Electric Summer Tires - Can You Really Have It All?
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2023
- Why Everyone Should Run Summer Tires - Even Electric Cars!
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Summer tires are the performance option for enthusiasts who want the most out of their cars. These tires offer more grip, better steering feel, and better handling - not to mention better stopping distance rain or shine. But does all that grip come at a compromise? Electric vehicles need tires with low rolling resistance to maximize range, and often, rolling resistance is at odds with grip. In this video we’ll deep dive into Hankook’s iON evo tire, a summer tire offered for both electric cars and electric SUVs, to maximize warm weather performance without a big loss in rolling resistance or noise levels.
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KEEP UP THE SEXY TIRE CONTENT 😍😍 Edit, I've actually tested this tyre vs the IC version, it was a fun experiment
And what were the results?
A link to the results would be great!
That's right Jason, I never use anything but high performance summer tires.
Because our hot boy summer is a high performance summer
EV stock tires are trash. Noisy, rough and wears out faster. Rolling resistance takes away from regenerative braking so I've seen no significant difference in range. EV tires are more expensive for less performance and safety.
Just please don't drive in the snow! ;)
I've pulled many a "4wd" out of snow banks because they came stock with summer tires (Bimmers, Audi's, STi's, etc.) and the owner's didn't realize they turn into hockey pucks on cold and snowy roads.
@@brentlanyon4654 Way too many people think "4wd" means they're invincible in snow and ice and they don't have to worry about their tires or their driving habits. F around and find out.
@@JakkiPi"Rolling resistance take away from regenerative braking"
How about no?
Tires are so important, I wish everyone knew how important quality tires are, not just for weekends in the canyons but for everyday driving to help keep you safe and comfortable (and those around you safe)
Especially snow/winter tires for the winter.
"Sorry I crashed into you I lost control of my car because I was running nearly bald summer tires in a snowstorm" 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Sincere question: how many accidents are the result of poor choice of tire or poorly worn tires? My guess is a pretty low percentage. I'm not saying selecting the right tire isn't important, just saying it's probably not important enough to buy the highest quality, most expensive tires on the market. Where's the crossover?
@@jeffpicken5057 that is a really good question, I'm sure some accidents would be prevented by people having slightly better condition tires, but other accidents would need even better condition tires and so on. I'm not sure where the data for this kind of thing would be though
@@jeffpicken5057 I imagine the answer would be entirely based on what environment you were to drive in. If it's snowy conditions I imagine poor choice of tire is very important and has stopped plenty of accidents. I know I have been saved by my winter tires a good few times to say the least.
@@arog7493 for sure! But the question is, ‘of all the accidents that occur, how many are BECAUSE of bad tires?’
What i'd love to see is a difference of these EV Summer tires versus a "regular" summer, both on an ICE car. Since the tires are made for heavier GVWR, are they more or less likely to grip on a lighter ICE vehicle, and how would that impact fuel efficiency?
Tyrereviews made a video about that already
@@CerberusTenshilink
@@KhanJoltrane I did it on an EV not a IC vehicle
@@CerberusTenshi Only thing is, those videos contain almost no scientific evidence. At least, most of the ones I've watched.
Why? They're not made for ICE vehicles. Why wouldn't you buy tires for your vehicle, rather than buying a really good tire for an EV?
Good to see the Hankook company getting some recognition here. Have been very happy in recent years with their products. Good tyres at a good price. Companies like Hankook have to work harder than the older recognised brands to compete, and us consumers win.
Very clear and informative. Well done, and thank you!
Excellent video and explanation. As always well done job 👌👍
It would be handy to compare against the benchmark Michelin Pilot Sport 4s
I would love to see that too. I have 4s on my Tesla. They are great. Curious about these tires too
Also on the 4S NO Spec on my Tesla since the TO specs are so hard to find… then I switch over to the Alpin PA4 in the winter. It’s gonna be real hard convincing me to move away from that combo - works so well even on an EV
I always enjoy viewing your videos about tires, and this is one of my favorites! Keep up the great work! 🍩🍩
Brilliant video! That was so interesting and informative. Thank you :)
Very informative. I am down to consider these when I need a new set of not-winters. It's pushing it in my climate, as we often see snow in may-september so usually the 'all season' is best for summer.
great video. I'd love to see you compare the different noise levels of a bunch of tyres. i'd be interested to find out which are the quietest ones.
