What's My Line? - Gene Kelly; Louis Jourdan [panel] (Dec 27, 1964)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- MYSTERY GUEST: Gene Kelly
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Louis Jourdan, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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Noel Levine the shower curtain guy ended up as CEO of Associated Products & at one time owned the biggest shower curtain company in the industry. He became a very wealthy philanthropist & recently died at the age of 95 in 2016. Amazing.
Wonderful! American dream come true
Interesting
@@dinahbrown902 I research many of these people if I think there’s a chance they could still be alive. A few of them are. Very few. Some others became crazy rich like the guy who invented the Frisbee & was became WhamO Toy company.
@@parkzed3855 Oh yes I WhamO😊. What you do is very interesting, thanks
@@parkzed3855 That's right, Mr. "Spud" Melin.
I’m sorry that Gene Kelly left so fast. I would have liked to hear more about him.
Right??? He bolted out of there lmao
Gene Kelly had such a charming smile.
I love this show, love these people and everything about it. The fact that men raised from their chair to greet women.
I love when Arlene Francis says "Dorothy must have bought more than one fellow one tie". It's funny yet respectful.
I've watched a lot of these shows and the regret I have is that they never had Marilyn Monroe, Grace Kelly, and both the Hepburns Audrey and Katharine.
My favorite guests are Tony Curtis, Jimmy Cagney, Elizabeth Ashley, Natalie Wood and Judy Garland.
I think we all like it so much because it wouldn't be possible today.
I really like Wally Cox.
@@mykkie100 I always liked Wally, but he was a terrible panelist.
Those you mentioned would have been wonderful to see. And with social media reveals so much about people that nothing is private.
This show is just wonderful ❤️ watching!
Great team of people, who all worked so well together ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Gene Kelly & Louis Jordan on the same show! Too much. Wowww.♥
@Aritosthenes purrrrr..... 💕
@Aritosthenes im sorry what?
*Jourdan
Gene was so good looking
And the shower curtain guy!
Gene Kelly did this on my birthday! I love Gene Kelly❤️
Louis Jourdan also appeared on ‘What’s My Line?’ on my birthday that year. :-)
Why don't you marry him?
@@Menstral haha if I was alive in the 1950s, I’d be beyond lucky if I did
Gene looked great till the very end & even in Xanadu on those roller skates at 68 he was still able to outshine with his agility. I imagine Olivia Newton-John enjoyed working with him. I loved it when he worked with Judy Garland, they were wonderful together.
Dec. 27, 1964. Two days after I got my first bike so that's a happy thought. But, also two days after Dorothy's last Christmas, obviously a sad thought.
😔
Part of the charm of this show, was that it was broadcasted on Sunday evening- (a very special time of the week).
Even though it was a school night, my parents always let me stay up to watch WML.
RIP Noel Levine passed away on (May 9, 2016)(aged 95) you will truly be missed and my prayers go out to you and your family. He was a Philanthropist, Photography Collector,Investor.
Reminds me of a dapper Ralph Nader
Highly entertaining episode, especially with all those one-liners from Arlene and Dorothy! And they compliment each other nicely in the fashion department; I wonder what colours their lamé type outfits were.
Probably nicotine yellow 😂
One of the great reasons I tune in is the submerged tension between panelists, sometimes provoked by John Daly, moderator. It raises the stakes! Yet...
Each are classy, intelligent New Yorkers keeping face, determined to demonstrate his or her ability.
They may want to hire a hitman, but they bounce back better than ever refreshed, ready for the next contestant. I love them for that!
I hate it when the MG just ducks out immediately after the game. Especially Gene Kelly!
Naturally, Louis Jourdan knew it was Gene Kelly, because they were very good friends.
And the two of them had one other thing in common: They both worked with the always-lovely Leslie Caron in "Gigi" and "An American in Paris" respectively.
Thanks for explaining that- (I wondered how Louis got the answer).
She was stunning!
I think Dorothy's reaction to Arlene's flirting is funnier than Arlene's actual misbehaving!
