stevo728822 , yes practice your own religion in your own home, but America was formed (our constitution) on Christian values. Our country works because we all do until others what we'd like others to do to us. Ours is a values system. It's the glue that holds our society together, so that everybody else in the world wants to live here. Ours is an immigrant country but they all integrate and work and give back to America. That's why it works.
Topher S , no, it doesn't mean we can force others to worship as Christian's do. We all have free will. Without it, all our good intentions and worship preferences mean nothing. Right?
Actually it says the state shall adopt no religion....it doesn't say how society of a majority religion will treat you if you worship trees, the sun, or nothing at all.
Slightly different situation. The "people they hate" (immigrants) have acknowledged the futility of their prospects in other countries and come here seeking to advance themselves in life. These rural communities have relied on low skill manufacturing jobs that used to be good jobs when hair dryers and dish washers were new technology. Now they don't have the ability to see with clarity their prospects for life working low skilled manufacturing is bleak. They do not make the connection that the "people they hate" make, which is that their situation is bad and they need to do something to change it. These people feel entitled to making good money for work that is not valuable anymore. And they're angry at the world because now they have to adapt to the changing times. This is really the most pathetic display of American entitlement.
crystal mills, you were not paying attention closely. The Trump voters (like Republicans generally have before Trump) generally had a harsh view of public assistance. The non Trump voters were much harsher on the jobs that paid little and the lack of concern for the poor and working class. I detest Trump and everything he stands for. But this is the kind of attitude that alienates many working class folks from the Democrats.
Why would you complain about the imperfections of the social programs you need and then vote for the party that doesn't want to expand those social programs?
That never made sense to me.. That heavy set women in the light blue shirt was on disability and I was wondering considering she looked healthy why she was on disability.. And yet she was bashing those on disability... Its interesting.. I was on disability(SSI) back in the 90's because I was diagnosed with cancer.. I got better and found a job and got off of disability...
MarcusTv, very true, and coal is an archaic, dirty energy source which should be in decline. However, the places that have relied on coal for decades have not been assisted with a viable alternative. The places where coal is in decline (by market forces as well as by government initiatives) should be assisted in transforming their economies. This has not occurred.
It's really doesn't make sense when you look at the timeline. Most of the decline in coal jobs happened from 19800's to the early 2000's. The Obama administration didn't see anywhere near as sharp of a decline as the Regan and first Bush administrations.
The irony is that these people who are pro coal end up spending more on medical bills because of black lungs than if they were to get another less paying job at Walmart
Who is to blame? How about the corporations that chose to move their factories abroad? How about all the folks who shopped in Walmart, etc., all that time before industry moved out - they bought Chinese goods and then complained when their jobs were moved abroad. As for coal, it's a dead end. I've known too many people who ended up with black lung when there was underground mining. You're living in the past, if you think that's where the world is going.
No one is going to make coal great again, no one wants it. No mines will stay open none wants to buy it. Obama didn't create the war on coal, it's no longer needed or wanted. Send your young out to get an education in an industry that will be sustainable. Learn skills yourself that make you employable.
Mygunsgoboom how about the fact that no one wants coal any more. There simply isn't a global market for it. Obama knew this hence made it difficult to get a permit. The fact that you want to blame him is immaterial, under Trump, all hail your saviour. Dig all the coal you want, except no one want to buy it. There is no market, not even within the US for it. Many countries now run entirely on renewable sources and no country now wants to trade with Trump his word means nothing, any trading partner is now looking elsewhere to buy and sell goods so even if there was a market no country would trust Trump to keep his word to provide a consistent affordable product. The world can do without the US, the world has already in this year moved on a lot without the US every year the US will fall further and further behind and have less and less trading partners. Less and less relevant technology, and Silicon Valley with its entreneurs will go else where.
"Why should we help addicts?" "Why should we help the environment?" "Why should we help the jobless?" "Why should we care about urban problems?" and then "Why is nobody helping us with our problems?". I get that desperation causes this mindset, but do these people listen to themselves?
It's disappointing how most of these people don't understand the impact globalization has had on their own communities, or the opportunity that green manufacturing might provide. Not one of them said anything like, "We need to be re-trained, we need another path forward as the economy and country adapts to the effects of globalization and renewable energy."
And that sir seems to be the issue. Don’t sit on your ass complaining, get up and upskill or retrain! More importantly America is stuffed because of this spiteful attitude about taxes. I think people need to remember that taxes are also paid, for the privilege of living in a secure and stable country. Shut the hell up wanting to dictate in that spiteful manner who gets what from that tax. People need financial support. Broaden welfare and ensure money is being spread around creating a stimulus to small business, which in turn creates jobs. People on the whole don’t complain about corporate welfare enough and the trillions thrown at them to waste! It certainly doesn’t filter down. Use welfare as a stimulus, which also decreases crime and violence and consequently the strain and cost on prison system. Americans have been had for far too long and need to bloody start another revolution or something!
surferdjnj They live in the past. They are angry. They can't imagine another way of living. I.e. education, training programs etc. I lived in Ashtabula, I know their attitude. Stuck in the 70's much?
Being that i have to spend 50k in education to end up getting a 20k a year job. Ya no. Why i quite, especially as the crap i was being "taught" i already learned first hand actually teaching the teachers. Thats pathetic. Then i get bashed and prevented a job as i dont have a degree yet know more than and piece of paper will tell you. Now, tell me the logic of "training" when i can school you in performance and knowledge? Just because a piece of paper you make more than me by a couple thousand. yet ou hold ya more bills than i do. Those "green jobs" wont do shit. They are not logical in a rural community. They will soend more time and money in transportation costs, either it be electical or vehicle wise, that it logically/cost effectivly doesnt make sense. Rural communities are being left as jobs move to a city. They are with no opprituniities or can they afford to move. Besides their ways are forbidden in a city where your taxed to death, and told where to fart even graded on it smelling. Thats sad, and i refuse to live in those situtations.
Snipe Stud00 what? Well if you think you are going to get a 20k job with an education you are picking basket weaving. I got laid off from my 15 yr job, moved (not far), got my education, got a great job and was able to retire at 55. It's not that hard.
Toms Friend Kake I completely understand that however, it’s still a dependence on someone else. These companies and factories are owned by people who are in business. Unfortunately these business owners don’t care about your livelihood. They just want to function in the best way to make the most amount of money. I for one, will NEVER allow my entire livelihood to be dependent on someone else to give me a job. That is not what the American dream is about. Get out there! Get college degrees, and learn a new skill! Don’t wait for another big employer to come into your town! This is not something that the government can teach people or give them!
The government also ether payed or regulated company to move out. It more about UN agenda to make it unsustainable to live in rural parts of the country.They want to make a lot of America no go zones. They want people to live in smart cities and reduce the population and control it. California if going though that right now. The old being destroyed with regulations and sustainable housing being built. When they cut off water to farmers do you think they where able to pay debt on there farms. Take a look what the Obama and Clinton's done to farmers that had uranium they sold to russia. They sent in the BLM with regulations and tried burning them off the farm. The Bundys in Nevada the judge dismissed case and let them out of prison. The government doesn't have a right to steal, murder and use economic terrorism on it's people.
I wonder why that woman wouldn't want her child to be fluent in multiple languages. It's not like children that know multiple languages are statistically at an advantage than children that don't.
My mother tells my brothers and me to always speak Spanish in front of our kids. A person who speaks 2 languages is worth 2 in the job market.They will learn English at school.
I wouldn't like that, I learned English on my own and only cause I wanted to an needed to. If you don then don't, focus on other things like engineering architecture or somthing that requires a lot from you that way you can succeed as well.
I feel bad for kids that belong to parents that don't want them to learn beyond the basic skills required because it makes them "uncomfortable." You're setting up these kids to fall behind
They should be teaching them different languages so they can own businesses. Learn accounting and computer skills. Invest in permaculture practices. Dang.
The good paying factory(union) jobs are never coming back. Those young enough to be retrained, learn new skills and move to the coast. The others good luck, you’re going to need it. For what it’s worth, stop voting against your own self interest.
I agree about voting against their own interests but telling entire communities to just teach themselves new skills, get up, and move, is insane. You sound like a conservative.
@@darylp8564 here you go there fat boy straight from the fake news itself so you can't deny it 450,000 manufacturing jobs since he took office put that in your crack pipe and smoke it you f****** loser!
did you not know that the English people speak one dialect while the USA speaks another dialect!!! It is not the same!!!! I guess that is why we speak american?! England believes that we speak the wrong English!
MrFrankqu58 And you do realize that in America there are different variations of “American” English. Stop being a moron....it’s English plain and simple. American is not a language and to use it in that way just shows how utterly stupid you are.
It goes to show that Kay does not know how to read! Look at my comment carefully, I said English people from England said we speak the wrong English, what is it that you do not understand. You call me a moron, now I say, look in the mirror, KAY, and call yourself a moron!!
MrFrankqu58 Ugghhhh...people like you are the reason why the US educational system is a joke. Go ask an english 8th grade teacher what it means to speak American and I’m sure he’ll/she’ll gladly enlighten your poorly educated self. I bet you think we use American math here and they use English math there too.
Randy H Speak American or English, güey? Tell me something, Randy, if if if you go to other countries do you learn to speak their language before going there? It is people like you that has this country in this state of affairs. Tarado.
Cristina Briones Fourzan I don’t think you understood the context. I was criticizing the woman in the video who said that statement. Hence the quotations.
Best comment, easiest to understand. If you came to America from Botswana or Argentina or Austria, why would you expect Americans to speak their languages?
Learning another language is going to be a requirement thanks to people like you. Quebec force the entire nation of Canada to adopt french as their second language because they refuse to adopt to Canadian culture at large. Get ready for that here only with a multitude of languages.
@@angelcitystudio lol wh6 are you so obsessed with an accent lol, also many of them do read and write at a much higher level than thoes in liberal areas, especially california which has the worst literary rates in the country
@@josh18230 In what world you live, bilingualism in Canada is only true in Quebec where more than half of the population is bilingual while in the rest of Canada not even 8 % of the people are bilingual. Stop being mad you angryphone.
@@josh18230 and also what does "they refuse to adopt the canadian culture at large" means ? Isn't quebec and french part of the canadian identity and thefore culture ? Your arguments are stupid considering that the two languages are in the constitutions and that french canadian and english canadian are considered founding people of canada.
Alexander Jason If you ever happen to come across Mark Dice here on UA-cam, check him out. Then you'll clearly see just how fucking retarded the mentally enslaved progressive is. No seriously, it's embarrassing seeing how stupid people in Southern California are. I'm not saying all of them of course, but my god it's bad. I didn't vote in 2016, IMO, they all sucked. But to say Trump voters shouldn't be allowed to vote without an IQ test, though you believe people who supported the most corrupt politician within the last century shouldn't have to take a test. Hell, they shouldn't have to show ID either right. Lol I mean that's saying something, I thought pappy Bush was bad but fucking Hillary is like feminazi Ashly Judd would say, "a nasty woman" Oh and let's not forget about that old shriveled up nut sac of a commie Bernie. The 21st century Bolshevik fighting for the people, while living out of 3 multimillion dollar mansions. Lol Yeah only someone with a giant lump of shit stuck between their ears would support that old fart. Anyway, there are countless videos out there, other than Dice's that show the amount of stupidity coming from the left. Ya know, the chanting SJW's, aka the useful idiot on the college campus. The BLM movement or the Antifa asswipes in the streets burning garbage cans. There's literally hours of great humor watching these indoctrinated, zombie like, retarded creatures showing the whole world how fucking stupid they are.
Paul Judkins .It is possible, Everybody has their own perspective, I Think these people are very poor and not well educated. But ask yourself this, y would a millionaire want to help, the people that he takes advantage of?
They are advocating industrial capitalism as opposed to financial capitalism as being in their best economic interest....you contemptuous 'genius' progressive
Those used to exist, and could again, if we just demand it like our grandparents did. There's literally no reason we cannot have it, except that we've come to accept that we can't.
PS Wright You either don’t know anything about economics or you are willing to exponentially increase the costs of your consumer goods. Do you know how automation works? Demand all you want, uneducated rural people won’t change the laws of economics or capitalism. If you want a high paying job get an education, position yourself in a growing field and move far away from those rotting ghost towns.
I am glad I have an electrical engineering degree and an MBA. Many of these people do not understand that those jobs were going away 10 years ago! It was just planning and waiting for the advancement of technology. I went to a program where we had to design solar-powered model cars and race them against other participants in the program. I was 10 or 11. I am 36 now. These people complain about immigrants, blacks, browns, jews, and so on and do not want to put in work. This still is a great and always will be a good country, but you look at these people and just shake your head.
