Inside Germany's Most Harmful Energy Source: Brown Coal Blues

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  • The Rhineland region of Germany has more CO2 pollution than any part of Europe due to its many coal mines. That's why climate activists organized the largest protest against coal production that Germany has ever seen.
    To find out why we are still using such harmful energy sources, VICE Germany spoke with coal workers, environmentalists, and residents about climate goals, power plant technology, and a future without coal. We see entire towns and vast forests that have been evacuated to mine coal. Watch as we search for the truth about Germany's energy policy.
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  • @shawnboucher546
    @shawnboucher546 8 років тому +233

    6:23 "It's just not fair that private people can restrict the freedom of others" a greater lack of self awareness is seldom expressed.

    • @paulhendrix8599
      @paulhendrix8599 8 років тому +1

      true.

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 8 років тому +22

      +Shawn Boucher Its just not fair that individuals can invade the private property of others either, especially when you are responsible for their safety.

    • @shawnboucher546
      @shawnboucher546 8 років тому +18

      Philip Jones right which is why the kid who gave us that quote is so unaware of himself. The group he was speaking for were private people trying to restrict the freedom of others namely the mine workers. So essentially he is saying that his group and their tactics are unfair. Technically the statement itself is incorrect because the people he was referring to were not "private" they were employees of the mine simply doing the job they were hired to do.

    • @csmith1996
      @csmith1996 8 років тому +2

      +Shawn Boucher he was talking about the private security that RWE hired to detain the activists

    • @shawnboucher546
      @shawnboucher546 8 років тому +1

      Calum Smith That is correct. Which I pointed out at the bottom of my second post. Which as I said makes them employees not private people. His statement would have been just as silly if the group that had detained the activist were an opposing group of activist. But at least then it would have been accurate. Of course what he meant was that these people were not employed by a government agency. Which is ridiculous as well as being oblivious.

  • @headinthekloud
    @headinthekloud 8 років тому +164

    Brown Coal Blues? Sounds like a fallout expansion pack

    • @dieszene
      @dieszene 7 років тому +2

      Somebody please fuck me Sounds like a nice music genre

  • @ownageDan
    @ownageDan 8 років тому +104

    that's what you get for getting out of nuclear energy so abruptly, without providing clean alternatives.

    • @o0ooo0
      @o0ooo0 8 років тому +1

      true most people just dont think about this

    • @Butt_Slayer
      @Butt_Slayer 8 років тому +9

      +ownageDan Exactly, it's not like Germany is going to suffer an earthquake and a tsunami at the same time like Japan. The reasoning for this decision doesn't make sense.

    • @redpunk
      @redpunk 8 років тому +4

      +davidme56
      The reactor in Japan did exactly what it was supposed to do. The probelm is that you can't flood a diesel engine with seawater and expect it to work and the Japanese believe in trying to make problems go away by ignoring them.
      Nuclear power is far safer than coal-fire power even considering the nuclear incidents. The only difference is that coal-fire has so many problems that people just kind of accept it as business as usual.

    • @konradblades93
      @konradblades93 4 роки тому +2

      @@Butt_Slayer Ukraine doesn't suffer from Earthquakes/Tsunami either.

    • @Butt_Slayer
      @Butt_Slayer 4 роки тому

      @@konradblades93 You're right. It doesn't.

  • @rr64zbr1
    @rr64zbr1 8 років тому +11

    When Germany decided unilaterally to shut down their nuclear power plants, they had to import a significant amount of (nuclear-made) electricity from France, as our systems are interconnected. Then, they extended massively their use of coal and now they thank us (France) by polluting the air of our north-eastern cities, which have been recently suffering from an important increase in pollution peaks.

    • @vince5862
      @vince5862 Рік тому

      Thank you 👍🏻 thats what most germans think

  • @tngchinghwa
    @tngchinghwa 8 років тому +49

    that treehouse is awesome af

    • @Alexander91
      @Alexander91 8 років тому +1

      +Tony Tng but he is generating heat using wood - coal would be better ;)

  • @NicholasRiviera
    @NicholasRiviera 8 років тому +13

    These pits are so gigantic, it's really scary. Once when I went hiking in the woods, I noticed a fence surrounding what looked like a lake. I walked closer and realized that the lake was infact a incredibly big pit, so big that my brain couldn't really realize its size and therefore thought its bottom was a reflection of the sky.

  • @sethcaplan859
    @sethcaplan859 8 років тому +6

    You did not mention that brown coal, also called lignite, is the lowest grade of coal and emits far more pollutants ( CO2, sulfur oxides, nitrates, lead, mercury..ect) then higher grade coals used in other nations. Nor how recent German energy policy, which was intended to be Eco-friendly (or at least to look that way) has actually increased Germany's dependence on Coal.

  • @happymachi
    @happymachi 8 років тому +59

    Cuz they shut down all their fission reactors

    • @daniel_danet
      @daniel_danet 8 років тому +5

      That's what I was thinking as well...

    • @Brandon_letsgo
      @Brandon_letsgo 4 роки тому +3

      that was criminal at best

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 3 роки тому +4

      @@Brandon_letsgo Criminal, no. Stupid? Yes.

