Such a cool video. Not many companies are willing to explain how discs are made and it is such a grey area for disc golf hobbyists that are interested in it. Nice work!
I build plastic injection molds for a living, mostly for automotive. I rarely get to see the tools run at an injection facility so this is so cool to see! When I first got in to disc golf and people started talking about different molds I was immediately like wow I understand. Love this part of disc golf! Keep up with what you guys are doing because it's awesome!!
Absolutely one of the greatest disc golf videos of all time. Peeling back the curtain in a way the big guys wouldn’t! I have wondered what this is like in real life for so long. This is extremely exciting content. Please deep dive on every part of the equipment and the process.
I work with injection molded products. The Engineer guy video you had a small clip of here is an excellent education tool for new colleagues who know nothing about the process. This was also very interesting view on the injection molding process from a disc manufacturing view point. I might need to share this with my colleagues as well.
Having taken college classes on injection molding and years of work in the industry, I have to say, this is legitimately one of the most effective and accessible explanations of the process and equipment that I've ever seen! Really great work, it's so awesome to see the journey and passion you put into it! Now just gotta speed up the clamp action and add a robot w/ suction end-of-arm to automate the process and cut down the cycle time... then you'll really be cranking out discs! XD
As an engineer by day, disc golfer by night, and full time raccoon enthusiast this was a very cool video. I love learning how these things are done and I'm hoping to start my own company designing and making something some day!
Great breakdown on your process and the continuous evolution of Trash Panda! I bought my first TP Inner Core when visiting my kid in Lawrence Kansas last year and I now also have the ET II. Keep up the great work and I look forward to more great discs and content, thank you.
I work in manufacturing, and I disc golf as one of my hobbies for exercise, so this is the coolest. I will look for your discs next time I buy. I'd love to help support this!
Very informative. Thank you Jesse you have open my eyes to what different plastics and molds entail in the process of making them. I had no idea. I live in the inland Northwest, and we don’t have anything locally that compares to what you have put down. I will be buying a couple of your new inner cores. I own two of the old ones and I’m curious what the future holds. Keep on being you. Huge props to yourself and your crew who keep pumping out amazing products with a small footprint.
Mega Impressive, thanks for taking all of your time to produce this. As the director of the Flying Disc Museum, knowing how these things are built can provide additional insight. Thanks again!
As an ex Cincinnati Milicran Injection Molding Die Setter, and disc golf addict this video hits all my feels! I have years on these machines and spent my 20’s experimenting with them.
Super insightful thanks for taking the time to do this. There are actually a lot of parallels to the 3d printing process I didn't think about with disc manufacturing!
I would love to see you talk about how companies are getting swirls and orbit rims. From the way you describe it, it seems like it would involve a totally different process or potentially introducing the heated plastic later in the 'screw' but it still feels like that wouldn't be at all possible with this current setup. Love what you are doing, glad you are back.
🙏🏻 thank you Jesse for sharing this awesome process. I’ve enjoyed following your journey from the garage to here. Best wishes to you and the crew going forward.
I have quite a lot of experience of injection moulding and making a disc with center sprue is the simplest part by theory. If you use sensitive material like TPU you should consider a hopper drier directly on your machine, when you handle the material it starts to absorb moisture directly. Also make sure that you use a dry air unit and not a hot air unit, hot air units are good for simple materials like some ABS or PE and PP, but for TPU you need the low dew point that a dry air unit using dessicant drying. If you have questions you can ask me anything about the process.
How do discs come out in different weights from the same mold and the same plastic type? Can the final weight be controlled in advance, or is it by chance?
I'm absolutely baffled by the mixing of SI and old Imperial units in the machine's interface. How is that even possible? Seeing "mm" next to "PSI" makes my head want to explode.
I'm new to the Denver area and heads down on my own new recycling program/project. Can I buy you some coffee and pick your brain on your journey so far?
Would love a nocturnal box, but $80 box and $100 shipping, Australian dollars, kill that. I love what you do, it's so good to see the effort you go to, to make our sport sustainable, just wish you were more accessible over here
You mentioned the inconsistencies of recycled plastic... have you found a "happy medium" process for a given mold and range of plastic(s) or are you constantly tweaking from batch to batch?
I would love to know about the removal of the disc / stripper plate process. I know some manufacturers talk about certain molds are harder to extract than others making it where they don’t run them in all plastics - I’ve never understood why that happens.
There's a few simulation software packages specifically for injection molding that helps you figure out the hardest bits; basically controlling the shot size, material flow rate and how the mold will fill up with specific polymers (and a whole lot more). Solidworks Plastic is arguably the industry standard, though there's a few stand-alone packages also which cost even more than Solidworks, surprisingly. I'd have to check my bookmarks to list alternatives, though I wouldn't be surprised if Siemens has something for SolidEdge or a stand-alone also.