Gene Kelly was a big Francophile who spoke the language and spent much time in Paris etc. I'm so glad Jourdan got to guess right on one.
Thank you for showing that wonderful time
"Where's the coffee table in your house?"
"I keep it in a closet."
I think that it's about time that coffee tables came out of the closet!
I wonder why Gene Kelly spilt before we could say goodbye? There were no more shows that night, for heaven's sake!
Joe Postove But the behind the scenes workers on the show were unionized. What they said was how the show went.
Maybe he had a flight to catch
Glen Jeffrey Kaufman later attended Brown University, got married and had/has two daughters. I obtained this info from the obituary article of his mother, Rita Kaufman, who passed away in 2019.
Arlene rescued Louis Jourdan very decent and kind.
Louis Jourdan was gorgeous - and such a great actor!
Suave and debonair
Honest, now. How many of you thought a steeplejack rode horses? A steeplejack is a craftsman who scales buildings, chimneys and church steeples to carry out repairs or maintenance.
I actually had no idea what a steeplejack was, but I learned something! :)
Steeplejack is not to be confused with steeplechase, which is a horse race. There had been steeplejacks on the show before this one.
romeman01
I do remember that there were people in similar professions (including one rather impressive elderly man) on WML before, but I did not remember the word "steeplejack" being used to describe them.
@@romeman01 Good point!
I saw Louis Jordan in Gigi and Three Coins In the Fountain. What a charming personality! They don't make them like that anymore. Too bad!
My own favourite with him in is the exquisite Letter from an Unknown Woman
@@mizofan mine too. This movie even shows his acting talent which often got overshadowed by his extreme good looks. I even like his short cameo in Paradine case directed by Alfred Hitchcock costarring Gregory Peck.
*Jourdan
👍👍👍 He was classic and elegant.
I absolutely love Gene Kelley!!!
@MsDana *Kelly 🙂
Me too ❤
In that year I was 13 and we had moved to NH all my friends wore jeans to play in my mother was horrified that I wanted ‘dungarees’ truly a different era
And that's the end of 1964. On to 1965.
The 1965 era of "What's My Line?". It began on a very, very happy note...
...But then it ended on a very, very sad note.
Yes, Vahan, I do shudder a bit watching Dorothy in what amounts to us as death throes. It's weird, like foretelling the future as we watch her in the last of her magnificence.
Yes.
Painful to think that this was Dorothy's last Christmas..
Yes. It did 😔
LOL Arlene at 7:15 Very flirtatious yet charming.
Arlene was a big admirer of Louis Jourdan. When he appeared as a guest on the show, she was in ecstasy, drooling all over him.
Arlene also came the closest to pronouncing his name correctly. It is (with a French inflection of course) pronounced Jour-don, not Jour-dan.
@@mikejschin His questions were out of left field, he knew it and felt awkward, she graciously (and flirtatiously) saved the moment. :)
@@MOGGS1942 So am I. :)
@@MOGGS1942 Louis Jourdan loved that too.
Arlene always looks straight at the camera and talks to the audience when she is doing her beginning or the end which they don’t all do.
Yes, but look at how this is done. There are two cameras used for the introductions. The first one, which is at an angle to the panel desk, follows the panel member from the entrance to their position in front of their chair. They wait for the second camera, which is perpendicular to the panel desk, to make their introduction, looking straight into that camera. Louis Jourdan, who is not used to the procedure, starts his introduction while looking straight into the first camera. Then the second camera takes over and Jourdan alertly turns and faces that camera to complete his introduction.
Always (Have) Been a HUGE Fan of the Talented, Multifaceted Jourdan..
🎨
Good looking, Terrible panelist
I love how Arlene flirts with Louis Jourdan! She gets dreamy eyed when he speaks and when he asks whether the product can be found in the bedroom, she asks him I guess you don't want to say what you were thinking of!! LOL
Dorothy finally hit on one of her weirdo, take a chance questions with the "have I ever bought you a tie" for Gene Kelly. I'll bet by the time she was 50, like most women, she had probably bought thousands of ties.
