I'm NOT going to pretend that I'm at all an authority on this music, but I can understand its basics, to a degree. I seem to gravitate to music I don't necessarily UNDERSTAND, and enjoy it nonetheless! This piece falls into that category. Wonderful. Beautiful. DREAM-evoking!
WOW...GOOD for you! This music makes me want to confront & sometimes remember my dreams, AND nightmares. I LOVE dreams and nightmares. After a nightmare, you wake up...and ALL IS WELL.
his music always sounds to me, and i mean this in a very sincere and unjokingly manner, like the music written by someone who had half their face blown off. sometimes people of immense greatness die but fail to actually die due to their greatness not yet happening. this music always makes me think of that. listening to this i find it amazing that it existed in his mind before it was introduced to our ears via musicians. i feel like after listening to xenakis, nothing else sounds the same as it did before.
recently tried this as love-making music. wife veto’d it immediately. i’d preemptively prepared bullet-point defences about why i felt it was important in our sex life to embrace serious western art music as a reflection of our dedication to each other. this too, unfortunately, was met with resistance.
...too bad... I wouldn't want to think your wife was closed-minded (I don't know!), but it's possible that this might have been distracting to her, and I might agree... GOOD TRY, though.
I have Anemoessa on a festival box set, it's an amazing Xenakis work! I am an obsessive fanatic with Xenakis though haha, so I've heard and/or nearly everything available!! Thanks though sir, I haven't listened to that in a little while..
Hi, John, it would be possible that you can rip that recording of Anemoessa you have and send it to me? I downloaded it from the video but the quality is awful. If you can't do it, no problem. Thanks!
Easily my favorite as well, though I have to say the performance from Fedor Lednev and Mikhail Dubov outranks even the magnificence of this recording for me.
indeed, how nice it'd be if people posted the names of the performers. do uploaders think the tons of hours of practice and rehearsal that go into playing this kind of music aren't noteworthy?
Don't know that I've listened to Zimmer but the "movie" guys are well known for that reason and that reason only. On their own I dont think they even begin to rank as true masters.
An exhilarating piece to hear... Must be exhausting to play! I can just see the conductor dressed like a coach and saying: "Pick up those bows, ladies. Piano, this is a marathon LET'S GO!"
I also enjoy the concert performance of Synaphai filmed in Japan. It's not just the music that is so great; it is stunning to actually watch the performers battling to get it all right.
I had a mate years ago who had an argument with Xenakis about his esoteric notations which had to be learned anew for each piece - Iannis didn`t care how hard the musicians had to work apparently and my friend used to not look forward to learning his music but liked it and was quite taken aback when I told him that Iannis had died. I also had a book of interviews with Iannis which I unfortunately lost but from it there is still a strong sense of what a near death battlefield injury experience is like. You can hear that here I think. perhaps ; a mythology of pain etc
To add to video description above: for piano and 92-piece orchestra (4 flutes, 4 oboes, 4 clarinets in B-flat, 4 bassoons, 4 French horns in F, 4 trumpets in C, 4 trombones, tuba, harp, timpani, a percussion section consisting of 2 bongos, 3 tom-toms, and bass drum, and a large string section consisting of 16 first violins, 14 second violins, 12 violas, 10 cellos, and 8 double basses) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keqrops
this is what ... song folly and noise brashness kinkles of crisp cracks in soundishness.... it does now no good but I like it!! never forget. ever. ===
I've just discovered another most interesting work on UA-cam: the Universe symphony by Fazil Say. If you don't know it, please give it a try. It also has excellent video of the orchestra performing.
@@mariegrevor1018 Je dirai l'évidence - ce n'est pas Bach :) Mais c'est une musique fondamentalement différente En conséquence, sa perception doit être abordée différemment La créativité de Xenakis, à mon avis, n'a pas la reconnaissance et la couverture appropriées Il s'agit d'un travail spécifique pour la première connaissance de la créativité de Xenakis peut être difficile à percevoir Et je conseille Oresteia et son travail pour les percussions (Rebonds et Pléiades notamment). (sorry for my terrible French, I used google translate)
Understood, to a point: there's LOTS of music I don't understand...some of it falls short, some of it is incredible. To ME, this piece is fantastic, even though it's not my favorite, by Xenakis.
