To address the multiple comments on the subject: At one point in the video I refer back to a point I've brought up multiple times that Imu backwards is Umi which in Japanese, refers the sea, I misspoke in this video and said water while speaking about water lilys. I know mizu means water, thanks guys!
Small tinfoil hat here: If Sai goes to Impel Down, Baby 5 is going with the grand fleet to get her husband. This sets her up to spring Doffy. He knows she will do what he asks because he is in need and she will be “useful” .
Hearing the love sickness angle, it would be pretty funny if Lily is Imu, she became infatuated with Joy Boy, but he had no interest just like Luffy with Boa. Almost like a bad timeline version of Handcock. Amazon Lily founded by those who followed her before she went crazy. The letter simply reads... My Joy Boy died, down with the D clan who stole his heart, guess I've just got to rule the world instead, going to wait for him to re-incarnate. So many fun possibilities for the void century!
Randy: I don’t think Lili could be evil enough to be Imu Also Randy: I wish Vivi was the person to beat up a CD, thus get her entire family and friends killed and a country nuked
Something to remember about the Cobra and Robin conversation: Cobra says he is protecting the rock for some reason and Robin straight up does not believe him that it is for good. Betting somehow Robin is going to be right.
I could see Amazon Lily being founded by followers of Queen Lily, who after she was maybe killed by Imu hated all men afterwards and they also needed some isolated place where the enemies of their former Queen wouldn't be able to arrive, since Amazon Lily is in the Calm Belt and it was pretty difficult to get there until only recently.
Fresh water apparently still has a weakening effect on DF users. Not only has it been said any kind of liquid weakens them, but even if you don’t take that as fact then Luffy and Big Mom both weakened in the fresh water around Wano.
Just as an aside, fresh water still effects Devil Fruit users. Go read SBS volume 41, Oda lays out the exact mechanics of how water and Devil Fruit abilities interact.
If your Imu being in love with Lily theory is correct, I can't wait for him to be revealed as being Vander Decken the first. I also can't wait for Vivi to say he's not her type. 😆 Jokes aside, great intro from the intro king himself Ran D. Troy, and amazing analysis and early spoilers, as per usual. 🔥 Also, watching Charlos literally folding like an accordion was one of my favourite panels of the entirety of the manga. 😎 Thank you, Sai and Leo! I'm especially happy because I love that little guy, probably my second favourite in the Grand Fleet, only behind Bartolomeo. And who cares about Egghead and the SHs? Give us more Lore Piece, Oda!
Idk for sure if Vivi’s ancestor had a history with Amazon Lily since we don't know enough to support this theory. But I do wonder if this will inspire Vivi & Hancock to become friends, and give the Kuja Tribe an even more important role in the final saga. However, the only way for this theory to be confirmed is if the Kuja tribe has something similar to the Minks having a history with the Kouzuki clan from Wano, such as a chamber that houses a special Poneglyph or a symbol of the Nefertari family.
A theory I haven't seen: Lily's brother sold her out because he wanted to be king and a CD, but the Nefertari brush was already tarred and they wouldn't let him become a CD even after Lily was killed, paralleling York and Vegapunk. Her brother made sure her letter was passed down after feeling guilt for getting his sister killed and to spite the government that wouldn't make him a CD.
I'm betting on Imu being Lili's daughter, that would parallel Doffy's story where their parents didnt want to be Celestial dragons but the kids being resentful and looking for a way to get into that throne, difference being that Imu actually managed to do it.
Yeah, Im on the Imu=child of Lili bandwagon. Imu tricked the nations to attack the Ancient Kingdom and after that tricked his mother to use the OpOp Immortality power on him.
@@38achref26 yes lili=imu is better, any other characcter need a whole new background that we dont have so its all fanfic. anything out lili=imu is just hc, with occam razor, the simple answer is lili is the ruler
Or her younger brother who took over after her so called disappearance and ever since as a reddit theory said, lived as a immortal child like sugar and manipulating the memories ever since of all. Joyboy is the opposite and why imu is forever jelly of his sisters love for him
I think Imu has to have been around at the same time as Joyboy. I just don’t see a scenario where our final villain doesn’t have that kind of rapport with our protagonist.
The thing about Bonny. She specifically mentions needing Vegapunk to undo whatever happened to Kuma. So we know she already figured out that she CANT save Kuma as he is.
I've been on board with you for a few chapters now, im in no rush to get back to egghead. Oda is cooking up the Egghead Incident right now and I can keep waiting for that. One thing I did not consider that you brought up is Vivi getting to egghead in order to tell this story of the Reverie. My Egghead incident idea is centered around this being the appearance of the Grand Fleet. You tying the Grand Fleet to Vivi and Morgan is *chefs kiss* This also leads me to believe this is another reason why St Jay Garcia Saturn is on his way there, he's carrying out the mission of capturing Vivi as well as stopping Vegapunk (reaching on the Vivi part lol). Won't be surprised if Big News Morgan ends up dead at some point
Calling it: Saturn kills Cobra. Thus connecting our main crew back to everything going on and giving Luffy a reason to punch him in the face triggering a world wide incident
I think Imu is Lili. If this is the case, Imu's arc is similar to the story of Anakin Skywalker. Both characters betrayed their friends and allies to create and rule an evil organization. They both discarded their old names and have new ones to the point that they consider anyone related to them their enemies. Darth Vader treated Anakin Skywalker as a separate person even though he is Anakin. Imu likely treated Nefertari Lili as a separate person even though Imu is Lili. Lili's goal likely was to bring peace and order to the world in her own way through the creation of the World Government with the Marines and Cipher Pol as its public "protectors". However, Lili's journey corrupted her, causing her transformation into Imu. Nevertheless, Lili likely loved Joy Boy and wanted him to follow her vision which led to Joy Boy rejecting and fighting Imu until she is victorious. Seeing Luffy as Joy Boy returned also gives reason as to why Imu hesitated or failed to act when there were so many hints that Luffy is Joy Boy returned throughout the Straw Hat Pirates' victories. It is possible Imu misses Joy Boy and regrets betraying him because of her obsession with what makes a peaceful and happy world. With her past catching up with her, Imu decides to act but probably will handle Luffy another time. - I changed Yoda's analysis of Anakin's Fall: "Lili is gone. Consumed by Imu." - It is likely Luffy's journey is to save Lili from her Imu persona which Joy Boy failed to do in the past. Similar to how Luke saved Anakin from Vader. - I suspect a conversation like this will happen between post-Laugh Tale arc Luffy and Imu: ua-cam.com/video/w-HFv6Ms1lw/v-deo.html - Recognizing Luffy as Joy Boy returned will make Imu (Lili) question if she should fix her mistakes or continue her path of evil. We know Oda likes "tragic villains".
