Had a senville leto 24,000 since Feb, works good. If you have a freon leak problem in the future, be good idea to vacumn system down before refilling unit, as moisture in freon system will cause big problems over time! A bender for freon lines is a necessary tool they don't tell you about either. As far a temp of the unit, remote has a "follow me" feature, that remote becomes the thermostat for unit. Place it in line of sight of inside unit and leave it pointing at unit all the time, prop it up to where it pointed at unit and it will maintain temperature wherever remote is placed. They don't explain that feature in manual very well!
it has to be vacuumed down to get moisture out of line. the refrigerant is not inside the copper lines. It is RELEASED into the copper lines from the outside unit.
I also purchased a Senville from Ebay. It is a 36000BTU Artic Series here in Canada.. It is also the Aura Series. I installed it myself, this summer (2023) took some work but not too bad. Have used it a few times for the AC, and dam it works good, dam cold. Just on 20% fan speed, it is super quiet and it blew about 20 feet, right into the center of the living room. The house has a large vaulted ceiling about 15oo square feet. It was so cold, I couldnt run it ever more than about 30 minutes at 30+ C outside, Tried the heat function one morning, and super quick, and darn warm. I had it turned to just 70. The reason for the install was to save some dam money on power consumption...well we will see. So far..I highly recommend!!
If you get your ODP Certification (Ontario/Canada) or EAP608 (USA), Senville will honor full warranty with a self install. Its a 300 online course in Ontario, definitely worth it. Just bought the same unit for my new garage going up at the end of the month.
@@Jon-hx7pe ya, I called there Canadian office and sales transferred me to their technical support team and he told me to write my ODP Certification number in the HVAC license number section of the warranty card. If you look at the law and during the training it explains that even licensed HVAC cannot release/charge or work/handle/purchase controlled refrigerant without the seperate certification. Definitely call and verify for yourself though. I cannot speak to other manufacturers, but this is what Senville Canada told me.
I got a 24000 refurbished unit cheap and so far no issues other than the Alexa smart control USB seems to be an issue. I don't think the issue is the mini split but Alexa. I just gave up on it and use the remote. I'll be interested to see what my electric bill will be. Kind of nervous about that part as we head into heating season.
chasing the charge! thats great on new construction from the 1980s when the call backs will be from some other guy a few years down the road. If youre going to spend the money on a new system, 1) find an hvac friend that has a vacuum pump, the license doesnt matter if you dont know what youre doing, license doesnt give you skill!!! 2) nitrogen leak check 3) bring a damn vacuum pump, 4) run 10' of lineset minimum, 5) use the vacuum pump or find a new hvac "buddy" , 6) youtube is not always your friend 7) if your "buddy" used the flare fittings, make sure he re-flared them, factory flares suck, use Nylock, use the torque wrenches, and read the damn book!! Senville has a great product, as an actual hvac guy, I installed them on my 5th wheel camper, operates flawlessly looking good and operating good are 2 separate things, your buddy did you no favors
You are absolutely correct he did not do me any favors. I wish he would've at least ran a vacuum pump thru or told me he didn't have one before he came out. I may go ahead before I really fire up the air conditioner and hire a professional to come out and check it just to be safe. They are nice units and the last thing I want are issues. Thanks for stopping by, I appreciate your information!!
I was an HVAC technician in the military and I pulled a vacuum on my mini split when I installed it. I used a cheap vacuum pump that I bought on Amazon. The one mistake I made was I disconnected the hose from the service port BEFORE I released the refrigerant into the lines. I don't know if any air and moisture got into the lines or not but so far it is working fine. My guess is some outside air got sucked into the lines while I was unscrewing the fitting but hopefully it wasn't a lot.
Thanks for the video!! One question, how well is that room insulated? In interested in installing the same unit but I'm in a cabin slightly bigger but a 20 foot ceiling. Thanks for any info. (Retired cop from Illinois now in SE Tennessee.)
