only countries with shitty healthcare are worried for good reasons about a biological virus, the most dangerous one, is simply an idear in peoples minds.
You think you'll 'learn' but you won't really. Live in NI and most folks here don't really know the what, when, where and how. Yes you'll have the bitter one here and there from both sides that spout the obvious, but most younger ones seem to be getting past that. Neither side is going to go anywhere, so time to learn to live together.
War crimes in N. Ireland. Northern Ireland created for Protestants Terrorists to prevent them bringing Civil War to England. Irish Home Bill not enacted, ie the return of Ireland to the Irish.
@@mirola73 Catholics are aware of the what, when, who etc. Protestants are ignorant of the facts. Promising civil war to their King if Irish Home Rule Bill was enacted. The result Northern Ireland. England wanted rid of their Irish colony.
@Rolf Harris At some time in 1943, an assistant at the Turkish consulate told Kent that the Germans had just loaded 80 Jews living in Marseilles into cattle cars for immediate transport to probable death in Germany. Kent later recalled, "To this day, I remember the inscription on the wagon: 'This wagon may be loaded with 20 heads of cattle and 500 kilograms of grass'."[2][3] Kent approached the Gestapo commander at the station, and demanded that the Jews be released, as they were Turkish citizens and Turkey was neutral. The official refused to do so, saying that the people were nothing but Jews.[2] Kent and his assistant quickly got on the train, too. The German official asked him to get off, but Kent refused. At the next station, German officers boarded and apologized to Kent for not letting him off at Marseilles; they had a car waiting outside to return him to his office. Kent explained that the mistake was that 80 Turkish citizens had been loaded on the train. "As a representative of a government that rejected such treatment for religious beliefs, I could not consider leaving them there," he said. Surprised at his uncompromising stance, the Germans ultimately let everyone off the train -necdet kent,
Pains me as an Englishman that this happened, along with so many other things. The average English person has no grievance with the Irish or most people for that matter, but our Government does in our names as Government's do.
@@noelmoran5725uck off, take some responsibility the IRA is purely the fault is the Irish. Voted to stay in the United Kingdom and they couldn't accept that so they started a war that is on the IRA, not the English. NI wants to leave they should do it by law not war.
@Noel Moran Most are my friend, only the ignorant think otherwise, and those in power with something to gain from the suffering of others. The average Englishman are no different to the Irish, we are just trying to live our lives out in peace with our families, same as you.
Нино Јевтић привет из России. I’ve recently read document based book “say nothing” about The Troubles. It was first time I got so deep into this theme and reasons of the conflict shocked me greatly. If you didn’t read it I strongly recommend it to you.
@@thephaze3 hahaha this was the mass and, very disciplinary time, for meak more demeg or problem, I'm Croatian some people was killed like srbs or Albanian, Croatian, Bosnian, for nothing it was big.. Brutality and somthing what you can se from 1940-1945, becus srbs was thinking that rasha can stop the world, btw winter it's not rusha, it was sacha piss in the wind with.
It's almost as if the threat of Irish Republican terrorism has subsided and instead the police can focus on domestic knife crime which has skyrocketed in recent years.
@@nialltomy15 i wonder what's gonna happen when all your cooking utensils are taken away? will brick-crime go up? it's almost as if you live in a pseudo-totalitarian state with limited rights.
@@josephpapilson7224 i appreciate your tone, and that makes a substantial amount of sense. i still find it ridiculous that UK police are confiscating butter knives from people in public though. i know it isn't quite as bad as "you got a loisence for that spoon m8? off to the cultural enrichment centre!" but the laws still seem nonsensical to someone in a country where machinegun rental ranges exist, and there's gun shop in every major town. in my experience, here in the US firearms have been used to great effect for self defense. maybe the general nature of crime in britan is different and guns aren't useful for defending yourself, but i'm not familiar enough with the appropriate knowledge to make any assertions on that.
Well they extinguish anything to do with tradition. Now you got blacks and women as royal guards and officers, half the army being minorities and uniforms looking almost like the US ones. Well what do you expect
Osama Obama it is true. The RUC police force here used to only hire 6 foot or taller men who could beat the shit out of criminals, all be it they were sectarian to Catholics. Now our police force has more small fat women who couldn’t get a sheep out of a bush in my area because they kept running away when the sheep made sudden moves.
@@askhowiknow5527 I can just imagine "OK, can you stand next to this helicopter that won't be on screen whenever you talk? Thanks. The people at the BBC have been really pissing me off lately".
It was almost literally a constant background noise when I was a child. It's now my version of hippies listening to whale song or forest rains, sends me to sleep.
@@CancerGaming56 ASMR Thirty Years of Continuous Relaxing Helicopter Noise (with occasional gunfire and the noise of some spokesman/politician ranting.
Lived through it, as a catholic my father and uncles were regularly beaten by the RUC. I hated the brits there and I mean hated. But that hatred has gone as I'm alot older now. I'm 61.
This was normal life growing up in Northern Ireland. I was raised in a mixed area but this was not the norm. People of my age, would never want things to go back to "The Troubles".
Or how about stunting another generation with fictions of an invisible all-seeing all-powerful entity that only Kings and Popes can see, and with promises of jobs and material advantages over their less virtuous fellows if they do as they're told and say their prayers and work hard at school, as part of a nation with an infamous history of brutal oppression and exploitation, in which Irish people have never been treated as the equals of British people no matter how accomplished or precocious they were, whose industry ultimately brings nothing but conflict and ruin, and indeed has led the world into the worst global environmental catastrophe in the history of the human race. Talk about stupid.
@@josephlambin1209 Are "the English" IN Ireland? Where? Gosh, Joseph, I get the impression that you know almost nothing about this complex situation. Youre not....an American... by any chance. Are you?
That's, why it's important to not judge history by modern standards or in 100 years people, will look down on their previous generations' decisions and in 200 years look down on their previous as well.
Did 2 tours, Creggan, Derry early 1970’s. Me. Naive, immature, a child, sheltered life on a farm 2 miles from the nearest village. Read, the Daily Express😨 Thought I was on the right side. Decades later, returned during the peace process. Met victims, ex-paramilitaries etc. Best educational experience of my life.
I visited Derry recently, thought what a beautiful place, green meadows stretching all the way down to the sea. The next day, somebody murdered a journalist during a riot in the Creggan :-(. I decided to go for a pint in the Bobby Sands pub in Belfast - I was too scared to get out of the car. If it was too dangerous for the Army to use the roads of South Armagh, imagine what it was like for the public!
I just finished my history degree in Cork and reading about the conflict was always incredibly depressing because I could not imagine how the soldiers would 1. do the things they did and 2. fall in line when they saw something they objected to. I'm glad to know that some of them learned, even if it is too late to change what happened.
Th@nks for sh@ring. Yee m@de it thru!...;) Gotz some pretty impressive Pir@te 'Gon st@shes o'oer there. NOW. STILL. R@ise The Red Rooster On The Cloister Roof(sssssss) type of Bl@ck-B@nner ShitStuff. Possess BOTH types of muzik too! ~Gotz n' Flori@n. (Country & Western IF 'eh Blues Brother) Pepper-Potted those goitered-up scurvy-ridden non-limeys @LL've dhe "Broken Sp@re-P@rts Dept" stuff y@rs b@ck.....
@@jackietreehorn5561 On the Falls Road. Looking on GMaps, I can't see any pubs at all - so maybe it was a pub opposite the BS mural, or maybe everything has been rebuilt/changed since I was there.
No one won or lost the Irish troubles, the poor squadie was sent there to protect the Catholics from the prodies originally, Then early on , the whole thing went tits up with the soldier's stuck in the middle and given no clear idea of his role. A lot of good lad's died over there for political reason's.
I amcarbonandotherbits. Well said a bit of honest common sense. There are no winners and the younger generation in Ireland mix in clubs and bars now and couldn't care less about the politics
Scottish piker , Thanks, and all power to the younger generations elbow, I did not know things were going so well over there. Maybe something good did climb out of all that misery after all.
Ain´t it always the squadies and the "collaterals" suffering? Were, are, will be. The fish always starts stinking at the head... Nice post though, I´m totally with You there.
Just to let you know. There was so much collusion between the British soldiers and the loyalists that all it did was make matters worse. Its not possible to defeat a people who's dignity is being taken away. Truth is unless there is some real agreement between the Irish and English as in Britain leave the North there will always be tensions. If its don't through vote then everyone will except it but not through violence.
Unreal some what happened in those days.. and what I'm reading here in comments... I'm from S.Armagh proud to be from and always will!..... I know what it was, and like and what I grew up with in those times... unreal dreadful!!!. that I hope I'll never happen again.
@6:45 Guy comes running down the street wearing body armor toting an automatic rifle right past some dude who's just casually washing his car giving zero fucks.
Infact that isnt an automatic rifle, its an L1A1 SLR most likely which was reserved for semi automatic fire only, it was a British design choice used up until they swapped it for the piece of trash we call the L85A1
Life goes on. They knew a) best to stay out of it, and b) it was so common that they would never get anything done if they did this every time a soldier went by. Israel i similar.
@@fbiagent9666 The only options were that or go to live elsewhere. It's scary how fast bad or bizarre things become "normal" even when they are unacceptable. You can see that in 2020 and the restrictive measure being brought in just now worldwide like electronic IDs and tracking.
@@NapoleonGelignite "Normal" Police forces don;t have to face armed terrorists trying to kill them as they go about their duty, something you left out from your pithy response. I worked alongside the RUC on many occasions over there, I have nothing but admiration for them.
@@UrMom-jb7vl Helmets protect against shrapnel but not bullets. No point in wearing helmets on a mission like that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o%27_shanter_(cap)#Military_use
Watching this news as a younger person back in the day I remember when a band called something like the Miami Show Band were killed at a checkpoint and it just broke my heart. They were just living their lives bringing music and fun to all and some thugs just had to kill them for no reason. I still say prayers for those young men to this day.
there's good reason to believe that massacre was carried out under supervision of British military intelligence. Although it was ostensibly carried out by loyalist terrorists, one of the band members who survived overheard a strong English accent at the scene. It may well have been Robert Nairac who was later killed by the IRA in retaliation.
