Minor II-V-I Chord Progression FINALLY Explained

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    The minor 251 chord progression is built from the harmonic minor scale. It uses chord II, V and I from the scale.
    The 1st chord of a minor 251 is always a m7(b5) - also known as a half diminished. The 2nd chord is always a dominant 7 chord, usually with altered extensions such as the flat 9.
    For the last chord (chord I), there are 3 options. A minor 7, a minor major7, or a minor 6. All of these work well and produce different harmonic qualities.
    The minor II-V-I takes a lot of time to master but they are great fun, and are also the building blocks to jazz so will really help you learn jazz.
    If you have any questions, just leave them in the comment box below and I will get straight back to you! :)
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  • @rob1389
    @rob1389 5 років тому +35

    Brilliant tutorial - I've been struggling to get my head around the minor ii-v-i and you've made it understandable. Thanks so much!

  • @calathea8762
    @calathea8762 3 роки тому +4

    I use your videos to prepare for my music entrance exam. Thank you so much for explaining Jazz theory so precisely and understandable without "blablabla". You help me a lot and do an awesome job. :)

  • @xybervid
    @xybervid 3 роки тому +2

    This lesson is excellent. Great information, well presented, well paced.

  • @THXBeats
    @THXBeats 4 роки тому +8

    This was one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  4 роки тому +3

      It's my pleasure! 😀

  • @1950francesca
    @1950francesca 2 роки тому +6

    Wow! Great explanation that finally answered my questions about this progression. Now that I understand the reasons for the chord alterations (ie, that the chords are diatonic to the harmonic minor rather than the natural minor scale)I will never forget to include them. Thanks as always for making a complex concept so clear!

  • @wdennissorrell
    @wdennissorrell 6 років тому +3

    Although your lessons are short they are quite enlightening. I hope at times you will tackle subjects that require more time as you had in the beginning. I do enjoy the shorter format but sometimes a subject can not be explained in such a manner. Thanks for your efforts.

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +3

      Thank you for the feedback! I normally keep my videos on UA-cam relatively short, over at the membership site (www.pianopig.com) is where I create a wider variety length of videos, from 2 mins to 30 mins. The website is not yet launched yet but will be this year. Hopefully you will find the more detailed lessons you are looking for there :)

  • @thismoment57
    @thismoment57 9 місяців тому

    Great explanation for this newbie! Just what I needed. Thank you! 🙏

  • @davidhyatt7550
    @davidhyatt7550 2 місяці тому

    Clear, intelligent, elegant. Thank you again for a perfect lesson.

  • @mjbrehman
    @mjbrehman 3 роки тому +2

    Yet another Wonderful video. Thanks alot

  • @elementrypenguin3116
    @elementrypenguin3116 2 роки тому

    Wow! That is beautiful.

  • @BillHertzing
    @BillHertzing 4 роки тому +7

    1:36 in and you answered my question. Thanks.

  • @emery1057
    @emery1057 3 роки тому +2

    You explained it perfectly!!! I always heard this 2-5-1 in orchestral music all the time and didn't even know it was a minor 2-5-1! The 2 half diminshed chord acts as a suspension chord (the C) that resolves to a 7flat9 (to the B)! Love it!!!

  • @miguel4cuerdas
    @miguel4cuerdas 6 років тому

    Thank you. Fine and clear explanation.

  • @MicSam-ws5fg
    @MicSam-ws5fg 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much, I really needed this.

  • @delirium266
    @delirium266 Рік тому

    Finally, indeed. Nice video

  • @OmegaHilip
    @OmegaHilip 6 років тому +21

    I called this this a 7-3-6 before the video. I get it, tho. Thanks

  • @slartibartfast1268
    @slartibartfast1268 Рік тому

    Thx for illustrating the common inversions

  • @manish_madugula
    @manish_madugula 3 роки тому

    Totally dig it bro, thanks a lot 🙏🏼
    Love from India 🇮🇳

  • @LeonxLeon
    @LeonxLeon 2 роки тому

    Great one. i think it's always cool to start by the i though ! the v ad great tension before resolving to the im7

  • @antoniojoya2254
    @antoniojoya2254 2 роки тому

    Excelente maestro, gracias por este video. Al fin logre entender los 2-5-1 menores. Dios le bendiga, un fuerte abrazo de un Venezolano en Medellin

  • @ProfeARios
    @ProfeARios 5 років тому

    Very nice explanation. Very useful. Thank you for sharing.

  • @jamesgrellier4750
    @jamesgrellier4750 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much for this excellent explanation. I found the part on the inversions at the end particularly useful. I've been struggling to understand this for some time, and now I have a way forwards.

