The whale trainer, Sonny Allen, founded IMATA (International Marine Animal Trainers' Association) It's mission: dedicated to advancing the humane care and handling of marine animals by fostering communication between professionals that serve marine animal science through training, public display, research, husbandry, conservation, and education. He passed away in 1997.
+D Travolta Your brother was so young and handsome and dressed so hip for his appearance. I would have guessed that he was one of those teen idol singers that Philadelphia produced so much of, the kind that Dick Clark introduced on American Bandstand. But he had a much more far-reaching purpose in his life. And as a "Star Trek" fan, I can't help but wonder what he thought of "Star Trek IV" and the idea that life on Earth depended upon the survival of humpback whales.
@@loissimmons6558 Hi Lois, Sonny did sing on the Street Corners in Philly 🎼 He knew Bobby Rydell and Frankie Avalon 🎶 He was very meticulous about the way he dressed, your right about that!! I miss jitterbugging with him😢 I miss him very much 💖😢 Thanks for your comment 🥰
I liked that they spent some time talking about the whales. This must have been around the time when perceptions were changing from the frightening monster of Moby Dick to the gentle giant of today.
Imagine a time when Woody Allen *wasn't* known for films! He was a very funny standup--I still listen to his album. Wish he made more than one. He was also a pretty funny writer (as in, books).
Reluctant Dragon I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard him answer "no" to the question of "Are you primarily known for your work in films?" It *is* hard to imagine now!
I remember when he was only known for stand-up very well, in the early 1960's. His stock character was the nebbishy Jewish guy who couldn't succeed with women; who always got picked last for the baseball team in school; was socially gauche and physically clumsy. "What's New Pussycat" showcases this character. He's still there in "Play It Again, Sam" and "Take The Money And Run." "Annie Hall" in 1977 was the first time the Allen film persona successfully pursued and won women.
I'm guessing nightclub entertainer is just another way of describing a stand-up comedian. Though nightclub entertainer is much more broad since that can include singers.
@@lanef58 , not exactly. He wrote for Sid Caesar's specials after Caesar's Hour (and long after Your Show of Shows) went off the air. His main TV writing credit was for the Jack Parr version of The Tonight Show. He wrote humorous magazine pieces for The New Yorker and Playboy. Before his movie career, he was probably best known as a stand-up comic in night clubs and guest appearances on television, and on lp records.
@kevinwachs5905 And as a playwright. I believe he had completed Don't Go Near the Water(or was it Don't Drink the Water?) and Play it Again Sam, in the 1960s. Play it Again, Sam was made into a hilarious film. He wrote the screenplay and starred in it. Also, it featured a young Diane Keaton. Woody didn't direct it, but that would soon change in his subsequent film projects. He's a brilliant, prolific filmmaker.
@bigoldinosaur. I'm surprised that Allen Ludden didn't mention that. If Bennett Cerf had been there, he would have said "we're surrounded by Allens today! There are 3 of them. Allen Ludden, Sonny Allen, and Woody Allen."
Dorothy was very "happy" tonight. :) First she introduced Allen Ludden as the host of "Passport" instead of "Password" 0:53 and last she said good night to "Allen Lullen (!?)"? :) 24:33
I had the pleasure to see the film debut of Woody Allen in "What's New, Pussycat?". A cute, and totally-1960's comedy. The film was loaded with sex symbols of the 1960's, including Romy Schneider, Capucine, Paula Prentiss, Ursula Andress, etc.
0:22- "Brought to you by----- KOOL! Come all the way up to KOOL FILTER KINGS......and taste the most refreshing coolness you can get in ANY cigarette!"
Allen didn't seem to like it that much, though. He admired its director, British-born Clive Donner (it was his first Hollywood film), but he hated how the studio (United Artists Corporation), mishandled the script he wrote for them. He said it would have been a much better film, had he directed it. After that, he made sure he had complete control on all of his future projects.
