I purchased this based on your recommendation. I've had it almost a year now. Every day, perfect coffee! Thanks for the recommend! I would have never found this.
I have the exact same machine! I have had it for over four years now. Lol was waiting for it to go on sale... it never did😂 So I finally spent $300 for a brand new one. Always brings out the best flavor out of whatever I buy. It’s always very satisfying when you spend money on something of great quality and it even exceeds your high expectations! Hope you enjoy your Technivorm Moccamaster years to come! I know I will ☺️
I used to go through Krups drip coffee makers almost every two years. However, I've had my Technivorm for over 16 years. I brew a pot of coffee every morning. I clean it out twice a year with a descaler. It's beginning to see its better days (tank leaks a little and it doesn't brew as hot as it once did), so I'm going to purchase another Technivorm. I've recommended this brand to other coffee lovers.
I took one with me when I worked in Iraq, in 2009. Got it from Boyd’s Coffee in, I think, Seattle. They were great, and helped me get it with the proper voltage configuration. When I returned stateside, Boyd’s got me the parts to convert it to our 110 volt system. I am still using it today, makes it very cost effective when you amortize the cost over 11 and who knows how many more years. I think it can be repaired indefinitely.
@@mariefeeley3282 Very happy, since it is now 11 years old and going strong. It will likely outlive me, as they are simply designed and can easily have parts replaced, the basic design has been the same for many years. I wanted a quality item that would last, and that delivered the water to the grounds at the proper temperature.
It's expensive but can last a lifetime. Take that into account. And in the rare case it breaks down, it's easy to repair. You can't get more value for your money. And when it lasts a lifetime, that even makes this coffee machine very eco friendly.
I have been drinking coffee for 30 years. This machine makes great coffee. I paid $319 on Amazon and picked up a burr grinder for about $240. I decided to go all in and get a scale to measure the coffee. Bottom line...great cup of coffee. I will enjoy for many years to come.
I did the same thing (acquiring a Moccamaster and a high end grinder) only got into the game a little later than you. Can say without equivocation, the Moccamaster is in a class all it's own. That brewer is precisely what I wanted to run off a wifi plug. So the smoothest cup of coffee on the planet starts brewing instantly upon my say so and is ready to savor in just 4 minutes. It doesn't get better than that when starting your day. My son was in town and couldn't believe the nuanced taste the Moccamaster brought out in the grounds. He said there's only one problem with the Moccamaster. You can't "untaste" the experience, making it virtually impossible not to go and buy one.
I know this is an old video but if you see my reply please let me know what your gram to ounce ratio that works best for you. Also an estimate on your grind size. Thanks
Love my Moccamaster! - and, after 10 years of daily use, the float switch failed. Moccamaster's excellent (and friendly!) service department quickly repaired and sent my favorite coffee maker back home (hopefully for another 15 years!) Highly recommend this brand.
Interesting. Ours has been in service for well over 15 years. The only issue is with the brew basket steep adjustment mechanism. Sometimes it seals and sometimes it does not. A minor issue though when this thing is consistently brewing over and over. If a company sells spare parts for expensive items, I would call that a good machine. That is precisely what Technivorm has done with the Moccamaster.
I have had mine (exact model in video) for over 15 years and still love it. I take really good care of it as well as our Baratza burr grinder. Coffee matters much in our home!
I bought one many years ago after your recommendation testing best tasting home brewed coffee . I've managed to break it I'm guessing by forgetting to turn it off , over the years it's overflowed , I miss it everyday . I'm sure it's a built in safety device that protected me and my house from the possibility of a house fire . I'm sure it's a easy repair I'm not sure of the cost of sending it to the company for refurbishing . Then if they offered a insulated craft to keep coffee hot while traveling I'd buy it. I will probably buy another one very soon thank you for posting all the great videos on your channel
I just got one of these for free Monday. Had no clue what it was for or how to use it. And when I googled the price it blew my mind. Can't wait to use it now!
I LOVE Moccamaster, definitely makes the best cup of coffee I've ever had! An important note is that the company offers different sizes of coffee makers and I have the One-Cup that is the cheapest because it only makes one 10 oz cup at a time. So if you only drink a few cups in the morning it's a better match for you. Looking into upgrading to a larger machine one day, though, since the quality of the coffee is so high.
The best way to ruin a perfectly good morning is with a disgusting batch of dishwater dregs. I supposedly live in a 'coffee' city, and not a single goddam one of these people can make a good cup. That's why I bought a Technivorm KBT.
We have one of those at our office. It makes good coffee from even inexpensive beans. Keep in mind that those ten cups are European cups. It makes about seven US cups.
Just got a Moccamaster KBT for Christmas, OMG my coffee consumption is through the roof!! Amazing what a difference it made going from a Ninja. Since this video they've redesigned the carafe a bit, it's supposed to be a bit easier to pour without dripping.
I've done a lot of research over the past several months and the Moccamaster and the Bonavita consistently rate at the top of the home drip pecking order, although there are some challengers to keep an eye on. It seems about half the reviews prefer the Moccamaster and about half think the Moccamaster & Bonavita work equally well. Of those people, about half seem to prefer the Moccamaster and half seem to prefer the Bonavita, as they seem to brew slightly different tasting cups. What convinced me to pay twice as much for a Technivorm is the consistent complaints about the design of the carafe on the Bonavita (hard to clean, impossible to completely empty, having to change lids to pour coffee) and enough reports of Bonavitas having a limited life-span. I've never seem a complaint about the reliability of the Technivorm. I am expecting to receive my Technivorm in a couple of days and the the vendor I purchased it from included 100 filters and some good, ground coffee so I can take it for a test run within an hour of opening the box. I can't wait!
Chris L how has your technivorm performed? I'm in the same boat deciding on Bonavita or technivorm. Another reason considering Bonavita is you can fit a chemex under it.
I have had both. The only difference is Bonavita gives out and often needs replacing. Technivorm lasts and has strong warranty. The key with Technivorm is to get metal carafe. The hot plate on the glass carafe ruins the coffee after an hour sitting.
@@larrybohannon1964 this....I'm on my second Bonavita because the switch relay on the first literally melted in the machine. It was bad enough I sent a pic to Bonavita and they sent me a new machine despite being well out of warranty. I'll probably get a Moccamaster when this one dies.