@@4exgold I love the hypocrisy "Loyalist terrorists" Yet the IRA get called by their acronym. They were both terrorists, they committed violent acts under political reasoning. Keep up the standard.
@@k.c.o3477 you forgot one tiny little point....the Loyalist terrorists were backed by British military & intelligence. There's no doubt the Republican terrorists committed awful atrocities. Let's not forget though that it was Catholics being attacked and murdered by British forces that sparked and prolonged the conflict in the first place.
@@k.c.o3477 ira and loyalist is just easier to say then spelling out any of the random acronyms for either sides guerrilla groups makes it simpler for foreigners to follow along
Yes, that wasn't War, it was cold, calculated, premeditated Murder of innocent Roman Catholics. IRA men were fair game imo, shoot to kill, but not members of the public. 🇬🇧 ps Nairac was indeed involved
This where I grew up in the 1970's. Luckily we left when I was still young. It's very weird looking at this now. Seems like a long time ago but can remember it like yesterday simultaneously.
My granny hated the English all her life and would freeze rather then burn English coal in winter..she had to be held back till tv station changed if the Queen appeared on tv station,!!!!! To her the enemy till the hour she passed on..truth... she kept many secrets,being old ira, to the core.. god bless her..
Obviously this is not a relaxing topic but I very much like this documentary / report style. It's quite the opposite from the ADHD-laden media / documentary bullshit with soundtracks and shit that is produced today.
At the time, this looked like an impossibly ugly insoluble problem. And yet, somehow, a compromise was reached. Makes me a tiny bit more optimistic about humanity's future.
I'm Irish living in England I am disgusted wi the amount of people in the uk that have no idea that there was a full blown war going on just a few miles away
Most Brits give Zero Fucks about your disgust, because its a long gone bit of malarky that got out of hand and is now fixed. So please feel free to continue to be disgusted, frankly no-one will ever notice.
there was a more pressing problem here in 1940, like 900 German bombers flying up the Thames all at once----without warning. The Provos actually Bombed London during WW2 but it never quite made the Worlds Headlines like the London Blitz did, probably something to do with the level of seriousness regarding the total bomb damage.
Republican Catholics want a united Ireland but Loyalist Protestants want to stay with England under England rule... both side are to die and killed for what the want, but Religion has nothing to do with why we fight.
Spent every summer in Newtown Hamilton in the early 90’s. It was very safe and friendly and deadly dangerous at the same time. Never experienced anything like it.
Fascinating slice of history. Tragic also. Both sides doing their best in striving for a cause they truly believed in. I served 16 years in the Army but also had many Republican friends from my time at Queens University Belfast. The film Harrys Game probably sums it up best. If it's worth dying for, it's worth living for.
@@danlugo4365 even if that were what they were really doing, which it wasn't, there's a right way and a wrong way. What did Mountbattens kids and grandkids do? What did the other people on the boat do? You're a naive fool.
@@johnroscoe2406 Foreign soldiers supporting an apartheid state, a literal "protestant land for a protestant people" where Catholics were literally shot dead for marching for basic civil rights. What would you do in that situation? The principal of fighting a foreign occupation is as noble as it gets. The execution is another matter.
Well, Ireland was already fully under English control by the time that the UK came into being; so conquering Ireland was never a *British* problem. Before that, English control over the region ebbed and flowed for several centuries, mainly due to England's ongoing involvement in wars over far richer territories in France- and not any particularly stiff resistance to invasion.
RIP to those that lost their lives in this tragic tragic conflict. Every time i read up on this the young age of those murdered in cold blood sends pure shivers from my heart, i hope we can all live in peace on this earth forever more! Regardless of your religion. ☺️🙏
@Dark Shield I think you actually mean "people" and their inability to truly empathize/talk to one another will ensure that we will never have such a world. Plenty of people through history started bloody conflicts who dont come into those categories. The root of the problems that caused the Troubles date all the way back to the roman invasion.
wasnt a religious conflict, religion is just a tool used to divide folx when everyone shouldve been fighting against britain and capitalism like the IRA was
@@allgodsnomasters2822 while I get why people dislike capitalism as a system due to its ability to turn into Corporatism, its flaws extend from the ignorance of the population. For example, if the majority of the people had a fundamental grasp of economics, had the ability to account for their own biases, had a reasonable amount of knowledge regarding world history, and took a more active part in not only elections but all aspects of politics capitalism would be a near perfect system. Religion, much like any social division be it race, political leanings, or nationality, can be used to foster resentment by those with dishonest/evil intentions in addition to the positives it brings to society. Im not to sure how many actual IRA members would have said they were fighting against capitalism. English yes, but capitalism...
It's a minefield as a foreigner to have an opinion concerning the situation i Northern Ireland. Went there last year, and it is an.... unusual experience. I met people from both communities and was overwhelmed by honest hospotality. I wish the six counties all the best, regardless of which way you choose to go. And I will be back....
My dad got arrested and held for two days over being stopped with a boot full of out of date loaves of bread to feed to his chickens. It was literally “Who’s all this bread for?”
It's like people saying that the 1940's were simpler, safer times. No, they weren't. Have a look at the blitzed cities of Britain and Europe and tell me that's somewhere you would want to live. Well, go live in Aleppo then, it's like that now! The irony with the 60s is that it was a deliberately colourful decade but much of the mass media, both TV and film, were in black and white. The 1970s were beige and grey (and for most of the time, there was an atmosphere of depression, both economic and social)- and yet the mass media were now in colour.
my god look at it now , labour , the torys just waffling , i am old enough to remember all of this , my god they have succeeded in dumbing every thing down , i know your comment is two years old but have a look out your window now , were bloody imbeciles that have been brainwashed out of any logical thinking
I was just thinking that. I reckon people would have an easier time engaging with politics and strategy if politicians just spoke in plain terms instead of the meaningless waffle we get today. Everything has to be sugarcoated so that there’s no possible way for the opposition to get a good sound bite. The result is s a lot of words spoken but ultimately nothing said. I’m no conspiracist but the news and politicians definitely speak to the public like they’re children.
With more women in power and men increasingly victimised for speaking their minds, is it any wonder we're in an age of rampant subterfuge and "wrongthink" getting severely punished, causing politicians to hunker down and learn how to play the media and the (simply idiotic and complacent) general public to such a degree that even though we complain, they still do what they want?
12 men acting outrageous, and around 30 doing terror. And he believed it would take an additional 4 battalions of 600 men a piece, to combat these around 42 men.. 42 vs 3000
My Grandfather left Northern Ireland in 1915. He joined the British Army and then went to France when it was a total meat grinder. From what me Mom told me he said what's the difference either getting killed by Irish bullets or German bullets. He was gassed in France and then eventually came to Canada. He died in 1933 probably from drinking.
Here in South America, Chile and Argentina, we had their own "dirty war back in the 1970's ", just like in "The Bandit Country". In Chile, specifically, we had our own rebel group named " Frente Patriótico Manuel Rodríguez" (FPMR), named after one of our national heroes in the independence war against Spain, back in the XIX century. There´s a legend that the IRA trained some chilean guerrilla figthers, but it has never been proved. Now, Ireland is in peace, and is the fastest growing economy in Europe. "Peace, is the supreme victory of a warrior..."
Fernando Esteban Zuñiga Andrade ... The IRA traded their “training capabilities” to several groups globally in exchange for introductions in the global terror and criminal underworld. In the case of South America they gave training at certain camps in exchange for intros and arrangements with major narco- groups. In the Gulf War infrared beam triggers for IEDs were seen many times ... the IRA had taught this to the PLO and other groups for years beforehand in exchange for various materials and access to key networks. The PLO and others (at camps in N Africa, various parts of Asia and the Middle East) then passed this training on to several other groups ... AQ and all its successors being one set. All on wiki ..
Well good for you. I’m from the mainland and Protestant and have zero animosity towards you. I’m 52 and worked at Aldergrove twice (for many months) during my civvy work over 36 years. I would love to take everyone in NI to London for a week, there isn’t any friendly waves, nobody says hello. You people in NI don’t realise how wonderful you’re country is. I know the Belfast stare....seen it a thousand times. Just smile, it ain’t worth it. Anyway the last time I was over there you don’t have a Brit problem, even I saw the Chinese now taking the piss.
Francesc Xavier Bultó you live on the “mainland”? Would you say that to someone who lived in France? I don’t think you would. To the people of the North of Ireland you live in Great Britain, not the mainland. Zero animosity? You are deliberately employing micro-aggression.
Had the pleasure of visiting South Armagh just this year, in 2023. The lady at the coffee shop in Crossmaglen was kind despite my English accent, and a distant family friend further north in Newry recalled his life during the troubles. I even found some old green army jackets in my closet... yikes.
As a 1981 born boy from north Monaghan, lots of this resonates with me. I think it resonates with all of us from that time and place. Some more than others. But the quality of news broadcasting is so plain, reasonably balanced and interesting
Aaaah, this brings back memories. I went to a staunch catholic school in Newry, with lots of lads there from Cross/Cullyhanna - word got out that my old man was ex-Army. Learnt to fight to a decent standard pretty quickly!
Similar story here. Dad was ex army, mother from a pro IRA family. I had an English accent and went to a Catholic school. Tough times, but you grow up learning to have tough skin.
Basically more people talking religion for more than it is, a way to teach less evolved people how to live in society like a good citizen and cope with death. Problem is people like to abuse and corrupt the power over people that it gives. Pretty much Jihad summed up. Bunch of people who are lost and someone comes along and gives them a "purpose" with the use of religion, the problem is the jihad leaders don't actually care about religion and it's basically one giant cartel cult. Actually the same reason people join the military, want to feel they have a purpose bigger than themselves.
Microtransaction it actually had more to do with a United Ireland than religion. The unionists were just afraid of persecution by the Irish government as unionists were mostly Protestant
as a kid growing up in Yorkshire UK during the 70's Ireland was something that was on TV but as you get older and realise just what a warzone it was it's crazy to think this was happening so close yet seemed as far away as Beruit.Ethiopia or South africa the other places on the news when I was a kid...I do remember getting into proper trouble at school for telling the class that we are not the 'goodies' and shouldnt be there lol.....