  • @ianpeden2906
    @ianpeden2906 6 років тому +1

    Very good indeed.

  • @takenby_cj
    @takenby_cj 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU

  • @davidreidenberg9941
    @davidreidenberg9941 Місяць тому

    I play the m7b5 followed by the dominant 7th. alt. followed by M7th. The alt. 7th gives you everything you need.

  • @davidkelly1220
    @davidkelly1220 2 роки тому

    Well explained

  • @CharlesFreshly
    @CharlesFreshly 3 роки тому +7

    This is good.. Could you do a video of how the placement sounds within a song?

    • @noimspartacus4357
      @noimspartacus4357 2 роки тому +1

      Could you, please explain what you mean by placement? Sounds interesting.😎

  • @whitelotus187
    @whitelotus187 2 роки тому

    GOLD

  • @ProfeARios
    @ProfeARios 6 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for sharing this info!!!

  • @ronishsharma2989
    @ronishsharma2989 3 роки тому +2

    6:19 sounds so nice

  • @alaincohen4381
    @alaincohen4381 6 років тому

    Thanks a lot for your simplicity and helpfull.

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому

      It's my pleasure Alain :)

  • @KuyaRalph
    @KuyaRalph 4 роки тому

    Question man. When you got back to the 1st chord (Cmaj7).... You mentioned 3 options... But in the last part of your video you used a Dmajor key in the 1st Chord (Cmaj7)... the 2nd tone as a major 9. What is the explanation behind it? Thanks man. took your video seriously and this really helps.

  • @tanyapapoutsakis5213
    @tanyapapoutsakis5213 6 років тому +15

    Please, it is confusing! The flat sign on F note, should it be on A note instead, since A flat is also in the key signature? If there is a reason, please explain!,! Thanks, Tanya

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +14

      I have just spotted that mistake! I assume you mean the Dm7(b5) chord at 1:43? Yes that should be an Ab not an Fb. You can see what it should be just by seeing what my hands are playing. I will try and fix this error - thank you for pointing it out!

  • @theguyfromberlin
    @theguyfromberlin 5 років тому

    Well thanks a lot!

  • @DonHaka
    @DonHaka 3 роки тому

    In songs like "On The Beach" by Chris Rea, you have F minor - Gm7b5 - C7, which is very common in jazzier pop music. So is this a ii-v-i but you start on the tonic? or do you call that something else?

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Рік тому +1

    Wow, great lesson as usual, minor ii v i sounds beautiful, interesting. Probably in part to it not being used and heard as frequently as the major II V I progression.

    • @_4lec
      @_4lec 9 місяців тому

      Tychoooooo

    • @lundsweden
      @lundsweden 9 місяців тому +1

      @@_4lec Haha, sorry I'm not Tycho but yes I pinched his little circle thingy 😅

  • @jdiaz4877
    @jdiaz4877 2 роки тому

    nice!!!

  • @carlenechestnut9423
    @carlenechestnut9423 5 років тому +2

    Very. Good. Tutorial. Well. Explained. Roger.

  • @GeneWeingarten1
    @GeneWeingarten1 6 років тому

    WOW! This is fun

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +1

      I LOVE minor 251s, they are so awesome!

  • @seamanjive
    @seamanjive 3 роки тому

    Nice!

  • @donlessnau3983
    @donlessnau3983 4 роки тому

    Outstanding. Clearly explained without all the stupid bullshit on so many other sites. Thanks very much. Well done.

  • @julliuss7
    @julliuss7 4 роки тому

    Thx for video. So helpful 👍👍👍

  • @rudygomez6996
    @rudygomez6996 3 роки тому

    Thanks yes very helpful :)

  • @SuxessHub
    @SuxessHub 6 років тому

    Awesome

  • @elementsofphysicalreality
    @elementsofphysicalreality 3 роки тому

    Why not write the Cm9 with no root as an Ebmaj7? Also, what scales are you supposed to use on the Cm7 or the Cm6?

  • @shirleypermana8863
    @shirleypermana8863 3 роки тому

    Very helpful 👍👍👍 tq🙏🙏

  • @londontravellers22
    @londontravellers22 3 роки тому

    I dont know music theory, it gives me a headache but I play the piano, singer and songwriter. as long I know which chords and notes to play, I can improvise, so thanks for this.