After seeing Sai & Leo doing an amazing feat that would make Emperor Luffy proud, I now want to know if we'll end up seeing other Grand Fleet members do some amazing things in the near future!
In chapter 127 we see crocodile dries a ( lili) flower and we know crocodile has some parallel with imu in alabasta so maybe imu killed lili? , in chapter 215 we see cobra enters vivi’s room and we see vivi in a black silhouette ( same as this chapter where cobra enters and sees imu )
I believe Imu is Nefertari Lili and Joyboy's children. Here's how i picture things happened. 20 Royalty families gathered around and founded World Government and 19 of those families went on to Marie Jois to become Celestial Dragons. Nefertari Lili didn't wanted to become a God, she didn't had the hubris other families have. So she wanted to return to Arabasta. Celestial Dragons took Lili's action as betrayal and attacked her ship on the way. Her ship destroyed but she stayed alive, but people thought she died. She survived and went on an island later will be known as Amazon Lily, where she only accepted women, because she was the only women ruler in those 20 countries and she saw how despicable men are, she hated men and become first Empress of the Amazon Lily. Later in her life as a pirate she encountered the man that will be known as Joyboy and she fell in love with him because he was a great men, unlike others. She was so much in love with him she fell sick, thus first Empress to be love sick. Later in their life they became a couple and had a child later will be known as Imu. When Joyboy learned the things World Government does, he wanted to end their reign so he attacked them. While fighting, Imu learned her mother rejected becoming a Celestial Dragon and hated her mother because of it. Imu saw being a Celestial Dragon a reward from the sky, a blessing. Imu never wanted to become a pirate like Joyboy, nor wanted to become a ruler. Imu wanted to be a God. Joyboy was so close to winning the battle, he was overpowered. But he didn't know that his children will be the one to kill him, he never expected that so he was defenseless. By killing Joyboy, something Celestial Dragons couldn't do, they bowed down to Imu and let Imu be the King of all kings, king of the world. This is why Imu has Joyboy's hat and I guess the sword Imu had pierced the picture of Shiraoshi is from Lili, sword of Arabasta.
I'm not sure if the note Cobra mentioned is actually real. Because if he wanted to learn the details from the elders, he might've made the whole thing up to force their hands or trick them into admitting something they normally wouldn't.
What if that letter is the main reason tho. Reading a note from someone that supposedly never existed would make cobra curious enough to ask the elder themselves about that someone, let alone the content of the letter.
Lily had the OP OP fruit and was forced to use on Imu. Imu backwards is umi..water..water law. D clan. It’s something there. Imu has the white disease maybe?
6:50 You may have caught this already but Mizu 水 = water and umi 海 is sea. I hope with Luffy symbolizing Joy Boy this will tie into Joy Boy’s promise and it will relate to Vivi and Lili somehow. Anywho, love the content. Looking forward to more SAVAGE W’s in the future.
I like this theory, Randy! There's no doubt in my mind that Imu is lovesick and it could very well be because of Lili/Lily. But there's something I'd like to add... It's about the Ope Ope no Mi. If Lili/Lily is truly THE Amazon Lili/Lily, it implies she must've been disgusted by Imu or some man for some reason. I think I know the reason - The immortality operation. I think Imu loved Lili so much that he literally wanted to spend eternity with her. I mean, the theme of love in general is very linked to the Ope Ope no Mi (and the goddamn fruit itself is heartshaped, just to make it painfully obvious to anyone). Rosinante sacrificed himself for Law, and his last words were literally 'I love you'... I think Lili might've actually loved Imu at one point, but rather than think of him as being romantic, she was disgusted by him being willing to sacrifice a servant or what have you, in order to achieve immortality. She might've also just hated the idea of living forever. This theory also somewhat explains why Imu would react to her name at all, to the point of actually revealing himself. I think part of the operation involves the removal of one's heart. I think Imu is literally and figuratively HEARTLESS (with Punk Hazard foreshadowing this somewhat). It would mirror Luffy perfectly as well, given how much emphasis Oda gives to Luffy's heart and heartbeat, especially in Gear 5. Oh, and the reason Vivi's poster wasn't cut up is because she's obviously the spitting image of Lili/Lily. I'll stop ranting now! :)
@@RandyTroy thank you, Randy! Just to add a bit more... I might've also figured out how the immortality operation works in its entirety. Again, going back to Punk Hazard, we could see Law swapping out the hearts of several pirates and marines, with those affected essentially swapping bodies/personalities... Or better yet, SOULS. Those without hearts still had their personality and could function normally. I'll get to why that's important and how it possibly corroborates/confirms another theory about Blackbeard... What if an Ope Ope No Mi user were to remove a heart and replace his/her own heart with said heart? That would have the same effect as eating two devil fruits, i.e. the body can't contain more than one SOUL, ergo the Ope Ope No Mi user would die... With the heartless user gaining immortality. This would explain how Blackbeard can wield more than one devil fruit... And why he seemingly has 3 personalities/souls. The man has 3 hearts! And he also never sleeps because he switches between those personalities, whilst the others "rest". I went off on a tangent again...
I hate the idea of Imu just being a horny king. It feels to me that the fact we know Lily didn’t plant a sword swearing not to become ruler of the world meant she went and did just that.
Im going with hidden island’s “music of marie” theory. Lili found out the whole truth then was given the choice to either sacrifice herself to maintain balance and keep the world in a blissful ignorance or to destroy the balance and bring the world into the light. Lili choose to sacrifice herself and become imu
I don’t think it was just likely. I think it was the 20 Kings. JBs crew. And like Vivi stayed behind in Alabasta, Lili decided her freedom was less important.