I just bought this machine second hand for about 50 dollars with a delonghi coffeegrinder for the same price, when I moved out of my parents house. My parrents had a 500 dollar Saeco coffeemaker. My coffee tastes almost as good. Pretty great if you ask me.
I recently got a Technivorm, but with the glass carafe, and love it - best coffee ever without a doubt. I'm tasting flavors and nuances that my prior machine just never could produce. Two questions, though: (1) How does this automatic 30-second hold-back that you describe actually work? And by this I mean, what mechanism do you see, or know about, that actually automatically holds back the coffee for the 30 seconds? I do not see anything in the drip basket that would cause or implement this 30-second hold-back. To me, on the newer model (without the manual switch), the valve at the bottom of the basket is either open when you put the carafe into position, or closed when you take it out. I'd love to learn more about how this feature works because I just don't see it . . . (2) I was initially hesitant to go with the glass carafe with the warmer for the same reasons you state - that the coffee could get burnt sitting in the glass carafe on the hot plate. Technivorm states that is specifically addresses this by keeping the plate at something like a 155 - 185 degree level and no hotter, which, they say, prevents the burning you talk about. The second switch on the glass carafe model, in fact, controls whether the burner is on the lower temp or the slightly higher one. Any input on whether Technivorm's close attention to the warmer plate issue is successful or not? I.E., does it do what it says it does, and not burn the coffee? Also, I'm liable to go through the pot in less than an hour, so if the concern is long-term (hour-plus) burning, but the short term is fine, that would be good information to know, too. Thanks!
I cannot speak to #1, but I have a guess on #2. Even if the burner never gets too hot, heat can build in the drink itself. Heat from the burner will never distribute evenly through the carafe. Most of it will concentrate at the bottom and will get far hotter than the burner itself. You can mitigate this by occasionally swirling the carafe, though.
@@icowrich Thanks for the reply and thoughts. It's been quite a while now since I've had the machine, and I settled into essentially an insulated carafe situation anyway, by brewing it into the glass carafe with the burner on the "low" setting, and then within no more than ten minutes or so of the brew completing just pouring it into the stainless steel insulated container. This seems to eliminate any potential for burnt taste - coffee is stupendous. And, since I never liked the look of the tall profile of the insulated model, while really liking the more compact look of the glass carafe model, this separate-insulated container approach really works well for me. (On my #1, I still am skeptical there is any "hold back" somehow programmed into the system. I think it's just the heating element sputtering at first as it starts to spool up to deliver the heated water.)
Juan Rial: Yes, you’re right. I shouldn’t have put it quite that way. It’s more that a hot plate cooks the liquid with the assumption that the heat will radiate away at a certain rate because heat is distributed uniformly when a pot of coffee is first made. But, over time, heat is concentrated near the burner and radiates out of the top, making the bottom of the pot hotter than the ideal 200°, ruining it. It doesn’t have to be hotter than the burner. It just has to be hotter than is ideal for coffee.
@@icowrich That's actually plausible, hadn't considered that angle yet (and here I am criticising your flawed physics, lol)... In an ideal world, the hot coffee would immediately rise and disperse its heat throughout the entire volume of the pot. In the real world, there's this pesky little thing called viscosity. Same thing happens with e.g. soups, stews, sauces, or the most dreaded liquid of all: milk! When it burns, it always burns at the bottom of the pot, never the sides.
I just got mine a few months ago along with a burr grinder. I think that once I settle on the best beans and roast, my mornings will be like a magical Disney morning! ;-)
Yes, it's expensive, compared to other coffee makers. But, let's do the math: $325, for 7 pots a week, 52 weeks a year...that's less than a dollar a day, and with a 5-year warranty, you're gonna get at least that long...so $.20 a day on average for excellent coffee? And even less the longer it lasts? I don't know about you, but that's fine by me. I'd rather spend an extra $.20 a day for amazing coffee. I presently use an insulted stainless steel French press, but I am seriously considering upgrading to this model.
My question is, can I get great decaf to make it worth while? I am sensitive to caffeine, and I need to keep my blood pressure low to keep healthy, and to keep my CDL.
Here in the Netherlands it's about 175 euros. Hmmmm. B.t.w. This coffemachine was made like this since 1964 and never really changed after that. So if it works, it works.
Old design to say the least, but the Technivorm is among a handful that meets the requirements of the European Coffee Brewers Centre and the Specialty Coffee Association of American guidelines. So, I would go with the Technivorm over the Breville in this case.
The company was founded in 64, but it didn't produce the first Moccamaster until 68'. They happen to have a repro of sorts of the 1968 version that looks amazing.
I worked at Circle K for 3 years. I made a lot of pots of coffee. If the customer was willing to wait 3 minutes and 27 seconds, I would make a fresh pot of coffee for them. However, I also managed to mess up making coffee in every way possible. Some of them were not covered in the operators manual. You know you can't make something foolproof because fools are so ingenious. I even had a coffee maker short circuit.
I remember my first time encountering a brew from the Moccamaster. The coffee sucked! Later I realized that the person making the coffee didn’t know how to make it right. Their ratios were way off. And they were using beans I didn’t like and hard water. I made a brew myself on the Moccamaster with good beans and filtered water with the proper ratio and the difference was night and day.
I’m looking for a replacement relay and on/off switch. Sadly those parts are almost impossible to find. There are some in Finland but between the switch (€29.99) and shipping (€29.99) it just doesn’t make sense. It does have a five year warranty but I’ve had it for 8 years. Shame as everything else about the coffee maker is rock solid.
call the company. you can ship it back to them. don't know if you're in the US but I think it's in Oregon? They will fix it for a fixed fee, was $99 and ship it back to you. Their customer service is great.
It's intestering how so many coffe makers manage to do it wrong. Seems dead simple to just use multiple holes for the pouring and wait until the water is hot enough before pouring it over the coffee. How coffee maker manufacturers manage to screw that up?
+BenRangel You get what you pay for I guess.. Me, I'll stick to my old french press, at least I can get more control over brewing time this way, and its fast.
Bah, I mix instant coffee with pencil shavings and plunk that into fully boiling water - then strain through gym socks and add horse radish. Ok, it's not great coffee, but it keeps people from visiting so I have more time to watch these videos.
This is a good brand…wish it had higher capacity to brew more coffee. Standard carafe makes about 2-3 cups … the larger carafe makes about 4 in my experience.