Hi your very welcome! My room is insulated fairly well, however my one wall has a garage door. I am in the process of taking out the garage door and building a wall with a window. This unit should heat your cabin just fine.
That was the location I chose to mount it. We have lots of snow in the winter. it needed to be up off the ground. Thanks for commenting and thanks for stopping by!!
@@Turninstones I believe pdnhsa was referring to the clearance between the outside unit and the wall that it's hung on and not the height of the installed unit. The height looks good. There's a minimum clearance between the wall and the back of the unit that must exist so proper air flow exists. It's hard to tell from the video but it looked like the back of the unit sits really close to the wall. However, not pulling a vacuum to begin with is most likely your performance issue. Pulling a vacuum is required for all mini splits except for those that come with a pre-charged line set like the Mr. Cool units. When air and other contaminants are left in the line, this definitely affects the performance and maybe the life of the unit itself. Hopefully you did a leak check by spraying the connections with soapy water or store bought leak check fluid to identify any refrigerant loss. You still might do the leak check again to verify you might not have a small refrigerant leak. Best bet though, get a real HVAC guy to take a look at it (you might already have done that). Even if he recommends doing a costly refrigerant replacement because of the contaminated non-vacuumed line set it might be worth it. If you do bring in a HVAC guy, do another video, we'd love to hear the outcome. Thank for this video.
@@michaely1164 I have about 6" clearance on the back of the outside unit. The Senville wall bracket doesn't give you much option to expand. I was out as far as it would allow me. That being said, I have had zero issues. Its run awesome and so far I have no complaints.
I have about 6" clearance on the back of the outside unit. The Senville wall bracket doesn't give you much option to expand. I was out as far as it would allow me. That being said, I have had zero issues. Its run awesome and so far I have no complaints.
Hi, you have a main wire that comes with your Senville mini split, it connects the outside unit to the inside unit. Then you connect a separate wire (Sold separately). It connects from the outside unit to your electrical breaker/ shutoff box which should be mounted near the outside unit.. I used 10/3 and ran it from my shut off box Then to my my main fuse box. Hope this helps.
Senville units come precharged with 25 ft worth of refrigerant. Standard lineset is 16 ft and yours looks like 16 ft. Your neighbor likely use some refrigerant to flush out the air from your lines and indoor unit. That's likely why your system runs okay. For sure not as good as running vacuum but it did the trick. Anyone agree?
@@GaHullbillyRanch The seer rating on my unit is 21.5. Running a 2-ton central air or mini-split air conditioner will use anywhere between 0.96 kWh and 1.71 kWh per hour (depends on the SEER rating).
I know one of your viewers mentioned it,however I want to point out again the condenser unit that contains the refrigerant is separated from the evaporator inside your home with all the lines you hooked up that came with the unit that is all open to oxygen and that is required to remove. Why? Because it contains H20 which is corrosive within a sealed system of refrigerant and ultimately will fail sooner than later. Need to vacuum the lines,it is required, all the video’s you pull up show this.
@@Turninstones ya we bought this house in north Texas that has an addition that has an old split unit. So I’m just doing some research. So thanks for responding to me.
Correct he never pulled a vacuum. I am no expert but from what I was told by a different heating and air company is that early on they would just release the refrigerant on new units, but that was years ago. He said the new heating & air techs are trained to pull a vacuum all the time to make sure the lines are clean. I was hoping the original guy I called could've done that, but he didn't even have a vacuum kit. He's old school but I trust his knowledge and knock on wood it hasn't given me any issues as of yet.
@@Jon-hx7pe you are absolutely right. He was just a maintenance person at a school. That's where I messed up, not calling a local reputable hvac service in the first place.
@@turbobob2793 that's not good, especially considering how expensive they are. The other bad thing about Senville is that it's hard finding local HVAC service companies that actually work on them. Hopefully you can get it figured out.