I have a theory about this that İ think fits perfectly : (there is a short version of it at the end of this comment ) İn chapter 1084, when cobra talked about lily, he said "queen lily choose to return to alabasta, but she did not come back to rule alabasta after that,is there anything you might tell me about her" And they couldnt tell anything. İmplying she was lost, she went Missing. İn the same chapter just after they talked about lilys dissapearence, we see some celestial dragons trying to capture a princess, the mermeaid princess shirahoshi , and they called her "pet". And people who helped to free her wasnt her fellow Royal people but pirates. Pirates who worked under joyboy specifically. (Sai and leo) And after this scene we return to Throne room just to hear imu say "lily." In chapter 1085 (the next chapter) we have vivi who is a descendant of lily and who looks like lily. Khalifa said " You will go down as Missing (like lily) and end up someones pet(like shirahoshi)" to vivi and she replied "over my dead body".And in the same chapter revolutunaries frees the slaves. İ think what kalifa said to vivi is exactly what happened to lily.So my theory is, what İf lily went Missing and ended up someones " Pet" . Or to be spesific, imus slave. She Was a female slave. And somehow she and her fellow female slaves managed to escape (with the help of joy boy probably) and formed an all female Pirate crew. And this crew was the foundation of Amazon lily. An İsland full of woman who doesn't like man . Because their ancestors were slaves. And their founder / leader was lily. That would also parallel hancock. A former slave leader.And also that would mean lily was both a princess and a Pirate.just like vivi and just like hancock.connecting the three.And maybe that could explain why this İsland is still all women even 800 years later. Maybe they collect all vulnerable girl babies / children to safety . İt started like This because they didnt want girls end up as slaves but it became just culture thing down generations. And lily caught love sickness for joy boy, just like boa did for luffy and left the İsland. İf joyboy helped lily to escape slavery he would parallel Fisher tiger who helped boa sisters. Sun pirates / sun God . After all we learned about Ginny, İ think there ıs a reason we learned about lily and Ginny in the same arc. And maybe -and that could be a stretch - Ginny and lily are related. Because the name rhyming is something oda does. Or maybe Amazon lily was a prison for female slaves/ prisoners. Chapter 522 page 10 - notice how impel down and Amazon lily are parallels to each other.they are both located ın the calm belt And has the same distance from enies lobby What İf like impel down , Amazon lily was also a prison, a prison for female slaves to be exact. And what İf they liberated that İsland and formed the kuja pirates with all ex slaves? The shortest summary of what I'm trying to say is : Chapter 1084 - they said lili went Missing and celestial dragons tried to capture a princess to be someones pet . The princess was Saved by the pirates working for joyboy . Chapter 1084- They tell vivi that she will end up Missing and end up someones pet. Connecting the two things that happened chapter before. And the Rev army freed the slaves. I think what they are saying to vivi is what actually happened to lily . And she Was enslaved and eventually she and her fellow female slaves were freed by joyboy and found the Amazon lily
Tbh, I don't think Im is Lily. Gorosei several times named Nefertaris as traitors and didn't show much respect ( as they have shown to Im). Also, I have feeling, that the more foreshadowing is lying within Vegapunks lore drop in terms of bloodline/lineage factor while copying power. Might be the reason why Liliys dismissiveness towards potential CD status was taken badly. She might be one responsible handling ancient weapons ( Or Nefertari Bloodline). I speculate that Lili might have been a victim of assassination ( her pivotal role of controlling AW might have been unknown to Im at the time), but survived and established the Amazon Lily ( Not the kuja tribe, but the kingdom itself).
Seeing how doffy and his executives is a foreshadowing to Im and the 5 elders. I’d say Im was approached by the 5 elders since they couldn’t achieve world domination on their own.
I’ve got some thoughts I wanted to share with you. I’ve been thinking about everything Doffy said to Law in regards to the treasure in the holy land, and also the use of the op op no mi. I’m starting to believe that Kuma and King were being experimented on to find the perfect body for Imu. I think Imu had the immortal surgery done using the op op fruit, and currently their body is deteriorating. Maybe they keep bodies in the freezer. This is why they wanted the fruit so desperately in the past. Using the personality swap Imu can get into a new body. Obviously the more powerful the better. I wonder if Kuma gave up his body willingly to get closer to Imu and learn more about them. Doffy new about Imu and how they have been ruling in the shadows for the past 800 years. I’m starting to think the treasure he knows about is the power that destroyed Lelusia. Anyways this is random, just wanted to throw my thoughts out there. Peace!
I think IMU was a sea siren/mermaid, who could use VOAT to manipulate people with music, and forced lily to perform the perpetual surgery on her, which is why she went missing. IMU is using lili's body as a vessel. Hence the ringed eyes. 2 souls within 1 vessel/body. The name of her vessel is nefertati D water lili, so has ties to vivi and law, and and she kept Vivi's poster because she wants to take Vivi's body as her next vessel? This name (water) lily is the same family law is in. Op Op no mi - linked to the water family history? Also there's the 9 mother's of the sea, who personify the sea itself, and birthed heimdallr 👀 Mihawk I see you bruh 😂 nah thats a joke lol Also MU in egyptian is the symbol for water I saw someone comment. So eygptian princess, sea goddess of some kind is what Im going with
Lili is Zunesha, the Nefatari are traitors since Lili left the 20 kings. She never made it home because she was cursed to roam the planet as a giant elephant
Slight correction: umi is actually the Japanese word for sea, not water. The word for water is mizu, but your point about the water lily still stands so whatever
How about Lily had love sickness for Imu and used her OP OP fruit to give Imu immortality which ruined the world all the kingdoms came together to make?
The apparent significance of Vivi's ancestor to Imu makes me think there is something there with the idea that there was a great flood at some point in the past and Vivi being able to call the rain
"Cobra is requesting a meeting with us." "Did he figure something out" this was said by the Gorosei when they were walking towards the Empty Throne and Imu sits on throne reveal. The first time. I wonder what they thought he "Figured out"
one small correction: fresh water also affects df users. the weakness is being submerged, not the water itself. oda clarified it in an sbs and tekking also confirmed it the other day
i think that the great incident the narrator talked about in dressrossa is actually the same incident that the narrator talked about in egghead that will shock the world. i rhink That imepldown 2.0 will be the next official coverstory... Main Characters here will probably be the cross guild.. with buggy and croco u have 2 people who were there the first time and know their way around and with mihawk there as welll (and marco Possibly) there is enough manpower to finish the job... This will lead to many more ppl (Just like the first time) will Join Buggy and the crossguild will be even more powerful and develop a really threat to claiming the OnePiece! ;)
20:33 ah come on Randy you can't say things like "dangling the Carrot" so casually, it's too soon man, it still hurts. Also, love the Chainsaw Man month thing, I usually can't catch it live but I'm definitely watching the VODs. Keep it up!
this theory maybe mad but given how the guards could referred to an IT in phantom room it could refer to IM which adds to my theory that IM is based of Yimir the hermaphroditic giant from Norse creation myth and as the Japanese theorised the use of an ancient user of the hormone fruit to allow the Kuja Tribe to have babies and only female babies perhaps this user turned IM into a hermaphrodite and perhaps Oda used this famous quote of Queen Elizabeth the I to make Lilli a hermaphrodite "I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too".