No one were the goodies, There were bad people on both sides, and obviously good people. Both sides are painted with the deeds of the bad people by the other side.
Haatchii Lets face it us ( the Brits ) shouldn't have been there in the 1st place..We did our classic 'divide and conquer' thing we did in Africa,india and Isreal only it was not as eazy to ignore on our doorstep....
HULL GRAFFITI I could not imagine one person reading your word and still feel hate in his heart. Your words are so humble. I see a bit of myself in you as a kid and still today. Not afraid to tell it as it is.. Much love to you Hull..please don't change. :)
You have no idea what you are talking about. We were definitely not in the wrong in the troubles, the PIRA put bombs in pubs and marathons, but that is fine. We did commit atrocities such as bloody sunday, but the difference between bloody sunday type events and purposefully putting bombs in pubs in an area that has no relevance to your cause, is pretty substantial.
Haatchii its war and yes there are no such things as the goodies but there is the right and there is the wrong. you invade a country your going to have people trying to kill you
My family came from Newry and the people in that area are nice. I visited my cousins in 1994 and did a car ride through this very area. There was a cease fire at the time. I saw some armed men but the British didn’t go into the area when I was there. In Crossmaglen there is a statue to the IRA in the town square. I saw soldiers in Belfast but not in Crossmaglen.
Aye , That's because the brits were terrified of the IRA sniper's in Crossmaglen or as republicans call South Armagh ' God's Country ' . Tiocfaidh Ar La...!! Eire Nua , Saoirse !!
They were there, helicopters was the mode of transport used by the British army because travelling by road would leave the army open to attack and bombs ignited by remote control e
@@raymondsawyer8626 They should not have been there in the first place , That goes for all the other countries the Brits invaded but it was the Irish who fought back and gained a Republic for it. One day it will be 32 Eire !!
@@MarkG-f7v it's inevitable that time will come, but I hope with all my heart it is a non violent peaceful transition and the hatred and division disappears for ever
@@raymondsawyer8626 Aye , I hope for the same...My country has seen too much sectarianism and blood spilt . As the great Wolfe Tone said ' Protestant , Catholic and Dissenter...!!
They say that the ghost of Robert Nairac still walks around the lanes of South Armagh. Dressed as s transient forever trapped in Erin, he will always be the enigms that never got home
My mother is from Armagh, she lived just outside Crossmaglen. I heard stories of my dad travelling to her having to deal with border checks and harassment. When I was young we travelled through Crossmaglen a lot and and the barracks is still there with the marks of petrol bombs. Never understood why they were there because I was young, the town was so quiet and it never seemed like what had gone on all those years before actually happened.
I recall all this footage i was 13 yrs old living in Dublin it was always on the news . my uncle lost a friend in the bombing of dublin city after this happened you would walk around a car with northern plates or change to the other side of the road and bomb scares in town where another freak out scoffing down that ice cream before ya had to run to a safe place . I never left a 99 flake ever in all bomb scares to rare to leave !
@@bennathan7353 I'm not sure what your trying to get at, my original comment was about how the journalist stated it was "Britain oldest problem" but failed to mention it was Britain's fault.
Thanks for posting this documentary. Been listening to BBC here in the US for many years. This shows life at the time and the conflicts and the reasons for them are quite interesting, from the troubles on.
@@pauloneill914 I know that. I listen to it for information on other countries. When Alan Kasuje visited California he went to UC Irvine to talk to students. UCI is one of the most liberal schools in our state.
Wow look at what real reporting and journalism is, props to the PM too for defending his position, only if more dialogue in politics today was like this, just the situation at the time was horrendous
Was watching german Hip Hop videos and youtube recoomended this video for me. I am a little bit confused but I now know about the conflict in northern ireland from the 1970s. Awesome!
@Michael Halligan Non Irish Protestant's ........so if someone was born in Ireland, has lived in Ireland all of his life and so has his family before him for 400 years he or she is not Irish?
With the benefit of hindsight we can say with some certainty that the Labour government of the late 1960s managed to turn a minor but largely legitimate civil rights movement in Ulster into a civil war through a combination of ignorance and negligence. When the 'troubles' first started I, as a thirteen year old, asked a friend of mine who came from Ulster what was going on. Of course, he couldn't explain it to me in terms that I could understand and he couldn't explain it without being partisan anyway. In this I was no different to the vast majority of people, of all ages, on the mainland and he was no different to the vast majority of people from Ireland, both North and South. However, in the course of our discussion he mentioned to me, in an entirely offhand manner, that his father had six votes in every general election. I was incredulous. Six votes? ... How could that be legitimate? Even at the age of thirteen I knew all about the principle of one man, one vote. He told me that in Ulster, you had a vote in every constituency in which you owned property. It never even occurred to me to enquire whether his father was a protestant or a catholic, a Republican or a Unionist, so deep was my ignorance on the subject. All I knew was that for one man to have six votes was undemocratic and unfair.... and if people were demonstrating against such injustice, then they had perfectly legitimate cause for complaint. Further investigation showed that the civil rights movement was also complaining about injustice in housing and employment and they seemed to have legitimate cause for complaint about that as well... and if I had known what gerrymandering was as a thirteen year old I would have thought even less of the system of governance in Ulster at the time. Moreover, the problems seemed to be inextricably linked with a history of which I, and most other people on the mainland, were entirely ignorant, but seemed to be tied in, for some peculiar reason, with whether one was protestant or catholic, whatever that might mean. Religion was not, then as now, a topic of hot conversation among teenagers, or indeed, anybody else in mainland Britain, so why it should be an issue in Ulster was incomprehensible to us. Unfortunately, the Labour government that Harold Wilson led did nothing to address the issues raised by the civil rights movement, leaving the 'problems' to be dealt with by the devolved Ulster government in Stormont, in a complete dereliction of obvious duty and a failure to recognise that what they were actually doing was leaving the 'problems' to be dealt with by the very people who were responsible for the 'problems' in the first place and had no intention of resolving any of them in any spirit of democracy or, indeed, at all. The result was inevitable: A slow descent into a quarter of a century of minor civil war. Of course, if you happen to be caught up in a civil war, it isn't particularly minor. In fact, if you happen to be one of the dead, then there's nothing minor about it at all, is there?... and it could have all been so easily avoided at the start, by simply addressing the issues raised by the civil rights movement and applying the same principles of ordinary democracy that applied everywhere else in the United Kingdom and ensuring that the people, all the people, of Ulster had the same rights and privileges as each other, as they would have in any normal democracy. That was, and still is, a perfectly legitimate aspiration for any society and it lay within the purview of Harold Wilson's government to bring it about. Their failure to do so condemned them utterly. Of course, the Unionists would have complained. The Paisleyites and loyalists would have shrieked of treachery, but their complaints could have been answered with the perfectly reasonable and entirely true response that all the British government was doing was ensuring that all of Her Majesty's subjects throughout the United Kingdom would have the same rights and privileges as each other. The hand washing indulged in by Harold Wilson at the end of this documentary would have shamed Pontius Pilate and entirely encapsulated the supreme inactivity and abject failure of his government to do anything positive at all to address or even recognise the reality of the situation his government negligently created in Ulster. They were the guilty party and should be condemned as such. It lay within their purview to do the right thing and stop the problem before it got started and they did......precisely nothing.
I don't have fault with the vast majority of what you say, however "ensuring that all of Her Majesty's subjects throughout the United Kingdom would have the same rights and privileges as each other." The point is that Northern Ireland was protestant thanks to British history and british policy remained very pro protestant in the tiny state. Those with any power and influence in NI were protestants and they enjoyed the status quo. It sounds wrong because it is wrong, but the fact remains, providing very strict equal oppurtunites to protestants and catholics would have eventually dissolved the Northern Irish state and the protestants would have eventually found themselves in the minority and been chased out. The army being sent in just collapsed the trust on all sides, and the politicians none willing to fall on their sword or stake their career on a permanent solution - same as today cos there is none.
Your ignorance to the situation in the north of Ireland shines through when you refer to it as Ulster. Ulster is one of four provinces in Ireland, it is made up of nine counties, six of which are occupied by Britain. Secondarily, your reference to “the mainland.” The north of Ireland is not some 3 acre holm from which the inhabitants nip over to the mainland to buy cigarettes and sheep dip. A great many people here do however “nip” across the so called border for work in Dundalk, Dublin, Donegal and many other places on the “mainland.”
I was in the army there. West Belfast was all aggro. In your face. Tensions. Spitting. Verbals. Rifles fists swinging after dark. South armagh different. Locals looked through you like you weren't there. And unlike rest of PIRA. They are warriors down there.
I have lived most of my life between the land of Ireland and the land of England, Scotland and Wales. Growing up in the 1980s these places were at war no mistaking it. I'm very lucky for where I grew up.
To say these were sad times for all involved is an understatement. Be you form whatever side or even just a bystander court up in this tragedy. The real tragedy is some have not learnt from the tragic past. There were so many mistakes made on both sides lets hope this happen again. Don't remember this is a victory or a loss, Remember it as the tragedy for all that it was.
Not sad for the British, the British paramilitaries funded by their government had free reign to do whatever they wanted and they did, so they had a great time
Well you wouldn't would you. Although there is another side to this. I was reading a book about the UVF and there was a quote from policeman saying more police were assigned to investigate the Yorkshire Ripper than were put onto the UVF. People think that the loyalists were on the same side as the RUC and British forces. That's partly true, but loyalists have been known to fight the police on many occasions, and some of them kept suspecting that they would be jettisoned off at some point. They did get a few "touts" in the IRA, notably so called "Steak Knife", but it was very difficult for the RUC to have agents in the IRA. That had to be left to British intelligence, as they would have better financial inducements and surveillance equipment.
0:55 Northern Ireland isn't Ulster. Ulster is an Irish Provence made up of 9 Counties, 6 of which make up Northern Ireland. The English and the Protestants from Northern Ireland think wrongly that Northern Ireland is Ulster. The Hound of Ulster would have driven out those invaders and occupiers.
Only recently visited Crossmaglen, from living in north armagh love it feel at home here strange ano but the people are so friendly n fearless in every way, I'd buy a home here in a heart beat.