Heysohn! Good to see you my good sir. Glad to see your tires still have plenty of tread.
Great Explanation. I may now open my own tire manufacturing plant..
Excellent presentation 👏 👌
Great video, you deserve all your success many tmes over.
Gorgeous B roll scenery. I get to look at that mountain everyday.
I’ve been wanting these tires for my Taycan, but they dont yet have the right sizes for it. Hopefully they will by the time my next set are needed. Thanks for the great and informative video!
Love to see Jason enjoying everything he does, from explaining engineering, to driving. Hopeful 😊
Same. The joys of living in SoCal.
Extremely interesting content. Thank You.
This is the best comercial I've ever watched. Informative and fun to watch.
I live in Iceland and I spend the money to change over to summer tires for the 4-5 months a year I can safely use them. The car drives so much better, totally worth it.
I don’t understand the emphasis on low rolling resistance for EV tires, wouldn’t you want low rolling resistance for regular cars too? Seems you should get similar benefits
Q: wouldn’t you want low rolling resistance for regular cars too? A: yes, they've existed for years as part of helping OEM's meet fuel economy and meeting ever stricter emissions standards. understandably if you have little or no association with the Automotive Sector...? you will likely have little to no knowledge of this and might misinterpret this as happening for the FIRST TIME (which it isn't). naturally in terms of the newness of EV's, there's a lot more FOCUS and HYPE surrounding efficiency, with the "larger endgame" being to sell you something and thus SEPARATE you from your money (which it does).
I just bought a Model 3 and this is news I can use. Thank you for this video! Hankook is likely going to get a sale as a result. ;)
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan... Tires are cool! You singlehandedly have made me be more careful about the tires on my car, not because of performance, but for safety.
Happy to hear it! I gave a presentation for a tire company a while back to an audience of parents, and we went around the room talking about the tires we had on our cars. One person mentioned they had four *different* tires on their car! Ahhhh! Different levels of grip at each corner certainly is not ideal. You won't regret paying for a good tire the first time you need it.
@@EngineeringExplained Yeah! My tires are still pretty new from the previous owner, and I haven't had to change them yet, but when time comes I'll be sure to do some research and buy good ones, even if I have to pay extra. Stopping distance and wet grip only need to fail you once to ruin your life, so better safe than sorry.
@@soloyoujo Worst thing is stopping distance and wet grip only need to fail once from somebody else's poor choices to ruin someone else's life. :(
@@mjc0961 Yep. That's true too.
Thanks! I learned a lot and will be ordering a set of Hankook e-ion tyres for my Leaf here in the Caribbean 👍🏻
One of the great luxuries I could wish for is the room to store and rotate a set of summer/winter tires and wheels. Until then as nice as these tires are the best single tire is a good quality all terrain.
Great upload....there is so much tech that goes into a good tire these days it's amazing. Wondering if you could do a similar review of the Toyo Celsius All Weather tire - which claims year-round usability but better winter performance than All Season tires, plus a 60,000 mile wear rating. How would they achieve this on a mountain snowflake rated tire, especially in light of your comments on compound softness here?
An Excellent, in depth but easy to understand explanation ! Top notch 👍😎
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I just bought a set of these in 305 30 /25. It is the best choice I could make for my Taycan. I am very happy with them. The Hankook's are A LOT quieter!
I did the same! I was also considering de Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, but the Hankook's are a fear bit cheaper. Also, the most noice you experience driving on the highway was from the tires. The Hankook's are A LOT quieter! (still have to test sporty driving capabilities though)
Love the video, my only counter arguement to that would be the price. Is 30 ‘potential’ miles range a greater saving that I’m assuming this premium price per tyre would be? I would assume not. However, great video, very educational! 👌🏼
Yayyyy, new clip from EE!!
Great video. I would like to see a video about the new Prius - engine effeciency, drag and rolling resistance and a video with a comparison of Tesla Model Y and Toyota Rav4 plug in hybrid regarding effeciency.
