Luthen's Sneaky Little Spy Ship COMPLETE Breakdown (Fondor Haulcraft)
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Luthen's Fondor Haulcraft is the perfect ship for a spy in the Imperial era. Take a close look at a ton of little split second details you may have missed in Andor.
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UPDATE: Made a short based on some comments here pointing out that it might be the laser from the Ship Cutter. I think you'll agree.
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That actually makes a ton of sense. And the improved power generation would likely cover it.
Why are some of your videos unavailable/blocked ?
That's not starkiller's armor. Starkiller does not exist that was fanfiction. Its tulak hord's armor
Hey I would like to say that o think the reason that first aid kits are blue is because on earth the Red Cross is a dim le that if you are not threatening someone it is a war crime to attack them like a medic or a field hospital. So it might be blue do that Disney isn’t breaking the international laws of war. But again that is just my thoughts
Has anyone else noticed how many callbacks to Darth Maul that Luthan made over the course of the series? 1, He exists in the shadows, plotting and killing in secret until it is time to reveal himself in the open. 2, In the last episode he does the same thing that Maul does when he is hunting the Jedi on Tatooine, he leaves his ship, raises his dark hood and zooms away on a personal speeder, exactly as Maul did. 3, The ship even has a double-sided lightsaber, for crying out loud. This in no way can be all coincidence.
lol this is great the double saber made me bust out laughing but ur right it is pretty cool now i cant not picture this as maul turned into a ship
Maybe he was a spy who infiltrated the Mandalorian Maul faction during the Clone War. That would explain his skills in working in the shadows and the maulish mannerisms
@@dogloversrule8476 There’s many hints in the show he’s a Mandalorian including his choice of personal weapon, and deep knowledge of extinct races fighting styles. I think all the Disney Star Wars TV shows are heading towards a Mandalorian merger and Thrawn will be the ultimate big bad Avengers style in a few years.
@@thomascrabtree makes sense
@@MetaNerdzLore Haha it's the Fondor Maulcraft!
The star destroyer captain had the look of “What the hell just happened?” 😆
"And, how the hell am I going to explain this to my superiors?" 😕
Typical imperial arrogance lmao thinking he was untouchable and not being able to adapt to the situation
@@AngelXO96he did adapt
i LOVE the idea that Luthen's countermeasures weren't "flachette-style weapons" like it may first seem (which would probably have limited usage in space combat), but were actually just standard chaff designed to throw off missile and other targeting systems. Luthen boosted the engines to trick the imps into raising the tractor beam strength, so that when he launched chaff it was sucked into the tractor beam projectors at such a high velocity that just those tiny pieces of metal effectively shredded the projector dishes.
TL;DR it's not a custom, niche usage weapon that launches metal projectiles backward, it's just standard defensive chaff utilized in an incredibly creative way. GOD i love this show lol
Imagine using Flak shells filled with those vs Tie Fighters?
Is it possible that Luthen could be part of mauls syndicate? There’s so many hints at it imo
Would make sense he'd probably view them as a lesser evil and use them to get items he needs that would grab the imperial attention if brought legally
I am looking forward to more background stories on Luthen. Might be in novels or comics, but he is too good of a new character to not further develop and explore. I suppose we will learn more in Andor, but the Luthen character is a great character to build more stories on the shadowy underworld of society. I agree, his story could link into some past like with Berch Teller and the Antar Atrocity, etc.
For the lazer weapon hidden in the wings it reminds me of the ship cutting beams seen in the star wars fallen order game at the scrap yard.
That's where I saw it! Thanks i was asking someone else who mentioned it might be a scrap laser but couldn't remember where
@@MetaNerdzLore Always happy to help where I can with my wide array of science fiction tech and biology.
I personally loved Andor but absolutely hated the Haulcraft escape. It was unnecessary complicated and more than anything illogically dumb. Laserblades on a starship make no sense. One would need to fly so very close to a ship that the risk of collision for a non jedi is massive. Luthen is no jedi (despite being very interesting and a great character). Moreover the distances in space are relatively long. The opponent has very very many shots before the other ship being in slicing range. A system that relies on the opponents not being able to aim is dumb as heck. Honestly there is nothing to justify the laserblades on the ship other than the rule of cool.
