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In my opinion this video did a terrible job summarizing the show! If I knew nothing about baby reindeer and I only saw this video about it, I'd never watch it. Baby Reindeer has so much more depth, horror and despair. Your summarization of the show contradicts all of that! Do better.
Just watched it today. I got chills while watching it, not because it was heartbreaking to watch but because I know someone whose mental illness or symptoms resembles Martha's behaviour. One of my family members has Erotomania - a type of delusional disorder that makes one think that someone is in love with them even if they never met them in their life. That family member of mine is 20-30% of what Martha is like and it is still scary. Not sure how to describe it but she is out of control without medication. Hard core obsession over someone whom she never met in person, Stalking their family and friends online, searching everything about them online, hating their partners and female friends, standing in front of their houses for hours, staying nearby their houses. It is literally scary. Police get involved. It is a nightmare. She gets absolutely furious on anyone who tries to make her realize that she is not normal or she needs help. This is heartbreaking to watch. The toll it took on my family is unimaginable. Finally she is getting medical help now but who knows how long she will agree to stick to it. Real Martha also needs serious help. Her delusions will never stop unless she gets professional help. And the lead also had to go through a lot, I could literally relate to some of his struggles related to Martha like thinking about what she will do next to destroy his life. And when he shared his own story and opened up about the assault that happened to him, oh my god I cried so hard. He was indeed naive but he was brave too to share his story and absolutely honest about it. It was ugly and brutal but it felt real. Everyone gets lost sometime, this phase comes and goes. . This show was engaging and I absolutely loved everyone's acting. Lead actor and the actor who played Martha both nailed it. Considering the lead actor actually went through this in real life, wrote it, researched it to make a show about it and acted the whole thing. No one could have done it better then him because he actually went through all this shit himself. OMG what a series. 4.5 stars.
No, but I will be watching it. I've dealt with stalkers, so I'm curious how much it resembles my experiences. It's scary to have someone mentally unstable, narcissistic and completely obsessed try to get around restraining orders.
The blanket of immunity given to the uk police doesn’t help with the issue. There have been so many cases where victims of stalking call the police, the police don’t do anything about it, the victim ends up being murdered by their stalker, and the police aren’t ever held accountable for their negligence because of their blanket of immunity. Not surprising the police weren’t helpful to this guy either. Thank god he didn’t end up getting murdered
The number of people who blamed him for what was happening to his ex to her mum. The police who down played it. Why do we live in a culture which thinks it's fine to blame the victim of a crime no matter the crome people always blame the victim.
@@cv8499Sadly, also the case in Australia too. We’ve had nearly 30 women mu*dered since the start of 2024 alone. With over half of them perpetrated by a sta*ker, with most if not all being a previous partner of said victims. Again, most if not all of the perpetrators were out on bail or had orders out on them when they perpetrated the at*ack/s. There was an incident last week, where a Western Australian woman was ki*lled by her ex, who than unalived himself and in his last letter he literally bragged about her never getting justice for what he had done! It’s a horribly f*cked system worldwide. Oh, and there’s the case from this year also of a well known tv presenter and his partner being mu*dered by his ‘presumed ex’, who also may have sta*ked him in the weeks/ months before the at*ack and was at the time an active New South Wales police officer and perpetrated the kil*ings with his assigned police fir*arm.
The scene at the end with his father made me cry. "I grew up in the catholic church". That tells it all, unfortunately. Donnie reaches out for a handshake and his dad goes in for a hug.
Anytime Donnie reached for a hug before his father's confession, the dad always shook his hand (scene where he left home to talk to Martha after he went to check on his parents; Donnie hugs his mother, then the father automatically but he goes for a handshake). After the father shared his secret with his son, he could finally hug him as he saw a fellow victim in him, and they both were joined in tragedy.
He went back and screwed her, messed with her head then wondered why she kept showing back up, Richard is a horrible person who literally brought everything in the show onto himself... He's apathetic naive boy and I just cringed the entire show at his pathetic everything... Jesus I can't stand him as a person, good show but he sucks
I agree. When I was a kid, boundaries applied to countries, not people. But now, people can gain way too much access to your private life. Really bizarre story and shocking film.
In my opinion, he is not the victim he is trying to portray he led her on He is a nasty bully and got what he was asking for On top of that, he entrapped her she did nothing if he didn't like her he could have easily blocked her emails. He is unwell he is not what he thinks he is just another arrogant creative
Honestly with this video, basically summarized the series step by step and doesn't do any contrasting or comparing of the real event until the end just to say the scariest thing about the series is that the stalker is still out there, missing the point entirely of the series and not even mentioning the sexual abuse shown in the series by an entirely different character
This is a very scary situation and very brave of him to show it cause the laws obviously need to change but also how he makes sure that people know she also needs help, serious medical help.
well also cuz it's hard for guys to come out about a stalker/abuser cuz of the gender stereotypes. it sucks for the guys who are in this type of situation
I don't think he could disguise her so much that she wouldn't know considering he's playing himself, and surely she'd recognize him. Anyway, it was only after I finished the series that I understood the main actor is also the real life victim. I cannot believe he could put himself in those scenarios again, that is so brave.
He's disguising her for her protection, not his. He's still protecting her. Even though he shouldn't. Saying she's a victim too, it's not her fault. She still has a hold on him no mater what he says. She's disgusting!
@@Bree5threeseems a bit narcissistic to do the role yourself, clearly it wasn’t as bad as he claimed if he could play himself in the movie. Seems like he’s just money hungry n looking for fame.
Watched it this past Saturday and part of Sunday and felt so sad the entire day. Such a heavy subject matter I don’t know what I was expecting. I went into it totally blind
When he did that speech on stage and started breaking down. I really felt that. That whole speech was like someone putting in words my feelings about things which have happened to me. I really didn’t expect this series to go the way it did but it was amazing and emotional at the same time
I had a stalker when I was in college. To say it was a nightmare would be an understatement. It wasn’t until my stalker tried to assault me IN OUR CLASS in front of our classmates and the professor that something was done. He was kicked out and trespassed from campus.
@@hammadferoz2224 Both - he would repeatedly ask me out, and I would keep reminding him that I was in a relationship. He would also follow me all over campus, and would watch me have my lunches in the break room with my group of friends. He would just stand there on the opposite side of the glass and stare at me. The stress of it all got so bad that my relationship at the time took a turn and my bf broke up with me. On the day I was assaulted I was talking to two of my friends about the break up and how I just wanted to focus on myself and school since finals were coming up. My stalker (let’s call him Brad) overheard us and tried to ask me out again. At this point all my friends knew, and I was getting sick of Brad’s shit, told him to go away and that I was DEFINITELY not interested. All of a sudden, without saying anything, Brad grabbed me by my wrist and tried to drag me out of the classroom. For context I’m 5’1, about 130lbs, and fairly athletic. Brad was 6’5” and twice my weight in muscle. I start screaming, and my friends are screaming and punching him. The professor came in along with a bunch of students and staff he was talking to, and got Brad off of me. My parents were called to come get me since they didn’t feel comfortable with me driving myself home. Brad was kicked out and trespassed from all of the campus branches. It was a hot mess.
