7 Secrets The Motorcycle Industry Will Never Tell You

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  • Let's discuss the seven secrets the motorcycle industry will never tell you. For many people buying a motorcycle is a major purchase - sometimes an emotional purchase. It's essential that we understand what goes on and the true cost involved.
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  • @OldNotDead-Club
    @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +9

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  • @patrickjoy9551
    @patrickjoy9551 Рік тому +7

    Truth in your words. I have almost been swept away by those "emotions" of which you speak. I ride a 22 year old Harley and poped into a dealership a few months back. They had a RK special on the floor and my eyes glazed over. It was like a moth to flame. Fortunately had the wife with me and she snapped me out of it. Hopped back on my old heritage springer and had to brush the bugs out of my teeth once home. It still puts an uncontrollable smile on my face even after owning it for 20 years (the bike not the wife 😂). I have had her for almost 40 years so I think I will keep her too.

  • @goldilocks913
    @goldilocks913 Рік тому +14

    Excellent advice , I really appreciate your blend of common sense, passion and humour.
    Even though I’d like a fairing and hard luggage I’m not ready to go into debt for it just yet.

  • @mickmccluand4677
    @mickmccluand4677 Рік тому +8

    11:50 Totally relatable, I recently visited the local dealership where I saw a very low k's RK special. It's mere presence began to fog all rational thought but I managed to snap out of it enough to leave with the bank balance relatively intact. Yesterday I was gone most of the day on the old Dyna and came home with a grin, proving you don't need anything fancy to have a good time on a motorcycle.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Lol the RKS is awesome and has got me under its spell many times

  • @f.t.w1066
    @f.t.w1066 Рік тому +6

    I was bored for 52 years and 42 Iron Horses later.. Think I need ma Head examined..☠️.. All ways good to tune in. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Scrote69A
    @Scrote69A Рік тому +7

    Can’t wait bloke

  • @Gnarly_Harley
    @Gnarly_Harley Рік тому +10

    Another bloody great video mate ! Cheers for always being so honest and real

  • @WOLFIE-96B-UK
    @WOLFIE-96B-UK Рік тому +3

    Very informative video! I own 2008 Softail Custom, bought with my head and my heart. Saw it in the dealer and it blew me away. It was 2 years old and had all the accessories already on it that I would have put on. Had it 13 years now and have absolutely no intention of trading up for a new bike! 🇬🇧

  • @paulfreespirit
    @paulfreespirit Рік тому +4

    Doing your homework and test riding several models from more than one manufacture helps you make a good decision and it's good fun, that's what I did before buying my Chieftain Dark Horse 116 in 2021,

  • @okiemale1589
    @okiemale1589 Рік тому +4

    😎👍 Great video...
    Big thumbs up for my Brothers down under...
    I am the poster child for why someone should buy the Extended Warranty...
    I purchased a 3 year Extended Warranty a year ago for $2,500 USD, tires and wheels not included...
    I now have receipts for over $10,000 USD that the Extended Warranty covered...
    I paid cash for my 2015 Ultra Classic Low 2 years ago because I didn't want any monthly payments..
    Recently I checked on a couple websites and I could sell my Ultra for about what I paid for it, if not a little more...

  • @joskorivic
    @joskorivic Рік тому +4

    I really don't know who goes to the dealer and spends the price of a CVO on new Street Glide Special (with upgrades and Finance)! You can always find a really good used bike, as you said, with some Km on the clock.
    That's great Video Ayman! Straight to the point of reality as for many people the brand New Bike is out of range.
    Cheers ✌🏻

  • @peterconnell3162
    @peterconnell3162 Рік тому +2

    Buying dealer demo’s is sound advice and I have done it a number of times when I find the model I want. Also changing oil between services on car and bike is for me standard practice. It’s important, particularly when your bike has been standing over winter. Getting fresh oil in there really benefits the engine. When I buy an expensive motorcycle like a Street Glide Special, I always take out the extended warranty. It makes selling the bike privately so much easier after three or four years.