I have family living in South Armagh. From what I have heard and read. The region was in kept in a permeant lawless uproar. Cross border banditry, cattle rustling, and smuggling were rampant and daily occurrences. The most horrible atrocities were the sectarian murders. Each side provoking each other into greater atrocities. And the civilians caught in the middle. Many of the sectarian attacks committed by both sides were largely motivated by the fact it was simpler and easier to murder Catholic and protestant civilians than to hunt down and engage members of the other paramilitaries
@@kosmokritikos9299 Kingsmill massacre? Eilskillen bombing? Bloody Friday?the IRA and the loyalist paramilitaries were nothing more than the gangs of murdering thugs.
Also, why do you believe that this is a religious conflict? That is also a clear indication that you are absolutely clueless. This is a foreign occupation of a sovereign nation. It is not, Not, NOT, "I hate you because you don't go to my church."
@@kosmokritikos9299 okay the people murdered in Kingsmill were protestant textile workers not soldiers or police. The sole survivor was a Catholic. While there were notable exceptions the majority of the division was based on sectarian lines. I never said it was a solely religious conflict. "Foreign occupation" Northern Ireland remained part of the UK under the treaty signed in 1921 by a democracitcly elected Irish government. The border poll in 1971 showed that 99% voted to remain in the United Kingdom. Democracy for all its flaws is the best solution. Not living under the terriosts.
My dad is from Armagh, I remember going up there on holidays every year and seeing those soldiers everywhere hiding, one of them pointed his gun at me I was about 6 or 7 years old
World: Pandemic
UA-cam: 'Lets learn about conflicts in Northern Ireland in 1976'
only countries with shitty healthcare are worried for good reasons about a biological virus, the most dangerous one, is simply an idear in peoples minds.
You think you'll 'learn' but you won't really. Live in NI and most folks here don't really know the what, when, where and how. Yes you'll have the bitter one here and there from both sides that spout the obvious, but most younger ones seem to be getting past that. Neither side is going to go anywhere, so time to learn to live together.
War crimes in N. Ireland. Northern Ireland created for Protestants Terrorists to prevent them bringing Civil War to England. Irish Home Bill not enacted, ie the return of Ireland to the Irish.
@@mirola73 Catholics are aware of the what, when, who etc. Protestants are ignorant of the facts. Promising civil war to their King if Irish Home Rule Bill was enacted. The result Northern Ireland. England wanted rid of their Irish colony.
What better way to make quarantine entertaining, than learning about history.
A Turkish saying goes like this
If two Fish are fighting in the Same bowl, that's when you know the English were there.
@Rolf Harris When did turkey fight for Hitler?
@Rolf Harris
At some time in 1943, an assistant at the Turkish consulate told Kent that the Germans had just loaded 80 Jews living in Marseilles into cattle cars for immediate transport to probable death in Germany. Kent later recalled, "To this day, I remember the inscription on the wagon: 'This wagon may be loaded with 20 heads of cattle and 500 kilograms of grass'."[2][3] Kent approached the Gestapo commander at the station, and demanded that the Jews be released, as they were Turkish citizens and Turkey was neutral. The official refused to do so, saying that the people were nothing but Jews.[2]
Kent and his assistant quickly got on the train, too. The German official asked him to get off, but Kent refused. At the next station, German officers boarded and apologized to Kent for not letting him off at Marseilles; they had a car waiting outside to return him to his office. Kent explained that the mistake was that 80 Turkish citizens had been loaded on the train. "As a representative of a government that rejected such treatment for religious beliefs, I could not consider leaving them there," he said. Surprised at his uncompromising stance, the Germans ultimately let everyone off the train
-necdet kent,
Also heard an Armenian saying that goes like this, 'if the Turks are a nation, then it is a nation of murderers.'
@Rolf Harris Turkey did not fight for Hitler, go spout your ignorance somewhere else
@Rolf Harris You are thinking of WWI where Turkey sided with the axis. Turkey was neutral in WWII.
The algorithm is trying to offset the influence of all the Irish rebel songs I've been listening to.
Nice try, UA-cam.
26+6=1
Óró sé do bheatha abhaile
@@deepdownderpSo that's about the long and short of it... we'll be detonating a bomb every hour until UA-cam releases Brothers Kevin and SepticEye...
they really slap though don't they
ARMOURED CARS AND TANKS AND GUNS...
Pains me as an Englishman that this happened, along with so many other things. The average English person has no grievance with the Irish or most people for that matter, but our Government does in our names as Government's do.
If every English man was like u there would b no need for da IRA
If only you Brits hadn't been in Ireland in the first place and screwed up all things then all of this wouldn't have happened idiot
@@noelmoran5725uck off, take some responsibility the IRA is purely the fault is the Irish. Voted to stay in the United Kingdom and they couldn't accept that so they started a war that is on the IRA, not the English. NI wants to leave they should do it by law not war.
@Noel Moran Most are my friend, only the ignorant think otherwise, and those in power with something to gain from the suffering of others. The average Englishman are no different to the Irish, we are just trying to live our lives out in peace with our families, same as you.
@@LookHereMars Why do you think I should believe what you just say?
I'm from Serbia and i actually searched for this, because The Troubles are so interesting to me.
Agreed, I find the break-up of Yugoslavia equally as interesting
Hello! That is nice. and it is a pleasure to meet you.
Нино Јевтић привет из России. I’ve recently read document based book “say nothing” about The Troubles. It was first time I got so deep into this theme and reasons of the conflict shocked me greatly. If you didn’t read it I strongly recommend it to you.
Kaj ne vids da je isti kurac, Ali drugo pakovanje.. Komso seti se svih mrtvih.
@@thephaze3 hahaha this was the mass and, very disciplinary time, for meak more demeg or problem, I'm Croatian some people was killed like srbs or Albanian, Croatian, Bosnian, for nothing it was big.. Brutality and somthing what you can se from 1940-1945, becus srbs was thinking that rasha can stop the world, btw winter it's not rusha, it was sacha piss in the wind with.
in the 70's they were searching for bombs. now they're searching for butter knives.
You got a licence for that fork?
It's almost as if the threat of Irish Republican terrorism has subsided and instead the police can focus on domestic knife crime which has skyrocketed in recent years.
@@nialltomy15 i wonder what's gonna happen when all your cooking utensils are taken away? will brick-crime go up? it's almost as if you live in a pseudo-totalitarian state with limited rights.
@@josephpapilson7224 i appreciate your tone, and that makes a substantial amount of sense. i still find it ridiculous that UK police are confiscating butter knives from people in public though.
i know it isn't quite as bad as "you got a loisence for that spoon m8? off to the cultural enrichment centre!" but the laws still seem nonsensical to someone in a country where machinegun rental ranges exist, and there's gun shop in every major town.
in my experience, here in the US firearms have been used to great effect for self defense.
maybe the general nature of crime in britan is different and guns aren't useful for defending yourself, but i'm not familiar enough with the appropriate knowledge to make any assertions on that.
I almost love your last name Ben
It was a sad day when the MOD decided to stop allowing such magnificent mustaches.
If you watch coloured photograph slideshows from the 2nd boer war, you can see that all sport fabulous moustaches
Well they extinguish anything to do with tradition. Now you got blacks and women as royal guards and officers, half the army being minorities and uniforms looking almost like the US ones. Well what do you expect
Osama Obama it is true. The RUC police force here used to only hire 6 foot or taller men who could beat the shit out of criminals, all be it they were sectarian to Catholics. Now our police force has more small fat women who couldn’t get a sheep out of a bush in my area because they kept running away when the sheep made sudden moves.
10:41 Impressive facial hair.
With facial hair like that a gas mask is of no use.
Thank goodness for uploads on UA-cam: this is the closest one has to a "time machine".
Yes, amazing seen paras and SAS beign deployed on homeland.
"Almost wholly Roman catholic." It's like a Monty Python sketch.
No one expects the Irish Inquisition!
I didn't get it until I heard him say it.
The whole thing seemed like a python sketch to me lol. Their mannerisms, the accent, the choice of words... it legit feels like parody
5:17 - 3:35 Butchery is casually operating
Makes sense since uk is Protestant. And they've been battling since the days of the Spaniards vs the queen.
“Britain’s oldest problem”. As if they had nothing to do with it.
They could always just leave
@@KO_5662 "People should know when they are conquered"
@@bigwezz Nobody in south armagh wanted them here
@@bigwezz and that's why they should leave.
We beat them. Ireland even has a better economy anyway.
@@KO_5662 pretty sure that Ireland doesn't own the northern part of their own island ...
I like how whenever someone is talking and there is a helicopter, the helicopter drowns out the talking.
YeetusД Feetus It’s like whoever spliced this together was a very cheeky little turd
@@askhowiknow5527 I can just imagine "OK, can you stand next to this helicopter that won't be on screen whenever you talk? Thanks. The people at the BBC have been really pissing me off lately".
It was almost literally a constant background noise when I was a child. It's now my version of hippies listening to whale song or forest rains, sends me to sleep.
Arthur Dented
[ASMR] Army Air Corps Helicopter flies around transporting troops around Northern Ireland - No speaking
@@CancerGaming56 ASMR Thirty Years of Continuous Relaxing Helicopter Noise (with occasional gunfire and the noise of some spokesman/politician ranting.
Lived through it, as a catholic my father and uncles were regularly beaten by the RUC. I hated the brits there and I mean hated. But that hatred has gone as I'm alot older now. I'm 61.
The Police back then were worse than a gang. At least a gang doesn't have the weight of the law behind them. So glad things have changed.
At least you still have your hair jj
Hello JJ how is Ireland nowdays and you?
@JJ-sj3ke: The RUC were not "British".
@@paganphil100 the clue is in the name: Royal Ulster Constabulary
This was normal life growing up in Northern Ireland. I was raised in a mixed area but this was not the norm. People of my age, would never want things to go back to "The Troubles".
Im with you 100% mate !
Bout time the younger generation gets into taking on the English. They get the fuck out and it will stop.