I did make it to the end. It got very dark and sad and was unbelievable as a true story at points! The last episode was particularly poignant and I am glad I finished it. My regards to Mr. Gadd. He is an amazing person, actor and writer. Truth is truly stranger than fiction. I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who has not watched it yet, but when he makes a "big speech", I would have stood up and hugged him. It broke my heart! - Fellow stalked person. I literally had to move 5,000 miles away to rid myself of my stalker in the early 2000s!
there were some parts very hard to watch. i can’t imagine what the protagonist had to endure. i hope the so called producer got his time in jail as well. maybe part II?
I feel like people miss the fact that he also has made a lot of mistakes ? In the way he wasn't clear with Martha from the beginning, let her interpret stuff even though he knew she was crazy... People seemed to miss the nuances, the fact that *he sees himself in her and he urges us to try to have empathy and understand* I feel like this is what the last scene is about *spoilers* when he is crying at the bar, finally understanding how much she interpreted everything, that she projected so much onto him, was so attached because he looked like the only thing that gave her love when she was a child in a abusive household : her reindeer. And as he is crying, the bartender offers him a drink and he looks up to him, and you can see it in his eyes : he gets it ! How a simple act of kindness can mean the world and how, as Martha was very mentally unwell, unstable it started for her a whole obsession.
i mean he was just trying to be a nice guy. it's like hard to do a good gesture for someone without them taking it seriously. most just brush it off as a good thing someone did that day whereas someone could take it as a serious interest.
@@journey1186 I agree! I am not necessarily talking about him offering a drink, but what came after. Yk the times where he joked about making love to her, going out with her, and other things I don't exactly remember in the 3 first episodes. He even says it that Martha was helping him in a way, putting some drama in his life, giving him confidence etc... he loved her laugh, the way she saw him..... I also think that the series shows that "being a nice guy" isn't always great, and that people should be more careful and understand that not everyone, as you said, is able to differentiate between : "he must have done that cause he is in love w me" than "he is just being nice". Martha interprets every little thing and hold on to it (looks a lot like erotomania).
This is such a well done series. I rarely binge watch Netflix limited series but I could not stop watching. It starts out as a black comedy but halfway into the series it really takes a dark disturbing turn. The two leads deserve Emmys for their performances.
A wonderful limited series I wound up binge watching it! I had no idea what it was about other than the small info blurb. It REALLY took a dark turn in episode 4. There were times where I thought 🤦🏽♀️why isn’t he doing this or that instead but I have to remind myself, I was not in his shoes and all was explained in episode 4. What a brave and compassionate man. To have been through all that, laying it all out there and STILL managing some compassion for his stalker! Incredible. Great piece of work!
I found the TV producer/writer incident to be truly worse 😞 1. Because it had actually gone physical multiple times 2. The man never acted aggresively or threatening, that's why he never saw him as a danger 3. There were drugs involved 4. It tampered with the thing he wanted the most ouf of life for his career. 5. I feel like it had a much deeper impact in life than the stalking. He could've gotten paranoid from the stalking but developing a romantic relationship and the way to sexually relate to other people seemed to have a MUCH bigger impact.
Stalking is legit scary. It should be taken more seriously worldwide!!! The show looks interesting but I highly doubt my PTSD would let me look at it. Kudos to Mr. Gadd for surviving through it and being able to persevere beyond the stalking.
Seems like they stalked each other. He seemed to search out all her social media himself. I think he liked the attention, cause it’s clear his comedy career is a failure.
Men bringing charges of stalking against women is rare even though it does happen and people take women more seriously.It's not that they don't believe in it's just that they don't notice it happening to men nearly as often as it does to women I believe it. They need to take a lot more seriously before he gets killed. Bless his heart for not being afraid to come forward.
True. And even when it is a man stalking a woman, they don't really do anything about it. Add to that police not taking it seriously when a man is the one being stalked, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Stalkers in general are just not taken seriously enough. You can use every legal means there is in the book and it won’t be enough. This one lady she worked at hooters one of her customers got obsessed with her. She first changed her name and moved to another state. Only took him 3 months to find her. So then she filed for a restraining order it was then denied. He shot her and then himself two days later. A man who is obviously deranged enough to harass a hooters girl relentlessly for weeks and then spend 3 months tracking her down and when it is a known fact he posessss guns at some point it should’ve been obvious the man was unhinged.
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580wtf, did u watch the show at all she harassed him it had nothing to do with her being fat if she was normal, she won't have assaulted his girlfriend
The only thing that I was disappointed with after watching this was the way his relationship with Teri ended. I kept hoping he would go see her and ask for a second chance.
I’ve read A very private school by Charles Spencer, he was abused by a women when he was 11 years old, it left him with problems for many years, the book is horrific in my eyes but a fascinating read on the class system in the 1970s. I’d think it would make a good Netflix series
It was so sad and he did such a good job casting Martha in a sympathetic light as much as showing how deranged she was. You can see how it would be hard to feel sorry for a person like that. We all have toxic relationships that pull us back in time and again.
he lead her on perfectly knowing what she's capable of and he got what he wanted from her but when he's got a girlfriend and she became out of control (as you expected ), he sued her for stalking...talk about playing the victim. and he also knowingly kept went back to that man to get assaulted. He is the one keep things happening to him he's asking for it. blaming everything on others and never learn, he will invite more trouble.
His stalker was probably giving him the attention his partner was not but he was not sexually attracted to his stalker. Made his head all wonky, poor guy was torn in two. 😩
@@someoneout-there2165 he knows he doesn't have any feelings for her but used her anyway for his own benefit. poor grown up guy has no brain to make his own decision huh? he's a selfish person and so are you
I had a stalker lite…he would call and text incessantly, leave me notes and gifts on my car, drive by my home. I had a small child and lived in a ground floor apartment. I was so scared. I moved out of state.
What’s the point of this video? It just summarizes the series. Doesn’t critique it. Or doesn’t talk about any facts that were not covered in the series. Doesn’t add any new value. I think the title is misleading
A 12 minute commercial for the show? Or a “movie recap” video that is often more desirable than watching the movie, or in this case an entire series. That’s “the point” for me. I clicked the like button l cuz I don’t have nor want a Netflix subscription anymore but it’s still interesting to see what’s on there in case I change my mind. Was that helpful?
Id been hearing all the hype but knew nothing about it. Before making the decision whether to go down the rabbit hole, I looked for a short video that would give me an overview. That's why I clicked. Think they did a great job.
Episode 4 of Baby Reindeer takes a dark and gripping turn, delving deep into themes of abuse that resonate with many viewers, including myself. As a male who has experienced abuse at the hands of a woman, I found this episode particularly poignant, and it struck a nerve in a way that was both painful and cathartic.