  • @3liali676
    @3liali676 3 роки тому

    why harmonic minor instead of natural minor ? does the diminished 2 chord make it harder to use

  • @humblemai2211
    @humblemai2211 2 роки тому

    Love you much

  • @Schuggi137
    @Schuggi137 5 років тому +4

    Thanks a lot for your videos, they are much appreciated!
    In this one you simply state that for the tonic you can use either of C-maj7, C-7 and C-6 but don't explain why this is the case. I'm really curious to know why, especially given that the latter two aren't diatonic chords of the C harmonic minor scale.

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  5 років тому +1

      The last chord in the minor 251 can normally be borrowed from various different scales (melodic minor, natural minor, etc.). The diatonic chord would be Cmin(maj7) but this is actually the least common. Try them all and let your ears tell you what you prefer 😀

    • @mr.kilpatrick2991
      @mr.kilpatrick2991 5 років тому +1

      "Try them all and let your ears tell you what you prefer"

    • @bobwrotenstien315
      @bobwrotenstien315 4 роки тому +4

      Voice Leading is the guiding principle. (Resolving tension by moving a half step to the pleasing tone)
      In the V chord you have an Ab/D Tritone to resolve. And a F/B Tritone as well. The Ab/D Tritone is the more powerful one you need to resolve if you are staying in C minor.
      One solution is to expand each note of the Ab/D tritone 1/2 step to G/Eb, and also move the B down a 1/2 step to Bb Now you have a C-7
      Another solution is to move each tone up 1/2 step from Ab/D to A/Eb, and the B moves a 1/2 step to the C. Now you have a C-6
      .
      Either way you landed on a good feeling by moving in half steps

  • @tanyapapoutsakis5213
    @tanyapapoutsakis5213 6 років тому +10

    Hi there, I am sorry, never meant it as mistake. You know your stuff, so eloquently. I saw it as a misprint.
    Thank you for this reply. I have returned to music after 40 years of break.
    I thoroughly enjoy your classes. I keep listening to them again and again. Your explanations are spot on, direct to the subject, not like some, they go round and round to explain and that is cumbersome, confusing at times and tiring.
    If you could please send me, what fingers to use on scales with 5 and 6 sharps or flats, I will be indebted to you.
    Thank you so much for your genuine interest for our learning.
    (By the way, I would like to have your first name to address you, next time.)
    Kindest regards
    Tanya.

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +6

      Thank you that is very kind, it's great to know that my videos are really helping people! That's awesome that your back after 40 years - never to old to play music!
      I haven't yet created a 'PianoPig' sheet for scale fingerings I'm afraid, but I can direct you to a great document that has the fingerings for all 12 major scales... left hand AND right.
      Here it is: www.music-theory.com/download/majorscales.pdf
      Hopefully that has all the information you are looking for :)
      Many Thanks,
      - Simon (for future reference) ;)

  • @phenomenon5490
    @phenomenon5490 2 роки тому

    Great videos. My playing has improved exponentially since watching them. Can the 2, 5, 1 chord progression be played in a natural minor scale?

    • @michaelvarney.
      @michaelvarney. 7 місяців тому

      As far as I understand, in a minor key the tonic would be a minor 7th, so it would be a ii7b5 - v7 - i7, but we want the v to be a major dominant so we have to do a secondary dominant V7/i

  • @LuizHenrique-ek1lb
    @LuizHenrique-ek1lb 6 років тому

    Thankss! ツ

  • @kierankennedy4765
    @kierankennedy4765 2 роки тому

    I noticed I can play deminished on the 2. Now I'm looking for a bass backing track with this rogression

  • @JosephineDeSmet
    @JosephineDeSmet 4 роки тому +1

    if you suck at music theory, is there a tool where you can enter the notes you play and it tells you what key and what chords they are?

    • @tantif1
      @tantif1 3 роки тому

      Try ‘Chord Analyser’......

  • @itsme-jb9eb
    @itsme-jb9eb 4 роки тому +2

    random question: in a chord progression, if the key is minor but the chord is major, do you label it with a capital or lowercase?

    • @carmenrincones7318
      @carmenrincones7318 4 роки тому +1

      Cheers for this, I have been researching "free piano chords sheet music" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Nonason Ranincoln Genie - (do a google search )?
      It is a good exclusive guide for discovering how to play the piano like a pro without the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my mate got great results with it.

    • @metalstream
      @metalstream 2 роки тому +1

      dont trust this, is probably a bot sharing malware

  • @winstonwolfe5733
    @winstonwolfe5733 2 роки тому

    ii V i! The cornerstone of any harmonious standard....

  • @jesielgemaque9376
    @jesielgemaque9376 4 роки тому +2

    Sou brasileiro mas asistu tuas aulas, muito boa !!!!

