999 HP vs Scissors Boss Attack in Paper Mario The Origami King | CAN MARIO SURVIVE SCISSORS' ATTACK?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- In this video we take a closer look at the gameplay of Paper Mario: The Origami King, especially the battle with the Scissors boss and the combat system with edited HP values. In the full game, Paper Mario: The Origami King, there are plenty of interesting things to explore, and this is a question I wanted to dive into. What happens in Paper Mario: The Origami King during the Scissors fight if we boost Mario's HP as high as possible by editing the game's save data? Can Mario survive the 999 damage attack from the Scissors boss? What happens as we increase Mario's HP in Paper Mario: The Origami King? We examine all of these questions and more!
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All boss fights in Paper Mario: The Origami King are interesting, and today, we take a closer look at the Scissors boss fight. Can Paper beat Scissors, after all? We also take a brief look at the Water Vellumental boss and the Hole Punch boss, but the focus of this video is examining if Mario can survive the 999 damage attack from the Scissors boss.
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Ok but can Luigi come in battle with you?
@@charismaentertainer1657 Unfortunately not :( Luigi and the Sombrero Guy can follow you, but they disappear during battles and reappear after battles
990 > 999
Looks like we have to remake the entire concept of math
Exactly! Mario has transcended beyond mathematics
Calcium Carbonate
No wonder I failed algebra…because I wasn’t thinking math like Mario!
@@ZXMany nah he randomly forgot how to math
meanwhile olivia only forgot how to multiply by a point
Paper mario and me in the past now knows 990 is more than 999
1:24 this proves that the amount of damage that Mario does compared to his HP is a calculation rather than just similar to the level up system where you get something depending on how many units of something you have
That's right! You end up doing 1 extra damage for every ~13 total HP you gain!
Is 1000 subscribers more than 999?
Yeah, the 1,000 people who have decided to click subscribe is the biggest number of all :) Thanks for checking out the video, hope you enjoyed it!
no
@@BlueEngland yes
@@noidea2665 I knew you would agree with me
Ah yes the Quagsire Queen
3:17
“Scissors beats Paper”
Me every time I see a pair of scissors: *please don’t hurt me*
Game Over - Donkey Kong Country 3
Ice cream beats scissors, rock, and paper
The Scissor Boss be like:
Wait, why my enemy today is so hard that I can’t cut him in 1 cut?
Exactly! Thanks for the comment :)
Would have been cool if you lived after being cut he said what you hacker
@@jasonthompson1807 That would've been a great fourth wall break!
Jason Thompson Then he uses Safe Tee immediately after. If you don’t die, he keeps using it until you die.
That would only work if the sheath was not destroyed
Mario : jump and dodge scissor
Also Mario : loses 999 hp
Yeah, that was so strange! It turns out that if you survive the scissors attack, it plays the animation of Mario jumping, even if you don't jump!
I didn’t expect this video to be as big of a roller coaster of emotions as it was lmao. Definitely one of your best to date! Congrats on the 1K subs as well.
P.S. I very much appreciate the various 69’s and 420’s throughout the video :)
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it! And I'm glad the little details are noticed!
funni numbe
It's cool how the game knows that you've tampered with your save file. Nintendo probably did this to prevent hacking.
0:00
Why is Sombrero guy following you? hack or deleted partner?
Great question! In my last video (What happens in Paper Mario: The Origami King if we CLONE PARTNERS?), I was looking at what happens if we edit the game's save data to have different partners, and having the Sombrero guy as a partner is an option. Maybe he was originally planned as a temporary follower, like spike/ the bone goomba!
You have the best paper Mario content in youtube
Thank you so much for the kind comment! Really glad you enjoy it :)
You re the best dude thanks for giving to us this awesome content!
69 HP and 420420 coins XD
I'm glad that detail was noticed!
Nice.
I think that it added the HP after you got hit, thats why you had 35 HP after hit and not 26.
Yeah, that's exactly how it works :) There's an invisible HP boost
Moral of the story: 990>999
Exactly, Mario is rewriting the laws of mathematics!
990>999 =999999999999999990>99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Your gonna be the next styder7x of TOK keep up the good work
Thanks so much for the comment, I've really enjoyed a lot of his videos :) Hope you're enjoying the content!