But for different men?
She only lived to be 52 and was married to her husband for 15 years. It's not likely she would have bought too many men a tie.
@@angelcuttill4300 They had somewhat of an open marriage. Her youngest kid wasn't her husband's.
I cannot get over how wonderfully dressed are the contestants and panelists! Those were the days (though I would not give up my jeans).
I was a little kid during this time, and can tell you things changed by the end of the 60s. It started with the youth (“Don’t trust anyone over 30”) who were sick of the stuffiness and wanted to let it all hang out. Then along came hip huggers, halter tops, fringed jackets, and "all we need is love, love..."
@@rr8960 You got the time line right. While jeans, or dungarees, were worn by laborers, kids, rural dwellers and adolescents, they were not nearly as popular as they have become in our age. Some of the schools I attended at that time would not allow dungarees. Dobie Gilles never wore dungarees while attending class in The Many Lives Of Dobie Gilles. Even Wally, Beavers brother, usually wore Chino slacks, with button down shirts. Young people, like everyone else, were expected to be neat, clean and well groomed. This was the standard in the country even throughout the swinging, free-to-be-you-or-me, late 60s and into the early 70s. Check out any stock footage of Street scenes in NYC, Chicago, and even San Francisco, and folks continued to dress, neatly and decently. And yes, that final shoot out scene at San Francisco's International Airport, in the movie Bullit. With the crowds dressed as they were, was exactly how folks in the late 60s would have looked at any airport.
Denim is not my favourite fabric.
No one could have anticipated that 6 actors who appeared together in the 1948 MGM film "The Three Musketeers" would be future WML MGs and that two others would be future WML guest panelists (a few were both). Besides Gene Kelly, the other future MGs were Van Heflin, Vincent Price, June Allyson, Lana Turner, and Angela Lansbury. The future guest panelists were Gig Young and Keenan Wynn.
Just realized i was watching this on Dec 27....,2018
People spoke and dressed so classy way back when. If only it were still the general consensus.
unfortunately, those days are over :(
This little capsule of entertainment is NOT a measure of what everyone was wearing or how they were talking out in the street.
It's an idyllic contrivance of politeness, etiquette and neatness for televisual entertainment, that's all. We can be nostalgic for PROGRAMMES looking like this, that's fine....but it's not a reflection of society at that time at all.
@@davidsanderson5918 It was common for men not involved in "Blue Collar" trades to wear a jacket and tie.
@@davidsanderson5918 VERY well said. Yes kiddies, the 'gen-pop' have been calling others every 'nasty' word we use today ...just not on TV. People did sleep in the same bed too, Dina...
Be aware that appearances can be deceptive and not authentic.
My only complaint about WML is how short a period they spend withe mystery guest. I think they should have had two regular contestants and then spend the rest of the time with the star. We all would have liked to enjoy them more!
+Barbara Ludena I like the regular contestants, though I will agree that the final one often feels a bit rushed.
agreed
I am not so sure about that. Often the non-mystery guests were more interesting than the MGs.
Gene Kelly. Great singer. Great dancer. Great actor. Great director. Great movies from 1942 to 1952. His later career unfortunately went sour. When his wife died, as a sole surviving parent he decided to work only in Los Angeles. Not one of his films after "Singin in the Rain" was a hit. ["It's Always Fair Weather is too negative to be any real fun. I loved "Hello Dolly! but it lost money for Fox the first time out. I have tried to love "Xanadu" -- and I cannot.] Thank heaven for TV; he had better success with it.
My wife is a big fan of the great Hollywood dancers and she just about refuses to believe that XANADU exists!
Oh yes, there is a Xanadu.