    • @n.amosmoses
      @n.amosmoses 3 роки тому

      But did you notice every time they mentioned particle pollution that they kept showing images of steam leaving the clean nuclear cooling towers? Stupid I agree

    • @RAYNINGMAKER
      @RAYNINGMAKER 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah. It was dumb. Nuclear was a less horrible option than coal. It aint clean in the long run, but it's one hell of a lot cleaner than coal...

  • @Murphy82nd
    @Murphy82nd 8 років тому +78

    "It's just not fair that private people can restrict the freedom of others."
    You're not on public property...

  • @lejonetnord
    @lejonetnord 8 років тому +55

    I like the grey filter used throughout the video lmao.

  • @idaatechongas
    @idaatechongas 8 років тому +81

    Even the fucking coal miners in Germany are passionate about their careers...

    • @michaelcrawford310
      @michaelcrawford310 8 років тому +23

      +Conrad Lindenberg
      1. Full health care and retirement for all workers.
      2.Government mandated 4 weeks PTO day one of career.
      3. Average work week = 35 hours.
      4. This is an open mine pit not a hole in the ground.

    • @LilView
      @LilView 8 років тому

      +Michael Crawford yeah fuck the US

    • @dunkaDObal
      @dunkaDObal 8 років тому

      +Ghost up your ass

    • @burtan2000
      @burtan2000 8 років тому

      +Ghost +Michael Crawford Why say you that? I' am loving the US of A. We too have large holes in ground, AND open pit mines. (Which can be big holes int he ground... just saying +Michael Crawford)
      We do mountain top removal mining or Strip Mining. That entails removing overburden from coal deposits.

    • @burtan2000
      @burtan2000 8 років тому

      +Conrad Lindenberg Perhaps that's why they're successful.

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 8 років тому +8

    Old dude on the train has it correct "The forest is already dead, they have been pumping out the ground water for two years..."

  • @Flagen579
    @Flagen579 8 років тому +24

    Yeah, our Brown Coal stuff is really quite shitty. I live in that area and have to say it really does not smell nice, although a lot of that is also coming from cars of all the people that commute to the big cities in this area.

  • @zf80db
    @zf80db 8 років тому +6

    i worked a few years for the german Ruhrkohle AG. They only have 1 mine in germany left, but the power plants still need the same amount of coal to run. Now they import tons of coal from south america. The coal is cheaper but has worse quality. Accidents in those mines happen almost daily and the people dont get much money for their work. I dont think this is a better solution...

  • @drewdowns7128
    @drewdowns7128 8 років тому +44

    that treehouse!!!

  • @tonyhawk35
    @tonyhawk35 8 років тому +27

    but when they have no power they will point fingers somewhere else

    • @romella_karmey
      @romella_karmey 5 років тому +2

      Haha typical hypocrite environmental activists..

  • @notpulverman9660
    @notpulverman9660 8 років тому +33

    >be germany
    >reject nuclear power
    >reject fossil fuels
    >depend on sunny days for energy

    • @tomac8551
      @tomac8551 4 роки тому +5

      And have the highest energy prices in the world

    • @zachdancy5828
      @zachdancy5828 3 роки тому

      Talk stupid... You are forgetting wind power and Battery Storage for rainy days! You will see in 20 years that they chose Intelligently.

    • @tomac8551
      @tomac8551 3 роки тому

      @@zachdancy5828 What battery storage ?

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 3 роки тому

      @@tomac8551 You know, the battery storage that would take them from 35 eurocents per kilowatt hour to 100 eurocents per kilowatt hour.

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 3 роки тому

      @@zachdancy5828 or you know use nuclear, not create enormous pollution from mining for the materials for the batteries or the coal

  • @calluml314
    @calluml314 8 років тому +74

    That was a nice treehouse.

  • @atex4754
    @atex4754 8 років тому +4

    Man, i wish the world can just be simpler. Where people stopped arguing about their views in the comment sections, and just went out and did something good for the world.

  • @slaphappysmokey1
    @slaphappysmokey1 Рік тому +2

    I would love to see an update on this story.

  • @INSOMNIUMCRYPTION
    @INSOMNIUMCRYPTION 8 років тому +15

    This was some good shit, it's been a while since something really watchable came up in here. You can do it bros! Cheers from Finland.

  • @test_man_music
    @test_man_music 8 років тому +22

    Shutter your nuclear fleet and go back to stone-age energy technologies to compensate the gap in supply.
    Wunderbare Idee. 10/10

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 3 роки тому

      Wir sind Wunderkinden! Warum so kalt dem Winter ist?

    • @Anas-ux9vi
      @Anas-ux9vi 3 роки тому

      What?

  • @dwb3150
    @dwb3150 4 роки тому +10

    The irony of the protestors singing “power to the people”.

    • @RAYNINGMAKER
      @RAYNINGMAKER 3 роки тому +2

      The problem here is that you can not draw a clear line. Both sides are right. Those who work in coal are correct in believing that coal is a reliable source of energy which we in Germany currently rely on to keep our energy grid stable. The activists are right in believing that the inaction of companies like RWE and the executives desire to make money over the wellbeing of the country will cost lives. Not just far away as in places like Tuvalu where an entire nation is currently preparing to abandon post because the land they live on is sinking into the sea, but here too.
      Germany has become so dry in places that for two years straight (I believe 16/17, but don't quote me on that) we had a negative net grain production. In other places entire communities have been buried under landslides after heavy rain. I grew up in a rural area and some of the farmers sons were constantly complaining about how bad the weather was getting and how unprofitable the industry is becoming. Power to the people is an accurate statement. The "people" in this case just implicitly excludes those who work the coal mines. Greater good and all that.

