Something that goes often missing in conversations in this era is how these guys had to work so hard to get their shots off. His shooting percentage for that style of play is very impressive
What are you talking about? We’re looking at the same videos. The defense was 💩 they’re just running at him with both hands up. The myopic romanticism gotta stop 😂
@@timboslice8559 I’m not trolling at all. Look at the video or actual games (not just highlights of fights) from the era. Sorry nostalgia =/ reality, friend.
I generally consider myself to be a nerd about history and sports history, but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of this player. Thank you for teaching me new things!
Don't feel bad Broski this the time I've seen him profiled anytime. ESPN, The show with Amad Rashad any show I've never seen him talked about. Salute to Mr. Denver
I absolutely remember this guy when I was a kid, and he was absolutely deadly from outside. I cannot argue with this assessment from Jordan. He gave the Celtics fits every time we played them.
He was one of my hero's as a kid. I was a diehard South Carolina fan and he was one of their best ever,along with Alex English,Kevin Joyce,Mike Dunleavy,and John Roche. Frank McGuire had some great teams.
I'm from Brooklyn, I use to read about Joyce and Winters in the Long Island Press and followed the rest of the guys on your list on McGuire's SC teams.
I never say this...but I'm so glad you made this video. Brian was a fantastic player, very underappreciated. Back then it was much more physical. I can see him putting up 30ppg today.
I'm 55. I hadn't thought about Brian Winters in ages. He used to kill the 76ers, when he was on the Bucks. It seemed like he never missed. I used to hate him.
This is absolutely right. Many years ago I saw Winters torch the San Antonio Spurs of the Iceman Era with the greatest exhibition of shooting I have ever seen.
All the guys here saying they never heard of him are making me feel old. I followed Winters from high school, thru his time at South Carolina, and then his NBA career - wonderful player.
That era and style of play was what made the nba. Today's game is too hard to watch, carries , ghost fouls and "gathering" makes me want to puke. Who's the best team? The one Vegas can win the most money on winning .
Went to Molloy in same class with Joyce, Winters was 1 year later. In the NYC championship game, Molloy beat Power with Winters going something like 10 for 11 from the field. Awesome shooter, no doubt.
The Don Nelson era Bucks were fantastic. Winters, Moncrief, Bridgeman, Johnson, Buckner and more, mixed with relatively washed big men. They got close wining the Division for something like 8-straight times.
I’m from Columbia, SC and am a South Carolina grad - and grew up watching those Gamecock teams under coaching legend Frank McGuire (Wilt Chamberlain’s favorite coach, btw). Winters was great at South Carolina- the Gamecocks were still pretty loaded in those early 70s years. And I was also a huge Lakers fan thanks to the Chamberlain/West teams … and in the early 80s those Bucks teams were awesome. They gave the Lakers fits every time they played … and I’m glad the Lakers never had to face them in a Finals!
I remember Jerry West correcting Bob Lanier about Brian Winters when Lanier said Winters wasn't much of a player. West immediately said Winters is a fantastic shooter. Lanier didn't say another word.
@@randysandberg5615 Winters was a buck 75-76. West was working for the lakers and then became coach in 76. There is no record of him being a broadcaster.
Brian Winters was DEADLY. I forgot all about him. He use to kill The Bulls. I remember Jerry Sloan and Van Lier took turns guarding him. They couldn't stop him
I saw a NBA exhibition doubleheaded in Oakland in '74. Four West coast teams played. Lakers, G-State (Barry), Portland (Walton) and Seattle. Winters was the standout. Boy could that guy shoot a basketball.
I grew up in Denver watching the Nuggets in the 70's and early 80's. I remember watching Brian Winters on the Bucs and he always could get the bucket when needed. He was one of the best shooting guards at that time, and his form was almost perfection. I hated seeing him play the Nuggets because he would usually steal the game somehow for the Bucs. Solid all around player and played with a lot of heart and hustle. Great tribute to this "silent assassin" on the court.
It’s interesting to hear about certain player turned coaches. 90s kid grew up watching Raptors and Grizzlies since inaugural season. I only knew him as a horrible coach till now. Good video 👍
Lakers gave him up for Kareem, along with Junior Bridgeman and Marques Johnson. As good as Winters was, brining Kareem to Los Angeles was The Greatest Trade in Lakers History!