He is a bad refrigeration tehc, You need to pressurize with nitrogen, to check for leak, and helps eliminate humidity that in the pipes. Humidity is the worse enemie of a refrigeration system. And after , you need to do a good vacuum. for a long lasting trouble free mini split.....
Your absolutely right. That particular Senville bracket didn't allow me to come away from the wall as far as I'd liked. I'm only about 6" away , however it's on the North side of the building away from the sun and up off the ground plenty enough to allow ample air flow. I have had the unit a year now and have had zero issues. Thank you for stopping by.
I have senville - support is terrible - unit generated error codes within a month of installation - I should have returned it. 1 year later it is not working - fan stopped - support does not care - will let you suffer in the heat as they drag their feet to send any parts.
Sorry to hear this, my neighbor just went through a similar experience. His started pushing codes. He had 4 different techs from different companies stop out and most didn't want to touch the Senville. Finally he managed to find a tech that knew what they were doing. His ended up being the compressor was bad and he had just installed the unit. Senville tech support said they rarely ever go bad, that said the Senville tech did send him a knew compressor and it works fine now, but what a nightmare. Hope you get your issue figured out soon friend, thanks again for stopping by.
@@Rykersrealm My 10 gauge which I believe is 10-2 was white, black and green. On the outside unit I connected my "white to L1 and black to L2" and I connected my green to the ground on the outside unit under the screw on plate.
I can’t get these guys to ship me the right unit I purchased. I agree service is zero. They make you feel like they’re helping you but in reality it’s zero. Need a vacuum pump in order to get air and moisture out of the lines. I think your buddy couldn’t get his licence renewed instead of letting lapse. Either way he shouldn’t be working on HVAC industry.
Your absolutely right my buddy was the wrong guy to call. Hopefully they get your right unit shipped to you. They have poor customer service. Good luck!!
And then people like this get away with it for years or decades.... by "bleeding" the lines 😂 The rest of the install is just cringe too. The manufacturer/sellers of these things must be absolutely sick of dealing with people like this, because I bet this person here is 90% of there 'warranty' claims.
Had a senville leto 24,000 since Feb, works good. If you have a freon leak problem in the future, be good idea to vacumn system down before refilling unit, as moisture in freon system will cause big problems over time! A bender for freon lines is a necessary tool they don't tell you about either. As far a temp of the unit, remote has a "follow me" feature, that remote becomes the thermostat for unit. Place it in line of sight of inside unit and leave it pointing at unit all the time, prop it up to where it pointed at unit and it will maintain temperature wherever remote is placed. They don't explain that feature in manual very well!
Thank you I appreciate the info. So far the 24,000 is been a great job. Fingers crossed. Thanks for commenting and thanks for stopping by!!
it has to be vacuumed down to get moisture out of line. the refrigerant is not inside the copper lines. It is RELEASED into the copper lines from the outside unit.
I've installed my 9000 BTU Senville Aura Heat pump and so far so good. Did the work myself. Good Job.
I also purchased a Senville from Ebay. It is a 36000BTU Artic Series here in Canada.. It is also the Aura Series. I installed it myself, this summer (2023) took some work but not too bad. Have used it a few times for the AC, and dam it works good, dam cold. Just on 20% fan speed, it is super quiet and it blew about 20 feet, right into the center of the living room. The house has a large vaulted ceiling about 15oo square feet. It was so cold, I couldnt run it ever more than about 30 minutes at 30+ C outside, Tried the heat function one morning, and super quick, and darn warm. I had it turned to just 70. The reason for the install was to save some dam money on power consumption...well we will see. So far..I highly recommend!!
Good to hear. They are nice units and truthfully if your patient doing it yourself can definitely save money. Good luck and thanks for stopping by!!
Nice air flow works up and down and side to side
Thx
I'm running the 18,000 unit in my 400 sqft shop and it runs amazing
@@thefilthelement very nice. They are strong units . Glad to hear yours is working out. I had mine for almost 2 years and haven't had any issues.