  • @Stadtpark90
    @Stadtpark90 8 років тому +16

    not enough reporting on those machines and power plants; I like the miners enthusiasm and the plain honesty of the older folks speaking from their own experience. Having idealistic youth activists talk about their favourite ambition of how to best save the world just doesn't work for me... - in order to be taken seriously they need a more communicative and less offensive approach. The question wether (- or rather: why not) they have started talking to the miners was the most relevant part of the whole piece: people need to start talking with each other - that is the only way to go...

  • @krookimuss
    @krookimuss 8 років тому +11

    0:23 Is that... BAGGER288, BAGGER288!?

  • @redlinerer
    @redlinerer 8 років тому +4

    the problem is we use too much power, not where it comes from. stop buying your kids iphones and tablets and toys that use batteries and go play outside, walk or bike to work, choose to only have 1 or 2 children etc. i always find it so ironic that people protest something like this and then go home and use the same electricity they are protesting to go about their normal life. as the one miner stated "until we are in a position that we have extra energy, we must keep using coal/oil for energy" in this case, these activists should be trying to convince the general public to use less electricity rather than stop the company from producing it. the only way to stop fossil fuels is to eliminate the need for them.

    • @pooppoop7021
      @pooppoop7021 8 років тому

      Sorry grandpa, I didn't mean to have life progress under your watch.
      Did they have dinosaurs when you were a kid?

  • @CarlosBeo
    @CarlosBeo 8 років тому +12

    Earth will be fine. We are fucked.

    • @SneakyPeaky404
      @SneakyPeaky404 8 років тому +1

      +CarlosBeo George Carlin, I assume?

    • @CarlosBeo
      @CarlosBeo 8 років тому +1

      Hans Dampf
      Not intentionally, but I love his work. Sure does sound like something he would say. :)

  • @Jaz_zo
    @Jaz_zo 8 років тому +54

    People are just jealous Germany will have the biggest swimbath when the mine gets closed

    • @postillion8951
      @postillion8951 8 років тому +2

      When the coal is dug up the holes and the landscape will be rehabilitated back to a forest and the biggest holes will get turned into lakes and this system is in effect for over 60years. I know that because I live next to a forest where 50years ago coal was mined and I can tell you nobody would suspect that this forest werent there for centuries

    • @LostPrty
      @LostPrty 8 років тому +1

      its funny, because im coming from an ex coal mine area and they transformed it into a nice lake in the 70ies and it kinda saved our town and now they extended the lakes etc. and it is actually quite nice :)

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 7 років тому

      What about North Antelope Rochelle or Black Thunder?

    • @hikennotheo1568
      @hikennotheo1568 7 років тому

      is there any fish in it ?

    • @LostPrty
      @LostPrty 7 років тому +1

      Theo Delaye in our lake there are fishes, but they are harmless (but you can fish if you have a permit)

  • @ethanlyons5741
    @ethanlyons5741 8 років тому +20

    Respect to the coal miner for taking such pride in his work, even if it's environmentally damaging His work ethic is something we can all appreciate.

    • @justinvanmarrum3285
      @justinvanmarrum3285 8 років тому +3

      +kalimul
      What a pathetic comparison.

    • @chestermanifold9023
      @chestermanifold9023 5 років тому

      Juan Trippe, what? How was that pathetic?

    • @Abcflc
      @Abcflc 2 роки тому

      what a ridiculous comments- who cares if he's proud? his little brain can't comprehend that he is part of our collective destruction or he just cares about his paycheck.

  • @StraightEdgeXVegan
    @StraightEdgeXVegan 8 років тому +48

    The comment section is toxic, as always.

  • @zipper978
    @zipper978 8 років тому +16

    Vice used to do interesting documentaries now it's a propaganda machine.

    • @JustNatax3
      @JustNatax3 8 років тому

      +ZIPPER978 Tell me about what "propaganda" please, and define the word with your words please. ;)

    • @VoloxTV
      @VoloxTV 8 років тому +1

      +ZIPPER978 this isn't propaganda. it shows both sides of the coin, as far as their are some

    • @tgl1399
      @tgl1399 8 років тому

      +Volox TV Yes it showed both sides but they try to force an opinion by overevaluating the contra side. #fucktheleft

    • @VoloxTV
      @VoloxTV 8 років тому

      THE عاهرة but come on, what more pro sides can there be in that industry except:
      -Creates Jobs
      -"Clean" coal energy production compared to other countries
      I mean not every issue is balanced. For example, cutting down the rainforest also has pros and cons, however, there wont be an equal amount of them. Same here.

