Best Looper/Switcher Under $300? One Control Tail Loop Review!

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar 2 роки тому +1

    Great demo, but I don't agree with the build quality. The switches are not regular pedal switches. The top that you stomp is normal, but below is just a spring which pressed down a digital button om the motherboard. Two of my don't always work, including the BANK switch. I can press it lightly or stomp on it like crazy, and doesn't matter. It's not completely accurate in that way. I bought it used a few days ago, so I don't know what the previous guys did with it. What I did was, I put on little rubber feet on the digital buttons, like those rubber feet that you get under some pedals. The buttons feel a bit heavier, naturally, but it might have solved the issue with the switches not always working. It is a very compact switcher and it's pretty useful!
    6:40 I discovered on my own the sound of an octave up and an octave down mixed with the clean signal, along with a tremolo, and it sounds really good! Kinda like an organ.

  • @gh0stkat440
    @gh0stkat440 3 роки тому

    I am a John 5 Lowery and Adam Jones fan and when I just saw ur pedal board ……dude that is wicked cool.

  • @Mattbuchanan71
    @Mattbuchanan71 5 років тому +4

    Are you able to change the pedal order around? How does the signal path work? Say I want 3 pedals and I want univibe before or instead after gain.

  • @chaoticus06
    @chaoticus06 10 місяців тому

    Great vid! I can appreciate the organization that went into your setup. How are you powering everything? Maybe make a vid on power?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  10 місяців тому

      No worries, good timing! I actually made a vid on power a few weeks ago ; ) Check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/w9ABdDpnj2w/v-deo.html

    • @masternippleblaster
      @masternippleblaster 10 місяців тому

      I was just thinking the same but what I really would like to know is how useful is the power sharing capabilities this looper? If I understood correctly, the whole idea behind this unit, it can do a lot of things but what makes it interesting for me is the fact that you can power pedals from it which is super useful - so, what is your experience in that regard? I am thinking about One Control Chamaeleo Tail Loop MKII that has 6x9v outs but I don't know how good they are and what can you power with them... What is the max mA you can send from them. Could you please be so kind to share any idea or data you might have before I decide on that device? Thank you!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  10 місяців тому

      This looper isn't a power supply, it's a power distributor (kind of like a daisy chain). So the total output power will depend on the power supply you're using to power the looper itself. This feature probably works pretty well, but I haven't tried it. To keep things as clean and quiet as possible, I opted for a seperate, fully isolated power supply. Hope that helps ; ) @@masternippleblaster

  • @flyguyty33
    @flyguyty33 2 роки тому

    I think I’m too simple for a switcher but at the same time I probably need one lol.
    I’ve noticed John frusciante doesn’t use switchers and he has the most massive pedalboard I’ve ever seen. He also struggles turning on/off a few pedals at a time but it’s really an art form of struggle lol.
    Thank you for the information

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers!

    • @independentinstallations8419
      @independentinstallations8419 2 роки тому +2

      May be an option better suited for you like the Swiss Things by earthquakes devices gives you several great functions one of them being two independent effect loops one designed for all your dirt pedals and the other for time and mod effects basically giving you time to turn on whichever multiple pedals you want to come on at once before ultimately hitting the loop 2 button which will add any pedal you have on thats in the loop and cut them all off at once when hit again. Theres also an independent clean boost with volume knob and an awesome a/b/y switch allowing you to run to 2 amps and with between them or blend both amps together. Finally it has tuner out and volume pedal out all in a pedal the size of a big muff. Few other options which offer similar but add the ability to run effects parallel is the OBNE signal blender or the Tri parallel mixer by electro harmonix. the last 2 both under $150 and the Swiss things will run around $250 last I checked. Love JF also and not sure why he doesnt use the new tools available but likely its simply the old stuck in their ways thing which is understandable when you feel that technology has done us more harm then good us old people are skeptical when we have a system that has served us well lol. I think his tone is better than ever today imo Its also not as big of a problem degrading your signal running all those pedals in series when your playing through 3 Marshall stacks

  • @SHTMusik
    @SHTMusik 3 роки тому

    Harley Benton ISO-4 is programmable, has a power supply and costs 89€!!! BUT, it´s serial not parralel mixing. Another option to consider is the ElectroHarmonix Tri-Parallel Mixer. It´s not programmable but it only costs 129€ so...@

  • @bassyey
    @bassyey Рік тому

    I wish this had the option to do 4 cable method.