  • @4251268
    @4251268 4 роки тому +1

    Hey man I have a question here, why do you use the harmonic minor scale to build the diatonic chords instead of using the natural minor scale?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  4 роки тому +1

      That's why it's called the harmonic minor, we tend to build harmony from this minor scale. It just makes sense because it causes the 5 chord to be dominant. If you used the natural minor, the 5 chord would be minor

    • @fortuneunfaded
      @fortuneunfaded 4 роки тому

      PianoPig this is exactly what I was looking for^^ I was playing a minor 251 using the natural minor scale and my ear is like huh this sounds off, sounds better as a dominant but I know the 5 is minor lol 😭 thank you for this clarification 🙏🏽

    • @Montanan
      @Montanan 3 роки тому

      @@Piano_Pig But the key notation in the music sheet shows the B flatted. If this is the harmonic scale shouldn't the B be natural?

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 6 років тому

    A lot of players make sure they are either playing the dimwt scale or auxiliary diminished scale for the 5 chord. I've met more than one good player who don't dig the minor 3rd interval in harmonic minor so they avoid that. Anyway the more choices the better.

    • @robertgloverjr
      @robertgloverjr 5 років тому

      paxwallacejazz the preferred scale to play over a “V7b5” (especially in a Im-iim7b5-V7b9) is an ascending melodic minor scale based on a root that is a half step above the root of the “V”. Example: with a G7b9 (often played rootless as G7b9b13: F,Bb,B,Eb) you play Ab ascending melodic minor scale: G, Ab, Bb, B, Db, Eb, F, G. This is also called the “G altered scale”. It is superior to harmonic minor because it has major 3rd in it, and superior to half/hole diminished scale because it has b13 (the b13 in G is Eb).

    • @teo5146
      @teo5146 4 роки тому

      Please dont call us dimwits for using that scale!

  • @ivornworrell
    @ivornworrell 6 років тому

    *Hello, can the G7(b9) be also called the G7(b2), since A is the 2nd tone in the G octatonic scale?*

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +6

      It wouldn't be technically correct no. The reason for this is because when you say it has the 9th, it implies that it has all of the chord tones below (1, 3, 5, 7). Therefore, if we just said G7(b2), this would imply that the 7th is not present.

    • @ivornworrell
      @ivornworrell 6 років тому

      *Thank you for the **reply.Do** you have any youtube videos that actually demonstrate how to incorporate these minor chords into songs for the benefit of beginners? Also, since minor chords are forrmed on relative minor scales, is it fair to say that minor chords are generally only used in solemn songs in Western music, since the relative minor scale has a sort of Oriental or Egyptian sound to it?Thank you.*

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +1

      I don't yet have a video on how to incorporate a minor II-V-I into songs for beginners yet, but I will add it to my list of UA-cam videos to make! There are actually 3 minor scales and most minor chords are built using a mix of these different minor scale. In the case of a minor II-V-I the chords are predominantly built using the harmonic minor scale rather than the natural minor (aka. relative minor). The idea that minor is sad and major is happy is very generalized. There are tonnes of happy minor songs and also the opposite. But I suppose yes, a huge amount of the solemn songs in Western music do use the minor scales to create that mood. And that oriental / Egyptian sound you talk about comes from the minor 3rd jump in the harmonic minor... you can also get that similar Eastern kind of sound when the flat 9 is present, in scales such as the phrygian scale. I hope this answered your questions :)

  • @brnfrederick
    @brnfrederick 5 років тому

    I was wondering what minor 2 chord to play if the tune is based on the melodic minor scale.

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  5 років тому

      Well, the 2nd chord of the melodic minor scale is just a minor 7. I'm not quite sure if that's what you're asking though?

  • @karenc6801
    @karenc6801 4 роки тому +2

    there's a typo at 1:48, the flat symbol appears to be on F instead of A

  • @goodness2410
    @goodness2410 4 місяці тому +1

    Is it just me but does this chord progession sound like the PianoPig intro?

  • @biskutnation
    @biskutnation 4 роки тому

    I guess to know more about rootless voicing, u have to understand the inversion chord first, correct?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  4 роки тому

      Check out my video on rootless voicings! ua-cam.com/video/w2V_1NkiK3c/v-deo.html

  • @mariopalushi8219
    @mariopalushi8219 4 роки тому

    what software you use to show the piano notes?

  • @sambradshaw7428
    @sambradshaw7428 6 років тому

    why is the II chord a m7b5 when there is no b5 in the second mode of the melodic minor scale?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому

      Because the chord is built from the harmonic minor, not the melodic minor.