I would argue that trading Gale Goodrich to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a future No. 1 pick -- it turned out to be the No,. 1 pick in the draft, which the Lakers used on Magic Johsnon -- was the greatest trade in Lakers history.
The Bucks team with Laneer is the greatest team to not win a title in my opinion. They had the misfortune of legendary 76ers and Celtics teams as competition. I had no idea he went to the bucks via the kareem trade! I was a huge fan of his, but didn’t know most of his career was before I was a real fan! Thanks!
70s NBA was obscure! Before my time but if you weren't in Milwaukee the only time you would have seen this guy would have been his All Star appearances.
Winters form had a higher release than modern players, it was very similar to Larry Bird's. Modern players often times start their release of the ball someone near their eyebrow.
Sam Hauser of the Celtics has the most beautiful shot I've ever seen. It's actually surprising when a shot doesn't go in with barely a ripple of the net.
Grew up watching winters and the rest of the Bucks. And just down the road from one of the owners, Wes Pavilion. And near their practice facility at U school. Nelly really understood how to free him up using screens and staggers. But, the best part was that Winters never dunked. Breakaway…layup. I distinctly remember a reporter asking him about this and he said it was to conserve energy. Lol
truth be told, and I mean all over the court and variety of shotmaking, it's probably drazen petrovic and larry bird, with steph as the best 3 ball guy
Somew of the highlights are anachronistic. 5:00 is supposed to be from 1977-78 but it has a 3-point line, which wasn't adopted until 1979-80. I guess it wasn't easy to get game film from that era.
Maravich and West(the logo) belong in there somewhere; those dudes could shute from anywhere or almost anywhere; plus, they could shaht a very high % and were scorers like Jordan as well at their best...BUT DUDE'S A SUPER PLAYER, THOUGH!
Brian Winters could be an impeccable shooter (if you don't believe me go watch the full three-overtime 1982 game against the Spurs on YT, but it always bothered me that he wasn't as consistent of a shooter as Marques Johnson and Junior Bridgeman. Winters had better range but if I had two seconds on the clock, I'd take Bridgeman or Johnson because of their consistency. That early-80s Bucks team was filled with great shooters.
The buck switched from.the west to Eastern conference in this time with the bucks. Plus he ate at Burger King on road trips to Piscataway back in the day
AWESOME. shooter Quinn. Bruckner said. Winters was. A. Better. Shooter than. Larry. Bird I. Agree. Really. Enjoyed him. As a. Bucks. Fan. Thanks for. This
In an era of mid range jump shooting, Brian Winters and Jeff Hornacek are the two most automatic jump shooters that I’ve ever seen. If you left them open under 20 ft from the basket, it was two points. Apologies to Steph Curry and Ray Allen.
The game was different - better - then. Because it required a stricter adherence to the rules. Teams ran plays and the best to execute was the best. But the more strict rule-calling meant the game was more mental than it is now. Today the only thing is physical athleticism and the mental aspect of the game is much less favored by the sport. That makes the game much less interesting to watch to me.
Something that goes often missing in conversations in this era is how these guys had to work so hard to get their shots off. His shooting percentage for that style of play is very impressive
What are you talking about? We’re looking at the same videos. The defense was 💩 they’re just running at him with both hands up. The myopic romanticism gotta stop 😂
@@Kindafuyour profile pic says it all troll
@@timboslice8559 I’m not trolling at all. Look at the video or actual games (not just highlights of fights) from the era. Sorry nostalgia =/ reality, friend.
That and the handle had to be more stiff and precise just because of how the game was called.
@@PharaohsNews exactly, and this is very much what I was referring to with how it was harder to get shots off.
I generally consider myself to be a nerd about history and sports history, but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of this player. Thank you for teaching me new things!
Don't feel bad Broski this the time I've seen him profiled anytime. ESPN, The show with Amad Rashad any show I've never seen him talked about. Salute to Mr. Denver
Always glad to help someone learn about a players career!
Considering he never averaged 20 points or shot 50% in a season he is well worth not knowing of, lol.
nerd
Me too, never heard of this guy👍
7:37 Downtown Freddie Brown sighting. He and Winters had sweet jump shots.
supersonic fan?