Toms Friend Kake So instead they blame some politicians, immigrants and everyone else. Meanwhile, they shop at Walmart, buy things made in China and are shocked when jobs go overseas..No one said it is easy.
rural town leaders don't want high paying employers in their town because they are the business owners and don't want to have to pay their employees higher wages.
So stop catering to blue collar, minimum wage jobs.
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federalreserve Brown The illegal didn't have a goddamn thing to do with keeping your wages down . If the bosses wouldn't hire them they wouldn't work for those low wages .
John: think about it. If a "high-paying" employer ( IT, finance, etc.) moved to small town America they're likely not competing with the local mom & pop business for the same employees and the well-compensated jobs they bring mean that established local businesses have more customers with more money to spend. A local business owner would give anything for that to happen. Struggling small towns are constantly trying to woo companies offering great jobs.
federalreserve Brown LOL! BS! Unless you're doing farming jobs.Outsourcing ended most of that. Manufacturing went to China. Service jobs went to India.Silicon valley should be renamed H1b visa valley. If US wasn't an oligarchy. You could go after the corps.
That's not true and you know it. If anything, I could claim that it's these same people who chose "Right To Work(for less)" administrators and governments that drew factories to their states for cheaper wages. Just that now, as capitalists are wont to do, they found even cheaper wages overseas. Now it sucks to be you.
@JB and Abbey You are so RIGHT, and I LOATHE Trump, but these identity politics, blind, IN-DENIAL idealists, are just as ignorant, dangerous & frustrating, LOL..
Whats the big deal ofdemanding first generation immigrant to speak English ？the second generations born here who does not speak English？ what’s the rush？
There's a profound lack of accountability in some of these people. They are definitely preyed on by politicians. They have definitely been taken advantage of by corporations. But they also have to take some responsibility for the trajectory of their own lives.
Ashtabula county has voted for a democrat in every election since 1988, until 2016. It doesn’t matter who is in power, the area will continue to rot away regardless
@@vellabella1 ok but the point is that this is USA and you should speak English/American. Problem with native Americans is that they were nomads so they didn't have any country in which English settlers could join to. Yes there were many is true and problem is again they didn't have any country or a state. Even if Steelers learned one tribes language there are still a whole lot of them they need to learn.
@@tincaktas2745 Nevertheless, Europeans didn't adapt to any of cultures of the people living on this continent. Many Native-Americans were not nomads like the Iroquois Confederacy whose system of government helped form ideas for American democracy and the Constitution. Saying Native Americans had no country is denial or defense mechanism against guilt for stealing their land and repeatedly breaking treaties which continues today. If you want to do the right thing now, at least open a history book and learn the truth.
There are billions of people desperate for any employment in the developing world willing to build dishwashers and hair dryers for much much much less than any American could accept for equal labor. This means we can buy cheap hair dryers from them, and focus our productive efforts into something more valuable. Trying to compete with them in low skilled manufacturing areas is not just moronic, it is completely impossible. Those jobs are not coming back to America, ever. If you want to work a low skill factory job move to China. Americans need more pride in their status as technological leaders of the world. Americans need to do the work that the rest of the world has not figured out how to do yet.
In my opinion, rural people have no concept of what super-rich means? To most the local owner of a business, that has a big house, is rich. Those people are lower middle class in a big metropolitan area. You cannot conceive of people that spend in one day, what you make in a year. So, you want to blame the government, when it is the super-rich that has done a coup d'etat on the politicians. Since they pay for the politician's election bills, they now call in the favors. Those investment people get tax rates of 15% their income to sit on their bum. You go out and work day after day pay 30% in taxes tell me how that is fair. They sold you down the road, it was not the government that twisted the arms of these people to move the factories and your jobs overseas. Trump will not help you, he just mortgaged your children's future giving the wealth of the nation to his corrupt croony business elites.
Really great that Ms. McCroskey points out that not all people who seek rehab are the stereotypical "junkies with self-inflicted issues." She dispels that stereotype with her honesty. Most people would be surprised by the wide range of folk who need help.
So what if they are stereotypical junkies...we're supposed to have frontline first responders make judgement calls on who gets to live and die when called about potential overdoses? Not to mention the fact that sending people to rehab is much cheaper than sending them to jail and their children to foster care; even when its just temporarily successful, muchless when it's permanent. And that's just the direct cost alone that are more costly. Then when you factor in all of the policing and effects of crime ridden neighborhoods due to drug use. Prevention and treatment is far cheaper than just criminalization, and F it, let'em die. Beyond the inhumanity of that retired machinist's position is the fiscal stupidity of the fact that policies drawn from his hatefulness cost tax payers more money, not less. But this kind of hate trumps logic and finances.
On the other hand, she plays into the stereotype that there are "good" junkies, and "bad" ones, ones that "deserve" treatment and understanding, and ones that don't. After 7 years treating people with addictions, I can tell you, that's mostly bullshit. The doctor's scrip did NOT get her addicted. She had an addictive behavior pattern, exacerbating her genetic predisposition, a ready supply, and an excuse... just like every other addict. Her window dressing is just prettier, is all.
Good point about her addiction only being better window dressing. These people really don't take responsibility for anything. Indeed the doctor ddn't make her an addict. I've had percocet and oxycodone prescriptions before that I didn't even finish, and in one case never even fulfilled the original prescription.
Senaleb youre a fucking idiot. Are you referring to the seven years' war? There really wasnt a "war", white people just came in stole land, killed, raped, and pillaged but ok.
You have to understand that 7 states of this country spoked Spanish before it was taking from Mexico. Those 7 states are some of the biggest states of the USA. So yeah a lot of people speaks Spanish here... and they will always ...
Taken? We have back half of the land we won in the war. Plus, we paid your president for the states we kept, in gold. So maybe Mexico needs to go back to that president to see what happened to all that gold we paid him. Then maybe that old lie about the US taking mexico's land can be put to rest. Cus we're tired of hearing it.
@@carnissan6728 yep. Their country is 3rd world garbage and they need a villian as an excuse. I'd tell them to pick up a rifle and make the changes...as we did long ago.
ENGLISH is THE international language of business, science, medicine, ETC, & that's a FACT. Because of this reality, the vast majority, including native English speakers, will NOT, significantly advance socioeconomically unless they learn to speak, read & write English property & grammatically, WELL. It's GOLD, baby., & a privilege to speak English, TRULY...
I wonder if any one of these people ever thought about going to a technical college, or any institute of higher education, to learn about how to use the modern technology being used in any of the coal or automotive or steel industries today? It seems to me they would look to educating themselves and their children in order to keep up with these changes.
@@masterpalladin bruh tech school an community college basically free Pell grant an financial aid basically pays for it all online an everything I got a associate degree for free basically
I don't understand the woman who disagrees with having her child learn a second language in kindergarten. Aren't foreign languages more likely to 'stick' and easier to learn when they are learned at young ages? Isn't that better for her child?
Not only that, but kids who learn two or more languages at a young age have better brain function and it may help them learn things faster as they age.
Tax paying institutions should not teach languages from other countries, America is built on the English language, our constitution is only written in one language, it is idiotic to pay taxes to teach citizens to learn any other language.
@@psyche100 zero evidence at all that that is true. There are plenty of nations with bilingual or trilingual people that have a far lower IQ rate than Americans.
@@josh18230 I am not convinced that teaching multiple languages is 'idiotic' simply because our founding documents are written in a certain language. Doesn't learning multiple languages open up more opportunities for Americans and make communication with people from other cultures easier? While it is certainly useful and convenient for a society to have a language in common, I don't understand the leap from that idea to the idea that it is somehow detrimental to a society for it to provide school children with the opportunity to learn additional languages at the time in life when they are most apt to retain the information. People from all over the world learn English so that they can do business with English speaking countries. Isn't it depriving our own citizens if we don't set them up to have the same ability to seize opportunities elsewhere?
No-one mentioned being retrained with a skill. It's quite interesting that they talk about personal responsibility but will not move so that they can have a better life. Further, their values are no different than anyone else. Wow....ignorance really do ruin lives.
The irony is that they are in this shit situation because the state has abandoned them and no longer invests in their area, the corporatists got rid of the unions and they have been royally shafted. Yet they still want the state out of their lives and still vote for the politicians bought by the corporatists who drove them to their misery. Yet instead of recognizing that they fall in line for whomever gives them empty promises and caters to their insecurities to make them feel good and not forgotten.
@ karlVyt. Back in the day, when dishwashers and hair dryers were new technology, making them came with good pay. Why? When "stuff" like this was invented in America, the rest of the world had to buy it from us. Europe was really the only developed society capable of copying our products and competition was much much lower. We exported these products around the world, "made in the USA". Now, there are billions of people in the developing world willing to work for much less than any American would accept. Today, it is economically impossible to employ an American to make dishwashers, at least for decent pay. It is not a matter of being forgotten. In today's world, this work is not valuable, because there are billions and billions who will work harder for almost nothing. Billions will do your job for less, which makes your labor less valuable period. End of story, its just basic economics. It has nothing to do with the state or the government or the politicians. These are scapegoats. It has everything to do with billions of people producing abundance very very cheaply as they lift themselves out of poverty and agrarian (farming) lifestyles. Any politician who says they can change this situation is lying for votes, playing on the hopes and fears of these bitter people. Successful Americans today are working in start-up companies producing new innovations that the world has never seen. These are jobs that can not be sent over seas. To make innovate on smart phone design today is the equivalent of producing dishwasher back in the day. These are the true American innovators. We need more people with skills that allow them to do work that the billions in the developing world can not do. This is American exceptionalism, it is the American spirit and always has been. And because America only has 5% of the worlds population, we it should be a national imperative to be the most advanced 5% in the world. This is the only way to stay ahead in today's global world, to get ahead and keep moving forward.
Only of these people can figure out what skill they can learn that would let them stay in their rural setting could they ever retrain and stay where they are.
do you mean speak native Indian ? america has England to thank for it's language , ps the English language ,. what I see often is Americans cant even pronounce the names of the countries they invade , lazy slang , but I do see it here also migrants come and try to change our ways to that of the country they left , and talk mainly in there own tongue , if we could only turn back time , where would you go back to ,
@@nukerzerothefirst3417 News flash, so called Native Americans immigrated here too so there's that troubling fact... smh. Do a bit of actual research before opening your mouth.
danceswithcritters - oh they eat! But they are almost all obese, so what are they actually eating? And none can make critical judgements, nor think and evaluate in anything other than a most basic and simplistic manner. To whose benefit is that the working people of America are kept and maintained in this state? I would suggest Trump and his rich cronies.
Sounds like liars to me.... I need more proof of their actual qualifications and how they achieved that position they once obtained ..... since they're in everybody else's business ...let's put them on trail....
Precisely. If you're going to live on the frontier, you better have frontier skills. These people want to be part of the modern economy but are unwilling to pay the price to leave or create exports. Some of them can't leave because of the 'equity' in their home. Millennials will not be buying these homes from them. They are the last buyers and don't even know it. Bankruptcy won't save them. Only welfare and ss checks will prolong the inevitable till they die alone penniless from something entirely treatable.
I lived in a rural town for a few years but once I realized there was no opportunity I moved back to the city and have never regretted that decision. From what I experienced most people just had a poverty mindset and a high school education which in turn just complained about where they lived and the wages they made. You can't change that sheltered mindset they were born and raised with but sometimes there are exceptions to that rule. If you want change make it yourself no matter how long it takes or how old you are? Excuses and blaming others are just slowing you down while the world around you succeeds.
The reason these people fear they're being forgotten is because they are being forgotten. Rural life has no appeal to most people, with more and more college educated kids and less need for manufacturing they are going to want to live near a metropolitan area. And who wouldn't? What do rural areas offer to people? Basic supply and demand.
Rural areas offer clean air, clear skies to see the stars, a more integrated community usually, a slower pace of life so one can enjoy the moment, privacy, and plenty of space. A lack of understanding or respect for rural life doesn't depreciate the true value to people who do understand it and respect it.
@@alysa7364 I am from a farm family so I know what clean air and star studded nights are like. Privacy and plenty of space are certainly two the few benefits of rural living. I left the rural area I grew up in because to me the star studded beautiful nights are nice to visit but I don't want to live there. It wasn't slower paced at all. Because we were so far away from civilization we had to rush to get on the road to commute or shop for the basics. It wasn't more of an integrated community either. Integrated communities were something that happened when the baby boomers were growing up. Today young people often have bizarre working hours so they struggle to find common times to be social. (Our apartment currently has 5 residents and all of us work bizarre hours. How can you socialize with your neighbors after work when you get home at 1am?) Forget about basic web access too. The closest ISP didn't want to come out that far because of low population which means that barring government investment the ISP won't even recoup their infrastructure investment. I don't want to live in an asphalt jungle but close enough to civilization that commute times are sane and I don't need to spend hours in the car driving to get my basic necessities/errands done.