  • @WinstonTexas829
    @WinstonTexas829 7 місяців тому +1

    The review starts at 5:14.

  • @justaguy2365
    @justaguy2365 9 місяців тому

    I dunno... the Joyo PXL pro has 8 loops with a dedicated tuner input and 4 trigger outs for amp switching and such and the ability to run the first 4 loops through an amp fx loop

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  9 місяців тому

      Nice! I'll have to check it out ; )

  • @Den00Funk
    @Den00Funk Рік тому

    Cool demo! The Agamidae tail seems totally noiseless. Does it has soft switches? You can get zero "pop" even switching while holding a note or a chord?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  Рік тому

      Thanks! Mine just has the standard type of switches. However, I haven't noticed any pops when switching between loops. That said, I only really use it to clean up my signal chain in the studio. Not for switching sounds when playing live. Anyway, I hope that helps ; )

  • @allanflippin2453
    @allanflippin2453 9 місяців тому

    Thanks, your explanation is very clear. In my case, I have two amplifiers, and I'd like to be able to control which effects go to which amp. I know the unit you're reviewing won't do that. But which looper/switcher products can do that? So far, I've only seen a $999 unit from GigRig. Are there any other units capable of this? Thanks!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  9 місяців тому

      Hey! If you're running wet/dry, I'd just use the switcher for my gain staging (comp, eq, boost, overdrive, ect.). Then I'd use a simple buffered splitter after the switcher to send my delay and reverb to the second amp. Hope that helps ; )

  • @johnandersen9219
    @johnandersen9219 4 роки тому

    Just wanted to drop a quick note to say your video was a great help in selecting the switcher based on my needs! I will be ordering in the AM ... My only question, though I am sure I can figure out when it arrives, is in regards to the power source. I use a Voodoo Lab power source with 8 independent 9v outs which I think I will continue to use rather than daisy chaining all the inputs. Thanks again! Concise & clear!! Always appreciated :-) LOL

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому

      Awesome, John. I appreciate that mate ; ) Regards power, the unit itself just takes a standard 9v input. As you mention, you can also daisy chain other pedals from the switcher as well. Personally, I just use a dedicated power supply to make sure that everything stays isolated. But I'm sure the chaining option would work great in a pinch. Anyway, glad the video helped. All the best!

    • @johnandersen9219
      @johnandersen9219 4 роки тому

      @@lukezecchin Thanks! I was planning to use the isolated dedicated outs as well. Good to know that you do as well ... 👏👏

    • @johnandersen9219
      @johnandersen9219 3 роки тому

      @@lukezecchin Hey there my friend ... The unit came today ... EZ to set up & program once I figured out it's 6 "Send/Returns" but only 5 "Loops" .. LOL ... I think it's just the terminology that's confusing at first. At first pass here is what I noticed .... More "Highs" coming through since not all the pedals are in the chain as before ....... made some adjustments and we are good! Thanks again. ... Happy Holidays!

  • @paulpierreemile2179
    @paulpierreemile2179 Рік тому

    One question : why does it have a loop number 1 (send and return) if the 1st switch is used to edit/choosing banks ?? Thank you so much !

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  Рік тому +1

      The unit has 6 loops. 'Edit' is just a secondary function on the 1st switch. Hope that helps ; )

  • @iRemainNameless
    @iRemainNameless 11 місяців тому

    Great video I have a question. Does the One Control allow me to use the pedals in the loop switching on and off individually? Like no presets where there is a combo of pedals? This looper world is entirely new to me and I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
    I was considering the Joyo PXL Pro loop switcher but everything I've watched so far doesn't include the simple on/off of pedals individually like you've shown here.