  • @deejaymarka
    @deejaymarka 5 років тому

    Hi,
    Is it acceptable to use these 2 type of voicing in 1 song to have varations?

  • @JoergPelzer
    @JoergPelzer 4 роки тому

    for minor we need always to use the harmonic minor scale for it?

  • @humblemai2211
    @humblemai2211 2 роки тому

    Please make more tutorial about jazz Bebop Piano... thanks

  • @ETsonggalaxy
    @ETsonggalaxy 6 років тому +4

    It s the WAY this Piano Pig teacher PRESENTS his skills , and the WAY this guy EXPLAINS EACH STEP so well! Slowly and clearly, so dam good! NOT hard to follow his videos!!! His TIPS are interesting too! UNLIKE other shity teachers who have KNOWLEDGE, they just do NOT know HOW to teach, and they go so fast that they think YOU know as much as they do as a beginner when they are "shit head " WRONG! love this kind of teaching here and his other videos!!! Real good , wonderful teaching! Do more POP , and love songs of the 50 s , 60 s , 70 s , 80 s to present time! Thanks Piano Pig king!

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +1

      Thank you for all the kind comments man - I appreciate the feedback... it's comments like these that give me more motivation to keep making videos :)
      And for future reference.... my name is Simon! But feel free to refer to me as PianoPig, Mr Pig, Dr Trotter or Sir Oinker ;)

    • @ETsonggalaxy
      @ETsonggalaxy 6 років тому +1

      Simon, we need to know HOW Rock N Rock people played their songs like "little Richard" , like the song Lucille." , and how did Jerry Butler did his piano playing in " For YOUR Precious Love. " & HOW did the Five Satins did the piano playing in the song - " in the Still of the Night."! Cannot rest til U give us a complete tutorial! And love to KNOW how the song is played in the Power of Love" by Celine Dion. Do it please ,do!!!! OTHERS cannot do it right by ORIGINAL sounds!

    • @vanzimperial9312
      @vanzimperial9312 6 років тому

      i tottaly agree :3 he explains each step so slowly well and detailed :)

    • @scootin123
      @scootin123 6 років тому

      ETsonggalaxy yea we don' the want to get to familiar . I'll keep it formal with Mr. PIANO PIG. YOUR ANIMATED KEYBOARD REALLY HELPS OUT FOR ME . NOT KNOWING MUCH MUSIC THEORY

  • @paulgrass4855
    @paulgrass4855 4 роки тому

    PianoPig why do we use the Harmonic Minor rather than the other minors for this?

    • @tomasrrcano2298
      @tomasrrcano2298 4 роки тому +1

      Paul Grass because thats how u get the tritone, in this case the B note, if not, the V chord would be minor

  • @melodiscarsbrookmusic
    @melodiscarsbrookmusic 3 роки тому

    But 6:05 is an E flat major 7 not a Cm7? Would you not play C in the bass to make it obvious that it is the root.

  • @DoubleBassX2
    @DoubleBassX2 4 роки тому +8

    1:05

    • @aaronbarber6238
      @aaronbarber6238 4 роки тому +2

      Comment of the year! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @pro75line
      @pro75line 3 роки тому

      @@aaronbarber6238 Aladdin will agree with you

  • @upsjp7980
    @upsjp7980 3 роки тому +1

    6:18
    Sounds like a ii-V-I in a key of E-flat major

    • @arcioko2142
      @arcioko2142 3 роки тому

      definitely not, maybe similar, but definitely doesn’t sound like that

  • @ekekelanapoleon2550
    @ekekelanapoleon2550 5 років тому

    God loves you!!!

  • @ATLS702
    @ATLS702 6 років тому

    So what about changing keys? Would you turn the Minor 1 into an m7b5 and continue stepwise?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +1

      You could do all sorts of things! You could do that yes, you could also turn the minor 1 into a dominant chord leading you around the cycle of fourths.

    • @ATLS702
      @ATLS702 6 років тому

      PianoPig thanks so much! I appreciate your openness, I’ll be trying this as soon as I get home. That’s really interesting the way minor and major parallel each other in terms of the cycle of fourths and fifths

  • @kartikeyasrivastava3719
    @kartikeyasrivastava3719 4 роки тому +1

    Why is the 5 chord a dominant seven? In the scale of c minor, the fifth chord is g minor :/ then why are we playing it as g dominant 7?