Or how about stunting another generation with fictions of an invisible all-seeing all-powerful entity that only Kings and Popes can see, and with promises of jobs and material advantages over their less virtuous fellows if they do as they're told and say their prayers and work hard at school, as part of a nation with an infamous history of brutal oppression and exploitation, in which Irish people have never been treated as the equals of British people no matter how accomplished or precocious they were, whose industry ultimately brings nothing but conflict and ruin, and indeed has led the world into the worst global environmental catastrophe in the history of the human race. Talk about stupid.
@BossmanFromEnds England is the devil to Ireland. All we want is irish unity. the brits better stay out of ireland.
@@josephlambin1209 Are "the English" IN Ireland? Where? Gosh, Joseph, I get the impression that you know almost nothing about this complex situation. Youre not....an American... by any chance. Are you?
10:49 Captin Price makes a cameo
lmfao
The Davies guys reminds of SGT Waters from COD 1
Abraham Ford from the Walking Dead.
He's a sargent....
Hart004 no
It's always interesting, the more into the future we get we look at history with a completely different perception
And how....
That's, why it's important to not judge history by modern standards or in 100 years people, will look down on their previous generations' decisions and in 200 years look down on their previous as well.
@@Ironpancakemoose What the Briti$h did was fcUK'd....again !
@@Ironpancakemoose Hell..i look down on the decisions we are making TODAY!
Kieran Ryan 🇮🇪🇮🇪👍👍👍👋
Did 2 tours, Creggan, Derry early 1970’s. Me. Naive, immature, a child, sheltered life on a farm 2 miles from the nearest village. Read, the Daily Express😨 Thought I was on the right side. Decades later, returned during the peace process. Met victims, ex-paramilitaries etc. Best educational experience of my life.
I visited Derry recently, thought what a beautiful place, green meadows stretching all the way down to the sea. The next day, somebody murdered a journalist during a riot in the Creggan :-(. I decided to go for a pint in the Bobby Sands pub in Belfast - I was too scared to get out of the car. If it was too dangerous for the Army to use the roads of South Armagh, imagine what it was like for the public!
I just finished my history degree in Cork and reading about the conflict was always incredibly depressing because I could not imagine how the soldiers would 1. do the things they did and 2. fall in line when they saw something they objected to. I'm glad to know that some of them learned, even if it is too late to change what happened.
Th@nks for sh@ring. Yee m@de it thru!...;)
Gotz some pretty impressive Pir@te 'Gon st@shes o'oer there. NOW. STILL. R@ise The Red Rooster On The Cloister Roof(sssssss) type of Bl@ck-B@nner ShitStuff. Possess BOTH types of muzik too! ~Gotz n' Flori@n. (Country & Western IF 'eh Blues Brother)
Pepper-Potted those goitered-up scurvy-ridden non-limeys @LL've dhe "Broken Sp@re-P@rts Dept" stuff y@rs b@ck.....
@@helloxyzwhere is the bs pub in Belfast? Never heard of it
@@jackietreehorn5561 On the Falls Road. Looking on GMaps, I can't see any pubs at all - so maybe it was a pub opposite the BS mural, or maybe everything has been rebuilt/changed since I was there.
No one won or lost the Irish troubles, the poor squadie was sent there to protect the Catholics from the prodies originally, Then early on , the whole thing went tits up with the soldier's stuck in the middle and given no clear idea of his role. A lot of good lad's died over there for political reason's.
I amcarbonandotherbits. Well said a bit of honest common sense. There are no winners and the younger generation in Ireland mix in clubs and bars now and couldn't care less about the politics
Scottish piker , Thanks, and all power to the younger generations elbow, I did not know things were going so well over there. Maybe something good did climb out of all that misery after all.
I amcarbonandotherbits. lol I'm
Ain´t it always the squadies and the "collaterals" suffering? Were, are, will be. The fish always starts stinking at the head... Nice post though, I´m totally with You there.
Just to let you know. There was so much collusion between the British soldiers and the loyalists that all it did was make matters worse. Its not possible to defeat a people who's dignity is being taken away. Truth is unless there is some real agreement between the Irish and English as in Britain leave the North there will always be tensions. If its don't through vote then everyone will except it but not through violence.
Unreal some what happened in those days.. and what I'm reading here in comments... I'm from S.Armagh proud to be from and always will!..... I know what it was, and like and what I grew up with in those times... unreal dreadful!!!. that I hope I'll never happen again.
"Britains oldest problem" Hmph cant imagine how or why....
@JoyDivision1976 that explains why they wanted our sunny island of Ireland so much...
I thought drunkenness was the Britains oldest problem.
@JoyDivision1976 mate have u been to ireland recently
Britain couldn't leave even if they wanted to. It's the Unionists who are keeping us there.
@Graham Buckley If the post boxes were repainted, it would most likely done in the colour blue, and that would for all boxes on the island.
"Could you tell our viewers everything you know about the SAS unit that will be coming here, what they will be doing and how they will be doing it?"
@6:45 Guy comes running down the street wearing body armor toting an automatic rifle right past some dude who's just casually washing his car giving zero fucks.
Infact that isnt an automatic rifle, its an L1A1 SLR most likely which was reserved for semi automatic fire only, it was a British design choice used up until they swapped it for the piece of trash we call the L85A1
@@MehdoodaFanNo.1 Could've kept the fal's a bit longer
Life goes on. They knew a) best to stay out of it, and b) it was so common that they would never get anything done if they did this every time a soldier went by. Israel i similar.
@@thursoberwick1948 even if there are snipers and artillery surrounding the city, people would still continue daily business
@@fbiagent9666 The only options were that or go to live elsewhere. It's scary how fast bad or bizarre things become "normal" even when they are unacceptable. You can see that in 2020 and the restrictive measure being brought in just now worldwide like electronic IDs and tracking.
When the police have to be shadowed by the army you know things are bad.
The RUC weren’t like a normal police force.
or good, depending on which side you were on
cool-headed lark you didn’t live there, no they weren’t they were much more brutal and militaristic
@@NapoleonGelignite "Normal" Police forces don;t have to face armed terrorists trying to kill them as they go about their duty, something you left out from your pithy response. I worked alongside the RUC on many occasions over there, I have nothing but admiration for them.
@@johnnysins8053 Lies.
The british army choice of headgear has always been one of their key strenghts.
The underwear is all very Kelvin Kleine though.
@@Blagger3000 that'swhy they got there holes handed to them
@@benbolger147 By who?
Whats the point of the hats? Why aren't they wearing helmets?
@@UrMom-jb7vl Helmets protect against shrapnel but not bullets. No point in wearing helmets on a mission like that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o%27_shanter_(cap)#Military_use
Watching this news as a younger person back in the day I remember when a band called something like the Miami Show Band were killed at a checkpoint and it just broke my heart. They were just living their lives bringing music and fun to all and some thugs just had to kill them for no reason. I still say prayers for those young men to this day.
there's good reason to believe that massacre was carried out under supervision of British military intelligence. Although it was ostensibly carried out by loyalist terrorists, one of the band members who survived overheard a strong English accent at the scene. It may well have been Robert Nairac who was later killed by the IRA in retaliation.
@@4exgold I love the hypocrisy "Loyalist terrorists"
Yet the IRA get called by their acronym.
They were both terrorists, they committed violent acts under political reasoning. Keep up the standard.
@@k.c.o3477 you forgot one tiny little point....the Loyalist terrorists were backed by British military & intelligence.
There's no doubt the Republican terrorists committed awful atrocities. Let's not forget though that it was Catholics being attacked and murdered by British forces that sparked and prolonged the conflict in the first place.
@@k.c.o3477 ira and loyalist is just easier to say then spelling out any of the random acronyms for either sides guerrilla groups makes it simpler for foreigners to follow along
Yes, that wasn't War, it was cold, calculated, premeditated Murder of innocent Roman Catholics. IRA men were fair game imo, shoot to kill, but not members of the public. 🇬🇧 ps Nairac was indeed involved
This where I grew up in the 1970's. Luckily we left when I was still young. It's very weird looking at this now. Seems like a long time ago but can remember it like yesterday simultaneously.
You a protestant or a catholic? Just asking
@@willkp50 you should probably look at his profile picture
@@willkp50 Nowadays probably a muslim
My granny hated the English all her life and would freeze rather then burn English coal in winter..she had to be held back till tv station changed if the Queen appeared on tv station,!!!!! To her the enemy till the hour she passed on..truth... she kept many secrets,being old ira, to the core.. god bless her..
@@karylhogan5758 I think now the people of all four nations should put aside perceived divisions and unite before we are none
Obviously this is not a relaxing topic but I very much like this documentary / report style. It's quite the opposite from the ADHD-laden media / documentary bullshit with soundtracks and shit that is produced today.
You mean propaganda?
Because UK has become the third world. Programs must be catered to them.
@@eldebtor6973 Nah, you've always been a shit nation and people
@@jw5931 You must be a nice chap
Agreed. I liked the way the hanging photos faded as the presenter walked by them. None of the wacky graphics as ypu mentioned. No nonsense reporting.
Great video. Never forget the past. Embrace the future together.
At the time, this looked like an impossibly ugly insoluble problem. And yet, somehow, a compromise was reached. Makes me a tiny bit more optimistic about humanity's future.
I'm Irish living in England I am disgusted wi the amount of people in the uk that have no idea that there was a full blown war going on just a few miles away
Most Brits give Zero Fucks about your disgust, because its a long gone bit of malarky that got out of hand and is now fixed. So please feel free to continue to be disgusted, frankly no-one will ever notice.
there was a more pressing problem here in 1940, like 900 German bombers flying up the Thames all at once----without warning. The Provos actually Bombed London during WW2 but it never quite made the Worlds Headlines like the London Blitz did, probably something to do with the level of seriousness regarding the total bomb damage.
@rabsmiff The Provos didn't exist until the IRA split of 1969 so they couldn't have bombed London during WW2
@@rabsmiffIt certainly made world headlines it was just so common that nobody really gave a shite
Me: Mexican who has no clue of the impact of The Troubles
UA-cam: Northern Ireland's Troubles in your feed
Que pedo carnal
Batallón de San Patricio 1846-1848 🇲🇽
Maybe you have some Irish in you? Get your DNA checked because UA-cam might have checked it already.