    • @zipper978
      @zipper978 8 років тому

      +Volox TV if you pay attention to vices videos it's obvious which side they lean to

  • @1337Shockwav3
    @1337Shockwav3 8 років тому +2

    I feel sorry for the person working in the quarry saying they have the cleanest plants in the world ... the new plant they have there might be one of the best, while Frimmersdorf (which is still running to this day) is the 2nd most inefficient/most pestering in whole europe. Greetings from a relative of someone who held a high position at said power plant and someone who did his school internship in 7th grade at said powerplant. Other stuff he said make quite a bit of sense tho, so he seems to have some awareness - and yes "RWE is my family" is something you wouldn't rarely hear amongst people working there.

  • @Aberusugi
    @Aberusugi 8 років тому +17

    Germany wouldn't have had to ramp up their coal usage if they didn't reactionarily close down their nuclear power plants. Anti-nuclear sentiments caused them to increase their pollution.

    • @TheKonstl95
      @TheKonstl95 8 років тому +4

      +Aberusugi i think the answer isnt that easy, i don't know if there is any way to compare the impact of the nuclear waste to the pulltion caused by brown coal, either way, in the long term we have to get rid of both methods!

    • @tibbygaycat
      @tibbygaycat 8 років тому +4

      +rottenbunnycorpse LP Nuclear waste can just be stored in a single location for a long while. With coal, you are exposed to far more radiation due to radioactive byproducts in the smog. People are exposed to much more radiation living by a coal plant than by a nuclear power plant.
      It's a tradeoff. You need a backup source of power for when the sun doesn't shine or wind doesn't blow. Nuclear is the best for that.

    • @Aberusugi
      @Aberusugi 8 років тому +4

      The point is, they had functioning nuclear plants already and a way of disposing of the waste now. They could have replaced the nuclear plants with renewables or kept the plants running. Instead, caving to anti-nuke pressures, they got rid of the nuclear power plants and installed much more corporate-friendly coal power plants that destroy the planet at a much greater rate.

    • @TBFSJjunior
      @TBFSJjunior 5 років тому

      +Aberusugi
      "a way of disposing of the waste"
      No there is no solid plan in Germany on how to dispose the waste yet.
      "rid of the nuclear power plants and installed much more corporate-friendly coal power plants"
      This is incorrect. Germany still has part of it nuclear power plants, and those shut down were not replaced with new coal power plants.
      The last brown coal power plant in Germany was build 2004. (The newest black coal power plant was guild from 2007-2015, so started before Germany got rid of nuclear)
      There are a hand full of coal power plants being build or in planing stage right now in Germany and all of them have budgeting problems and will most likely never be finished.
      "nuclear... renewable"
      One of the biggest issues is, that nuclear and renewables don't work together very well.
      Nuclear isn't flexible. If you shut down a power plant, it needs days to weeks to start again. It is good for base load, but not for regulation load. The best way to run a nuclear power plant is, to let it run full steam (or at least 80-100%) more or les non stop. This works really badly in combination with renewables, as they need very flexible power plants (like water, gas), as they are not flexible themself.

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 3 роки тому +1

      @@TBFSJjunior so nuclears problem is that it doesn’t fit well with an unreliable power source

  • @softmechanics3130
    @softmechanics3130 2 роки тому +2

    Burning brown coal and building nuclear reactors is trillion times better than being forced to learn Russian which I found almost impossible to learn

  • @robertdevries1049
    @robertdevries1049 8 років тому +3

    Complicated issue, I don't know enough about it, but that was pretty impressive action taken by the environmentalist.

  • @oscartaya324
    @oscartaya324 8 років тому +2

    Well they shouldn´t just had prohibited the use of nuclear power wich is co2 free
    if they don't want coal. With no nuclear power they had to increase the use of coal as an energy source.

  • @joelchils
    @joelchils 8 років тому +5

    That's a bad ass tree house tho

  • @Valivali94
    @Valivali94 8 років тому +15

    I love how most of these protesters have no real alternative plans, and complain of a lack of plans by the people they try to block. Stop complaining and go help find a solution, maybe become a researcher. All they are doing is running around in the dirt adn on the streets singing.
    Also, the guys at the railroads, you dont HAVE to take hours to cut them loose. Anything strong enough to cut off an arm should suffice.

    • @sem3479
      @sem3479 8 років тому

      +Valivali94 atleast there trying something to stop stop it

    • @Valivali94
      @Valivali94 8 років тому +2

      Bonte Gamer But "stop it" is not how you will solve this problem. Making the technology obsolete by technical advancement is the way to go. Not trying to block a machine for a few minutes. I bet you, 90% of these protesters are just adrenaline junkies.

    • @donbirra32
      @donbirra32 8 років тому

      +Valivali94 And you're better, sitting in front of your computer, not doing anything?

    • @Valivali94
      @Valivali94 8 років тому

      donbirra32 How do you want to know that i dont do anything?

  • @rolfkrajewski4975
    @rolfkrajewski4975 3 роки тому +2

    I was born in the Rhineland but now live in Alberta Canada where we currently face a similar issue, Australian coal companies want to come in and build coal mines on the eastern slopes of the rocky mountains, there is pretty stiff opposition to it and hopefully this wont go through. Mankind needs to rid itself of its need for coal, we are destroying our planet and we will pay for it in the end

  • @ipod1978
    @ipod1978 8 років тому +10

    Very good report

    • @spp2000
      @spp2000 8 років тому +1

      +Junior J The reporter looks like Cara Delevingne

    • @ipod1978
      @ipod1978 8 років тому

      +Poorna Prithvi Yeah she does a bit lol

  • @nichtverfuegbaralter
    @nichtverfuegbaralter 8 років тому +12

    Dat treehouse man. Nice build imao.

