Omg... I think I’m growing up... I have SMART goals and systems. And I’m enjoying it. This is huge for an INFP 😮 SMART Goal I will do my evening routine-scheduling and preparing for next day’s activities (snacks, clothes, shower, alarm) doing yoga for 15 min to wind down, journaling, lights out by 10:30, listen to bedtime meditation- 5 days this week. I have set a daily reminder in my phone with encouraging words to remind me of how much better I feel if I do. 🦋👍
Leah Jn I don’t know... the more I watch these videos the less sure I am about my type... 😄. Now I’m leaning towards INFJ... maybe because I’m not suffering from chronic pain and depression any more-which I was for 3 years. Those factors definitely influence how you perceive and operate in the world. Also I’m okay with the mystery of not knowing what type I am. My routines are loosely structured and I make them fun. I prefer using afFORMations to trick my mind into action and empowering self-talk. (They are life affirmations but in the form of a question ie... Affirmation: “I am organized and prepared every day.” becomes “Why am I so organized and prepared for my day?” Or “Why is it so easy to be organized and prepared every day?” or my favorite “Why is it so easy and FUN to be organized and prepared for my day?” 😃 You can probably feel the change in mindset right away.
@Leah Jn Im def an INFP (savior Di demon Oe) and Fi allows us to move in OUR own way. It’s literally only us on our little path down a dark lonely road. Te is why we are on that dark lonely road. It is hard to live out in reality because reality doesn’t seem to be for us, because it doesn’t follow us. The path becomes bright when we see that the world wants us and praises OUR Fi, but the world praises it when we get out of Fi universe and go out in Te universe.
I love the accidental Stoic philosophy in this video. Absolutely, only focus on your character! Your character is what is important and will bring you to edudaimonia (mental wellbeing).
Why are y’all ALWAYS on point with the content I need and topics I’m struggling with prior to videos? God bless. This is one of the best videos y’all have released.
“In the coming kingdom the last will be first and the first will be last “ “Keep on seeking the kingdom first and its righteousness and all these things will be added to you” I live by these words 😁
Love the vid guys! This was so on point. I got a lot of value out of this. Love the comparison grid too. It’s a well presented distillation of everything you’ve been teaching the last 2 years.
As a Catholic, it really struck me when you did your hero's journey series how it corresponded almost exactly with the spiritual journey of mystics like St John of the Cross and Saint Teresa of Avila. It's so interesting to hear you make the correlation to Christianity. Please keep the great videos coming.
A lot of this message reminds me of Pirkey Avoth (Ethics of the forefathers) Here are some examples: "Be not like servants who serve their master for the sake of receiving a reward" - Pirkey Avoth 2:3 "Do not separate yourself from the community, and do not be sure of yourself until your day of death." - Pirkey Avoth 2:4 "In a place where there are no worthy men, strive to be worthy." - Pirkey Avoth 2:5 "Love work, and do not admire official positions, and do not become too acquainted with the governing power." - Pirkey Avoth 1:10
i dont really just watch these videos just to learn about myself, it's not only that, but I also watch them to learn the messages that each and every one of them portray, and I take them, stash them in my sack and head on to the sunset because i know forwards the only way to go
To be fair I think Dave hates wearing white because he's some kind of Autumn season and only Winters like Shan look harmonious in pure white. Wearing your right or wrong colours can totally affect you, even if you have zero clue wtf I'm talking about haha
this is such a great video. I appreciate your channel so much. you guys are so doing so well at applying personality type knowledge for real growth. thank you!
The left side looks like The Dark Side of The Force, the right side is The Light. Fear, Anger, Hate and Suffering, they're all the same thing. Only honest humility can keep one from this self destructive path.
I wonder how much the Oi and Oe struggles are connected to the cultural influence of captalism, since it pushes us into individualization and consumerism. As a ENTP managing my fears and anxieties is what I struggle the most, I know what I gotta do to solve my problems, doing it is a whole different thing
Wow! Great message in this video. Thank you! Now I realize why I felt so liberated when I downsized into a small condo and got rid of all my shit. lol Side note; I just realized why I refused to give out candy/prizes to my students as a form of reward as so many teachers do-- extrinsic rewards prevent children from developing the ability to construct their own intrinsic reward system.