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  11 місяців тому

      Yeah, it's mainly setup to use in preset mode.
      That said, once you click the switcher into edit mode, you can manually switch banks on/off individually. I assume the JOYO would let you do something similar but I haven't used one.

  • @lucapisconti
    @lucapisconti 3 роки тому

    Hi, I can't set the bypass how you do at minute 08:50. How can I di the bypass?

  • @ryanlong3378
    @ryanlong3378 3 роки тому

    Hello - Great video! My only issue (sorry, I know...) is that I'm not sure you explained the buffer correctly in the first part of the rig rundown. I don'e believe it splits it into 2 channels as you described. Unless you have it wired differently, it should be guitar IN, "loop out" to everything on the pedalboard, "loop in" and then "amp out" to buffer it both directions. Can you please explain that for me? Thank you!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  3 роки тому

      Hey! Yeah, the Empress buffers can be configured in multiple ways. The standard way is as you describe, using it as a loop with separate buffers on the input and output. However, it can also be configured as a 2-way (and even 3-way) splitter. Below is a link to the manual if you want more info on how that works. Hope that helps, cheers mate!
      support.empresseffects.com/support/solutions/articles/1000282797

  • @luthierwnc
    @luthierwnc 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for this. Have you ever used the Mission buffer to run the same setup wet/dry? Cheers, sh

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  6 місяців тому

      Yep! I'm doing that on my new pedalboard. Works great ; )

    • @luthierwnc
      @luthierwnc 6 місяців тому

      Thanks!

  • @gh0stkat440
    @gh0stkat440 3 роки тому

    Do I need a rocketscience masters degree?

  • @gtaglia779
    @gtaglia779 4 роки тому

    I have 2 pedals: an Eq and noise gate pedal that stay on at all times. Do they need to be connected to the looper? I want to create presets with my distortion, wah, and modulation pedals in addition to those 2... Is this possible?

  • @etking9784
    @etking9784 3 роки тому

    Can you change preset or pedals and amp channel at the same time?

  • @ameliaboucho2150
    @ameliaboucho2150 Рік тому

    I bought an One Agamidae Tail Loop switcher on september 2022, january 2023 it has started to freeze live and I have to swich off/on the pedalboard to make it disappear, very disappointed..

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  Рік тому

      I haven't had that issue with mine. Sound super frustrating though! As it's only a few months old, however, be sure to reach out to the retailer you purchased it from. They should be able to fix or replace it under warranty.

  • @althewicked
    @althewicked Рік тому

    Nice one! Thanks. Is it possible to change the order of the pedals in a loop preset?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  Рік тому

      No, not on this model. It only saves presets based on which loops are switched on and off. Cheers!

    • @althewicked
      @althewicked Рік тому

      @@lukezecchin hey thanks for your reply. Do you know a looper which can change the order in a similar price range?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  Рік тому

      @@althewicked Not off the top of my head, sorry. Perhaps, check out the other models in the One Control series. Cheers.

    • @althewicked
      @althewicked Рік тому

      @@lukezecchin Thanks man

  • @TheStoneboat
    @TheStoneboat 2 роки тому

    Hi - I found that very helpful - thanks!. How do you access banks 6 to 20? (the vid shows the bank button cycles from 1 to 5 only, then back to bank 1). Cheers!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  2 роки тому +1

      Hey! From memory, this is a setting you have to enable on the unit itself. I don't use more than the default 5 banks, so I've never needed to. But I remember the process of adding more banks was pretty simple. You should be able to download the manual from their website if you'd like to find out more on how to do it. Thanks ; )

    • @TheStoneboat
      @TheStoneboat 2 роки тому

      ​@@lukezecchin Thanks a million chap! Not sure I really need more than 5 banks either, but it's nice to know all the functions. I bought one becuase of your video btw. The manual could be clearer but seems to suggest you can set the number of active banks between 1 and 20 by powering up in a special way. May set it to 3!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  2 роки тому

      @@TheStoneboat Awesome, best of luck mate ; )

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 роки тому

      You power it up while holding the BANK switch, and you'll see all preset LED's light up red and the current highest number of banks available. Press BANK to increase the amount of banks you want to use.