Wow--you need to scream SPOLIER ALERT for this video! The Baby Reindeer series is fantastic. However, you revealed almost all of the story. (I just finished watching it). Also, I wanted to know what were the actually events Richard Gadd went through as you implied with the title.
When I was 19 the place I worked at told me they'd gotten a restraining order on a homeless guy for making threats of sexual assault about the female employees and me most specifically. That if I ever saw him even in my personal life i should call the police. Thankfully he never followed me outside of work but it was still scary to know someone was speaking about me that way.
I feel that everyone saying he is at fault, that he led her on, etc., I can see your POV(he could've changed his number, his email). However, Martha sexually assaulted him, attacked his ex, physically assaulted the person he was dating, threatened his family, and broke a glass over his head.
When you find out why Martha calls Donny baby deer, at the end is so damn sad, me being and empathic person i couldn't stop feeling sad for her and let go of a little tear. 😢
The most disturbing real life story I have ever seen or heard. Only the alledged stalker and victim know who's telling the truth. The actress that plays the stalker is absolutely fantastic. An oscar actress waiting in the wings .
After all the crazy loops and emotions of the series The Martha scene in court as the door shuts was prob the saddest scene with also him finding out why martha called him baby reindeer
I started watching this show the other night and as a woman, it angers me that it took until the 2020’s to take male victims of stalking, sexual harassment and assault seriously and not in a joking manner. Like every time when the topic is on stalking it’s almost always seems like the male is the stalker and the woman is the victim, or it’s a woman stalking another woman, but when the man is the victim they aren’t taken seriously. Hopefully #BabyReindeer will bring an end to that
When I found out it was the actual guy playing himself, I had so much respect for him. Including those terrible R scenes. Having to go through that again even though it was fake on there. I wouldn't be able to do it.
Oh, please. He was not paying attention, so he got in trouble. And that actress agreed to play this role based on her looks, not on how threatening she could get. Well, I hope she got paid really well and she can sort the rest of her life now.
If a man had said that about a woman refusing to report it I imagine you'd have a few words for him like. That it's hard for women to come to terms with it then have the courage to go up against their abuser especially if their are high powered. Add in the shame and the ridicule and the victim blaming which goes on when women come forward. Why would any of that be any different for a man? With men there is the added aspect of sociaties attitude that SA only affecting women. Men don't get SA they cause it, only weak or gay men get sa. As you saw in the show it caused him to question his sexuality due to the fact he kept going back until he was ultimatly R'd.
This is happening to me right now i was just nice to her a few times and we had a nice conversation and that was it now she stands in her backyard lookin at my back window and door waiting for me to come out everyday i just try to avoid her
I’m glad his story is out there. There are way too many lonely, mentally ill people out there that misconstrue a gesture of kindness. As a woman I’ve had to deal with what most would probably assume to be decent manners and being humane taken to mean something else in the minds of others. I’ve had men whom have impersonated family to find out where I work and even which hospital I was in one time. Another incident had one of my stalkers sleeping on the pavement, outside my apartment door day after day while I was at work. I was nearly kicked out and told I would have to pay a fine for breaking my lease because of that moron. Don’t even get me started on the police. I made so many reports, but it was all in vain. Nothing was ever done. I have to take Xanax almost every day due to my past experience with stalking. I have severe social anxiety. These people ruin lives!
I heard about this show when it came out but I didn't know it had to do with stalking and the actor/comedian went through the same thing. Stalking needs to be taken seriously from the beginning before it gets worse.
Some authorities don't take stalking seriously and it leads to tragic consequences. And there does need to be new laws regarding stalking, but what I liked about the series was that it addressed that she needs help. Great series.
I have a stalker , she's my neighbour, I had to leave my own home, go back to my parents, she has found where I am, she abuses me daily on social media, she's threatens my family, my friends, follows me to work and damages my home, smashing windows , harassing me daily, insulting me, threatening violence, spreads rhoumers, she's an awful person, but I certainly wouldn't blame it on mental health, yes I agree these people need help, but I have mental health, I know right from wrong! Police need to be stricter with prosecuting these people, but also possibly look at medicating them with the correct drugs
Soooo I saw the show… while watching I could honestly see where perspective can make a big difference. Especially when it comes to who’s telling the story. Clearly Martha is mentally ill. He’s very much basking and even manipulating her psychotic behavior to his benefit. Especially considering his love of fame that he really wanted and showed even in his own telling of the story.
If he was so scared of her why didn’t he just block her on social media? The fact that she was able to send 40,000 emails tells me he wasn’t too scared or worried since he never BLOCKED her.🤦🏽♀️
Whats scary is the fact that when a man is put in this position and has these type of things happen to him that normally are viewed to only happen to woman, its like" really? You couldnt handle a woman? I dont believe you. Women have had it worse. " which yeah ,maybe women have had it worse because the female body is seen as more sexual and attractive than a male. Imo. But i can tell u 1st hand, as well as other males whove left comments, that this is way more common than anyone thinks. Its just viewed differently. My situation was not the same as this show, but it was a woman who was on a strong anti depresant and she drank profusely every night, so every night shed change into a diff person being drunk and say the most horrible things about me, and physically abuse me. Me being raised not to lay a hand on a woman( unless shes going to kill me ) just took it. And the next morning its" i dont remember that at all. I would never do those things. Im so sorry. Itll never happened again". Blah blah blah. And when she decided to have an orgy with multiple men and women at a sex party ( no im not kidding or exaggerating 1 bit) i left. She admitted it because i knew by calling that night asking where she was and one of the participants grabbed the phone,DRUNK, and said" stop calling , shes fine, shes in good hands. Well take good car of her. Better than you can, BRO. you dont give her what she needs, and we will". So i waoted til she came home at 5am,, and i grilled her u til she came clean. Probably, she wanted out of the relationship because i always " dampered her fun" by not letting her drive hammered, reminding her of her 2 kids at home, etc. I know im horrible. But that was 2008, and i got over it, but theres plenty of men who have had things happen and just because they were raised to treat women with respect and not lay a hand on them, that is used to somes advantage. Now there are PLENTY of amazong women who would never do that. But please, dont think of it as a joke if you hear that a male is in the role that is usually reserved for a woman. Cause while my story is 1000% true, it isnt as bad as other guys have had it. And im not in any way trying to downgrade what women have gone through because like ive said, i know because of the beauty and sexuality a woman can represent, i know theyve had it worse than men ,in most cases. Dont twist my words or think im trying to say ive some victim. I see myself as someone who bettered their life and let the experience guide how i am now and in the future.
The fact that people feel sympathy for Martha’s crazy azz makes no sense she needs to go to prison for life she is dangerous and a villain not a victim
Very disturbing show, I watched it all in one sitting. I looked it up to see if it was actually true, as you can see by comment. I'm glad he's safe and okay. But I'd be careful if I were him. Seems the actual woman is coming forward and saying she was the one being stalked. This suits her behavior in the film as she was trying to blame him as well. It just opens your eyes to how manipulative people can be. She is a compulsive liar and narcissist. After one bad situation it's very easy for me to pick them out now. Be safe Mr. Gad! If you haven't already, I'd make sure you have a bodyguard!