Republican Catholics want a united Ireland but Loyalist Protestants want to stay with England under England rule... both side are to die and killed for what the want, but Religion has nothing to do with why we fight.
You've just got Chiapas and drug lords. Mexican history gives Ireland a run for its money in terms of violence.
The Panarama theme tune really brought back some memories it was a much watched programme in my house growing up.
yeah its pretty intense.
And Weekend World on a Sunday lunchtime too. Recently discovered the theme tune is 'Nantucket sleigh ride' by Mountain.
Me too
Spent every summer in Newtown Hamilton in the early 90’s. It was very safe and friendly and deadly dangerous at the same time. Never experienced anything like it.
Fascinating slice of history. Tragic also. Both sides doing their best in striving for a cause they truly believed in. I served 16 years in the Army but also had many Republican friends from my time at Queens University Belfast. The film Harrys Game probably sums it up best. If it's worth dying for, it's worth living for.
Don't fucking romanticize terrorism.
@@johnroscoe2406 Fighting for freedom from foreign oppression is the most noble deed
@@danlugo4365 even if that were what they were really doing, which it wasn't, there's a right way and a wrong way. What did Mountbattens kids and grandkids do? What did the other people on the boat do? You're a naive fool.
@@johnroscoe2406 Foreign soldiers supporting an apartheid state, a literal "protestant land for a protestant people" where Catholics were literally shot dead for marching for basic civil rights. What would you do in that situation? The principal of fighting a foreign occupation is as noble as it gets. The execution is another matter.
@@danlugo4365 Your propaganda is not an argument.
Decades of watching Python has ruined my brain. I keep expecting to see John Cleese walk into frame selling an albatross.
Flying Thompson’s Gazelle of the Yard?!
A documentary of great historical value.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left"
14:00 "We have very good cooperation with the Gardoy ...."
And the Gardoy have very good cooperation with the Brotish Armoy.
😂😂😂
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"Oldest British problem" - conquering Ireland :D
@Flim Flam looks like the Brits were no match even for the drunk Irish.
Well, Ireland was already fully under English control by the time that the UK came into being; so conquering Ireland was never a *British* problem. Before that, English control over the region ebbed and flowed for several centuries, mainly due to England's ongoing involvement in wars over far richer territories in France- and not any particularly stiff resistance to invasion.
why would you want the grey miserable hole?
British until i die
@Iamdmonah 322 never surrender
RIP to those that lost their lives in this tragic tragic conflict. Every time i read up on this the young age of those murdered in cold blood sends pure shivers from my heart, i hope we can all live in peace on this earth forever more! Regardless of your religion. ☺️🙏
@Dark Shield I think you actually mean "people" and their inability to truly empathize/talk to one another will ensure that we will never have such a world. Plenty of people through history started bloody conflicts who dont come into those categories. The root of the problems that caused the Troubles date all the way back to the roman invasion.
wasnt a religious conflict, religion is just a tool used to divide folx when everyone shouldve been fighting against britain and capitalism like the IRA was
@@allgodsnomasters2822 while I get why people dislike capitalism as a system due to its ability to turn into Corporatism, its flaws extend from the ignorance of the population. For example, if the majority of the people had a fundamental grasp of economics, had the ability to account for their own biases, had a reasonable amount of knowledge regarding world history, and took a more active part in not only elections but all aspects of politics capitalism would be a near perfect system.
Religion, much like any social division be it race, political leanings, or nationality, can be used to foster resentment by those with dishonest/evil intentions in addition to the positives it brings to society.
Im not to sure how many actual IRA members would have said they were fighting against capitalism. English yes, but capitalism...
This problem has NOTHING to do with religion. Never did.
@@darraghcodd3575 Ulster Protestants aren't they like totally British óró Unionist and Loyalist
Everyone's gangster till they go to South Armagh
Well. There was plenty of gangstars there.
proud that my father was born there... right above the border
It's a minefield as a foreigner to have an opinion concerning the situation i Northern Ireland.
Went there last year, and it is an....
unusual experience.
I met people from both communities and was overwhelmed by honest hospotality.
I wish the six counties all the best, regardless of which way you choose to go.
And I will be back....
Are you saying they're both wrong? How dare you 😤 😭 lol
It's pretty simple, do you support imperialism and ethnic cleansing of the native people of the land or do you not?
11:55 "You got a licence for that bread mate?"
Haha, tickled me.
My dad got arrested and held for two days over being stopped with a boot full of out of date loaves of bread to feed to his chickens. It was literally “Who’s all this bread for?”
@@jimohara Yeah but did he have a licence for the bread?
Nice counterpoint to cosy 1970s nostalgia. It was really bleak back in those days. Let's hope NI stays peaceful and prosperous evermore.
It's like people saying that the 1940's were simpler, safer times.
No, they weren't. Have a look at the blitzed cities of Britain and Europe and tell me that's somewhere you would want to live. Well, go live in Aleppo then, it's like that now!
The irony with the 60s is that it was a deliberately colourful decade but much of the mass media, both TV and film, were in black and white. The 1970s were beige and grey (and for most of the time, there was an atmosphere of depression, both economic and social)- and yet the mass media were now in colour.
Peaceful? , there’s more dissident republican attacks in Northern Ireland that Muslim attack in the uk, our trouble just gets swept under the carpet
It will never be either!
The conflict isn't even near to the end...
Stig Martin I do live here and I can tell you other than a few scum drug dealer shootings, it’s peaceful. Considering what it used to be
The time when the BBC was a genuine news channel, with Panorama as it's flagship current affairs programme..
How times have changed!
Easy now. Thats pushing it.
The BBC is British monarchy state propaganda.
Jimmy Saville started at BBC in 1968......
Who cares how about talk about the subject? Always murdering Always colonizing talk about that you toothless Bru ish 😂
Back when there was actual conversations with Politicians and they actively explained themselves and their ideas. What happened to politics.
my god look at it now , labour , the torys just waffling , i am old enough to remember all of this , my god they have succeeded in dumbing every thing down , i know your comment is two years old but have a look out your window now , were bloody imbeciles that have been brainwashed out of any logical thinking
I was just thinking that. I reckon people would have an easier time engaging with politics and strategy if politicians just spoke in plain terms instead of the meaningless waffle we get today. Everything has to be sugarcoated so that there’s no possible way for the opposition to get a good sound bite. The result is s a lot of words spoken but ultimately nothing said.
I’m no conspiracist but the news and politicians definitely speak to the public like they’re children.
It's probably took on with the rise of Neo-liberalism
these guys won so theystopped having to talk
With more women in power and men increasingly victimised for speaking their minds, is it any wonder we're in an age of rampant subterfuge and "wrongthink" getting severely punished, causing politicians to hunker down and learn how to play the media and the (simply idiotic and complacent) general public to such a degree that even though we complain, they still do what they want?
5:54 The Joker makes his appearance
Holy shit
Some men just wanna see the world burn.
😂😂😂
Da fuk
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
08:25 that old tech microphone makes the helicopter sound like 'chitty, chitty, bang, bang.' Hahaha.
$pot on man
@@johnmiller7408 You're over thinking it man... It's a joke... SMH
12 men acting outrageous, and around 30 doing terror.
And he believed it would take an additional 4 battalions of 600 men a piece, to combat these around 42 men..
42 vs 3000
lol
Your maths is as poor as your comprehension.
@ceciljohnrhodes4987
It is very easy to look up. But I guess you don't wish to look foolish
My Grandfather left Northern Ireland in 1915. He joined the British Army and then went to France when it was a total meat grinder. From what me Mom told me he said what's the difference either getting killed by Irish bullets or German bullets. He was gassed in France and then eventually came to Canada. He died in 1933 probably from drinking.
Northern Ireland didn't exist in 1915.
@@Macca1000001 the treaty was a disaster
@@Macca1000001 some people like a good old lie though.
@@jackietreehorn5561 there was no treaty in 1915...
Probably in a Irish pub there .
Here in South America, Chile and Argentina, we had their own "dirty war back in the 1970's ", just like in "The Bandit Country". In Chile, specifically, we had our own rebel group named " Frente Patriótico Manuel Rodríguez" (FPMR), named after one of our national heroes in the independence war against Spain, back in the XIX century. There´s a legend that the IRA trained some chilean guerrilla figthers, but it has never been proved. Now, Ireland is in peace, and is the fastest growing economy in Europe. "Peace, is the supreme victory of a warrior..."
Fernando Esteban Zuñiga Andrade ... The IRA traded their “training capabilities” to several groups globally in exchange for introductions in the global terror and criminal underworld. In the case of South America they gave training at certain camps in exchange for intros and arrangements with major narco- groups.
In the Gulf War infrared beam triggers for IEDs were seen many times ... the IRA had taught this to the PLO and other groups for years beforehand in exchange for various materials and access to key networks. The PLO and others (at camps in N Africa, various parts of Asia and the Middle East) then passed this training on to several other groups ... AQ and all its successors being one set.
All on wiki ..
NI is british
No that's ireland. It was all about northern Ireland and their economy is doing very badly right now.
‘Ireland unfree shall never be at peace’. We still must liberate our brothers and sisters in the north of Ireland. 🇮🇪❤️🇨🇱
I saw one of them pir laser beams set off an EFP that blew a Sgt head off and blew the driver arm and leg off, the motherfuckers
5:26....Dog says to human "What the hell are you lot playing at?"
Nay, the guy just blocked the dog's toilet.
And to think we judge them for eating their own shit! Pretty harmless, really.
Soldier was next to a meat shop. Thought he was buying some meat so the doggo asked some from him.
My family are from bandit country and I’m very proud of the fact.
Well good for you. I’m from the mainland and Protestant and have zero animosity towards you. I’m 52 and worked at Aldergrove twice (for many months) during my civvy work over 36 years. I would love to take everyone in NI to London for a week, there isn’t any friendly waves, nobody says hello. You people in NI don’t realise how wonderful you’re country is. I know the Belfast stare....seen it a thousand times. Just smile, it ain’t worth it. Anyway the last time I was over there you don’t have a Brit problem, even I saw the Chinese now taking the piss.