@@jessicaharris1608 Thank you for your reply, Jessica. Our experiences have been slightly different in regards to rural areas but you made a lot of good points regarding things like odd work hours contributing to less socialization, poorer infrastructure, and long commutes. Some rural areas are better than others at these considerations, but rural areas are still less accommodating in general than more populated areas. It all depends on your values and what you're willing to sacrifice.
"it isn't like it used to be" because the manufacturing jobs that substantiated families in middle America moved to foreign countries. Under capitalism, the corporation is interested in the profit instead of the worker. If these people realized that capitalism is what is making their job prospects so bleak possibly there could be a better future. If workers control the means of production then there will be no jobs moving overseas since workers will control their own companies and will not make decisions averse to their interests. Instead these people support the party that wants to allow these corporations an even more free market that will do nothing for them as workers, this makes NO sense.
Capitalism is the best form of economic government. Anything thing else is a perfect reality dreamworld like communism/socialism. Others are just awful exe. Fascism
You can't have it both ways...as consumers, we want the lowest priced 'everything'! Companies are in business to make a profit, not to create jobs. The jobs are a by-product of the effort to meet the consumer's needs. Companies will always find the lowest priced production source - it's key to their survival. With technology, product design and production can be done overseas, wages are lower. You still want the lowest priced shirt? Washing machine? What about a car? It will not stop...blue collar has gone...white collar is the next wave to go. Think about it...I'm communicating with you and potentially thousands of others and we'll never meet. That's through technology our grandparents couldn't dream about.
The conversation sounds like a lot of regret, in my opinion the lost part of the conversation is educational levels of rural America. The question we should be asking is do Americans have adequete educatiion in order to understand social and political dynamics.
There is a problem. It is they, as conservatives, who will resist improved education; because the improved education leads many people to conclude that conservative ideas are failing modern America.
They do. Thing is...Humans hate learning...apart from the miracles in East Asia( do they really question policy that much?) Where else are people educated enough? I think even in western Europe it is just a question of a leadership that is not hell bent on thieving...I doubt whether that 'imagined' educated threshold is achievable ( having everyone educated at the same level is Communistic utopia)...Humans look for a way to stop the pain of learning and therefore after attaining a certain level (yet learning is life-long)...they stagnate and just become jaded and heavily indulgent in blame-shifting/buck passing! Unlike comps, humans are expected to keep updating until the brain atrophies; that is life-long learning; it makes you accept that you don't know it all...the Ego hates that disposition!
That is not nice nor is it helpful. I really appreciate the commentary, because it opens the door for conversation. I'll be glad when we come out the immature back and forth instead of listening, respecting and responding in kind.
tallthinkev there is a reason why we have ghost towns out west. If they can't find good jobs they should move, get an education and get a decent job, which is exactly what i did. It is not the governments job to get you a good job for unskilled workers who want to live where companies do not want to locate there. Quit expecting the gov to take care of you. And i am a flaming liberal. Disability is being abused and what makes it funny is everyone i know on disability is a republican and none are disabled. Whinners!
Toms Friend Kake i did not say get a degree, i said get a skill. I have interviewed MBAs that could not write a complete sentence and people with no degree that are scary smart. A skill is marketable. I would also say if a person today has an education/skill and are still working crap jobs, it is their fault. There are over 5 million job openings but people don't have the skills.
Sorry, because I'm undoubtedly nitpicking, but we speak English here in the USA, not American (7:30), just as there's no such language as Canadian, Kiwi (New Zealand), British, Caribbean, nor Australian. They're all the same language with a different accent, and terminology.
An interesting side note: Although, around the turn of the century, that is at the beginning of the 20th century, there had been a significant diversion between English in America and England; that some linguists started talking about an American language. And essentially that is how new languages are born: they normally evolve from other existing languages. But modern communication technology brought the two variants of English again closer together, and discussion of the "American Language," disappeared.
@@neveklund3267 Wrong, English is our root language. As the melting pot of people from the world we have words from all the world. What we speak is very different from what was called the Kings English. Yes we speak American.
That's always confused the bejesers out of me: you barely take care of themselves, but will be selfish and stupid enough to think that somehow the world owes them something because they are stupid, useless & braindead: SORRY, BUT NO DAMNED WAY IN HELL!!!! Get a grip on reality & grow a brain
struggle is part of life....look at how a baby struggles to live and learn to talk...shirking that because of poverty is self-defeating. Ever since man crawled out of slime...it's been a struggle...from struggle comes solutions...we all can't be Bill Gates..did you know that Diarhea is hereditary? it runs in your Jeans!
Whats dumb is did you know Obama with a executive order tried to regulate and steal rural private land. The rural communities are under attack and have been for years with UN agenda 21 and now it's changed to 2030. We fault it here in Arkansas where he was trying to take control 71 million acres of private land. We know how this crap works they go into a area remove jobs and try regulate you into bankruptcy and then take your land. I'm not looking for Trump to save me and looking to get the boot of the government off my neck.
That's the sad part, their hatred and bigotry is being exploited by the very President that doesn't care for them because they are poor. It's even sadder that they believe learning another language is bad thing, as if it makes them less superior than they think they are already.
This is why that one guy on AskReddit who answered the question "How united is America?" said "Smart people in Metropolitan Areas vs Dumb people in Rueal Areas"
One The Crow ! , Democrats always expose themselves as the racists they truly are. When they say things like "we need illegal immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do ", "black people are incapable of obtaining an ID to vote ", or "white people have a special privledge that no other race will ever obtain". People have caught on to the racist Democrats division games. Exactly why the violent democrats are losing supporters.
Phillip Long, Really, "Democrats expose themselves as the racist " did Democrats converge in Charlottesville, flying confederate and nazi flags yelling "JEWS WIL NOT REPLACE US" You no nothing of the southern political realignment after LBJ passed the 1964 CRA do you? aaaahh!! WTH. Its like talking to a rock.
I thought it was odd that they attributed so many problems to (illegal) immigrants when they're only 1% of the county's population. It's like, you don't think they share your values? How would you know? The urban residents didn't seem to think that way as much, and they have far more exposure to them. It reminds me of that Brexit vote. The rural Brits wanted to keep foreigners (namely Poles) out of the country, but Polish people didn't even live around them, they lived around London. And what did the London residents say? That they like the Poles! And the urban residents don't share your values, either? How so, because they're "rushed"? Is that really a disqualifier for commonality? You said they're rushed because there are so many unfamiliar faces and they're all trying to make money, but you advise your kids to go to the city, to bust their butts and make a good living? What do you think that's going to look like?
I believe there is some truth to a difference in rural and urban people's values, but no facts where presented to show that these differences exist or what these differences are, specifically. This video simply doesn't support such a hypothesis, albeit, I think such an hypothesis will ultimately be proven true.
No Steve, they are desperate. I was raised in a small mining town but have lived in large cities, St. Louis for 8 years and San Antonio Texas for 12. The problem with rural America is that there are no high paying jobs and you need transportation to reach the jobs that are available. There is little or no public transportation so that means you must own a car. Well with gas at 2.50 to 3.00 a gallon and mandatory insurance added to the cost of a reliable car, many people in rural areas can't afford to get to higher paying jobs. Wall-mart and fast food establishments have wiped out Main street and small restaurants. In the past they paid nearly nothing until recent pressure have forced them to increase wages. If a small town has industry and one or more of them close or move, the town dies and many of the people either cannot afford to re-locate or do not wish to lose family support or be unable to support their families. Rural communities have families that have lived there for centuries and have extended relatives through marriage throughout the community. If they move to another state they lose all that. So they are caught in a dilemma with no clear answer.
I often like to speak Spanish in public just to see if I can goad an ignoramus into confronting me, and then I pivot to perfect English and put them on blast, since English is indeed my first language. I really think that these "English only" hayseeds are preoccupied with whether I am talking about them. If you want to dip on my business when I am speaking Spanish, then learn it.
It’s not the politicians who ship our jobs overseas, it’s private industry that’s looking for cheap labor in other countries. Low wages, very little government regulation of working conditions and worker’s rights.
The same people who complain about politicians being 'out of touch' or 'DC insiders' are the same people who never read up on the issues, or hold their elected officials accountable and vote for the same people year after year. The electorate is just as guilty as the people they vote into office year after year. EDIT: grammar
They are passive victims who are waiting for someone to save them. It doesn't seem as if they are proactive in their own success. On the other hand, if it is so nice to be there then why all the whining. Is it a good place or not. Do you really need something or do you just want something. They want big important high paying jobs. Great, what skills do you have? What education? If you were educated by the local high school to be a good follower of community protocol you likely don't know how to do much but follow orders.
Chris Johnson excelled points! "Passive victims" - very true. Are we supposed to feel sorry for people who sit around and do nothing to help themselves? But god forbid an illegal immigrant works 2 or 3 low wage jobs trying to improve the lives of their children. We sympathize with the whiny "victim" and vilify the hard worker?
2:30 "You have to blame the people who voted to do that as well." So eight of those voters will must accept responsibility for their own votes as well.
the world voted against coal maybe Americans need to be properly informed, Obama had no choice and neither does Trump despite his rhetoric....we've moved away from coal. Get that! Think greener!
Beckah Mataronas pretty good black clapping emphasis...for a white girl lol. I read it black but I had to remind myself with the profile pic, "oh yea she's white" XD
Vilonious Lee we were taken out of a recession without hardly feeling it like they did in the 30's. Thanks to president obama :) But the market lost 2000 points this month :( thanks to president trump. Confidence in one. Mistrust in another. Or do you not like data?
Vilonious Lee I'm not talking about Obama, Bush, or Clinton. I'm making zero comparisons. All I said is that Trump cut taxes while increasing spending. It doesn't matter how many people have jobs or how many companies enter the country. If you spend more than you make, you will have a deficit. Period. What do you think is going to happen when you increase spending and decrease revenue
Vilonious Lee I understand that, but companies large enough to have any real bearing can already avoid paying the full tax rate and many don't pay the full rate. Trickle down economics doesn't work, we've already tried it. The middle class is bringing home an extra $20-30 a week - a drop in the bucket for most families.
It's not a bad idea to learn a second language, whether that be Spanish or Afrikaans. It's just that Spanish is the second most spoken language in the US. Your child would be more competitive in the work force and would be more intellectually advanced compared to monolingual peers.
@@starababa1985 Maybe. It probably depends on what field you work, or what state you live. If you live in California, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, you may want to learn Spanish to leverage earning potential in Mexico and Latin America. If you live in Washington DC, you may want to pick up Chinese to become a skilled diplomat or do embassy work. Just learn a second language, whichever it is! It's so good for your earnings and your brain's health.
Also the rightful owner of America & Canada is Native Americans. Their are also entered the country, just like the other immigrants throughout history.
Yusuf Celenli the woman named Lisa is from Ohio and doesn't seem to know during the eighteenth, nineteenth, and early twentieth centuries, millions of immigrants migrated from Germany, Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia and ALL spoke non English. Never mind that so many studies show that speaking more than on language is a positive in so many ways.
Maria B. the woman's name is Lisa and she said if you choose to come to America learn to speak American. So shouldn't she do what she expects of others and learn proper English?
No matter your party this country has been sold out. But people must take responsibility instead of pandering to political motives to solve their issues. Can't blame minorities for your failures. Every other people in America is grappling with survival but only these folks point fault blame & hatred to defend their lack.
When the pro Trump folks talked about how rude people are in the city they must have only been to cities in Ohio, because I know I encounter very friendly people in NYC, as well as over in San Francisco, down in Los Angeles. We noticed that when visiting those small Midwest areas that in listening to folks like the pro Trump folks in this piece who want jobs that pay $25+ and hour that they also want cheap goods and services. You cannot have both. The small business owner Steve Stills was correct when he said if you are a white collar worker (college educated white collar job) his area is not the place to live. But he should also know that blue collar incomes under $50k a year will have to be expected in his area. There is a reason California is a high cost of living state. We have high tech and other high paying jobs that require a college education or very specialized training. Same with NYC, Boston, Seattle.
I completely agree with your statement about people from large cities being friendly. I am from NYC and have traveled most of the US and the world. I currently live in Midwest. People always comment in how friendly I am and would never think I am from a large city. The rudest people I encounter are always from smaller towns, they come off bitter and entitled. Although, I'm sure it has more to do with the fact that I am of darker complexion and they cannot easily categorize me.