  • @jackchristodoulou197
    @jackchristodoulou197 Рік тому +9

    Fricken bored I have turned over 25 different bikes due to boredom they were all good bikes I am the king at wasting money, now at the age of 60 I brought my first and last Harley and I am done turn over bikes

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +2

      Lol I can relate to that. Cars also lol

    • @timnevitt2993
      @timnevitt2993 Рік тому

      me too 2008 i have bought 7 new harleys with my newwest one 2022 road glide st

    • @jessetate3110
      @jessetate3110 Рік тому

      Road glide blah blah fuckin loddy blah

  • @jimmyfrombrooklyn8550
    @jimmyfrombrooklyn8550 Рік тому +5

    Great video and sound advice Aymen. One of the great things about a Harley is that they’re highly customizable, often stuff you can do yourself if you’re mechanically inclined. So there’s the satisfaction of riding something uniquely yours and maybe saving a few dollars too. Ride safe

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Well said!

    • @Sinister_fartbox
      @Sinister_fartbox Рік тому

      Haha Harleys reliability sky rocketed when china started to produce the bikes instead hahaha

  • @distancejunkiemonkey4491
    @distancejunkiemonkey4491 2 місяці тому +1

    2008 Bandit 1250S, purchased April 2023 it from the original owner, 9500 miles on it, $4000. Ive done my own upgrades, suspension, brakes, seat, exhaust, tuner, and a top case. Incredible bike, rides two up, commutes, its comfortable. one of the best bikes to live with

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  2 місяці тому +1

      That's a good buy

    • @distancejunkiemonkey4491
      @distancejunkiemonkey4491 2 місяці тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club we've been using it for all of our two up rides, as the HD will be at the dealership for another month, for repairs. HD is putting a brand new engine on , all under warranty. The Bandit 1250 is a very good utility MC. Now with the upgrades it's an incredible mc! We did 321 miles on a day ride, combination of freeway and canyon roads. No hot spots, no aches.

  • @trez2187
    @trez2187 9 місяців тому +1

    Mr. Eamon,
    I'm sure you already know cause ya seem the sort of bloke that's worked hard and succeeded frequently.
    Imho, your channel will blow up. Your honest, don't waste time and full of knowledge.
    GOOD ON YA MATE!
    1982 KZ 750 was my first street. What a beast it was.
    Doc AJ

  • @Marcuzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    @Marcuzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Рік тому +5

    Whoooop! Lets go

  • @mikehowarth6165
    @mikehowarth6165 Рік тому +2

    Great video Aymen,I bought my deluxe , private,so saved a few quid,here in UK,,i,try to do,all the oil changes ,myself,and general maintenance, best wishes Michael United Kingdom

  • @windyfoust7188
    @windyfoust7188 6 місяців тому

    I am grateful you share your knowledge! You offer gold nuggets every video! I kept in mind what you shared regarding getting a bike as close to what we want as it is. I did my research and found, and bought, my first Harley and love it! I got a very low mileage 2 year old, 2021, Street Bob 114 with a stage 1, V&H short shots, flash tune, custom saddleman seat with rack and 662 miles. I purchased at 14k. This is my love! I have done a few things to it to accommodate my height to make the ride more comfortable and suspect I will continue to do such as it is my first bike. Lol Thanks again for your words of wisdom!!

  • @Jim_Berry
    @Jim_Berry Рік тому +3

    Another good discussion and you’re spot on with your comments.

  • @MrSecurity88
    @MrSecurity88 Рік тому +3

    Another great video mate. The reason a dealership can offer cheaper insurance is because they get a commission on selling you the insurance and they then can pass on the value of that commission to you.

  • @ET0000
    @ET0000 Рік тому +1

    Great advice mate........always a pleasure hearing someone speak logical and without bullshit! Cheers 😎

  • @seekerofthenarrowgate8716
    @seekerofthenarrowgate8716 Рік тому +3

    In my experience when purchasing a new bike, I prefer to order one. That way there are no accessories that I don't want added by the dealer, I get the color that I want, and I'm not paying above MSRP. I order at the end of the riding season and have a shiny new toy awaiting in the spring. Added bonus is not having to store my trade in for the winter. Keep up the good work with the videos. Cheers! 🍺

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Yep ordering exactly what you want is a great thing. I have done that many times.