Im not shocked by the number of people blaming the victim for what happened to them as it seems the norm to blame the victim for what happened, however i was shocked at the fact women blamed him for what happened. "Why didn't he report it?" We have seen time and time again what happens to women who report their abuse they get their names dragged through the mud they get told "Well she must have lead him on." or "Did you see what she was wearing." We even had the Me Too movement but i guess only women get to have that as women are the only gender who get SA, R or attacked men don't. Except they do, however due to how sociaty treats male victims of these crimes they get the same victim blaming that women suffer plus "Well maybe he was gay and liked it." "If he'd only faught back harder." "Why did he keep going round there he must have been asking for it." I find it odd that when the victim is male these is so much less compassion then if they were a woman, as I said before sociaty sees these types of crime to only affect one gender when infact men suffer too but are far less likely to report it due to the amount of abuse they incure from the general public. Image in this had been a female comic who showed what she went through and the purpitrator was male would we have gotten comments like "Why didn't he turn in the guy that Sa'd him? He listened to hours of phone calls to catch his stalker. Interesting where the focus lands" I'll point put that that comment was left by a woman. Would she have said the same if had happened to a woman or woulds she have been really supportive of her? I expect so but because it happened to a man its good to victim blame. As i said before I guess the Me Too movement was only meant for women who suffered abuse not men or would she also criticised the women for burying that trauma and concentrating on the more recent trauma? Cose no matter what way you cut it he suffered a hell of a lot of trauma and the SA he'd buried for years and it had affected him for years. But sure lets carry on blaming the victim for being the victim except if said victim is a woman then we rally round and support her whilst stomping on the male victim of the same crimes.
what you omit to consider is the intense situation in this specific story. ι i do not believe people are blaming the victim , they are questioning how it is possible not to take some measures to protect yourself when you see it coming, when it is clear that the person stalking you is beyond "normal' .Same for women victims. When the signs are so obvious for such a long time and you ignore them you are a part of your problem. Male or female it is just the same. And that doesn' t mean that the stalker or abuser is not guilty . If you know that someone is a convicted rapist and you go out with him expecting him to respect you because that is what he is supposed to do, and then he rapes you, he obviously is 100% guilty but you are also 100% stupid.
Here is a little complimentary Twitch streamer Anita's case's mention. She was stalked by a dangerous man who threatened to kill her pets, to the point where the fuck was CHASING her and people had to help her escape, and the British police literally did NOTHING.
He gives her free drinks, goes along with her innuendoes, goes on a date with her, follows her home, accepted her friend request on fb knowing she’s a stalker then kept hanging out with her and talking to her. Takes 6 months to report her and omits her criminal past. He also repeatedly goes back to the dude offering drugs and repeatedly lets him molest him. He’s the catalyst for all of the chaos he endures so I find it difficult to have sympathy for him.
He bought her drinks out of kindness cause he felt bad. Also he told her it was not a date when they were at a restaurant. He set boundary he also probably accepted that request because he wanted to gather information on her odd behavior also he had to collect lots of evidence on her because its really hard to prove your being stalked. Quit victim blaming.
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I tired to watch it. I just couldn't get into it.
I was just searching on Netflix this weekend, Decided to watch and I was blown away! The ending was perfect! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
In my opinion this video did a terrible job summarizing the show! If I knew nothing about baby reindeer and I only saw this video about it, I'd never watch it. Baby Reindeer has so much more depth, horror and despair.
Your summarization of the show contradicts all of that! Do better.
Just watched it today. I got chills while watching it, not because it was heartbreaking to watch but because I know someone whose mental illness or symptoms resembles Martha's behaviour. One of my family members has Erotomania - a type of delusional disorder that makes one think that someone is in love with them even if they never met them in their life. That family member of mine is 20-30% of what Martha is like and it is still scary. Not sure how to describe it but she is out of control without medication. Hard core obsession over someone whom she never met in person, Stalking their family and friends online, searching everything about them online, hating their partners and female friends, standing in front of their houses for hours, staying nearby their houses. It is literally scary. Police get involved. It is a nightmare. She gets absolutely furious on anyone who tries to make her realize that she is not normal or she needs help. This is heartbreaking to watch. The toll it took on my family is unimaginable. Finally she is getting medical help now but who knows how long she will agree to stick to it. Real Martha also needs serious help. Her delusions will never stop unless she gets professional help. And the lead also had to go through a lot, I could literally relate to some of his struggles related to Martha like thinking about what she will do next to destroy his life. And when he shared his own story and opened up about the assault that happened to him, oh my god I cried so hard. He was indeed naive but he was brave too to share his story and absolutely honest about it. It was ugly and brutal but it felt real. Everyone gets lost sometime, this phase comes and goes. . This show was engaging and I absolutely loved everyone's acting. Lead actor and the actor who played Martha both nailed it. Considering the lead actor actually went through this in real life, wrote it, researched it to make a show about it and acted the whole thing. No one could have done it better then him because he actually went through all this shit himself. OMG what a series. 4.5 stars.
No, but I will be watching it. I've dealt with stalkers, so I'm curious how much it resembles my experiences. It's scary to have someone mentally unstable, narcissistic and completely obsessed try to get around restraining orders.
Stalking laws in our country are ridiculous. The amount of people that could have been saved if the laws were better are unreal!
The blanket of immunity given to the uk police doesn’t help with the issue. There have been so many cases where victims of stalking call the police, the police don’t do anything about it, the victim ends up being murdered by their stalker, and the police aren’t ever held accountable for their negligence because of their blanket of immunity.
Not surprising the police weren’t helpful to this guy either. Thank god he didn’t end up getting murdered
The number of people who blamed him for what was happening to his ex to her mum. The police who down played it. Why do we live in a culture which thinks it's fine to blame the victim of a crime no matter the crome people always blame the victim.
@@w1als8hi Same thing here in the U.S. They really won't do anything until the stalker tries to kill you. It's crazy.
@@cv8499Sadly, also the case in Australia too. We’ve had nearly 30 women mu*dered since the start of 2024 alone. With over half of them perpetrated by a sta*ker, with most if not all being a previous partner of said victims. Again, most if not all of the perpetrators were out on bail or had orders out on them when they perpetrated the at*ack/s.
There was an incident last week, where a Western Australian woman was ki*lled by her ex, who than unalived himself and in his last letter he literally bragged about her never getting justice for what he had done!
It’s a horribly f*cked system worldwide.
Oh, and there’s the case from this year also of a well known tv presenter and his partner being mu*dered by his ‘presumed ex’, who also may have sta*ked him in the weeks/ months before the at*ack and was at the time an active New South Wales police officer and perpetrated the kil*ings with his assigned police fir*arm.