Francesc Xavier Bultó you live on the “mainland”? Would you say that to someone who lived in France? I don’t think you would. To the people of the North of Ireland you live in Great Britain, not the mainland. Zero animosity? You are deliberately employing micro-aggression.
@@jackduncan4228 Micro aggression.....pretentious wank.
Knob!
@@francescxavierbulto9848 That's a helluva user name for a protestant
The old cortina was popular there all over the place 👤
@GMF Nothing wrong with a Mondeo. Even better in just about every way.
cant believe we lived through this and managed to grow up as we did
I'm English but visited Ireland once, lovely country, lovely people. Thank God this nonsense is (largely) over.
@DMo86 please god you're wrong
It was going good for 18 years until a certain referendum in Britain came along.
The British loyalists will always cause trouble in Ireland. Wait until they lose a border poll.
Yea but the brits will screw it up as usual. Just give them some time
we are all friendly as long as you don't mention politics
Had the pleasure of visiting South Armagh just this year, in 2023. The lady at the coffee shop in Crossmaglen was kind despite my English accent, and a distant family friend further north in Newry recalled his life during the troubles. I even found some old green army jackets in my closet... yikes.
As a 1981 born boy from north Monaghan, lots of this resonates with me. I think it resonates with all of us from that time and place. Some more than others.
But the quality of news broadcasting is so plain, reasonably balanced and interesting
It resonates that you didn't exist?
@@bobbyfischer6786 yep. I was there behind the scenes in every clip of that report. Amszing
Harold Wilson is surprisingly well spoken and charismatic.
Why surprisingly, he was a great politician and Prime minister of his time ,a true labour man
@@raymondsawyer8626 Now Labour is run by closet Tories who hate the working class people of Britain.
Back when we had real politicians , not globalist banker frontmen
Apparently also a great intellect, but with short socks @28:20, as suited to an intellectual.
Aaaah, this brings back memories. I went to a staunch catholic school in Newry, with lots of lads there from Cross/Cullyhanna - word got out that my old man was ex-Army. Learnt to fight to a decent standard pretty quickly!
Similar story here. Dad was ex army, mother from a pro IRA family. I had an English accent and went to a Catholic school. Tough times, but you grow up learning to have tough skin.
Grew up in Glasgow eith a catholic mum I know how you feel.
Wish I had my SLR I loved her
Jack Wills that’s why we have the 2nd amendment in the USA to keep king George,s bastards out,
I just like my uncle Sam
He let's me know just who I am
almost 50 years later and I still eye bikes-with-no-riders and abandoned items on the pavement, with suspicion
You could call it a kind of PTSD
Good. brits had no business in ireland.
@@libertyrevolutionary1776
I agree
You're most welcome to the place
The northern Ireland conflict will always be a strange one to me..... and this is coming from a serbian haha!
Basically more people talking religion for more than it is, a way to teach less evolved people how to live in society like a good citizen and cope with death. Problem is people like to abuse and corrupt the power over people that it gives. Pretty much Jihad summed up. Bunch of people who are lost and someone comes along and gives them a "purpose" with the use of religion, the problem is the jihad leaders don't actually care about religion and it's basically one giant cartel cult. Actually the same reason people join the military, want to feel they have a purpose bigger than themselves.
@Smattless ... by executing civilians because they are different than you?
Microtransaction it actually had more to do with a United Ireland than religion. The unionists were just afraid of persecution by the Irish government as unionists were mostly Protestant
Europe needs another Milosevic more and more.
The stranger thing is considering why its strange to you considering the fact you basically had this x100 about 3 decades ago.
as a kid growing up in Yorkshire UK during the 70's Ireland was something that was on TV but as you get older and realise just what a warzone it was it's crazy to think this was happening so close yet seemed as far away as Beruit.Ethiopia or South africa the other places on the news when I was a kid...I do remember getting into proper trouble at school for telling the class that we are not the 'goodies' and shouldnt be there lol.....
No one were the goodies, There were bad people on both sides, and obviously good people. Both sides are painted with the deeds of the bad people by the other side.
Haatchii
Lets face it us ( the Brits ) shouldn't have been there in the 1st place..We did our classic 'divide and conquer' thing we did in Africa,india and Isreal only it was not as eazy to ignore on our doorstep....
HULL GRAFFITI I could not imagine one person reading your word and still feel hate in his heart. Your words are so humble. I see a bit of myself in you as a kid and still today. Not afraid to tell it as it is.. Much love to you Hull..please don't change. :)
You have no idea what you are talking about.
We were definitely not in the wrong in the troubles, the PIRA put bombs in pubs and marathons, but that is fine.
We did commit atrocities such as bloody sunday, but the difference between bloody sunday type events and purposefully putting bombs in pubs in an area that has no relevance to your cause, is pretty substantial.
Haatchii its war and yes there are no such things as the goodies but there is the right and there is the wrong. you invade a country your going to have people trying to kill you
My family came from Newry and the people in that area are nice. I visited my cousins in 1994 and did a car ride through this very area. There was a cease fire at the time. I saw some armed men but the British didn’t go into the area when I was there. In Crossmaglen there is a statue to the IRA in the town square. I saw soldiers in Belfast but not in Crossmaglen.
Aye , That's because the brits were terrified of the IRA sniper's in Crossmaglen or as republicans call South Armagh ' God's Country ' . Tiocfaidh Ar La...!! Eire Nua , Saoirse !!
They were there, helicopters was the mode of transport used by the British army because travelling by road would leave the army open to attack and bombs ignited by remote control e
@@raymondsawyer8626 They should not have been there in the first place , That goes for all the other countries the Brits invaded but it was the Irish who fought back and gained a Republic for it. One day it will be 32 Eire !!
@@MarkG-f7v it's inevitable that time will come, but I hope with all my heart it is a non violent peaceful transition and the hatred and division disappears for ever
@@raymondsawyer8626 Aye , I hope for the same...My country has seen too much sectarianism and blood spilt . As the great Wolfe Tone said ' Protestant , Catholic and Dissenter...!!
They say that the ghost of Robert Nairac still walks around the lanes of South Armagh. Dressed as s transient forever trapped in Erin, he will always be the enigms that never got home
@@scotland638 pronouns, dear boy 🏴
Operation Flavius 🤣 👍
My mother is from Armagh, she lived just outside Crossmaglen. I heard stories of my dad travelling to her having to deal with border checks and harassment. When I was young we travelled through Crossmaglen a lot and and the barracks is still there with the marks of petrol bombs. Never understood why they were there because I was young, the town was so quiet and it never seemed like what had gone on all those years before actually happened.
anything to get that cat my friend...
@@waleed8530 - Yeah that's my aul doll you're on about
@@waleed8530 What a pig, you are. Show some respect
....It's also very strange seeing a Politician of any persuasion, let alone the British PM talking like a real human being in an interview!!
And actually answering questions! We peaked... and now on the decline..
Harold was one of our best.
Real interesting seeing your home in a documentary. I'm from South armagh, right outside crossmaglen
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I recall all this footage i was 13 yrs old living in Dublin it was always on the news . my uncle lost a friend in the bombing of dublin city after this happened you would walk around a car with northern plates or change to the other side of the road and bomb scares in town where another freak out scoffing down that ice cream before ya had to run to a safe place . I never left a 99 flake ever in all bomb scares to rare to leave !
“Britain’s oldest problem” hmmmmmm
mr sloth oldest current problem. What would you consider it it?
@@bennathan7353 oldest current problem? You havnt heard of covid - 19?
mr sloth yes I’ve heard of it, it’s not very old
mr sloth I think you misunderstood the difference between oldest and biggest, look it up
@@bennathan7353 I'm not sure what your trying to get at, my original comment was about how the journalist stated it was "Britain oldest problem" but failed to mention it was Britain's fault.
Thanks for posting this documentary. Been listening to BBC here in the US for many years. This shows life at the time and the conflicts and the reasons for them are quite interesting, from the troubles on.
BBC is a biased bitter propaganda machine
@@pauloneill914 I know that. I listen to it for information on other countries. When Alan Kasuje visited California he went to UC Irvine to talk to students. UCI is one of the most liberal schools in our state.
@@jackietreehorn5561 Yep, those of us with intelligence are outnumbered by the dimwits in Sacramento
@@stevenhulbert7540 Arnold is the governator
The BBC has completely changed from what it was back in the 1970s as this programme aptly demonstrates.
Thanks for reply, shame, tried looking for it too, no luck. Thanks for this upload.
Wow look at what real reporting and journalism is, props to the PM too for defending his position, only if more dialogue in politics today was like this, just the situation at the time was horrendous
Makes a mockery of today’s -politicians
Was watching german Hip Hop videos and youtube recoomended this video for me. I am a little bit confused but I now know about the conflict in northern ireland from the 1970s. Awesome!
If this is all you know about it then take it from me, you know nothing.
@Michael Halligan Non Irish Protestant's ........so if someone was born in Ireland, has lived in Ireland all of his life and so has his family before him for 400 years he or she is not Irish?
16:59 what’s the point of applying camouflage face paint with hair that ginger?
@Novitrix Ain't gonna help ya when you get shot by an Irish with an AK & ski mask
ginger is the natural camouflage in Ireland
Looks more like he fell asleep drunk on watch and the other lads decided to draw on his face with a sharpie
You then put on a head covering.
@@TypicalFrogman what about when he runs into a battalion of para's with SLR'S
With the benefit of hindsight we can say with some certainty that the Labour government of the late 1960s managed to turn a minor but largely legitimate civil rights movement in Ulster into a civil war through a combination of ignorance and negligence. When the 'troubles' first started I, as a thirteen year old, asked a friend of mine who came from Ulster what was going on. Of course, he couldn't explain it to me in terms that I could understand and he couldn't explain it without being partisan anyway. In this I was no different to the vast majority of people, of all ages, on the mainland and he was no different to the vast majority of people from Ireland, both North and South.