  • @danr919
    @danr919 Рік тому +5

    Glad I never buy a bike brand new or from a dealership. But this will be interesting

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Second hand has many benefits

    • @danr919
      @danr919 Рік тому +2

      @@OldNotDead-Club especially when someone buys it brand new, decks it out with all the goodies and then sells it with only a couple of thousand km’s on clock. There is so many like that. I always wonder why the change of heart after all the money spent

    • @jackchristodoulou197
      @jackchristodoulou197 Рік тому +1

      @@danr919 because they get bored I have unfortunately done it many times

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      @@danr919 spot on!

  • @WindsurferHD
    @WindsurferHD Рік тому +3

    I bought a loaded used 2002 Fatboy last summer. It had 15,000 miles on it. It cost $4500. He had more than $5,000 in accessories in the bike. I paid cash. No way I’m buying a new bike. You buy a new bike then you still have the costs of accessories plus upgrades. I’m just not going to waste money with that route. I just went for a little 350 mile ride to eastern Oklahoma in 102 degree heat. No issues, the bike ran great. I stayed hydrated. When I got home I drank a Gatorade plus two cold beers. I ate nothing all day, just to hot. I loved the ride from the DFW area. Man you are spot on with the complexity of new technologies. Harley Goldwings have evolved minus the plastic. To much technology for me coming from a guy who owned 4 Goldwings. I got tired of the plastic and weight.
    I loved this video. Love the channel brother. Stay safe.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Thank you, stay safe

    • @Sinister_fartbox
      @Sinister_fartbox Рік тому

      Haha Harleys reliability sky rocketed when china started to produce the bikes instead hahaha

  • @peterhannan847
    @peterhannan847 Рік тому +3

    Let's talk Oils!! or servicing?!? When I picked up my 02 RoadKing it had one of those "Performance" "reusable" Oil filters fitted to it, When I decided to change the oil I took one look at the stupid thing and asked myself "how are you supposed to clean this piece of Junk??" It was full of metal shavings from what I could see, so I fitted a standard paper filter in its place. At the time i also serviced the bike every 5k and over the course of about three oil changes I noticed the amount of metal that came out on the sump plug magnet dramatically reduced to nothing!! I've since changed to 8k servicing since I picked up the SuperGlide and the RoadKing is still trucking with 152k on the clock, standard filters each change and HD's proffered Oils. I'm happy!!

  • @thejerseyj5479
    @thejerseyj5479 Рік тому +2

    Aha! It's Aymen. You're a good dude, thanks for your efforts.

  • @tonyasjdhdu4267
    @tonyasjdhdu4267 11 місяців тому +1

    As a mechanic I worked in dealerships for most of my career so when buying a car or bike I know how the dealer operates and how the manufacturer operates. When buying a Harley you need to know that while they are an iconic brand, they have their faults. Example, the oil pumps on the twin cams had an oil pressure relief valve issue (that's why I change my oil every 5000 km on my road king) and the early M8 had oil slumping issues. I will bet you that they will have issues on the new CVO VVT as well. Technology is good when it works but it usually take Harley 3-4 years to get it right.

  • @Mike-pt4cq
    @Mike-pt4cq 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm not a Harley guy, but definitely like your videos! Keep the good job. Cheers!

  • @rogerjolly1063
    @rogerjolly1063 Рік тому +3

    Remember the old redbook pricing guide? No dealer ever has ever paid more than the lowest price for any model on the guide.

  • @valis992000
    @valis992000 Рік тому +4

    If you don't have the modern electronics and brake/driver's aids you will absolutely notice a difference with a new bike. I finally broke down and bought an almost new bike with cornering ABS, linked brakes, various ride modes and built in navigation. It was well worth the upgrade.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      True I agree

    • @lipinskirl
      @lipinskirl 11 місяців тому

      I’d rather have something I can rebuild myself. My old FatBob brakes perfectly fine. Gotta phone clip and an App for navigation and it plays tunes to my helmet. Nothing else needed. Electronics fail… Have fun with it though, if it’s what you want and you got the cash.

