Maxpeedingrods Traction Bar Install & Review - 88-91 Civic / CRX EF
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2020
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Hey. What’s up man. Great videos. I tried to order this traction bar but they kept asking me for a passport or social. Wanted to know. If u went threw the same.
No, it shouldn't. I don't remember that.
Besides lighter chassis and probably a stronger motor, I suspect the gearing is a better match for the CRX
The roads in Mexico are smooth
They're really taking care of the roads over there, it's surprising.
Yes sir the Rex is pretty sweet. I love that teal on the EG, one of my favorite Honda color!
PCI header shield does amazing to protect the lower portion that's open from the traction bar.
Oh damn, I really like that little poll you added
Also never realized the roon49 had a longtube header! Super cool! The lighter chassis and modifications being put to work i see.
I finally got my K24A2 with 6 speed LSD to go in my 1989 CRX. I have a ways to go but might need a traction bar and some suspension soon.
That's going to be awesome! Make some videos!
Love that hatch. Really like that color!
Wow that EG looks beautiful
Congrats on the 50k subs. You've come far.
Thank you!
The crx is looking so good 👌🏽
Gearing makes a huge difference! Also the bolt ons lol
Love your videos thanks 👍👍 keep them coming.
Thanks
Great video Jon crx looking great man
You just got widmer'd lol. Nice runs bud and maxpeeding rods must love all the testing you give their parts.
Lol, I'm sure it helps them out for some sales!
I cannot wait for my shirt to come in!!!
Salute to the best of the best!!
CRX with the Torque 💪🏋️
Awh yea a new vid, today is gonna be a good day
I love it! Will look good for my 2 crx
Nice bro you grey hounded that guy!
I love ow you don't have all them annoying Ass jump cuts, in your video's like most youtubers.
Newtype!!!!! The crx looks good
Old school right there. Cool to be hanging with Jaime again like this.
Love your car garage that goals Honda 4 life.
I just bought my 3rd.. so i have a 89 crx si 89 civic hatch dx auto 100% stock with cold ac and ps.. and i just got a 90 dx hatch
Gotta put a bigger exhaust on that eg
Still has that peashooter exhaust on it 👍🏼
Nice i have a 1989 base crx with a d15b2 16 valves with d16y8 head gasket 272 Delta camshaft regrind header with free flow exhaust system homemade and with a old school knowledge trick on the duel point fuel injectors and gd air filter lighter flywheel and gd clutch and others things old school tricks mambo king and i can say she really do fly i bit a couple si with more power like i say she is real fast gd on gas i even have short skunk radiator on and she sounds tuff and looks real tuff people seems to love her old school style look like a sitting bull frog even the state police look at her in the highway and put finger up people talk about engine but we all have to remember the d15b2 16 valves have light internal parts and with bore and polish head and a cam and tb work become a monster believe me i know i build my with junkyard parts and old school style knowledge gd video amigo
Hell yeah john!
Those Denjis :O
Just got my shirt and stickers awesome :)
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That crx looks and sounds strong man! I miss the all motor vtec crossover sometimes
It's pretty fun man. You should drive it out at ASR, I think you'll enjoy it!
Idk man. What if I get the itch to do that instead of drag racing ... haha I know how I am and I can’t even afford my current project haha
Then we'll find you an inexpensive crx for this kind of fun. You dont need a lot of power to have fun out here. It's much easier on the wallet! 😀
That traction bar looks to be a good quality. Like you said. Those welds are nice and thick. Not a bad price either. That DX hatch is very clean. Love the matching color valve cover. Love that blue. The whole car looks like it came right off the show room floor. Has the track reopened yet?
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Not yet. Hopefully this summer.
I'd like to see some flat floor areo .so under rated 😊
Your crx gapped that hatch bro! It’s quick man. I raced my buddies 99 civic with a y8 and chipped Ecu and we were tie.
Nice. I'd like to race some other friends too for fun. It's always a blast win or lose.
Garage Built Hondas yes indeed bro, it’s the adrenaline rush cause you don’t know what’s going to happen. Win or loose its all still a good time.
Wish They made a rally coilover so I can try it out 😭
The air wing on civic cause a big air resistance for that it slow a little bit in drag race.
March 31st my birthday! Woot
Happy birthday to you!
I have a 89 hatchback with a bswaped cable trans. Do you know whats needed to adapt to d series front mounts?
You can make some custom brackets and use an innovative or Hasport mount. If you're swapped you're using aftermarket mounts already right? You don't need the front mount with nice aftermarket mounts. The front mount is not needed in that case
Hey Jon!