I have travelled to many big cities and almost all of them were very friendly for the most part. My home city of Buffalo is very friendly for the most part. Despite its serious urban ills, Detroit is also a very friendly city. I have also found Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee, Omaha, Denver, and Houston to be very friendly and very accommodating. The only unfriendly and arrogant city that I experienced was the Texas capital city of Austin where I lived for nine years unfortunately. I left Austin and moved back to Buffalo in the spring of 2001.
In the early 80s, America's inequality, was roughly similar to Europe, with people at the bottom still owning most of the wealth and income. From them on, inequality just gradually rose, the proportions flipped, the top 1% has more than the bottom 50% or so. But in Europe, it remained roughly the same, there was some increase in the wealth of the top 1%, and some decrease on the poorest, but it does not even compare, by far.
These are the real 💩holes in our own home. Keep up with the times folks or get left behind. Snap out of your old ways and adapt to change for the better of our future as Americans.
I died when they said it illegal how they come here let's not get started on how you all got here. And this is land they lived on and traveled to before Europeans existed they have every right to be here.
oh please, every civilization/tribe/kingdom then was fighting and multiplying thru occupation. the weaker tribe you mentioned got absorbed by the stronger tribe and they lost their own tribe name/cultures/customs.
Sincere Moments this was native land Mexicans are native people and were here before white European invaders illegall came here and had their anchor babies
Shameless bigotry and scapegoating, the ignorance on display by a few in this focus group colors the county as ignorant. So, it begs the question, why would a company decide to locate there? Those of you who were dependent on the coal industry must have had a clue that the nation was moving away from coal as we have been for decades. Don't mind your fellow Americans who are dedicated to cleaner air. Finally, the audacity of making your drug addicts our nation's problem is a bit much. They became addicted because they were trying to get high, take care of your own as those in the cities and suburbs have done. Yet you still wonder why companies don't choose to locate to your shallow labor pool? Good Grief!
I believe that most of these addicts, became addicted from prescription drugs for pain prescribed by their doctors and pushed for by profit hungry pharmaceutical corporations seeking the increase those profits. They are victims, but they tend to blame the wrong sources and not the drug companies pushing their products. True some are certainly as you haves described, but then compassion is still needed to help those who make a self-inflicted wound.
I believe it's too easy to call people ignorant and forget where their attitudes are coming from. Maybe if you had a high school education and had lost the highest paying job you could expect to land and were faced with losing your home, not being able to feed your family and/or leaving your home and being forced to move elsewhere just to keep body and soul together...you might feel a little desperate and be casting around for new answers yourself. What do we have to offer to help these people live a satisfying life? We can't just continue to call them ignorant and forget they may not have had the same advantages as others of us. We need to help find solutions. It's too easy to respond negatively and ignore the legitimacy of peoples' concerns.
@@SECook-vw8lg Immigrants come here, settle down, and educate themselves and their offspring. There is nothing holding these people back, but their ignorance and their belief that jobs must come to them.
Coal industries and nuclear industries shutting down isn't a bad thing for the world, the environment. But when you have actual people relying on these jobs, take them away and leave them to rot, you've got a problem. It should be a good thing to look for cleaner, better options for energy. It shouldn't however, mean people have to suffer. That's what happens when everything is run for profit, the individual doesn't matter. Please don't blame voters - voters don't have any real power currently. A system that forces people to desire dangerous jobs like coal mining over clean energy because they might end up in dire poverty is no system for the people. I hate the self inflicted argument. Even IF someone makes a poor choice, it doesn't suddenly invalidate their status as a human being and almost no one gets involved in something like drugs for no reason. Judgement does nothing but make the individual feel satisfied and feel as if they don't have to care. Empathy and understand cost nothing in itself, but will certainly help more people in the long run. Judgement just leaves people out in the cold. Besides, if people can't get well paying jobs, they lost their dignity and self worth which may lead to to substance abuse. Just because YOU, yourself would never get to that level, doesn't mean their reasons don't matter. The whole 'they cost the tax payer ' yeah, well so the rich hiding all their billions - blame them, not some powerless person in he middle of nowhere in Ohio. The rich elite love that you guys are all blaming each other for government help and food stamps. Keep it up, you're doing the work for them! Do these people have any proof of what they are saying? Babies born from Mexican mothers have more rights than American citizens? How??????? It is Illegal, but it's not like they come here to take all of what's yours because they just want to. They'd leave too if they were poor Mexicans. Bigger problems require bigger solution(as in fixing the whole entire system, in all countries). Are these people trying to tell me American born kids are being forced to learn Spanish in Ohio because Sofia Maria Ramirez is the only Mexican girl in their class. Give me a break. This is nothing but them fear mongering themselves.
Rosalina 90 youre speaking the truth. Did you hear the lady saying "theyre bringing their religion here". Umm excuse me did you not know anyone can practice anything in America. Its the freedom of religion.
It is scary to hear the old guy saying that a WW III is inevitable. That might be true but once you enter that mindset, you essentially take all incentive out to avoid potential catastrophic conflict. And no, it would not be necessarily good for the economy. People forget that this is no longer the 30's and 40's, and the methods of war have changed.
Proverb: "The trees kept voting for the Axe, because the handle was made of wood, and they thought he was one of them".
That's Americano for ya.
Damn! That’s a good analogy.
Perfect proverb. You caught the essence of the problem.
woooooaaaaaooooooo i think you are god
I like that.
I believe it does actually state in the US Constitution that you can practice any religion you choose to.
stevo728822 1st amendment
Accept conservative Christians think that gives them the right to extend that to the rights of others in the public sphere.
stevo728822 , yes practice your own religion in your own home, but America was formed (our constitution) on Christian values. Our country works because we all do until others what we'd like others to do to us. Ours is a values system. It's the glue that holds our society together, so that everybody else in the world wants to live here. Ours is an immigrant country but they all integrate and work and give back to America. That's why it works.
Topher S , no, it doesn't mean we can force others to worship as Christian's do. We all have free will. Without it, all our good intentions and worship preferences mean nothing. Right?
Actually it says the state shall adopt no religion....it doesn't say how society of a majority religion will treat you if you worship trees, the sun, or nothing at all.
This type of thinking is why they will continue to struggle and be left behind.
This is why small towns and rural areas will never recover from their past economic decline. They refuse to change and diversify.
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Without Democrats stealing from the rest of the country the inner cities would be closed down.
Major lack of self awareness. They all seem to be on public assistance just like those they hate. Sad
crystal mills dumb ass
Slightly different situation. The "people they hate" (immigrants) have acknowledged the futility of their prospects in other countries and come here seeking to advance themselves in life. These rural communities have relied on low skill manufacturing jobs that used to be good jobs when hair dryers and dish washers were new technology. Now they don't have the ability to see with clarity their prospects for life working low skilled manufacturing is bleak. They do not make the connection that the "people they hate" make, which is that their situation is bad and they need to do something to change it. These people feel entitled to making good money for work that is not valuable anymore. And they're angry at the world because now they have to adapt to the changing times. This is really the most pathetic display of American entitlement.
crystal mills
crystal mills ever have to be there...not fun... I didn't have to....I was there due to sheer awnwryness .... not fun ...clean or sober....
crystal mills, you were not paying attention closely. The Trump voters (like Republicans generally have before Trump) generally had a harsh view of public assistance. The non Trump voters were much harsher on the jobs that paid little and the lack of concern for the poor and working class. I detest Trump and everything he stands for. But this is the kind of attitude that alienates many working class folks from the Democrats.
They have a point when they say that city people have different values than rural people. Different, however, not worse.
How would you know that?
Why would you complain about the imperfections of the social programs you need and then vote for the party that doesn't want to expand those social programs?
Maybe because they know that those programs are a trap as hard to get off as opioids.
That never made sense to me..
That heavy set women in the light blue shirt was on disability and I was wondering considering she looked healthy why she was on disability.. And yet she was bashing those on disability... Its interesting.. I was on disability(SSI) back in the 90's because I was diagnosed with cancer.. I got better and found a job and got off of disability...
@@janetwhite7786 exactly, it would be like dumping gasoline on a fire
They voted for Obama
@@janetwhite7786 so the choice is to stay in the hole they're in now?
I feel nothing! Minorities have had to make do all their lives. These folks need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. That's what we were told.
MS. G yes.. that is exactly what we were told!
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What happen to Trump's infrastructure plan?
Anthony Ahearn
Did you believe he ever had a plan? His little publicity stunt got carried away with his bigoted world view..
MS. G exactly!!! Let their so called light-skinnedness” and their “High IQ’s” get them out of their shithole.
How can you blame Obama for the decline of the coal industry? You can’t stop advancements in science and technology
MarcusTv The GOP blames Obama for bad weather. Of course it's Obamas fault they refuse to learn new skills to better their lives.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MarcusTv, very true, and coal is an archaic, dirty energy source which should be in decline. However, the places that have relied on coal for decades have not been assisted with a viable alternative. The places where coal is in decline (by market forces as well as by government initiatives) should be assisted in transforming their economies. This has not occurred.
brian, agree
It's really doesn't make sense when you look at the timeline. Most of the decline in coal jobs happened from 19800's to the early 2000's. The Obama administration didn't see anywhere near as sharp of a decline as the Regan and first Bush administrations.
Living in West Virginia I've noticed that the smart people leave. They know there is no future in Coal.
mrzeegrr Yes, that’s my whole point about these rural areas. The smart ones leave. That is why the IQ keeps dropping there.
@@aslater5 iq isn't genetic
The irony is that these people who are pro coal end up spending more on medical bills because of black lungs than if they were to get another less paying job at Walmart
That is the reason you are still there?
@@dogguy8603 yes it is.
These people have been in this country for generations,I wonder if any of of them have a high school diploma.
u sound dumb like high school diploma gets u anything like come on they give high school diploma to retards nothing towards retards but it is facts
yes but alot of times america cares more about other countries and immigrants then a us citizen born
Defensor It was these type of people that built the USA out of the wilderness, out forests. I think it’s sad what has happened to them.
KeineAhnung U.S. statistics show that 37 million americans can't read , write or do basic math can you see why they're unemployed?
Ooo look at you.if you are so great why didn't you stay in your own country
Who is to blame? How about the corporations that chose to move their factories abroad? How about all the folks who shopped in Walmart, etc., all that time before industry moved out - they bought Chinese goods and then complained when their jobs were moved abroad. As for coal, it's a dead end. I've known too many people who ended up with black lung when there was underground mining. You're living in the past, if you think that's where the world is going.
Ctwo First make coal great again
Mygunsgoboom Cuz ppl think they deserve a living wage but have no education in a economy that demands skilled workers xd
You didn't mention the voters who put in these well dressed morons.
No one is going to make coal great again, no one wants it. No mines will stay open none wants to buy it. Obama didn't create the war on coal, it's no longer needed or wanted. Send your young out to get an education in an industry that will be sustainable. Learn skills yourself that make you employable.
Mygunsgoboom how about the fact that no one wants coal any more. There simply isn't a global market for it. Obama knew this hence made it difficult to get a permit. The fact that you want to blame him is immaterial, under Trump, all hail your saviour. Dig all the coal you want, except no one want to buy it. There is no market, not even within the US for it. Many countries now run entirely on renewable sources and no country now wants to trade with Trump his word means nothing, any trading partner is now looking elsewhere to buy and sell goods so even if there was a market no country would trust Trump to keep his word to provide a consistent affordable product. The world can do without the US, the world has already in this year moved on a lot without the US every year the US will fall further and further behind and have less and less trading partners. Less and less relevant technology, and Silicon Valley with its entreneurs will go else where.
"Why should we help addicts?" "Why should we help the environment?" "Why should we help the jobless?" "Why should we care about urban problems?" and then "Why is nobody helping us with our problems?". I get that desperation causes this mindset, but do these people listen to themselves?
It's disappointing how most of these people don't understand the impact globalization has had on their own communities, or the opportunity that green manufacturing might provide. Not one of them said anything like, "We need to be re-trained, we need another path forward as the economy and country adapts to the effects of globalization and renewable energy."
surferdjnj yea like all the “Green jobs” Obama was talking about when he was in office ? My neighbors dog created more shovel ready jobs than he did.