Took 2 whole years to finally get my stalker to court even with eye witnesses 😒
The scene at the end with his father made me cry. "I grew up in the catholic church". That tells it all, unfortunately. Donnie reaches out for a handshake and his dad goes in for a hug.
Anytime Donnie reached for a hug before his father's confession, the dad always shook his hand (scene where he left home to talk to Martha after he went to check on his parents; Donnie hugs his mother, then the father automatically but he goes for a handshake). After the father shared his secret with his son, he could finally hug him as he saw a fellow victim in him, and they both were joined in tragedy.
strong scene..I cried, laughed, and omg moments
Was his Dad Gay, is that what his Dad was saying?
@@sandranynj7118 no, he was SA by priests
This was probably one of my favorite scenes in the entire series. So powerful and that hug had me in tears.
Poor him. It’s a scary experience. I had one but way tamer than this. He was trying to be nice and compassionate but you have to set boundaries
I can guarantee you, he is still stalking you.
He went back and screwed her, messed with her head then wondered why she kept showing back up, Richard is a horrible person who literally brought everything in the show onto himself... He's apathetic naive boy and I just cringed the entire show at his pathetic everything... Jesus I can't stand him as a person, good show but he sucks
I agree. When I was a kid, boundaries applied to countries, not people. But now, people can gain way too much access to your private life. Really bizarre story and shocking film.
@@cyber1ifeconnor “Convicted” stalker - she gave me the biggest ick. Couldn’t watch it all
In my opinion, he is not the victim he is trying to portray he led her on
He is a nasty bully and got what he was asking for
On top of that, he entrapped her she did nothing if he didn't like her he could have easily blocked her emails. He is unwell he is not what he thinks he is just another arrogant creative
Honestly with this video, basically summarized the series step by step and doesn't do any contrasting or comparing of the real event until the end just to say the scariest thing about the series is that the stalker is still out there, missing the point entirely of the series and not even mentioning the sexual abuse shown in the series by an entirely different character
Yeah
How do you know they missed the point, maybe they got it and the point turns them on 👄
This is a very scary situation and very brave of him to show it cause the laws obviously need to change but also how he makes sure that people know she also needs help, serious medical help.
He isn't brave he's such a coward
@@cyber1ifeconnor Is that you, Martha? 👀
well also cuz it's hard for guys to come out about a stalker/abuser cuz of the gender stereotypes. it sucks for the guys who are in this type of situation
It’s sad than men in this situation are not taken seriously
I don't think he could disguise her so much that she wouldn't know considering he's playing himself, and surely she'd recognize him. Anyway, it was only after I finished the series that I understood the main actor is also the real life victim. I cannot believe he could put himself in those scenarios again, that is so brave.
Wait what? The actor is the real life victim? 😭
@@ELCHICOBOMBAOFFICIAL Yes!!! I was shocked to learn that too after finishing the series.
He's disguising her for her protection, not his. He's still protecting her. Even though he shouldn't. Saying she's a victim too, it's not her fault. She still has a hold on him no mater what he says. She's disgusting!
So true, he is so brave.. what a courage to just spit it out like that, I only can say Bravo!
@@Bree5threeseems a bit narcissistic to do the role yourself, clearly it wasn’t as bad as he claimed if he could play himself in the movie. Seems like he’s just money hungry n looking for fame.
I binged the entire show Sunday. It's a great show.
Same here!
Omgsh same here hahaha
Same I watched it all 😂😂
Watched it this past Saturday and part of Sunday and felt so sad the entire day. Such a heavy subject matter I don’t know what I was expecting. I went into it totally blind
Where can I watch it please. 😃
There was no way I could stop watching once I started- binged the entire series nonstop!!!!!! Fantastic show- so sorry he had to experience this
“All of which say ‘sent from my iPhone’ at the bottom, despite her clearly not having an iPhone”
LMAOOO why did this make me laugh so hard 😂
Sometimes iPhone is misspelled.
And one time, it was just 'iPhone'
Ssent from Iphon
Lol. Now you made me want to rewatch. Yes, I did question why iPhone was mispelled.
@@JuliaKdelReyit would have to be misspelled at sone point
When he did that speech on stage and started breaking down. I really felt that. That whole speech was like someone putting in words my feelings about things which have happened to me. I really didn’t expect this series to go the way it did but it was amazing and emotional at the same time
I had a stalker when I was in college. To say it was a nightmare would be an understatement. It wasn’t until my stalker tried to assault me IN OUR CLASS in front of our classmates and the professor that something was done. He was kicked out and trespassed from campus.
What has happened? Did he only creep u out or claim to like you? Because that's a classic one
@@hammadferoz2224 Both - he would repeatedly ask me out, and I would keep reminding him that I was in a relationship. He would also follow me all over campus, and would watch me have my lunches in the break room with my group of friends. He would just stand there on the opposite side of the glass and stare at me. The stress of it all got so bad that my relationship at the time took a turn and my bf broke up with me.
On the day I was assaulted I was talking to two of my friends about the break up and how I just wanted to focus on myself and school since finals were coming up. My stalker (let’s call him Brad) overheard us and tried to ask me out again.
At this point all my friends knew, and I was getting sick of Brad’s shit, told him to go away and that I was DEFINITELY not interested. All of a sudden, without saying anything, Brad grabbed me by my wrist and tried to drag me out of the classroom. For context I’m 5’1, about 130lbs, and fairly athletic. Brad was 6’5” and twice my weight in muscle. I start screaming, and my friends are screaming and punching him. The professor came in along with a bunch of students and staff he was talking to, and got Brad off of me. My parents were called to come get me since they didn’t feel comfortable with me driving myself home. Brad was kicked out and trespassed from all of the campus branches. It was a hot mess.
This series is gut wrenching, but like a trainwreck you drive past, you can't stop watching 😮
I did make it to the end. It got very dark and sad and was unbelievable as a true story at points! The last episode was particularly poignant and I am glad I finished it. My regards to Mr. Gadd. He is an amazing person, actor and writer. Truth is truly stranger than fiction. I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who has not watched it yet, but when he makes a "big speech", I would have stood up and hugged him. It broke my heart! - Fellow stalked person. I literally had to move 5,000 miles away to rid myself of my stalker in the early 2000s!
The story telling and the flawed characters were so compelling and complex.
there were some parts very hard to watch. i can’t imagine what the protagonist had to endure. i hope the so called producer got his time in jail as well. maybe part II?
I feel like people miss the fact that he also has made a lot of mistakes ? In the way he wasn't clear with Martha from the beginning, let her interpret stuff even though he knew she was crazy... People seemed to miss the nuances, the fact that *he sees himself in her and he urges us to try to have empathy and understand*
I feel like this is what the last scene is about *spoilers* when he is crying at the bar, finally understanding how much she interpreted everything, that she projected so much onto him, was so attached because he looked like the only thing that gave her love when she was a child in a abusive household : her reindeer. And as he is crying, the bartender offers him a drink and he looks up to him, and you can see it in his eyes : he gets it ! How a simple act of kindness can mean the world and how, as Martha was very mentally unwell, unstable it started for her a whole obsession.
i mean he was just trying to be a nice guy. it's like hard to do a good gesture for someone without them taking it seriously. most just brush it off as a good thing someone did that day whereas someone could take it as a serious interest.