I just realised.. i watch and enjoy so many of your videos. And i forget to press like.. actually i forget to do this with most videos i enjoy. But i will make a conscious effort to do that.
Generally, their best video. I think they need to tweak the first line (Di) and the third line (Oi). They have to UNDERSTAND the influence of the CONTEXT to take proper responsibility. And they are controlling - judging by their employee expectations. Their shadows are sneaking in there.
Unhealthy INTPs are so Zen and satesfied with reality that we accept our lot of underachievment too. Not alway a good thing. We convinces ourself that the negative reality is acceptable to live with it. Replace panic with self-loathing. Nothing is ever urgent anymore.
As an ISTP somehow i stack everything on that "internal" Character and become zen. In zen stage i don't need much. But if i get a partner then the family still need social marterials things and in zen stage im lack of Goal/drive. Now i'm trying for Zen+ end game goal.
"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be gathered unto you", or to put it a different way, "Just because you shot Jesse James, doesn't mean you are him"
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo hahahaha! The two are not equivalent, but I agree with Adam that both the Biblical passage and the other comment speak to the topic of the vlog
If all OPs had was this... for people to realize this and track it in their lives and realize how they affect every single experience, we would become mighty... 4 imbalances.
IDK I don't see how the whole getting zen and congruent and at peace with everything is an end in itself.... Cause you got a whole life... What are you gonna do with all that time? I feel like these fears and desires drive people to move through life and then when they get old and retire, they get zen or whatever. But what about the time in between? I see how there can be goals void of need or ego, but then I get to like fixing the whole world and how would I do that? There's so much going on everywhere that I feel like I just couldn't do enough to make a change. It gets to this place where even if all the wars were stopped and a system was created for everybody to live freely and have their needs met and we got to this place of the whole planet being maximally healthy and abundant; What would people be doing? Wouldn't they just start making up new conflicts to solve? New power dynamics, imbalances, etc? Even if we were all zen, wouldn't we do this out of sheer boredom? Then maybe we have already gotten to that place a few times and all that's left to do is just experience life to the fullest and worry about being zen when you're old.
Cool video on the topic of hypocrisy & personal Responsibility/Accountability. What I don't quite understand: In your D/O table, each Di/De & Oi/Oe has an extroverted & introverted side. ?
@@BigChungusOriginal I think it's when it's a demon, or a place of struggle on the hero's journey. It's an example on the left of unhealthy expression of the function, and what your realization/destination could be when you're mature
I wore a light top to the doctor's recently coz all of the other darker ones have gotten tight since I've put on weight heehee. So it was weird wearing a light colour. (I don't shop.. most of my clothes are hand me downs :) coz i hate shopping) so anyway i got over the lightness of the top because it fit me and that's what mattered in that moment heeheehee -infj
Erk she laughs but if only she knew how true it is. I can’t have super bright colors or super dark colors as comforters for my bed but somewhere in the light pastel middle. I get the same drain effect if I don’t resonate with the color or aesthetic. 🤣
Decider and Observer, but more specifically your deciders are your feeling and thinking functions (Fi, Fe, Ti, Te) and observers are your sensing and intuition functions (Si, Se, Ni, Ne). Deciders are used to... Make decisions... And observers are for taking in and processing information about the world.
who is the De in the table? the First guy or the second one? is the hero Journey of the De being a person of your word? Is the hero journey from the Di Manipulation and validation? or i am just getting things reversed? in other words, is the De into a introverted Hero s Journey is the Di into a Extraverted Heros journey?