Similarly the tractor beam part. Tractor beams have existed in the SW universe much before and during clone wars. Luthen "happens" to be so lucky to get caught up by the few that are using massive dishes to work. The counter tractor beam technology has never been on display before (fair enough Luthen is an atypically well off man with access to Coruscants finest wares). Still if the countermeasure isn't completely brand new then ships would have counter measures for them in place. Larger militaries for sure have access to technologies that Luthen does as well. They run multi quadrillion budgets in SW universe. Luthen siphons what little he can from the resistance funds.
I agree with the first part about the lasers, but I don’t see the issue with the “countermeasures”. Just because we haven’t seen anyone in SW use such a method to disable a tractor beam projector before doesn’t mean it’s impractical, or that everybody should be using it. For all we know, it’s luthen’s own unique design. And there are presumably other uses for it besides for escaping from one very particular type of imperial patrol cruiser.
It’s a big ass light saber 😂
Perhaps the best scene in all of Andor, and worthy of the Star Wars name and Fans. This is what we wanted from Boba Fett, nad Kenobi....
All I could think of while watching that scene is how much this ship must have costed. Probably the most expensive freighter in the Galaxy.
Yeah for sure up there
@@MetaNerdzLore definitely the most expensive tug boat
I imagine it'd cost about as much as an A-6E TRAM/SWIP Intruder, with all the weapons included, if not more
@@markluckins Tug Boat Supremacy 🗿
The Hound's Tooth Bossk's ship is the most expensive ship in canon costing 480,000 credits, I wouldn't be surprised if Luthen's ship cost 600-800k credits or even 1 million credits.
I personally think that Luthen is a Jedi Survivor. there are several key pieces of evidence that I find most compelling. the first is his extensible cane, which attention was directly drawn to during the season finale, which looks suspicously like a 2 handed lightsaber hilt with the cane retracted. the large kyber crystal he hands to Andor is abnormally large for a lightsaber, but not so much if it were placed into a longer hilt. he also went out of his way to point out that it was "blue Kyber" and that it was a symbol of defiance against the Rakata (which btw, I am super happy about being added to canon). the fact that he is in possession of all the ingredients for a lightsaber, and apparent knowledge of a jedi suggests that he could be a jedi survivor. another telling piece of info is during his conversation with Lonni, where he states that he hates having to use the tools of his enemy and that he had sacrificed everything in the name of rebellion, meaning he once was a man of openness and honesty, two traits that would describe a Jedi well. lastly is his beam weapon on the Fondor. two red beams of energy on a rotating axis is not so disimilar to the hilt of an inquisitor's lightsaber so it is possible that Luthen had encountered and defeated an inquisitor and repurposed their kyber crystals for a ship to ship weapon.add to this the precision in which he would have to execute the roll necessary to take out two ships at different ranges on different sides of his ship, this would undoubtedly require force sensitivity of a high degree.
just my personal opinion but then again I like thinking that there were more survivors than the 5 we know about.
Becoming a prominent antiquities dealer who specializes in high-end Coruscanti clientelle (like senators) might actually be the worst hiding place for a Jedi.
Luthen's ship has a Kyber reactor like the Death Stars
We’ve seen multiple non force sensitive pilots perform those moves in fighters and freighters. Luthen is a type of guy to prepare for any situation. When the situation arrives, he doesn’t panic and goes into what he’s been planning for. Andor shows without the Jedi, it’s falls to the regular people to save the Galaxy. It wouldn’t make sense story wise to make him a force user. It’s a reach to think he is even with all the antiques and exotic items he has.
Add to that his power of persuasion. He was able to recruit Andor for the heist, convinced Vel to let Andor join the team, got Lonni to not quit as a spy, and convinced Saw to stay put and let Kreegyr and his men die.
Luthen somehow was always successful in manipulating people to get what he wanted, not unlike Palpatine.
> it is possible that Luthen had encountered and defeated an inquisitor and repurposed their kyber crystals for a ship to ship weapon
LMAO, in those shitty cartoons - why not, they even using them as helicopters, surely wouldn't be a problem to just superglue their sabers to ship and voila. Gladly, Andor is much more sane and mature than this cringe stuff.