@@karaffens Ehh, I would say that largely depends on complexity. If you have a simple shape with no complications, sure. On the flip side, a lot of the objects I deal with have to be exact as it ultimately may teeter on a life dependency, in which case, those precious microns being where they need to be matters.
@@C-M-E still experience beat simulations, Ive done injection moulding for two decades and work with people doing it for over 35 years and done a lot of work people writing books in the subject. I have experience in medical device, automotive, technical, electronics and so on. In the end simulations are just simulations and experience and knowledge is what you really use.
@@karaffens That's a nice set of accolades, but imagine if you were just starting out or were working solo on a new injection project. You'd have to read some books, invest a bit of time, materials and probably precious working capital making mistakes. Or as a tool on your future belt, it's much cheaper to make digital mistakes on a path to better understanding and as you put it, gaining experience. I'm not saying right or wrong, just offering a second point of view and alternatives for others so inclined.
I've got a question. With the injector, how hard is it to embed something inside the disc. Let's say I want to puy a coin inside the disc, directly in the middle. Or perhaps something inside the rim.. Do you think it's doable?
At RPM they found recycling TPU into discs is not great as It results in shorter disc lifespans. And even though they carefully retained all their 2nds, they had no way to use them. And then they started producing the Weta Mini. And of course a mini doesn't suffer the extreme life of a heavy thrown disc, and so they are now using their big stash of seconds to mould their minis, with zero cost for plastic - except chopping and drying.
Have you thrown Trash Panda yet? I’ve put my Inner Core (1.5 yrs) and Dune (9 months) through the wringer (including hitting a lot of trees 😢) and they are holding up great!
Good video. It's just enough info so people can understand more how things work and stop making up just crazy random things like they do when they dont know anything about injection molding.
Jesse, watching this video I can't help but think about how an espresso machine works. Please look into doing a collaboration with James Hoffman. His passion exploring the "process" may rival yours.
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Such a cool video. Not many companies are willing to explain how discs are made and it is such a grey area for disc golf hobbyists that are interested in it. Nice work!
I build plastic injection molds for a living, mostly for automotive. I rarely get to see the tools run at an injection facility so this is so cool to see! When I first got in to disc golf and people started talking about different molds I was immediately like wow I understand. Love this part of disc golf! Keep up with what you guys are doing because it's awesome!!
This is why Trash Panda is the best manufacturer. Who else would show you this much of the process? Makes me feel involved!
Love the update!!! I also heard that Trash Panda has some huge signings coming up 👀
J Milly tour Series Dunes please
Oooooooo
So glad Nocturnal happened, but also extremely glad it’s over!!!!
Absolutely one of the greatest disc golf videos of all time. Peeling back the curtain in a way the big guys wouldn’t! I have wondered what this is like in real life for so long. This is extremely exciting content. Please deep dive on every part of the equipment and the process.
I work with injection molded products. The Engineer guy video you had a small clip of here is an excellent education tool for new colleagues who know nothing about the process. This was also very interesting view on the injection molding process from a disc manufacturing view point. I might need to share this with my colleagues as well.
Having taken college classes on injection molding and years of work in the industry, I have to say, this is legitimately one of the most effective and accessible explanations of the process and equipment that I've ever seen! Really great work, it's so awesome to see the journey and passion you put into it!
Now just gotta speed up the clamp action and add a robot w/ suction end-of-arm to automate the process and cut down the cycle time... then you'll really be cranking out discs! XD
I respect all you guys do. The coolest thing for me is I have a trash panda for a pet, and I play disc golf. Awesome.😎
That color and the new logo! So excited for more from Trash Panda!!
what a difference 2 years makes, i recall when this was just a dream, TP is on it's way!! congrats!!!
As an engineer by day, disc golfer by night, and full time raccoon enthusiast this was a very cool video. I love learning how these things are done and I'm hoping to start my own company designing and making something some day!
The new logo looks great! The new brand outline on the website was spot on!
Great breakdown on your process and the continuous evolution of Trash Panda! I bought my first TP Inner Core when visiting my kid in Lawrence Kansas last year and I now also have the ET II. Keep up the great work and I look forward to more great discs and content, thank you.
I work in manufacturing, and I disc golf as one of my hobbies for exercise, so this is the coolest.
I will look for your discs next time I buy. I'd love to help support this!
Monday just got so much better, welcome back!!
Good to see you back trash panda!