And that sir seems to be the issue. Don’t sit on your ass complaining, get up and upskill or retrain! More importantly America is stuffed because of this spiteful attitude about taxes. I think people need to remember that taxes are also paid, for the privilege of living in a secure and stable country. Shut the hell up wanting to dictate in that spiteful manner who gets what from that tax. People need financial support. Broaden welfare and ensure money is being spread around creating a stimulus to small business, which in turn creates jobs. People on the whole don’t complain about corporate welfare enough and the trillions thrown at them to waste! It certainly doesn’t filter down. Use welfare as a stimulus, which also decreases crime and violence and consequently the strain and cost on prison system. Americans have been had for far too long and need to bloody start another revolution or something!
surferdjnj They live in the past. They are angry. They can't imagine another way of living. I.e. education, training programs etc. I lived in Ashtabula, I know their attitude. Stuck in the 70's much?
Being that i have to spend 50k in education to end up getting a 20k a year job. Ya no. Why i quite, especially as the crap i was being "taught" i already learned first hand actually teaching the teachers. Thats pathetic. Then i get bashed and prevented a job as i dont have a degree yet know more than and piece of paper will tell you. Now, tell me the logic of "training" when i can school you in performance and knowledge? Just because a piece of paper you make more than me by a couple thousand. yet ou hold ya more bills than i do. Those "green jobs" wont do shit. They are not logical in a rural community. They will soend more time and money in transportation costs, either it be electical or vehicle wise, that it logically/cost effectivly doesnt make sense. Rural communities are being left as jobs move to a city. They are with no opprituniities or can they afford to move. Besides their ways are forbidden in a city where your taxed to death, and told where to fart even graded on it smelling. Thats sad, and i refuse to live in those situtations.
Snipe Stud00 what? Well if you think you are going to get a 20k job with an education you are picking basket weaving. I got laid off from my 15 yr job, moved (not far), got my education, got a great job and was able to retire at 55. It's not that hard.
So they are just sitting around waiting for corporations to come to their towns and give them a job!
Toms Friend Kake I completely understand that however, it’s still a dependence on someone else. These companies and factories are owned by people who are in business. Unfortunately these business owners don’t care about your livelihood. They just want to function in the best way to make the most amount of money. I for one, will NEVER allow my entire livelihood to be dependent on someone else to give me a job. That is not what the American dream is about. Get out there! Get college degrees, and learn a new skill! Don’t wait for another big employer to come into your town! This is not something that the government can teach people or give them!
Yes, I understand that it’s difficult. But a corporation is not required to give you a job.
Joe T exactly.
You are 100% correct.
The government also ether payed or regulated company to move out. It more about UN agenda to make it unsustainable to live in rural parts of the country.They want to make a lot of America no go zones. They want people to live in smart cities and reduce the population and control it. California if going though that right now. The old being destroyed with regulations and sustainable housing being built. When they cut off water to farmers do you think they where able to pay debt on there farms. Take a look what the Obama and Clinton's done to farmers that had uranium they sold to russia. They sent in the BLM with regulations and tried burning them off the farm. The Bundys in Nevada the judge dismissed case and let them out of prison. The government doesn't have a right to steal, murder and use economic terrorism on it's people.
Joe T What else are they suppose to do?
I wonder why that woman wouldn't want her child to be fluent in multiple languages. It's not like children that know multiple languages are statistically at an advantage than children that don't.
My mother tells my brothers and me to always speak Spanish in front of our kids. A person who speaks 2 languages is worth 2 in the job market.They will learn English at school.
Bro, I'm jealous that I can't speak multiple languages. I'm trying to learn Portuguese now.
I wouldn't like that, I learned English on my own and only cause I wanted to an needed to.
If you don then don't, focus on other things like engineering architecture or somthing that requires a lot from you that way you can succeed as well.
I would but not forced to by the government
The biggest detriment to middle america are middle americans themselves.
Hard to forget about people you never thought about in the first place.
lol
Wait. Don't you mean it's EASY to forget about ppl you never thought of in the first place?
I feel bad for kids that belong to parents that don't want them to learn beyond the basic skills required because it makes them "uncomfortable." You're setting up these kids to fall behind
They want to keep them ignorant.
They should be teaching them different languages so they can own businesses. Learn accounting and computer skills. Invest in permaculture practices. Dang.
Those kids will be the welfare recipients of the future.
The good paying factory(union) jobs are never coming back. Those young enough to be retrained, learn new skills and move to the coast. The others good luck, you’re going to need it. For what it’s worth, stop voting against your own self interest.
I agree about voting against their own interests but telling entire communities to just teach themselves new skills, get up, and move, is insane. You sound like a conservative.
10 months later you couldn't be more wrong. Lol
Travis Devos : How about an example, of how he is wrong? Surely someone who is as bright as you must consider yourself...could do that much.
@@darylp8564 here you go there fat boy straight from the fake news itself so you can't deny it 450,000 manufacturing jobs since he took office put that in your crack pipe and smoke it you f****** loser!
@@GreaterAntilles-wn2ts more minimum wage jobs, incredible!!
donald trump speaks "american".. the rest of us speak english..
why do you not know its stupid to say " i speak american"..?
did you not know that the English people speak one dialect while the USA speaks another dialect!!! It is not the same!!!! I guess that is why we speak american?! England believes that we speak the wrong English!
MrFrankqu58 And you do realize that in America there are different variations of “American” English. Stop being a moron....it’s English plain and simple. American is not a language and to use it in that way just shows how utterly stupid you are.
It goes to show that Kay does not know how to read! Look at my comment carefully, I said English people from England said we speak the wrong English, what is it that you do not understand. You call me a moron, now I say, look in the mirror, KAY, and call yourself a moron!!
MrFrankqu58 Ugghhhh...people like you are the reason why the US educational system is a joke. Go ask an english 8th grade teacher what it means to speak American and I’m sure he’ll/she’ll gladly enlighten your poorly educated self.
I bet you think we use American math here and they use English math there too.
“If you come to America, learn to speak American.”
WOW. She really just said that. 🤦♂️
Randy H Speak American or English, güey? Tell me something, Randy, if if if you go to other countries do you learn to speak their language before going there? It is people like you that has this country in this state of affairs. Tarado.
Cristina Briones Fourzan
I don’t think you understood the context. I was criticizing the woman in the video who said that statement. Hence the quotations.
Best comment, easiest to understand. If you came to America from Botswana or Argentina or Austria, why would you expect Americans to speak their languages?
Ugh I cringe when I hear speak "American." I don't think I ever heard someone say it seriously like that though.
alfr1 There is no language named "American", in the United States English is spoken, just like in Botswana. And Argentina is also in America.
Learning another language is an advantage. WOW.
These people pointing fingers at everything besides themselves.
Cool, but people who come here should be required to learn English
Learning another language is going to be a requirement thanks to people like you. Quebec force the entire nation of Canada to adopt french as their second language because they refuse to adopt to Canadian culture at large. Get ready for that here only with a multitude of languages.
@@angelcitystudio lol wh6 are you so obsessed with an accent lol, also many of them do read and write at a much higher level than thoes in liberal areas, especially california which has the worst literary rates in the country
@@josh18230 In what world you live, bilingualism in Canada is only true in Quebec where more than half of the population is bilingual while in the rest of Canada not even 8 % of the people are bilingual. Stop being mad you angryphone.
@@josh18230 and also what does "they refuse to adopt the canadian culture at large" means ? Isn't quebec and french part of the canadian identity and thefore culture ? Your arguments are stupid considering that the two languages are in the constitutions and that french canadian and english canadian are considered founding people of canada.
wow, they r really out of touch with reality , fear is powerful
Alexander Jason funny I feel the same around Hilary supporters
Alexander Jason If you ever happen to come across Mark Dice here on UA-cam, check him out. Then you'll clearly see just how fucking retarded the mentally enslaved progressive is.
No seriously, it's embarrassing seeing how stupid people in Southern California are. I'm not saying all of them of course, but my god it's bad. I didn't vote in 2016, IMO, they all sucked. But to say Trump voters shouldn't be allowed to vote without an IQ test, though you believe people who supported the most corrupt politician within the last century shouldn't have to take a test. Hell, they shouldn't have to show ID either right. Lol I mean that's saying something, I thought pappy Bush was bad but fucking Hillary is like feminazi Ashly Judd would say, "a nasty woman"
Oh and let's not forget about that old shriveled up nut sac of a commie Bernie. The 21st century Bolshevik fighting for the people, while living out of 3 multimillion dollar mansions. Lol Yeah only someone with a giant lump of shit stuck between their ears would support that old fart.
Anyway, there are countless videos out there, other than Dice's that show the amount of stupidity coming from the left. Ya know, the chanting SJW's, aka the useful idiot on the college campus. The BLM movement or the Antifa asswipes in the streets burning garbage cans. There's literally hours of great humor watching these indoctrinated, zombie like, retarded creatures showing the whole world how fucking stupid they are.
Paul Judkins .It is possible, Everybody has their own perspective, I Think these people are very poor and not well educated. But ask yourself this, y would a millionaire want to help, the people that he takes advantage of?
They are advocating industrial capitalism as opposed to financial capitalism as being in their best economic interest....you contemptuous 'genius' progressive
stop using big words
They expect high paying jobs with high school education. Dream on.
Those used to exist, and could again, if we just demand it like our grandparents did. There's literally no reason we cannot have it, except that we've come to accept that we can't.
i just finished third grade. can i be manager now?
PS Wright You either don’t know anything about economics or you are willing to exponentially increase the costs of your consumer goods. Do you know how automation works? Demand all you want, uneducated rural people won’t change the laws of economics or capitalism. If you want a high paying job get an education, position yourself in a growing field and move far away from those rotting ghost towns.
I am glad I have an electrical engineering degree and an MBA. Many of these people do not understand that those jobs were going away 10 years ago! It was just planning and waiting for the advancement of technology. I went to a program where we had to design solar-powered model cars and race them against other participants in the program. I was 10 or 11. I am 36 now. These people complain about immigrants, blacks, browns, jews, and so on and do not want to put in work. This still is a great and always will be a good country, but you look at these people and just shake your head.
312vandal comparing tv college degrees to real degrees? a master's degree from Trump
university or Carrington college doesn't compare
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This type of thinking blames Obama for the decline in saddle manufacturing.
No one is forcing them to live there. They all seem to have two hands and two feet. They can move close by to Pittsburgh or Columbus.
That's what I say. I moved to NYC from my little town. No biggie. Got a job, got an apt and a couple of roommates and had a good life.
Toms Friend Kake So instead they blame some politicians, immigrants and everyone else. Meanwhile, they shop at Walmart, buy things made in China and are shocked when jobs go overseas..No one said it is easy.
rural town leaders don't want high paying employers in their town because they are the business owners and don't want to have to pay their employees higher wages.
So stop catering to blue collar, minimum wage jobs.
federalreserve Brown
The illegal didn't have a goddamn thing to do with keeping your wages down . If the bosses wouldn't hire them they wouldn't work for those low wages .
John: think about it. If a "high-paying" employer ( IT, finance, etc.) moved to small town America they're likely not competing with the local mom & pop business for the same employees and the well-compensated jobs they bring mean that established local businesses have more customers with more money to spend. A local business owner would give anything for that to happen. Struggling small towns are constantly trying to woo companies offering great jobs.
federalreserve Brown
LOL! BS! Unless you're doing farming jobs.Outsourcing ended most of that. Manufacturing went to China. Service jobs went to India.Silicon valley should be renamed H1b visa valley. If US wasn't an oligarchy. You could go after the corps.
That's not true and you know it. If anything, I could claim that it's these same people who chose "Right To Work(for less)" administrators and governments that drew factories to their states for cheaper wages. Just that now, as capitalists are wont to do, they found even cheaper wages overseas. Now it sucks to be you.
keep voting and fighting for billionaires and hoping they will save you
Everyone votes for rich assholes, not just the shrinking middle class.
The choice is between one billionair or another billionair. What do you expect them to vote for?
@@GoodCharlotteMonster The guillotine...
How stumbling President Joe working out?
“When you come to America, learn American” this is how you know these people have little to no sense.
@JB and Abbey You are so RIGHT, and I LOATHE Trump, but these identity politics, blind, IN-DENIAL idealists, are just as ignorant, dangerous & frustrating, LOL..
Little to no contact with immigrants.
Whats the big deal ofdemanding first generation immigrant to speak English ？the second generations born here who does not speak English？ what’s the rush？
I’m going to assume she knows that we speak English here.
@@歌歌-t2h Speak American.
There's a profound lack of accountability in some of these people. They are definitely preyed on by politicians. They have definitely been taken advantage of by corporations. But they also have to take some responsibility for the trajectory of their own lives.
These people are just afraid of change and it makes them feel better to place blame.
That is what I was thinking.. Definitely not motivated.. Everything is doom and gloom..
