@@MattHolborn Oh man I did that exact thing at a session a couple of weeks ago. I stopped and pulled a face before continuing too so if anyone hadn't noticed they did then.
@MattHolborn i can think of bunch, like famous recording of j'attendrai or something from stuff smith where the "feel" is there, rome sessions are also good :) even though there is no visuals
Yeah that makes sense for sure. I would still say that his tone isn’t it’s usual self here regardless of the recording quality. There are moments his tone shines through the compression which tells me that at other points he just light not be comfortable in the ensemble.
Don't know the details of the original broadcast but many TV recordings made of classical musicians performing on "mainstream" entertainment programs, be they chat shows, award ceremonies or, "live" music festivals employ extremely crude forms of dynamic compression that are calibrated to attenuate the loud signals and amplify the quiet ones to the extent that the viewer/listener perceived the audio to be exactly the same volume throughout - this process can have a severe impact on the instrument's timbre and can for example, completely wreck the rich resonance of an acoustic violin or make Concert Steinway's full bodied tone sound like the tinny piano sample on a Casio synthesiser! The issue doesn't seem especially manifest in this video, though it might still go some way to explaining why this particular performance doesn't embody quite the virtuosity or finesse that one might expect.
Good insights about the compression. As I mentioned one of the other comment threads, I do feel there are good and bad moments for his tone throughout this performance. Not much consistency and I reckon it’s because he wasn’t comfortable playing with the ensemble and was searching for the best way to do so.
Most of the arrangements of the Menuhin/Grappelli albums were written by Max Harris. This is not one of his best efforts. Jalousie was originally a light classical instrumental, like Monti's Czardas. Like the Czardas, it starts with a free gypsy style intro (lassú), but instead of going into a fast section (friss), goes into a tango. It sounds like they are playing over the changes of the tango. Menuhin had physical issues relatively early in his career. He's not helping things here by playing with the sort of big sound you need to play a concerto with orchestra.
17:40 You're talking about that time we played "Lady Be Good" in London together? Not cool bro 😢
Is that when we both played a B natural on the C7 at the exact same time and locked eyes?
@@MattHolborn C7? I thought the tune was in Gmajor pentatonic no?
@@MattHolborn Oh man I did that exact thing at a session a couple of weeks ago. I stopped and pulled a face before continuing too so if anyone hadn't noticed they did then.
For us violinists, every tune is in Gmajor pentatonic
Love these reactions!thx
Thank you! Let me know if you have any ideas for who I can react to next?
@MattHolborn i can think of bunch, like famous recording of j'attendrai or something from stuff smith where the "feel" is there, rome sessions are also good :) even though there is no visuals
I think Menuhin's sound in the live performance has more to do with the recording methods.
Yeah that makes sense for sure. I would still say that his tone isn’t it’s usual self here regardless of the recording quality. There are moments his tone shines through the compression which tells me that at other points he just light not be comfortable in the ensemble.
Don't know the details of the original broadcast but many TV recordings made of classical musicians performing on "mainstream" entertainment programs, be they chat shows, award ceremonies or, "live" music festivals employ extremely crude forms of dynamic compression that are calibrated to attenuate the loud signals and amplify the quiet ones to the extent that the viewer/listener perceived the audio to be exactly the same volume throughout - this process can have a severe impact on the instrument's timbre and can for example, completely wreck the rich resonance of an acoustic violin or make Concert Steinway's full bodied tone sound like the tinny piano sample on a Casio synthesiser! The issue doesn't seem especially manifest in this video, though it might still go some way to explaining why this particular performance doesn't embody quite the virtuosity or finesse that one might expect.
Good insights about the compression. As I mentioned one of the other comment threads, I do feel there are good and bad moments for his tone throughout this performance. Not much consistency and I reckon it’s because he wasn’t comfortable playing with the ensemble and was searching for the best way to do so.
Most of the arrangements of the Menuhin/Grappelli albums were written by Max Harris. This is not one of his best efforts. Jalousie was originally a light classical instrumental, like Monti's Czardas. Like the Czardas, it starts with a free gypsy style intro (lassú), but instead of going into a fast section (friss), goes into a tango. It sounds like they are playing over the changes of the tango. Menuhin had physical issues relatively early in his career. He's not helping things here by playing with the sort of big sound you need to play a concerto with orchestra.
Great insights! Thanks!
Jealousy is a Frankie Laine song, like you say, it wasn't jazz 😉
Yeah I think I just worked out that they play over the changes of Tea For Two in solo section however.