Would love for you to throw the new SCAA certified OXO Barista Brain 9 cup into your testing. I think the Moccamaster might have really met it's match for $100 less. I think It's unique automated pour over style of brewing sets this one apart from other brewers when it comes to flavor and we know it hits all the other important points since it is SCAA certified.
I have the version with the glass lined carafe. It's great. I did swap the brew basket out for the glass Hario v60 #3 dripper to avoid any potential impact of the hot water leaching plastic and altering the taste.
Anyone say this to much why not get sec hand thy are much less and thy give same koffie. I got old kgb 741 from my mother who dont need it any more. even i dont drink coffie i just love looks and sound it makes. so long i can remeber we got this type one in our home am now 35 Am from the Nederlands
I've had my Technivorm for at least 5 years now. I am known, thru my peers, as the best coffee and home made bread. I do not like the price, but, I use my machine 2 times a day and my coffee is consistently delicious. My complaint, plastic water reservoir. At $300 they should have used glass.
K boo you’re right! That was my one disappointment with the machine. It seems outrageous that the reservoir isn’t glass (although it would be subject to more breakage). That said, it’s a great machine.
Dear America's Test Kitchen ... How about giving a Top 10 or at least a Top 5 ... I want a REALLY good cup of java, but just can't afford this coffee maker. Give us some options here.
I decided the best cheaper option is a used Technivorm KBT... online auctions can be found, with missing carafe and missing parts for about $50-$60 for the main brewing unit. Parts are easily and cheaply available (Amazon or elsewhere), so I'm starting with the essential parts first (outlet arm and brew basket). Carafe and lids can come later (if at all) -- I'll probably just brew smaller batches directly into a travel mug.
I'm really thinking about buying one of these because you can replace the parts when it breaks down unlike the last guy to spend a $1000 for a snowblower you can buy them for $450 my Toro has lasted 30 years so far. This is an ad whether you like it or not where you can tell that, is go to their website and see if they're selling these,, they are so that right there makes it not a bias to review. There's nothing wrong with that,that's how you make money in America but everyone quoting all these numbers in places to go look and how they can't do that you're wrong they're selling them.
It looks like the carafe would be hard to wash with that small opening. At least for those of us without a dishwasher, and who have to use our hot little hands to wash up :-)
Chemex sells a cleaning brush that's perfect for that carafe. I just fill it with some caffiza solution and let it soak once every two weeks and hit it with a brush every other month
I received my machine a week ago and have been using it every day. Sometimes twice a day! Loving the coffee this machine makes! However, I noticed something that seems like a design flaw. When the machine is at its normal operating temperature (which is very not), the plastic water reservoir lid deforms to where it no longer sits flat on the water reservoir. I believe this has to do with the very close proximity of the plastic lid to the 9-hole water outlet arm. Once the machine cools this plastic lids then returns to its normal shape, where it can then rest flat on the water reservoir. This "heat/deform" and "cool/reform" of this plastic lid does not seem like it was designed into the machine and my concern is this may permanently warp the plastic water reservoir lid. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this issue as well. If so, has Moccamaster done anything to correct this problem?
I disagree with American test kitchen about the superiority of the metal carafe… After sitting for as little as 10 minutes, the coffee definitely tastes different when it comes in contact with the stainless steel. There is definitely some kind of reaction going on, which makes perfect since coffee is naturally acidic. I called Technivorm and asked if the carafe was made out of 18/8 or 18/10 stainless steel, and they were unable to answer my inquiry. 18/10 stainless steel is far better and not as reactive as 18/8... I have a a couple of stainless steel thermal teapots for brewing white tea, and with 18/10 steel, the tea remains it’s normal pale color and retains its fresh taste. When using the 18/8 tea pot, after about 15 minutes, the white tea turns dark brown and practically tastes toxic. Since coffee is naturally dark you wouldn’t see this color change in a stainless steel carafe, but I definitely taste the difference. Bottom line, buy the glass version of the Technivorm coffeemaker, and keep the hot plate on the low setting.
I can only assume that the OP was making a general statement about some other carafes that are made entirely of metal, because Technivorm's site shows their metal carafes are lined with 'borosilicate glass'. Although, that's the 1.25 liter carafe, and the other sizes don't mention a glass lining (probably just stainless steel with a vacuum). I think you can easily use almost any carafe with the KBT model, including pretty much any travel mug, with whatever lining you want. There are videos here on YT, about how to adapt to other carafes/mugs (without resorting to using electrical tape to hold down the carafe shutoff switch). If someone is especially concerned with the carafe situation, they might consider the Technivorm model that only makes one mug of coffee at a time -- that way your coffee is always fresh and hot. No carafe, no scorching, no nothing.
The stainless steel carafe was stainless steel inside and out until about a year ago when the carafe was redesigned and lined with glass. I still disagree with the idea that stainless steel affects the flavor of coffee, but this comment is not incorrect about the lining.
What these testings rarely mention is the build quality of the Technivorm is simply absurd in todays throw away world. My Moccamaster is well into its 2nd decade and still brews coffee like new. I paid about $300, with shipping, which works out to $20 per year for near perfect coffee day in day out over 15 years, $15 over 20 years. My recommendation is buy a Technivorm if you can afford it and don't worry about coffee makers for the next 20-30 years.
Love my Moccamaster, same model as this BUT.... I have to stir the brew basket otherwise half the coffee remains dry and it's a waste of coffee. Am I the only one experiencing this.
All Moccamasters have the same kind of heating, right? So you would get the same brewing with a cheaper model as well? As far as I've heard the main difference is in the details/features. (Like the cheaper models lacking drip cover and auto-off)
+BenRangel This is correct! All the Technivorm brewers use the same internal components, but different features can change the final brew. The H741 (a cheaper model) has a hot plate that you can't turn off, which will degrade the taste faster than if the coffee was brewed into a thermal carafe, for example. Still a great cup and quality of build all around though!
I looked at one of these and what I did not like was the gap between where the brewed coffee came out of the filter and the into the flask. There was a fairly big gap and surely this would effect the tempeture of the coffee and this is important espically with the version with the flask and no hot plate. I would not buy the hot plate version anyway as the coffee is stewed when left on heat unless you consume it straight away. Also I find it hard to believe this makes a better pour over than say a manual Kalita Wave system. I use the Kalita with the proper kettle, narrow spout ect and I find it difficult to consistantly get a good tasting coffee and while the flask is good the rest of the machine is mostly plastic, hard plastic but still plastic, I can imagine bits breaking off pretty easily in a busy kitchen.