Been rewatching saboady and the celestial dragons keep being called decendants of the creators. Ive always dismissed that title as created the world gov organisation but what if the 20 kings actually had creation powers and formed the world as it is today like together they had the power to form the redline and imu the strongest made the grandline and calm belt with their umi umi no mi
Oda,s Inspiration For IMU Sama The God Nefertum or Nefertemu Depicted usualy as a Beautiful young Men hving a blue water lily flowers around his head... Some of the titles of Nefertem were : He who is beautiful , and Water lily of The Sun.....
Let’s forget an Adame/Darth Vader fight, let’s get that sweet Luka and Leia “sisters and cousins can get a little too close in Japan” type of thing. Your box is too small, you need to think of a larger box with more edges.
I'm guessing that 800 years ago the 20 rulers didn't swear allegiance to an empty throne, but to Imu or their predecessor. So instead of refusing to join the Celestial Dragons, Lily had refused to become subservient to the new 'King' of the world.
I really do hope Imu is just a man who simped so hard he conquered the world and made himself immortal just so he could wait for his Queen to be reborn so he could simp for her once more. It'd be a very fitting "Hey you know all those panty and sexual harassment jokes and stuff? Haha yeah all in good fun manga and w.e but for real this is what you'll turn into don't be like this man."
20:45 Could it be that Sabo is already listening in to Cobra and the Gorosei's conversation, and then he'll relay the information to the Straw Hats later on?
Cobra is definitely gonna pull some big brain stuff out i can't imagine oda going "he just asked so he could be like ha i learned something" at least i hope not 😅. My theory is cobra knows his death is immanent regardless so asking knowing full well they'll kill him is so he can pass on the information in some way I'm not sure yet how but oda been cooking this ark so i know it'll be good Edit: alternatively the letter could be very telling and he's only asking because it's a declaration of war that will be carried on by vivi
Hey Randy, Bonnie dipped to egghead when she realized that Sabos people were gonna save Kumas body. So she made it her priority to go after Kumas mind at egghead
I’m betting on that Lili became a man and changed her name to Im just like how Crocodile used to be a woman and he was supposed to be the final villain originally. This is a theory by a Japanese youtuber DoroPizza🤯
I just want to point out that we got a silhouette of someone in the void century, which tells me were going to get a void century flashback at some point
Still putting into stocks that imu is a corrupt spirt who lost their physical form so took lilis body since the immortality surgery would probably need a physical body. Not imu the horny king theory lol
God!!!! Randy you're the best! Literally Ran D. Troy! what do you think about this.? Human kind has always looked for a planet in space that has water... Why? because water started life on our planet. Adding more to why imu would love lily someone who flourishes with water.
what if Lili chose Joy Boy over Imu? not necessarily in a romantic sense, but Imu was the one obsessed with Lili and thought “if i can’t have her, then no one can.” and that’s why Lili never made it back to Alabasta
I think imu is Lily or Imu could have killed Lily and use his body through Ope ope no mi kinda like Naruto and Amazon Lily could be connected to Lily could be founder or name after her and then fight with WORLD GOV
So big brained take: Imu was JB and dying. Lili had the Opi Opi Fruit. Lili died saving JB but in the process he lost the Nika Fruit so what he promised he couldn’t complete as it required the Fruit they no longer had.
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@@RandyTroy if Imu took over Lili's bod.
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Clearly you haven't seen Tekking101 roll across his bed. Jk
“RIP Cobra… but we’re on break so he gets to live for another 2 weeks” lol
To address the multiple comments on the subject: At one point in the video I refer back to a point I've brought up multiple times that Imu backwards is Umi which in Japanese, refers the sea, I misspoke in this video and said water while speaking about water lilys. I know mizu means water, thanks guys!
Small tinfoil hat here: If Sai goes to Impel Down, Baby 5 is going with the grand fleet to get her husband. This sets her up to spring Doffy. He knows she will do what he asks because he is in need and she will be “useful” .
Plot Twist: Sai has finally taught Baby 5 her self-worth and she will reject Doflamingo's request.
Hearing the love sickness angle, it would be pretty funny if Lily is Imu, she became infatuated with Joy Boy, but he had no interest just like Luffy with Boa. Almost like a bad timeline version of Handcock. Amazon Lily founded by those who followed her before she went crazy. The letter simply reads... My Joy Boy died, down with the D clan who stole his heart, guess I've just got to rule the world instead, going to wait for him to re-incarnate. So many fun possibilities for the void century!
Love that!!!
Randy: I don’t think Lili could be evil enough to be Imu
Also Randy: I wish Vivi was the person to beat up a CD, thus get her entire family and friends killed and a country nuked
Something to remember about the Cobra and Robin conversation: Cobra says he is protecting the rock for some reason and Robin straight up does not believe him that it is for good.
Betting somehow Robin is going to be right.
I think we can now assume it was because she knew he was a celestial dragon
@@idiatico I’m just saying. I bet there’s a reason they are keeping it beyond what Cobra knew. And I think Lili is the reason for it.
I could see Amazon Lily being founded by followers of Queen Lily, who after she was maybe killed by Imu hated all men afterwards and they also needed some isolated place where the enemies of their former Queen wouldn't be able to arrive, since Amazon Lily is in the Calm Belt and it was pretty difficult to get there until only recently.
Exactly. It's my favorite of the two scenarios I presented regarding Amazon Lily for sure
Fresh water apparently still has a weakening effect on DF users.
Not only has it been said any kind of liquid weakens them, but even if you don’t take that as fact then Luffy and Big Mom both weakened in the fresh water around Wano.
Just as an aside, fresh water still effects Devil Fruit users. Go read SBS volume 41, Oda lays out the exact mechanics of how water and Devil Fruit abilities interact.