  • @schizoinstereo
    @schizoinstereo 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the informative video. I've been looking at purchasing a switcher but since I play post-rock ambient styles mostly, I don't want my reverb/delay tails getting cut off when I switch. Is there any way around this at all? Thanks!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  5 років тому +3

      Hey! Hmm, not really... All switchers will take the pedal in/out of your signal chain. (Which means the tails will be cut off.) Of course, you could just place your reverb and delay effects after the switcher. This means you can switch modulation and drive effects etc. without cutting the tails. Hope that helps ; )

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 3 роки тому

      Schizo good question. I don’t want any time/modulation effects cut off abruptly IF switched off, but that is unavoidable with a switched loop AFAICT.

  • @abchighway
    @abchighway 4 роки тому

    Hey man, great video. Question for you:
    Basically, this device allows you to plug in 6 total effect pedals, but you’re only able to create 5 combination presets in each bank in buttons 2-6, since button 1 is acting as the Bank button. Does the Bank button function the same way as the others when you’re in Program mode? For instance, if you had an Overdrive Pedal plugged in #1 instead of your volume, how would you program that into your effects loops? Wouldn’t pressing the bank button just switch the banks or take it back out of Program mode?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. In the 'Program' mode you have access to switching on and off all 6 loops. The switch only scrolls through banks when you're in 'Preset' mode. Hope that helps! Cheers ; )

    • @abchighway
      @abchighway 4 роки тому

      @@lukezecchin awesome, thanks for the reply! I’ve been considering getting one of these because for the price and how compact it is, seems like a pretty good deal. Haven’t seen too many videos of people using them. One year after posting the video, do you still like it?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому +1

      @@abchighway Yep, great little compact unit. It's going to be front and centre on my new studio pedalboard ; )

  • @gtaglia779
    @gtaglia779 4 роки тому

    I don't understand how to chain my pedals with this. I have a NS-2 gate (4 wire cable method) and EQ that always stay on and do not need to be looped. Is everything plugged in front of the amp?? My delay, chorus, and reverb are currently in the fx loop. Help!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому

      Everything is looped in series. This means if you're running 4-cable method, you have to choose whether to place the looper in front of the amp or in the FX loop (you can't do both). In general, I'd suggest always using loop switchers in front of the amp. However, if you're only using 4 pedals (2 in front and 2 in the FX loop) you probably don't need a loop switcher at all ; )

    • @gtaglia779
      @gtaglia779 4 роки тому

      @@lukezecchin I have a delay, reverb, and chorus pedal in the fx loop. I'm wondering what effect it would have being all plugged in front of the amp through the looper?

    • @thomaschilds8781
      @thomaschilds8781 3 роки тому

      What I think (hope) you can do is this:
      Think of your amp's preamp section as a pedal and put it into one of the switcher's loops (say loop 4). In all of your presets, you'd keep your preamp on.
      It "costs" you one of your loops, but you could then have, for example, delay and reverb in the amp's effects loop, and 2 drives and a chorus in front of the amp.
      I'm considering buying this switcher, with this specific use case in mind.

  • @billavonda1604
    @billavonda1604 2 роки тому

    Excellent review. Thanks!!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  2 роки тому

      Glad you found it useful. Cheers!