"What's New, Pussycat?" was the beginning of Woody Allen's link with United Artists Corporation. Here is a list of all the films he made from 1965 to 1980 (unless otherwise stated, all of his films during this period were for UA): "What's New, Pussycat?" (1965; Writer/Actor) "What's Up, Tiger Lilly?" (1966; Director/Himself/Dub Actor/Associate Producer; American International Pictures) "Casino Royale" (1967; Actor; Columbia Pictures) "Take the Money and Run" (1969; Director/Writer/Actor; Cinerama Releasing/ABC Pictures) "Men of Crisis: The Harvey Wallinger Story" (1971; Director/Writer/Actor; PBS) "Bananas" (1971; Director/Writer/Actor) "Play it Again, Sam" (1972; Writer/Actor; Paramount) "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* *But Were Afraid to Ask" (1972; Director/Writer/Actor) "Sleeper" (1973; Director/Composer/Writer/Actor) "Love and Death" (1975; Director/Writer/Actor) "The Front" (1976; Actor; Columbia Pictures) "Annie Hall" (1977; Director/Writer/Actor) "Interiors" (1978; Director/Writer) "Manhattan" (1979; Director/Writer/Actor) "Stardust Memories" (1980; Director/Writer/Actor)
It is always a pleasure to read posts from family members and/or close friends. Your brother was a joy to watch in this episode, and his accomplishments are to be commended. Thank you!!
The welcome back was intended, I think, to be an expression of delight at seeing the posting of videos resume after a day of no posting. A sentiment which I share.
romeman01 As I explained to Joe elsewhere before responding to him here, there *was* a video yesterday: the show from the preceding week with Muhammad Ali, as per schedule. There were no email notifications for it due to YT technical issues, that's all. I haven't been anywhere, and the schedule hasn't been interrupted. But again, thanks.
Now that you mention it, I see that there IS the video from the preceding week on UA-cam in your name. But UA-cam is showing it as having been posted two weeks ago. (Perhaps you also explained the reason for this elsewhere, if so, sorry about my inability to keep up with things.) I consult no e-mails. I rely upon searching UA-cam for What's My Line?, ordered according to the most recent videos, and I kept looking and looking yesterday and also today for a posting bearing yesterday's date. I even opened your channel and clicked the videos link, but again, there was the video of two days ago and the video of today but none for yesterday (that is why I concluded there was no posting). I did not know enough to look two weeks ago.
romeman01 Forgive me for trying to weasel out of explaining, I just grew tired of retyping the explanation after the 4th time. :) What happened was that Tuesday's video was made visible to the public due a YT glitch, nothing I did (all the videos are uploaded in advance and scheduled to post automatically or I'd never be posting regularly-- I'm far too unreliable for that.) When I noticed the glitch, I changed the status of the video back to "private", but as far as YT is concerned, the video was first posted two weeks ago, even though it was invisible to the public for all but a few hours. The only way I could have addressed this would have been to delete the video and re-upload it because-- as I would assume you're well aware, since you've posted a good deal here yourself-- UA-cam is a pain in the butt!
In all of his many appearances as guest panelist, the round with the whale trainer was Martin Gabel's worst, at least so far. In his first try, he barely survived a "no" when he asked if the guest did something in the athletic field when John said physical dexterity was necessary. He then followed up with whether the guest was connected with sports, which it is hard to imagine he would have been since he was not involved with athletics, and of course, he received a no. Then when Arlene made it clear that porpoise was not the right animal, Martin asked about a porpoise, Martin was generally a good player, and I far prefer his intros of John to Bennett's, but everyone has an off night sometime.
"Allen/Allan" seems to be the name tonight. Allen Ludden was in the panel, Sonny Allen was a contestant, Woody Allen was the MG, Martin Gabel thought it was Steve Allen and Dorothy guessed Allan Sherman!
If the question of Arlene's had just been answered straightforwardly (a whale is not a fish at all, it is a mammal) no hilarity would have ensued and no clue given. John dropped the ball on this one.
Joe Postove I don't think so. A person can be highly intelligent and still very weak on certain subjects. John's verbal gymnastics alone (among many other observable qualities) indicate how intelligent he was. And let's not forget that everyone else on the show makes the same mistakes-- considering "animal" to mean the same thing as "mammal"; considering plants to have never been alive; not considering human beings to be animals. . . the same mistakes, over and over again. Unless you want to extend the verdict of "can't be all that smart if he could get things this basic wrong" to everyone who's ever been on WML-- including the contestants, who never object either-- I don't think this should be taken as a signal that anyone is overestimating John's intelligence. It remains surprising to me every time it happens, predictable as it is, because I consider him otherwise so clearly so very intelligent, and almost always spot-on in his moderating of the answers..
What's My Line? I understand your point, Gary, and I don't really mean to make a generic point about John's intelligence (I think I formed it more as a question, as Alex would like) but I'm sure you've spoken with people or read books where such an obvious piece of information is wrong that one might call into question the general soundness of all of the other information you may get from that source. As for John Daly, that is almost certainly not true, but it is a little worrisome when he misses an easy one. Although I know PHD's who are genius' but bad on dates, and I'm a college dropout and pretty good one dates, so I may be a bit unfair sometimes.