In this video, the correct path for the hero's journey is always the introverted path. I too was confused by that at first: Everything about Jungian typing reflects balance, complementarity, wholeness...so why do we suddenly all need to become introverts? I guess the answer is that self-improvement is by nature an introverted process. And that it can be followed up with some kind of extraverted "sharing" process. The latter was not really the topic of this video, though Dave & Shan alluded to it briefly. At this character-building phase of the journey, all the extraverted options on the chart are premature and thus inappropriate.
so in short : Di: i am better than you, because you're a failure /i've fucked up but i'm still cool De: i'll do it but you gotta do this and that .../ YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR!!! Oi: yeah i can micromanage my life 20 years in ahead/ good i already have my favourites things planned out Oe: i'll be the first person to lay foot on every planet ever/ we already have the sun , the trees , this ketamine it's all good
Although the scientific validation of the conclusions of the subject matter presented here is a possible future event, for now at least I feel like there may some insight and wisdom going on; to be sure, it feels true, constructive and positive. It's pulling me in somewhat. I find myself a bit alienated though by the references/analogies from religious teachings, but then that may just be a significant frame of reference from their life experiences. I'll get over it thinking and feeling it through. Maybe try it on. I can always dismiss whatever may prove false. The cost to me approaches zero.
This video is well made and informative, but I just have to say, as someone who lives in Europe, my guys, we love America Its the golden country and we're all trying to get there So yeah I wanted to correct you on that as its incorrect
I've been watching and enjoying Dave for years, and then he was gone. Now I see this familiar friendly face again, and I'm drawn into the deep subject matter. But wait, somethings different. As I listen, the vocabulary has become a little rough around the edges. Words that some people use in their daily lives and never even think about their source, or real meaning. Words like screwed, sucks, and many others. I can listen, but for me it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. Now two videos in a row, and without warning you're dropping "f" bombs. Ten years ago I was thinking of stopping by your house, just to meet you and Val. I have relatives in Glendale and Glendora. Now, maybe not. Foul language has no place in my life. Not in my home, and not in the people I allow into my life. If you're going to put your smiling face out in public, and you care about what people think. You might consider cleaning up your act. Others may consider the content not worth the verbal abuse as well. Think about it.
.... ok so 1st, great advice, BUT lol... do you two honestly think you could be responsible for an actual revolution lol. I love this advice... but seriously come on. There’s a point where it’s not about drama but about actual human limits. I mean I don’t know you so ... maybe?
You can’t undertake a hero’s journey without psychedelics. That why your stuck. If your interested in going deep your going to need shrooms, LSD, or Ayahuasca.
George McWilliams, Meditation over Medication! Joe Rogan might agree with you because people who have been doing drugs their entire life think it’s the only way.
At 71, I can attest that this IS the essence of the hero's journey. And it's so freeing and grounding at the same time!
Become the character you wish had helped you along the way. Namaste
Goddamn Yoda.
wow this is a good one!
This is a really good one
Di / Internal - "I do what I do because it's right, because it's decent - and above all - because it's kind - just that - just kind"
omg this reference 🙏
I understood that reference!
Nice one
I might need to play this video on a monthly basis.
I agree.. An intj with anxiety 👀💔
Omg... I think I’m growing up...
I have SMART goals and systems. And I’m enjoying it. This is huge for an INFP 😮
SMART Goal
I will do my evening routine-scheduling and preparing for next day’s activities (snacks, clothes, shower, alarm) doing yoga for 15 min to wind down, journaling, lights out by 10:30, listen to bedtime meditation- 5 days this week. I have set a daily reminder in my phone with encouraging words to remind me of how much better I feel if I do. 🦋👍
Leah Jn I don’t know... the more I watch these videos the less sure I am about my type... 😄. Now I’m leaning towards INFJ... maybe because I’m not suffering from chronic pain and depression any more-which I was for 3 years. Those factors definitely influence how you perceive and operate in the world. Also I’m okay with the mystery of not knowing what type I am.
My routines are loosely structured and I make them fun.
I prefer using afFORMations to trick my mind into action and empowering self-talk. (They are life affirmations but in the form of a question ie... Affirmation: “I am organized and prepared every day.” becomes “Why am I so organized and prepared for my day?” Or “Why is it so easy to be organized and prepared every day?” or my favorite “Why is it so easy and FUN to be organized and prepared for my day?” 😃 You can probably feel the change in mindset right away.
@Leah Jn Im def an INFP (savior Di demon Oe) and Fi allows us to move in OUR own way. It’s literally only us on our little path down a dark lonely road. Te is why we are on that dark lonely road. It is hard to live out in reality because reality doesn’t seem to be for us, because it doesn’t follow us. The path becomes bright when we see that the world wants us and praises OUR Fi, but the world praises it when we get out of Fi universe and go out in Te universe.