  • @cedlachapel
    @cedlachapel 5 років тому

    Thank you for the review ! Can we switch amp channels with this ?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  5 років тому +1

      No, you'd want to use a separate channel footswitch. Cheers ; )

  • @paulhanley7237
    @paulhanley7237 3 роки тому

    Hey..thanks for presenting this. Have you tried daisy chaining a pair or more of pedals on a single channel to see if it causes any pedal whine or feedback?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  3 роки тому +1

      If you mean 'daisy chaining' the power, I have tried that. However, it runs perfectly fine running multiple pedals in a single loop (if that's what you mean). Hope that helps ; )

    • @Xyrium
      @Xyrium 3 роки тому

      @@lukezecchin Yes sir, that's exactly it. I ended up with the Chamaeleo, and it's working great. Thanks for posting this!

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  3 роки тому

      @@Xyrium Awesome! Glad the video could help. Best of luck ; )

  • @tonepoet
    @tonepoet 4 роки тому

    Are banks active only if you have presets programmed within them (it appears so, sorry for asking something that seems a bit obvious).

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому

      No worries. The Tail Loop comes pre-loaded with 5 banks. But you can access up to 20 manually, if you so desire later. (The product manual shows you how to do this.) Hope that helps, cheers!

  • @franksoundtrack
    @franksoundtrack 5 років тому

    Hi Nice review!if I may ask, Where did you get your switch Button cover ?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  5 років тому

      They're Mooer Candy pedal toppers. You can find them cheap on eBay ; )

  • @rjroth4869
    @rjroth4869 4 роки тому

    Very helpful! Thanks very much.

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  4 роки тому

      No worries, I'm glad you found it useful. Cheers ; )

  • @chefallen520
    @chefallen520 2 роки тому

    500 US Nee. Mid 300-450. Used

  • @Ad-excelsum
    @Ad-excelsum 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot for the review! is it possible to change the order of the loops (for example run loop 3 before loop 2). I want to put my modulation on a loop and my drives on another a switch the order back and forth between sounds.

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  3 роки тому +2

      Cheers! Unfortunately, you can't switch the order of loops with this unit. Some of the bigger units come with this functionality. Hope that helps ; )

    • @Ad-excelsum
      @Ad-excelsum 3 роки тому +1

      @@lukezecchin Thanks a lot for the reply mate !
      I made my research and it seems that only older units and high-end ones offer this. Upon further reading, I also found out that most people who thought they would swap orders a lot rarely do so. I think it settles it then.
      If anyone is interested I found out that the Moen gec438 offers a 4 channel order swap. It can be found at around 50 USD used here in Japan. I'd rather have 8 or even 6 channels than 4 with order swap but it seems to be a good solution for anybody interested in having this feature without having to pay 400 USD for a Boss ES-5.
      Cheers.

    • @yakplateado1923
      @yakplateado1923 2 роки тому

      @@Ad-excelsum this was a really really helpful comment, thanks for sharing!

  • @augustelvin3021
    @augustelvin3021 5 років тому

    Hi. What about the 1. Bank? Is that just a edit Button?

    • @lukezecchin
      @lukezecchin  5 років тому

      Yeah, the edit button does have it's own loop but you can't save a preset to it (like the others). So in each bank, there are 6 loops to choose from but only 5 switches for saving patches. Hope that helps ; )

  • @vicenteb531
    @vicenteb531 2 роки тому

    is it true bypass?

  • @chedz1l
    @chedz1l 2 роки тому

    this is genius bro

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling 9 місяців тому

    So basically a Joyo PXL8 for 130 bucks more

    • @jasontanner5836
      @jasontanner5836 3 місяці тому

      I picked this one up for $150 used yesterday. It’s definitely better build quality than Joyo

  • @luthierwnc
    @luthierwnc 6 місяців тому

    Sorry, Empress buffer

  • @FLdb-wj4wc
    @FLdb-wj4wc 4 роки тому

    This was confusing

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass 3 роки тому

      I was thinking the same

    • @jbrashguitarist
      @jbrashguitarist 3 роки тому

      He kept saying "simply" - but it didn't seem simple haha