    • @valis992000
      @valis992000 11 місяців тому +1

      @@lipinskirl Yeah, this is the first fully loaded with electronics bike I have had (a slightly used Pan America), time will tell how reliable it is, but being able to brake heavily in corners is really an impressive thing, about half of motorcycle fatalities are "drove to fast in to a corner" in origin, so it will be interesting if features like that lower deaths over time. I think when they studied motorcycle ABS in Europe it lowered accidents about 20%.

  • @andyedmond248
    @andyedmond248 Рік тому +2

    G'day Aymen, great advice that will hopefully keep some people out of a) financial trouble, or b) marital woes! The latter always seems to apply to me whenever I let the wife know that I'm thinking of buying another bike! After 20 years and countless bikes you would think she wouldn't even bat an eye lid if I mentioned the word bike. LOL. Just received my T/shirt and cap today (supporter gear), and I'm bloody impressed with the quality and comfort of the Tee. The hats pretty bloody good as well! Will certainly have to watch a few of your earlier video's as I am in the market for my first Harley in nearly 50 years of owning motorcyles. Promised myself one if and when I reach 65. So far so good! Have a fair idea of what I want out of the bike, so its only a matter of finding the right one at the right price. Thanks for the video brother, really appreciate the content and humour. Cheers mate.

  • @48grizzly
    @48grizzly 9 місяців тому +1

    75 yrs. old , 500,000 miles on Harleys , 8 of them to be exact , and have Never bought one from a dealership......

  • @johnconnors3883
    @johnconnors3883 Рік тому +2

    solid advice, keep at it, enjoying your content, thanks.

  • @markjones3888
    @markjones3888 Рік тому +2

    🎉thanks mate this one ranks up with your best

  • @user-tf2pt8lv9n
    @user-tf2pt8lv9n Рік тому +1

    Love your videos Man!
    Cheers from Texas!

  • @clairebelle8389
    @clairebelle8389 Рік тому +3

    Top advice and content 👌🌸

  • @user-pn8qq5fs2j
    @user-pn8qq5fs2j 11 місяців тому +1

    Sound advice and sensible.

  • @cphillips3513
    @cphillips3513 Рік тому +1

    Great vid. tnx :)

  • @tex9280
    @tex9280 Рік тому +4

    Keeping it real 💪💪💪
    Great episode yet again 👍
    Remember rule #1
    Do Not F🤪CKING Die ❗
    Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺

  • @dipack999
    @dipack999 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi Aymen I ride my 2019 softail slim I was thinking to upgrade for RKing but decided to do stage 1 . Bloody hell now it’s on steroids so this saved me going for an upgrade. Cheers mate from London uk 🇬🇧

  • @vongruff4732
    @vongruff4732 2 місяці тому

    Agree wholeheartedly with the regular oil changes as I do engine and clutch at 5k and 3 hole at 10K been doing that on all vehicles for 40 odd years. 72 and still ride at least 10k a year on my stage 2 05 FXD.

  • @grzegorzgrotkowski6575
    @grzegorzgrotkowski6575 Рік тому +3

    Great content! I totally agree with all that has been said here, but oooh, God knows how hard it is not going emotional with the new bike 😉. For the rates of insurance and why they are lower at the dealers it is most likely because of the bulk contract sales, the dealer sign the contract that he will sell not less than the certain number of insurance policies (based on the annual sales average) and get the special rate, and the insurer on the other side, has got the certain sales level secured which is good for business on both sides. For the advise I would only add - from my experience: 1 check the history of the used bike via one of the website services using motorcycle VIN number, 2 write yourself 6 priorities for your next bike made of 3 things you love your last bike for and 3 things you hate your last bike for - do not cheat yourself with your needs.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, sounds good te insurance. Great comment with good advice, thank you

  • @NickelStee1
    @NickelStee1 Рік тому +3

    Great tips, also cheers for recommending resurgence gear, I used your code and picked up new jacket and jeans. Great quality and fit very happy.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching. You will love the gear

    • @NickelStee1
      @NickelStee1 Рік тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club Yeah 💯 rode with it today, thank you.

