to address the ranking issues in the upcoming season. I'm remaining cautiously optimistic.
@@TheViveros radical acceptance, cbt/dbt ftw lol
This guy really just explained tilting like its a status effect and I love it!
Being a super high level player in an entirely different game, Omega strikers-
Tilt especially in tournament play is a game killer I stg.
It's an entirely different skill maintaining other peoples mental health when the voice call goes silent or someone is being self deprecating because bagging on yourself is also a form of tilt.
A more sad version of it but tilt nonetheless.
People do really appreciate it when you try to be the field therapist or the rally chief but holy FUCK it's draining as all hell while you're trying to maintain your level of play.
Only time I get severely tilted is in tournament play where I'm consistently thrusted into field therapist/rally cheif position.
Trying to pick up other peoples mental is its own skill. I'M at that point of tilt management where now I gotta learn how to pick up other peoples mental health MID MATCH.
It's much easier to combat tilt when you understand where a person including yourself is coming from and what they're thinking ESPECIALLY if they tell you before a game where you know you're gonna have to play your role and field therapist.
Therapy with Viveros is something I never thought I needed
Nobody else is meeting the demand for gamer-oriented therapy, I had to step up to the plate
I realized how much tilted players seem to go down in matches, and as evil as this sounds, I use this on the enemy team
If I'm playing an especially low skill hero like Moira and get a lucky kill, just a little taunt like "Get off the stage", and that player, if they're not good at controlling their anger, will literally throw the game just so they can prove to me they're better... but, it works out for me 🤷🏽♂️
I sent this video to my friend because he gets tilted. He says he doesn't, but he does. He calls it 'I'm irritated'. But he spends the whole match being like 'nerf this, nerf that. Why is this character in game' blah blah blah.
I was blessed at birth with an inability to be angry at video games in literally any sense, but my God do I get some deep, nigh-on sexual enjoyment out of pushing people who *do* get tilted. My preferred method is killing 'em with kindness, toxic tilters absolutely HATE when people aren't mirroring their own toxicity, and it's not like I'm going to get banned for abusive chat when I say "You're doing so good!!! Keep it up! :D". At the end of the day, Overwatch 2 is a free-to-play game about cartoon porn characters being randomly buffed and nerfed by a developer who just does whatever they think will make the most money, there's really no reason to take it so seriously.
This is incredible advice and a great analysis of tilt. From my experience, there is no tilt purger like giving up. I don't mean mid game stop trying. I mean I literally quit OW1 because of ceaseless tilt. I was so upset with my aim, I tried everything, I had 400 hours in the game, and still couldn't hit most shots. So I called it, never felt more liberated in Overwatch in my life.
Tilt and Toxicity feels like two sides of the same coin. I play a lot of Hunt Showdown, I am very hard on myself and when I am having a bad few games I tend to get inwardly negative. I look at what I did wrong and when I get to the point where I know I am playing worse because of my own negativity, I take a step back. As opposed to a lot of the toxic players making everyone on their team tilt and play worse by simply flaming everyone and not taking a moment to think of what they are doing or could be doing better.
I am an old man at this point. I have very little patience for toxicity. If someone is tilting out and are outwardly negative to their teammates, I mute them. I mute myself when I start to tilt and I try my best to focus on what I am doing or what is causing me to tilt while also not projecting that onto my team. But as a Hunt player we have a little motto.... Hunt Giveth and Hunt Taketh away. You are not going to win everything. You are going to die and be set back, that is the game. After 1400 hours in Hunt, playing other games where I get to respawn and run it back in the same lobby, it quickly becomes experimentation time on what I need to improve on.
Also your "It is what it is" point is so incredibly crucial. I have a friend that plays games with me who is pretty much tilt proof from my experiences with them. He has a very "It's all good" attitude and it is refreshing playing with him. I have done lots of randoms and the teams mentality is so incredibly important to me as a person. I can spend 6 hours getting destroyed in Hunt with him and not get tilted. Because we acknowledge when we played well and when we were in almost unwinnable positions. But we give one another small critiques that we both are very receptive to. But it is also about how they are delivered. The difference between "That was a tough situation, Maybe it would have been better to try and disengage or find a better angle." as opposed to "What a moron, why would you take that fight."
The place where I’m stuck in this is that I know it’s stupid to tilt… I know I look like a ridiculous man baby when I tilt, I know it affects my performance, i know playing is half mindset and confident people do way better, i know if I just control that my performance does ten times better, I know I need to work on it and actively work on breathing and staying objective… I’ll do literal outer body experiences where I try to see the game from above so I disconnect myself from how I feel about my performance but i just do sometimes. Yes I know it’s a skill issue and I know I need to work on it. Just gets to a point where I feel I’ll never get better( which I know also makes it worse) but I am just not a confident person like that. I have decent game sense but my aim is ass and it feels like after years of playing fps (I’m still relatively new to them I started 4 years ago) it’s still not much better. I’ll see a play I can make and try to but i miss shots so I lose fights I should have won cause I had the initial advantage. My anger is rarely with the team mostly with myself. I have to keep practicing I know 😞
i have some level of inferiority complex when it comes to being bad at games (be it because i couldnt play much growing up or my own lack of situational awareness in games). i Also have avoided any type of online coop with strangers in games, because im scared of being yelled at (especially for being afab). i was convinced i Didnt tilt-im not a skilled player and im a newbie at overwatch, everything is frustrating-but i guess thats the point. i hope you know this video doesnt apply just to people playing competitive, its helped people whose first fps is overwatch as well
So how do I not get tilted when a Plat Widow 1V5s my Silver Team as I play Junkrat to deal with the other 4 Silver enemies and Tank refuses to get off Junker Queen and Supports keep peeking?