@@whyputaname to be fair, Ashtabula County is doom and gloom.
@@LDrumsOhio It is easier to place blame than to change your environment.. Change is hard..
Ashtabula county has voted for a democrat in every election since 1988, until 2016. It doesn’t matter who is in power, the area will continue to rot away regardless
I wonder if the Native Americans told whites to speak the Indigenous language?
Well what language since it was more tribes and not to forget they were nomads so they didn't have any country
@@tincaktas2745 Any of the many languages of native people. There were many. You get the point of the comment.
@@vellabella1 ok but the point is that this is USA and you should speak English/American. Problem with native Americans is that they were nomads so they didn't have any country in which English settlers could join to. Yes there were many is true and problem is again they didn't have any country or a state. Even if Steelers learned one tribes language there are still a whole lot of them they need to learn.
@@tincaktas2745 Nevertheless, Europeans didn't adapt to any of cultures of the people living on this continent. Many Native-Americans were not nomads like the Iroquois Confederacy whose system of government helped form ideas for American democracy and the Constitution.
Saying Native Americans had no country is denial or defense mechanism against guilt for stealing their land and repeatedly breaking treaties which continues today.
If you want to do the right thing now, at least open a history book and learn the truth.
@@tincaktas2745 You're ignorant !
Learn the true history & facts of Native peoples
on Turtle Island.
The politicians forgot the people a long time ago.
Trump didn't
Because they became fat lazy and stupid
There are billions of people desperate for any employment in the developing world willing to build dishwashers and hair dryers for much much much less than any American could accept for equal labor. This means we can buy cheap hair dryers from them, and focus our productive efforts into something more valuable. Trying to compete with them in low skilled manufacturing areas is not just moronic, it is completely impossible. Those jobs are not coming back to America, ever. If you want to work a low skill factory job move to China. Americans need more pride in their status as technological leaders of the world. Americans need to do the work that the rest of the world has not figured out how to do yet.
True. They work for corporate America now.
Well said. They're just wasting time on figures and getting votes and enating bad laws and mandating for everyone to follow them.
In my opinion, rural people have no concept of what super-rich means? To most the local owner of a business, that has a big house, is rich. Those people are lower middle class in a big metropolitan area. You cannot conceive of people that spend in one day, what you make in a year. So, you want to blame the government, when it is the super-rich that has done a coup d'etat on the politicians. Since they pay for the politician's election bills, they now call in the favors. Those investment people get tax rates of 15% their income to sit on their bum. You go out and work day after day pay 30% in taxes tell me how that is fair. They sold you down the road, it was not the government that twisted the arms of these people to move the factories and your jobs overseas. Trump will not help you, he just mortgaged your children's future giving the wealth of the nation to his corrupt croony business elites.
Yes, and with all of their tax breaks, they still send money abroad to tax shelters so they can scam us even more.
Really great that Ms. McCroskey points out that not all people who seek rehab are the stereotypical "junkies with self-inflicted issues." She dispels that stereotype with her honesty. Most people would be surprised by the wide range of folk who need help.
So what if they are stereotypical junkies...we're supposed to have frontline first responders make judgement calls on who gets to live and die when called about potential overdoses?
Not to mention the fact that sending people to rehab is much cheaper than sending them to jail and their children to foster care; even when its just temporarily successful, muchless when it's permanent. And that's just the direct cost alone that are more costly. Then when you factor in all of the policing and effects of crime ridden neighborhoods due to drug use. Prevention and treatment is far cheaper than just criminalization, and F it, let'em die.
Beyond the inhumanity of that retired machinist's position is the fiscal stupidity of the fact that policies drawn from his hatefulness cost tax payers more money, not less. But this kind of hate trumps logic and finances.
On the other hand, she plays into the stereotype that there are "good" junkies, and "bad" ones, ones that "deserve" treatment and understanding, and ones that don't. After 7 years treating people with addictions, I can tell you, that's mostly bullshit. The doctor's scrip did NOT get her addicted. She had an addictive behavior pattern, exacerbating her genetic predisposition, a ready supply, and an excuse... just like every other addict. Her window dressing is just prettier, is all.
Good point about her addiction only being better window dressing. These people really don't take responsibility for anything. Indeed the doctor ddn't make her an addict. I've had percocet and oxycodone prescriptions before that I didn't even finish, and in one case never even fulfilled the original prescription.
Someone should go up to her and speak in a Native American language. That is how one speaks "American".
Magnanimous Knight ... k your point?
Natives lost the war..deal with it.
Natives did lose the ears but US could have honored treaties so...
Native American would be English since this wasn't America till the whites settlers came here
Senaleb youre a fucking idiot. Are you referring to the seven years' war? There really wasnt a "war", white people just came in stole land, killed, raped, and pillaged but ok.
Has Trump moved his businesses back to the United States yet?!?!
NO
YES! What the hell r u talking about?
@Mimi 😂😂😂
@@janetwhite7786 REally? Which ones?
No, simply wearing a Make America Great Again hat, made in CHINA?! Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You have to understand that 7 states of this country spoked Spanish before it was taking from Mexico. Those 7 states are some of the biggest states of the USA. So yeah a lot of people speaks Spanish here... and they will always ...
And one major territory is still Spanish speaking today.
and what is your point? the demographics and language of those states radically change post war anyway.
Taken? We have back half of the land we won in the war. Plus, we paid your president for the states we kept, in gold. So maybe Mexico needs to go back to that president to see what happened to all that gold we paid him. Then maybe that old lie about the US taking mexico's land can be put to rest. Cus we're tired of hearing it.
@@carnissan6728 yep. Their country is 3rd world garbage and they need a villian as an excuse. I'd tell them to pick up a rifle and make the changes...as we did long ago.
ENGLISH is THE international language of business, science, medicine, ETC, & that's a FACT. Because of this reality, the vast majority, including native English speakers, will NOT, significantly advance socioeconomically unless they learn to speak, read & write English property & grammatically, WELL. It's GOLD, baby., & a privilege to speak English, TRULY...
I wonder if any one of these people ever thought about going to a technical college, or any institute of higher education, to learn about how to use the modern technology being used in any of the coal or automotive or steel industries today? It seems to me they would look to educating themselves and their children in order to keep up with these changes.
They think being white and American automatically entitles them to have better jobs.
well if you can afford to go...or are intelligent enough
@@masterpalladin bruh tech school an community college basically free Pell grant an financial aid basically pays for it all online an everything I got a associate degree for free basically
The government should’ve helped made sure that those who wanted to couldve.
@@l.a6273 And you're still nothing.
I don't understand the woman who disagrees with having her child learn a second language in kindergarten. Aren't foreign languages more likely to 'stick' and easier to learn when they are learned at young ages? Isn't that better for her child?
They don't want to learn anything new. They want to go back to the 1950s. Pretty clear by the politicians they voted into place.
Not only that, but kids who learn two or more languages at a young age have better brain function and it may help them learn things faster as they age.
Tax paying institutions should not teach languages from other countries, America is built on the English language, our constitution is only written in one language, it is idiotic to pay taxes to teach citizens to learn any other language.
@@psyche100 zero evidence at all that that is true. There are plenty of nations with bilingual or trilingual people that have a far lower IQ rate than Americans.
@@josh18230 I am not convinced that teaching multiple languages is 'idiotic' simply because our founding documents are written in a certain language. Doesn't learning multiple languages open up more opportunities for Americans and make communication with people from other cultures easier? While it is certainly useful and convenient for a society to have a language in common, I don't understand the leap from that idea to the idea that it is somehow detrimental to a society for it to provide school children with the opportunity to learn additional languages at the time in life when they are most apt to retain the information. People from all over the world learn English so that they can do business with English speaking countries. Isn't it depriving our own citizens if we don't set them up to have the same ability to seize opportunities elsewhere?
No-one mentioned being retrained with a skill. It's quite interesting that they talk about personal responsibility but will not move so that they can have a better life. Further, their values are no different than anyone else. Wow....ignorance really do ruin lives.
The irony is that they are in this shit situation because the state has abandoned them and no longer invests in their area, the corporatists got rid of the unions and they have been royally shafted. Yet they still want the state out of their lives and still vote for the politicians bought by the corporatists who drove them to their misery. Yet instead of recognizing that they fall in line for whomever gives them empty promises and caters to their insecurities to make them feel good and not forgotten.
@ karlVyt. Back in the day, when dishwashers and hair dryers were new technology, making them came with good pay. Why? When "stuff" like this was invented in America, the rest of the world had to buy it from us. Europe was really the only developed society capable of copying our products and competition was much much lower. We exported these products around the world, "made in the USA". Now, there are billions of people in the developing world willing to work for much less than any American would accept. Today, it is economically impossible to employ an American to make dishwashers, at least for decent pay. It is not a matter of being forgotten. In today's world, this work is not valuable, because there are billions and billions who will work harder for almost nothing. Billions will do your job for less, which makes your labor less valuable period. End of story, its just basic economics. It has nothing to do with the state or the government or the politicians. These are scapegoats. It has everything to do with billions of people producing abundance very very cheaply as they lift themselves out of poverty and agrarian (farming) lifestyles. Any politician who says they can change this situation is lying for votes, playing on the hopes and fears of these bitter people. Successful Americans today are working in start-up companies producing new innovations that the world has never seen. These are jobs that can not be sent over seas. To make innovate on smart phone design today is the equivalent of producing dishwasher back in the day. These are the true American innovators. We need more people with skills that allow them to do work that the billions in the developing world can not do. This is American exceptionalism, it is the American spirit and always has been. And because America only has 5% of the worlds population, we it should be a national imperative to be the most advanced 5% in the world. This is the only way to stay ahead in today's global world, to get ahead and keep moving forward.
Only of these people can figure out what skill they can learn that would let them stay in their rural setting could they ever retrain and stay where they are.
Kwame Smith , does, not do. But you're right.
Make America great again. How is that tax cut
We need to make America Smart Again.
"Learn to speak American"
Wonderful, isn't it. We speak American, and did not know it.
do you mean speak native Indian ? america has England to thank for it's language , ps the English language ,. what I see often is Americans cant even pronounce the names of the countries they invade , lazy slang , but I do see it here also migrants come and try to change our ways to that of the country they left , and talk mainly in there own tongue , if we could only turn back time , where would you go back to ,
@@nukerzerothefirst3417 News flash, so called Native Americans immigrated here too so there's that troubling fact... smh. Do a bit of actual research before opening your mouth.
@@toysoldier46552 and they were there long before you're lot arrived would that be correct ,
@@nukerzerothefirst3417 Still waiting for a point, they still aren't Native to the Americas anymore than we are.
looks like they eat pretty good.
danceswithcritters - oh they eat! But they are almost all obese, so what are they actually eating? And none can make critical judgements, nor think and evaluate in anything other than a most basic and simplistic manner. To whose benefit is that the working people of America are kept and maintained in this state? I would suggest Trump and his rich cronies.
danceswithcritters they grow their on food. Lol
They should stop eating and do their darndest not to reproduce.
Where's dem bootstraps now?
Never existed.
They're not black so they forgot what bootstraps are.
Sounds like liars to me.... I need more proof of their actual qualifications and how they achieved that position they once obtained ..... since they're in everybody else's business ...let's put them on trail....
Better take some hustle lessons from the Mexicans.
Thank u, I keep saying the same thing.
You are being forgotten, your industrial purpose has been fulfilled and condemned to history.
Precisely. If you're going to live on the frontier, you better have frontier skills. These people want to be part of the modern economy but are unwilling to pay the price to leave or create exports. Some of them can't leave because of the 'equity' in their home. Millennials will not be buying these homes from them. They are the last buyers and don't even know it. Bankruptcy won't save them. Only welfare and ss checks will prolong the inevitable till they die alone penniless from something entirely treatable.
I lived in a rural town for a few years but once I realized there was no opportunity I moved back to the city and have never regretted that decision. From what I experienced most people just had a poverty mindset and a high school education which in turn just complained about where they lived and the wages they made. You can't change that sheltered mindset they were born and raised with but sometimes there are exceptions to that rule. If you want change make it yourself no matter how long it takes or how old you are? Excuses and blaming others are just slowing you down while the world around you succeeds.
"Learn to speak American" that tells me all I need to know of this group
Can you say the same of minority communities who have their own hatchet-job way of speaking english? It's all the same
We have plenty of people who have moved to the UK and still refuse to learn the language even after 50 years.
Ya but thank god they know how to code
@R3y 1245 your ignorance is blistering.
You need unions! Also innovation to overcome the industry’s which are due to die. Life never stays the same.