Joe Postove What also puzzles me is that there's never any reference to viewers writing in about these obvious, basic mistakes about biology. At some point in the 1950s there was a show where John gave an incorrect answer on a pretty technical point concerning worms, and addressed the error, which was pointed out in viewer mail, on the next show. But no one in the audience ever wrote in to correct the obvious, not-technical errors made over and over again? How about the time John ruled lobsters to be fish? They must have gotten mail on these things. . . but never a mention of it on air after the worm contretemps.
Sadly it appears Dorothy is "off" in this episode. Could it be that she's drinking again, and that it ultimately contributed to her demise a few weeks later. I feel sad....it's like knowing we're going to lose Dorothy soon.... :-(
No, she didn't have a drinking problem. None of her 700 episodes indicates that she had one. Evidence is that she was the only breadwinner in her household, and her husband drank too much without any doubt. You can see his deterioration between his panel gig on February 3, 1957 and video of him as one of four mystery guests on February 14, 1965. He truly degenerated. Who paid his living expenses in a five-story brownstone with servants and a chef?
COULD BE SHE IS CARING FOR HER THREE CHILDREN WITH THE CHICKEN POX, COULD BE SHE IS ATTENDING A FAMILY GATHERING...... GET IT BITCH....GALILEOCAN YOUR HEART AND MINED ARE EVILL
WML discovered Woody Allen for the panel way back in 1963 when he was still fairly owlish. Arlene was not too far from the mark to say he was the funniest comedian of that time. Cute, too, in that nerdy sort of way when he was young. Who suspected in 1965 that he would turn into a major industry making movies clear into his Seventies?? The only reason I remember Pamela Mason's misguided 1966 appearance on the panel is that Woody Allen was the mystery guest -- and that is the funniest Woody Allen appearance on WML. Stay tuned
Yes, of course there's such a thing as "Jewish humor". That said, the comment you were replying to from Mark Pope was filled with coded anti-semitism, so I've deleted it. (I didn't actually see it until just now, even though he left the comment months ago!)
I figured that. I just thought you'd like a notification. In case you're interested, there are more of his catty remarks down below on this video. I'm sure it's difficult to monitor YT comments though.
I appreciate the notification, yes-- thank you, Stephanie! UA-cam just revamped the notifications in a way which makes it even harder to stay on top of the comments being left (thank you, UA-cam!) A lot of why I'm able to keep the comments pretty safe and clean is because of viewers like you helping to draw my attention to things that need to be deleted! Thanks again. :)
Six times, three of which are not yet posted. Here are the first three: ua-cam.com/video/aw90sezjgCI/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/sARBgWH0ldA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/iL5FlybZ5U0/v-deo.html
Enought libeling Dorothy. She is dead and can't defend herself. Frankly, she pulled more rabbits out of hats on this show than anyone. Her worst show is Arlene's best show.Why are commenters on these WML shows always so "astute" at picking up on Dorothy's every word to criticize her, though often disguised in the name of pity, but always so deaf on other panelists' and celebrity challengers' obvious character issues. I dare say there is more evidence against Woody Allen than against Dorothy, yet comments for the 6 episodes of WML with him as the challenger or the ones with him as a panelist have nary a speculation on the subject of child molestation. Arlene Francis was hardly the mainstream star actress they make her out to be. Her comment that Woody is funnier than anyone is no surprise. He is jewish and her husband is jewish, and a small time wannabe actor/producer, and no doubt he told her how funny Woody is. Jews don't think gentiles are funny cause they recently made and appeared in droves in a documentary movie to tell us so. The comments for the shows with Woody Allen never allude to the future accusations of child molestation. Anyone who would marry their partner's adoptive child has major, major issues with sexual attraction to say the least. A recent survey shows 4 out of 5 convicted child molesters think Woody is guilty. They should know.
The two situations are not comparable. No one writes comments disputing Allen's conduct or its inappropriateness. There is also nothing in his appearances from this era on this show that gives evidence for or disputes what happened many years later. With Dorothy, whose death was due to substance abuse, there is ample evidence for those not in denial, right in these videos, of her struggles. But conspiracy theorists, such as those who post anti-Semitic diatribes in the comments here, deny what is readily apparent both on screen and the reasons for some of her absences, deny the evidence of the substance abuse because they deny that this was how she died, and once the facts are dismissed out of hand, they offer alternative non-fact based theories for her death.
@@44beanie If you're talking about Woody Allen, I don't know him. If you're talking about Allen Ludden, well thankfully, you'd be the only one on the PLANET who feels THAT way!