I can confirm that gap does effect temperature, as you suspected. The coffee cools as it falls into the carafe. They mitigate this problem by providing a pour through funnel that lessens the distance the coffee falls, and the coffee I brew when using the funnel is perfectly fine temperature-wise. I’ve had my Technivorm for five years and it makes amazing coffee.
Nobody talks about how these things as expensive as they are, don’t have a timer. One of the most basic and useful functions! I come down to a hot and fresh pot of coffee every morning when I wake up with my cheap cuisinart machine. No way I am giving that up.
Using freshly ground beans will affect the taste of coffee the most. Next comes consistent water temperature at he brew head in the desired range for good coffee brewing. ATK compared a few well known coffee makers and and all but 2 of them did not get to the correct temperature.
+zeagias if that were true they would consistently recommend certain brands, but they don't also, if these were paid adverts it is illegal to not reveal that fact. Pay attention to commercials that use a spokesperson, there's always some text somewhere that declares that the spokesperson is being payed to say these things.
+drthmik " if that were true they would consistently recommend certain brands," *says who?* "but they don't also," wow... you aren't even trying to use sentences.... " if these were paid adverts it is illegal to not reveal that fact." Not sure about that... *Citations Please* "Pay attention to commercials that use a spokesperson, there's always some text somewhere that declares that the spokesperson is being payed to say these things." *always?* i don't think that is true... people don't make laws to prevent things that aren't happening.... that would suggest that if such a paid advertisement law is needed... it is certainly because there were paid advertisements that were NOT disclosed as such.... not much of a case for *always*....
I had to keep it simple for you It's an FTC and a FCC regulation and yes always It's the law www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/attachments/press-releases/ftc-staff-revises-online-advertising-disclosure-guidelines/130312dotcomdisclosures.pdf and transition.fcc.gov/mb/policy/
I can vouch for the machine since I’ve owned one for five years. Best automatic drip coffee maker on the market, especially when combined with a good burr grinder.
I have to disagree with this video. I own the Ninja Coffee Bar(NCB) and the MoccaMaster (MM). MM I use at work and the NCB at home. I have had the (NCB) for longer and love the coffee that comes out of this way more, and it is very consistent. It also has a tone of options. The one option we love is the Rich vs the classic. The classic is like Moccamaster. The Rich just makes richer tasting coffee as the option implies. I am actually wanting to get ride of the Moccamaster or keep as a backup and want to get another ninja to take to work.
calling this pourover feels weird to me. I mean, it is pourover. what is the difference between this and pourover? a goose kettle and a hipster beard? Yet, if the point of pourover is the filter, then no. unless a hario filter fits in this machine it's not going to modulate the oil content like in v60.
I purchased this based on your recommendation. I've had it almost a year now. Every day, perfect coffee! Thanks for the recommend! I would have never found this.
I have the exact same machine! I have had it for over four years now. Lol was waiting for it to go on sale... it never did😂 So I finally spent $300 for a brand new one. Always brings out the best flavor out of whatever I buy. It’s always very satisfying when you spend money on something of great quality and it even exceeds your high expectations! Hope you enjoy your Technivorm Moccamaster years to come! I know I will ☺️
My wife gifted me a Moccamaster for Fathers Day (2020) after dropping MANY MANY hints! I've been having great coffee ever since.
I just had a cup of coffee with this machine at my friend's house. Best Damn cup of coffee I've ever had.
I used to go through Krups drip coffee makers almost every two years. However, I've had my Technivorm for over 16 years. I brew a pot of coffee every morning. I clean it out twice a year with a descaler. It's beginning to see its better days (tank leaks a little and it doesn't brew as hot as it once did), so I'm going to purchase another Technivorm. I've recommended this brand to other coffee lovers.
You should be descaling it every 100 brews or three months.
I just bought one. I love it.
Wow I just bought my first one I hope it lasts 16 years 😅
I'm on a decade now with our oldest one and about 3 years with the newest. None of them have ever missed a beat and they always make an amazing cup.
I took one with me when I worked in Iraq, in 2009. Got it from Boyd’s Coffee in, I think, Seattle. They were great, and helped me get it with the proper voltage configuration. When I returned stateside, Boyd’s got me the parts to convert it to our 110 volt system. I am still using it today, makes it very cost effective when you amortize the cost over 11 and who knows how many more years. I think it can be repaired indefinitely.
Are you still happy with your moccasin master. Why’d I’d you choose it?
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@@mariefeeley3282 Very happy, since it is now 11 years old and going strong. It will likely outlive me, as they are simply designed and can easily have parts replaced, the basic design has been the same for many years. I wanted a quality item that would last, and that delivered the water to the grounds at the proper temperature.
It's expensive but can last a lifetime. Take that into account. And in the rare case it breaks down, it's easy to repair. You can't get more value for your money. And when it lasts a lifetime, that even makes this coffee machine very eco friendly.
I have been drinking coffee for 30 years. This machine makes great coffee. I paid $319 on Amazon and picked up a burr grinder for about $240. I decided to go all in and get a scale to measure the coffee. Bottom line...great cup of coffee. I will enjoy for many years to come.
I did the same thing (acquiring a Moccamaster and a high end grinder) only got into the game a little later than you. Can say without equivocation, the Moccamaster is in a class all it's own. That brewer is precisely what I wanted to run off a wifi plug. So the smoothest cup of coffee on the planet starts brewing instantly upon my say so and is ready to savor in just 4 minutes. It doesn't get better than that when starting your day. My son was in town and couldn't believe the nuanced taste the Moccamaster brought out in the grounds. He said there's only one problem with the Moccamaster. You can't "untaste" the experience, making it virtually impossible not to go and buy one.
@@thadtoomer9655 , like my friend says, "you never know how bad you've had it until you've had it "good" once!
I paid 368.00
I know this is an old video but if you see my reply please let me know what your gram to ounce ratio that works best for you. Also an estimate on your grind size. Thanks
Love my Moccamaster! - and, after 10 years of daily use, the float switch failed. Moccamaster's excellent (and friendly!) service department quickly repaired and sent my favorite coffee maker back home (hopefully for another 15 years!) Highly recommend this brand.