However, in the course of our discussion he mentioned to me, in an entirely offhand manner, that his father had six votes in every general election. I was incredulous. Six votes? ... How could that be legitimate? Even at the age of thirteen I knew all about the principle of one man, one vote. He told me that in Ulster, you had a vote in every constituency in which you owned property. It never even occurred to me to enquire whether his father was a protestant or a catholic, a Republican or a Unionist, so deep was my ignorance on the subject. All I knew was that for one man to have six votes was undemocratic and unfair.... and if people were demonstrating against such injustice, then they had perfectly legitimate cause for complaint. Further investigation showed that the civil rights movement was also complaining about injustice in housing and employment and they seemed to have legitimate cause for complaint about that as well... and if I had known what gerrymandering was as a thirteen year old I would have thought even less of the system of governance in Ulster at the time. Moreover, the problems seemed to be inextricably linked with a history of which I, and most other people on the mainland, were entirely ignorant, but seemed to be tied in, for some peculiar reason, with whether one was protestant or catholic, whatever that might mean. Religion was not, then as now, a topic of hot conversation among teenagers, or indeed, anybody else in mainland Britain, so why it should be an issue in Ulster was incomprehensible to us.
Unfortunately, the Labour government that Harold Wilson led did nothing to address the issues raised by the civil rights movement, leaving the 'problems' to be dealt with by the devolved Ulster government in Stormont, in a complete dereliction of obvious duty and a failure to recognise that what they were actually doing was leaving the 'problems' to be dealt with by the very people who were responsible for the 'problems' in the first place and had no intention of resolving any of them in any spirit of democracy or, indeed, at all.
The result was inevitable: A slow descent into a quarter of a century of minor civil war. Of course, if you happen to be caught up in a civil war, it isn't particularly minor. In fact, if you happen to be one of the dead, then there's nothing minor about it at all, is there?... and it could have all been so easily avoided at the start, by simply addressing the issues raised by the civil rights movement and applying the same principles of ordinary democracy that applied everywhere else in the United Kingdom and ensuring that the people, all the people, of Ulster had the same rights and privileges as each other, as they would have in any normal democracy. That was, and still is, a perfectly legitimate aspiration for any society and it lay within the purview of Harold Wilson's government to bring it about. Their failure to do so condemned them utterly. Of course, the Unionists would have complained. The Paisleyites and loyalists would have shrieked of treachery, but their complaints could have been answered with the perfectly reasonable and entirely true response that all the British government was doing was ensuring that all of Her Majesty's subjects throughout the United Kingdom would have the same rights and privileges as each other.
The hand washing indulged in by Harold Wilson at the end of this documentary would have shamed Pontius Pilate and entirely encapsulated the supreme inactivity and abject failure of his government to do anything positive at all to address or even recognise the reality of the situation his government negligently created in Ulster. They were the guilty party and should be condemned as such. It lay within their purview to do the right thing and stop the problem before it got started and they did......precisely nothing.
I don't have fault with the vast majority of what you say, however "ensuring that all of Her Majesty's subjects throughout the United Kingdom would have the same rights and privileges as each other." The point is that Northern Ireland was protestant thanks to British history and british policy remained very pro protestant in the tiny state. Those with any power and influence in NI were protestants and they enjoyed the status quo. It sounds wrong because it is wrong, but the fact remains, providing very strict equal oppurtunites to protestants and catholics would have eventually dissolved the Northern Irish state and the protestants would have eventually found themselves in the minority and been chased out. The army being sent in just collapsed the trust on all sides, and the politicians none willing to fall on their sword or stake their career on a permanent solution - same as today cos there is none.
What an excellent and thoughtful post. I enjoyed reading it.
Your ignorance to the situation in the north of Ireland shines through when you refer to it as Ulster. Ulster is one of four provinces in Ireland, it is made up of nine counties, six of which are occupied by Britain. Secondarily, your reference to “the mainland.” The north of Ireland is not some 3 acre holm from which the inhabitants nip over to the mainland to buy cigarettes and sheep dip. A great many people here do however “nip” across the so called border for work in Dundalk, Dublin, Donegal and many other places on the “mainland.”
long post but you aren't a history or politics guy
@@collienoo Than what does RUC stand for? Or UVF.
I’m surprised the soldiers are not carrying web gear, no extra magazines or gear
The irony of send in the Scots to deal with the UK’s oldest problem. Sending in Scots was in large part the cause the Northern Ireland problem.
How?
@@sampsonofrock Plantation of Ulster by mainly Scots eventually led to the partition of Ireland.
It wasn't just the Scots
@@sampsonofrock plantations in Ulster were done by the scots,
@@james4319 mainly the scots
The Tracking on screen was a throwback 😂
I was looking for a bit of folded up paper to clean the heads... ;-)
10:46 that is the most ally tash I’ve ever witnessed 👏🏻
And its on his neck lol
It’s bright orange!
MB 1892 NI was a peak in allyness for the army
That’s a first one what does ally mean and what country are you from lol
Well,that`s new.I always thought,Bandit Country means the London Financial District.
8:21 I thought the British Army stopped enlisting 12 year-old kids back in the 19th century!
Lol, he is a lot older than he looks
You were allowed on the front lines at 17 until 3 young Scott's got executed while in civies.
I was in the army there. West Belfast was all aggro. In your face. Tensions. Spitting. Verbals. Rifles fists swinging after dark. South armagh different. Locals looked through you like you weren't there. And unlike rest of PIRA. They are warriors down there.
8:18
He looks about 12!
nah, 16 + at least
*surpresses the urge to kill the youngling*
18 at least this is 1976 after the 3 soldiers were kidnapped and killed 2 brothers one was 17, that was 72 I think, they raised the age to 18
Just a boy.
He was playing conkers yesterday, now he has a belt fed machine gun. Probably.
That's interesting. But there's one thing I want to know. Why is the battalion commander wearing a huge tea cake on his head ?
I have lived most of my life between the land of Ireland and the land of England, Scotland and Wales. Growing up in the 1980s these places were at war no mistaking it. I'm very lucky for where I grew up.
Don't sound very lucky.
@@derekcollins1972 No bombs on my streets or bullets flying thankfully.
@@derekcollins1972 Do you remember The Pools? Newspaper gambling I think
@@patkelly3966 No I don't remember that,but I do remember it being on the news every night.Im glad it's over.
@@derekcollins1972 Me too
To say these were sad times for all involved is an understatement. Be you form whatever side or even just a bystander court up in this tragedy. The real tragedy is some have not learnt from the tragic past. There were so many mistakes made on both sides lets hope this happen again. Don't remember this is a victory or a loss, Remember it as the tragedy for all that it was.
Not sad for the British, the British paramilitaries funded by their government had free reign to do whatever they wanted and they did, so they had a great time
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I love the soldier sprinting down the road. Is he trying to catch the bus?
The join: He's more likely trying not to get shot......this isn't the place to casually stroll around.
So would you if you want to make a harder target to hit.
The irony of British soldiers going to a foreign land and call the people fighting them terrorists. 😂😂
MI5 was also heavily involved in NI but you never hear much about that.
Well you wouldn't would you. Although there is another side to this. I was reading a book about the UVF and there was a quote from policeman saying more police were assigned to investigate the Yorkshire Ripper than were put onto the UVF.
People think that the loyalists were on the same side as the RUC and British forces. That's partly true, but loyalists have been known to fight the police on many occasions, and some of them kept suspecting that they would be jettisoned off at some point.
They did get a few "touts" in the IRA, notably so called "Steak Knife", but it was very difficult for the RUC to have agents in the IRA. That had to be left to British intelligence, as they would have better financial inducements and surveillance equipment.
And?????
@@auxiliary4023 What more is there to say?????
"The Gard-eye..."
o)
"Are we going in Sneaky 'Peeky' like- Or are we Rushing in?"
They had the SAS and Light Infantry doing covert operations out there for years, they always did!
When your hiding from someone but the dog gives you away 5:26
What is interesting, is the L1A1 SLR rifles in camo pattern.
When I was in cadets older cadets used to d.p.m there 58 webbing lol
0:55 Northern Ireland isn't Ulster. Ulster is an Irish Provence made up of 9 Counties, 6 of which make up Northern Ireland. The English and the Protestants from Northern Ireland think wrongly that Northern Ireland is Ulster. The Hound of Ulster would have driven out those invaders and occupiers.
Not the English fool the British not the same thing ask the Scots here if they are English.
@DMo86 doesn't make it factually correct though does it?
Only recently visited Crossmaglen, from living in north armagh love it feel at home here strange ano but the people are so friendly n fearless in every way, I'd buy a home here in a heart beat.
The gaurdeye, they must be new.....
I have family living in South Armagh. From what I have heard and read. The region was in kept in a permeant lawless uproar.
Cross border banditry, cattle rustling, and smuggling were rampant and daily occurrences. The most horrible atrocities were the sectarian murders.
Each side provoking each other into greater atrocities. And the civilians caught in the middle. Many of the sectarian attacks committed by both sides were largely motivated by the fact it was simpler and easier to murder Catholic and protestant civilians than to hunt down and engage members of the other paramilitaries
When people put on the uniform sadly in the north the were automatically a target....sad reality and horrible time in Irish history
The PIRA did not target civilians. The UVF, UDA and other loyalist groups did. If you were at all familiar with NI you would have known this.
@@kosmokritikos9299 Kingsmill massacre? Eilskillen bombing? Bloody Friday?the IRA and the loyalist paramilitaries were nothing more than the gangs of murdering thugs.
Also, why do you believe that this is a religious conflict? That is also a clear indication that you are absolutely clueless. This is a foreign occupation of a sovereign nation. It is not, Not, NOT, "I hate you because you don't go to my church."
@@kosmokritikos9299 okay the people murdered in Kingsmill were protestant textile workers not soldiers or police. The sole survivor was a Catholic. While there were notable exceptions the majority of the division was based on sectarian lines. I never said it was a solely religious conflict. "Foreign occupation" Northern Ireland remained part of the UK under the treaty signed in 1921 by a democracitcly elected Irish government. The border poll in 1971 showed that 99% voted to remain in the United Kingdom. Democracy for all its flaws is the best solution. Not living under the terriosts.
My dad is from Armagh, I remember going up there on holidays every year and seeing those soldiers everywhere hiding, one of them pointed his gun at me I was about 6 or 7 years old
disgusting behaviour from those pigs.
Derry Girls sitcom is worth a look: behind the humour, there are some brilliant points about the Troubles.
Great show that.