On Abstraction - Zach Tellman

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  • @thomas.moerman
    @thomas.moerman 7 років тому +30

    Phew, intense. One to watch multiple times to make it sink in.

    • @lwouisYT
      @lwouisYT 7 років тому +7

      I wish he would bring code examples in addition to the real world examples. Amusingly, his ideas stayed a bit abstract :p

  • @DillonRedding
    @DillonRedding 4 роки тому +10

    0:14 - Elements of Clojure
    3:16 - I. Two Kinds of Abstractions
    9:05 - II. A Model for Abstractions
    20:10 - III. Consequences of our Model
    31:44 - IV. Systems of Abstraction
    46:26 - Questions

  • @garthgoldwater5256
    @garthgoldwater5256 5 років тому +12

    if you are open in exactly the right way, and in exactly the right mood, this talk slaps with the force of a million suns

    • @TenderBug
      @TenderBug 3 роки тому +3

      Hahaha yes I'm starting to feel the power of that slap while watching for 3rd or 4th time.

  • @lepidoptera9337
    @lepidoptera9337 Рік тому +2

    And none of this helps any of you to write better software. ;-)

  • @hexmedi
    @hexmedi 5 років тому +6

    I was looking for this talk since forever!

  • @CarterColeisInfamous
    @CarterColeisInfamous 7 років тому +5

    22:10 if we are building an AI then we do want to represent the entire world in out programming of the world model

  • @diegonayalazo
    @diegonayalazo 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing. Really useful.

  • @kevanschwitzer8585
    @kevanschwitzer8585 10 місяців тому

    Top tier presentation and thought provoking. Especially for the abstract (no pun) subject, lot of concrete ideas and takeaways. Great presentation!

  • @mpweiher
    @mpweiher 7 років тому +2

    The Knuth quote actually says neither that optimization is bad always, nor 97% of the time.
    See ua-cam.com/video/kHG_zw75SjE/v-deo.html

    • @andrewjarrett132
      @andrewjarrett132 6 років тому +3

      I think that's part of the joke, he’s poking fun at folk wisdom: "...depending on how much of the quote we bothered to read.”

  • @ericanderson3879
    @ericanderson3879 7 років тому +1

    here is where you can access the book: leanpub.com/elementsofclojure

  • @mescellaneous
    @mescellaneous Рік тому

    i am a noob but i was starting to read kripke's naming and necessity and then i found this book on the internet. i was glad to find it referenced kripke's book in the beginning of this book, almost as a motivation.
    for me, the motivation to try to read naming and necessity was actually reading wittgenstein's private language argument, which is a sort of distilled question/problem of knowledge/language.

  • @subucn1
    @subucn1 7 років тому +3

    Could have said "sort of" one more time to get the point across better.

    • @sohamjoshi9527
      @sohamjoshi9527 3 роки тому

      lol i started noticing that after reading this comment.

    • @kevanschwitzer8585
      @kevanschwitzer8585 10 місяців тому

      Hah, I only noticed the times he mentioned "right?".