I love the accidental Stoic philosophy in this video. Absolutely, only focus on your character! Your character is what is important and will bring you to edudaimonia (mental wellbeing).
It's facinating how this completely describes the goals of 12-step programs.
Why are y’all ALWAYS on point with the content I need and topics I’m struggling with prior to videos? God bless.
This is one of the best videos y’all have released.
we all struggle with the same stuff
energyman100 I’ve heard and seen that phrase so much today
synchronicity
“In the coming kingdom the last will be first and the first will be last “
“Keep on seeking the kingdom first and its righteousness and all these things will be added to you”
I live by these words 😁
Dave and Shan are my relationship goals, unrelated but true nonetheless
Truth
Amaaaaaziiiing!
I am under the impression that my best friend won his two battles in his 20s already. Exceptionally awesome guy.
Thanks for this message, guys. So needed.
This is great. I will need to watch this 10 more times to fully absorb.
Love the vid guys! This was so on point. I got a lot of value out of this. Love the comparison grid too. It’s a well presented distillation of everything you’ve been teaching the last 2 years.
"Your mom is Donald Trump" - DSP 2020
Donald Momp
You are Adolf Hitler
Oooh my gosh lol! I just bought a Nintendo switch thinking it would take me back to my childhood. Breaking news: I’m still an adult 😤😭😢
Breaking news there's people in their 50s and 80s that are playing video games
Wow, this video guys! One of the best ones.
1:45-2:30 took me a while to understand. Trying to adopt that belief system now.
As a Catholic, it really struck me when you did your hero's journey series how it corresponded almost exactly with the spiritual journey of mystics like St John of the Cross and Saint Teresa of Avila. It's so interesting to hear you make the correlation to Christianity. Please keep the great videos coming.
A lot of this message reminds me of Pirkey Avoth (Ethics of the forefathers)
Here are some examples:
"Be not like servants who serve their master for the sake of receiving a reward" - Pirkey Avoth 2:3
"Do not separate yourself from the community, and do not be sure of yourself until your day of death." - Pirkey Avoth 2:4
"In a place where there are no worthy men, strive to be worthy." - Pirkey Avoth 2:5
"Love work, and do not admire official positions, and do not become too acquainted with the governing power." - Pirkey Avoth 1:10
Hence "Go Within. The Kingdom of Heaven is Within"
This is exactly the breakdown I needed!
i dont really just watch these videos just to learn about myself, it's not only that, but I also watch them to learn the messages that each and every one of them portray, and I take them, stash them in my sack and head on to the sunset because i know forwards the only way to go
To be fair I think Dave hates wearing white because he's some kind of Autumn season and only Winters like Shan look harmonious in pure white. Wearing your right or wrong colours can totally affect you, even if you have zero clue wtf I'm talking about haha
this is such a great video. I appreciate your channel so much. you guys are so doing so well at applying personality type knowledge for real growth. thank you!
"new shirt" - the same fucking shirt that he always wears, just a different color lol
Easily one of thee BEST UA-cam channel you guys r the best ty for your knowledge saved me from wasting my life going in circles
The left side looks like The Dark Side of The Force, the right side is The Light. Fear, Anger, Hate and Suffering, they're all the same thing. Only honest humility can keep one from this self destructive path.
I wonder how much the Oi and Oe struggles are connected to the cultural influence of captalism, since it pushes us into individualization and consumerism. As a ENTP managing my fears and anxieties is what I struggle the most, I know what I gotta do to solve my problems, doing it is a whole different thing
Wow! Great message in this video. Thank you! Now I realize why I felt so liberated when I downsized into a small condo and got rid of all my shit. lol Side note; I just realized why I refused to give out candy/prizes to my students as a form of reward as so many teachers do-- extrinsic rewards prevent children from developing the ability to construct their own intrinsic reward system.
09:32 - The Matrix - Neo at the oracles
This is so good!!!!! Helpful!!!!
INTJ female here. I can completely relate to white. I only have black, grey, purple and red mix and match clothes. 😳🤣😬😂
I just realised.. i watch and enjoy so many of your videos. And i forget to press like.. actually i forget to do this with most videos i enjoy. But i will make a conscious effort to do that.