Very informative. Thank you Jesse you have open my eyes to what different plastics and molds entail in the process of making them. I had no idea. I live in the inland Northwest, and we don’t have anything locally that compares to what you have put down. I will be buying a couple of your new inner cores. I own two of the old ones and I’m curious what the future holds. Keep on being you. Huge props to yourself and your crew who keep pumping out amazing products with a small footprint.
Thank you 🖤
Mega Impressive, thanks for taking all of your time to produce this. As the director of the Flying Disc Museum, knowing how these things are built can provide additional insight. Thanks again!
Wow! So cool that you’re out here educating us, while educating yourself! Thanks for the update and the passion!
This was way cooler than I expected. Keep inspiring and doing great things!
As an ex Cincinnati Milicran Injection Molding Die Setter, and disc golf addict this video hits all my feels! I have years on these machines and spent my 20’s experimenting with them.
Super insightful thanks for taking the time to do this. There are actually a lot of parallels to the 3d printing process I didn't think about with disc manufacturing!
Just played my first round with the inner core and dune. Fantastic work!
This is the coolest thing ever. manufacturing is such a cool thing to me and I apprecitate you letting us see "how the susuage is made"!
I would love to see you talk about how companies are getting swirls and orbit rims. From the way you describe it, it seems like it would involve a totally different process or potentially introducing the heated plastic later in the 'screw' but it still feels like that wouldn't be at all possible with this current setup. Love what you are doing, glad you are back.
Best ever video on this topic! Even beyond How It's Made!
I am so happy For your new video I have had the notification's on waiting on on your new video Love your disks!
🙏🏻 thank you Jesse for sharing this awesome process. I’ve enjoyed following your journey from the garage to here. Best wishes to you and the crew going forward.
Amazing!
Thanks a lot for all the inside infos!!!
missed you Pandas!
as a guy whose dad is a machinist, this is all fascinating. keep it up Jesse!
I work for a Trash Panda dealer. We're so excited for the new stuff!
I work with extrusion molding machines, but it's a very similar process. Awesome video!
By far the coolest manufacturer in the industry
Outstanding video, can't wait to see the mold!
Your editing is so good now. I get distracted from the actual content in the video 😂
Let's gooooo! Welcome back to the light TP gang!
Sick video. I was doing maintenance at a plastic injection factory when I first found your page. Would be dope to work at a disc golf factory
This shows that everything is possible, if you're willing to put in the hard work.
Mind boggling! Very cool stuff you're doing. And I really like that toothpaste color!
So happy for you, great video. Keep going champ!
Welcome back 🎉
This is incredibly exciting, Jessie.
I loved this so much. What an amazing video. I may have to grab a Nocturnal Box because this was super interesting
Definitely just went and ordered me the nocturnal box. What a deal for a collector and player. Keep up the great work TP.
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
Let’s goooooooooo! I’ve been waiting for this - thanks for the update!!!
This is so so so amazing!!!
Great video. Need more of this.
I regret that I have but one like to give this video.
KYLE HARRIGAN SPOTTED
he’s basically my spirit animal
Great video! Great content always! Keep it up dude!
This is sick man!
That new logo hits different in a good way
I have quite a lot of experience of injection moulding and making a disc with center sprue is the simplest part by theory. If you use sensitive material like TPU you should consider a hopper drier directly on your machine, when you handle the material it starts to absorb moisture directly. Also make sure that you use a dry air unit and not a hot air unit, hot air units are good for simple materials like some ABS or PE and PP, but for TPU you need the low dew point that a dry air unit using dessicant drying. If you have questions you can ask me anything about the process.
Good to see your baby is alive and well. 👶
Fired up bro! Cant wait to see what the next chapter holds
Loved this content. I'm so interested in this stuff it's crazy 😅
New logo looks cool!
Yo way to reference Engineerguy! That's how I learned how this was done.
Metric system helps usa make golf discs. You love to see it.
Great video!
you're a legend!
Love the new logo!
I need an Ozone for the first day this snow melts here in Minnesota... I know you got em ready to go!! 😅
It's actually hilarious seeing you trying to balance on the pole of your original machine.
How do discs come out in different weights from the same mold and the same plastic type? Can the final weight be controlled in advance, or is it by chance?
So happy that y'all are back! I am curious about the multistage injection, is this how they make like the Halo blend for instance?
Another comment mentioned this, so we’ll likely talk about it in a future video. Short answer: it’s likely another machine modification altogether 👍
Cannot wait for the Ozone to release.
I'm absolutely baffled by the mixing of SI and old Imperial units in the machine's interface.
How is that even possible?
Seeing "mm" next to "PSI" makes my head want to explode.
Yea. It does do that. We still can’t finish the conversion to metric. 😂😂
I'm new to the Denver area and heads down on my own new recycling program/project. Can I buy you some coffee and pick your brain on your journey so far?