Sorry guys for the late reply but I do not know anything about mystery guest of this episode, Mr. Woody Allen and I do not want to know either. I am not interested in him. And I do not want to know about Miss Dorothy's illness. Could we please give her some space now? She was dead for long times. Whatever was her problems or whatever happened with her were long gone and mostly forgotten. Please guys let's enjoy the show for the show's sake. Thanks.
Fifty years ago I caught every new movie Woody turned out. Sleeper made us all fans for life until that SOB took his wife's daughter. That was the end for me.
@tinwoods Good question. I guess knowing how he treated his wife by sleeping with her daughter and then how her daughter treated her has eviscerated the pleasure I used to get from his work. I see him acting in Sleeper and he's not funny now that I know what a jerk he is.
@sandrageorge3488 No, he didn't. They never lived in the same house together either. He was never a parental figure. Mia Farrow is a liar, and she was sleeping with Sinatra while dating Allen. Side note- Woody is still married to the gal in question. They've been married for almost 30 yrs now. And, I say, good for them. And Woody is a genius. We should be proud of him as Americans! I can't phantom the smallish minds of some.
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Allen Ludden, Sonny Allen, Woody Allen, Steve Allen... there sure were a lot of Allens on the panelists' minds tonight, haha!
Dorothy Kilg-allen too
Don't forget the mention of Allan Sherman
Fred allen
The whale trainer, Sonny Allen, founded IMATA (International Marine Animal Trainers' Association) It's mission: dedicated to advancing the humane care and handling of marine animals by fostering communication between professionals that serve marine animal science through training, public display, research, husbandry, conservation, and education. He passed away in 1997.
+D Travolta
Your brother was so young and handsome and dressed so hip for his appearance. I would have guessed that he was one of those teen idol singers that Philadelphia produced so much of, the kind that Dick Clark introduced on American Bandstand. But he had a much more far-reaching purpose in his life.
And as a "Star Trek" fan, I can't help but wonder what he thought of "Star Trek IV" and the idea that life on Earth depended upon the survival of humpback whales.
@@loissimmons6558 Hi Lois, Sonny did sing on the Street Corners in Philly 🎼 He knew Bobby Rydell and Frankie Avalon 🎶 He was very meticulous about the way he dressed, your right about that!! I miss jitterbugging with him😢 I miss him very much 💖😢 Thanks for your comment 🥰
I have an IMATA shirt. He loved his whales 🐳 🐳 and all sea creatures 💖
@@dokey347 As a fellow native of the City of Brotherly Love, I loved hearing Sonny's Philly accent! What neighborhood did you and he grow up in?
Look at the way Arlene's necklace just sparkles ✨ even in black & white
I have a vague memory of the Philly Aquarium. I guess my Mom and I did'n't go often before I entered the service in '65.
They dress real nice back then the 60s😊😊
So many Allens.
I liked that they spent some time talking about the whales. This must have been around the time when perceptions were changing from the frightening monster of Moby Dick to the gentle giant of today.
Hey I’m #200 to like this wonderful show! Thanks for uploading these episodes... just love them!
When the first contestant said she was ORIGINALLY from Massachusetts, Bennett would have picked up on that right away. I surprised no one else did.
Maybe, but the show is always more pleasant and enjoyable when he is away for one reason or another.
@@Walterwhiterocks I disagree.
Imagine a time when Woody Allen *wasn't* known for films! He was a very funny standup--I still listen to his album. Wish he made more than one. He was also a pretty funny writer (as in, books).
Reluctant Dragon
I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard him answer "no" to the question of "Are you primarily known for your work in films?" It *is* hard to imagine now!
I remember when he was only known for stand-up very well, in the early 1960's. His stock character was the nebbishy Jewish guy who couldn't succeed with women; who always got picked last for the baseball team in school; was socially gauche and physically clumsy. "What's New Pussycat" showcases this character. He's still there in "Play It Again, Sam" and "Take The Money And Run." "Annie Hall" in 1977 was the first time the Allen film persona successfully pursued and won women.
I had absolutely idea he was a nightclub entertainer.
This doesn't say he wasn't known for his films, only not primarily.
I'm guessing nightclub entertainer is just another way of describing a stand-up comedian. Though nightclub entertainer is much more broad since that can include singers.
Second game. Who says WML is not educational. Interesting questions and answers abut our friends of the deep
soulierinvestments
Interesting answers by the contestant, yes, but still highly uninformed ones by John!
Woody had just the past summer mad his movie debut in "What's New Pussycat?"