Let's start a union, calling every human
It's one for all and all for one
Let's live in unison, calling every citizen
It's one for all and all for one
Something to be said for education, reflection and awareness. People who refuse to face reality always end up being conned by everyone.
The reason these people fear they're being forgotten is because they are being forgotten. Rural life has no appeal to most people, with more and more college educated kids and less need for manufacturing they are going to want to live near a metropolitan area. And who wouldn't? What do rural areas offer to people?
Basic supply and demand.
@deharleyva There's no future in the past.
Rural areas offer clean air, clear skies to see the stars, a more integrated community usually, a slower pace of life so one can enjoy the moment, privacy, and plenty of space. A lack of understanding or respect for rural life doesn't depreciate the true value to people who do understand it and respect it.
@@alysa7364 I am from a farm family so I know what clean air and star studded nights are like. Privacy and plenty of space are certainly two the few benefits of rural living. I left the rural area I grew up in because to me the star studded beautiful nights are nice to visit but I don't want to live there. It wasn't slower paced at all. Because we were so far away from civilization we had to rush to get on the road to commute or shop for the basics. It wasn't more of an integrated community either. Integrated communities were something that happened when the baby boomers were growing up. Today young people often have bizarre working hours so they struggle to find common times to be social. (Our apartment currently has 5 residents and all of us work bizarre hours. How can you socialize with your neighbors after work when you get home at 1am?) Forget about basic web access too. The closest ISP didn't want to come out that far because of low population which means that barring government investment the ISP won't even recoup their infrastructure investment. I don't want to live in an asphalt jungle but close enough to civilization that commute times are sane and I don't need to spend hours in the car driving to get my basic necessities/errands done.
@@jessicaharris1608 Thank you for your reply, Jessica. Our experiences have been slightly different in regards to rural areas but you made a lot of good points regarding things like odd work hours contributing to less socialization, poorer infrastructure, and long commutes. Some rural areas are better than others at these considerations, but rural areas are still less accommodating in general than more populated areas. It all depends on your values and what you're willing to sacrifice.
@@alysa7364 and less crime.
"it isn't like it used to be" because the manufacturing jobs that substantiated families in middle America moved to foreign countries. Under capitalism, the corporation is interested in the profit instead of the worker. If these people realized that capitalism is what is making their job prospects so bleak possibly there could be a better future. If workers control the means of production then there will be no jobs moving overseas since workers will control their own companies and will not make decisions averse to their interests. Instead these people support the party that wants to allow these corporations an even more free market that will do nothing for them as workers, this makes NO sense.
Capitalism is the best form of economic government. Anything thing else is a perfect reality dreamworld like communism/socialism. Others are just awful exe. Fascism
You can't have it both ways...as consumers, we want the lowest priced 'everything'! Companies are in business to make a profit, not to create jobs. The jobs are a by-product of the effort to meet the consumer's needs. Companies will always find the lowest priced production source - it's key to their survival. With technology, product design and production can be done overseas, wages are lower. You still want the lowest priced shirt? Washing machine? What about a car? It will not stop...blue collar has gone...white collar is the next wave to go. Think about it...I'm communicating with you and potentially thousands of others and we'll never meet. That's through technology our grandparents couldn't dream about.
its cronyism/corporatism where the wealthy are left unchecked to hord all the money
@@mebeingU2 well then tax the rich at 90% just like Eisenhower did
@@mebeingU2 yes it sucks...but then when unemployments at 30-40% the militias are gonna have there heyday....revolution
The conversation sounds like a lot of regret, in my opinion the lost part of the conversation is educational levels of rural America. The question we should be asking is do Americans have adequete educatiion in order to understand social and political dynamics.
There is a problem. It is they, as conservatives, who will resist improved education; because the improved education leads many people to conclude that conservative ideas are failing modern America.
They do. Thing is...Humans hate learning...apart from the miracles in East Asia( do they really question policy that much?) Where else are people educated enough? I think even in western Europe it is just a question of a leadership that is not hell bent on thieving...I doubt whether that 'imagined' educated threshold is achievable
( having everyone educated at the same level is Communistic utopia)...Humans look for a way to stop the pain of learning and therefore after attaining a certain level (yet learning is life-long)...they stagnate and just become jaded and heavily indulgent in blame-shifting/buck passing! Unlike comps, humans are expected to keep updating until the brain atrophies; that is life-long learning; it makes you accept that you don't know it all...the Ego hates that disposition!
They speak American with a funny accent.
How's it funny?
@@SuperDeuser cause it is. He can laugh if he wants
@@helpmegetto10kwithnovideos81 it literally sounds like a normal American accent but ok
@@SuperDeuser ok cool lol
They speak American my urban self speak English
“Learn to speak American” lady should learn English herself.
I'm sure the English understand the dialect differences between English English and american english.
Yep that one struck me too.
That is not nice nor is it helpful. I really appreciate the commentary, because it opens the door for conversation. I'll be glad when we come out the immature back and forth instead of listening, respecting and responding in kind.
Well it is American English.
Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps! It's all about personal responsibility!
M J that's what they always tell people on welfare. Karma's a bitch isn't it?
How about those who can't, through no fault of their own?
tallthinkev there is a reason why we have ghost towns out west. If they can't find good jobs they should move, get an education and get a decent job, which is exactly what i did. It is not the governments job to get you a good job for unskilled workers who want to live where companies do not want to locate there. Quit expecting the gov to take care of you. And i am a flaming liberal. Disability is being abused and what makes it funny is everyone i know on disability is a republican and none are disabled. Whinners!
Some of the stuff you say is all well and good, yet I am asking about those who can't, those with a disability say?
Toms Friend Kake i did not say get a degree, i said get a skill. I have interviewed MBAs that could not write a complete sentence and people with no degree that are scary smart. A skill is marketable. I would also say if a person today has an education/skill and are still working crap jobs, it is their fault. There are over 5 million job openings but people don't have the skills.
"I love the poorly educated!!!"
lol why?
orange man bad!
Sorry, because I'm undoubtedly nitpicking, but we speak English here in the USA, not American (7:30), just as there's no such language as Canadian, Kiwi (New Zealand), British, Caribbean, nor Australian. They're all the same language with a different accent, and terminology.
An interesting side note: Although, around the turn of the century, that is at the beginning of the 20th century, there had been a significant diversion between English in America and England; that some linguists started talking about an American language. And essentially that is how new languages are born: they normally evolve from other existing languages. But modern communication technology brought the two variants of English again closer together, and discussion of the "American Language," disappeared.
@@neveklund3267 Wrong, English is our root language. As the melting pot of people from the world we have words from all the world. What we speak is very different from what was called the Kings English. Yes we speak American.
What kills me the most is how people can't afford to live but they have kids like it's okay.
That's always confused the bejesers out of me: you barely take care of themselves, but will be selfish and stupid enough to think that somehow the world owes them something because they are stupid, useless & braindead: SORRY, BUT NO DAMNED WAY IN HELL!!!! Get a grip on reality & grow a brain
they's just doin as theys pappy raped em too
Praying 🙏🏼 for you all….
struggle is part of life....look at how a baby struggles to live and learn to talk...shirking that because of poverty is self-defeating. Ever since man crawled out of slime...it's been a struggle...from struggle comes solutions...we all can't be Bill Gates..did you know that Diarhea is hereditary? it runs in your Jeans!
This Is So Dumb! These people really think a Trump presidency will solve their issues?
Whats dumb is did you know Obama with a executive order tried to regulate and steal rural private land. The rural communities are under attack and have been for years with UN agenda 21 and now it's changed to 2030. We fault it here in Arkansas where he was trying to take control 71 million acres of private land. We know how this crap works they go into a area remove jobs and try regulate you into bankruptcy and then take your land. I'm not looking for Trump to save me and looking to get the boot of the government off my neck.
Agenda 21 is on my tail today and now
Keith Raines It's OK now they know what native Americans felt!
Weatha Morris what will you do for there issues ????🤔
That's the sad part, their hatred and bigotry is being exploited by the very President that doesn't care for them because they are poor. It's even sadder that they believe learning another language is bad thing, as if it makes them less superior than they think they are already.
This is why that one guy on AskReddit who answered the question "How united is America?" said "Smart people in Metropolitan Areas vs Dumb people in Rueal Areas"
You can't blame Obama for your situation... Our former President did not send your job overseas. Think again.
Cranston Lumpkin , Yeah he did. Racist Obama killed small towns intentionally. Obama's legacy will be one of daily violence.
Reagan started it.
Phillip Long, really, Racists Obama? "says who" Breitbart!!
One The Crow ! , Democrats always expose themselves as the racists they truly are. When they say things like "we need illegal immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do ", "black people are incapable of obtaining an ID to vote ", or "white people have a special privledge that no other race will ever obtain". People have caught on to the racist Democrats division games. Exactly why the violent democrats are losing supporters.
Phillip Long, Really, "Democrats expose themselves as the racist " did Democrats converge in Charlottesville, flying confederate and nazi flags yelling "JEWS WIL NOT REPLACE US" You no nothing of the southern political realignment after LBJ passed the 1964 CRA do you? aaaahh!! WTH. Its like talking to a rock.
"If you come to America, learn to speak American." Uhhhh, okay.
You'd rather they call "soccer" by the name "football"?
I thought it was odd that they attributed so many problems to (illegal) immigrants when they're only 1% of the county's population. It's like, you don't think they share your values? How would you know? The urban residents didn't seem to think that way as much, and they have far more exposure to them. It reminds me of that Brexit vote. The rural Brits wanted to keep foreigners (namely Poles) out of the country, but Polish people didn't even live around them, they lived around London. And what did the London residents say? That they like the Poles!
And the urban residents don't share your values, either? How so, because they're "rushed"? Is that really a disqualifier for commonality? You said they're rushed because there are so many unfamiliar faces and they're all trying to make money, but you advise your kids to go to the city, to bust their butts and make a good living? What do you think that's going to look like?
I believe there is some truth to a difference in rural and urban people's values, but no facts where presented to show that these differences exist or what these differences are, specifically. This video simply doesn't support such a hypothesis, albeit, I think such an hypothesis will ultimately be proven true.
They were forgotten the instant they left the voting booth.
Most of these people are still ignorant...
Alex Lopez you made a hypocritical statement. It’s okay. Just hit that edit button and fix that nasty grammatical error.
So are most people who live in cities. Apathy rules the world right now.
Yes...explains why they cant find goods paying jobs.
The progressive leftist Democrat Marxist Jew politics didn't make these people uneducated and unable to find work.
No Steve, they are desperate. I was raised in a small mining town but have lived in large cities, St. Louis for 8 years and San Antonio Texas for 12. The problem with rural America is that there are no high paying jobs and you need transportation to reach the jobs that are available. There is little or no public transportation so that means you must own a car. Well with gas at 2.50 to 3.00 a gallon and mandatory insurance added to the cost of a reliable car, many people in rural areas can't afford to get to higher paying jobs. Wall-mart and fast food establishments have wiped out Main street and small restaurants. In the past they paid nearly nothing until recent pressure have forced them to increase wages. If a small town has industry and one or more of them close or move, the town dies and many of the people either cannot afford to re-locate or do not wish to lose family support or be unable to support their families. Rural communities have families that have lived there for centuries and have extended relatives through marriage throughout the community. If they move to another state they lose all that. So they are caught in a dilemma with no clear answer.
I often like to speak Spanish in public just to see if I can goad an ignoramus into confronting me, and then I pivot to perfect English and put them on blast, since English is indeed my first language.
I really think that these "English only" hayseeds are preoccupied with whether I am talking about them. If you want to dip on my business when I am speaking Spanish, then learn it.
Shh stop speaking spanish.
I do the same thing.
They forgot Spanish is a European language too and speaking another language is not a crime.
Some of these people are too unintelligent to even realize how much they're embarrassing themselves
Now I do agree with...
Stop tweeting!
Know your facts!
It’s not the politicians who ship our jobs overseas, it’s private industry that’s looking for cheap labor in other countries. Low wages, very little government regulation of working conditions and worker’s rights.
"Trump's the most unqualified President in the 20th century"... I agree with this sentiment, but "20th" century? Really??
The same people who complain about politicians being 'out of touch' or 'DC insiders' are the same people who never read up on the issues, or hold their elected officials accountable and vote for the same people year after year. The electorate is just as guilty as the people they vote into office year after year. EDIT: grammar
Why would a major manufacturing company come to rural America to open a business? Coal is a thing of the past. It is not coming back to provide jobs.
They are passive victims who are waiting for someone to save them. It doesn't seem as if they are proactive in their own success. On the other hand, if it is so nice to be there then why all the whining. Is it a good place or not. Do you really need something or do you just want something. They want big important high paying jobs. Great, what skills do you have? What education? If you were educated by the local high school to be a good follower of community protocol you likely don't know how to do much but follow orders.