Used Hankook S1 Evo 1, 2 n 3, V12 evo n Evo2, RS2, RSS Z211 and Dynapro
I can Attest Hankook provides Value for $$ with Good Grip esp in Wet
"My never worked a day in my life hands". GOLD
Glad someone heard it haha 😉
I will say that if I had the money would love to be able to run summer tires and winter tires but since tires are so expensive I cannot. With that being said I have the All-season Hankook Ion Evo tires on my EV and so far they are amazing. Couldn’t ask for a more comfortable and quiet ride.
Hi Jason, love your videos. Just an idea for a video..... the advantages and/or disadvantages of using EV tires on a combustion vehicle. The EV tires sound so great you would want to use them on a conventional performance car as well. I think stiff walls might be one of the biggest things involved. Im not sure if you have covered this in another video though, I do watch most of your vids when I can. Thanks
EVs are heavier because of the batteries. You want a tire that's designed for the weight of your car. I think going too stiff with an EV tire on an ICE car would degrade the ride quality and potentially reduce grip because the contact wont be as full due to the lesser weight than they were designed for.
the noise cancelling foam also useless on ICE vehicle.
I think he made a video like this a while ago. I'm not sure, but you can check.
@@berto1014 i guess the question is, whats the weight of the questionable ice car, and how the ev tires designed. i mean, ev-s are around 1700-2300kg (so their tires should be designed for that weight), but there are LOT of AWD ice cars from 1600kg to 2000kg.....
MAY BE there is some loss traction if you put thet EV tyre to a 1200-1300 kg ice veichle....because the wall will be to stiff.
Southern Ohio. I run summer tires in the summer. I’m originally from Canada and used to winter tires. I replaced my winters with Cross Climate 2 all weather which I believe is way better for the sometime rain, sometimes snow here in the winter.
Have you ever done a video on how GM does the cylinder shutdown? My last two Corvettes could run on 4 cylinders when just cruising, to greatly increase fuel milage. I always wondered if they somehow were able to keep the exhaust valves open in the deactivated cylinder to avoid unwanted compression. Also wondered if they shift which 4 cylinders they chose to avoid uneven wear. What ever they do,it works flawlessly and increases mpg to 34-35 on long trips. Pretty good for 495hp high performance car.
30 more miles!! That is going to give my gen 1 Leaf nearly 50% more range..... sold. 😊
Don’t ask for your money back when it gives you 3 miles of range
Haha, we were assuming 200 miles driven (see math at 11:00). (I can read sarcasm but many here cannot 😉).
Imagine on ebikes 😂
Another awesome vid Jason 👏 We are told that tire rotation is very important. But is it? Are we better off rotating tires and replacing them 4 at a time ... or just run them as is, and replace the driven 2 when worn out? Have you ever done the numbers on this Jason?
I absolutely love summer tyres. For the lower noise and increased braking performance.
Jason please look into the much coveted Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tire labeled "Extra Load" and let us know what you find. apparently it's a fitment for the latest generation Model S Plaid with the Carbon Brakes and Track Pack. Misha just made reference to it in a recent Nurburgring test video he uploaded a few weeks back. much like previous collabs done with BMW (M3), Porsche (911/Taycan) and other brands, it seems to be an OEM spec designed specifically for the Triple Motor Tesla.
When I bought new summer tires, I made sure that the wet grip has an A rating.
I only experienced a loss of grip once (while overtaking on the highway during rain), but having my car turn sideways (like, 90° sideways) to the road while traveling at 130 km/h was more than enough for a lifetime.
(No one got harmed, including no cars harmed, but that was a hell of a scare.)
For the sake of clarity:
Passenger tires -> Summer tires -> Extreme Performance tires -> DOT Competition tires -> Race tires.
I can't really use summers where I live since the nightly lows in my climate never rise above 36°F (~2°C). However, it is nice to have all-seasons in surprise autumn snowstorms, so even if I could, I wouldn't run summers.
If I ever move to Florida, California, or Arizona, that will change.
Engineering, physics, and chemistry class all at once. Great video!
I would love for you to do a video on when will we reach the limits of performance of an SUV vs a coupe or sedan. Does ground clearance impose a limit, all things being equal (gas SUV vs gas coupe or EV SUV vs EV coupe). Those larger tires and higher ground clearance must have a performance limitation in acceleration or turning/handling.
Hi, for this tire, do you know what is the lowest working temperature? For the Michelin 4s is like in the 40's. Thanks for the info.
Jason, how was Lemans? Will we see something from there soon?