    • @sheimaina655
      @sheimaina655 4 роки тому +1

      kartikeya srivastava harmonic minor

  • @switchynz2597
    @switchynz2597 8 місяців тому

    thanks for the sample haha

  • @openaudio4432
    @openaudio4432 4 роки тому

    i like this

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  4 роки тому

      I like that you like this

  • @54321jr
    @54321jr 5 років тому +1

    what is the first chord on your intro????? i need it

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  5 років тому

      Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/x8J9CzSXrUE/v-deo.html

    • @54321jr
      @54321jr 5 років тому

      @@Piano_Pig Honestly, you are just awesome. thank you!

  • @langywpqw
    @langywpqw 5 років тому +1

    Are you the same person who does the lessons for fret jam? You sound soooo similar

  • @deejay5633
    @deejay5633 5 років тому +2

    u said that we have 3 options for the one chord (m7,mM7,m6), how come you played a rootless m9 at the end?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  5 років тому +1

      I'm essentially using the 'minor 7' option. But using that option doesn't mean you have to play a standard root position minor 7, you can still add chord extensions and make it a rootless voicing.

    • @DICACIO1
      @DICACIO1 5 років тому +1

      I think a better Answer is that we can play almost any minor chord in these chord progressions minor6, m7, m9, m11, m13 with all the dominant 7th chords that can be altered in any variations. G7, G9, with other extensions like b9, +11, 13, b13 etc etc.
      However, since these chords in "this video lesson" are being taken from the HARMONIC Minor Scale, it's going to force certain chord sounds to happen.
      Yet, we can do this all day long using Dorian minor, Phrygian minor, Melodic minor, and Natural minor scales too!
      And every chord progression in a "specific Minor 2-5-1" will sound amazing in some way, having its own music vibes & moods for certain atmospheres you want to create.
      There's No Rules to what chords you can play, as long as it sounds MINOR for a "minor 2-5-1 pattern/progression", and as long as you use the correct minor scale for those specific chords coming from each Minor Scale you choose to play LOL!
      I know, it's bananas trying to grasp all of that... Hahaha! Music Theory sometimes makes our heads explode into a giant headache, but it sure is FUN learning new things and new ways to play that Keyboard and Piano!!! 😂😂😂😂💀

  • @danielmudd4263
    @danielmudd4263 6 років тому

    Why is the minor 251 built on the harmonic minor scale and not just the minor scale (CDEbFGABb)?

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому

      That's the Dorian scale, not the minor scale you just wrote, the minor scale would have an Ab as well. We certainly couldn't use the Dorian scale since the II chord would just be a minor 7 without the flat 5. It's just much easier to think of it being built from the harmonic scale since all the notes we need are already there without having to cross-reference relative majors and parallel minors. Hope this helps!

