The CLEANEST Compression Possible (not clickbait)
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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All Toneboosters plugins are excellent, and very under-appreciated. Mostly because Jeroen does not want to spend any money on promoting them, and just makes his plugins more affordable. I have used them for years in my mixing, and they have replaced most expensive plugins I had, like Fabfilter etc...
And also very genereous of him to keep the plugins in FOREVER DEMO mode. So simply you can not save presets but use however you like
@@Keroser1983 I found a work around, where I slapped their parametric EQ into a channel-strip, and saved the strip as a preset, which also saves the parameters of the TB-EQ4 with it.
@@FerinSonnyIn Reaper, you could just create plugin-specific presets outside of the plugin itself. But I would really recommend buying then - they are very affordable.
IMHO, they are too cheap for all they offer. But it only shows how much of your money usually goes directly to ads and paid promotions when you buy most plugins...
i remember when theres a free tonebooster frequency analyzer app for mobile, very useful
Toneboosters really are hugely underrated, despite having such slick DSP and low prices. Hopefully more people give them the attention they deserve!
Black Rooster KH-COMP1 has a selectable Hilbert detector as well. Only other comp I know that has it.
Cool I'll check that out, thanks!
The product TDR Molot GE, Kotelnikov(RMS) also includes the Hilbert algorithm. Just like the TB Compressor shown in the video, it can maintain very low THD. Check it out.
Black rooster KH-COMP1 and Pristine Peaks for Hilbert transform based compression/limiting.
Yup! Theres an old thread on the GearSpace Where Fabien and Black Rooster are talking about how it works and some of the draw backs and fixes. The challenge with the Hilbert transform is by itself its not a very useful detector for musics. But I guess there are some trade secrets to get the Hilbert transform to work. One of guys mentioned filtering and windowing methods, like applying Hamming windows, I guess it helps smooth out the signal somehow. Idk. That’s where I started to get lost. You would think you could also combining it with other detection methods like RMS detection, creating a hybrid approach. Pretty cool stuff!
I'm also aware that the Kotelnikov is CLEAN. Starting to prefer it over mojo and emulations !
Damn.. I love this channel...... So must goodness in sharing info , all impeccable, for not only the beginners, but also the well versed..
Thank you!
Appreciate all the constant, meaningful effort.
Sonible Smart Comp2 is ridiculously clean.
But also with insane latency - makes it useless for production work of any kind.
Thank you Sage!
Thanks for watching!
I deliberately use compressors that CAUSE distortion.
But the Toneboosters plug-ins are great indeed, some of the modes have built-in saturation, so they are versatile too!
Some of the best bang-for-bug
This is the content I am here for. I know it took a lot of work on your part, thanks so much for your efforts. You have made some dramatic and potentially controversial findings here; that a $29 compressor can be cleaner than a $7,000 digital mastering compressor of legendary pedigree. Pretty incredible
Thanks for watching!
Just when I thought I was aware of all cons in some adjustments, like phase in EQ, pre-ring, etc, SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP!
🤩Wow, thank you for explaining this!
Wow! This is something. Seems like I have to get the Tone Booster’s compressor now
🪬 love your work very good info!
I often use Klunghelm DC8C 3 for clean compression, and it sounds great.
It has a dedicated CLEAN mode, so I'm wondering if they use the same technology.
I'm going to compare them. Thanks for the interesting video.
The newest Toneboosters EQ Pro that just came out like a week ago is fantastic. If you're reading this comment, you owe it to yourself to check it out.
Just checked it out - very cool!
FirComp2
thougths on spectral compression?
i dare to say that it's basically dynamic multi band equalization with detailed parameters...
Toneboosters is underdog vibes!
Wow the tone booster compressor destroyed the Fab filter. I love it!
Good video! Definitely gonna check out that tb compressor, fab filter gets there compressors smoother by filtering the detector after it gets it's reading, same thing with their lookahead delay. Smoother but needs to be adaptive like you said to the input to have minimal THD
By the way, this Weiss DS1-MK3 has the best sounding limiting I heard. It would be interesting if you test and compare it with other high quality limiters.
FirComp 2 is also really clean
I've only tried the first one, I'll check it out - thanks!
One would simply expect more distortion from a "punch" algorithm, but turns out this is far from the case
Hey Sage. How big of a deal is distortion with compression if I'm mastering music that heavily relies on distortion, ie. hiphop. I frequently use wave shaping in loud genres anyway, so should I worry about it with compression?
It's not a big deal! It's really up to your personal preference. Limiters and clippers will introduce a good amount of distortion, so if compression is needed beforehand, this could be a good processor to reduce the overall amount of distortion (since it would reduce the amount of limiting needed and introduce little distortion). I'd recommend testing it out in your chain and seeing if you like it - only way to really know if it works for you.
UrsaDSP Boost is super clean as well
Is there a way to use a compressor at 0ms attack to reduce a transient without causing distortion or would you use a limiter in that case instead?
lookahead
@@jamiewilliams7679 or a clipper maybe?
@@ThalamusGhipopotamus what should i set it to to not cause distortion when the attack is at 0ms?
@@moksja667 yeah clippers are good for that but can sometimes cause distortion.
@@jamiewilliams7679
you can start with 0.5 ms.
I don't want a clean compressor😅
You have a lot of options for compression that introduce distortion!
You need a "not clickbait" in your title, sir. I almost scrolled right past, thinking this was just another one of those audio vids about gear bias, selling something, opining with no facts.... i'm so sick of that garbage.
It's no wonder, engineers don't know what they're doing, digesting the brain-rot from engineers that don't know what they're doing.
Thanks for the suggestion! I just put that in the title haha