Chris Johnson excelled points! "Passive victims" - very true. Are we supposed to feel sorry for people who sit around and do nothing to help themselves? But god forbid an illegal immigrant works 2 or 3 low wage jobs trying to improve the lives of their children. We sympathize with the whiny "victim" and vilify the hard worker?
How embarrassing for that area!
2:30 "You have to blame the people who voted to do that as well."
So eight of those voters will must accept responsibility for their own votes as well.
the world voted against coal maybe Americans need to be properly informed, Obama had no choice and neither does Trump despite his rhetoric....we've moved away from coal. Get that! Think greener!
Trump 👏 literally 👏 campaigned 👏 for 👏 places 👏 like 👏 this
I want a follow-up in 4 years
Beckah Mataronas pretty good black clapping emphasis...for a white girl lol. I read it black but I had to remind myself with the profile pic, "oh yea she's white" XD
Vilonious Lee we were taken out of a recession without hardly feeling it like they did in the 30's. Thanks to president obama :) But the market lost 2000 points this month :( thanks to president trump. Confidence in one. Mistrust in another. Or do you not like data?
Vilonious Lee Too bad he cut taxes and increased spending. That's going to show in the yearly deficit.
Vilonious Lee I'm not talking about Obama, Bush, or Clinton. I'm making zero comparisons. All I said is that Trump cut taxes while increasing spending. It doesn't matter how many people have jobs or how many companies enter the country. If you spend more than you make, you will have a deficit. Period. What do you think is going to happen when you increase spending and decrease revenue
Vilonious Lee I understand that, but companies large enough to have any real bearing can already avoid paying the full tax rate and many don't pay the full rate. Trickle down economics doesn't work, we've already tried it. The middle class is bringing home an extra $20-30 a week - a drop in the bucket for most families.
So what if you are forgotten?
What do others owe you exactly?
Change your life. A politician will never do it for you.
It's not a bad idea to learn a second language, whether that be Spanish or Afrikaans. It's just that Spanish is the second most spoken language in the US. Your child would be more competitive in the work force and would be more intellectually advanced compared to monolingual peers.
The Lone Hunt
Actually, I think we should demand a bilingual education. Many jobs prefer bilingual speakers. Why are we not educating our children?
You'd be much better off learning to speak Chinese.
@@starababa1985 Maybe. It probably depends on what field you work, or what state you live. If you live in California, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, you may want to learn Spanish to leverage earning potential in Mexico and Latin America. If you live in Washington DC, you may want to pick up Chinese to become a skilled diplomat or do embassy work. Just learn a second language, whichever it is! It's so good for your earnings and your brain's health.
My wife speaks three languages. I’m learning my 2 Asian languages, still we have a better chance to be more competitive.
“If you come to America, learn to speak American”. I didn’t know there is a language known as ‘American’.
There is an academically defined standared from of American English, but that abviously isn't what she was refer to.
There are hundreds of languages known as "American"
Dude it’s a figurative sentence and you don’t have to actually speak to speak a language, sign language is language
"Learn to speak American". You mean English.....
Also the rightful owner of America & Canada is Native Americans. Their are also entered the country, just like the other immigrants throughout history.
@@hunterkill97 Wrong.
@@BigPoppa-Monk How am I wrong? I know that, I am right in my point of view.
hunterkill97 This is worded weirdly
@@magz5850 I think hunterkill is doing a funny.
Learn to speak "American" lol. Lady doesn't know her own language I guess. When did someone ask you to conform to their religion or language lol.
Yusuf Celenli maybe she's Irish and her mother tongue is Gaelic, give her break...she doesn't speak English well. 😏
Yusuf Celenli the woman named Lisa is from Ohio and doesn't seem to know during the eighteenth, nineteenth, and early twentieth centuries, millions of immigrants migrated from Germany, Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia and ALL spoke non English. Never mind that so many studies show that speaking more than on language is a positive in so many ways.
Maria B. the woman's name is Lisa and she said if you choose to come to America learn to speak American. So shouldn't she do what she expects of others and learn proper English?
Beth Grant-DeRoos I agree! And I was being sarcastic with my comment
Yea it's especially weird when 1% of county residents are foreign born and these people are taking this issue so close to their heart - woof!
Rural people tend to be religious, hardworking,and independent normally but closely knit in emergencies.
No matter your party this country has been sold out. But people must take responsibility instead of pandering to political motives to solve their issues. Can't blame minorities for your failures. Every other people in America is grappling with survival but only these folks point fault blame & hatred to defend their lack.
someone should tell these people. that minimum wage jobs are largely what's available in the cities too... they are sort of snowflakey.
You have no say in this issue citybitch.
2.3% of jobs are paid at the federal minimum wage rate
When the pro Trump folks talked about how rude people are in the city they must have only been to cities in Ohio, because I know I encounter very friendly people in NYC, as well as over in San Francisco, down in Los Angeles.
We noticed that when visiting those small Midwest areas that in listening to folks like the pro Trump folks in this piece who want jobs that pay $25+ and hour that they also want cheap goods and services. You cannot have both.
The small business owner Steve Stills was correct when he said if you are a white collar worker (college educated white collar job) his area is not the place to live. But he should also know that blue collar incomes under $50k a year will have to be expected in his area.
There is a reason California is a high cost of living state. We have high tech and other high paying jobs that require a college education or very specialized training. Same with NYC, Boston, Seattle.
I completely agree with your statement about people from large cities being friendly. I am from NYC and have traveled most of the US and the world. I currently live in Midwest. People always comment in how friendly I am and would never think I am from a large city. The rudest people I encounter are always from smaller towns, they come off bitter and entitled. Although, I'm sure it has more to do with the fact that I am of darker complexion and they cannot easily categorize me.
I have travelled to many big cities and almost all of them were very friendly for the most part. My home city of Buffalo is very friendly for the most part. Despite its serious urban ills, Detroit is also a very friendly city. I have also found Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee, Omaha, Denver, and Houston to be very friendly and very accommodating. The only unfriendly and arrogant city that I experienced was the Texas capital city of Austin where I lived for nine years unfortunately. I left Austin and moved back to Buffalo in the spring of 2001.
It is not the strongest or the most intelligent who will survive but those who can best manage change. --Charles Darwin
In the early 80s, America's inequality, was roughly similar to Europe, with people at the bottom still owning most of the wealth and income. From them on, inequality just gradually rose, the proportions flipped, the top 1% has more than the bottom 50% or so. But in Europe, it remained roughly the same, there was some increase in the wealth of the top 1%, and some decrease on the poorest, but it does not even compare, by far.
These are the real 💩holes in our own home. Keep up with the times folks or get left behind. Snap out of your old ways and adapt to change for the better of our future as Americans.
American entertainment at it's very very best, weep USA.
I’m sick of worrying about these people, they want want want, yet they’re not willing to gangs with the times. Screw them.
We need to Make America Smart Again.
I died when they said it illegal how they come here let's not get started on how you all got here. And this is land they lived on and traveled to before Europeans existed they have every right to be here.
there was no civilized society then like now. Might was right back then.
Straight Outta Markarth How do you they lie non stop and hide native American artifacts that don't fit in with their stories.
I'm talking about conquering and occupying. The stronger tribe won against the weaker one. It was law of the jungle back then.
oh please, every civilization/tribe/kingdom then was fighting and multiplying thru occupation. the weaker tribe you mentioned got absorbed by the stronger tribe and they lost their own tribe name/cultures/customs.
Sincere Moments this was native land Mexicans are native people and were here before white European invaders illegall came here and had their anchor babies
These people need to take personal responsibility instead of blaming the government. The government isn't their nanny.
This comes from not giving a dam about other people and only concerned when issues affects you. 🤔
that humans for you
Shameless bigotry and scapegoating, the ignorance on display by a few in this focus group colors the county as ignorant. So, it begs the question, why would a company decide to locate there? Those of you who were dependent on the coal industry must have had a clue that the nation was moving away from coal as we have been for decades. Don't mind your fellow Americans who are dedicated to cleaner air. Finally, the audacity of making your drug addicts our nation's problem is a bit much. They became addicted because they were trying to get high, take care of your own as those in the cities and suburbs have done. Yet you still wonder why companies don't choose to locate to your shallow labor pool? Good Grief!
I believe that most of these addicts, became addicted from prescription drugs for pain prescribed by their doctors and pushed for by profit hungry pharmaceutical corporations seeking the increase those profits. They are victims, but they tend to blame the wrong sources and not the drug companies pushing their products. True some are certainly as you haves described, but then compassion is still needed to help those who make a self-inflicted wound.
I believe it's too easy to call people ignorant and forget where their attitudes are coming from. Maybe if you had a high school education and had lost the highest paying job you could expect to land and were faced with losing your home, not being able to feed your family and/or leaving your home and being forced to move elsewhere just to keep body and soul together...you might feel a little desperate and be casting around for new answers yourself. What do we have to offer to help these people live a satisfying life? We can't just continue to call them ignorant and forget they may not have had the same advantages as others of us. We need to help find solutions. It's too easy to respond negatively and ignore the legitimacy of peoples' concerns.
@@SECook-vw8lg Immigrants come here, settle down, and educate themselves and their offspring. There is nothing holding these people back, but their ignorance and their belief that jobs must come to them.
Hmmmmm. I used to be poor but I made a choice to work extremely hard to come out of that situation. Those people have that same opportunity as I did.
Coal industries and nuclear industries shutting down isn't a bad thing for the world, the environment. But when you have actual people relying on these jobs, take them away and leave them to rot, you've got a problem. It should be a good thing to look for cleaner, better options for energy. It shouldn't however, mean people have to suffer. That's what happens when everything is run for profit, the individual doesn't matter.
Please don't blame voters - voters don't have any real power currently. A system that forces people to desire dangerous jobs like coal mining over clean energy because they might end up in dire poverty is no system for the people.
I hate the self inflicted argument. Even IF someone makes a poor choice, it doesn't suddenly invalidate their status as a human being and almost no one gets involved in something like drugs for no reason. Judgement does nothing but make the individual feel satisfied and feel as if they don't have to care. Empathy and understand cost nothing in itself, but will certainly help more people in the long run. Judgement just leaves people out in the cold. Besides, if people can't get well paying jobs, they lost their dignity and self worth which may lead to to substance abuse. Just because YOU, yourself would never get to that level, doesn't mean their reasons don't matter.
The whole 'they cost the tax payer ' yeah, well so the rich hiding all their billions - blame them, not some powerless person in he middle of nowhere in Ohio.
The rich elite love that you guys are all blaming each other for government help and food stamps. Keep it up, you're doing the work for them! Do these people have any proof of what they are saying? Babies born from Mexican mothers have more rights than American citizens? How???????
It is Illegal, but it's not like they come here to take all of what's yours because they just want to. They'd leave too if they were poor Mexicans. Bigger problems require bigger solution(as in fixing the whole entire system, in all countries).
Are these people trying to tell me American born kids are being forced to learn Spanish in Ohio because Sofia Maria Ramirez is the only Mexican girl in their class. Give me a break. This is nothing but them fear mongering themselves.
Rosalina 90 youre speaking the truth. Did you hear the lady saying "theyre bringing their religion here". Umm excuse me did you not know anyone can practice anything in America. Its the freedom of religion.
They do. They have sanctuary cities and counties now. Protecting them.
the people to blame for these people not having jobs. is the corporations and especially the oil companies.
Wow the ignorance blows me away. No wonder Trump was voted in.
Which is why Trump said during the campaign 3 years ago : " I love the uneducated".
And you think things would be better if Hillary got elected? 😂😂
@@LionofJudah75 NO! We did not want Hillary EITHER. The last election sucked. Both candidates SUCKED.
@@LionofJudah75 yes, Hillary is actually intelligent and educated. Unlike Trump the total moron.
Honestly it doesn't matter who is voted in for you... . You've been sold out.... make merica great again !!!
When I look back at the ghetto I grew up in NYC I'd still take the crime and debauchery over living in that place.
It's the same people.
Wow!
@@kentuckyboychris Right in many ways most Americans urban or rural are deplorable
It is scary to hear the old guy saying that a WW III is inevitable. That might be true but once you enter that mindset, you essentially take all incentive out to avoid potential catastrophic conflict. And no, it would not be necessarily good for the economy. People forget that this is no longer the 30's and 40's, and the methods of war have changed.
yakuza01 Yeah and this time the USA could end up getting bombed and blown to pieces just like both Germany and Japan during World War Two.