Is the traction bar lighter than the OG frame? Love the vids, keep it up.
Its heavier by a couple lbs.
Will I need to buy a separate mount for the transmission mount in the front or does it come with it
Yes. It doesn't come with it.
The rex was gone! Haha
The gsr trans' gearing is the culprit :)
Or maybe it's the funky full-send duckbill? Good stuff as always
Maybe both, plus the choked up exhaust.
@@GarageBuiltHondas EG exhaust install video coming up?
Possibly, maybe just some sound clips and a race or two again.
Great video, don’t know who thumbs down this but screw them. Nice bar for the price definitely but innovative all the way. Peace
Right...lol. At least they took the time to come by and click my video.
Do you know if the heim joints are the same thread pitch and size as innovative I'm running a Maxpeedingrods T04E turbo and H beam rods in my D16 turbo EF sedan
Im unsure.
Would this traction bar work on a ef sedan with a b20v setup and not hit the crank pulley
Yes
Hmm, interesting.. ive been seeing a lot of newer maxspeedingrods's products, but just recently I've watched one of theyre trac bar installs on young statics channel, that one in particular mounted to the factory toe hook locations. Personally I like this design better
Me too. I don't like the tow hook bars one bit.
I don't think the one static installed was a maxpeedingrods it was just a no name ($79 el cheapo) this one is definitely higher quality better made part. Kinda wish I hadn't just spent over $350 for the innovative pro series.
I have the ktuned version I’ve been running it about 3 years hasn’t given me an issue but I wish it sat a little higher.
At 7:22, you should have put the Kevin Hart " nooooooooooooo, he wasn't ready"
where did you get that Honda CRX spoiler? Looks so good
That video will be out in 2 weeks!
I really want a SiR front end for my crx:(
to do the conversion from dpfi to mpfi that ecu deserves recommendation?
ua-cam.com/video/igGZthAHGSI/v-deo.html
the crx was out! Good runs!
Its decently quick. You coming to asr in june?
Garage Built Hondas not sure
You're ready, let's go!
That EG looks good. Where do you guys find these clean hondas all the ones in my area are rusted in the rear quarter panels and spray painted.
There are usually plenty here since we live in the desert. They survive pretty easily.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Do you mind me asking how much your friend paid for the hatch?
5k
Wat engine is inside of your Honda crx bro cuz that thing it fast an the Traction bar really helped your Honda out on take off an your friend can not drive yo Honda crx but he misses a gear an red lines it
B16. It's a fun little engine. My buddy was sleeping a bit on the launches unfortunately.
Looks just like the efparts traction bar.
It does. 👍
What did you do about the front mount on A D series?
You're SOL
Hey bro, been thinking of getting this track bar to fix my caster on my hatch. My question is though do they also sell the mount for the motor ( still have d series but debating on going b series one day)? Thanks and love all your content !! has helped me a bunch with my build!!!
No, it doesn't have the D mount provision but. You may want to look at your rear subframe. If you're having caster issues something might be cracked or bent.
@@GarageBuiltHondas for sure! and my bad buddy i forgot to add I lowered the car and that's why I wanted to adjust and fix the caster it did an alignment at work and it's off over all by .6 which isn't bad just just a tad over spec
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Traction bars are not recommended for road racing. You are better off getting pci racing upper control arms that has caster adjustments to fix your issue.
Can I use that bar with the D series swap? I ask because the front transmission mount, where can I get the front mount at for that type of bar? Thanks in advance.
They don't make one. Either upgrade to aftermarket mounts or skip the bar. A traction bar is there for performance, to reduce wheel hop. There's really no need or a benefit for a traction bar if you're using stock engine mounts.
@@GarageBuiltHondas it will give me more Clarence for bigger headers or turbo kits, so where can I get the aftermarket mount and bracket for it, I should have specifies that in my first question.
I already answered your question in the previous response.
Looks like it does well but once u add in shipping its $220 to might as well spend the extra $60 and get the K tuned traction bar
Great point. 👍
How has the bar held up to the abuse and track any input thinking of buying this instead of the higher priced ones
It's been great, no issues.
Where did you find a jdm bumper with the signal lights like that? Trying to find one for my EF
Ebay, local online spots. You'll need the headlights and hood too. It won't fit otherwise.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks for always replying man
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Will this traction bar fit a EF civic?? I want a traction bar that utilizes the 17mm bolts and not the tow bar bolts
Watch the video. 👍
Hey man is there a way we can get a update on how the traction bar held up since installing 2 yrs ago?
ua-cam.com/video/r4MRD1n7RpA/v-deo.html No issues. It's now on this car and will be tracked again soon.