Amazing timing! My Model 3 is about ready for new tires and I want something more enthusiast oriented. These look like just the ticket. Great work as always!
I wish I could be you in your thumbnail. That’s one sweet seat!
best of both world would be a tire that becomes more grippy when you load it with cornering, accelerating or braking, but wouldn't deform much and be efficient under light load when crusing at constant speed. maybe a tire with only the center of tire touching the ground and being much harder, efficient and wear resistant but when you accelerate, decelerate, corner, the mass transfer on rear, front or side tires would make the sticky part of the tire touch and provide more grip
Great video. Regarding the centripetal acceleration of the tire, since the velocity of the tire at the contact patch is zero, the basic v^2/r formula doesn't quite hold, does it? It seems like there would be some third order stuff going on there.
v^2/r can be used when v is measured relative to the center of the rotation, which moves together with the car's body, and as you alluded to, the outside of the tyre moves relative to the car body (thus also the center of rotation) at the same speed as the car is driving.
Can you do a video explaining/exploring Nano-electro fluid (NEF) "batteries" that Influit Energy is testing?
Is it better than Michelin Pilot Sport 4s? I got a M3P might try Hankook next summer.
Hi Jason. I had an interesting discussion with some friends around the question "Why is quick acceleration less energy efficient than slow acceleration?"...on both electric and ICE vehicles. For example, if you are supposed to travel 1 mile, why is it more efficient to accelerate to 60mph in 10 seconds and than cruise for the rest of the mile versus accelerating to 60mph in 5 seconds and than cruise for the rest of the mile? You are basically moving the same mass over the same distance.
I had this question in my mind for some time now and I could not find a pleasing answer researching on the Internet. Of course, the simple answer is: "more energy/fuel is transformed into heat, as more pressure is applied to the mechanical parts", but why? and how? and to what point it differs from ICE to electric vehicles?
I would love to see a video where you try to explain the principles of physics that could answer this questions.
I'm a big fan of this channel BTW. Thank you for the content you are creating here.
ThEn
Please look into the Sailun eRange tire
Bro I came to your channel as soon as I watched the 2300hp gemera reveal. I'm waiting
Are these even for sale in north America? I only see the all season ion evos on sites here.
Can you do a comparison between these ION EVO tires on your 18 inch Martian wheels vs the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on your 18 inch T Sportline wheels? How does the tire performance compare? Are the EVO's 0-60 times as good? Handling as good? Any info or experience you can share about that?
Would you rather get Michelin that came with M3 or this? Thanks!
Living in MN, I can't use these without changing them out every season, which is kind of a pain. Unless I buy a second set of rims I can swap them myself. I would love to be able to use a high wear rating summer tire for 365 day use. One of several downsides to living in a cold climate.
I just changed my worn OEM MXM4's to Pirelli P Zero's. They are a little mushier and have a bit of a more hollow sound, but overall I like them for all seasons. Will have to see how they do in the winter for final judgement. They're also ~$50 cheaper per tire and have a slightly higher wear rating. Efficiency seems about the same as the MXM4's.
Buy a set of steel wheels and chuck winter tires on them. You can swap them out yourself pretty quickly, and you keep the salt and crud off of your nicer alloy wheels. Sure the steel wheels aren't pretty but your nice wheels will stay nice.
Depending on your vehicle, you may be able to find a user's forum where people sell there used rims for cheap, or do a "group buy" on lots of sets which gets you a discount. That's what I did with my WRX - bought a set of spare stock rims for $200 off some dude and put the summer tires on that, and Nokian winter tires on the other set. That car had a viscous center differential making it critical that you rotate the tires, which for my mileage worked out to be about 6 months. I'd just mark the rims with duct tape and sharpie to know where to put them next season.
This does require storage for an extra set of wheels and tires, though.
@@cparks872 Yup, then the only problem is if you can easily change the TPMS codes your car is looking for or not. **glares at Toyota**
A high wear rated summer tire is worse than some ll seasons lol. At that point you are much better off with a performance all season like the continental dws06. Seriously, epic all seasons in snow and still pretty damn good in the summer too. Oh and theyre cheap ;)
If you are paying a shop to swap tires on your rims, that's 4 tirrs twice per year, or eight swaps. With two sets of tires you'll probably get four or five years, maybe more, so you are looking at 40 tire mounting charges in all. Buying a second of rims is usually cheaper, unless you drive something exotic. And junkyards sell "guaranteed as new" OEM wheels often for $75 each.