@@journey1186 I agree! I am not necessarily talking about him offering a drink, but what came after. Yk the times where he joked about making love to her, going out with her, and other things I don't exactly remember in the 3 first episodes. He even says it that Martha was helping him in a way, putting some drama in his life, giving him confidence etc... he loved her laugh, the way she saw him.....
I also think that the series shows that "being a nice guy" isn't always great, and that people should be more careful and understand that not everyone, as you said, is able to differentiate between : "he must have done that cause he is in love w me" than "he is just being nice".
Martha interprets every little thing and hold on to it (looks a lot like erotomania).
@@journey1186there’s obv something wrong w her, he seemed to enjoy that someone liked him so much bc he was a loser in life..
That’s the whole point. He went through so much but knew he played into it as well
He did make a lot of mistakes, but he could’ve told Martha to fck off a million times, right from the start and she was still going to stalk him
This is such a well done series. I rarely binge watch Netflix limited series but I could not stop watching. It starts out as a black comedy but halfway into the series it really takes a dark disturbing turn. The two leads deserve Emmys for their performances.
I just watched the first episode, I am blown away at the Acting!
So far this is awesome
A wonderful limited series I wound up binge watching it! I had no idea what it was about other than the small info blurb. It REALLY took a dark turn in episode 4. There were times where I thought 🤦🏽♀️why isn’t he doing this or that instead but I have to remind myself, I was not in his shoes and all was explained in episode 4. What a brave and compassionate man. To have been through all that, laying it all out there and STILL managing some compassion for his stalker! Incredible. Great piece of work!
this story gave me anxiety
Sameee! But I couldn't stop watching!
I just started on the pilot and haven't finished yet. I did watch the making of the series and it's just as wild as the series.
It’s so frustrating to hear how bad anti stalking laws are in other countries (I’m a US citizen). I do love the idea of a stalker registration
I found the TV producer/writer incident to be truly worse 😞 1. Because it had actually gone physical multiple times 2. The man never acted aggresively or threatening, that's why he never saw him as a danger 3. There were drugs involved 4. It tampered with the thing he wanted the most ouf of life for his career. 5. I feel like it had a much deeper impact in life than the stalking. He could've gotten paranoid from the stalking but developing a romantic relationship and the way to sexually relate to other people seemed to have a MUCH bigger impact.
Don't know why not much was mentioned about that particular ordeal. The grooming and rape was not discussed.😢
Stalking is legit scary. It should be taken more seriously worldwide!!! The show looks interesting but I highly doubt my PTSD would let me look at it. Kudos to Mr. Gadd for surviving through it and being able to persevere beyond the stalking.
Seems like they stalked each other. He seemed to search out all her social media himself. I think he liked the attention, cause it’s clear his comedy career is a failure.
@@kellyperry559 So.. you haven't watched it?
Best show I’ve seen in a long time!! So sad it’s true poor guy!
Men bringing charges of stalking against women is rare even though it does happen and people take women more seriously.It's not that they don't believe in it's just that they don't notice it happening to men nearly as often as it does to women I believe it. They need to take a lot more seriously before he gets killed. Bless his heart for not being afraid to come forward.
True. And even when it is a man stalking a woman, they don't really do anything about it. Add to that police not taking it seriously when a man is the one being stalked, and you have a recipe for disaster.
if she wasnt fat then most likely he would just give up and start dating her
Stalkers in general are just not taken seriously enough.
You can use every legal means there is in the book and it won’t be enough.
This one lady she worked at hooters one of her customers got obsessed with her.
She first changed her name and moved to another state. Only took him 3 months to find her.
So then she filed for a restraining order it was then denied.
He shot her and then himself two days later.
A man who is obviously deranged enough to harass a hooters girl relentlessly for weeks and then spend 3 months tracking her down and when it is a known fact he posessss guns at some point it should’ve been obvious the man was unhinged.
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580wtf, did u watch the show at all she harassed him it had nothing to do with her being fat if she was normal, she won't have assaulted his girlfriend
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580 Swing and a miss, bud.
The only thing that I was disappointed with after watching this was the way his relationship with Teri ended. I kept hoping he would go see her and ask for a second chance.
He kind of got his second chance when she came to the comedy show though, didn't he? I did want to see her one last time as well though.
I’ve read A very private school by Charles Spencer, he was abused by a women when he was 11 years old, it left him with problems for many years, the book is horrific in my eyes but a fascinating read on the class system in the 1970s. I’d think it would make a good Netflix series
It was so sad and he did such a good job casting Martha in a sympathetic light as much as showing how deranged she was. You can see how it would be hard to feel sorry for a person like that. We all have toxic relationships that pull us back in time and again.
he lead her on perfectly knowing what she's capable of and he got what he wanted from her but when he's got a girlfriend and she became out of control (as you expected ), he sued her for stalking...talk about playing the victim. and he also knowingly kept went back to that man to get assaulted. He is the one keep things happening to him he's asking for it. blaming everything on others and never learn, he will invite more trouble.
His stalker was probably giving him the attention his partner was not but he was not sexually attracted to his stalker. Made his head all wonky, poor guy was torn in two. 😩
@@someoneout-there2165 he knows he doesn't have any feelings for her but used her anyway for his own benefit.
poor grown up guy has no brain to make his own decision huh? he's a selfish person and so are you
It also shows that MEN could also be a target of STALKING not just girls.... 🙌
Love your summary, brief & encompassing.
I had a stalker lite…he would call and text incessantly, leave me notes and gifts on my car, drive by my home. I had a small child and lived in a ground floor apartment. I was so scared. I moved out of state.
“…And that’s why I messed it up with her. Because I hated myself so much more than I love her. And I loved her so very much”
-Baby Reindeer
This hit me in the feels so hard
@@Combfish man who thought this show would just be so real.
I was just searching on Netflix this weekend, Decided to watch and I was blown away! The ending was perfect! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Brave man for putting it all out there …… He is a true victim …. Scary as he$$ …..
What’s the point of this video? It just summarizes the series. Doesn’t critique it. Or doesn’t talk about any facts that were not covered in the series. Doesn’t add any new value. I think the title is misleading
A 12 minute commercial for the show? Or a “movie recap” video that is often more desirable than watching the movie, or in this case an entire series. That’s “the point” for me. I clicked the like button l cuz I don’t have nor want a Netflix subscription anymore but it’s still interesting to see what’s on there in case I change my mind. Was that helpful?
Id been hearing all the hype but knew nothing about it. Before making the decision whether to go down the rabbit hole, I looked for a short video that would give me an overview. That's why I clicked. Think they did a great job.