If you get your ODP Certification (Ontario/Canada) or EAP608 (USA), Senville will honor full warranty with a self install. Its a 300 online course in Ontario, definitely worth it.
Just bought the same unit for my new garage going up at the end of the month.
Tyler Thank you for the tip. That sounds like a winner to me and it definitely sounds worth looking into.
are you sure they're looking for a odp and not the real 313d or whatever it is called?
@@Jon-hx7pe ya, I called there Canadian office and sales transferred me to their technical support team and he told me to write my ODP Certification number in the HVAC license number section of the warranty card.
If you look at the law and during the training it explains that even licensed HVAC cannot release/charge or work/handle/purchase controlled refrigerant without the seperate certification.
Definitely call and verify for yourself though. I cannot speak to other manufacturers, but this is what Senville Canada told me.
@@Tyler_S86 thanks.
Does this system require a licensed tech or is it DIY?
I got a 24000 refurbished unit cheap and so far no issues other than the Alexa smart control USB seems to be an issue. I don't think the issue is the mini split but Alexa. I just gave up on it and use the remote. I'll be interested to see what my electric bill will be. Kind of nervous about that part as we head into heating season.
How has your electric bill looked?
chasing the charge! thats great on new construction from the 1980s when the call backs will be from some other guy a few years down the road. If youre going to spend the money on a new system, 1) find an hvac friend that has a vacuum pump, the license doesnt matter if you dont know what youre doing, license doesnt give you skill!!!
2) nitrogen leak check 3) bring a damn vacuum pump, 4) run 10' of lineset minimum, 5) use the vacuum pump or find a new hvac "buddy" , 6) youtube is not always your friend 7) if your "buddy" used the flare fittings, make sure he re-flared them, factory flares suck, use Nylock, use the torque wrenches, and read the damn book!!
Senville has a great product, as an actual hvac guy, I installed them on my 5th wheel camper, operates flawlessly
looking good and operating good are 2 separate things, your buddy did you no favors
You are absolutely correct he did not do me any favors. I wish he would've at least ran a vacuum pump thru or told me he didn't have one before he came out. I may go ahead before I really fire up the air conditioner and hire a professional to come out and check it just to be safe. They are nice units and the last thing I want are issues. Thanks for stopping by, I appreciate your information!!
Thanks for the video. Any new updates on the unit?
@@youmakerandom6183 you are very welcome. Senville is running like a champ. I'm definitely due to make a follow up video.
Thank you for the review. It's hard to tell from the video, but how loud is the outdoor unit?
You're very welcome. Truthfully to me is seems pretty quiet. You can hear it , but it's much quieter than my central air unit that runs my house.
I was an HVAC technician in the military and I pulled a vacuum on my mini split when I installed it. I used a cheap vacuum pump that I bought on Amazon. The one mistake I made was I disconnected the hose from the service port BEFORE I released the refrigerant into the lines. I don't know if any air and moisture got into the lines or not but so far it is working fine. My guess is some outside air got sucked into the lines while I was unscrewing the fitting but hopefully it wasn't a lot.
Good to hear and thanks for the great tip about getting a vacuum pump from Amazon. Glad to hear that your unit is running fine still, good luck!!
Thanks for the video!!
One question, how well is that room insulated?
In interested in installing the same unit but I'm in a cabin slightly bigger but a 20 foot ceiling. Thanks for any info.
(Retired cop from Illinois now in SE Tennessee.)
Hi your very welcome! My room is insulated fairly well, however my one wall has a garage door. I am in the process of taking out the garage door and building a wall with a window. This unit should heat your cabin just fine.
Hey Thanks !!
Put mine 14-16 inches of wall for good air flow.
That sounds right and best for the unit as well. Thank you for watching!! Cheers!
2 ton unit for 400 sq feet? it not insulated?