  • @cobra60six
    @cobra60six 8 років тому +11

    This is a documentary about mindless people drinking their own cool aide

  • @arconte2100
    @arconte2100 8 років тому +2

    The coal miner is 100% correct. Until we have technological means to storing energy we need power sources that run reliably such as coal, hydro and nuclear power.

  • @KillaKaliTheItalist
    @KillaKaliTheItalist 8 років тому +2

    daym those RWE employees are LOYAL ... never anything bad towards RWE

  • @PraetorianOpti
    @PraetorianOpti 8 років тому +14

    6:24 is this guy serious you can't have freedom of assembly in someone else's company.

    • @lupus7297
      @lupus7297 8 років тому

      +ZedSausage10 yeah you can

    • @romella_karmey
      @romella_karmey 5 років тому

      Freedom their ass. 1st world people are so entitled. Spoiled ass bitches.

  • @raze83
    @raze83 8 років тому +4

    "Ah, fuck it. Yes! That's your answer! That's your answer to everything! Tattoo it on your forehead! Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski! Condolences! The bums lost! My advice is, do what your parents did! Get a job, sir! The bums will always lose, do you hear me, Lebowski? THE BUMS WILL ALWAYS LOSE!"

  •  8 років тому +4

    USA and China should reduce their CO2 pollution in first place. EU is the lesser polluter then both and we restrain ourself even on behalf economic growth the most. Where is logic in that?

  • @antoinedoinell
    @antoinedoinell 8 років тому +34

    that's a bad ass mining machine...

    • @democracycat2513
      @democracycat2513 8 років тому +4

      yeah, imagine cannons & machine guns were attached to that machine

    • @PrasetyoMuhammadDwiBiology
      @PrasetyoMuhammadDwiBiology 8 років тому

      +Tom Dawn or ghost rider :D

    • @quorkquork
      @quorkquork 8 років тому

      +Danimal Jr. It's poor at mining asses indeed

    • @MrBroken030
      @MrBroken030 8 років тому +2

      +Danimal Jr. its no mining machine, its a fuckin transformer!

  • @dorjedriftwood2731
    @dorjedriftwood2731 8 років тому +4

    Everyone's complaining about the activist. Social activism is a vital part of democracy yes an engineer might effect the situation more directly but the whole peice centered around the activists raising awareness of the issue which is their role in the social ecosystem in which we all have very different roles to play. Yes we need engineers we need activists to diversity is what makes an ecosystem flourish.

  • @bobjones3074
    @bobjones3074 8 років тому +12

    Imagine if all those protestors all went to school for Engineering etc and actually helped create the renewable sources of energy.

    • @sieyes9356
      @sieyes9356 7 років тому +5

      As an energy engineer, I can tell you that we have quite a lot of clean technology and very little political will to use it. What is more, we waste a stupendous amount of power.

    • @inigograu1628
      @inigograu1628 4 роки тому

      It's not a lack of engineers that's the problem. It's a lack of political will to let them do their work.

  • @Hoagytwo
    @Hoagytwo 8 років тому +1

    Daniel the protestor said that “One group was apprehended almost entirely by private security. It’s just not fair that private people can restrict the freedom of others.”
    Weren’t the protestors doing the same thing by restricting the freedom of company and its workers to mine coal?

  • @EagleSmoke44
    @EagleSmoke44 8 років тому

    4:27 that is the greatest slow chopper illusion I have ever seen probably best in the world.

  • @Rag0
    @Rag0 8 років тому +47

    Dude is wearing nail polish ....i have nothing to add.

  • @troxigg
    @troxigg 8 років тому +4

    Sonne was filmed here

  • @neinauchnein5358
    @neinauchnein5358 8 років тому +1

    i think the main problem is that in germany they passed a bill that the atomic plants had to be shut down. but germany is not japan the risk of an earthquake is very low. the reactors are shut down but germany still needs the same amount of energy and the green energy technologie is not producing enough. thats why they are using coal. in my oppinion they should have kept going with the nuclear plans until they had a green resultion. that would have been better for the enviroment

  • @Murphy82nd
    @Murphy82nd 8 років тому +2

    But how do they propose to reduce the use of electricity? Who is developing that technology? Raising awareness is important, but how about actually working towards a solution? As I grow older I become a cynic, and mainly because I've learned that there's a world of difference between people saying they will do something and them actually doing something.

    • @jonesnj07
      @jonesnj07 8 років тому +1

      +Murphy82nd they got rid of all the nuclear power plants after what happened in Japan, which led to a massive power shortage with no real alternative they had to go back to coal, it was a complete libtard shit show, it's not like germany will ever have an earth quake or a tsunami.

  • @matthewcurran1261
    @matthewcurran1261 8 років тому +6

    Seriously wonder how energy efficient that wood burning stove in the tree-hut is? That Coal station supplies energy to thousands. A poorly insulated house like that could well use more energy per person, and emit more emissions per person, even though it uses wood. I'm not for coal power stations at all but like others in the comments think innovation and breaking them funding politicians is the solution not occupying a tree.