No, It's not that he had more HP than 999, *he just didn't feel like getting cut in half.*
I absolutely love this explanation 😂
This was a amazing journey
Haha I have been here when you were not even at 100 yet
Thank you so much! Yeah, it was definitely an emotional rollercoaster
Wow I joined when u were at like 90k
You did it. You mad lad you made it to 1000 in just a few months
Oh and 69 hp nice 0:46
Yeah, we did it!! So happy about that :) Thank you for the comment!
It took just over 2 months, my goal was 1,000 subscribers by September 22, and we reached the goal 1 week early!
Scissors: Nani! Dōshite watashi no kyūkyoku no kōgeki o koeru koto ga dekitadeshou, watashi no ha no chikara ni hitteki suru mono wa hoka ni arimasen!
Mario: Anata ga bakageta shizāzu, anata wa watashi ga 990 bariki shika motteinai to omotta, shikashi anata wa machigatte ita, watashi wa watashi no poketto no naka ni kakusareta + 35 bariki o motte ita! Anata no mottomo kyōryokuna kōgekide sae, watashi no arata ni hakken sa reta chikara de watashi o taosu koto wa dekimasen. Ima, watashi no kyōryokuna densetsu no hanmā no ikari o kanjite kudasai!
Scissors: Dōshite kon'nani bakadatta nodarou! Bangō!
Kinda impressed that the battle still goes on, apart from the automatic Mario jump everything worked as normal.
I wonder if the developers considered this as an option or, since you technically can't figth it with so much HP they didn't think about it, even if I thought that it was going to be an instant death in any case.
Thanks for this interesting video about this little detail.
Thanks a lot for the comment, glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I really wonder about that too, it was really interesting to explore and experiment with. I have more stuff like this coming soon, hope you enjoy the content :)
@@ZXMany
Oh I can't wait to see other videos like this, or just other videos made by you.
I wish you luck.
@@FanofGuardianTales Thank you so much!
I think what happens is that the game checks to see if Mario's jump timing is within the needed time to dodge the attack. If his timing is just about right, the Scissors does no damage and the mid-jump animation is shown. If his timing isn't correct, Scissors deals 999 damage, which is way over the normal amount of HP Mario would've had at that point. Since the game sees that Mario died, it plays the cutting animation instead. Since Mario has over 999 HP, he has enough health left over to survive and the game "assumes" that Mario jumped over the blade since he survived and plays the jumping animation, but since Mario didn't jump in between the right frames, he still takes damage. Basically, the game uses different animations based off of whether Mario survives or... he doesn't.
6:05 damn I finally found the answer to a question I wondered since July 2020.
I wonder what would happen to every other boss with 999 hp
It's interesting stuff! Mostly the fight becomes easier and Mario does a very high amount of damage, sometimes beating them in 1 turn
When I first thought about this, I thought that the animation for slicing up mario would still play, but would then give you an invisible Mario.
This is awesome mate. The time and effort you put in is great
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the comment! Glad you enjoyed it, a lot of effort does go into it :)
The answer is 1020 hp :)
I remember when this first came out, I had been subbed since before 1k and now he is at 529k you have come along way man keep up the good work!
Hold up. You survived with 35HP. The gold heart gives you an extra 35HP. If you had 990+35HP, then you *should* have been left at 26HP, not 35. As such, we can tell that you do actually have 999HP, with the extra 35 added, and battles simply don't display it past 990 for some reason.
I did some more experimenting that might interest you, here's something that wasn't included in the video:
I entered a random battle with 999 HP, and my HP dropped to 990/990. It stayed at 990/990 after leaving the battle. I took damage repeatedly from spikes/ fire and I wondered if I'd still be alive at 0 HP or if I had any HP that wasn't being shown. When I got to 0 HP, I died, there wasn't any extra HP outside of the battle.
The battle accessories and max HP caps work in interesting ways
Weird!
@@awesomefuzz4008 Yeah! More coming up in future videos :)
Teacher: What is bigger than 999?
Me: 990
Teacher: What makes you think that?
Me: You wouldn't understand...
I love this so much, that's hilarious 😂
I loved this video! Subscribed!
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed it! Hope you enjoy the other content I have :)
Yes! I was literally going to ask this question on one of your videos. Also, congrats on surpassing 1,000 subscribers!