I absolutely remember this guy when I was a kid, and he was absolutely deadly from outside. I cannot argue with this assessment from Jordan. He gave the Celtics fits every time we played them.
He was one of my hero's as a kid. I was a diehard South Carolina fan and he was one of their best ever,along with Alex English,Kevin Joyce,Mike Dunleavy,and John Roche. Frank McGuire had some great teams.
I'm from Brooklyn, I use to read about Joyce and Winters in the Long Island Press and followed the rest of the guys on your list on McGuire's SC teams.
I never say this...but I'm so glad you made this video. Brian was a fantastic player, very underappreciated. Back then it was much more physical. I can see him putting up 30ppg today.
He’s probably too old
I'm 55. I hadn't thought about Brian Winters in ages. He used to kill the 76ers, when he was on the Bucks. It seemed like he never missed. I used to hate him.
This is absolutely right. Many years ago I saw Winters torch the San Antonio Spurs of the Iceman Era with the greatest exhibition of shooting I have ever seen.
This is the first I'm hearing of Brian Winters ty Skid!
Another reason UA-cam is great, finding out about players you’ve never heard of
Lifelong Milwaukee resident
Saw A LOT of him during his career
He could really fill it up
He had a SWEET stroke
Textbook
Definitely not textbook. He's got the Larry bird catapult.
All the guys here saying they never heard of him are making me feel old. I followed Winters from high school, thru his time at South Carolina, and then his NBA career - wonderful player.
The fact that so many commenters admit having never heard of Winters explains why so many of them believe Ja or Melo are gods.
That era and style of play was what made the nba. Today's game is too hard to watch, carries , ghost fouls and "gathering" makes me want to puke. Who's the best team? The one Vegas can win the most money on winning .
I follow basketball for over 30 years and for some reason, never heard of this guy, cool video
Maybe because his prime was 40-45 years ago.
You should bc he's one of the reason, why Kareem Abdul Jabbar is a Laker!
Remember watching him on tv circa 1980 and thinking what a great stroke he had and at 6'4" smooth and able to get it off.
Went to Molloy in same class with Joyce, Winters was 1 year later. In the NYC championship game, Molloy beat Power with Winters going something like 10 for 11 from the field. Awesome shooter, no doubt.
Wow never heard of him. Thank you!
The Don Nelson era Bucks were fantastic. Winters, Moncrief, Bridgeman, Johnson, Buckner and more, mixed with relatively washed big men. They got close wining the Division for something like 8-straight times.
I’m from Columbia, SC and am a South Carolina grad - and grew up watching those Gamecock teams under coaching legend Frank McGuire (Wilt Chamberlain’s favorite coach, btw). Winters was great at South Carolina- the Gamecocks were still pretty loaded in those early 70s years. And I was also a huge Lakers fan thanks to the Chamberlain/West teams … and in the early 80s those Bucks teams were awesome. They gave the Lakers fits every time they played … and I’m glad the Lakers never had to face them in a Finals!
Very good subject for a video. Underrated player. Excellent job!
I remember Jerry West correcting Bob Lanier about Brian Winters when Lanier said Winters wasn't much of a player. West immediately said Winters is a fantastic shooter. Lanier didn't say another word.
When and why was Lanier commenting on Winters?
This makes no sense as Winters was on the all rookie team and was an all star the follow season.
@@jamespohl-md2eq It was either before an NBA game or at halftime and West was interviewing Lanier. You're correct though. It doesn't make sense.
@@randysandberg5615 I’ve never seen West as a broadcaster. There is no source for that.
@@jamespohl-md2eq It was probably 1974 or 1975. It was the same time when Winters was traded from the Lakers to the Bucks.
@@randysandberg5615 Winters was a buck 75-76. West was working for the lakers and then became coach in 76.
There is no record of him being a broadcaster.
Another great episode.
Brian Winters was DEADLY. I forgot all about him. He use to kill The Bulls. I remember Jerry Sloan and Van Lier took turns guarding him. They couldn't stop him
Thanks for this, remember Brian Winters very well, great player, did not know he was from Rockaway, New York 🏀👏
The Winters were my neighbors in Rockaway Beach. A fine family!