    • @Anno1886HardturmLove
      @Anno1886HardturmLove 3 роки тому +2

      Heating with wood is CO2-neutral bro... Education helps

    • @jillianangell2570
      @jillianangell2570 3 роки тому

      @@Anno1886HardturmLove it's not. You have to use energy to produce wood

    • @mr.tophat4643
      @mr.tophat4643 2 роки тому

      @@jillianangell2570 but it is still co2 neutral

  • @user-bm4di5ns4g
    @user-bm4di5ns4g 8 років тому +11

    7:23 "People just like telling scary stories."
    Telling scary stories, interpreting scientific data, whatever you wanna call it, your single instance of empirical evidence doesn't refute objective and verifiable truths.

    • @vagnar1988
      @vagnar1988 8 років тому

      +vitalis flows Also his argument was quite foolish too, "My mom lived for 80 years in front of a power plant and she's fine" Well, my grandpa smoked for 60 years and is also fine, so free cigarettes for everyone!

    • @user-bm4di5ns4g
      @user-bm4di5ns4g 8 років тому

      vagnar1988 My grandfather was an alcoholic for thirty years and lived to be 97. Everyone, grab a bottle!!

  • @Polyushka
    @Polyushka 8 років тому +3

    Am I the only one who wants to live in an abandoned village some of those houses look pretty nice. I would live like a Scooby Doo villain.

  • @Airex001
    @Airex001 8 років тому +1

    damn i love the Music in the Background! anyone know how ist called ?

  • @thomasfoster7842
    @thomasfoster7842 8 років тому +3

    If all of these activists became scientists and chemists, could they solve the energy crisis? Maybe.

    • @thomasfoster7842
      @thomasfoster7842 8 років тому

      ***** Yeah true that. God forbid that solving a problem might involve real hard work!

  • @danparmenter525
    @danparmenter525 8 років тому +3

    Not very clever activists, these mine-invaders.
    Would prefer it if they all set up a solar-farming enterprise in the Sahara, really.
    The new houses aren't nearly as nicely made as the old ones.
    Honestly, the problem is that we're using steam power and then piping it along using a copper electrical grid. Industrial infrastructure is 1890s stuff, really.

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 3 роки тому

      As opposed to what? Zero point energy field generators, and Entanglement Power Trap transmitters?

  • @elfboi523
    @elfboi523 8 років тому +1

    I live in Cologne (Köln), which is the biggest city in the Rhineland. And this shit needs to stop. Diese Scheiße muß aufhören.

    • @thewoggler4981
      @thewoggler4981 8 років тому +1

      +elfboi523 aber sowas von. als Kölner kann ich dir da nur beipflichten

  • @danielsoule3737
    @danielsoule3737 3 роки тому +1

    “It’s not fair that people can hire people to protect the property that they OWN”

  • @45moonprince
    @45moonprince 8 років тому +3

    Am i tweaking off dis ganja? Or is that helicopters propellers spinning super slow

  • @andrescastellanos3322
    @andrescastellanos3322 8 років тому +3

    Why did Germany shut down their nuclear power plants? Are they waiting for Fusion energy and decided that the reinvestment of building new plants was too expensive for the time interval?

    • @justinvanmarrum3285
      @justinvanmarrum3285 8 років тому +1

      +Andres Castellanos
      No, it was all the populist irrational hatred for nuclear power after Fukushima.

    • @andrescastellanos3322
      @andrescastellanos3322 8 років тому +3

      J.V. Marrum I hate that mentality. Coal is more dangerous than nuclear. As long as nuclear is properly managed, everything is fine

    • @Minecraftor
      @Minecraftor 8 років тому

      +Andres Castellanos People make mistakes. And one mistake can ruin the entire region.

    • @umgssda4730
      @umgssda4730 8 років тому +1

      +Andres Castellanos Germany is in the process of shutting down its nuclear power plants. That started in the early 2000s and was, and still is, scheduled to be complete in the early 2020s. Many people believe the risks and costs for the public to be too high. Also to this date the disposal of nuclear waste from power plants is undecided. To replace nuclear power a huge boost to renewables was introduced .

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 3 роки тому

      To make fusion possible to commercialize would require some mechanism to convert neutron emissions into an electromagnetic field. Give it another 400 years and we might figure it out.

  • @SinisterCity
    @SinisterCity 6 років тому

    9:28 looked like a perfect map for a military video gam lol

  • @tDASH97
    @tDASH97 2 роки тому

    it's scary to see what happend this july in this area and then to watch this video from 5 years ago

  • @ThunfischXXx
    @ThunfischXXx 8 років тому +3

    hä er sagt private leute sollen keine freiheitsberaubung machen während er landfriedensbruch begeht.

  • @bradbeckett
    @bradbeckett Рік тому +3

    This didn't age well.

  • @theworldeatswithyou
    @theworldeatswithyou 8 років тому +2

    Didn't even know we had something like that, we only ever hear about nuclear power plants.

    • @TwoFistsOneHalleluja
      @TwoFistsOneHalleluja 8 років тому +1

      +Karlo Schallibaum Frau Merkel closed them and now Germany is polluting way more.