  • @walterbrown9651
    @walterbrown9651 11 місяців тому +1

    I have a friend whose 2014?FXWG was down for like 7mos in 2021 because of the turn signal module. HD was not making them it seems and the bikes won't run without this module. He scored one on eBay. This newfound 10yr "obsolescence" by car and motorcycle companies is trash. I love my 79 FXE and Buell Thunderbolt!

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks I have heard a few stories like that

  • @michaeljoseph9881
    @michaeljoseph9881 Рік тому +2

    What unfortunate thing in the United States? They're cutting down and the EPA has been on Harley's butt because of the noise level whenever they like that so you're lucky that. You're where you're at did you can have. Load? Pipes.
    You can't get him inspected with uh not you. Know you? Gotta have stock. Pipes which. Stinks?

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      The EPA is going hard everywhere, I think Europe is getting the worst of it

  • @minecraftmum3436
    @minecraftmum3436 4 місяці тому +1

    My dad always insisted on changing the oil on his car every 6 months no matter how much he used it, he did the same for his bike

  • @michaeljoseph9881
    @michaeljoseph9881 Рік тому +3

    Yeah unfortunately I blew up my knee. I got a 2019 heritage that I love with the 114.
    But the the seat the rears bad so I'm looking at a trick at this point a new one cause. I don't know a lot of Harley's nowadays men when they have problems. They have big problems in cash the whole lot of money to have fixed even though I do have mechanical skills and everything like that. I don't have a programmer to reinstate the system once I get into it so hopefully answer some of my questions you know.
    It's nice to have a place where we can run loud place but up here you can't.

  • @jackbrewer5132
    @jackbrewer5132 8 місяців тому +1

    After owning so many different brands of motorcycles, what was your deciding factor in coming over to the Harley Davidson community? I've owned several Kawasaki z900's and I loved them but for me it was age,as I can't ride bent over on a crotch rocket anymore,and Harley Davidson is a comfortable ride with a bonus of a sleeper attitude. Love the sound and looks. Even though they are more expensive if you do the services they last forever. Awesome video and always look forward to your next.
    Jack in Missouri

  • @MightyMick88
    @MightyMick88 Рік тому +1

    Dude if your buying an extended warranty make sure it's from the manufacturer like HD or Honda, not from some unknown insurance company because you will get done over when the factory warranty expires.

  • @frankprettitore6192
    @frankprettitore6192 Рік тому +1

    Great Video I sold my 2010 toatally custom street glide that ran great because it had 32,000 miles and I panicked. Bought a c v o Road glide new in 2019 great bike but miss my old one n no payments. Dealer persuaded me into it. Older Bikes Rule.

  • @TheTruckerlyn
    @TheTruckerlyn Рік тому +1

    Great Chanel

  • @sweeabn6736
    @sweeabn6736 Рік тому +3

    For insurance, I am in the military and they have "go to" insurers USAA, and progressive, and they just do what they want. LoL. I have recently bought another bike and I bought this bike just like I did when I bought my first bike. When I bought it, I did not know of the MC world and all the opinions. I just went and got what I wanted. I sold my last bike in 2016, which was a soft tail delux. Last month, I bought a 2020 Iron 1200 and I LOVE the thing. Its comfortable as heck. Even more than the delux was. AND I have to get progressive insurance. LoL. :) I love your videos, it helped me get back in to riding again. Since then, I have ridden to and climbed Mt Rainier. LoL.

  • @bigxadventures3165
    @bigxadventures3165 Рік тому +2

    Currently looking around for a good 2nd hand, ah very 2nd hand, deal on a road king or a fatboy. There are some nice bikes around. Just have to travel a fair way to see most of them and prices seem all over the place. It's fun though.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      It is fun. I work backwards on price from new or from what's found at the dealers. Make adjustments for supply and demand.