That's awesome! And thanks so much, I really appreciate that! Very happy to reach 1000 :)
No problem :)
When you fight handaconda scissors beats paper
Then you fight a LITERAL PAIR OF SCISSORS
Someone count how many times he said 9
Wow. It's stunning that an instant kill attack actually works off of hp instead of just being straight fatal.
One of the few times an "overkill-insta-death-attack" actually stays true to its damage display
I have a guess as to why it makes you jump even though you didn’t, during final cut.
I believe that if the game reads like this:
if you are still alive while scissors uses Final Cut, you must have jumped and survived
Yeah, exactly, that makes sense! Really interesting how that works :)
Huh, so the jump must be apart of the scissors animation when you survive.
Get ready for Mario 1 shot bosses
How many hole punch holes can Mario have with 990 HP?
Can Mario with 990 +35 HP survive King Olly's scissors attack? Can he survive attacks that do not have damage numbers such as Thwomps, Chain Chomp, the cannon at Shy Guys Finish Last, or the purple fog during the final boss?
That's a great question! I'm guessing any attacks that are automatic game-overs won't be prevented with a higher HP, and I'll do some experimenting! Thanks for the comment!
Congrats on 1k subs
Thank you so much! Really happy we got here!
It is not really an "invisible" boost, but a boost that is calculated in 2 ways: One is external visually (Your HP you see all time in the corner) and the other one is a state in the gamefiles you have no way of seeing when you play other than using a debugger. The external value is capped at 999 since there is simply no 4th digit to represent a value of 1000 or more. The internal value however does not share this cap.
I even be bold here and say Marios internal HP cap lies at 65535 HP (65536-1 since 0 HP are a value as well and negative numbers are not taken into account since you stop at 0=ded)
This is the 16bit integer cap which could be a possible value register in the gamefiles. If the register is a 32bit one, Marios possible max HP would be 2147483646 (again 2147483647-1)
_Do this take again, but this time, find out what integer is used. Crank up your HP accordingly and watch Mario getting dealt absolutely "no" damage on the Scissors_
Edit: Although I know how the HP max is calculated, I have NO idea what makes max HP drop down to 990 in a fight
That means that mario beats maths and scissors?
Yeah, Paper beats Scissors, and Mario has overcome the laws of arithmetic
@@ZXMany well, i will not judge mario's logic
2:27 Almost a “excellent” lol
Next myth, if you set the same hp for the scissors, try with the hole puncher boss, how many times can the hole puncher punch holes into mario before he dies ? (yeah maybe this wont be interresting i suppose it will do the same)
That's a good idea! That'll be fun to test out, thanks for the comment!
scissors! ican beat almost everyone using 1 attack
mario: *okie dokie, lets-a-beat this!*
In the Fairy tail for the Nintendo Switch, the game does not let get over 30,000 damage in combat until Chapter 4 Day 4 of the games. I successfully got over 30,000 damage in day 1, 2,and 3 of the games; all that happens is that the game puts in the total damage amount at the end of the battle to around 29,994 damage total or something similar to that. The 30,000 damage barriers do not break at that point in the game if the amount of damage is caused, because of that in game limitation. However, there is also ways to increase total attack power which I never tried at all to see if the game would reset the total damage counter at the end of the encounter.
That's really interesting! Thank you for the comment :)
Finnally someone did it, I don't know why, but I wanted someone that try this, also, the game just has a visual limit of 990hp, but internally, the game know you have more hp then that. Still suprised tho, cause these type of limit was in old games and more recent game just do it and show the big number anyway or the number limit is not only visual...
Edit : Just realise, I'm suprised the game didn't softlock when you survived jumping on the scissors, I except a softlock since there is no animation of mario surviving when he jump on it
Yeah, I was really surprised when the game didn't softlock or crash too!
The HP behaves pretty strangely: your HP remains at 990 after you leave a battle, and you die after taking 990 damage, even if don't take any damage in the battle!
Alt title: Mario finally learned how to block the "final cut" attack
Great video! you just earned a subscriber!
Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed the video, hope you enjoy my other content :)
Me: *(Looks at starting health in the video)*
Also me: *N i c e .*
NICE
And now 471k congratulations dude
Wonder why battles are limited to 990 HP when the overworld isn't
Yeah, it's really interesting. HP works pretty weird when you get a Max-up heart at 980-999 HP also
I got a idea for a video so at 999 HP see how much bosses in paper mario the origami king is possible in a single turn
That's a cool idea! It'd be most of them except for things like Rubber Band or Fire Vellumental that need something special to defeat them :)
We did a similar video for the Fire Vellumental here for anyone who's interested: ua-cam.com/video/yjPT6iGCO3M/v-deo.html
But you can do eny boots
or hammers
Hey can you do a video showing enemy and boss stats (HP and attack power), and if you can modify it to make enemies harder, thought it could be interesting for a video
Awesome idea! I did a bit of this in my video "What does the Pow Block do to every Paper Mario: The Origami King Boss?" because the POW block does only 1 damage to a lot of bosses
I think the Paper Mario The Origami King modding community could be interested in editing bosses to make them more difficult :)
@@ZXMany Exactly! I also I just subscribed, you're content is great.
@@ricardodct5577 Thank you so much, really appreciate that! Hope you enjoy the content!
Scissors: STUN- when he attacks
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
I have a question...
King Olly in his final form has an attack similar to the final cut that also does 999 damage. Would Mario be able to survive that attack?
I haven't tested that one yet, but I'm assuming it works exactly the same way as the scissors boss attack here :) I'll have to test it though, thank you for bringing it to my attention!
You played amazing!
Congrats on 1000 subs!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much!!
Congrats on 1000 subs woohoo 🥳
Thank you so much!
Great how you can come up with these crazy ideas
This idea actually came from a viewer after they saw my last video, it was really fun to experiment with it!
ZXMany yeah it seems very funny to work with
i see what happens
the game cant show more than 990 hp but the game still registers it as 999
you died the first time because it hit you with 999 damage leaving you at exactly 0 hp
thats why you are left with 35hp with the battle accesory only leaving you with the life that the battle accesory gave you
I love ur vids
Thank you for the comment, glad you enjoy them!
4:49 Prrrprprprppprrrrpprprprprprr!
0:49
Bowser? 😦
What are you doing here? 🤨
New Video Idea: Infinite Partners
@@ZXMany I've never really had a youtuber talk to me that much, I appreciate it! You've earned a subscriber!
@@thewanderingchelmet That's awesome, I really appreciate that, thank you! Hope you enjoy the videos :)
Best paper mario experience
Yeah, it was a lot of fun!
Omg you saw my idea thank you !!!
Yeah, it was a really cool idea and it was a lot of fun to explore! Thanks for the suggestion :)
Cool channel so funny remember when bowser drove into the floor
> 420 HP on a normal battle
> Editing 50 hp to become 69 hp
Nice.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I have had this on my watch later list ever since I got my hands on the game. I never watched it so I wouldn’t spoil anything. FINALLY, I defeated the scissors and can watch it!
That's awesome! How are you enjoying the game so far? And I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@ZXMany The game is great! First video of your I watched of yours! Saw you did more videos like this and subscribed!
I also had a wonder about the game. When fighting a boss you can hit the panel with the “+1” on it to get 2 moves. But, if you use say a hammer with one durability and use it for both turns I wonder what would happen. I saw you liked to test this stuff out, for example killing bosses with the pow block!
@@gamerdogthedog Really glad you enjoy the game! Hope you like the other videos I have like this :)
And that's a really good question! If I remember correctly, if you select the same weapon for both turns and it breaks in the first turn, then in the second turn you can't attack and it says the weapon broke
@@ZXMany Huh, interesting! Thanks for letting me know! I have watched more of your videos and I LOVE them! I am working on getting 100% with the game.
@@gamerdogthedog Really glad you love them, thanks so much for the comment! :D Good luck with 100% completing the game!! Hope to see you in the comments of future videos :)
This is pretty cool! But I always wonder how do people change the game like that I’m curious
So, how many of you thought you could jump on the scissors with iron boots without getting cut the first time you battled it
or am I just an idiot
I tried the same thing, I was curious to see if it would work :) The game primed us into thinking that iron boots protect you from spiky foes and that it might also work on the scissors boss
the first time mario got cutted with the sissors he had 35 hp left, which means that he had actually 999 hp, because the boost he got was exactly of 35
If I had to guess, the game doesnt know what to do if Mario survives the attack, so it instead plays the animation of him jumping
Yeah, exactly, it'd be hilarious if they played the Mario getting cut in half animation but if still survives
Dang it i wasn't the first to think about it and it took me like 10 sentences to explain it.