  • @xRawlins
    @xRawlins 8 років тому

    Oh shit @ 9:00 - Is that the town Top Gear used in their custom ambulance episode?

  • @That_ez
    @That_ez 8 років тому +3

    wow Christine the most attractive vice reporter i've seen, daymmm!!!

    • @giallorenzo1
      @giallorenzo1 7 років тому

      You can say it out loud! What's her full name?

  • @brotalnia
    @brotalnia 8 років тому +19

    There has been an alternative to coal for a long time, but people keep fearmongering about it. Nuclear power can satisfy all of our energy needs and no village or forest will need to be destroyed ever again.

    • @snor20
      @snor20 8 років тому +6

      +brotalnia where does the radioactive trash go tho ?

    • @DanM012324
      @DanM012324 8 років тому +1

      +Aysam MF the vast majority of it can be recycled and the really toxic stuff ~3% is stored in big concrete containers until we figure out a way to deal with it.

    • @HardyWiz
      @HardyWiz 8 років тому +8

      +Daniel May "until we figure out a way to deal with it" I lol'd

    • @johnstar220
      @johnstar220 8 років тому +2

      +HardyWiz we have a way its spelt with the letters T I M E its not like there so much of it it will be everywhere we can just store it in a small contained area where it cant harm us unlike the emissions of conventional fuels which cant be contained

    • @HardyWiz
      @HardyWiz 8 років тому

      John Star You do realize that some of the radioactive isotopes produced in radioactive waste have half lives in the span of millions of years? You're prepared to wait that long?

  • @mumbimkandawire7523
    @mumbimkandawire7523 7 років тому

    @Vice - Could you please share the soundtrack from 0:26 - 0:56, please.

  • @lucusinfabula
    @lucusinfabula 7 років тому +1

    Brown coal has been used as a soil ammendant; not all of it is great as such but most of it is a slow release carbon source and good for clay soils.

  • @nerdommeetsboy
    @nerdommeetsboy 8 років тому +3

    Cute German activists though

    • @ChristAcolyte
      @ChristAcolyte 8 років тому

      If cute now means a smelly, dirty, hippie then yes, It's very cute.

    • @nerdommeetsboy
      @nerdommeetsboy 8 років тому +2

      TheBrutalSledgehammer Love a good smelly dirty hippie

    • @ChristAcolyte
      @ChristAcolyte 8 років тому

      Dreadlocks and weed really turn me on too.

  • @coreyhester1232
    @coreyhester1232 8 років тому +3

    Damn she is cute!

  • @operationpravda6480
    @operationpravda6480 8 років тому +1

    That huge mining machine is awesome.

  • @joshm5499
    @joshm5499 8 років тому

    Who made the music at 27 seconds in?

  • @shitcontentchannel4618
    @shitcontentchannel4618 8 років тому +9

    why are you shaming germany when the USA is fracking?

    • @paulhendrix8599
      @paulhendrix8599 8 років тому

      are they defending fracking?

    • @shitcontentchannel4618
      @shitcontentchannel4618 8 років тому

      no but its pretty hypocritical of them as americans to talk about how bad other countrys are on the enviroment well their country is fracking

    • @sommermant
      @sommermant 8 років тому

      +paul jefferson because they're journalists who do WORLDWIDE JOURNALISM

    • @shitcontentchannel4618
      @shitcontentchannel4618 8 років тому

      why do they never shame their home country then?

    • @shitcontentchannel4618
      @shitcontentchannel4618 8 років тому

      its one sided content and you know it

  • @jamesatherton1853
    @jamesatherton1853 8 років тому +4

    Germanistan

    • @smartlp3010
      @smartlp3010 8 років тому

      +James Atherton Really? You didnt had a more stupid comment in Hand?

    • @jamesatherton1853
      @jamesatherton1853 8 років тому

      Smart LP Nope, this was the most retarded thing I could think of at the time

    • @smartlp3010
      @smartlp3010 8 років тому

      James Atherton Hard to belive.

    • @jamesatherton1853
      @jamesatherton1853 8 років тому

      Smart LP I could have just said 'your mum is'

    • @smartlp3010
      @smartlp3010 8 років тому

      James Atherton still less stupid then your first Statement.

  • @markvolker1145
    @markvolker1145 6 років тому

    Anyone else noticing that whenever Pravda, I mean Vice (Hammer & Sickle), mentions pollution, they show steam rising up from cooling towers, knowing that most people won't know that it is only water

  • @Xolition
    @Xolition 8 років тому +1

    Thank you for not dubbing

  • @jeanlabrek8454
    @jeanlabrek8454 4 роки тому

    Coal plants can be clean when using silica sand-limestone fluidised bed or Pyrolitic gasification-flox like in the Valmet modern plants