  • @guyconnell2250
    @guyconnell2250 11 місяців тому

    I'm on my third Harley. It's a '15 with 37000 miles. I know, that's not very many, but, when I got it, I still had my '08, which I had highly modified in every way. I found myself preferentially riding that '08 instead of the "new" 2015. This went on for six years until, two years ago, I gave the '08 to my son. It now has 125000 miles on it. I did, over the years modify the '15 until I got it to where I like it. But now it's 8 years old. And yeah, it occurs to me to "upgrade". But, for what new bikes cost now, and knowing very well what if cost additionally to get a stock bike to how I like it, it's hard to consider a brand new bike an "upgrade". And I'm not getting any younger LOL. Alas, I suspect the '15 will be my last new bike and last bike ever.

  • @michaellejos8038
    @michaellejos8038 5 місяців тому

    I like tech, but not too much cause it’s a pain to diagnose when things goes south… I like maps but only on my always updated phone apps, because the preloaded ones for cars and bikes become obsolete after a while…plus I can have a few phone map apps at a time…😊

  • @leannemitchell5412
    @leannemitchell5412 Рік тому +2

    That's some good info come at a good time for me as i have been researching for another used bike, looking at what years to avoid and why due to electrical, fuel pump, clutch, brakes etc. issues. I have two models in mind and what years and price range is around the same. One model 2017 has the top fairing and digital screen, music, speakers' blah blah and wet weather saddlebags. The other is a 2007 which i really want only due to classic look more my style. Saddle bags are not weatherproof. I can go without the high tec stuff, which i do not generally use today on the bikes. It's the saddlebags that is holding me back. Km on both models average from 200 to 26000 and engine sizes are different ranging from 1847 down to 1600 both have 6 spd transmission. I prefer private sales over dealership sales, like you said many bikes come already upgraded. How important is the warranty from the dealership that you do not get from the private seller. And is it true that many dealerships do not like servicing or repairing bikes after 20 years old.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. Your questions cannot be answered in this short format because there are alot of extra details required. For me personally I have never bought an extended warranty for anything

  • @jamesvaughan3871
    @jamesvaughan3871 Рік тому +2

    The engine on my 21 limited blew a few weeks ago. Rather than wait 5 plus months for the warranty I traded and got a 23 limited with the stage 1 and the other upgrades I previously had on the old bike

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +3

      Yeah that's the way to do it! Unfortunately many people wouldn't be able to that (financially and fear wise) ...how did it blow?

    • @jamesvaughan3871
      @jamesvaughan3871 Рік тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club I had it in a stereo technician’s shop in May and he advised me that I had a primary leak. I cleaned the underside well and rode it for awhile, but I couldn’t find a leak. One morning my wife and I got up to take a small road trip. 5 miles after we left a check engine light came on so I immediately pulled over to check everything out. I found water in the oil. We immediately went to the dealership to have everything checked out.
      After they looked it over they said they found an internal primary seal that needed replaced. They ordered the parts and took 6 weeks to make the warranty repairs.
      We picked it up and I rode home approximately 8-10 kilometers.
      The following weekend we returned to the dealership for a charity poker run. When we were mounting for ksu I noticed a softball sized puddle of fluid. Knowing it was a warranty issue they actually loaned me a cvo to complete the run while they repaired it again.
      After we returned, they went to retrieve my bike. When they started it up it began leaking so massively that they couldn’t tell which fluid it was leaking. They determined that it was going to need a new block and estimated 5 months to replace it. I mildly complained that I was paying for a bike that I had purchased from them but was essentially bikeless for the entire riding season. My take was that the internal malfunctioning components caused the fluids to not circulate properly and caused the aluminum block to overheat and warp or fracture.
      I believe that Harley believes that they made a grave mechanical error and it was much of a warranty and customer service error. I also know that they know that the old bike and it’s expensive upgrades will give them a greater profit margin than any new factory sale. So I negotiated with them to install the Harley factory upgrades at cost to make it equal to the old one and to transfer the new stereo to the new bike. They reduced the price of the new one and gave me a very low interest rate so that I was able to get the newer version of the same bike for the same monthly cost to me.
      I’m sorry this was so long but I thought it was interesting and pertinent to this video. Have a great day and keep the rubber side down. ✌️

    • @garyrhode3755
      @garyrhode3755 Рік тому +1

      What happened to the engine on 2021 bike? Sounds worrisome

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      @@jamesvaughan3871 Sounds like it worked out ok in the end?