Generally, their best video. I think they need to tweak the first line (Di) and the third line (Oi). They have to UNDERSTAND the influence of the CONTEXT to take proper responsibility. And they are controlling - judging by their employee expectations. Their shadows are sneaking in there.
Yes I will improve myself, but while driving my sports coupe. What's the problem ; )
hahahaha! =D
@@nirgunawish I totally agree. Not happiness, just fun.
Love this.
Love these two.
amazing
Very good 👍🏾 you 2. Your channel is helping me a lot!
Man I want an audi so bad. Spoke to my soul, Dave haha
Unhealthy INTPs are so Zen and satesfied with reality that we accept our lot of underachievment too. Not alway a good thing.
We convinces ourself that the negative reality is acceptable to live with it.
Replace panic with self-loathing.
Nothing is ever urgent anymore.
I like all of this and it makes sense in a big way.
BUT Im trying to understand the “Di Oi” letters and such and don’t get it yet.
Great video
As an ISTP somehow i stack everything on that "internal" Character and become zen. In zen stage i don't need much. But if i get a partner then the family still need social marterials things and in zen stage im lack of Goal/drive. Now i'm trying for Zen+ end game goal.
Great video guys!
White is way too much pressure lol
"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be gathered unto you", or to put it a different way, "Just because you shot Jesse James, doesn't mean you are him"
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo hahahaha! The two are not equivalent, but I agree with Adam that both the Biblical passage and the other comment speak to the topic of the vlog
I love you guys. You are so funny.
oh i just realised stoicism is the hero's journey. don't know how i didn't see that sooner
If all OPs had was this... for people to realize this and track it in their lives and realize how they affect every single experience, we would become mighty... 4 imbalances.
IDK I don't see how the whole getting zen and congruent and at peace with everything is an end in itself....
Cause you got a whole life... What are you gonna do with all that time? I feel like these fears and desires drive people to move through life and then when they get old and retire, they get zen or whatever.
But what about the time in between? I see how there can be goals void of need or ego, but then I get to like fixing the whole world and how would I do that? There's so much going on everywhere that I feel like I just couldn't do enough to make a change.
It gets to this place where even if all the wars were stopped and a system was created for everybody to live freely and have their needs met and we got to this place of the whole planet being maximally healthy and abundant; What would people be doing? Wouldn't they just start making up new conflicts to solve? New power dynamics, imbalances, etc?
Even if we were all zen, wouldn't we do this out of sheer boredom? Then maybe we have already gotten to that place a few times and all that's left to do is just experience life to the fullest and worry about being zen when you're old.
Cool video on the topic of hypocrisy & personal Responsibility/Accountability.
What I don't quite understand:
In your D/O table, each Di/De & Oi/Oe has an extroverted & introverted side.
?
What you're seeing is the immature expression of the function on the left and the mature expression of the function on the right.
@@adamhayes528 but which one is who? whos is the DI? who is the De?
@@BigChungusOriginal I think it's when it's a demon, or a place of struggle on the hero's journey. It's an example on the left of unhealthy expression of the function, and what your realization/destination could be when you're mature
I don’t care for white either. I do like almond and off-white, but white drains me too. Hmm.
I wore a light top to the doctor's recently coz all of the other darker ones have gotten tight since I've put on weight heehee. So it was weird wearing a light colour. (I don't shop.. most of my clothes are hand me downs :) coz i hate shopping) so anyway i got over the lightness of the top because it fit me and that's what mattered in that moment heeheehee -infj
Pa-ji-ma
"You're stupid"
"Your mom!"
"Your mom donald trump"
*gasp*
line crossed XD
Erk she laughs but if only she knew how true it is. I can’t have super bright colors or super dark colors as comforters for my bed but somewhere in the light pastel middle. I get the same drain effect if I don’t resonate with the color or aesthetic. 🤣
Wow! Best video ever! to the point!! - also, yep white shirts never stay white ;)
How come you guys don't talk about our biases anymore?