Knowing what Woody has said about what was done to his script, "mad" is an appropriate typo.
What's My Line? Ha!
Joe Postove And now you can never correct it!
What's My Line? gee wiz! :>(
@@WhatsMyLine Co-rect!
Funny that they guessed two different Allens/Alans for Woody Allen.
Martin and Arlene's "Mrs. Dally" closed after six weeks, just before Dorothy's death.
I had no idea Woody Allen was already famous in the 1960s.
He was a comedy writer for Your Show of Shows among others.
@@lanef58 , not exactly. He wrote for Sid Caesar's specials after Caesar's Hour (and long after Your Show of Shows) went off the air. His main TV writing credit was for the Jack Parr version of The Tonight Show. He wrote humorous magazine pieces for The New Yorker and Playboy. Before his movie career, he was probably best known as a stand-up comic in night clubs and guest appearances on television, and on lp records.
@kevinwachs5905 And as a playwright. I believe he had completed Don't Go Near the Water(or was it Don't Drink the Water?) and Play it Again Sam, in the 1960s. Play it Again, Sam was made into a hilarious film. He wrote the screenplay and starred in it. Also, it featured a young Diane Keaton. Woody didn't direct it, but that would soon change in his subsequent film projects.
He's a brilliant, prolific filmmaker.
There's a lot of Allen's in this episode.
And in the Mystery Guest guesses!
You can never have too many Allen’s.
......and Marty Allen's backstage!!
@bigoldinosaur. I'm surprised that Allen Ludden didn't mention that. If Bennett Cerf had been there, he would have said "we're surrounded by Allens today! There are 3 of them. Allen Ludden, Sonny Allen, and Woody Allen."
@@AllenFreemanMediaGuru Lol. Good one. 👍😄
Dorothy was very "happy" tonight. :) First she introduced Allen Ludden as the host of "Passport" instead of "Password" 0:53 and last she said good night to "Allen Lullen (!?)"? :) 24:33
+Johan Bengtsson Her health and general situation were in peril and she died on November 8, 1965.
freeze at 8:39 -- Dorothy's befuddled expression is priceless.
I had the pleasure to see the film debut of Woody Allen in "What's New, Pussycat?". A cute, and totally-1960's comedy. The film was loaded with sex symbols of the 1960's, including Romy Schneider, Capucine, Paula Prentiss, Ursula Andress, etc.
0:22- "Brought to you by----- KOOL! Come all the way up to KOOL FILTER KINGS......and taste the most refreshing coolness you can get in ANY cigarette!"
She said: he is the funniest man in the world Woody Allen. And he was just beginning! So, he was in the pannel, I would like to see that.
it was a year or so earlier -- make sure to check out his intro of Arlene
Allen didn't seem to like it that much, though. He admired its director, British-born Clive Donner (it was his first Hollywood film), but he hated how the studio (United Artists Corporation), mishandled the script he wrote for them. He said it would have been a much better film, had he directed it. After that, he made sure he had complete control on all of his future projects.
"What's New, Pussycat?" was the beginning of Woody Allen's link with United Artists Corporation. Here is a list of all the films he made from 1965 to 1980 (unless otherwise stated, all of his films during this period were for UA):
"What's New, Pussycat?" (1965; Writer/Actor)
"What's Up, Tiger Lilly?" (1966; Director/Himself/Dub Actor/Associate Producer; American International Pictures)
"Casino Royale" (1967; Actor; Columbia Pictures)
"Take the Money and Run" (1969; Director/Writer/Actor; Cinerama Releasing/ABC Pictures)
"Men of Crisis: The Harvey Wallinger Story" (1971; Director/Writer/Actor; PBS)
"Bananas" (1971; Director/Writer/Actor)
"Play it Again, Sam" (1972; Writer/Actor; Paramount)
"Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* *But Were Afraid to Ask" (1972; Director/Writer/Actor)
"Sleeper" (1973; Director/Composer/Writer/Actor)
"Love and Death" (1975; Director/Writer/Actor)
"The Front" (1976; Actor; Columbia Pictures)
"Annie Hall" (1977; Director/Writer/Actor)
"Interiors" (1978; Director/Writer)
"Manhattan" (1979; Director/Writer/Actor)
"Stardust Memories" (1980; Director/Writer/Actor)
Of all those, "Annie Hall" was my favorite.
***** I think I've seen all but three of those. I like to think of "What's Up, Tiger Lily?" as the original MST3K.
I’ll always know Woody Allen as a comedian
This was my brother 💖😢 He passed away 🙏🏻😢
It is always a pleasure to read posts from family members and/or close friends. Your brother was a joy to watch in this episode, and his accomplishments are to be commended. Thank you!!