Between this one and the Innovative bars you've used before which one do you prefer? Which one performs better all around?
Honestly this bar looks like a rep of Innovative's bar. I own 2 Innovative bars and love them. I've had no issues with either of those also. Obviously for price, this one is cheaper. If the shipping really drives the price up then that doesn't separate them much and Innovative is known for their quality, maxpeedingrods is new and trying to make a place for themselves. I dont see any reason the MXR bar and radius rods would fail, but I'd like to see how the heim joints hold up. One of my Innovative bars has been tracked for 3 years and I haven't had any issues at all.
@GarageBuiltHondas I know this is a real old comment, however... I've already installed a traction bar on my ef, and now I'm seeing people saying that it affects handling, making it not handle nearly as good as it did before. Have you noticed a negative difference?
No
Any issues not using the front mount anymore?
Not with aftermarket mounts.
Hi. Front engine support is not necessary? can you ride without it?
Only with urethane mounts, not recommended remove it for OEM mounts.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Thanks!
Once the install is over, did it throw your alignment off? I have very few people in my area who do alignments and I’m hesitant to install mine until I find someone who can align it if the install throws it way off
It's recommended to get an alignment after. Mine didn't seem off at all and I still haven't aligned it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Did you eyeball it at all? Or just threw the radius rods on there? Btw, I highly respect you and your channel. You’re about the only one that answers my comments 💯
I adjusted the rods so the lined perfectly with the LCAs. Since I have energy suspension bushings in my LCA it didn't move forward or back as it keeps it in place. Stock bushings or worn out bushings will let you LCAs move so you need to be careful. Ask me how I know. 👍
@@GarageBuiltHondas awesome I’ll keep that in mind. I replaced my lcas a few years back so I’m sure there will be play so I’ll keep an eye on it when I install my traction bar. Thanks so much!
Did you have to get an alignment afterwards?
You should. It's recommended after changing a major suspension component.
hows the clearance of this compared to the innovation v1 and v2
Same. ua-cam.com/video/DOirY8HxiYw/v-deo.html
jon just checked out the traction bar for myself did you have to pay 120 for shipping?
That's why I haven't grabbed one hell the shipping is more than the bar an if I'm puttn 200 on it then ima just grab the new innovative one for 350 or find a used old style innovative one if I cud get it for 150 id pull the trigger
Josh Dane yeah I already have the innovative replacement bar on my crx but I want an actual traction bar. I saw the 120 for shipping and was like wtf is this for real the shipping is more then the bar itself.
Hey do you know where I can get some Crx fenders
Google or ebay
What's the better option? MaXPeedingRods or innovative pro series trac bar? is it safe to jack up the car with the MaXPeedingRods trac bar with a floor jack?
It's a replica of innovative. Just cheaper. Seems fine.
Yes
@@GarageBuiltHondas like the OEM location with OEM crossmember.***
Do they make these for DA9/DB2 Integra's?
Doesn't look like it yet.
Can this be used with the stock d-series motor? As far as the front trans mount hooking up to the traction bar.
You would have to get one welded on if using stock front mount location
Cristian is that front trans mount needed?
@@larrycheung609 I would suggest it unless you have real stiff motor mount for the other 4
Cristian got it! Thanks for the advise
Honestly I wouldn't doubt if you could use the innovative bracket they make for either a b or d engine. The bar has the provision for it. Here's a link to Innovative's D mount bracket.
innovativemounts.com/collections/d-series/products/88-91-civic-crx-conversion-front-engine-mount-d-series-cable
Where did you order the traction bar from?
"GBH"-8% off for all orders over $ 200 USD
www.maxpeedingrods.com/?tracking=5c78ce8fb11b5
What brake lines are on that crx?
I have the link in the description. 👍
Do you worry about hitting the oil pan or header?
Nah. It's not that low. I've been driving these kind of cars for a long time and have had good luck with them.
What grade hardware does it come with?
That's a good question. Let me check and see if I can find out.
what're you plans for the hood
Probably sand it down so there's no paint chips and then throw some vinyl onto it so it looks a little nicer. Probably cut the webbing out also. I doubt I'll replace it. JDM hoods aren't cheap.
I was just looking it up
And its 150 just on shipping plus
108 on it
Contact them. They might be out of stock at the US warehouse. When they restock it will be less expensive.
Haha that GSR is too long of a geared transmission for a B16 lol.
Do they ship from China? How long did you have to wait
They do. About a 7-10 days.
do u sell the garagebuilthonda spark plug cover ?
No, someone made it for me.
@@GarageBuiltHondas sick bro should look into getting them made and selling them dope af
Thanks man, I love it!