Hankook is a very impressive tire manufacturer. The Ventus S2 evo2 has a decibel rating of 69. I can confirm that these tires are night and day quiet, as compared to Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires on a BMW 428ix sedan.
I want grip as cc2 not decibel …hankook not
@matsoupanos2411 Being a quiet tire doesn't equate to poor grip.
@@dewaynehowse231 after 27000 km is dangerous when it’s wet
Thank you for the video, it was very informative! By the way “hysterisis” is an ancient Greek word that means delay. How cool is that? 😄😎
I have Sailun tyres...very good and not expensive 😎
How do
The Continental Pure contact LS tires compare to
The Hankook ION EVO tires is the video?
Problem is that I want more range in winter when range is depleted by lower temperatures. In summer the 20%-30% more range makes the additional range on a tire is negligible.
But does this mean I should get these over PSC2's for a plaid model S? Are they really going to grip on a launch like the Michelin's?
Can you explain please about CFM of front bumper with and without mesh (grill)? Does mesh affect on effectiveness of air heat exchange?
On my Model 3 Performance, I’ve been running Michelin PS4S but with the Porsche ‘NO’ spec since Tesla’s ‘TO’ spec has been much harder to find since they went with the worse performing Pirelli’s on newer models. I switch over to Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 for winters when the temps drop. It’s gonna be hard to convince me to switch from that combo… combined with Unplugged Performance upgraded sways, the M3P handles like nothing else I’ve driven with Michelin tread. There’s a reason why Tesla first put Michelins on our cars early on.
Can you please do a breakdown of a good winter tyre too? After watching this and last video about these hankook tyres, I bought them and boy does it make a difference on my EV!
Can you describe what differences you’ve noticed and on what EV you use them on?
@@jacobvriesema6633 sure. I drive a tesla model 3 long range and the difference that I notice most is how quiet they are and the grip. I had Michelin tyres that came with the vehicle and the grip was not nearly as good as with the Hankooks. And in rain they are superior to Michelin’s - grip in particular. I am super satisfied.
For winter I user Bridgestone Blizzak/Blizzars tyres as we have harsh winters here in Alps. And the grip is amazing, however the noise level is quite loud. I am eyeing Bridgestone tyres for the winter. But would love to hear a review of a winter tyre. Maybe Hankook? :-)
@@dinokatalenic8847 thanks for the reply. Did you notice any difference in range with the Hankook tires?
@@jacobvriesema6633 its hard to say. Especially because i do many kms. And dont really pay attention to range. I charge when i have to. For me grip is the most important thing together with longevity. The latter i am yet to see.
I'm not Jason, but I bought a set of Michelin XIce3 tires for my LEAF a few winters ago and have been impressed with them. The grip on the snow and ice is worlds better than my Ecopias that are all seasons, but I've been using them as summer tires after using them for a winter. The range is about the same as the Ecopias too. Just don't try to change the XIce tires with a manual tire changer because the sidewalls are so stiff they're very difficult to mount, at least I couldn't do it. The XIce tires are also extremely squishy on the occasional February afternoon that it gets warmer than 50 or 60F.
You may be perfectly okay with it, but I can't help but feel pain when I see you slalom with a Model S yoke. I wince with every over-the-shoulder shot ;).
I'm with you, it was awful for autocross! Multiple times I was fumbling with it because there was no wheel where I needed wheel.
$365 per tire.
That's a lot of miles at just 6% more efficient to make it worth the price.
But I value efficiency over racing performance.
Right now I have some Michelin CrossClimate 2's because I live in CO where it can be all seasons within a week.
The Subaru dealer didn't want to install some nice snows i bought for my wrx because the speed rating wasn't high enough. I told them i never drive over 108mph on the ice so don't worry.
Is this a good alternative for a heavy non electric vehicle? Like a minivan for example
I'm already on my 3rd set of 60,000mi original equipment Michelin tires for my BoltEV after 72,000 miles. Grrrr. I guess it is just too fun to drive around corners. Will try these Hankook tires next time?
re: "I guess it is just too fun to drive around corners." whoa whoa take it easy LEAD FOOT...!!! 3 sets...? tire rotations are your friend. tell the truth, you just like spending money don't ya...? 😄
Thank you for your explanation! 😃👍
But how do I find a tire that filters out the "slap" and "pop" on transverse joints? That annoys me the most! 🤷♂️
Better engineered suspension, higher quality components, and more sound deadening. Tires are just one variable in the suspension equation.