Really great insight on tilt. I do my best to stay level headed in the games i play. I know what its like to tilt beyond all reason, and at this point im more concerned with just having fun in my games than anything else and tilting is a direct enemy to fun. I've played a lot of Destiny 2 pvp and that game's PvP is guaranteed to piss you off until you just cant be bothered to care anymore so I like to think that game has made it easier for me to resist tilt in other games.
In OW the only things that genuinely frustrate me are just not being able to really play (getting shut down the instant i get back from spawn) and pharah. Not even Pharah players no just the character. I think shes a low skill piece of shit that gets too much value out of simply existing. Virtually infinite flight if you arent stupid, high damage on contact rockets, and position disruption. I hate being knocked around, my otherwise fine aim being thrown off by some idiot that doesnt even need to aim. Not even junkrat is that annoying. I channel my rage toward pharah into training my hitscan aim with McCree. I will play him in Deathmatch until my aim is good enough to make pharah players rage quit. Gods help you if you play pharah against not only me but also my friends who hate her just as much as i do.
I think the meme where people say "skill issue" and nothing else is terrible. Genuinely just annoying. The people who use it like this seem to have no room in their head for nuance, all they can seem to say is what amounts to "you're bad". It also commonly seems to be in response to criticism of a game, and people use it to shut down arguments without having to actually argue anything. I wouldn't be surprised if some joker replied to this comment saying "skill issue", because it seems like just the type of thing these people would do.
This isn't really directed towards the video or it's use of skill issue, just a general complaint about the phrase.
this video gave me genuine hope doe me in those aspects. I remember times when i didn't care what others thought of me when i played, and that i was actually having fun, before i gave comp a try. I found my own self worth in the rank i had. (which looking back is kinda dumb, but the past is the past i guess) and even today, with me not playing comp at all since season 26-7 climbing to diamond, i still struggle with not tieing my self worth to how i perform in game. Now im trying my best to learn how to have fun in Overwatch again, and your video and its advice might help me when i do play, even if i know most of the reasons why i get tilted in the first place.
Great insight! I always found myself tilting at my team most of all, hyperfocusing on them just makes me annoyed. It's good to know that just focusing on myself isn't all I could be doing, but staying in control of my emotions could really help.
8:52 OMG do you know my entire mental health play book, I've always say that the first step in tempering your emotions is to notice them, I've always have been a self reflection person even at a young age, when i would get mad or sad ext, i would just set in one place for hours, what would look like me just staring into space doing nothing, i was actually meticulously mulling over the moment that made me mad or sad ext, breaking it down what happened what could have happened until that moment doesn't bother me as much or at all.
I've been TRYING to find people who understand how to logically improve gameplay, and this shit is soooooo much what I've been searching for. exactly the type of shit I need to work with. MORE PLS
Totally agree. Ive tried to explain this to some of my friends who do get angry at games a lot before, but they instantly say that its not something they can change about themselves. That getting angry at games is just a part of them even if they know its a bad thing. So yea... they just dont even try...
People getting mad in chat are so annoying. I get so many people get mad at me Bc I play Brig, but never tell me what I’m actually doing wrong. I went from bronze to plat 3 this season with Brig. I had to learn a lot to get that far, she’s not a easy hero to play in comp. like you’re gonna lose a lot in this game, the matchmaking is just stupid. When your mad at one ur teammates keep it to yourself.
Position in overwatch is different from games I main like csgo. In csgo, if your in a common position you die. If overwatch you don't need to know every map but understand your surrounding like if there is a narrow passage or there is high ground you understand that you need to protect that because of the advantage it provides.
Nah, I've never tilted but every time I spend any significant amount of time playing this game I have to smdh cuz this games community has some of the worst attitudes in gaming. Hands down.
just discovered your channel! every video i’ve watched thus far has been great and contained a useful insight. This video is the most understandable dissertation of tilting in gaming that i’ve seen, I love it
I agree with you on almost everything except the very end the main problem and my me and my Friends stopped playing rank in ow2 is rank is definitely messed up for example at the start of the season me and my buddys are around mid to low plat and we would get games that we stomped like the enemy team could do nothing and we would looks at profile and see silver and some times bronze players but in the reverse we would get games that would have 4 people with topp 500 titles and they would push are shit in. But over all I agree its a skill issue and the funny thing is how my group deals with it is we lean in to the anger and for some reson it makes us on avrage play better that might be due to all of us doing combat sports and learn to Chanel are anger in productive was but we will rage at be mad at one another are we always seem to do noticeable better just a weird think I notice in my group. Would love a video on your thought on soft and hard counter and if they are good for a game.
Great work bruh, really been enjoying your stuff.
This is just good advice for managing your emotions in general. I use techniques you mentioned (with the help of a therapist) all the time to manage intrusive thoughts.
enjoying the content :)
Gonna try this on League since I don’t play overwatch. Always have had trouble with tilting…
I agree however when I just played the most unwinnable game with a pocketed soujourn the whole time and then I load into another game and one of my friends gets hit with applying update then gets banned I can’t not be tilted