Where did you have to ship it for repairs?
Interesting. Ours has been in service for well over 15 years. The only issue is with the brew basket steep adjustment mechanism. Sometimes it seals and sometimes it does not. A minor issue though when this thing is consistently brewing over and over. If a company sells spare parts for expensive items, I would call that a good machine. That is precisely what Technivorm has done with the Moccamaster.
@@Taylor-ys2vh you can easily buy a new brew basket. it's on Amazon, Technivorm's website, coffee stores etc...
Great brewer and company. Thanks for the review!
+Seattle Coffee Gear can you suggest another coffee maker I can afford under $100?
+omt2010 The Bonavita 5-Cup makes a great cup. Take a look here: www.seattlecoffeegear.com/bonavita-5-cup-coffee-maker-with-stainless-steel-carafe
I was absolutely convinced once you showed the sciency stuff you did to measure coffee excellence.
I just got one of these! OMG!! It's just so wonderful! It's beautiful and the coffee is wonderful everytime!
I have had mine (exact model in video) for over 15 years and still love it. I take really good care of it as well as our Baratza burr grinder. Coffee matters much in our home!
I can vouch for the Technivorm. the best cup of drip coffee money can buy.
I bought one many years ago after your recommendation testing best tasting home brewed coffee . I've managed to break it I'm guessing by forgetting to turn it off , over the years it's overflowed , I miss it everyday . I'm sure it's a built in safety device that protected me and my house from the possibility of a house fire . I'm sure it's a easy repair I'm not sure of the cost of sending it to the company for refurbishing . Then if they offered a insulated craft to keep coffee hot while traveling I'd buy it. I will probably buy another one very soon thank you for posting all the great videos on your channel
I just got one of these for free Monday. Had no clue what it was for or how to use it. And when I googled the price it blew my mind. Can't wait to use it now!
I LOVE Moccamaster, definitely makes the best cup of coffee I've ever had! An important note is that the company offers different sizes of coffee makers and I have the One-Cup that is the cheapest because it only makes one 10 oz cup at a time. So if you only drink a few cups in the morning it's a better match for you. Looking into upgrading to a larger machine one day, though, since the quality of the coffee is so high.
I have the best! coffee every morning with this very same machine. A purchase I've never regretted.
The best way to ruin a perfectly good morning is with a disgusting batch of dishwater dregs. I supposedly live in a 'coffee' city, and not a single goddam one of these people can make a good cup. That's why I bought a Technivorm KBT.
We have one of those at our office. It makes good coffee from even inexpensive beans. Keep in mind that those ten cups are European cups. It makes about seven US cups.
Difference is that in europe we drink coffee, in murica you drink water with a small hint of coffee
Why are Euros frequently so arrogant? Insecurity complex I imagine...
@@asdonabe Because laughing at Murica is a european hobby. And we love it😘
Just got a Moccamaster KBT for Christmas, OMG my coffee consumption is through the roof!! Amazing what a difference it made going from a Ninja. Since this video they've redesigned the carafe a bit, it's supposed to be a bit easier to pour without dripping.
We have a Moccamaster and it is great. It is quick and brews hot and delicious coffee.
I am buy one! Thanks 🇳🇱 for the engineering and hands on. Love it!!
i agree, this coffee machine is absolutely amazing.. and for the reasons atk say!
I've done a lot of research over the past several months and the Moccamaster and the Bonavita consistently rate at the top of the home drip pecking order, although there are some challengers to keep an eye on. It seems about half the reviews prefer the Moccamaster and about half think the Moccamaster & Bonavita work equally well. Of those people, about half seem to prefer the Moccamaster and half seem to prefer the Bonavita, as they seem to brew slightly different tasting cups.
What convinced me to pay twice as much for a Technivorm is the consistent complaints about the design of the carafe on the Bonavita (hard to clean, impossible to completely empty, having to change lids to pour coffee) and enough reports of Bonavitas having a limited life-span. I've never seem a complaint about the reliability of the Technivorm.
I am expecting to receive my Technivorm in a couple of days and the the vendor I purchased it from included 100 filters and some good, ground coffee so I can take it for a test run within an hour of opening the box. I can't wait!
Chris L how has your technivorm performed? I'm in the same boat deciding on Bonavita or technivorm. Another reason considering Bonavita is you can fit a chemex under it.
I have had both. The only difference is Bonavita gives out and often needs replacing. Technivorm lasts and has strong warranty. The key with Technivorm is to get metal carafe. The hot plate on the glass carafe ruins the coffee after an hour sitting.
@@larrybohannon1964 this....I'm on my second Bonavita because the switch relay on the first literally melted in the machine. It was bad enough I sent a pic to Bonavita and they sent me a new machine despite being well out of warranty. I'll probably get a Moccamaster when this one dies.
@@kriskjellquist1758 On the moccamaster it is important to get the metal carafe model. NOT the heating element version.
That's the exact same one I have. Simple. Does the job properly. If only other tech could be this Efficient and simple.
I just bought this machine second hand for about 50 dollars with a delonghi coffeegrinder for the same price, when I moved out of my parents house. My parrents had a 500 dollar Saeco coffeemaker. My coffee tastes almost as good. Pretty great if you ask me.
I recently got a Technivorm, but with the glass carafe, and love it - best coffee ever without a doubt. I'm tasting flavors and nuances that my prior machine just never could produce. Two questions, though:
(1) How does this automatic 30-second hold-back that you describe actually work? And by this I mean, what mechanism do you see, or know about, that actually automatically holds back the coffee for the 30 seconds? I do not see anything in the drip basket that would cause or implement this 30-second hold-back. To me, on the newer model (without the manual switch), the valve at the bottom of the basket is either open when you put the carafe into position, or closed when you take it out. I'd love to learn more about how this feature works because I just don't see it . . .
(2) I was initially hesitant to go with the glass carafe with the warmer for the same reasons you state - that the coffee could get burnt sitting in the glass carafe on the hot plate. Technivorm states that is specifically addresses this by keeping the plate at something like a 155 - 185 degree level and no hotter, which, they say, prevents the burning you talk about. The second switch on the glass carafe model, in fact, controls whether the burner is on the lower temp or the slightly higher one. Any input on whether Technivorm's close attention to the warmer plate issue is successful or not? I.E., does it do what it says it does, and not burn the coffee? Also, I'm liable to go through the pot in less than an hour, so if the concern is long-term (hour-plus) burning, but the short term is fine, that would be good information to know, too.