Why you mounted the condenser too close to the wall ???🤔
That was the location I chose to mount it. We have lots of snow in the winter. it needed to be up off the ground. Thanks for commenting and thanks for stopping by!!
@@Turninstones I believe pdnhsa was referring to the clearance between the outside unit and the wall that it's hung on and not the height of the installed unit. The height looks good. There's a minimum clearance between the wall and the back of the unit that must exist so proper air flow exists. It's hard to tell from the video but it looked like the back of the unit sits really close to the wall.
However, not pulling a vacuum to begin with is most likely your performance issue. Pulling a vacuum is required for all mini splits except for those that come with a pre-charged line set like the Mr. Cool units. When air and other contaminants are left in the line, this definitely affects the performance and maybe the life of the unit itself.
Hopefully you did a leak check by spraying the connections with soapy water or store bought leak check fluid to identify any refrigerant loss. You still might do the leak check again to verify you might not have a small refrigerant leak.
Best bet though, get a real HVAC guy to take a look at it (you might already have done that). Even if he recommends doing a costly refrigerant replacement because of the contaminated non-vacuumed line set it might be worth it. If you do bring in a HVAC guy, do another video, we'd love to hear the outcome. Thank for this video.
@@michaely1164 I have about 6" clearance on the back of the outside unit. The Senville wall bracket doesn't give you much option to expand. I was out as far as it would allow me. That being said, I have had zero issues. Its run awesome and so far I have no complaints.
I have about 6" clearance on the back of the outside unit. The Senville wall bracket doesn't give you much option to expand. I was out as far as it would allow me. That being said, I have had zero issues. Its run awesome and so far I have no complaints.
My 24000 but unit mini split does it have to be wired up separately
Hi, you have a main wire that comes with your Senville mini split, it connects the outside unit to the inside unit. Then you connect a separate wire (Sold separately). It connects from the outside unit to your electrical breaker/ shutoff box which should be mounted near the outside unit.. I used 10/3 and ran it from my shut off box Then to my my main fuse box. Hope this helps.
What gauge wire , powers the unit?
I used 10 gauge for my unit.
Senville units come precharged with 25 ft worth of refrigerant. Standard lineset is 16 ft and yours looks like 16 ft. Your neighbor likely use some refrigerant to flush out the air from your lines and indoor unit. That's likely why your system runs okay. For sure not as good as running vacuum but it did the trick. Anyone agree?
Without doing a proper vacuum and checking with a micron gauge, you can't know for sure how leak free the system is.
You are right and mine is running great so far and yes my lineset was 16ft.
@@Turninstoneswhat is the seer rating ? How many watts /per hour does it take?
@@GaHullbillyRanch The seer rating on my unit is 21.5. Running a 2-ton central air or mini-split air conditioner will use anywhere between 0.96 kWh and 1.71 kWh per hour (depends on the SEER rating).
I know one of your viewers mentioned it,however I want to point out again the condenser unit that contains the refrigerant is separated from the evaporator inside your home with all the lines you hooked up that came with the unit that is all open to oxygen and that is required to remove. Why? Because it contains H20 which is corrosive within a sealed system of refrigerant and ultimately will fail sooner than later. Need to vacuum the lines,it is required, all the video’s you pull up show this.
Are you still happy with your ac ?
Yes sir very happy with AC!
@@Turninstones ya we bought this house in north Texas that has an addition that has an old split unit. So I’m just doing some research. So thanks for responding to me.
Did I misinterpret or did you actually mean the installer never pulled a vacuum before releasing the refridgerent into the system?
Correct he never pulled a vacuum. I am no expert but from what I was told by a different heating and air company is that early on they would just release the refrigerant on new units, but that was years ago. He said the new heating & air techs are trained to pull a vacuum all the time to make sure the lines are clean. I was hoping the original guy I called could've done that, but he didn't even have a vacuum kit. He's old school but I trust his knowledge and knock on wood it hasn't given me any issues as of yet.