If your Imu being in love with Lily theory is correct, I can't wait for him to be revealed as being Vander Decken the first. I also can't wait for Vivi to say he's not her type. 😆 Jokes aside, great intro from the intro king himself Ran D. Troy, and amazing analysis and early spoilers, as per usual. 🔥 Also, watching Charlos literally folding like an accordion was one of my favourite panels of the entirety of the manga. 😎 Thank you, Sai and Leo! I'm especially happy because I love that little guy, probably my second favourite in the Grand Fleet, only behind Bartolomeo.
And who cares about Egghead and the SHs? Give us more Lore Piece, Oda!
Toss up between Leo and Cav for Fleet #1 spot for me
Idk for sure if Vivi’s ancestor had a history with Amazon Lily since we don't know enough to support this theory. But I do wonder if this will inspire Vivi & Hancock to become friends, and give the Kuja Tribe an even more important role in the final saga. However, the only way for this theory to be confirmed is if the Kuja tribe has something similar to the Minks having a history with the Kouzuki clan from Wano, such as a chamber that houses a special Poneglyph or a symbol of the Nefertari family.
A theory I haven't seen: Lily's brother sold her out because he wanted to be king and a CD, but the Nefertari brush was already tarred and they wouldn't let him become a CD even after Lily was killed, paralleling York and Vegapunk. Her brother made sure her letter was passed down after feeling guilt for getting his sister killed and to spite the government that wouldn't make him a CD.
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16:00 double check end of 1054, Sai and Leo are excused. The real attempted murder is Charlos ordering Kuma to kill Mjorsgard.
If Imu is doing all of this because he was rejected by Lili. This would rank him number 2 all time, simp behind Obito.
I was just thinking this 😂
Well considering Imu maybe over 900years old I think that make him/her (dont know ims gender yet.) number 1 simp
I'm betting on Imu being Lili's daughter, that would parallel Doffy's story where their parents didnt want to be Celestial dragons but the kids being resentful and looking for a way to get into that throne, difference being that Imu actually managed to do it.
Yeah, Im on the Imu=child of Lili bandwagon. Imu tricked the nations to attack the Ancient Kingdom and after that tricked his mother to use the OpOp Immortality power on him.
nah i bet lili herself is indeed imu
@@38achref26 yes lili=imu is better, any other characcter need a whole new background that we dont have so its all fanfic. anything out lili=imu is just hc, with occam razor, the simple answer is lili is the ruler
Or her younger brother who took over after her so called disappearance and ever since as a reddit theory said, lived as a immortal child like sugar and manipulating the memories ever since of all. Joyboy is the opposite and why imu is forever jelly of his sisters love for him
I think Imu has to have been around at the same time as Joyboy. I just don’t see a scenario where our final villain doesn’t have that kind of rapport with our protagonist.
Love the content man. I rewatch your videos all the time and have the bell on🙌🏼
appreciate that, Ian!
The thing about Bonny. She specifically mentions needing Vegapunk to undo whatever happened to Kuma. So we know she already figured out that she CANT save Kuma as he is.
I've been on board with you for a few chapters now, im in no rush to get back to egghead. Oda is cooking up the Egghead Incident right now and I can keep waiting for that. One thing I did not consider that you brought up is Vivi getting to egghead in order to tell this story of the Reverie. My Egghead incident idea is centered around this being the appearance of the Grand Fleet. You tying the Grand Fleet to Vivi and Morgan is *chefs kiss* This also leads me to believe this is another reason why St Jay Garcia Saturn is on his way there, he's carrying out the mission of capturing Vivi as well as stopping Vegapunk (reaching on the Vivi part lol). Won't be surprised if Big News Morgan ends up dead at some point
It's about to be that time!!
My best bet is that Imu is in the body of Lily due to the personality swapping powers of the Ope Ope fruit as well as the perennial youth operation
Calling it: Saturn kills Cobra. Thus connecting our main crew back to everything going on and giving Luffy a reason to punch him in the face triggering a world wide incident
Here for it
I think Imu is Lili. If this is the case, Imu's arc is similar to the story of Anakin Skywalker. Both characters betrayed their friends and allies to create and rule an evil organization. They both discarded their old names and have new ones to the point that they consider anyone related to them their enemies. Darth Vader treated Anakin Skywalker as a separate person even though he is Anakin. Imu likely treated Nefertari Lili as a separate person even though Imu is Lili. Lili's goal likely was to bring peace and order to the world in her own way through the creation of the World Government with the Marines and Cipher Pol as its public "protectors". However, Lili's journey corrupted her, causing her transformation into Imu. Nevertheless, Lili likely loved Joy Boy and wanted him to follow her vision which led to Joy Boy rejecting and fighting Imu until she is victorious. Seeing Luffy as Joy Boy returned also gives reason as to why Imu hesitated or failed to act when there were so many hints that Luffy is Joy Boy returned throughout the Straw Hat Pirates' victories. It is possible Imu misses Joy Boy and regrets betraying him because of her obsession with what makes a peaceful and happy world. With her past catching up with her, Imu decides to act but probably will handle Luffy another time.
- I changed Yoda's analysis of Anakin's Fall: "Lili is gone. Consumed by Imu."
- It is likely Luffy's journey is to save Lili from her Imu persona which Joy Boy failed to do in the past. Similar to how Luke saved Anakin from Vader.
- I suspect a conversation like this will happen between post-Laugh Tale arc Luffy and Imu: ua-cam.com/video/w-HFv6Ms1lw/v-deo.html
- Recognizing Luffy as Joy Boy returned will make Imu (Lili) question if she should fix her mistakes or continue her path of evil. We know Oda likes "tragic villains".
After seeing Sai & Leo doing an amazing feat that would make Emperor Luffy proud, I now want to know if we'll end up seeing other Grand Fleet members do some amazing things in the near future!
I wanna see Barto block a Divine Departure and having a better feat than Kid
elizabello king punch charlos👀
I guess Bonney not helping out does at least go to show that the Rev army succeeded in their tasks without outside help, so their plan was solid.
My theory is vivi has the letter written by queen Lili and will use it to create a D headline
In chapter 127 we see crocodile dries a ( lili) flower and we know crocodile has some parallel with imu in alabasta so maybe imu killed lili? , in chapter 215 we see cobra enters vivi’s room and we see vivi in a black silhouette ( same as this chapter where cobra enters and sees imu )
He shot cobra so many times in the intro😂😭😭 im so dead, great video randy!
probably the funniest intro, you know im feeling the vibe
NGL I loved this intro, i busted out laughing when he walked out of imu's room with a strawhat.