Thanks!
I cannot speak to #1, but I have a guess on #2. Even if the burner never gets too hot, heat can build in the drink itself. Heat from the burner will never distribute evenly through the carafe. Most of it will concentrate at the bottom and will get far hotter than the burner itself. You can mitigate this by occasionally swirling the carafe, though.
@@icowrich Thanks for the reply and thoughts. It's been quite a while now since I've had the machine, and I settled into essentially an insulated carafe situation anyway, by brewing it into the glass carafe with the burner on the "low" setting, and then within no more than ten minutes or so of the brew completing just pouring it into the stainless steel insulated container. This seems to eliminate any potential for burnt taste - coffee is stupendous. And, since I never liked the look of the tall profile of the insulated model, while really liking the more compact look of the glass carafe model, this separate-insulated container approach really works well for me. (On my #1, I still am skeptical there is any "hold back" somehow programmed into the system. I think it's just the heating element sputtering at first as it starts to spool up to deliver the heated water.)
@@icowrich That's not how physics works. The coffee at the bottom will never get hotter than the warming plate below it.
Juan Rial: Yes, you’re right. I shouldn’t have put it quite that way. It’s more that a hot plate cooks the liquid with the assumption that the heat will radiate away at a certain rate because heat is distributed uniformly when a pot of coffee is first made. But, over time, heat is concentrated near the burner and radiates out of the top, making the bottom of the pot hotter than the ideal 200°, ruining it.
It doesn’t have to be hotter than the burner. It just has to be hotter than is ideal for coffee.
@@icowrich That's actually plausible, hadn't considered that angle yet (and here I am criticising your flawed physics, lol)... In an ideal world, the hot coffee would immediately rise and disperse its heat throughout the entire volume of the pot. In the real world, there's this pesky little thing called viscosity.
Same thing happens with e.g. soups, stews, sauces, or the most dreaded liquid of all: milk! When it burns, it always burns at the bottom of the pot, never the sides.
I just got mine a few months ago along with a burr grinder. I think that once I settle on the best beans and roast, my mornings will be like a magical Disney morning! ;-)
Yes, it's expensive, compared to other coffee makers. But, let's do the math: $325, for 7 pots a week, 52 weeks a year...that's less than a dollar a day, and with a 5-year warranty, you're gonna get at least that long...so $.20 a day on average for excellent coffee? And even less the longer it lasts? I don't know about you, but that's fine by me. I'd rather spend an extra $.20 a day for amazing coffee. I presently use an insulted stainless steel French press, but I am seriously considering upgrading to this model.
Prodigal Son well said!
@@maryevans9695 No, it is French. It is always insulted.
@@jc5604 😂😂😂
Got mine for $180 from Amazon! Apparently open boxed ones are super cheap.
Great video and review and it’s very interesting and informative as well as entertaining. Thanks for your time
That moment she ROASTs your coffee maker
Adding that to my wish list now.
We had that at Digital Garage, made a good brew. Kind of a pain to set up and clean but I suppose not more than a regular drip machine.
Best Coffee Maker ever!
The best. Thx for the recommendation
Excellent review
Mine is still running like a champ.
Over ten years of daily use.
My question is, can I get great decaf to make it worth while? I am sensitive to caffeine, and I need to keep my blood pressure low to keep healthy, and to keep my CDL.
Here in the Netherlands it's about 175 euros. Hmmmm.
B.t.w. This coffemachine was made like this since 1964 and never really changed after that.
So if it works, it works.
Old design to say the least, but the Technivorm is among a handful that meets the requirements of the European Coffee Brewers Centre and the Specialty Coffee Association of American guidelines. So, I would go with the Technivorm over the Breville in this case.
The company was founded in 64, but it didn't produce the first Moccamaster until 68'. They happen to have a repro of sorts of the 1968 version that looks amazing.
The claim at 01:58 is incorrect. There is no 30 second delay of the water in any Moccamaster models.
Is the water heated in plastic? Can someone make a completely non plastic drip machine please?
I worked at Circle K for 3 years. I made a lot of pots of coffee. If the customer was willing to wait 3 minutes and 27 seconds, I would make a fresh pot of coffee for them. However, I also managed to mess up making coffee in every way possible. Some of them were not covered in the operators manual. You know you can't make something foolproof because fools are so ingenious. I even had a coffee maker short circuit.
This was so helpful, but please do an espresso machine next! I can't decide.
Hi Alexandra, we have indeed tested espresso machines! Take a look: www.cooksillustrated.com/articles/480-testing-espresso-machines
Hi. Do you have the height of this brand of coffee maker?? Just wondering if it will fit into the area I have for it??
I remember my first time encountering a brew from the Moccamaster. The coffee sucked! Later I realized that the person making the coffee didn’t know how to make it right. Their ratios were way off. And they were using beans I didn’t like and hard water. I made a brew myself on the Moccamaster with good beans and filtered water with the proper ratio and the difference was night and day.
I’m looking for a replacement relay and on/off switch. Sadly those parts are almost impossible to find. There are some in Finland but between the switch (€29.99) and shipping (€29.99) it just doesn’t make sense. It does have a five year warranty but I’ve had it for 8 years.
Shame as everything else about the coffee maker is rock solid.
call the company. you can ship it back to them. don't know if you're in the US but I think it's in Oregon? They will fix it for a fixed fee, was $99 and ship it back to you. Their customer service is great.
Any plans to do an update?
It's intestering how so many coffe makers manage to do it wrong. Seems dead simple to just use multiple holes for the pouring and wait until the water is hot enough before pouring it over the coffee. How coffee maker manufacturers manage to screw that up?
+BenRangel
You get what you pay for I guess..
Me, I'll stick to my old french press, at least I can get more control over brewing time this way, and its fast.
Bah, I mix instant coffee with pencil shavings and plunk that into fully boiling water - then strain through gym socks and add horse radish. Ok, it's not great coffee, but it keeps people from visiting so I have more time to watch these videos.
which pencils do you recommend?
Standard HB works fine - just try to find something that is varnished rather than painted.
Heather Spoonheim 2B
Paul Murray 2B
😂
Your hair's looking great!
This is a good brand…wish it had higher capacity to brew more coffee. Standard carafe makes about 2-3 cups … the larger carafe makes about 4 in my experience.