I have a lot of respect for him and everything he did for the welfare of animals.
@@rmelin13231 Thank you so much ❤
@@RT-qd8yl. Thank you ❤
*_INSPECTS DICE_*
*_WHALE TRAINER_*
Welcome back, Gary!
I've not been away, but thanks. . .
The welcome back was intended, I think, to be an expression of delight at seeing the posting of videos resume after a day of no posting. A sentiment which I share.
romeman01 As I explained to Joe elsewhere before responding to him here, there *was* a video yesterday: the show from the preceding week with Muhammad Ali, as per schedule. There were no email notifications for it due to YT technical issues, that's all. I haven't been anywhere, and the schedule hasn't been interrupted. But again, thanks.
Now that you mention it, I see that there IS the video from the preceding week on UA-cam in your name. But UA-cam is showing it as having been posted two weeks ago. (Perhaps you also explained the reason for this elsewhere, if so, sorry about my inability to keep up with things.) I consult no e-mails. I rely upon searching UA-cam for What's My Line?, ordered according to the most recent videos, and I kept looking and looking yesterday and also today for a posting bearing yesterday's date. I even opened your channel and clicked the videos link, but again, there was the video of two days ago and the video of today but none for yesterday (that is why I concluded there was no posting). I did not know enough to look two weeks ago.
romeman01 Forgive me for trying to weasel out of explaining, I just grew tired of retyping the explanation after the 4th time. :)
What happened was that Tuesday's video was made visible to the public due a YT glitch, nothing I did (all the videos are uploaded in advance and scheduled to post automatically or I'd never be posting regularly-- I'm far too unreliable for that.) When I noticed the glitch, I changed the status of the video back to "private", but as far as YT is concerned, the video was first posted two weeks ago, even though it was invisible to the public for all but a few hours. The only way I could have addressed this would have been to delete the video and re-upload it because-- as I would assume you're well aware, since you've posted a good deal here yourself-- UA-cam is a pain in the butt!
can't even watch anything about or with him. BARF
In all of his many appearances as guest panelist, the round with the whale trainer was Martin Gabel's worst, at least so far. In his first try, he barely survived a "no" when he asked if the guest did something in the athletic field when John said physical dexterity was necessary. He then followed up with whether the guest was connected with sports, which it is hard to imagine he would have been since he was not involved with athletics, and of course, he received a no. Then when Arlene made it clear that porpoise was not the right animal, Martin asked about a porpoise, Martin was generally a good player, and I far prefer his intros of John to Bennett's, but everyone has an off night sometime.
Just wondering if anyone knows the sponsor of this episode that wasn't shown in the introduction?
Kool cigarettes, I think.
agreat talent mr Woody Allen now & then :-)
He was great as MG..
@@dcasper8514 well rather a rare ty...
John Daly was in the top 5 of smartest people in the WORLD,his vocabulary was twice that of an average person.
please
There must have been a cigarette sponsor. Hence the cut.
Kool Cigarettes was one of the sponsors during Fall 1965.
Vahan Nisanian $
c 1:20 cute and rare two-shot of Dorothy and Allen Ludden. Did she borrow her dress from Betty Rubble?
lol Dorothy high as a kite
Nice to see Woody Allen again. Been a long time since he last appeared on this show.
And no, he is not related to Sonny Allen, the 2nd contestant.
"Allen/Allan" seems to be the name tonight. Allen Ludden was in the panel, Sonny Allen was a contestant, Woody Allen was the MG, Martin Gabel thought it was Steve Allen and Dorothy guessed Allan Sherman!
@@Beson-SE And at 21:25 Dorothy mentions Alan King in a side comment.
Touché!
So there was a time when Woody was NOT known for films !!!
Or pedophilia
If the question of Arlene's had just been answered straightforwardly (a whale is not a fish at all, it is a mammal) no hilarity would have ensued and no clue given. John dropped the ball on this one.
I'm just grateful that he considered a whale to be an animal. . .
What is it. Do we think John Daly is maybe a bit smarter than he actually is?
Joe Postove I don't think so. A person can be highly intelligent and still very weak on certain subjects. John's verbal gymnastics alone (among many other observable qualities) indicate how intelligent he was. And let's not forget that everyone else on the show makes the same mistakes-- considering "animal" to mean the same thing as "mammal"; considering plants to have never been alive; not considering human beings to be animals. . . the same mistakes, over and over again. Unless you want to extend the verdict of "can't be all that smart if he could get things this basic wrong" to everyone who's ever been on WML-- including the contestants, who never object either-- I don't think this should be taken as a signal that anyone is overestimating John's intelligence. It remains surprising to me every time it happens, predictable as it is, because I consider him otherwise so clearly so very intelligent, and almost always spot-on in his moderating of the answers..