Gene Kelly excelled at an art form that was hugely popular when he began in show biz. Television killed it. By the late 1950s, despite the inventiveness of the movie musical, the audience had been lost to TV and the costs of production were huge and could not be recouped. Like the decline of trains at the same time, the film studios had to stop making musicals. The dancers and musical stars all had their contracts broken, whether Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, Cyd Charisse, and yes, Louis Jourdan. Astaire was old enough that he could turn to dramatic work and dance with Barrie Chase. But Kelly was only in his 40s and there was no more need for movie song and dance men. He never found the same niche or success again. That's show biz, but they don't make great movie musicals like that any more. By the 1970s, with the unanticipated success of the That's Entertainment! series, the public showed that they realized what was missed, even people who were too young at the time to see Kelly in a movie theater.
"Dorothy must've bought more than one fellow a tie." 😄
The way Ms. Kilgallen asked about buying him a tie made me wonder if this was something she only did under rather special circumstances... :)
The minute I saw Louis Jourdan, I thought to myself, "Isn't that the villain from Swamp Thing?" After a Google search, it turns out yes he is!
He even played Dracula
Dorothy's drinking is taking a toll.
Oh, Arlene, you said what I was feeling!
John nearly gave the magician away at the start. He says “Perf ...”
The boy magician was 9 years old when this aired. I was the exact same age at that time. So, if he's still alive he would be at least 66 years old as of today (1/31/2022).
Brilliant gene Kelly best dancer ever
GENE KELLY = Best in Showbusiness
I would argue that a shower curtain definitely has moving parts.
Poor Dorothy, she thought she finally hit a home run with her losing a notebook question...you could sense her excitement...but, swing and a miss!
Gene Kelly was quite a handsome man and just exuded charm... wish he could have stayed a bit to chat.
Gene Kelly was also stronger than an ox, thanks to all those years of dance exercising!
The disappointing part is Dorothy was unavailable when Tony Perkins was the Mystery Guest. So sadly she never got to hear a Yes for her question.
@@shuboy05 she probably wouldn't have asked it to Tony Perkins for whatever reason, just as she didn't ask Casey Stengel if he studied dentistry. She was too clever by half and outsmarted herself.
I think Gene watched Jack Leonard last week. Same voice!
Recorded on November 22, 1964.
Johnny Olson still says "From New York" for pre-taped episodes.
What else did Johnny say?
tmlinmi He originally said "And Now from New York, let's meet our What's My Line panel". In December 1964, it was changed to "And now let's meet our what's my line panel".
***** Presumably so that they would no longer need to do the inexplicable post-editing of the word "live". The whole thing continues to baffle me.
This is my all-time favorite WML? episode. {sigh}
For trivial pursuit, I noticed that Gene Kelly had lint/dust/dandruff on his suit jacket (near his right shoulder).
Just took me back to a time when my dad would give me a quick glance, before I left the house.
Straighten my tie, dust off my shoulders.. even when there was no dust 😄.. and, comment something like,
"There. You like fine, champ."
Maybe he needed his dad with him, before he walked out.
While he would appear in a few notable films, by 1965 Gene Kelly had already established his very note worthy body of work.
The best of his post-1965 films, in my opinion, being "Les demoiselles de Rochefort," although that is more about Catherine Deneuve and Francoise Dorleac and George Chakiris and Jacques Perrin and Danielle Darrieux.
Snoozefest
@@jmccracken1963
The costumes in that movie are absolutely delicious!
Dorothy and that damn address thing again! - lol
Who was the address book guy
@@jessicaphillips4542 Really couldn't say
Oh Bennett, so funny, that last zinger!
Bizarre that Gene Kelly writes the Es in his first name and surname differently.
It's interesting how everyone has perfect teeth!!!
Arlene was allowed to flirt, but Martin Gabel wasn’t.😂
Two good made for TV movies starring Louis Jourdan are "Fear No Evil" and "Ritual of Evil."
There were three other actors I forgot to mention earlier who also starred in a James Bond film (and they were on the Syndicated revival of WML): Roger Moore, Geoffrey Holder, and Patrick MacNee.
Holder just died recently, in case you were unaware.
Chris Barat I knew.
I wonder what Louis Jourdan was famous for. It's too bad that they didn't have enough time for Glen Kaufman to show some of his magic tricks. I was impressed that he was only 9 years old and he was already a professional magician 🎩! I wonder what he's doing now.