Brian was our neighborhood hero!
I had totally forgotten him. Looking back though, Winters could score in bunches. Great shooter.
He had a no-nonsense game.😊
I saw a NBA exhibition doubleheaded in Oakland in '74. Four West coast teams played. Lakers, G-State (Barry), Portland (Walton) and Seattle. Winters was the standout. Boy could that guy shoot a basketball.
I grew up in Denver watching the Nuggets in the 70's and early 80's. I remember watching Brian Winters on the Bucs and he always could get the bucket when needed. He was one of the best shooting guards at that time, and his form was almost perfection. I hated seeing him play the Nuggets because he would usually steal the game somehow for the Bucs.
Solid all around player and played with a lot of heart and hustle. Great tribute to this "silent assassin" on the court.
Nuggets fan here with the same perspective
Winters , one of the forgotten impact players ...smooth and modest ..and yet made such an impact in Milwaukee
Fascinating. I really only have surface knowledge from this era back. Never heard of this player. Great video my friend.
Love hearing about players I didnt really know much about good video
I thought I knew a thing or two about NBA history but somehow had no idea about this guy.
Winters and Fred Brown were nice in the ‘70’s. Lot of people slept on Dale Ellis in the ‘80’s.
Damn the Bucks got some unbelievable hard matchups as the 2 sees. Suns. Nuggets. Sonics. 76ers & Celtics. Wow. WTF !!!
Brian was really good. Really smooth.
Byron Scott would be a great one to cover if you haven’t already!
I remember Winters, and he was indeed dangerous.
Brian Winters was super!! Pure!
Jack Curran Molloy high school Queens
That small, with that shooting percentage? Very impressive.
Six four wasn’t that small
THANKS for the information
Spent a lot time at the old Boston garden watching the 1981 to 1988 celtics..I remember this dude he could shoooooot the lights out. 🌈
Yo dude was nice !!!!!!!!!!!
He also sang lead for The Doobie Brothers.
Hey, that was my anticipated joke.
Ya MO No Think So....
@@marshallandrew1192 you mean ' yama be there' ?
.....and later for the Alabama band
I haven't watched the video yet but I'm excited too. I've never heard of this guy.
Great shooter, amazing. Let's also consider Scott Wedman?
It’s interesting to hear about certain player turned coaches.
90s kid grew up watching Raptors and Grizzlies since inaugural season. I only knew him as a horrible coach till now.
Good video 👍
Lakers gave him up for Kareem, along with Junior Bridgeman and Marques Johnson. As good as Winters was, brining Kareem to Los Angeles was The Greatest Trade in Lakers History!
Marques Johnson wasn't involved in that trade. It was Elmore Smith and Dave Myers.
@@urbangorilla33
Marques Johnson was drafted by the Bucks with the Draft Picks the Lakers also gave them for Kareem.
@@Jiltedin2007 No, that pick was acquired for Swen Nater.
I would argue that trading Gale Goodrich to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a future No. 1 pick -- it turned out to be the No,. 1 pick in the draft, which the Lakers used on Magic Johsnon -- was the greatest trade in Lakers history.
@@MarkMay-cr6bv Yeah, that worked out pretty well. There was also the trade sending Don Ford to Cleveland for the draft pick that netted James Worthy.
Bucks traded Kareem for Winters, Junior Bridgman, Smith and Myers. The trade that helped make the Lakers team an icon.
And Kareem evidently was worth 5 fewer first round picks than the Rudy Gobert.
The Bucks team with Laneer is the greatest team to not win a title in my opinion. They had the misfortune of legendary 76ers and Celtics teams as competition. I had no idea he went to the bucks via the kareem trade! I was a huge fan of his, but didn’t know most of his career was before I was a real fan! Thanks!
3:50 why he taking fastbreak long 2s , he changed the game
I remember thinking that all cool white dudes looked like this bc him & Michael McDonald 😂
70s NBA was obscure! Before my time but if you weren't in Milwaukee the only time you would have seen this guy would have been his All Star appearances.
Winters form had a higher release than modern players, it was very similar to Larry Bird's. Modern players often times start their release of the ball someone near their eyebrow.
Sam Hauser of the Celtics has the most beautiful shot I've ever seen. It's actually surprising when a shot doesn't go in with barely a ripple of the net.