Random comment, and I have no clue how you did it, but you absolutely killed the lighting in your new place, the sweatshirt is POPPING
I think Lily had the ope-ope fruit and sacrificed herself by performing the immortality surgery on Imu in order to save Arabasta
I believe Imu is Nefertari Lili and Joyboy's children. Here's how i picture things happened.
20 Royalty families gathered around and founded World Government and 19 of those families went on to Marie Jois to become Celestial Dragons. Nefertari Lili didn't wanted to become a God, she didn't had the hubris other families have. So she wanted to return to Arabasta.
Celestial Dragons took Lili's action as betrayal and attacked her ship on the way. Her ship destroyed but she stayed alive, but people thought she died. She survived and went on an island later will be known as Amazon Lily, where she only accepted women, because she was the only women ruler in those 20 countries and she saw how despicable men are, she hated men and become first Empress of the Amazon Lily.
Later in her life as a pirate she encountered the man that will be known as Joyboy and she fell in love with him because he was a great men, unlike others. She was so much in love with him she fell sick, thus first Empress to be love sick. Later in their life they became a couple and had a child later will be known as Imu.
When Joyboy learned the things World Government does, he wanted to end their reign so he attacked them. While fighting, Imu learned her mother rejected becoming a Celestial Dragon and hated her mother because of it. Imu saw being a Celestial Dragon a reward from the sky, a blessing. Imu never wanted to become a pirate like Joyboy, nor wanted to become a ruler. Imu wanted to be a God.
Joyboy was so close to winning the battle, he was overpowered. But he didn't know that his children will be the one to kill him, he never expected that so he was defenseless.
By killing Joyboy, something Celestial Dragons couldn't do, they bowed down to Imu and let Imu be the King of all kings, king of the world. This is why Imu has Joyboy's hat and I guess the sword Imu had pierced the picture of Shiraoshi is from Lili, sword of Arabasta.
I'm not sure if the note Cobra mentioned is actually real. Because if he wanted to learn the details from the elders, he might've made the whole thing up to force their hands or trick them into admitting something they normally wouldn't.
What if that letter is the main reason tho. Reading a note from someone that supposedly never existed would make cobra curious enough to ask the elder themselves about that someone, let alone the content of the letter.
@@mcleo2231 Cobra basically said as much. ‘You guys got rid of everything so why is the letter here?’
Lily had the OP OP fruit and was forced to use on Imu. Imu backwards is umi..water..water law. D clan. It’s something there. Imu has the white disease maybe?
6:50 You may have caught this already but Mizu 水 = water and umi 海 is sea.
I hope with Luffy symbolizing Joy Boy this will tie into Joy Boy’s promise and it will relate to Vivi and Lili somehow. Anywho, love the content. Looking forward to more SAVAGE W’s in the future.
That intro always got me feeling the vibe so I like, comment but already subscribed
I like this theory, Randy!
There's no doubt in my mind that Imu is lovesick and it could very well be because of Lili/Lily.
But there's something I'd like to add... It's about the Ope Ope no Mi.
If Lili/Lily is truly THE Amazon Lili/Lily, it implies she must've been disgusted by Imu or some man for some reason.
I think I know the reason - The immortality operation.
I think Imu loved Lili so much that he literally wanted to spend eternity with her.
I mean, the theme of love in general is very linked to the Ope Ope no Mi (and the goddamn fruit itself is heartshaped, just to make it painfully obvious to anyone).
Rosinante sacrificed himself for Law, and his last words were literally 'I love you'...
I think Lili might've actually loved Imu at one point, but rather than think of him as being romantic, she was disgusted by him being willing to sacrifice a servant or what have you, in order to achieve immortality. She might've also just hated the idea of living forever. This theory also somewhat explains why Imu would react to her name at all, to the point of actually revealing himself.
I think part of the operation involves the removal of one's heart. I think Imu is literally and figuratively HEARTLESS (with Punk Hazard foreshadowing this somewhat). It would mirror Luffy perfectly as well, given how much emphasis Oda gives to Luffy's heart and heartbeat, especially in Gear 5.
Oh, and the reason Vivi's poster wasn't cut up is because she's obviously the spitting image of Lili/Lily.
I'll stop ranting now! :)
Great points made!!!
@@RandyTroy thank you, Randy!
Just to add a bit more... I might've also figured out how the immortality operation works in its entirety.
Again, going back to Punk Hazard, we could see Law swapping out the hearts of several pirates and marines, with those affected essentially swapping bodies/personalities... Or better yet, SOULS.
Those without hearts still had their personality and could function normally.
I'll get to why that's important and how it possibly corroborates/confirms another theory about Blackbeard...
What if an Ope Ope No Mi user were to remove a heart and replace his/her own heart with said heart?
That would have the same effect as eating two devil fruits, i.e. the body can't contain more than one SOUL, ergo the Ope Ope No Mi user would die...
With the heartless user gaining immortality.
This would explain how Blackbeard can wield more than one devil fruit... And why he seemingly has 3 personalities/souls.
The man has 3 hearts! And he also never sleeps because he switches between those personalities, whilst the others "rest".
I went off on a tangent again...
these intros are always fire but this time it was quite literally firing
i think lily was from amazon lily or create it and imu is the one curse all empress with love sickness .
And then you add in the fact that Boa wants Luffy and that whole relationship & the satire/humor really comes alive
I hate the idea of Imu just being a horny king. It feels to me that the fact we know Lily didn’t plant a sword swearing not to become ruler of the world meant she went and did just that.
Im going with hidden island’s “music of marie” theory. Lili found out the whole truth then was given the choice to either sacrifice herself to maintain balance and keep the world in a blissful ignorance or to destroy the balance and bring the world into the light. Lili choose to sacrifice herself and become imu
I don’t think it was just likely. I think it was the 20 Kings. JBs crew. And like Vivi stayed behind in Alabasta, Lili decided her freedom was less important.
I have a theory about this that İ think fits perfectly : (there is a short version of it at the end of this comment )
İn chapter 1084, when cobra talked about lily, he said "queen lily choose to return to alabasta, but she did not come back to rule alabasta after that,is there anything you might tell me about her" And they couldnt tell anything. İmplying she was lost, she went Missing.