How long u waited for the shipping?
Maybe 2 weeks.
who ever dislike i will hunt you down
I have a unique set of skills I will find you
How much was shipping. I tried to buy one but they charge 146 to ship it from China
Email them. Ask when they will have more US stock available.
@@GarageBuiltHondas ok will do thanks for the info
Have you guys shipped out any shirts yet?
Not yet. They should be finished in the next 1-3 days and I'll be shipping out as soon as he is done making them. 👍
Was $95?
Price has gone way up now.
Did you feel the road more with this? I mean do you feel the vibration on road more since there is no more rubber bushing on the radius rod.
No. The difference is unnoticeable especially when you're already running harder urethane bushings.
Now if your suspension is still stock you might.
How's the coilovers holding up
Perfect
I also really need to know the dimensions of the heim joints, maxpeeding rods wont sell me them separately, theres play in one of them makes for scetchy castor in rain
Are you on Instagram?
@@GarageBuiltHondas hi man, no im not to be honest, Ive never used it, I know the measurement of the bore of the heim its 12mm and the threaded part is 20mm, not sure on the thread pitch, the closest I can find is 1/2 by 3/4 which is 12.6mm by 19.4mm approximately, I think theyre right hand threaded but not fully sure
My bad I measured it wrong, I think its a 1/2 bore by 5/8 which is 15.88mm i measured the width of threaded to bar as near 16, think its UNF, but i.ll find out soon, are they Right handed thread?
I forgot theres spacers so these joints could be 5/8 by 5/8 or M16 by M16, maxpeeding if your reading these give us the dimensions, you have to take the whole rod off to measure them!
Saying that the 12mm bolt wouldnt be a good fit, so my best guess is 1/2 bore 5/8 joint, but i need to find out the thread pitch, most likely UNF
does it hold up to a jack?
It does. I don't recommend leaving the jack on the bar supporting the weight of the car but that's all traction bars. Easily lift the car by them, but then use jack stands as normal.
Yellow engine bay 👀👀 is that a cursed y49??
It was doing rough when I got it. Its in much better mechanical shape now. ua-cam.com/play/PL9veTzRcotDkRzzLTFT5P726_O04z2Nbi.html
MONICAAAAAAAAA
Do you have to do any adjustments or aliment at all?
Yes both I have the innonvative witch is similar but I like there’s a bit better
Yes, you'll need to get it aligned. This car hadn't been in this video but has been now that we're getting ready for track days.
Silly question, but what do you tell the aliment shop? Or do they already know just by looking at it...??
I have a guy whom does my alignments on the side after hours. He'll set it to whatever specs I prefer.
Mongerz they will know just bylooking
Great video man, just one question... how do you adjust the traction rod without removing the front rose joint when doing alignment
Also whats your caster setting with this traction bar?
Thanks man
You unfortunately have to remove it. It's kind of a pain in the a$$ honestly for your alignment guy. My dude always hooks it up though and sets it to however I prefer. I personally keep everything set to stock specs except camber.
Ok, cool thanks man
How did it ride before the alignment, and after, was there a noticeable difference?
It goes straight. That's the difference.
I watched this video then looked up the website was so excited to order it after I caught up on bills after this COVID thing I was like man 100$ for a good one that bolts to factory spots then shipping was 120$ guess I’m not getting it now 😒
They ran out of stock at their US warehouse after I released the video. My contact said they are working on getting it resupplied and hopefully will do so in July if you don't mind waiting.
Dang thank you for responding so fast man yes I will definitely wait I was looking into the plm one for 150 but it bolts to the tow hook spot iv heard that those are a bad design that they come loose iv never ran a traction bar but I have a b16 in my crx with a 1320 header and the stock one is way hacked up it looks like the previous owner used a chisel and hammer to cut and notch it for the header to fit lol
They always mess them up unfortunately.
I don't like those traction bars either. I've only seen bad things with them.
Is this traction bar adjustable for caster?
Yes
Garage Built Hondas how’s it holding up on your Crx? Would you recommend
Garage Built Hondas I just ordered me one and used your discount code ✊🤙🏻
I love it honestly. I have driven the car hard a handful of times already and zero issues.
Dope ,
Went to buy one of these traction bars and the shipping is more than the traction bar.
I've heard. Maybe they can have a bunch at a US warehouse.
What radiator are you running?
Stock
@@GarageBuiltHondas stock rad is leaking on mine with da hoses :( don’t wanna clamp them down too much and brake the plastic
Shouldn't be a problem unless your radiator is old and brittle.
I was thinking there's too much down force from that wing .lmao
Lol