Grew up watching winters and the rest of the Bucks. And just down the road from one of the owners, Wes Pavilion.
And near their practice facility at U school.
Nelly really understood how to free him up using screens and staggers.
But, the best part was that Winters never dunked. Breakaway…layup. I distinctly remember a reporter asking him about this and he said it was to conserve energy. Lol
Thanks
Hey how about another pure shooter Kiki Vandeweghe!!!?
Kiki actually was a pure shooter, this guy is not. Comparing the two shooting percentage is laughable.
How, as a Milwaukee resident, did I never hear of him?!?
A South Carolina Gamecock ! My school . We have produced many great players !
I was in this Era of Brian Winters .
He always reminded me of the Doobie Brothers lead singer Michael McDonald
truth be told, and I mean all over the court and variety of shotmaking, it's probably drazen petrovic and larry bird, with steph as the best 3 ball guy
Great episode. Have you done one on Alex English yet?
Jon McLoughlin could shoot hell out of it!
To bad the actual NBA appears to hate its history. Excellent video
Somew of the highlights are anachronistic. 5:00 is supposed to be from 1977-78 but it has a 3-point line, which wasn't adopted until 1979-80. I guess it wasn't easy to get game film from that era.
Tim Kurkjian narrates old school basketball highlight videos during MLB offseason.
Maravich and West(the logo) belong in there somewhere; those dudes could shute from anywhere or almost anywhere; plus, they could shaht a very high % and were scorers like Jordan as well at their best...BUT DUDE'S A SUPER PLAYER, THOUGH!
Brian Winters could be an impeccable shooter (if you don't believe me go watch the full three-overtime 1982 game against the Spurs on YT, but it always bothered me that he wasn't as consistent of a shooter as Marques Johnson and Junior Bridgeman. Winters had better range but if I had two seconds on the clock, I'd take Bridgeman or Johnson because of their consistency. That early-80s Bucks team was filled with great shooters.
Great ahooter
Dave cowens next
wow, I'd never heard of him. Definitely the best bearded white player I've ever seen.
Brian Winters played during the time of Pistol Pete
the Michael McDonald of hoops!!
I had forgotten Brian.
Reminds me of Jamie jaquez jr
For me the best pure shooter i ever saw Jerry West.
The buck switched from.the west to Eastern conference in this time with the bucks. Plus he ate at Burger King on road trips to Piscataway back in the day
His son Brendan was a very good player at Davidson prior to Steph.
Winters from Rockaway, Joyce from Long Beach, Ny pretty sure
Brian was definitely from Rockaway. He was my neighbor.
Okay I see u .
he was great with the bucks.
The Winter is coming 😂😂😂
AWESOME. shooter Quinn. Bruckner said. Winters was. A. Better. Shooter than. Larry. Bird I. Agree. Really. Enjoyed him. As a. Bucks. Fan. Thanks for. This
How is it that I never heard of this guy?
You should do the Whopper
I use the same shooting form. it's similar to magic johnson's shooting form
Based on his wrist...his special interest was shooting.
Love your videos
Some possible subjects...
Tree Rollins
Jeff Ruland
Dennis Scott
Michael Cage
Sam Perkins
Alvin Adams
Reggie Theus
Orlando Woolridge
In an era of mid range jump shooting, Brian Winters and Jeff Hornacek are the two most automatic jump shooters that I’ve ever seen. If you left them open under 20 ft from the basket, it was two points. Apologies to Steph Curry and Ray Allen.
Why do you pronounce it "Mar-kez" Johnson?
Phil Chenier was as pure as it gets
Winters. Was. Mr Clutch In. The. 80s the Steph. Curry. Of his era
Michael Jordan never played against Winters.
Other 2 great pure shooters who come to mind: Del Curry and Jeff Hornacek.
Here because of Jordan.
The game was different - better - then. Because it required a stricter adherence to the rules. Teams ran plays and the best to execute was the best. But the more strict rule-calling meant the game was more mental than it is now. Today the only thing is physical athleticism and the mental aspect of the game is much less favored by the sport. That makes the game much less interesting to watch to me.
He was also pre magnet.
Yup, Winters was a SCORER! Like Melo.