I can relate to it so much (Di)
Is this what happens when its in the dom position? (1st and 2nd function)? Cause I can see myself having issues with all 4 LOL
What does the D and O mean?
Decider and Observer, but more specifically your deciders are your feeling and thinking functions (Fi, Fe, Ti, Te) and observers are your sensing and intuition functions (Si, Se, Ni, Ne). Deciders are used to... Make decisions... And observers are for taking in and processing information about the world.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo Thanks for improving my reply!
D is judgement O is perception
Play time!
Someone Explain me Di Hero's journey please
who is the De in the table? the First guy or the second one? is the hero Journey of the De being a person of your word?
Is the hero journey from the Di Manipulation and validation? or i am just getting things reversed?
in other words, is the De into a introverted Hero s Journey
is the Di into a Extraverted Heros journey?
In this video, the correct path for the hero's journey is always the introverted path. I too was confused by that at first: Everything about Jungian typing reflects balance, complementarity, wholeness...so why do we suddenly all need to become introverts?
I guess the answer is that self-improvement is by nature an introverted process. And that it can be followed up with some kind of extraverted "sharing" process. The latter was not really the topic of this video, though Dave & Shan alluded to it briefly. At this character-building phase of the journey, all the extraverted options on the chart are premature and thus inappropriate.
so in short :
Di: i am better than you, because you're a failure /i've fucked up but i'm still cool
De: i'll do it but you gotta do this and that .../ YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR!!!
Oi: yeah i can micromanage my life 20 years in ahead/ good i already have my favourites things planned out
Oe: i'll be the first person to lay foot on every planet ever/ we already have the sun , the trees , this ketamine it's all good
Cookie 🍪
All that content and I'm sitting here thinking.. but Donald Trump doesn't drink alcohol?
Yeah; he should stop acting like he does then
09:55 i'm like... what? You have a problem with that? Me walking through the world like: Wake me up when russian soldiers are in Germany again.
Funny how you describe Zen philosophy, then skip over it as you misnomer and overlook it as a part of the whole.
Although the scientific validation of the conclusions of the subject matter presented here is a possible future event, for now at least I feel like there may some insight and wisdom going on; to be sure, it feels true, constructive and positive. It's pulling me in somewhat. I find myself a bit alienated though by the references/analogies from religious teachings, but then that may just be a significant frame of reference from their life experiences. I'll get over it thinking and feeling it through. Maybe try it on. I can always dismiss whatever may prove false. The cost to me approaches zero.
This video is well made and informative, but I just have to say, as someone who lives in Europe, my guys, we love America
Its the golden country and we're all trying to get there
So yeah I wanted to correct you on that as its incorrect
Some people hate it, some love it
There is no uniform consensus
Why you hating on America and Trump ! Stop chasing Likes.
I've been watching and enjoying Dave for years, and then he was gone. Now I see this familiar friendly face again, and I'm drawn into the deep subject matter. But wait, somethings different. As I listen, the vocabulary has become a little rough around the edges. Words that some people use in their daily lives and never even think about their source, or real meaning. Words like screwed, sucks, and many others. I can listen, but for me it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. Now two videos in a row, and without warning you're dropping "f" bombs. Ten years ago I was thinking of stopping by your house, just to meet you and Val. I have relatives in Glendale and Glendora. Now, maybe not. Foul language has no place in my life. Not in my home, and not in the people I allow into my life. If you're going to put your smiling face out in public, and you care about what people think. You might consider cleaning up your act. Others may consider the content not worth the verbal abuse as well. Think about it.
Wrong, go back to ur desk and find another topic. 🤣🤣🤣
.... ok so 1st, great advice, BUT lol... do you two honestly think you could be responsible for an actual revolution lol. I love this advice... but seriously come on. There’s a point where it’s not about drama but about actual human limits. I mean I don’t know you so ... maybe?
No offense, but this is pretty incomprehensible
You can’t undertake a hero’s journey without psychedelics. That why your stuck. If your interested in going deep your going to need shrooms, LSD, or Ayahuasca.
That's just not true :/
Not sure if trolling and that's concerning
"You're"
George McWilliams, Meditation over Medication! Joe Rogan might agree with you because people who have been doing drugs their entire life think it’s the only way.