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I never analyzed the scene this deeply and I am so glad you did. I love this video, excellent work!
Yes, I agree. He/They (i.e., must be more people involved) really do great work.
I love this ship! It looks like the secret love child of the Millennium Falcon and Maul's Sith Infiltrator.
Thank you for. Being the only one to actually accurately identify the Fondor's countermeasures as Flechettes.
10:32 I kinda wish they had a young Jin Irso make a background cameo in Saw’s camp.
He wouldn’t be young. This timeline is only a few years before rogue one. Jin would already be a captive.
LOVE THE REFERENCE TO THE FARM TRUCK ,SHE IS A SLEEPING BEATY AT HER BEST!
The cockpits tech and displays feels like its straight designed for star wars squadrons lol
Not Starkiller's suit, it's just the helmet. There is a second one of these suits on display in the back of the shop as well. Both suits can be seen in episode 4. There is also an incomplete helmet sitting beside the Indiana Jones' carbonite blocks in episode 8. This single helmet is missing the 'feather' details and the side flaps that the other two have.
This means there are three Starkiller helmets in Luthen's shop. This leads me to believe these suits are from a warrior group and Starkiller simply took one of these helmets.
Nice theory but didn't he have it right when he woke up after the dark side ending of the force unleashed??
They’re Ubese helmets, Starkiller took from their cultural aesthetic, an earlier film example is Leia’s Boussh impersonation.
will say i would love a diecast model of this ship
It probably won't be the case, but for some reason I think he may have been an investigator for the banking clan. It would provide him with every skill and resource he'd need as well as the experience without being military intelligence and likely flagged.
"Pay to win upgrades" hahaaaa. Thatvwas awesome.
Oh man this brought back memories! I had a '75 Ford Elite Grand Torino back in the '90 that was covered in just primer and a lot of rust got alot of WTF reactions from drivers of Mustangs and Camaro's that thought it was a piece of junk when until she started walking them!😁😁😁
Think of the lasers on the Low Altitude Assault Transport/infantry... they were likely these...
their position would likely indicate they were for "strafing" runs. Flying beside larger hulled ships and slicing them open... or parking by a ship and slowly cutting through it.
hmm the more i think about it... they would/could pass for "scrapping lasers." For cutting large hulks up into smaller pices for towing... and justifying having such powerful beams by them being fixed. a pilot would have to align with the hulk, turn the laser on, start their cut flying a set course, then turning off the beam. the empire would be less worried about it as an offensive weapon and instead view it as a tool.
I like the scrapping laser idea, u remember seeing any user? I feel like we do but can't recall
@@MetaNerdzLore I think we see something like that in the venater graveyard in bad batch.
but could see ships like this working in pairs, one "fixes" say, a venator tower with a tractor beam, the 2nd cuts it free to be moved to a part for melting down and such.
because these kind of high power beams would be needed on scrap and salvage ships the empire might overlook it since its not a forward facing, or a turreted weapon.
He has a kyber crystal. Wanna bet those are industrial sized light sabers? That's no composite beam. It only goes so far before stopping but remains active until it's turned off. Those are ship mounted light lances.
Yeah the composite aspect is usually to amplify, so if not as strong as the B6 maybe it doesn't need the composite. But I think the lightsaber tech does make more sense than how silly some people make it seem.
@@MetaNerdzLore it's just scaled up tech. A small starship has the requisite power for them. Surprised no one ever thought of it before.
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Just out of my own headcanon I've always thought the targeting computer was something rarely used in Star Wars because of the ability for your enemy to employ electronic warfare which would make using an 'aim bot' really dangerous. It opens you up to countermeasures, not the least of which was your predictability. This is why the Republic used clones which could think for themselves and was shown in the Clone Wars series as a weakness of the separatists with their overreliance on droids. How many command droids did Anakin destroy, he even commented on how they'd just become so predictable even after upgrades. The rebels at Yavin probably only used targeting computers out of sheer desperation.
This would make Luthen a risk taker. He's putting himself in jeopardy using a targeting computer and leaving the aiming to an AI. He only has a few shots before his aim becomes predictable.
