Ngl, a Tyrogue with 3 evolution paths would be pretty cool. Mew already gets 6 moves to choose from so it wouldn't be that insane of a concept. It would be kind of like Scyther/Scizor in terms of how each path is basically a different role inside Pokemon Unite.
I've thought about this. Hitmonlee could be high damage with self harm risk by using high jump kick (damage self after missing), Hitmontop with mostly utility moves like rapid spin that has a cleansing effect and finally Hitmonchan who'd be somewhere in between, using something like comet punch that actually cycles through fire, ice and thunder punch style effects.
Is it really? The water bear buffs seemed pretty odd. It seemed like liquidation needed a bigger shield and oddly got a damage buff. Whereas liquidation getting a cooldown buff is nice but felt like it needed more healing or damage. Also his Ult is pretty underwhelming.
I totally agree, but the shield from Liquidation is intended to be enlarged and enhanced based on the amount of enemies hit. The unite move definitely needs some changes because unlike Single Strike, you don't dash to the opponent, instead, if they are out of your range, you'd just miss the entire attack.
Surging Strikes cooldown buff was definitely the right first step. Constantly putting out moves if you play it right fits within the theme of this Pokemon. Next should be tweaking the unite, perhaps having a lower cooldown too and/or having less wonkiness. Also, Unite would benefit from Watershifu having no stuns. If these changes somehow proved to be too much then they really just need to make it a lvl6 evo and make Rock Smash a very viable secure move so it can actually fight early-game.
@@jakiru8783 not really, the unite move is a great addition but the after attack is terrible, not the attack power but the because unlike Single Strike, the unite would charge straight to the target, whereas Rapid Strike's version does not, it's only good as a buff when you really need one. Surging Strikes didn't exactly had a buff, they nerfed it few months ago because it was too strong, but they kind of made Rapid Strike completely useless, so they just changed it back. I honestly wish they made Urshifu as strong as it is in Sword and Shield.
It didn't need any buffs. It's an easy character and we were winning with it in high level competitive environments. If you buff it, it ends up like an Eevee situation with a bunch of bad players doing too much damage
I have said it before I think the game needs move abilities that match roles more. I think all ranged attackers should have damage only moves with virtually no CC. It creates a need for the defenders and supports. Brawlers can have short CC but only on one of their moves per move set. We have all been stunned into oblivion in this game and it’s just too much
The best part about the Water Bear comeback is that we can use it as an example to how much a second of extra cooldown can screw a character without nerfing damage
I like how much the meta has changed with this patch. EX Pokémon are still strong but not omnipresent, Water Bear gives another true damage option, and Char being good makes it important to have a quick unite caster! Big time meta shift.
I know that clefable probably just wanted to try the buffs but that match would have gone a lot different if they looked at your team and just ran gravity lol
with Clefable buffed I think we would see more cursed items to be in play now, hopefully. But maybe I'm delusional because this is UNITE we talking about
We need more support pokemon. Also, we need an Eevee that at level 4 can learn 1 of 3 moves (fire, water or thunder type) and evolve into that Eeveelution. Similiar to Scyther but each Eeveelution has a different style. Vaporen as a healer tank, Flareon as a DPS and Jolteon as a speedster with debuffing
Expectation : Buffed crit damage and Surging Strike heal Reality : CD reduction (that's already quite short with his boosted atk), extra Liquidation damage (just why)
I will always remember this match, I got to play with one of my favorite pkmn unite content creators!🎉 Sorry Mr Spragels for the stuns but Delphox supremacy is back!
What's a good hybrid held and battle item loadout for bear? I personally prefer dark bear but I'd like the option to switch to water bear without committing my entire item loadout before the game starts. Maybe Razor Claw, Muscle Band and Attack Weight with Full Heal?
Sounds pretty decent. I need to do some testing as well. Muscle seems like a must for Watershifu but a couple items I've liked on Darkshifu the past months are Weight/Amp which I think will also work on Watershifu.
@@VM-gy8bm Honestly they should have lowered fullheal's cooldown considering everything is a damn CC... I can full heal one fire spin but you damn well know im gonna get fire spinned again in 6 seconds among other moves..
@@nicolefajardo3658 I used to be really quick with feint attack, could illusion and pull off the entire combo, but thanks to the nerf, I'll have to find a new strat if I come back. Used to, I'd illusion/shadow claw for the stun/feint attack/shadow claw, repeat, and could K.O. even a mime. The i-frame was a necessity for that strat though.
@@VM-gy8bm Man in all honesty i hope youre able to either find a way to manage your combos again or find another worthy mon to use cuz it really sucks that this sort of thing screws one over. They could have just if anything lessen a bit the damage but illusion did help a lot by the sound of it.