How does it automatically hold back the coffee for 30 seconds?
I have the same question.
It doesn't. I don't know why they made this claim
Would love for you to throw the new SCAA certified OXO Barista Brain 9 cup into your testing. I think the Moccamaster might have really met it's match for $100 less.
I think It's unique automated pour over style of brewing sets this one apart from other brewers when it comes to flavor and we know it hits all the other important points since it is SCAA certified.
Do you still feel the same way 5 years later? I think the Moccamaster will out last all others ✌️
@@jamesspinks716ive had mine for 6 years and its still working well
Awesome 😎😃👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have the version with the glass lined carafe. It's great. I did swap the brew basket out for the glass Hario v60 #3 dripper to avoid any potential impact of the hot water leaching plastic and altering the taste.
Anyone say this to much why not get sec hand thy are much less and thy give same koffie.
I got old kgb 741 from my mother who dont need it any more. even i dont drink coffie i just love looks and sound it makes. so long i can remeber we got this type one in our home am now 35
Am from the Nederlands
The water was brought from room temperature to 195-210 degrees in “seconds, not minutes”? 🤔
I've had my Technivorm for at least 5 years now. I am known, thru my peers, as the best coffee and home made bread. I do not like the price, but, I use my machine 2 times a day and my coffee is consistently delicious. My complaint, plastic water reservoir. At $300 they should have used glass.
K boo you’re right! That was my one disappointment with the machine. It seems outrageous that the reservoir isn’t glass (although it would be subject to more breakage). That said, it’s a great machine.
I think they chose plastic so that it's less likely to break.
After 3 years of research, I decided to buy the Technivorm in this video... the KBT model.
Dear America's Test Kitchen ... How about giving a Top 10 or at least a Top 5 ... I want a REALLY good cup of java, but just can't afford this coffee maker. Give us some options here.
+Carolyn Shelton The coffee brewer review link in the description provides multiple choices for alternatives.
@kokakoliah Two years late and making the same reply or near on way too many other comments. We get it, you like your pourover. Big whoop.
I decided the best cheaper option is a used Technivorm KBT... online auctions can be found, with missing carafe and missing parts for about $50-$60 for the main brewing unit. Parts are easily and cheaply available (Amazon or elsewhere), so I'm starting with the essential parts first (outlet arm and brew basket). Carafe and lids can come later (if at all) -- I'll probably just brew smaller batches directly into a travel mug.
1:04 - I heard "And you stick the crap underneath" :)
Sold!
I'm really thinking about buying one of these because you can replace the parts when it breaks down unlike the last guy to spend a $1000 for a snowblower you can buy them for $450 my Toro has lasted 30 years so far.
This is an ad whether you like it or not where you can tell that, is go to their website and see if they're selling these,, they are so that right there makes it not a bias to review. There's nothing wrong with that,that's how you make money in America but everyone quoting all these numbers in places to go look and how they can't do that you're wrong they're selling them.
Expensive machine but worth every penny
Why does manual say to not use distilled water ?
It looks like the carafe would be hard to wash with that small opening. At least for those of us without a dishwasher, and who have to use our hot little hands to wash up :-)
New AG Garden Use a bottle brush to wash the carafe.
Chemex sells a cleaning brush that's perfect for that carafe. I just fill it with some caffiza solution and let it soak once every two weeks and hit it with a brush every other month
Heather Spoonheim! You brew coffee just the way I like it. When can I come over? :-)
I received my machine a week ago and have been using it every day. Sometimes twice a day! Loving the coffee this machine makes! However, I noticed something that seems like a design flaw. When the machine is at its normal operating temperature (which is very not), the plastic water reservoir lid deforms to where it no longer sits flat on the water reservoir. I believe this has to do with the very close proximity of the plastic lid to the 9-hole water outlet arm. Once the machine cools this plastic lids then returns to its normal shape, where it can then rest flat on the water reservoir. This "heat/deform" and "cool/reform" of this plastic lid does not seem like it was designed into the machine and my concern is this may permanently warp the plastic water reservoir lid. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this issue as well. If so, has Moccamaster done anything to correct this problem?
Thanks Karen!
damn that is one good looking thing.
did they test the breville precision brewer
i have and sale this product and it's amazing
I was gifted this model. I read it’s made for a full pot brewing but I only need half pots. Anyone doing this and have suggestions?
Fill the water up to where u need it to and I think it will cut off when it’s done.
$350 for a coffee maker? You must be nuts!
I disagree with American test kitchen about the superiority of the metal carafe… After sitting for as little as 10 minutes, the coffee definitely tastes different when it comes in contact with the stainless steel. There is definitely some kind of reaction going on, which makes perfect since coffee is naturally acidic. I called Technivorm and asked if the carafe was made out of 18/8 or 18/10 stainless steel, and they were unable to answer my inquiry. 18/10 stainless steel is far better and not as reactive as 18/8... I have a a couple of stainless steel thermal teapots for brewing white tea, and with 18/10 steel, the tea remains it’s normal pale color and retains its fresh taste. When using the 18/8 tea pot, after about 15 minutes, the white tea turns dark brown and practically tastes toxic. Since coffee is naturally dark you wouldn’t see this color change in a stainless steel carafe, but I definitely taste the difference. Bottom line, buy the glass version of the Technivorm coffeemaker, and keep the hot plate on the low setting.
The stainless steel carafe has a glass lining
This comment is purely nonsense on the basis that the version with stainless steel carafe is actually glass on the inside.
I can only assume that the OP was making a general statement about some other carafes that are made entirely of metal, because Technivorm's site shows their metal carafes are lined with 'borosilicate glass'.
Although, that's the 1.25 liter carafe, and the other sizes don't mention a glass lining (probably just stainless steel with a vacuum).
I think you can easily use almost any carafe with the KBT model, including pretty much any travel mug, with whatever lining you want. There are videos here on YT, about how to adapt to other carafes/mugs (without resorting to using electrical tape to hold down the carafe shutoff switch).
If someone is especially concerned with the carafe situation, they might consider the Technivorm model that only makes one mug of coffee at a time -- that way your coffee is always fresh and hot. No carafe, no scorching, no nothing.
The stainless steel carafe was stainless steel inside and out until about a year ago when the carafe was redesigned and lined with glass. I still disagree with the idea that stainless steel affects the flavor of coffee, but this comment is not incorrect about the lining.