Also, you don't actually have 990, as seen by you having exactly 35 hp left, because 999+35-999=35, and 990+35-999=26
I have a question:how do you get the snifit that has all the accessories from tine plus to gold heart plus?
0:05 nice
0:33 ayoooo the hp
its visually because he survived the 999 damage attack with guard plus since the max health is 999 he will die if he gets hit with a 999 damage attack
actually im suscribed and this looks now like stryders channel
Thanks for the comment! I've really enjoyed a lot of his videos :)
And i find it funny at the 30 PLus HP is invisubull
Yeah, that surprised me too!
This was the very 1st video I liked I think this would be a cool trend
I say would because this isn't a trend yet
So, can you explain how much easier the Water Vellumental is now. I wouldn’t wanna see how much damage it would deal to the Earth Vellumental
Maybe Mario should teleport, too
bro try making a vid called "Is it possible to beat PMOK without using confetti?"
0:34 n i c e amount of hp
Your videos helped me beat some of the bosses
That's awesome, glad they helped you!
Paper beats scissors. Film at 11.
I have confidence in Mario
It’s fascinating how the game handles Mario surviving getting cut by scissors. It basically acts like he survived the attack even though he got hit, which is frankly really cool
Yeah, that's fascinating! It's really cool to look into what happens with games like this, I love exploring stuff like this :) More videos like this are coming soon also!
I was hoping it would get all glitchy or something
This time..
*PAPER BEATS SCISSORS!*
"At 200 HP, the maximum amount of HP we can normally get Mario to..." (Sorry if I misquoted that)
Not quite. I've seen ProfisiaGaming's fight against the Origami King, and he started with 215 HP, so you might be wrong on that.
Also, if anyone wants to try to make a Kaizo Origami King Mod (by editing the enemies, but *NOT* Mario's stats), lemme know. I have ideas for the Kaizo bosses (but I sadly don't know how to code).
hes using the extra heart accessories and those dont count
Yeah, exactly, Mario's HP can normally reach a maximum of 200, but it can go slightly higher if you use battle accessories :)
Oh.
I might've forgotten about him using accessories....whoops. 😅
Game Over - Donkey Kong Country 3
its clearly possible by doing that with over 990 by modifying with save file even with 1 up mushroom.
During the middle he kind of sounded like a youth pastor
Pls do the same thing with color splash in iggy boss if you use the bone early in fight the iggy use attack that does 999 damage
That’s insane.
Also how do you get Mexico shy guy and bowser to follow you?
Yeah, this was really surprising to me, it was a fun journey! Love exploring this kind of stuff :) Those partners can be surprisingly unlocked by editing the game's save data! Maybe the Sombrero Guy was planned as a temporary partner like Spike and the Bone Goomba!
ZXMany how do you do it?
@@hannahwootton2258 zSupremeoz wrote a program in C# that you can use to edit the game's save data and it recalculates the CRC32B hash which prevents the save file from being corrupted/ resetting when you edit it (but you should still make backups)
I mean, no need to overdramatize it. His HP is 1,020. Game can't show four digit health values, but internally that's what it is.
(Also for some reason, the gold heart plus gives +35 in some instances, so there his HP is 1,025. Or maybe it's 1,029 and 1,034 respectively, but you get the point.)
Thanks for the comment! The way HP displays behaves and is displayed in this game is really interesting when we give Mario strange HP values (really high or really low)
I have a few videos looking at the code for anyone who's interested in it :) Thank you for checking out the video, appreciate it!
@@ZXMany I'm glad you're making this content. I'm a sucker for numbers and data; I'd likely be doing something similar if I were to make videos.
@@rmzing That's awesome! You're welcome to pop by the Discord server if you ever want a hand with something or any tips if you choose to get started! Or just to hang out too 👍
WAIT U CAN SURVIVE
yes it’s with a 1UP mushroom- but u can
You can survive without a 1-up mushroom :) I can't remember if a 1-up mushroom revives you after the scissors 999 damage attack, does it?
ZXMany The 1-UP can survive pretty much anything
@@meltedcrystals7 I think it doesn't work at that part near the end of the game if you fall into the hole, there are certain things that just make you game over right away, even if you have a 1-up mushroom. I can't remember if it works when you jump or scissors or not
ZXMany yeah like I accidentally got hit by Paper macho pokey and died but I fell in a hole with 1-UP. Meaning I died to it when I wasn’t suppose to
[ZXMany stays determined]