The "new pokemon every week" from chat 💀 One per month is possible for the biggest franchise in the world. But four times that? not even poorly designed
I guess cuz its a minor legendary? Zacian and Ho-oh are box art and main legendaries of their gen and Mewtwo is the og legendary (the trio birds being minor legendaries themselves)
I suppose the least they could do is make current hook moves better. Goodra should still be able to move around while using Power Whip. Slowbro should be completely Hinderance Resistant while using Telekinesis and heal more while holding a foe.
@@jakiru8783 lol you do know that both of this difender are monster at late game. just immagin a goodra that keep healing while in the middle of a fight and if you try to escape he can drag you back in if goodra can move while using vine whip. and as for slowbro its like suggecting to have a unite move in low CD.
Instead of holowear. They should just realease other pokemon with the same move set as others. 900 pokemon and we get 65. I would rather play a different pokemon with the same moves as another instead of playing a pokemon wearing a dress
Chat saying we need new Pokémon every week just shows how bad some people’s ideas are.
Ngl, a Tyrogue with 3 evolution paths would be pretty cool. Mew already gets 6 moves to choose from so it wouldn't be that insane of a concept. It would be kind of like Scyther/Scizor in terms of how each path is basically a different role inside Pokemon Unite.
I've thought about this. Hitmonlee could be high damage with self harm risk by using high jump kick (damage self after missing), Hitmontop with mostly utility moves like rapid spin that has a cleansing effect and finally Hitmonchan who'd be somewhere in between, using something like comet punch that actually cycles through fire, ice and thunder punch style effects.
Is it really? The water bear buffs seemed pretty odd. It seemed like liquidation needed a bigger shield and oddly got a damage buff. Whereas liquidation getting a cooldown buff is nice but felt like it needed more healing or damage. Also his Ult is pretty underwhelming.
I totally agree, but the shield from Liquidation is intended to be enlarged and enhanced based on the amount of enemies hit. The unite move definitely needs some changes because unlike Single Strike, you don't dash to the opponent, instead, if they are out of your range, you'd just miss the entire attack.
Yeah the main thing is that the ult gives better CD so even if it doesn’t land you still get a buff
Surging Strikes cooldown buff was definitely the right first step. Constantly putting out moves if you play it right fits within the theme of this Pokemon. Next should be tweaking the unite, perhaps having a lower cooldown too and/or having less wonkiness. Also, Unite would benefit from Watershifu having no stuns.
If these changes somehow proved to be too much then they really just need to make it a lvl6 evo and make Rock Smash a very viable secure move so it can actually fight early-game.
@@jakiru8783 not really, the unite move is a great addition but the after attack is terrible, not the attack power but the because unlike Single Strike, the unite would charge straight to the target, whereas Rapid Strike's version does not, it's only good as a buff when you really need one. Surging Strikes didn't exactly had a buff, they nerfed it few months ago because it was too strong, but they kind of made Rapid Strike completely useless, so they just changed it back. I honestly wish they made Urshifu as strong as it is in Sword and Shield.
It didn't need any buffs. It's an easy character and we were winning with it in high level competitive environments. If you buff it, it ends up like an Eevee situation with a bunch of bad players doing too much damage
8:30 look how meowscarada ran through that poltergeist and still be that fast
Meowscarada is busted I’ll tell you that much
Isn't he using x speed or his unite or I am blind or what...
He just used his unite. Every Pokemon can do that..
@@shinywhimsicott3047 I know, but it didn't get slowed, maybe he used x speed to nullify the slows
I think its both @@PRINCE8491
I have said it before I think the game needs move abilities that match roles more. I think all ranged attackers should have damage only moves with virtually no CC. It creates a need for the defenders and supports. Brawlers can have short CC but only on one of their moves per move set. We have all been stunned into oblivion in this game and it’s just too much
Would be a healthy direction for sure. The likes of Mew & A-Ninetales could easily become full on Supports with just a few tweaks.
The best part about the Water Bear comeback is that we can use it as an example to how much a second of extra cooldown can screw a character without nerfing damage
I like how much the meta has changed with this patch. EX Pokémon are still strong but not omnipresent, Water Bear gives another true damage option, and Char being good makes it important to have a quick unite caster! Big time meta shift.
Yeah, good patch!
Water bear's buff is like ok ok it's not overpowered
I really like Ceruledge, it feels really powerful. Makes me hopeful that Armarouge will be strong as well.
0:31 i remember in first years of LoL we get new champion every 2-3 weeks.
If every Pokemon were in unite, people working at Timi making balance patches would be walking into work singing Mad World like Cleveland
The enemy Clef choosing FollowMe over Gravity in this game was wild
He felt fine before if you had max stacks and a level lead but now he feel real
Claw, Charging Charm, and Rocky helmet been having a bit of fun with it haha.
Great build :)
Why buff fire spin? i hate it 😅
I'm so happy my first time reaching master was with water bear
I know that clefable probably just wanted to try the buffs but that match would have gone a lot different if they looked at your team and just ran gravity lol
with Clefable buffed I think we would see more cursed items to be in play now, hopefully. But maybe I'm delusional because this is UNITE we talking about
Great to see water bear becoming viable again
We need more support pokemon.