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I'm NOT going to pretend that I'm at all an authority on this music, but I can understand its basics, to a degree. I seem to gravitate to music I don't necessarily UNDERSTAND, and enjoy it nonetheless! This piece falls into that category. Wonderful. Beautiful. DREAM-evoking!
Confession: i fell asleep listening to elliott carter. And i wake up listening to Xenakkis, who im not that familiar with. Good stuff. Big time.
Carter is also great!
WOW...GOOD for you! This music makes me want to confront & sometimes remember my dreams, AND nightmares. I LOVE dreams and nightmares. After a nightmare, you wake up...and ALL IS WELL.
his music always sounds to me, and i mean this in a very sincere and unjokingly manner, like the music written by someone who had half their face blown off. sometimes people of immense greatness die but fail to actually die due to their greatness not yet happening. this music always makes me think of that. listening to this i find it amazing that it existed in his mind before it was introduced to our ears via musicians. i feel like after listening to xenakis, nothing else sounds the same as it did before.
Indians jones temple of doom music
agree!
The greatness only touch people fragile1🙏🙏🙏
HONEST assessment; thanks!
C'est la profondeur d'une musique céleste.
I heartily agree. Music needs IMAGINATION, in my opinion. Xenakis' works possessed it, in spades.
Xenakis is rocking my world right now. If someone did a box set of his complete works, I'd go for it
Same for me
DITTO!
Xenakis is always my favorite composer! no competition!
why its your favorite composer?
@@pergamos6 because it good very good
I couldn’t agree more @John Appleseed! His compositions are a work of genius in my humble opinion - one of the masters of the 20th century
I don't know that I could nail down ONE favorite, but Xenakis, Stockhausen, and Carter are likely highest on the list (!)
so good!
damn it is awesome.........i just knew master piece now
recently tried this as love-making music. wife veto’d it immediately. i’d preemptively prepared bullet-point defences about why i felt it was important in our sex life to embrace serious western art music as a reflection of our dedication to each other. this too, unfortunately, was met with resistance.
Lol.
resistance is life
...too bad... I wouldn't want to think your wife was closed-minded (I don't know!), but it's possible that this might have been distracting to her, and I might agree... GOOD TRY, though.
Μ' όλα τα μάτια της κοιτά η πλάση το Ανοιχτό.
MIT allen Augen sieht die Kreatur das Offene.
RILKE
My favourites Xenakis work at the moment now!
ua-cam.com/video/ZH0ss-cIigk/v-deo.html check this out
I have Anemoessa on a festival box set, it's an amazing Xenakis work! I am an obsessive fanatic with Xenakis though haha, so I've heard and/or nearly everything available!! Thanks though sir, I haven't listened to that in a little while..
Hi, John, it would be possible that you can rip that recording of Anemoessa you have and send it to me? I downloaded it from the video but the quality is awful. If you can't do it, no problem. Thanks!
Easily my favorite as well, though I have to say the performance from Fedor Lednev and Mikhail Dubov outranks even the magnificence of this recording for me.
One of my favorite works by Xenakis 👍 Thanks.
my favourite lullaby
Thank you. Score goes like this ||: X :|| 👍
Absolutely fabulous piece! Truly great music and playing!
indeed, how nice it'd be if people posted the names of the performers. do uploaders think the tons of hours of practice and rehearsal that go into playing this kind of music aren't noteworthy?
It might, but there is neither irrationality nor madness in this extraordinary music for those with ears to hear.
M A Y B E madness... not a barrier; but NO irrationality, with which I agree.
First thing that popped into my head when it started: Take THAT Hans Zimmer bwaamm!
It's like the difference between a lightbulb (Zimmer) and a supernova (Xenakis).
BONZO was my first thought
Don't know that I've listened to Zimmer but the "movie" guys are well known for that reason and that reason only. On their own I dont think they even begin to rank as true masters.
This is when Batman gets choked to death by Joker.
Wonderful. Much less extramusical, very much a "traditional" piece of modern music.
omg this is awesome
An exhilarating piece to hear...
Must be exhausting to play!
I can just see the conductor dressed like a coach and saying:
"Pick up those bows, ladies. Piano, this is a marathon LET'S GO!"