What these testings rarely mention is the build quality of the Technivorm is simply absurd in todays throw away world. My Moccamaster is well into its 2nd decade and still brews coffee like new. I paid about $300, with shipping, which works out to $20 per year for near perfect coffee day in day out over 15 years, $15 over 20 years. My recommendation is buy a Technivorm if you can afford it and don't worry about coffee makers for the next 20-30 years.
Thought you were Leslie Winkle (big bang theory) for a second....had to google it
Anyone else use the and MM and find it over extracts the beans?
If it ain't Dutch it ain't much!
Love my Moccamaster, same model as this BUT.... I have to stir the brew basket otherwise half the coffee remains dry and it's a waste of coffee. Am I the only one experiencing this.
What's this brew basket feature mentioned at 1:58? I can't find anything on that and I suspect it's a mistake in the video. Thumbs down!
It's definitely incorrect. Not sure where they got this info
moccamaster rocks
in all fairness it is not hard to be ''the best'' when most everything else is junk.
More like Made in China shit that lasts 1 -2 years.
@@vittoriostoraro yeah, my Ninja is now taking a dump. :( yes, made in china. BOO
@@sharonlatour6230 That's what you get for buying commie crap. LOL
I still agree. but Breville, OXO, Ratio, etc. have really gained a ton of ground on the Mochamaster over the last five years
Walter White and Gale would not approve of this machine!
Väga hea kohvimasin! Hind Prismas 179€
You should try the Behmor Brazen Plus, its SCAA certified
All Moccamasters have the same kind of heating, right? So you would get the same brewing with a cheaper model as well?
As far as I've heard the main difference is in the details/features. (Like the cheaper models lacking drip cover and auto-off)
+BenRangel This is correct! All the Technivorm brewers use the same internal components, but different features can change the final brew. The H741 (a cheaper model) has a hot plate that you can't turn off, which will degrade the taste faster than if the coffee was brewed into a thermal carafe, for example. Still a great cup and quality of build all around though!
I looked at one of these and what I did not like was the gap between where the brewed coffee came out of the filter and the into the flask. There was a fairly big gap and surely this would effect the tempeture of the coffee and this is important espically with the version with the flask and no hot plate. I would not buy the hot plate version anyway as the coffee is stewed when left on heat unless you consume it straight away. Also I find it hard to believe this makes a better pour over than say a manual Kalita Wave system. I use the Kalita with the proper kettle, narrow spout ect and I find it difficult to consistantly get a good tasting coffee and while the flask is good the rest of the machine is mostly plastic, hard plastic but still plastic, I can imagine bits breaking off pretty easily in a busy kitchen.
I can confirm that gap does effect temperature, as you suspected. The coffee cools as it falls into the carafe. They mitigate this problem by providing a pour through funnel that lessens the distance the coffee falls, and the coffee I brew when using the funnel is perfectly fine temperature-wise. I’ve had my Technivorm for five years and it makes amazing coffee.
Nobody talks about how these things as expensive as they are, don’t have a timer. One of the most basic and useful functions! I come down to a hot and fresh pot of coffee every morning when I wake up with my cheap cuisinart machine. No way I am giving that up.
Lisa looks like she drunk too much coffee. LOL
Now costs $350.°°
so... do you guys only do ads now?
Just buy a hario cone and paper filters. If you don’t have the 5minutes it takes to pour water over coffee then change your life.
Using freshly ground beans will affect the taste of coffee the most. Next comes consistent water temperature at he brew head in the desired range for good coffee brewing. ATK compared a few well known coffee makers and and all but 2 of them did not get to the correct temperature.
I’d also add, using a good burr grinder. It’s right up there with fresh beans and water temperature.
i over pour with mellita . obtain artfully satisfying results.
without gadgetry.
I think I will just drive 3 minutes to Tim Hortons drive through 😁 🇨🇦🥇✨✨✨✨✨.
I believe the company Bonavita makes a similar product at a lower price.
Yeah..made in Gina..
My Bonavita died after 18 months...can’t be repaired.
$310? Yeah i would say that is slightly over the top.
+Ryan Hochrad Sometimes I am scared that these arent actual reviews but paid advertisements
+zeagias if that were true they would consistently recommend certain brands, but they don't
also, if these were paid adverts it is illegal to not reveal that fact.
Pay attention to commercials that use a spokesperson, there's always some text somewhere that declares that the spokesperson is being payed to say these things.
+Ryan Hochrad We got ours one sale for 200 and it is an amazing coffee maker.
+drthmik
" if that were true they would consistently recommend certain brands,"
*says who?*
"but they don't also,"
wow... you aren't even trying to use sentences....
" if these were paid adverts it is illegal to not reveal that fact."
Not sure about that...
*Citations Please*
"Pay attention to commercials that use a spokesperson, there's always
some text somewhere that declares that the spokesperson is being payed
to say these things."
*always?*
i don't think that is true...
people don't make laws to prevent things that aren't happening.... that would suggest that if such a paid advertisement law is needed... it is certainly because there were paid advertisements that were NOT disclosed as such....
not much of a case for *always*....
I had to keep it simple for you
It's an FTC and a FCC regulation
and yes
always
It's the law
www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/attachments/press-releases/ftc-staff-revises-online-advertising-disclosure-guidelines/130312dotcomdisclosures.pdf
and
transition.fcc.gov/mb/policy/
This seems like it might be just an ad for that coffee maker. 3rd video review from them on it.
I can vouch for the machine since I’ve owned one for five years. Best automatic drip coffee maker on the market, especially when combined with a good burr grinder.
I have to disagree with this video. I own the Ninja Coffee Bar(NCB) and the MoccaMaster (MM). MM I use at work and the NCB at home. I have had the (NCB) for longer and love the coffee that comes out of this way more, and it is very consistent. It also has a tone of options. The one option we love is the Rich vs the classic. The classic is like Moccamaster. The Rich just makes richer tasting coffee as the option implies. I am actually wanting to get ride of the Moccamaster or keep as a backup and want to get another ninja to take to work.
calling this pourover feels weird to me. I mean, it is pourover. what is the difference between this and pourover? a goose kettle and a hipster beard? Yet, if the point of pourover is the filter, then no. unless a hario filter fits in this machine it's not going to modulate the oil content like in v60.