This show is so good at different levels, not for every one,,strange and original, Based on a True Story. We watched the entire show in two days.
Brilliant acting and not the least from the actor playing Martha.
Episode 4 of Baby Reindeer takes a dark and gripping turn, delving deep into themes of abuse that resonate with many viewers, including myself. As a male who has experienced abuse at the hands of a woman, I found this episode particularly poignant, and it struck a nerve in a way that was both painful and cathartic.
He’s a fantastic actor
🤣🤣🤣 no he’s not
Wow--you need to scream SPOLIER ALERT for this video! The Baby Reindeer series is fantastic. However, you revealed almost all of the story. (I just finished watching it). Also, I wanted to know what were the actually events Richard Gadd went through as you implied with the title.
It was such a hard watch that about 10 minutes into having been introduced to Martha, alarm bells were ringing loud in my head saying Nope!
Hopefully this story is a wake up call. Stalkers are scary and dangerous. Exposing them is a way to deter their harmful behaviors I believe.
This show should get all the awards
This is literally night mare. I hope there will be adequate laws regarding this. Too many people are sufferong because of stalking incidents
Happy monday night, Ashley. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from colombia to you as well.
When I was 19 the place I worked at told me they'd gotten a restraining order on a homeless guy for making threats of sexual assault about the female employees and me most specifically. That if I ever saw him even in my personal life i should call the police. Thankfully he never followed me outside of work but it was still scary to know someone was speaking about me that way.
I feel that everyone saying he is at fault, that he led her on, etc., I can see your POV(he could've changed his number, his email). However, Martha sexually assaulted him, attacked his ex, physically assaulted the person he was dating, threatened his family, and broke a glass over his head.
When you find out why Martha calls Donny baby deer, at the end is so damn sad, me being and empathic person i couldn't stop feeling sad for her and let go of a little tear. 😢
The most disturbing real life story I have ever seen or heard. Only the alledged stalker and victim know who's telling the truth. The actress that plays the stalker is absolutely fantastic. An oscar actress waiting in the wings .
I watched the series yesterday…one episode was really bad, but the rest was pretty good.
I know exactly which episode you’re talking about. That was rough to watch
Which episode?
After all the crazy loops and emotions of the series The Martha scene in court as the door shuts was prob the saddest scene with also him finding out why martha called him baby reindeer
I started watching this show the other night and as a woman, it angers me that it took until the 2020’s to take male victims of stalking, sexual harassment and assault seriously and not in a joking manner. Like every time when the topic is on stalking it’s almost always seems like the male is the stalker and the woman is the victim, or it’s a woman stalking another woman, but when the man is the victim they aren’t taken seriously. Hopefully #BabyReindeer will bring an end to that
“Sent from my iPhone.” 🤣🤣🤣
When I found out it was the actual guy playing himself, I had so much respect for him. Including those terrible R scenes. Having to go through that again even though it was fake on there. I wouldn't be able to do it.
Oh, please. He was not paying attention, so he got in trouble.
And that actress agreed to play this role based on her looks, not on how threatening she could get. Well, I hope she got paid really well and she can sort the rest of her life now.
Why didn’t he turn in the guy that SA’d him? He listened to hours of phone calls to catch his stalker. Interesting where the focus lands
If a man had said that about a woman refusing to report it I imagine you'd have a few words for him like. That it's hard for women to come to terms with it then have the courage to go up against their abuser especially if their are high powered. Add in the shame and the ridicule and the victim blaming which goes on when women come forward. Why would any of that be any different for a man?
With men there is the added aspect of sociaties attitude that SA only affecting women. Men don't get SA they cause it, only weak or gay men get sa. As you saw in the show it caused him to question his sexuality due to the fact he kept going back until he was ultimatly R'd.
Wow this show went right over your head.
@@keithk2879exactly, he basically explained this in the show…
That is awful. I cannot imagine how scared he must have been.
This is happening to me right now i was just nice to her a few times and we had a nice conversation and that was it now she stands in her backyard lookin at my back window and door waiting for me to come out everyday i just try to avoid her
How long you've been experiencing this? If you feel uncomfortable maybe it's not that bad to talk to her how it makes you feel.
I did something like this, but it was way tamer. I am now on medication for adhd, and it is working. I feel sorry for what this guy went through 😢😭
I’m glad his story is out there. There are way too many lonely, mentally ill people out there that misconstrue a gesture of kindness. As a woman I’ve had to deal with what most would probably assume to be decent manners and being humane taken to mean something else in the minds of others. I’ve had men whom have impersonated family to find out where I work and even which hospital I was in one time. Another incident had one of my stalkers sleeping on the pavement, outside my apartment door day after day while I was at work. I was nearly kicked out and told I would have to pay a fine for breaking my lease because of that moron.
Don’t even get me started on the police. I made so many reports, but it was all in vain. Nothing was ever done. I have to take Xanax almost every day due to my past experience with stalking. I have severe social anxiety. These people ruin lives!
That's really creepy, and I'm glad no one ended up dead.
I heard about this show when it came out but I didn't know it had to do with stalking and the actor/comedian went through the same thing. Stalking needs to be taken seriously from the beginning before it gets worse.
Some authorities don't take stalking seriously and it leads to tragic consequences. And there does need to be new laws regarding stalking, but what I liked about the series was that it addressed that she needs help. Great series.
I have a stalker , she's my neighbour, I had to leave my own home, go back to my parents, she has found where I am, she abuses me daily on social media, she's threatens my family, my friends, follows me to work and damages my home, smashing windows , harassing me daily, insulting me, threatening violence, spreads rhoumers, she's an awful person, but I certainly wouldn't blame it on mental health, yes I agree these people need help, but I have mental health, I know right from wrong! Police need to be stricter with prosecuting these people, but also possibly look at medicating them with the correct drugs
Sorry to hear that you going through this...😢😢😢
I hope your okay
Recently a woman claiming as the real martha went to the media to be left alone by Gadd’s fans😂
It was a great show. Great acting too. Few scenes were difficult to watch especially the man SA’ing him while he was passed out.
So your telling me when you are being stalked you have to do the work that the police must do just to file charges wow.
Stomach churning but definitely worth the watch.
Soooo I saw the show… while watching I could honestly see where perspective can make a big difference. Especially when it comes to who’s telling the story. Clearly Martha is mentally ill. He’s very much basking and even manipulating her psychotic behavior to his benefit. Especially considering his love of fame that he really wanted and showed even in his own telling of the story.
