Brilliant doc...misguided housing policies of the 60s....Divis probably had input from the Brits to keep everyone together under a watchful set of eyes. ...Divis scared the life out of me the first time I went by but most I met were sound
Exactly the same as the crescents in Hulme, Manchester. They stopped putting families in after about 8 years! Full of Junkies, squatters and a very special shabeen called the Kitchen where everyone would go after the Hacienda! About 3 flats knocked through and a set of decks! Rough as fuck by the end a muggers paradise! Lasted 24 years! All gone now! Nothing as bad as the Divis regarding gun battles and Army patrolling but the same shit housing for working class folk.
I feel sorry for the families that had to live in that place,it reminded me of Alcatraz. That high rise style of housing was never going to work. Anywhere.
Stuart Penman yeah ther is still some around have to say if a better standard but some of the houses that were built like same in this documentary were awful imo riddled wae damp ect lived in high rise maself have to say wasn't that bad but pain in ass when chute blocked were rubbish went some of schemes were a disgrace tbh all the best pal
It was the same in Manchester at the time with the Hulme crescent flats it wasn't exclusive to northern Ireland these kinds of flats were all over the UK at the time
@@MancstaSam however the north of Ireland was ruled by the Protestant majority that routinely discriminated against the Catholic minority, i.e the unionists had best housing, jobs and say in government....they marched for their civil rights in 68 and got beaten and shot Dead, think there is a bit of a difference
would have creamed myself photographing this place; from a structural perspective that is. We had one in Leeds called Leek Street Flats which followed an eerily similar timeline. Though Leeds has various similarities to Belfast housing wise.
I was originally from rathcoole, in the 70's when we were put out like nearly every Catholic family they offered us craigavon with a big grant to go with it, my da refused it, I was delivering down at the estate that we were supposed to move to 6 months ago and 90% of the houses were boarded up, what a kip,!
true they did, sometimes intentionally to make them unfit as dwellings so they could be relocated but if you lived in such a depressing, hopeless looking place with high unemployment, poverty, and literally nothing productive to do, is it any wonder it went to shit. It was all a fuck up from the very start.
@@NoirL.A. You said as someone who has lived in a third world country Divis flats was not bad at all. Ireland is not a third world country, so why choose to compare anything in it to one. Divis flats was a dump and I think we deserved better, don’t you.
@@sharonramsey715 no probs with improvememnts but there are ppl. in mexico city that literally liveing in the main trash dump. now to me THAT is poverty. be that as it was i wish the peopl living in the irish flats the best of luck and hopefully someday governments we'll start allocating money where it belongs instead of giving it to government funded stockbrokers to gamble with (and no it doesn't just happen in the states).
Spent most my teenage years running about the flats as they were known best years of my life a lot of great people
These developments where hell for the residents everywhere in the UK, with all of the additional issues in NI it must have been unbearable.
The sarcasm from the guy presenting the documentary 🤣
Brilliant doc...misguided housing policies of the 60s....Divis probably had input from the Brits to keep everyone together under a watchful set of eyes. ...Divis scared the life out of me the first time I went by but most I met were sound
We had the same types of flats here in England too and in some cities still do
Exactly the same as the crescents in Hulme, Manchester. They stopped putting families in after about 8 years! Full of Junkies, squatters and a very special shabeen called the Kitchen where everyone would go after the Hacienda! About 3 flats knocked through and a set of decks! Rough as fuck by the end a muggers paradise! Lasted 24 years! All gone now! Nothing as bad as the Divis regarding gun battles and Army patrolling but the same shit housing for working class folk.
@@MancstaSam does that make things right.
I feel sorry for the families that had to live in that place,it reminded me of Alcatraz. That high rise style of housing was never going to work. Anywhere.
@Stuart Penman I know mate. I grew up in a tenement block,just off the dock road in Liverpool.
Stephen Smith was same in Glasgow in any places at the time fs poor housin ect
Stuart Penman yeah ther is still some around have to say if a better standard but some of the houses that were built like same in this documentary were awful imo riddled wae damp ect lived in high rise maself have to say wasn't that bad but pain in ass when chute blocked were rubbish went some of schemes were a disgrace tbh all the best pal
It was the same in Manchester at the time with the Hulme crescent flats it wasn't exclusive to northern Ireland these kinds of flats were all over the UK at the time
@@MancstaSam however the north of Ireland was ruled by the Protestant majority that routinely discriminated against the Catholic minority, i.e the unionists had best housing, jobs and say in government....they marched for their civil rights in 68 and got beaten and shot Dead, think there is a bit of a difference
would have creamed myself photographing this place; from a structural perspective that is. We had one in Leeds called Leek Street Flats which followed an eerily similar timeline. Though Leeds has various similarities to Belfast housing wise.
Difference was there wasn't snipers on each floor in Leeds lol
You'd have been creamed all over the landings ya fockin brrritttttt!!!
"Tarrbul! They affered me Craigavon!".
I was originally from rathcoole, in the 70's when we were put out like nearly every Catholic family they offered us craigavon with a big grant to go with it, my da refused it, I was delivering down at the estate that we were supposed to move to 6 months ago and 90% of the houses were boarded up, what a kip,!
love irish women belfast ...im cockney lad catholic too
dont be doing all that philip
All pre planned. I loved playing in the bombdys. And on the olla 😂
Can anyone tell me where the name "Pound loney" originated from ?
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Thought this was about internment ? Isn't this about the quality of poor housin in that area reminds me a bit of balgrayhill in springburn only worse
I remember they knocked these down in the early 90s. The mistake they made is they moved the residents out beforehand. :)
Biggest mistake your da made was not pulling out
How depressing.
Was that wee Gilbert
1977 according to the narrator.
Pound loney
loney = Lane
the dog pound was at the bottom of the lane
pound loney
Bit of a trolling documentary title - it's not about internment at all
Wrecked their own area
true they did, sometimes intentionally to make them unfit as dwellings so they could be relocated but if you lived in such a depressing, hopeless looking place with high unemployment, poverty, and literally nothing productive to do, is it any wonder it went to shit. It was all a fuck up from the very start.
Serious? U must be upper middle class
The term Pound,derived from an animal pound situated in the lower Falls. The Loney comes from a patway or loanan.
as someone who has lived in a third world country i would have to say this is not that bad at all.
You need to rethink your statement.
@@sharonramsey715 how do you mean?
@@NoirL.A. You said as someone who has lived in a third world country Divis flats was not bad at all. Ireland is not a third world country, so why choose to compare anything in it to one. Divis flats was a dump and I think we deserved better, don’t you.
@@sharonramsey715 no probs with improvememnts but there are ppl. in mexico city that literally liveing in the main trash dump. now to me THAT is poverty.
be that as it was i wish the peopl living in the irish flats the best of luck and hopefully someday governments we'll start allocating money where it belongs instead of giving it to government funded stockbrokers to gamble with (and no it doesn't just happen in the states).
See how you like your shiny new 15 minute city.
If you don't know what I am talking about, search it.
so catholics got a raw deal micheal collins phew
apparently the flats were for the prods but they took them, sadly its still a dump
the taxes went to the army and police and the army and police shot you
You can't polish a turd
terrible
Can anyone tell me where the name "Pound loney" originated from ?