Also, we need an Eevee that at level 4 can learn 1 of 3 moves (fire, water or thunder type) and evolve into that Eeveelution. Similiar to Scyther but each Eeveelution has a different style. Vaporen as a healer tank, Flareon as a DPS and Jolteon as a speedster with debuffing
Expectation : Buffed crit damage and Surging Strike heal
Reality : CD reduction (that's already quite short with his boosted atk), extra Liquidation damage (just why)
I will always remember this match, I got to play with one of my favorite pkmn unite content creators!🎉 Sorry Mr Spragels for the stuns but Delphox supremacy is back!
I am assuming this is before urshifu got nerfed into the ground i used to main him after the nerf i can't solo anymore
That’s not water bear, that’s mew with transform
Only 2 games in at 1266 master both have been drafts came here before I play more anyone else getting more draft matches after patch under 1400 rated
Sableye needs to be turned into a ranged support to complement the sneaky playstyle that it has. Melee doesn't really work
Thanks for the video Sprag
🙏🏾 for Supporters (Milotic, Togekiss, Vaporeon)
Yo I was in your water bear on stream it was an awesome match to play last night❤
Dropping characters once a week would be impossible to balance
It’s finally back lest gooooo!!!!❤️
Yeah… another worlds where bear will dominate…
Does this mean you are doing water bear one mon only road to masters?!?!?
I knew he would make this video
Urshifu is 🐐
Should I buy chandelure or delphox?
Delphox supremacy baby!
Sableye
What's a good hybrid held and battle item loadout for bear?
I personally prefer dark bear but I'd like the option to switch to water bear without committing my entire item loadout before the game starts.
Maybe Razor Claw, Muscle Band and Attack Weight with Full Heal?
Sounds pretty decent. I need to do some testing as well. Muscle seems like a must for Watershifu but a couple items I've liked on Darkshifu the past months are Weight/Amp which I think will also work on Watershifu.
I’ve been really liking the Delphox buffs, it’s even more annoying now 😭🙏
Urshi looks to be very viable now but boy the CC really hurts it if you dont know how to play around it.
And since they nerfed zoro and it's i-frames, we now have to run full heal as a must... CC has brought this game into a freakshow.
@@VM-gy8bm Honestly they should have lowered fullheal's cooldown considering everything is a damn CC... I can full heal one fire spin but you damn well know im gonna get fire spinned again in 6 seconds among other moves..
@@nicolefajardo3658 I used to be really quick with feint attack, could illusion and pull off the entire combo, but thanks to the nerf, I'll have to find a new strat if I come back. Used to, I'd illusion/shadow claw for the stun/feint attack/shadow claw, repeat, and could K.O. even a mime. The i-frame was a necessity for that strat though.
@@VM-gy8bm Man in all honesty i hope youre able to either find a way to manage your combos again or find another worthy mon to use cuz it really sucks that this sort of thing screws one over. They could have just if anything lessen a bit the damage but illusion did help a lot by the sound of it.
Do you think water bear is real not jungle?
Play X speed on Urshifu and you'r good !
I was watching the steam good game I think my son will be a UA-camr because of you
The "new pokemon every week" from chat 💀
One per month is possible for the biggest franchise in the world. But four times that? not even poorly designed
Haven't seen urshifu used ONCE in my 6+ months of playing...no one plays him!
Why wasn't Urshifu included in the EX licences? It's a Legendary
I guess cuz its a minor legendary? Zacian and Ho-oh are box art and main legendaries of their gen and Mewtwo is the og legendary (the trio birds being minor legendaries themselves)
Why your thumbnail quality becaming down day by day??❤
How’s red bear 🐻
we still need a pokemon with a HOOK ability
hmm goodra? 😂😂😂😂
@@alperchil8106a good one
Does Slowbro not count?
I suppose the least they could do is make current hook moves better.
Goodra should still be able to move around while using Power Whip.
Slowbro should be completely Hinderance Resistant while using Telekinesis and heal more while holding a foe.
@@jakiru8783 lol you do know that both of this difender are monster at late game. just immagin a goodra that keep healing while in the middle of a fight and if you try to escape he can drag you back in if goodra can move while using vine whip. and as for slowbro its like suggecting to have a unite move in low CD.
sirging strike happy 3 anaversye
water just broke!
Instead of holowear. They should just realease other pokemon with the same move set as others. 900 pokemon and we get 65.
I would rather play a different pokemon with the same moves as another instead of playing a pokemon wearing a dress
This dude is NOT back
First
I don't think anyone is happy with this cancer buff
guau
3year reminder that this game was a waste of time
36 views in 2m
ya unite is pretty dead rn
431 views in 23 minutes??? spragels fell off lOll ahaha LMAOoo xdd