Would love a nocturnal box, but $80 box and $100 shipping, Australian dollars, kill that.
I love what you do, it's so good to see the effort you go to, to make our sport sustainable, just wish you were more accessible over here
Tick Tock ... Time for the Nocturnal Collective to Rise and Thrive. :KYLEYEAH:
and wait till u have to mold peek 😬
sick vid!
I just wannna see some asmr footage of you pumping out as many disks as you can in 5 minutes.
i started 3d printing discs with tpu and now they don’t explode like pla did! wahoo!
You mentioned the inconsistencies of recycled plastic... have you found a "happy medium" process for a given mold and range of plastic(s) or are you constantly tweaking from batch to batch?
Your reaction to looking at the IM machine on the truck says it all. Keep doin' what Trash Panda does best. How much does color effect the process?
Enough for a whole future video 😆
I would love to know about the removal of the disc / stripper plate process. I know some manufacturers talk about certain molds are harder to extract than others making it where they don’t run them in all plastics - I’ve never understood why that happens.
Noted!
Ordered!
There's a few simulation software packages specifically for injection molding that helps you figure out the hardest bits; basically controlling the shot size, material flow rate and how the mold will fill up with specific polymers (and a whole lot more). Solidworks Plastic is arguably the industry standard, though there's a few stand-alone packages also which cost even more than Solidworks, surprisingly. I'd have to check my bookmarks to list alternatives, though I wouldn't be surprised if Siemens has something for SolidEdge or a stand-alone also.
When you got some experience its actually much quicker to just do it by hand..
@@karaffens Ehh, I would say that largely depends on complexity. If you have a simple shape with no complications, sure. On the flip side, a lot of the objects I deal with have to be exact as it ultimately may teeter on a life dependency, in which case, those precious microns being where they need to be matters.
@@C-M-E still experience beat simulations, Ive done injection moulding for two decades and work with people doing it for over 35 years and done a lot of work people writing books in the subject. I have experience in medical device, automotive, technical, electronics and so on. In the end simulations are just simulations and experience and knowledge is what you really use.
@@karaffens That's a nice set of accolades, but imagine if you were just starting out or were working solo on a new injection project. You'd have to read some books, invest a bit of time, materials and probably precious working capital making mistakes. Or as a tool on your future belt, it's much cheaper to make digital mistakes on a path to better understanding and as you put it, gaining experience. I'm not saying right or wrong, just offering a second point of view and alternatives for others so inclined.
Very cool
This is great, Jesse! Do you think yall would make a table with some concaved surfaces to let the disc cool and get some dome?
We’ve talked about this very test! Will report back.
I've got a question. With the injector, how hard is it to embed something inside the disc. Let's say I want to puy a coin inside the disc, directly in the middle. Or perhaps something inside the rim.. Do you think it's doable?
Need some more OS molds for us at sea level. I can only hyzer-flip my dunes and inner cores so much 😂
At RPM they found recycling TPU into discs is not great as It results in shorter disc lifespans. And even though they carefully retained all their 2nds, they had no way to use them. And then they started producing the Weta Mini. And of course a mini doesn't suffer the extreme life of a heavy thrown disc, and so they are now using their big stash of seconds to mould their minis, with zero cost for plastic - except chopping and drying.
Have you thrown Trash Panda yet? I’ve put my Inner Core (1.5 yrs) and Dune (9 months) through the wringer (including hitting a lot of trees 😢) and they are holding up great!
This is far from our experience but we’re going to actually put it to the test in a coming video 👍
As someone who works with presses and dies, watching you put your hands in there is terrifying!
There are three safety sensors (electric, mechanical and air) that all register when the door is open and closed. If one trips, the machine won’t run.
Good video.
It's just enough info so people can understand more how things work and stop making up just crazy random things like they do when they dont know anything about injection molding.
Any updates on the "Ozone"?
Jesse, watching this video I can't help but think about how an espresso machine works. Please look into doing a collaboration with James Hoffman. His passion exploring the "process" may rival yours.
Very interesting!! Do you guys run that beast of a machine off solar and wind?
Not at the moment, but we hope to in the future! The machine we got is more conservative on energy usage than many out there though 👍
How do you change weights?
So cool
Congrats.
Can you guys share your engineer drawings of the discs ?
Any idea yet how they get swirls in the plastic? Swirly ozones??!?!
Respect!
I'm really curious if the process parameters are chosen through trial and error or if something like Moldex3D is used to help refine the process?
Trial and error at the moment 👍 This is due in large part to our recycled feedstock being variable.
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf Thanks for the response! I've ordered the Nocturnal box to learn more about your process. Keep living the dream!
Would love to see y’all do a collaboration with Destin from smarter every day.
Freaking awesome