İn the same chapter just after they talked about lilys dissapearence, we see some celestial dragons trying to capture a princess, the mermeaid princess shirahoshi , and they called her "pet". And people who helped to free her wasnt her fellow Royal people but pirates. Pirates who worked under joyboy specifically. (Sai and leo) And after this scene we return to Throne room just to hear imu say "lily."
In chapter 1085 (the next chapter) we have vivi who is a descendant of lily and who looks like lily. Khalifa said " You will go down as Missing (like lily) and end up someones pet(like shirahoshi)" to vivi and she replied "over my dead body".And in the same chapter revolutunaries frees the slaves.
İ think what kalifa said to vivi is exactly what happened to lily.So my theory is, what İf lily went Missing and ended up someones " Pet" . Or to be spesific, imus slave. She Was a female slave. And somehow she and her fellow female slaves managed to escape (with the help of joy boy probably) and formed an all female Pirate crew. And this crew was the foundation of Amazon lily. An İsland full of woman who doesn't like man . Because their ancestors were slaves. And their founder / leader was lily. That would also parallel hancock. A former slave leader.And also that would mean lily was both a princess and a Pirate.just like vivi and just like hancock.connecting the three.And maybe that could explain why this İsland is still all women even 800 years later. Maybe they collect all vulnerable girl babies / children to safety . İt started like This because they didnt want girls end up as slaves but it became just culture thing down generations. And lily caught love sickness for joy boy, just like boa did for luffy and left the İsland.
İf joyboy helped lily to escape slavery he would parallel Fisher tiger who helped boa sisters. Sun pirates / sun God .
After all we learned about Ginny, İ think there ıs a reason we learned about lily and Ginny in the same arc. And maybe -and that could be a stretch - Ginny and lily are related. Because the name rhyming is something oda does.
Or maybe Amazon lily was a prison for female slaves/ prisoners. Chapter 522 page 10 - notice how impel down and Amazon lily are parallels to each other.they are both located ın the calm belt And has the same distance from enies lobby What İf like impel down , Amazon lily was also a prison, a prison for female slaves to be exact. And what İf they liberated that İsland and formed the kuja pirates with all ex slaves?
The shortest summary of what I'm trying to say is :
Chapter 1084 - they said lili went Missing and celestial dragons tried to capture a princess to be someones pet . The princess was Saved by the pirates working for joyboy .
Chapter 1084- They tell vivi that she will end up Missing and end up someones pet. Connecting the two things that happened chapter before. And the Rev army freed the slaves.
I think what they are saying to vivi is what actually happened to lily . And she Was enslaved and eventually she and her fellow female slaves were freed by joyboy and found the Amazon lily
Steven A Smith walking around in that throne room took me out. 😂😂😂😂
Not Eric Andre giving cobra the 16 holy bullets 😂
Tbh, I don't think Im is Lily.
Gorosei several times named Nefertaris as traitors and didn't show much respect ( as they have shown to Im).
Also, I have feeling, that the more foreshadowing is lying within Vegapunks lore drop in terms of bloodline/lineage factor while copying power. Might be the reason why Liliys dismissiveness towards potential CD status was taken badly. She might be one responsible handling ancient weapons ( Or Nefertari Bloodline).
I speculate that Lili might have been a victim of assassination ( her pivotal role of controlling AW might have been unknown to Im at the time), but survived and established the Amazon Lily ( Not the kuja tribe, but the kingdom itself).
I dont think the Gorosei would know if Imu is a Nefertari, I don't see Imu liking that anyone knows about that
Seeing how doffy and his executives is a foreshadowing to Im and the 5 elders. I’d say Im was approached by the 5 elders since they couldn’t achieve world domination on their own.
Man I can’t wait to see The Void Century flash backs as well as God Valley!!!🔥👊🏾🙏🏾💯
If its about to be that time every time, when is it not that time 😢😢😢😢
As long as you believe, it can be *always* be about to be that time any time you want
I’ve got some thoughts I wanted to share with you. I’ve been thinking about everything Doffy said to Law in regards to the treasure in the holy land, and also the use of the op op no mi. I’m starting to believe that Kuma and King were being experimented on to find the perfect body for Imu. I think Imu had the immortal surgery done using the op op fruit, and currently their body is deteriorating. Maybe they keep bodies in the freezer. This is why they wanted the fruit so desperately in the past. Using the personality swap Imu can get into a new body. Obviously the more powerful the better. I wonder if Kuma gave up his body willingly to get closer to Imu and learn more about them. Doffy new about Imu and how they have been ruling in the shadows for the past 800 years. I’m starting to think the treasure he knows about is the power that destroyed Lelusia. Anyways this is random, just wanted to throw my thoughts out there. Peace!
I have been away and busy with work Captain, but wanted to jump in and say, One Piece is on fire again.
I think IMU was a sea siren/mermaid, who could use VOAT to manipulate people with music, and forced lily to perform the perpetual surgery on her, which is why she went missing. IMU is using lili's body as a vessel. Hence the ringed eyes. 2 souls within 1 vessel/body. The name of her vessel is nefertati D water lili, so has ties to vivi and law, and and she kept Vivi's poster because she wants to take Vivi's body as her next vessel?
This name (water) lily is the same family law is in. Op Op no mi - linked to the water family history?
Also there's the 9 mother's of the sea, who personify the sea itself, and birthed heimdallr 👀 Mihawk I see you bruh 😂 nah thats a joke lol
Also MU in egyptian is the symbol for water I saw someone comment. So eygptian princess, sea goddess of some kind is what Im going with
Ran D is feasting on these latest chapters
Lili is Zunesha, the Nefatari are traitors since Lili left the 20 kings. She never made it home because she was cursed to roam the planet as a giant elephant
Wasnt it said Zunesha was joyboy’s pet
@@Momo-zi7sp i thought it said nakama so friend
I am worried vivi will be a crewmate in the final arc but spend all of it as imu's prisoner
Your background melodies 🔥
I don't really feel like the Imu and lily stuff shouldn't be love related, since that has never been a big part in OP.
Slight correction: umi is actually the Japanese word for sea, not water. The word for water is mizu, but your point about the water lily still stands so whatever
Absolutely, I knew that and still somehow made the mistake
Ok randy the Eric Andre had me legit lol
How about Lily had love sickness for Imu and used her OP OP fruit to give Imu immortality which ruined the world all the kingdoms came together to make?