Basically 007 Aston Martin disguised as a fiat panda. In space.
I have a feeling that he was indeed a former Intel officer for the Republic. Even one that worked in special operations given the amount of knowledge he has and how he utilizes it. Remember his speech, he wrote the equation 15 years ago that had one logical conclusion. I don't think he was referring to the situation he believed himself to be in, but knowing that the war was manipulated and the rise of palpatine and the Empire only certified his suspicions.
In the first 3 minutes, I love your analogies.
Love how many of the instruments are hidden in small compartments, not out in the open.
Been waiting for this, thank you
First too
It reminds me more of the rogue shadow than any other ship
Excellent!
Thanks very much dear Sir.
LOVE Stellan, one of the greats in Hollyweird, that slides quite comfortably into a variety of roles. He definitely nails his role(s) as Luthen in Andor, to be sure!
His lads are turning into some quite talented actors as well!
Great initial episode on Luthen Real’s Fondor Haulcraft but what’s certain, I want one 😂🤣😂🤣😂
I think Luthen is a former Jedi who left the order long before the Clone Wars.
"I share my dreams with ghosts."
This line says a lot to me.
the spinny move with the laser beams convinced me the theory he was a jedi must be true....thats some precision and intuition combined with skill
I was just thinking. It would be cool if mando were to find this ship or buy it in the future, it’s perfect!
what a wonderful ship inside and out
Alright, you talked me into it. Let me go check out this show.
Definitely one of my favorite SW ships
What really struck me about this scene with the interdictor was the calmness of the imperials. They weren't excited, or yelling, or running around. They were calm, well trained, and competent. This was routine, and they had lots of practice.
And they still failed.
I like the ship how it's equipped with Lightsabers, used to slice up those tie-fighters. When andor asked what is powering the ship, and never got an answer, it must be powered by a kyber crystal.
Sweet ride.
Dope ride
😂 Farm truck kicks ass!!
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I had to go watch some videos of that drag racing farm truck, but now I'm back to finish this. xD
Dude you are a SERIOUS star wars nerdz!
12:09 the look on that commanders face says it all ""how on earth am i going to explain this away? ill be working a monitoring station on an Ice world before the weeks out""
green is also sometimes used for first aid kits and medical signs.
Luthen is clearly not a Jedi:
*his second name is Rael (from Rael Avaross)
*he sales Jedi relics
*have a cool stick that resembles a light saber
*his ship literally have light sabers
*carries a deeply personal feelings about kyber cristals
u should watch a short I made on this, I don't think the Avaross thing makes sense
The Emperor spared no expense in the creation of this ship for his top agent.
I think the Fondor bears a very strong resemblance to the Rogue Shadow from Force Unleashed
This is for sure now my new favourite ship and is the one id choose if I could have one - it used to be twe Millennium Falcon 😮...
One of the coolest and most powerful custom ships. It's up there with Xizor's Virago and the Falcon
Gosh you’re smart … love your analysis
Lol I'll take it
The Man with the Golden Haulcraft 😂.
I recall hearing about force using groups that were neutral not sith or Jedi my guess for luthen
@4:44 "this woman" yeesh
Hey MetaNerdz, when will The COMPLETE Life Story (Canon & Legends) video of Count Dooku be out? I’m anxious to see it.
Without a doubt those lasers are powered by kiber . This crystal was so central in the andor series and it isn't a coincidence there's huge red laser beams coming out of his ship
Just one quick behind the scenes point- blue is the colour of healing because the red cross that we associate with medicine is a protected symbol of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. Colouring it blue allows the audience to quickly recognize it as a shorthand for a medic without getting too close
they took plot armor up a whole level
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Another Ship that has stealth technology is the Ghost. I had mentioned in a comments section before that it would not surprise me that he helped get the Ghost up and running.
Yeah that is really interesting and got me hype for season 2
It would be a good tie in with Rebels if they went that route.
Just add something here there are 2 cannons that are placed on the inner edges of both wings forward . Not sure if they are autoblasters laser cannons or ion cannons. My choice would be auto blasters which are good for short range
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Wow videos are coming quickly. This is good
That ship remind me of the old republic fury class interceptor. Anyone else think that?