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому +1

      it;s easier if I explain it in C MAJOR/A min
      Im just going to push UP one note at a time
      G#.....F#, G#........then D#, F#, G# ( lydian b3 or melodic #4)
      I... ii II iii III V v V vi VI vii VII Ocitve
      Am Bdim C M Dm Em FM GM
      Am Bdim Caug Dm E7 FM G# dim
      Amin B min Caug D7 E7 F# dim G# dim
      Amin B7 C aug D# dim Emaj7 F# dim G# dim
      A HARMONIC MAJOR
      A Maj B dim C#7 D min E7 F aug G# dim
      Natrual min
      Harmonic min
      Melodic min
      Harmonic MAJOR..........( the melodic min #4 =IV mode)
      There's other Harmonic scales...
      Harmonic min b2 Melodic min b2
      Harmonic min b5 Melodic min b5
      Harmonic min#4 Melodic min #4
      anyways...you can alter the II chord ...from dim to min7 to Dominant
      Its just pushing UP
      A minor will still be the PARENT or TONIC..as your reference piont
      if you're counting from A....
      It donst matter...use the MAJOR INTERVAL as the REFERENCE interval
      It's the same process for MODEs/chords ( the major;s scale is always use as the reference)
      becuase you can modulate to A MAJOR too...
      I
      if you do C MAJOR....sort of see it as C ION
      anyways...the II chord
      if you count from B....using different scales.
      Those are the TERMs of modes...simply identifying the mode's interval
      in reference to the major's scale interval.
      B loc loc maj6 Dorian b2 Mix b2
      Half FULL Min7 Dominant
      If you use A harmonic MAJOR
      it's B dorian b5......hence the possible FULL diminished ( R, b3, b,5, 6)
      but you can also modulate DOWN from C MAJOR toward C min
      as you also Push from A minor towards A MAJOR
      A lot of modes/chords will intersect.
      If you learn how to do it both ways...it'll be MAGIC
      But try to comprehend it in One key at a time...at first.
      becuase you can shift to multilple keys...back and forth.
      There's different ways
      ( which is cool..so you can write different songs/ progression)
      The II, V, I...or I, IV , V..is just the basic...( you have to start somewhere)
      Ab Eb Eb, Ab Eb, F#, Ab............ Eb, Ab, Bb
      ect
      The II IV vi VII ( as in b6 degree)
      when you count of A min...the G7 is in the b7 degree NOT Maj7 degree
      People BUTCHER the romans system
      The chord degree has nothing to do with what types of chords they are.
      These are ALL POSSIBLE FULL DIMINISHED.
      Whether its A Harmonic MAJOR or A harmonic Minor
      It'll overlap with ....
      C Harmonic MAJOR or C Harmonic minor
      as a reference.....B. D. F. G#/Ab
      ( That's why you need to see it in C Major/Amin)
      People butcher..that G# or A b
      The C Harmonic MAJOR sounds DIFFERENT it dont have Maj6 or A note
      as in G mix b2... NOT G# loc b4, bb7
      When you transfer that to other keys..if you the wrong symbol.
      it's not going to sound the same...The chords might overlap
      but the MELODY will sound different....
      so if you play II, V I.....in C Harmonic MAJOR
      D dim.....G7 C MAJOR
      or you can play play other chord such as the IV ( F minor)
      IV, V, I or I ,IV, V
      C MAJOR....F min G7
      if you play C Harmonic MAJOR or min.
      it 's D dorian b5 or D loc maj6
      A Harmonic Major or min
      D lydian b3 or D dorian #4
      example the III ( maj3) chord of A Harmonic MAJOR
      its Phrygian b4.....you can stack it like this
      1, b3, 5. b7......1, b4. 5, b7......1, b4, b6
      or the vi (b6) degree....the F
      F lydian
      F Lydian #2
      F lydian #2, b7 ( A harmonic min b5)
      the b7 is the Eb
      The iii = C b3, #5
      It'll overlap like that...C min ish..yes???
      or C Harmonic MAJOR = F l ydian b3
      C melodic min = F lydian b7
      or A Harmonic MAJOR = F lydian aug #2
      Lydian = Ion #4
      You sort of warp the lydian mode. ( Modulate)
      The other 8 parallel scales...dont have keys signatures...
      simply becuase you can use it different ways.

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому

      @@chansomanmusic1397 I cant fix stupid..
      There's 5-ea black keys. Learn how use them. ..one at a time.

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому

      @@chansomanmusic1397 Play the G#...then F#, G#...then D#, F#, G#....Ya FFFFken MORON :-P

    • @bobwrotenstien315
      @bobwrotenstien315 4 роки тому

      Because you need the juice you get from creating the tritone with the b6 ---> Ab/D

  • @thereisnone9621
    @thereisnone9621 3 роки тому

    6:18

  • @Bflatest
    @Bflatest 3 роки тому

    I though the jazz modes came out of the melodic minor ?

  • @CalvinJacobStevenson
    @CalvinJacobStevenson 6 років тому +1

    Dm7b5 aka Fm6 🙃

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  6 років тому +3

      You are correct! The only problem is that every chord in existence could be percieved of as about 10 other chords, so it sometimes just creates more confusion that simplicity! It also wouldn't 'technically' be a minor 251 if you were playing an Fm6. But certinaly helps to keep that at the back of your mind to help find the chord quicker! :)

  • @AK-rx6hv
    @AK-rx6hv 5 років тому

    Why do you add the 7th all of a sudden? Confused?

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому

      you can look at it like this....PUSH UP from A minor towards A MAJOR
      in I, IV, V.....counting from the A note....or A minor
      A min...........D min E min
      A min D min E7 ( Harmonic minor)
      The G# note...makes the E min into E7
      The second half a scale from the perfect 5th to octive...is a perfect 4th interval.
      you're basically just Creating 3 into 4.....or 7 into 8.
      aka LEADING TONE
      as in....G# into A
      A min.......D7.........E7 ( melodic minor) F#, G#
      the II chord is B min7 ( dorian b2)
      II V I
      B min.....E7....into A min
      or you can play double harmonic D# F#, G#
      B7 into E7 into A min
      verse
      D min G7 into C Maj
      but it dosnt really matter....you can play Dominant chord into MAJ or Minor
      The II, IV, vi . VII. the Vi = b6 chord degree
      are all Possible FULL DIMINISHED
      using the harmonic MAJOR or Harmonic minor
      C Harmonic MAJOR = D dorian b5
      C Harmonic minor = D loc maj6
      A Harmonic min = D dorian #4
      A Harmonic MAJOR = Lydian b3
      or like this.......G7 into C MAJOR or C min
      E7 into A MAJOR or A min
      if you count from the SECOND arpeggio of a G7 or dominant chord.
      it's just DMINISHED chord
      example......G B. D F G7....B dim
      E G# B D E7 G# dim
      D F# A C D7 F# dim