    • @jamesvaughan3871
      @jamesvaughan3871 Рік тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club I’m still a Harley fan so I’d say it worked out well for me

  • @thejerseyj5479
    @thejerseyj5479 Рік тому +2

    I'm a member of the "Buy high, Sell low" club. Because I am an idiot unlike my wife who would have the dealer paying her to take the bike.
    There's room for idiots in this world... Isn't there? 😮

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Thats not idiotic, there are plenty of reasons to buy a new bike.. for another video

  • @cmeyummy
    @cmeyummy Рік тому +3

    Hi Aymen and everyone else .
    Hope you all had a safe ride this weekend…

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Hayley, 2 awesome rides this weekend for me. What about you?

    • @cmeyummy
      @cmeyummy Рік тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club That’s great to hear.
      Only one ride for us yesterday. But 2 swims down at Mornington with my girls. We are hard core… Or crazy …
      Live a little is our moto…

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      @@cmeyummy lol that's hardcore

  • @pescadorbill
    @pescadorbill 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I'd like to know the year and model of the blue harley touring bike at the start of the video. Thanks

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  11 місяців тому +1

      The two blue ones at the start are 2023 fast Johnnie models

  • @ballaratevil6048
    @ballaratevil6048 Рік тому +2

    December 2022 almost bought a new Fat Boy but then I saw in Darwin bike shop a 2016 Fat Boy S 2016 just 1300 K's and it was what I wanted as if it was waiting just for Me so paid cash and they shipped it to Me in Adelaide ABC transport great company My one and only Harley and even Grand Mothers stop and comment on it and it had Vance and Hines big radius pipes smoked indicators and led tail light. A True Classic. This Bike is too good to be True got it for 27K as I like saving money so I always have heaps.

  • @Peter-wc4kr
    @Peter-wc4kr Рік тому +2

    Another approach. Sell your existing bike before you buy your next one. Sometimes dealers won’t want your bike because it’s the wrong type so they offer you next to nothing for it. There is a good chance a dealer will drop the price particularly on a 2nd hand bike if you don’t have a trade in. Also with a 2nd hand bike dealers will advertise it as a ride away price then tell you your up for government charges for transfer of registration. Some dealers will tell you in NSW they can’t legally transfer the registration into your name this is BS I have bought bikes from dealers who have transferred the title into my name with any cost covered in the purchase price. The old saying buyer beware.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому

      Thanks great advice. Always better if you can sell your own bike first

  • @Jonathan-L
    @Jonathan-L Рік тому +3

    Great story ... Amyen buy's a Kawasaki that's been used for something naughty, and the cops came after him Kwikazfuki :)

  • @elrumcajs777
    @elrumcajs777 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video! I fully identify with the old school tech and less gadgets giving less trouble.
    I’ll drop a question here if I may. It’s kinda potential number 8….
    I’ve always changed wheel bearings when they start making noise or when I notice something after checking them during a tire change.
    I am Colombian and live in Europe and not long ago I heard that most bikers here change them every 2nd ser of tires.
    How is it in NZ? Or wherever the rest of you guys are from. Are this guys paranoid or am I being too “tropical” about it?

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, you would have to seek the advice of your local mechanic based on bike, tyres, riding style, milage and other factors

    • @lipinskirl
      @lipinskirl 11 місяців тому

      Just like the oil, changing bearings more often is better than not. Bearings are cheap and easy to do yourself. If you have the time and the knowhow. I’m getting 20,000 miles out of a set of Commander II’s and changed my bearings on both sets of tires. The wheels were off so why not.

  • @ervinhepler1009
    @ervinhepler1009 Рік тому +2

    Just tell me how to get a tree with money falling out 😂

  • @carmelocruz391
    @carmelocruz391 Рік тому +1

    Great advice. What's that @dixxon called?