Louis starred in Gigi. Yes, I would have liked to see a magic trick.
@@Julia-fo4tk Thank you for letting me know that.
Jourdan also played the master villain in the James Bond film "Octopussy," and a psychotic killer and husband to Doris Day in the thriller "Julie." His suave demeanor made him a believable bad guy.
@@zquark1 Wow! Thank you for that information! 🙂.
Jordan died at 95
“John, maybe we can ask Glenn if he can make you disappear”? 😂😂
Dorothy asked the same "helicopter" question when Bob Hope was on...her and Tony must've been close
So she did have something to do with the outside of the house but they both said no! Isn't a smoke stack or a roof on the outside of a house? (I presume a smokestack is a chimney?)
Hygiene Industries, besides shower curtains, they also make toilet cakes, bathroom refrigerators, toilet pies, and foam. Big company.
+Joe Postove And it would appear Mr. Levine is still with us and still a successful executive.
and portal guns.
I don't think I want to know what a toilet pie or toilet cake is.
@@Mafon2 😜😜😜😜😜😜
There's that d@^^d address book helicopter question again. And she never asked it of Tony Perkins! I love Kelly's response to it, which was spot on.
There is probably a Tony Perkins address book somewhere in the world that will unlock the secrets of Hollywood!
People were so dignified back then.
Louis Jourdan defines French. Only Napoleon and deGaulle out do him in Frenchness. Arlene is so delightfully beside herself
And he was quite a bit handsomer than Napoleon or deGaulle. ;)
soulierinvestments
I believe I'd have to include Maurice Chevalier and MAYBE Yves Montand in that list.
AT 07:30 Arlene was hysterical the way she quasi-flirted with Louis.
@@TheCometHunter that was no "quasi" flirting there.
Napoleon is Italian))
That first contestant who was the steeple jack quite clearly didn’t know who Louis Jordan was; she shook his hand way too fast!
I've watched a lot of these and I still don't know who lost their address book in a helicopter over the Greek islands.
I think it was Tony Perkins
Interesting THIS is the reception that Kelly should've got last time he was on but DIDN'T. At the time it even got me thinking that he'd gone out of favour with the moviegoing public or something. Now I think that other time was just a duff audience.
The previous less than ecstatic reaction may have been because it was a few years after his last really big film hits but (perhaps) just before MGM sold/made available their back catalogue of films to television? So maybe he had fallen out of the public eye a bit at that time, but by 1964 people were more able to see his old films again?
a young louis jordan :)
I had to look up "steeplejack". I thought it had something to do with horse racing.
That was bizarre, given that the ‘steeple’ in ‘steeplechase’ obviously comes from steeples, from when they used to race from church to church across the countryside, rather than its being an idiosyncratic term.
Everyone in the UK knows what a steeplejack is because of Fred Dibnah! ua-cam.com/video/wffv8YeoeeM/v-deo.html
There have been a number of guests on WML that seem to have just disappeared like Glen. At 9 yo and a professional Magician, I would think we would have seen more of him. Anyone at 9 making money from that would certainly improve to be somebody well known later on. Ive noticed a number of guests that seemed to have a niche and talent that would have propelled them forward but there is nothing to be found on them. Any ideas on this?
Attended university went into business had a bunch of kids
Arlene's wheels are always spinning! She said to Louie when he asked if the shower curtain could be found in the bedroom and got a no, that he didn't want to say what he had in mind....Hmmmmmmmmm. What did Arlene have in mind?
It's "Louis," not, "Louie." He's French.
Dorothy is so funny. She tries these obscure, personal references for her questions. They never work!
Occasionally they do.
Funny how?
Arlene is hittin' on Louis...Dorothy."is it squishy?" The shower curtain was a new invention then?
Squashy 😆
Who wouldn’t hit on him? And they just had small bathroom items in mind rather than furnishings - they didn’t ask if the product was medicine cabinets or bathroom suites either.