    • @kyrlics6515
      @kyrlics6515 5 років тому

      @@oneeyemonster3262 wat da hell

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 5 років тому

      @@kyrlics6515 what part of there;s more than just one type of minor scale did you not get????
      A Melodic min.......the II chord = B minor or min7 ( dorian b2)
      V = E7 as in Mix b6
      I = A min or A min/Maj7
      A lydian b3 ( melodic min #4
      This way you can play the II as B Maj or B 7
      V E Maj or E Maj7
      I A Min or A dim
      This way when you play A harmonic min b2 or melodic min b2
      You can play the Bb as Maj , maj7, dominant
      So you can Modulate DOWN to D min/FMaj
      G Min/Bb MAJOR
      C min/ Eb MAJOR..
      You can also play A Harmonic min b5 or Melodic min b5
      Or even A minor b5.....
      That would be the Eb note from.......C whalla C Minor.lmao
      That would be A dim....B dim into C Major or C minor
      or G min A dim Bb Major
      A lydian ish???? ( vi of harmonic minor is Lydian #2)
      Or E Harmonic MAJOR
      G# = Phrygian b4.....whalla G# into C# Minor.lol
      Or you can play.....Bb Maj7.....C7 to D min or F Major
      or you can play Bb7 C7 into F melodic min ( F minor)
      Or you can go like this.....do the CYCLE of Dominant
      when I say cycle down to the 4th....that's what I mean.
      Its just a Jazzy of a ma roo of doing the II, V, I and repeat
      Use ALL DOMINANT chords.....
      B7 to E7...then to A7
      A7 D7 to G7
      G7 C7 to F7
      F7 Bb7 to Eb7
      Eb7 Ab7 to Db
      Db7 Gb7 to B7,,,and repeat.lol
      or you can reverse the process
      or you can do it in Major or Min chord
      Like this.....it's going to go counter clockwise on the circle of 5th
      People use the term CYCLE down to the 4th..just to help you to go counter clock wise
      C F Bb
      Bb Eb Ab
      Ab Db Gb
      Gb B A
      D G C
      so those dominant chords are the V of MAJOR's TONIC.
      Notice those are all of the same ROOT note????

  • @xisotopex
    @xisotopex 4 роки тому +1

    why the harmonic minor scale?

    • @anirishmoron
      @anirishmoron 4 роки тому

      Because these exact chords (mainly the dominant V chord) don't appear diatonically anywhere else

    • @myoldskool
      @myoldskool 4 роки тому

      @@anirishmoron I think I understand now you've said that. It's because the natural minor scale would make the G (V) chord minor a not dominant? Tell me that's right because my brain is melting

    • @anirishmoron
      @anirishmoron 4 роки тому

      @@myoldskool yes exactly, for example in A minor the note that makes the 5 chord minor is G (E G B). But in harmonic G is raised to G# so that makes that Eminor to an Emajor (E G# B)

  • @colmcq
    @colmcq Рік тому

    spicy

  • @drunio1504
    @drunio1504 3 роки тому

    Ruddy masochistic, 🔥🔥🔥 S & M from struggling with a keyboard 🔥 😈😈😈

  • @cory8242
    @cory8242 4 роки тому

    that's Eb and F dim

  • @jerimiloh
    @jerimiloh 5 років тому

    Are you litomatoma from a pubg channel?

  • @Smoothhh_One
    @Smoothhh_One 4 роки тому +2

    2:15 my first thought? That sounds yucky

    • @Piano_Pig
      @Piano_Pig  4 роки тому +2

      Out of context, sure... but when you put into the context of a minor 251 it sounds awesome :)

  • @timjohnson2186
    @timjohnson2186 8 місяців тому

    pig here

  • @jackgalloway8314
    @jackgalloway8314 4 місяці тому

    Skip!

  • @mr.nobody68
    @mr.nobody68 2 роки тому

    My ear is screaming at your I chord being a minor major 7 because it doesn't resolve very well

  • @______6517
    @______6517 4 роки тому

    6:26