Hey "mojo" .......this is one of many stories "told"
In 2024, per social media.....its right behind "all" doors
If he was so scared of her why didn’t he just block her on social media? The fact that she was able to send 40,000 emails tells me he wasn’t too scared or worried since he never BLOCKED her.🤦🏽♀️
Whats scary is the fact that when a man is put in this position and has these type of things happen to him that normally are viewed to only happen to woman, its like" really? You couldnt handle a woman? I dont believe you. Women have had it worse. " which yeah ,maybe women have had it worse because the female body is seen as more sexual and attractive than a male. Imo. But i can tell u 1st hand, as well as other males whove left comments, that this is way more common than anyone thinks. Its just viewed differently. My situation was not the same as this show, but it was a woman who was on a strong anti depresant and she drank profusely every night, so every night shed change into a diff person being drunk and say the most horrible things about me, and physically abuse me. Me being raised not to lay a hand on a woman( unless shes going to kill me ) just took it. And the next morning its" i dont remember that at all. I would never do those things. Im so sorry. Itll never happened again". Blah blah blah.
And when she decided to have an orgy with multiple men and women at a sex party ( no im not kidding or exaggerating 1 bit) i left. She admitted it because i knew by calling that night asking where she was and one of the participants grabbed the phone,DRUNK, and said" stop calling , shes fine, shes in good hands. Well take good car of her. Better than you can, BRO. you dont give her what she needs, and we will". So i waoted til she came home at 5am,, and i grilled her u til she came clean. Probably, she wanted out of the relationship because i always " dampered her fun" by not letting her drive hammered, reminding her of her 2 kids at home, etc. I know im horrible. But that was 2008, and i got over it, but theres plenty of men who have had things happen and just because they were raised to treat women with respect and not lay a hand on them, that is used to somes advantage. Now there are PLENTY of amazong women who would never do that. But please, dont think of it as a joke if you hear that a male is in the role that is usually reserved for a woman. Cause while my story is 1000% true, it isnt as bad as other guys have had it. And im not in any way trying to downgrade what women have gone through because like ive said, i know because of the beauty and sexuality a woman can represent, i know theyve had it worse than men ,in most cases. Dont twist my words or think im trying to say ive some victim. I see myself as someone who bettered their life and let the experience guide how i am now and in the future.
Her poor kids also.
I watched it and i liked it. 👍👍👍
🤯🤯🤯Fear and intimidation are the tools stalkers use to control their victims and society. Stalkers need to be exposed for the dangers they pose.😮😮😮😮
This show had me ugly crying.
This is not the REAL story. You are just describing the series!
4:43 you mean a lawyer?
Both clearly had/have mental health issues. Crazy sad tho 😢
You're just repeating what happened on the show.
Whis back here after she outed herself on Piers 😅😅
what's the background music at 4:23 ???
The fact that people feel sympathy for Martha’s crazy azz makes no sense she needs to go to prison for life she is dangerous and a villain not a victim
People are missing the point , stalking is unacceptable but it’s the sexual harassment that we should address here
So this is a true story so that's got me asking did he actually follow her home to see where she lived?
Watching today omg
Gaslight by Stalker.
Very disturbing show, I watched it all in one sitting. I looked it up to see if it was actually true, as you can see by comment. I'm glad he's safe and okay. But I'd be careful if I were him. Seems the actual woman is coming forward and saying she was the one being stalked. This suits her behavior in the film as she was trying to blame him as well. It just opens your eyes to how manipulative people can be. She is a compulsive liar and narcissist. After one bad situation it's very easy for me to pick them out now. Be safe Mr. Gad! If you haven't already, I'd make sure you have a bodyguard!
"at this point he's gone to the police as he did in real life but they are completely inept" as they are in real life
2:00 Martha reminds me of a large Elizabeth Mozs
Im not shocked by the number of people blaming the victim for what happened to them as it seems the norm to blame the victim for what happened, however i was shocked at the fact women blamed him for what happened. "Why didn't he report it?" We have seen time and time again what happens to women who report their abuse they get their names dragged through the mud they get told "Well she must have lead him on." or "Did you see what she was wearing." We even had the Me Too movement but i guess only women get to have that as women are the only gender who get SA, R or attacked men don't.
Except they do, however due to how sociaty treats male victims of these crimes they get the same victim blaming that women suffer plus "Well maybe he was gay and liked it." "If he'd only faught back harder." "Why did he keep going round there he must have been asking for it."
I find it odd that when the victim is male these is so much less compassion then if they were a woman, as I said before sociaty sees these types of crime to only affect one gender when infact men suffer too but are far less likely to report it due to the amount of abuse they incure from the general public.
Image in this had been a female comic who showed what she went through and the purpitrator was male would we have gotten comments like "Why didn't he turn in the guy that Sa'd him? He listened to hours of phone calls to catch his stalker. Interesting where the focus lands" I'll point put that that comment was left by a woman. Would she have said the same if had happened to a woman or woulds she have been really supportive of her? I expect so but because it happened to a man its good to victim blame. As i said before I guess the Me Too movement was only meant for women who suffered abuse not men or would she also criticised the women for burying that trauma and concentrating on the more recent trauma?
Cose no matter what way you cut it he suffered a hell of a lot of trauma and the SA he'd buried for years and it had affected him for years.
But sure lets carry on blaming the victim for being the victim except if said victim is a woman then we rally round and support her whilst stomping on the male victim of the same crimes.
what you omit to consider is the intense situation in this specific story. ι i do not believe people are blaming the victim , they are questioning how it is possible not to take some measures to protect yourself when you see it coming, when it is clear that the person stalking you is beyond "normal' .Same for women victims. When the signs are so obvious for such a long time and you ignore them you are a part of your problem. Male or female it is just the same. And that doesn' t mean that the stalker or abuser is not guilty . If you know that someone is a convicted rapist and you go out with him expecting him to respect you because that is what he is supposed to do, and then he rapes you, he obviously is 100% guilty but you are also 100% stupid.
Omg it makes you realise that this sort of thing not just happens to women
Who invites their stalker into their home? This guy seems as unhinged as she is.
Here is a little complimentary Twitch streamer Anita's case's mention. She was stalked by a dangerous man who threatened to kill her pets, to the point where the fuck was CHASING her and people had to help her escape, and the British police literally did NOTHING.
Did anyone witness her behaviour? If this stalking went on for a while surely her out burst e.g. the cafe outburst.
“resolved”
He gives her free drinks, goes along with her innuendoes, goes on a date with her, follows her home, accepted her friend request on fb knowing she’s a stalker then kept hanging out with her and talking to her. Takes 6 months to report her and omits her criminal past. He also repeatedly goes back to the dude offering drugs and repeatedly lets him molest him. He’s the catalyst for all of the chaos he endures so I find it difficult to have sympathy for him.
He bought her drinks out of kindness cause he felt bad. Also he told her it was not a date when they were at a restaurant. He set boundary he also probably accepted that request because he wanted to gather information on her odd behavior also he had to collect lots of evidence on her because its really hard to prove your being stalked. Quit victim blaming.
Perfect victim's don't exist.
So would you blame a woman for being the victim too?
@@IHEARTCOQUETTECLOTHES.777 "He bought her drinks out of kindness cause he felt bad" shit that literally never happens irl
If you watched the show it literally answers all of that
was she scottish also? the main male character was from scotland but his accent wasn’t strong