Wow. Yes. Agreed!
I also enjoy the concert performance of Synaphai filmed in Japan. It's not just the music that is so great; it is stunning to actually watch the performers battling to get it all right.
I had a mate years ago who had an argument with Xenakis about his esoteric notations which had to be learned anew for each piece - Iannis didn`t care how hard the musicians had to work apparently and my friend used to not look forward to learning his music but liked it and was quite taken aback when I told him that Iannis had died. I also had a book of interviews with Iannis which I unfortunately lost but from it there is still a strong sense of what a near death battlefield injury experience is like. You can hear that here I think. perhaps ; a mythology of pain etc
"esoteric" notations???
Musicians MUST be really challenged to play this music. Imagine COMPOSING it; seems it would be 4-5X the difficult task, which Xenakis embraced(!)
To add to video description above:
for piano and 92-piece orchestra (4 flutes, 4 oboes, 4 clarinets in B-flat, 4 bassoons, 4 French horns in F, 4 trumpets in C, 4 trombones, tuba, harp, timpani, a percussion section consisting of 2 bongos, 3 tom-toms, and bass drum, and a large string section consisting of 16 first violins, 14 second violins, 12 violas, 10 cellos, and 8 double basses)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keqrops
Thanks for your acomplishment
Cool. THANKS. 🙂👍
I'm cheking it out... It's breathtaking, man. Thanks!!
This is the villain music you want.
Me ha cambiado totalmente la vida.
Arriba España hostia.
Ok
@@GUILLOM oqei
Understood your first statement. Maybe not the second, though.
this is what ... song folly and noise brashness kinkles of crisp cracks in soundishness.... it does now no good but I like it!! never forget. ever. ===
I've just discovered another most interesting work on UA-cam: the Universe symphony by Fazil Say. If you don't know it, please give it a try. It also has excellent video of the orchestra performing.
NEVER heard of him! Therefore, I'll give it a shot!
This is something I would hear if I was watching a scary sci-fi movie.
WHY add the sci-fi movie (!?)
2:19 loved this part
Thanks for uploading! Who are the performers?
Have you seen the score of Synaphai? Someone told me the piano part is written on ten staves, one for each finger... Wouldn't surprise me.
Yup, can confirm.
only a few passages-- not the entire piece, though.
YIKES. You're kidding...I hope.
Great!
When reason fails, it might not be intuition that takes over, but madness instead!
so much noise!! i love it
good
Luciano Berrio ,
Tony villodas,Cage
Xenakis...they"re all real noisy and good.
Agreed. Noisy and good, but most importantly: S O N I C
yea BOI
post the performers' names.
I think the pianist hit a wrong note at measure 256
This sounds like it has some material in common with Evryali and Akea- I wonder if that is deliberate, or just a kind of aural illusion
one of the cool things about Xenakis is that he occasionally references his own works by reusing fragments of ideas. Pretty awesome if you ask me :)
anyone else feel like they're about to see an episode of One Piece at 4:12 - 4:25
Thumbs up if your parents left these types of discs lying around.
Successor to Stravinsky
Malgré mes efforts, je ne comprends pas cette musique. Ce que je ressens est de l'angoisse.
C''est insupportable et complètement névrosé.
Une horreur!
А я без ума от его музыки
@@quite1enough
Et alors?
Je n'aime pas, je n'aime pas.
C'est tout. J'ai tout de même fait l'effort de m' y intéresser.
Bien à vous
@@mariegrevor1018 Je dirai l'évidence - ce n'est pas Bach :)
Mais c'est une musique fondamentalement différente
En conséquence, sa perception doit être abordée différemment
La créativité de Xenakis, à mon avis, n'a pas la reconnaissance et la couverture appropriées
Il s'agit d'un travail spécifique pour la première connaissance de la créativité de Xenakis peut être difficile à percevoir
Et je conseille Oresteia et son travail pour les percussions (Rebonds et Pléiades notamment).
(sorry for my terrible French, I used google translate)
Understood, to a point: there's LOTS of music I don't understand...some of it falls short, some of it is incredible. To ME, this piece is fantastic, even though it's not my favorite, by Xenakis.
No other option than to build up on this kind o music. Anything else is now just boring for me.