What's My Line? I understand your point, Gary, and I don't really mean to make a generic point about John's intelligence (I think I formed it more as a question, as Alex would like) but I'm sure you've spoken with people or read books where such an obvious piece of information is wrong that one might call into question the general soundness of all of the other information you may get from that source. As for John Daly, that is almost certainly not true, but it is a little worrisome when he misses an easy one. Although I know PHD's who are genius' but bad on dates, and I'm a college dropout and pretty good one dates, so I may be a bit unfair sometimes.
Joe Postove What also puzzles me is that there's never any reference to viewers writing in about these obvious, basic mistakes about biology. At some point in the 1950s there was a show where John gave an incorrect answer on a pretty technical point concerning worms, and addressed the error, which was pointed out in viewer mail, on the next show. But no one in the audience ever wrote in to correct the obvious, not-technical errors made over and over again? How about the time John ruled lobsters to be fish? They must have gotten mail on these things. . . but never a mention of it on air after the worm contretemps.
Martin Gabel is here as well.
1-29-2023.
FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are two!
Woody Allen Allen Ludden.
One Allen is dead. One Allen is old.
Woody Allen sure didn't seem like "the funniest man in the world"' on this show.
Sadly it appears Dorothy is "off" in this episode. Could it be that she's drinking again, and that it ultimately contributed to her demise a few weeks later. I feel sad....it's like knowing we're going to lose Dorothy soon.... :-(
Dorothy is turning in her grave thinking with a friend like you who needs enemies.
No, she didn't have a drinking problem. None of her 700 episodes indicates that she had one. Evidence is that she was the only breadwinner in her household, and her husband drank too much without any doubt. You can see his deterioration between his panel gig on February 3, 1957 and video of him as one of four mystery guests on February 14, 1965. He truly degenerated. Who paid his living expenses in a five-story brownstone with servants and a chef?
COULD BE SHE IS CARING FOR HER THREE CHILDREN WITH THE CHICKEN POX, COULD BE SHE IS ATTENDING A FAMILY GATHERING...... GET IT BITCH....GALILEOCAN YOUR HEART AND MINED ARE EVILL
@@wendellbaker6573 some people are in denial. Anyone watching here in the early episodes of 1964 can reach their own conclusions.
@Wendell Baker Dorthy missed more episodes than all other regular panelists some with the strangest of excuses.
WML discovered Woody Allen for the panel way back in 1963 when he was still fairly owlish. Arlene was not too far from the mark to say he was the funniest comedian of that time. Cute, too, in that nerdy sort of way when he was young. Who suspected in 1965 that he would turn into a major industry making movies clear into his Seventies??
The only reason I remember Pamela Mason's misguided 1966 appearance on the panel is that Woody Allen was the mystery guest -- and that is the funniest Woody Allen appearance on WML. Stay tuned
Didn't know there was a such thing called 'Jewish humor'.
Yes, of course there's such a thing as "Jewish humor". That said, the comment you were replying to from Mark Pope was filled with coded anti-semitism, so I've deleted it. (I didn't actually see it until just now, even though he left the comment months ago!)
I figured that. I just thought you'd like a notification. In case you're interested, there are more of his catty remarks down below on this video. I'm sure it's difficult to monitor YT comments though.
I appreciate the notification, yes-- thank you, Stephanie! UA-cam just revamped the notifications in a way which makes it even harder to stay on top of the comments being left (thank you, UA-cam!) A lot of why I'm able to keep the comments pretty safe and clean is because of viewers like you helping to draw my attention to things that need to be deleted! Thanks again. :)
+soulierinvestments
Is that 1966 Mystery Guest appearance the one in which he answers one of the questions with "Try me, toots!"?
I still think Bananas is one of the funniest movies ever made😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Personally, I prefer Sleepers and Love and Death from that period. But, Bananas was still really funny. Howard Cosell in a great cameo. 🤣
@@waynej2608 I like in the camp in Cuba the hot revolutionary got bite by the snake on her boob.....Snake Bite😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Dorothy is on something in this episode.
2 months before she was murdered
What makes you think that?
@@sandrageorge3488 Seriously? You didn't know that?