  • @pertechnetyl
    @pertechnetyl 4 роки тому

    Any future related to coals doesn't need to look like this. People forget that materials like coal, or oil, are not just simply, or EXCLUSIVELY, FUELS.... Lots of medicines and other chemicals are actually made from these sources and this is one of the directions where coal usage should go. Let's, however, assume, that medicines and chemicals manufacturing also bears some "environmental cracks". And here goes another story, that is: using coals as a source of ... critical elements. Coals, due to their high concentration of organic moieties, are well-known for chelating (concentrating) many precious elements. While in the brown coal case this is largely about arsenic, coals, in general, may bear (and often do) large potentially extractable amounts of such rarities as germanium, gallium, rare earth elements, and platinum-group elements. There are literally thousands of papers regarding this phenomenon. And classical sources of these elements will soon fade.... Thus, instead of closing mines (I am not talking about land destruction here - this is an obvious threat), one can rather go towards CHANGING their profile.... There is no that need in just burning these otherwise precious materials... Also, there are methods of non-dusty methods of coal exploitation (see coal gasification or methanation). Finally, as is in the science as a whole: the nature dislikes a 0-1 character... Don't get me wrong here: I am absolutely against land usage for coal being prior to any human-living activities. But... there is even more in the topic: wild (spontaneous) coal fires... Not just in mining heaps. A vast area in northern China has probably the largest amount of such incidents, and spontaneous coal fires may last for (though not being fully constant, obviously) as much as 2500 years (yes, it is 2500 - and it concerns a "nearby" area in central Tajikistan). The N China area(s) (Urumqi area and Wuhai area included) may be jointly responsible for ~1% GLOBAL CO2 emissions (yes, there are scientific papers reporting such informations). Vast coastal area in N Canada is also on fire (see Smoking Hills). Compared to that, emissions from power-station chimneys are ultra-minute (much, much more is emitted from household sources, and the related reseach is easily to be found even here on UA-cam; also: cars are just tinny grasshoppers by such household emissions, when we chat about smog etc.).

  • @rustykrys888
    @rustykrys888 8 років тому

    No. The hydroelectric stations in Manitoba are the cleanest. No coal, no burning, just pure energy production.

  • @walhodenfresser
    @walhodenfresser 8 років тому

    Some people don't seem to get that it is just not possible to power everything with sun and wind energy. We can't store all the power that is produced while the sun is out and the wind is blowing. So during calm nights we need other means of producing electricity. Nuclear energy is not an option in Germany so we have to use fossile fuels. Only a big decrease in energy consumption and much better storing technologies could change something.

  • @anvarichn
    @anvarichn 2 роки тому

    I wonder if those who defend coal extraction for economical reasons are able to make calculations on both economical and human losts due to climate changes. It's not only hot temperatures as some might think. It is high fluctuatations of temperatures and amount of rain - those are all caused by too much CO2 in air.

  • @wegdermitte1210
    @wegdermitte1210 8 років тому +1

    Just for once I would like to see an interesting documentary by vice about Germany.

  • @whitej96
    @whitej96 8 років тому +1

    60% of the UK's electrical power is produced from gas and coal, each accounting for 30%. I still think Germany is Europe's leader in the production of renewable energy and efficient machinery.

  • @9and10
    @9and10 8 років тому

    Die Reportage ansich ist so wie ich sie von Vice eben erwartet habe..... Aber freut mich, dass sie jemanden gefunden haben, der sauberes englisch spricht und als Reporterin gute Arbeit macht. Bitte öfter Filippa verwenden.

  • @sporttrolling837
    @sporttrolling837 8 років тому +2

    That co2 needs to be vented into giant green houses to speed the growth and size of produce!!!

    • @BinaryBunyip
      @BinaryBunyip 8 років тому +1

      +Richard Lafreniere The greenhouse, like say - Earth?

  • @dieVitaCola
    @dieVitaCola 8 років тому +1

    oh! ohhh snap :( thanks vice, I live just 15min with the bicycle away from this place and did not even know about this. I also was there and took some pictures. The empty vilages I confirm that, you will feel lonely if you just see it. But about the Brown Coal Activist, I dont know... RWE, the Power company planted already many Windturbines, I just see them everywhere .

  • @2withyoda
    @2withyoda 8 років тому +1

    While I agree that some things need to change about the coal industry I think these activists are doing it in a absolutely horrible way.

  • @PrasetyoMuhammadDwiBiology
    @PrasetyoMuhammadDwiBiology 8 років тому +1

    damn you called that an enormous hole? try freeport mining in Indonesia, they've dig a mountain down into the earth core :D

  • @seanbeahn6895
    @seanbeahn6895 8 років тому +1

    It's really simple renewable energy just doesn't work.

    • @CyberDocUSA
      @CyberDocUSA 8 років тому

      +Sean Beahn Fossilized fuel is a finite source. What do you propose to replace it when it runs out?

    • @michaelcrawford310
      @michaelcrawford310 8 років тому

      +Sean Beahn ......if your a profiteering elitist.

    • @seanbeahn6895
      @seanbeahn6895 8 років тому +3

      +ᙅYᙖᙓᖇ ᗪOᙅ™ nuclear technology and more extensive research into it.

  • @johnlacy4948
    @johnlacy4948 8 років тому

    I'm not for this type of production of energy, but keep in mind the villages that were destroyed people who lived there got paid more than they should have to move.

  • @gonzostwin1
    @gonzostwin1 8 років тому

    @1:38 that land space is so big, you're telling me if they put solar and wind there in that location it can't make more power than the coal?

  • @Ostarrichi996
    @Ostarrichi996 8 років тому

    13:52 * - * I want this too :D