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I really hope this ship becomes a Lego set
This was an amazing video wtf
Thanks I'll keep em coming
@@MetaNerdzLore I really liked how you drew some deeper critical analysis of what seems like "just a cool ship" and compared it to Luthen's personality and even his role in the wider rebellion, and the themes and ideas the ship represents. Through your video i now see the ship as a vehicle for enhancing the storytelling, not just some piece of eye-candy.
Stellar work here. A book I read with like themes was a moment of epiphany. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze
So if *you* could make a stealth clunker like Luthen's haulcraft or the Ghost or Falcon, what ship would you start with?
I gotta start using clips more in Audible lol. Cool vid I was hoping for this one ;)
Love your content and his ship is really cool
I'm not convinced that Scarif was a shipyard. It only had a shield gate to protect the highly classified research base on the surface.
You forgot about Rendili. They built ships and vehicles for the GAR and they continued to manufacture ships and vehicles for the Empire.
I think this ship will be Luthen Rael's undoing. This ship has a lot of mods and that cost a lot of money. Money that can be tracked.
Yeah that would be interesting
Wow
Btw the Ghost was the first ship we saw with “stealth” tech.
Luthen's ship was very cool, but the lightsaber wings was straight up cheesy and unnecessary. All the other details and characteristics was well thought out and well implemented into the show.
The Millenium Falcon was as fast as the Ebon Hawk. One is 4000 years older
Hey man I can't find your videos from over 3 years ago. Are they member exclusive or deleted. Please make them available again
I address it all in a community post and in that membership video intro thing. Basically the older vids are hurting the channel in the algorithm
@@MetaNerdzLore alright
If tractoring and manipulating space were done at speed, I would expect it to create a form of drag on the ship, much like how a supermassive black hole will lose a bit of spin every time it ejects a stellar body, eventually causing it to collide with a binary pair partner.
Haha nice start to the video.
This is compelling writing. A comparable book I read had a transformative effect on me. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze
I don't think luthen is a jedi but i think his lover was. Something about his big speech points to that somewhat possibility. He is not sentimental about himself since every part of him is a weapon to be used for the cause. That crystal might be the last bit of his better half.
I wonder if LEGO will create other Ferrix related sets besides the tack pod 🤔
In Star Trek they used tractor beams to deflect attacks.
That's in repulse mode.
This is really a pay to win ship! That’s some activision level shit right there
I don't think the "Blue bag" of the medical bag means anything. The Galactic, and the Imperial had red sigil for medical. We have even seen both have A red sigil for Medical unit staff. The color really matters little. If anything a blue medical bag is typically your Emergency Trauma Bag, while Red is your typical Medical supplies.
I would also like to point out that Athakam Medtech who supplies most of the galaxies medical supplies uses Red sigils for their symbols. Nothing was specifically Blue for any reason that was noted. Athakam Medtech supplied both empires.
There has been a few med centers we have also seen from the Imperial side that shown a boxes with the a red sigil.
Clone medical troopers oddly had orange sigil but their bags had black medical sigils. So that part sorta odd in the verse.
I think the blue medically bag was a tad too fine of a strand to be pulling on.
The batmobile of star wars
I’m adding this up there with one of my favorite ships
From what film is that taken?
Maybe instead of making a Death Star they could make smaller ships with these lasers.
I believe luthen is a full dark jedi. He is most likely a member of some order Palatine wiped out.
He could be a modest power level. So challenging Palatine in person is useless.
So he is using the rebellion for his revenge.
That’s my thought as well. No way a normal pilot could cut through both Tie fighters like that.
Why are your mandalorian ships blocked/private ?
It's a neat ship. It sure is a ship worthy to learn more about
This is one of my favorite ships in star wars
This is the sort of ship Han Solo DREAMS of and could likely have had if he had both Luthen's wealth and resources.
Hey its likely u won't see this but many of your older videos don't work something about its not available,
The videos i found ate the belator, mc 85 and mc 90 theres likely to be many more
Basically the older vids are hurting the channel, I was going to set them to private, but membership is how I can make them "private" to the UA-cam algorithm, but still let people who want to see them have access, and will put out other more casual vids and different content there.