Mr Jourdan portrayed Count Dracula in a BBC TV 2 part mini series 1977. It is one of the closest to.the book by Abraham Soker. Jourdan is excellent as the Count. Many critics were surprised. He was often dismissed as just a romantic gigolo foil to some beauty in a movie but as he showed in even 'The VIPS' he was a very good actor. He was not just a strong French accent, Arlene!
John seemed to rush through the first guest's questioning. I hope he slows down in future shows.
1:22 was king kong on the empire state building again? arlene is so hilariously witty, 18:08, and 18:50 which is an insight into dorothy's personal "activities".
dorothy and bennett were so good at this - TOO good sometimes. her incredibly specific questions are depressing because it means she almost always knows who it is (but not this time). PS what the heck happened to the chat afterwards? he just cut and ran?
Does Arlene support child labor??? :) She told the boy that it was good he was working at an early age :)
These were different times. People were poor a d enterprising children were encouraged to work. I took a shopping trolley round the neighbourhood to take empties back to the shops and local pub, and earn a commission. It didn’t make me rich but it meant that I could have treats and save a little.
I wonder who Dorothy thougt the mystery guest was when she asked Gene Kelly if he ever had lost his address book in a helicopter over the Greek islands? 19:21
Oops, I was to fast here! Dorothy herself said some seconds later that she had thougt of Anthony Perkins! :-)
Johan Bengtsson
She must have asked this esoteric question of at least a half dozen different mystery guests over the years -- always unsuccessfully. And for whatever reason, when Tony Perkins really *was* the mystery guest, she didn't ask him!
SaveThe TPC Same pattern with Casey Stengel and the "Have you ever studied dentistry" question!
What's My Line? Please, enlighten me on that issue!? :)
Johan Bengtsson Oh-- well, in 1962 Dorothy had a habit of asking virtually every mystery guest for a few weeks whether he'd ever studied dentistry. Somehow she got it in her head that Casey Stengel was going to be a MG and she knew this little tidbit of insider info which, as you've seen, she always liked to indulge in when questioning MGs. But when Stengel finally did appear, she failed to ask the question, just like with Tony Perkins and the address book question!
2nd steeplejack I've seen on the show
Kudos to that steeple chaser.
Steeple jack hon
*_STEEPLEJACK_*
*_MAKES SHOWER CURTAINS_*
*_PROFESSIONAL MAGICIAN_*
John Daly sometimes talks so much he gives clues
The shower curtain man looked like Merv Griffin.
Go to block in the Bellagio. I get those wonderful touch with the weather
One of Dorothy’s worse wigs.
I wonder if Gene Kelly knew if he lingered too long, then the young magician may not make it on the show.
Could we see one trick from the half-pint Houdini ?
Yes. I was hoping that there would have been enough time for 9 years old Glen Kaufman to do some magic 🎩 tricks. They should have had him be the first contestant instead of the last one.
The shower curtain guy's jacket is too short for him.
Should have worn a shower curtain!
All the women screaming for Louis Jourdan! 😅
Died at 95
A time when thing was a lot simpler ...
I hated when they rushed through the final contestant. It wasn’t fair to the contestant they should’ve found something else to do during those last few minutes. Bad production decision.
WML always had an affinity for employed boys. There was President Eisenhower's caddy. There was that boy conductor who may have been younger than this contestant. The two I remember best are Canadian columnist Henry Makow. and a trapeze performer Ray Valentine.
soulierinvestments Yes, but had it been today, their affinity would have been employed girls. :)
SuperWinterborn Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Too much affinitys here. I feel like I'm trapped, suffocating in an affinity steam bath. And I don't mean that in a good way.
Joe Postove Oh, cool down with a squeezed lemon, cold water, and have a walk. No further comments.
SuperWinterborn So you're admitting to having an affinity for affinities?
This crowd can be suave and proper even when talking about what might go on in a bedroom.
Today's adult/children would snicker a little and might not invite me to some important luncheons at the Cosmopolitan Club. 😣