The apparent significance of Vivi's ancestor to Imu makes me think there is something there with the idea that there was a great flood at some point in the past and Vivi being able to call the rain
Oda still killing, loved the analisys and theory, Savage!
"Cobra is requesting a meeting with us." "Did he figure something out" this was said by the Gorosei when they were walking towards the Empty Throne and Imu sits on throne reveal. The first time. I wonder what they thought he "Figured out"
I know we're certainly not getting the D reveal until Laughtale. Rayleigh said as much.
Man even if I don't have immediate spare time to check the new video, I always bounce around just to at least check the intro and the memes 🤣
one small correction: fresh water also affects df users. the weakness is being submerged, not the water itself. oda clarified it in an sbs and tekking also confirmed it the other day
Lili as in Lilith.
i think that the great incident the narrator talked about in dressrossa is actually the same incident that the narrator talked about in egghead that will shock the world. i rhink That imepldown 2.0 will be the next official coverstory... Main Characters here will probably be the cross guild.. with buggy and croco u have 2 people who were there the first time and know their way around and with mihawk there as welll (and marco Possibly) there is enough manpower to finish the job... This will lead to many more ppl (Just like the first time) will Join Buggy and the crossguild will be even more powerful and develop a really threat to claiming the OnePiece! ;)
20:33 ah come on Randy you can't say things like "dangling the Carrot" so casually, it's too soon man, it still hurts.
Also, love the Chainsaw Man month thing, I usually can't catch it live but I'm definitely watching the VODs. Keep it up!
this theory maybe mad but given how the guards could referred to an IT in phantom room it could refer to IM which adds to my theory that IM is based of Yimir the hermaphroditic giant from Norse creation myth and as the Japanese theorised the use of an ancient user of the hormone fruit to allow the Kuja Tribe to have babies and only female babies perhaps this user turned IM into a hermaphrodite and perhaps Oda used this famous quote of Queen Elizabeth the I to make Lilli a hermaphrodite "I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too".
this intro made me subscribe lmaooo
Getting really interesting , 🐍
Been rewatching saboady and the celestial dragons keep being called decendants of the creators. Ive always dismissed that title as created the world gov organisation but what if the 20 kings actually had creation powers and formed the world as it is today like together they had the power to form the redline and imu the strongest made the grandline and calm belt with their umi umi no mi
800 year pause ayo
Top G Randy, be careful not to get buster called!!
😂this intro and this voice of him is always like the top of the hill and the bottom of the ocean
I have been waiting for this video
Oda,s Inspiration For IMU Sama
The God Nefertum or Nefertemu
Depicted usualy as a Beautiful young Men hving a blue water lily flowers around his head...
Some of the titles of Nefertem were : He who is beautiful , and Water lily of The Sun.....
Let’s forget an Adame/Darth Vader fight, let’s get that sweet Luka and Leia “sisters and cousins can get a little too close in Japan” type of thing.
Your box is too small, you need to think of a larger box with more edges.
I'm guessing that 800 years ago the 20 rulers didn't swear allegiance to an empty throne, but to Imu or their predecessor.
So instead of refusing to join the Celestial Dragons, Lily had refused to become subservient to the new 'King' of the world.
Never been this early, 41secs after upload😂😂
fr i was 8mins into the vid and checked to see the video was uploaded 7 mins ago lol
@@ssheeesshhahaha😂
I really do hope Imu is just a man who simped so hard he conquered the world and made himself immortal just so he could wait for his Queen to be reborn so he could simp for her once more. It'd be a very fitting "Hey you know all those panty and sexual harassment jokes and stuff? Haha yeah all in good fun manga and w.e but for real this is what you'll turn into don't be like this man."
I love the savage opening
20:45 Could it be that Sabo is already listening in to Cobra and the Gorosei's conversation, and then he'll relay the information to the Straw Hats later on?
Cobra is definitely gonna pull some big brain stuff out i can't imagine oda going "he just asked so he could be like ha i learned something" at least i hope not 😅. My theory is cobra knows his death is immanent regardless so asking knowing full well they'll kill him is so he can pass on the information in some way I'm not sure yet how but oda been cooking this ark so i know it'll be good
Edit: alternatively the letter could be very telling and he's only asking because it's a declaration of war that will be carried on by vivi
4 months late to the party of 1. But Tiger Lily connects us back to Alabasta, it'll make more sense round july 1 or 2nd
I believe the Letters from Queen lily says..
Onepiece Never Ends..
Hey Randy, Bonnie dipped to egghead when she realized that Sabos people were gonna save Kumas body. So she made it her priority to go after Kumas mind at egghead
I’m betting on that Lili became a man and changed her name to Im just like how Crocodile used to be a woman and he was supposed to be the final villain originally. This is a theory by a Japanese youtuber DoroPizza🤯
lily's "best friend" made amazon lily
You mean to tell me it's been 5 YEARS????? I refuse to believe that much time has passed. These are recent events we're talking about here
2018!
@Randy Troy what if what some of the grand fleet members did to the celestial D was known as the major event that was mentioned a while back.
I just want to point out that we got a silhouette of someone in the void century, which tells me were going to get a void century flashback at some point
Still putting into stocks that imu is a corrupt spirt who lost their physical form so took lilis body since the immortality surgery would probably need a physical body. Not imu the horny king theory lol
God!!!! Randy you're the best! Literally Ran D. Troy! what do you think about this.? Human kind has always looked for a planet in space that has water... Why? because water started life on our planet. Adding more to why imu would love lily someone who flourishes with water.
“Oda wants to refresh us, obviously we know” (proceeds to recap) lol bruh come on get to the theorizing
what if Lili chose Joy Boy over Imu? not necessarily in a romantic sense, but Imu was the one obsessed with Lili and thought “if i can’t have her, then no one can.” and that’s why Lili never made it back to Alabasta
I think imu is Lily or Imu could have killed Lily and use his body through Ope ope no mi kinda like Naruto and Amazon Lily could be connected to Lily could be founder or name after her and then fight with WORLD GOV
So big brained take: Imu was JB and dying. Lili had the Opi Opi Fruit. Lili died saving JB but in the process he lost the Nika Fruit so what he promised he couldn’t complete as it required the Fruit they no longer had.
Best opening ever