How many times was Woody Allen a guest panelist? I don't remember seeing those episodes. I'll have to go back and watch them.
Six times, three of which are not yet posted. Here are the first three:
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thanks!
I like how Dorothy got here "Fakie-poo" comment in about the dice. Remember the days of "insy-poo?
How old was Ida? She looked 50 and acted 80!
Hey, Ida says that's an unwarranted comment. She's well past her 80s today and can shake her leg better than you!
wait, Arlene said training them, they said no. It was training whales.
She said training with regard to porpoises.
@@perrybarton They seem to be at 'cross porpoises'.
woody Allen one of the coolest actor -director in Hollywood
not quite
@@kristabrewer9363 yes quite
If you were actually truly wise - you'd have left off the "Hollywood".
@@Polo-po Nice. 👍
Still remember when WA was a panelist ... Horrible
The worst..
Dorothy geusses every single celebrity guest
I think the whale guy could use a meal.
I can't stand Woody Allen. 😖
Enought libeling Dorothy. She is dead and can't defend herself. Frankly, she pulled more rabbits out of hats on this show than anyone. Her worst show is Arlene's best show.Why are commenters on these WML shows always so "astute" at picking up on Dorothy's every word to criticize her, though often disguised in the name of pity, but always so deaf on other panelists' and celebrity challengers' obvious character issues. I dare say there is more evidence against Woody Allen than against Dorothy, yet comments for the 6 episodes of WML with him as the challenger or the ones with him as a panelist have nary a speculation on the subject of child molestation.
Arlene Francis was hardly the mainstream star actress they make her out to be. Her comment that Woody is funnier than anyone is no surprise. He is jewish and her husband is jewish, and a small time wannabe actor/producer, and no doubt he told her how funny Woody is. Jews don't think gentiles are funny cause they recently made and appeared in droves in a documentary movie to tell us so. The comments for the shows with Woody Allen never allude to the future accusations of child molestation. Anyone who would marry their partner's adoptive child has major, major issues with sexual attraction to say the least. A recent survey shows 4 out of 5 convicted child molesters think Woody is guilty. They should know.
Allen is a creep.
The two situations are not comparable. No one writes comments disputing Allen's conduct or its inappropriateness. There is also nothing in his appearances from this era on this show that gives evidence for or disputes what happened many years later. With Dorothy, whose death was due to substance abuse, there is ample evidence for those not in denial, right in these videos, of her struggles. But conspiracy theorists, such as those who post anti-Semitic diatribes in the comments here, deny what is readily apparent both on screen and the reasons for some of her absences, deny the evidence of the substance abuse because they deny that this was how she died, and once the facts are dismissed out of hand, they offer alternative non-fact based theories for her death.
@@44beanie If you're talking about Woody Allen, I don't know him. If you're talking about Allen Ludden, well thankfully, you'd be the only one on the PLANET who feels THAT way!
Sorry guys for the late reply but I do not know anything about mystery guest of this episode, Mr. Woody Allen and I do not want to know either. I am not interested in him. And I do not want to know about Miss Dorothy's illness. Could we please give her some space now? She was dead for long times. Whatever was her problems or whatever happened with her were long gone and mostly forgotten. Please guys let's enjoy the show for the show's sake. Thanks.
It's amazing how often the fish/marine mammal throws them. It seems so basic now.
dates are wrong Dorothy Kilgallen died july 11 1965
Dorothy Mae Kilgallen (July 3, 1913 - November 8, 1965)
Wow. didn't know that.
@@christopherlowe4264 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Kilgallen
UM, Dorothy died in November!
Dorothy died on November 8, 1965.
Fifty years ago I caught every new movie Woody turned out. Sleeper made us all fans for life until that SOB took his wife's daughter. That was the end for me.
@tinwoods Good question. I guess knowing how he treated his wife by sleeping with her daughter and then how her daughter treated her has eviscerated the pleasure I used to get from his work. I see him acting in Sleeper and he's not funny now that I know what a jerk he is.
I feel the same way. He helped raise that child.
@sandrageorge3488 No, he didn't. They never lived in the same house together either. He was never a parental figure. Mia Farrow is a liar, and she was sleeping with Sinatra while dating Allen.
Side note- Woody is still married to the gal in question. They've been married for almost 30 yrs now. And, I say, good for them.
And Woody is a genius. We should be proud of him as Americans!
I can't phantom the smallish minds of some.
francis can not shut her mouth
Woody Allen liked little girls total prevert
funny but cant stand woody allen he should be in jail and as nuch as i likedmia farrow in peytonplace she was absolutely outof her mind too