@@csdstudio78 Yes, but the only one I can change.
To do that with just a tire change you would want a smaller wheel for more sidewall
I just wonder if different profiles are available, I'd assume a round profile similar to a ATV tire would be better for cars with swing axle suspension but contact patch is definitely sacrificed there.
Are these tires out yet? I only see the AS version at America’s Tire and Tirerack.
Hmm, they also don’t even list the right size for model 3 with 19” wheels. Weird.
Is the summer tires available in the US?
The foam insert liner in the tire beside you... is that part of the tire or just for shipping protection?
Thats the noise cancelation foam. Most ev tires have it.
My question now is how does it affect ICE vehicles? So something compareable to a model 3 performance is a bmw m3. Would the BMW m3 get better mileage and other benefits?
Should I be running summer tires in Phoenix AZ where it almost never gets below 35 F?
Stiff SIDEWALL compound but the tread area is a soft compound. That's why soft summer tires wear faster than all seasons.
I love the tire videos, the difference between a $400 set of tires from Walmart and a high quality set of tires that costs much more isn’t just traction, the better tires are better in every way.
What do you actually think about the tires? Did you notice any increase in range? I’m having trouble finding actual reviews. Also… a question for the Hankook reps, when will these things be available on tire rack. I drive a taycan and would be interested in trying these out.
On our 2006 Prius, the difference between an "eco" tire and just any old tire was 10% on gas mileage. At the time, I didn't know there were better tires for gas mileage, and was pretty shocked at the difference.
You won't get any criticism here from Jason. These videos are little more than advertisements. I don't much like seeing really good UA-camrs compromise their independence like this.
Also very interested, disappointed to only see the AS tires in the market for now. My P zero PZ4 elect set is on its last legs.
I swear that you said you preferred all-weather tyres (because you don't need to change them) when you were testing the Cross Climate +
He prefaced the summer tire recommendation as, if you live in a climate where summer tires are almost always applicable.
Climate is important. If I can get away with it, I'd run summers year round. I can't. So for my performance cars (like M3P), I swap tires in late Spring/late Fall. For the Crosstrek, which sees a lot of snow use, I use all-weather because it means I'm not swapping every six months.
Cool video. But you had me at Hankooks are a lot cheaper than the Michelin O.E
Are there standardized tests for tires in North America? Where's the SAE on this?
My Corolla has triple A rated tires 😁 time to tire up the streets with my 132hp sedan
Tell you what, my Tesla has had nothing but horrible luck with the Pirellis (punctures, flats, worn out after 3000 miles) it came with, and then even much worse luck with the Continental DWS 06. Even though the DWS 06 is a 104W tire, I believe it can not handle the weight of the Tesla or the way it puts down power. Way too much sidewall flex. I am eagerly waiting for the Hankook iON evo AS SUV to be available in my size.
I'd like studless ice tires - there are a few companies that make them, and they actually work.
Unfortunately Hancook doesnt make 17 inch tires that fit on the Chevy Bolt EV. Im still looking around for good tires for the Bolt
I recently had to change the tires on my Taycan, but sadly the Hankook weren't available. :(
Is the weight capacity of the tire all three sets them apart from a not EV summer tire? Wouldn't better rolling resistance benefit ICE vehicles too? Maybe not in range as much, but in cost per mile or tank.
Anyone know where I can find the list of tires/tyres that are rated with the European standard (i.e. AAA rated)?
Can you make a video on ducted fuel injection (DFI) for diesel engines.
What's the difference between the ION EV and Ventus S1 Evo3 EV? My i4 came with Evo3 EVs.
I just bought Michelin Pilot Sport 5, did I mess up?
That all sounds good but unfortunately they don’t make them in 235/40 ZR20 (96Y) otherwise I’d purchase a set for my Cupra Born with sports pack tomorrow. I cannot get a single tyre in Australia in this spec from any manufacturer to replace my Michelin Pilot Sport EV tyres which are not available and on back order for the next six months.