Great tour, thanks. Is there anyplace on the route you took where 4wd is needed? Do you take any special precautions with food in the camper when you're in areas with bears, grizzlies especially?
Good Questions @hu_b. I would say no, for the most part we didn't really need 4WD. High clearance probably helps in a few boondock spots, and maybe on the road into Salmon Glacier, but I don't recall ever really needing 4wd. Maybe once or twice, as a precaution, say on river rock or a huge pothole with water that we weren't sure about, we went into 4wd, but we didn't really need it. We tried to minimize food odors in the camper, except for what was in the fridge, and only keep muesli cereal and maybe cookies in the camper, and coffee, with the rest in a bin that we always locked up in the truck cab along with our grill and all garbage at night or when away from the rig. We really don't cook in the camper unless it is heating water for Ramen or an "emergency" freeze dried meal because it is cold or stormy outside. The Grizzley just outside our camper near Haines came over there because the idiots in the car behind us were cooking or cleaning a pot and dumped dirty water outside their car when the bears got close, so that definitely drew the bears closer. Thanks for viewing and for the questions!
@@sagebrushers8497 Thanks for the detailed answers. I found your trip summary pretty eye-opening because I've always wanted to go up north and see some salmon, bald eagles, brown bears etc but never considered taking my FWC because of the distance. It really looks like there's a lot to see all along the route though so now I'm seriously considering it. How many days in total did your trip take? Did you end up getting flats even driving more slowly? I wouldn't want to carry an extra spare with the expense and added weight unless absolutely necessary.
@@hu_b We felt that our FWC was a great rig to take north because we were prepared to go nearly anywhere without too much worry about road conditions. Yes, so much to see in British Columbia and Alberta (Icefields Parkway). We spent 28 days and travelled about 6,500 miles so that averages 232 miles per day--pretty leisurely. Although probably 3 or 4 days we didn't travel at all. In addition to boondock spots, we also stayed in 1 RV park, 3 hotels and 3 established campgrounds were the location was the important thing (a couple nights with family before we got too Canada too). We got no flat tires and that is really only an increased risk on the Dempster Highway to Inuvik/Tuk I think. But you know, we saw no one changing a tire in roughly 1000 miles on that road so it is probably not that bad. Just make sure your tires are in good shape and slow down when in an area with potholes. We did not care an extra spare. If the bears, eagles and salmon are your top priority, you could cut out the Dempster Highway and save a lot of stress and a loooong gravel road. It was an adventure, but not a lot of wildlife (we could see) and it really takes about 4 - 5 days so it may not be worth it depending on what your goals are. Plenty of scenery and wildlife elsewhere. If you are not totally into getting to the Arctic Circle and Arctic ocean, I'd take the Dempster to Tombstone Park just to get a taste for the Dempster and call it good. That is the most spectacular portion of the Dempster. Or to Eagle Plains the halfway point. For salmon, bears and eagles probably Hyder, Haines and Katmai Peninsula are your best bets that I know of. (we didn't do Katmai on this trip. Hope you go sometime!
@@sagebrushers8497 I'm pretty familiar with Katmai NP... virtually that is haha. Actually it's amazing how much you can learn from a distance watching the bears via the live cams. Of course you don't get the visceral in-person experience. That's interesting you didn't have a flat or see anyone else changing a tire. Did you consider the Dalton Hwy as an alternative? I guess if your goal is to reach the Arctic Ocean the Dempster Hwy might be better.
Yes, considered the Dalton, but a long way to go without being allowed to get to the Arctic Ocean. And we had been to Alaska so this trip was more about the Yukon and NWT ;-)
Good question. We ranged from 14.5 mpg climbing the up the west slope of the Rockies to Jasper to 19.2 mpg going from Dawson City to Eagle Plains on the Dempster Highway, with an overall average of 17.5 mpg on the Dempster and probably around 16.5 to 17mpg for the whole trip. With our 23 gallon tank that is a range of 402 mi, average on the Dempster (@17.5mpg) and a range of 335 to 441 miles for the trip (@ 14.5 to 19.2 mpg). The typical speed limit on AB, BC and Yukon highways is 100kph or 62 mph so that gave us better than our usual fuel economy and it is 90kph or 56 mph on the Dempster, and we often drove a little slower due to the risk of huge potholes on some sections. It is also fairly flat so that gave us even better mileage, up to 19.2 mpg approaching Eagle Plains. It is so far between gas stations in BC, YT and NWT that you often don't want to go below half a tank before filling. In the western US we get about 16 mpg in "Normal" and 17 mpg when using the "Eco" driving mode if we keep it below 70 or 75 mph, and down to 12.5 or 13 mpg on slow, rough, mountain backcountry roads or huge hills. This is all with a Hawk Four Wheel Camper on a 2018 Ford F150 XLT Super Cab , two passengers and basic camping equipment. Sorry for the long-winded answer, but that should give you a pretty good idea. Thanks for asking!
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Great tour, thanks. Is there anyplace on the route you took where 4wd is needed? Do you take any special precautions with food in the camper when you're in areas with bears, grizzlies especially?