Crazy u need a vacuum
@@Turninstones vacuum is mandatory, your guy may have just been a maintenance person, not a real tech.
@@Jon-hx7pe you are absolutely right. He was just a maintenance person at a school. That's where I messed up, not calling a local reputable hvac service in the first place.
Wht a joke no vacuum no way
what size breaker and what size wire ???
I used a 30 amp breaker and 10 gauge wire.
Mine worked for a few weeks and now it keeps throwing an EL1 code. Unit is junk,spend the extra money and get a name brand unit...
@@turbobob2793 that's not good, especially considering how expensive they are. The other bad thing about Senville is that it's hard finding local HVAC service companies that actually work on them. Hopefully you can get it figured out.
He is a bad refrigeration tehc, You need to pressurize with nitrogen, to check for leak, and helps eliminate humidity that in the pipes. Humidity is the worse enemie of a refrigeration system. And after , you need to do a good vacuum. for a long lasting trouble free mini split.....
It's a little close to the wall. you need at least 8 to 10 inches around.
Your absolutely right. That particular Senville bracket didn't allow me to come away from the wall as far as I'd liked. I'm only about 6" away , however it's on the North side of the building away from the sun and up off the ground plenty enough to allow ample air flow. I have had the unit a year now and have had zero issues. Thank you for stopping by.
You will be fine mine has been running for 2 years without pulling a vacuum
I think so too, and I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one that did not pull a vacuum. Thanks for your comment and thanks for stopping by-Cheers!
I have senville - support is terrible - unit generated error codes within a month of installation - I should have returned it. 1 year later it is not working - fan stopped - support does not care - will let you suffer in the heat as they drag their feet to send any parts.
Sorry to hear this, my neighbor just went through a similar experience. His started pushing codes. He had 4 different techs from different companies stop out and most didn't want to touch the Senville. Finally he managed to find a tech that knew what they were doing. His ended up being the compressor was bad and he had just installed the unit. Senville tech support said they rarely ever go bad, that said the Senville tech did send him a knew compressor and it works fine now, but what a nightmare. Hope you get your issue figured out soon friend, thanks again for stopping by.
Did you use 10/3 gauge wire to connect it? Or 12 gauge?
I used 10 gauge to connect mine.
@@Turninstones did you connect the red wire anywhere? Or just black and white? I have 10 gauge with black white and red.
@@Rykersrealm My 10 gauge which I believe is 10-2 was white, black and green.
On the outside unit I connected my "white to L1 and black to L2" and I connected my green to the ground on the outside unit under the screw on plate.
@@Turninstones got it! Oh, and then you connected it to a double 30 amp breaker?
@@Rykersrealm sorry for the late reply. Yes then I hooked it to the 30amp breaker!
I can’t get these guys to ship me the right unit I purchased. I agree service is zero. They make you feel like they’re helping you but in reality it’s zero. Need a vacuum pump in order to get air and moisture out of the lines. I think your buddy couldn’t get his licence renewed instead of letting lapse. Either way he shouldn’t be working on HVAC industry.
Your absolutely right my buddy was the wrong guy to call. Hopefully they get your right unit shipped to you. They have poor customer service. Good luck!!
You need to vacuum always been doing this for years are u kidding this will give u problems sooner thn later
What’s a good brand?
And then people like this get away with it for years or decades.... by "bleeding" the lines 😂
The rest of the install is just cringe too. The manufacturer/sellers of these things must be absolutely sick of dealing with people like this, because I bet this person here is 90% of there 'warranty' claims.
I laugh when i hear freon as the product used for AC units . People have no idea what their talking about .
loos great
Thank you!!
The Problem with Senville is the Service is ZERO.
That's what I've been told too.
Anyone who services carrier , Bryant , Lennox Bosch ECT should be able to service it they are all the exact same . All made by midea