  • @richardlennards7823
    @richardlennards7823 Рік тому +1

    You can’t win on a purchase you have to minimise your collateral damage. Good luck

  • @thejerseyj5479
    @thejerseyj5479 Рік тому +2

    Great advice and well presented, as usual.
    Question, how do you spell your name. I have seen Amen, Aymen, Aimen and Frank. 😂
    A former Irish President was named Eamon DeValera. Is your name spelled like his was?

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Рік тому +1

      Aymen, pronounced like Eamon without the Irish accent. Thanks for watching

  • @michaeljoseph9881
    @michaeljoseph9881 Рік тому +2

    I don't know I don't ever like to buy use bikes because you inherit. Other headaches from other people that have powdered them and put them to bed wet.
    So if I buy another bike gonna be a new one so? It has a warranty on it so if it takes a dump. I can take it in and say fix it because the student expensive to have a motorcycle. You know let's use any government rebuilder or whatever no no thank you you spend more money rebuild in it than it's worth.
    Have a nice day.

  • @09591000
    @09591000 Рік тому +1

    Австралийцы нормальные пацаны. Интересно было послушать. Спасибо. Удачи!

  • @misfitsailor
    @misfitsailor Рік тому +1

    If your Harley runs hot, you are not riding an Evo!

  • @EdwinDearborn
    @EdwinDearborn 11 місяців тому +2

    Harley: half the performance for twice the price.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  11 місяців тому

      What do you ride?

    • @EdwinDearborn
      @EdwinDearborn 11 місяців тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club 2015 Honda Gold Wing F6B. 99% of the bikes I drive by, stranded on the road broken down, are Harleys.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  11 місяців тому

      @@EdwinDearborn lol, you are joking. 1. if there are more HD's on the road where you are there will be more breakdowns. Having said that I don't see any HD's by the side of the road. 2. My SG with just a cam would demolish any GW - you can see this clearly in many of my video's where i am up against sports bikes. I thought you would come back with "I ride a Ducati Panigale" or similar

    • @EdwinDearborn
      @EdwinDearborn 11 місяців тому +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club you’re smarmy response indicates your lack of the experience on America’s roads.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  11 місяців тому +1

      @@EdwinDearborn sensible and appropriate response to you comment. Of course I don't have experience on American roads I live in a different country

  • @davidfellows6250
    @davidfellows6250 Рік тому +2

    not to all of us are " bikes a luxury item" . Besides a company truck its been my only vehicle for the last 50 years and i don't live in the land with no snow. Harley is having trouble repoing thousands of bikes they made predator loans on. because it's easy to sell a dream but jesus christ 50k for a bike? what the hells wrong with ya'll.this is where "bikers" have changed the most. they are trying to get some kind of status from their shinny bike. it discuss me.

  • @wave6413
    @wave6413 Рік тому +3

    Emotionallll Dammmage……half of this report wasn’t even related to HD but life or purchases in general. Sold both my last two Honda’s to local dealers. Yeah they made money on me. But I had a price that was ok and they needed work. Win win so all good. Newest one was 2000 k away sight unseen but sold by a BMW dealer. Delivery as sold and expected $12k less than new absolutely no complaints. Even with 13.kilometers on the clock As you are still a pup I would note your advice is well versed.
    Dealer notes that he preferred finance as he makes more profit. I am perhaps a bit lucky as mine was cash. See previous comments for the reason why (wife).
    Money pits. Think BOAT - Bring Out Another Thousand. BIKE - Bring In Ka$hE. New gloves new helmet new jeans. New jacket (thanks for the promotion code)
    As a side - you did the m$b life line ride last year and about a thousand riders showed up for that event . I was intending to come down but 100mm of rain in central Queensland put that idea to bed. The idea of coming down is still on my mind. Your channel is growing (👍) and I think you could stage a pre ride event to piggyback on that event Round Up some strays before the event….? You could make that happen..?

  • @richpuller1348
    @richpuller1348 Рік тому +1

    The Fast Johnny gives me a chubby!