Good Questions @hu_b. I would say no, for the most part we didn't really need 4WD. High clearance probably helps in a few boondock spots, and maybe on the road into Salmon Glacier, but I don't recall ever really needing 4wd. Maybe once or twice, as a precaution, say on river rock or a huge pothole with water that we weren't sure about, we went into 4wd, but we didn't really need it.
We tried to minimize food odors in the camper, except for what was in the fridge, and only keep muesli cereal and maybe cookies in the camper, and coffee, with the rest in a bin that we always locked up in the truck cab along with our grill and all garbage at night or when away from the rig. We really don't cook in the camper unless it is heating water for Ramen or an "emergency" freeze dried meal because it is cold or stormy outside. The Grizzley just outside our camper near Haines came over there because the idiots in the car behind us were cooking or cleaning a pot and dumped dirty water outside their car when the bears got close, so that definitely drew the bears closer.
Thanks for viewing and for the questions!
@@sagebrushers8497 Thanks for the detailed answers. I found your trip summary pretty eye-opening because I've always wanted to go up north and see some salmon, bald eagles, brown bears etc but never considered taking my FWC because of the distance. It really looks like there's a lot to see all along the route though so now I'm seriously considering it. How many days in total did your trip take? Did you end up getting flats even driving more slowly? I wouldn't want to carry an extra spare with the expense and added weight unless absolutely necessary.
@@hu_b We felt that our FWC was a great rig to take north because we were prepared to go nearly anywhere without too much worry about road conditions. Yes, so much to see in British Columbia and Alberta (Icefields Parkway). We spent 28 days and travelled about 6,500 miles so that averages 232 miles per day--pretty leisurely. Although probably 3 or 4 days we didn't travel at all. In addition to boondock spots, we also stayed in 1 RV park, 3 hotels and 3 established campgrounds were the location was the important thing (a couple nights with family before we got too Canada too).
We got no flat tires and that is really only an increased risk on the Dempster Highway to Inuvik/Tuk I think. But you know, we saw no one changing a tire in roughly 1000 miles on that road so it is probably not that bad. Just make sure your tires are in good shape and slow down when in an area with potholes. We did not care an extra spare.
If the bears, eagles and salmon are your top priority, you could cut out the Dempster Highway and save a lot of stress and a loooong gravel road. It was an adventure, but not a lot of wildlife (we could see) and it really takes about 4 - 5 days so it may not be worth it depending on what your goals are. Plenty of scenery and wildlife elsewhere. If you are not totally into getting to the Arctic Circle and Arctic ocean, I'd take the Dempster to Tombstone Park just to get a taste for the Dempster and call it good. That is the most spectacular portion of the Dempster. Or to Eagle Plains the halfway point.
For salmon, bears and eagles probably Hyder, Haines and Katmai Peninsula are your best bets that I know of. (we didn't do Katmai on this trip. Hope you go sometime!
@@sagebrushers8497 I'm pretty familiar with Katmai NP... virtually that is haha. Actually it's amazing how much you can learn from a distance watching the bears via the live cams. Of course you don't get the visceral in-person experience. That's interesting you didn't have a flat or see anyone else changing a tire. Did you consider the Dalton Hwy as an alternative? I guess if your goal is to reach the Arctic Ocean the Dempster Hwy might be better.
Yes, considered the Dalton, but a long way to go without being allowed to get to the Arctic Ocean. And we had been to Alaska so this trip was more about the Yukon and NWT ;-)
Hey what kind of fuel mileage and fuel range did u get with your setup? Thanks
Good question. We ranged from 14.5 mpg climbing the up the west slope of the Rockies to Jasper to 19.2 mpg going from Dawson City to Eagle Plains on the Dempster Highway, with an overall average of 17.5 mpg on the Dempster and probably around 16.5 to 17mpg for the whole trip. With our 23 gallon tank that is a range of 402 mi, average on the Dempster (@17.5mpg) and a range of 335 to 441 miles for the trip (@ 14.5 to 19.2 mpg).
The typical speed limit on AB, BC and Yukon highways is 100kph or 62 mph so that gave us better than our usual fuel economy and it is 90kph or 56 mph on the Dempster, and we often drove a little slower due to the risk of huge potholes on some sections. It is also fairly flat so that gave us even better mileage, up to 19.2 mpg approaching Eagle Plains.
It is so far between gas stations in BC, YT and NWT that you often don't want to go below half a tank before filling.
In the western US we get about 16 mpg in "Normal" and 17 mpg when using the "Eco" driving mode if we keep it below 70 or 75 mph, and down to 12.5 or 13 mpg on slow, rough, mountain backcountry roads or huge hills. This is all with a Hawk Four Wheel Camper on a 2018 Ford F150 XLT Super Cab , two passengers and basic camping equipment.
Sorry for the long-winded answer, but that should give you a pretty good idea. Thanks for asking!
Hey thanks for the info much appreciated I have the same truck and it has a 2.7 ecoboost and 36 gallon tank wouldn't yours have the same tank?