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The missions don’t even look that much different than the archives missions they rolled out every year. So I don’t know what they could have been doing all this time. Just makes me think PvE as they tried to sell us on it (skill trees, ability swapping, etc.) got scrapped behind the scenes long ago but Activision told them to keep making people think its coming. Until of course they made them tell people in the most casual way. Announce some new content then slip in that this massive thing people were waiting on isn’t coming.
Are they really mistakes when they're intentionnal? For example, shadow patterns and no confirmation popup when purchasing season pass being "ported" into diablo4...
Blizzard is wearing a wife beater, drinking malt liquor at 8AM, mumbling to itself, always asking for money, and ready to just unleash on its fan. Or at least that’s how it feels like with the way Blizzard treats their fans😂
They *can* turn back the clock though. Remove the monetization bullshit that made OW2 an overall downgrade from its predecessor. That means they'll have to charge money for it upfront instead of being F2P. Then, golly look at those priorities fly toward delivering a better product.
That’d be awesome, a big youtuber shitting on a horrible game and a shitty company that hates their fan base more than they love women? Sounds like a deal to me!
120k of those reviews are in a foriegn language (china) and its because the game isnt in their country, the other reviews are valid but only half of them most are just trolls. but honestly this game should be at mixed because the core game is a better game than ow1 imo, but just the scummy monetization and other things would make it mixed tbh.
@@EnvyOwthey made false promises about the pve, literally advertising a game that they knew would never come out. They made OW 1 into OW 0.5, a cashgrab, with a battlepass SO bad that made players miss lootboxes and taking away a lot of content that You could previusly earn just by playing. If lying to your playerbase, the people that play your game and give their money to support your product, isnt enough to deserve mostly negative reviews, idk what would be.
@@EnvyOw It made sense. It is greed. Plain and simple. The fact that you still defend them and say you don't understand should be rectified post haste.
It really does express the absolute giggling _contempt_ that major corporations hold their "valued customers" in. "Yeah, we get you're pissed off, but we don't give a fuck, now here's why you're going to keep giving us cash, you stupid sheep".
@ArcaneAzmadi my favourite is when the contempt boils over fully and you see social media posts from company members explicitly insulting the fantasy, like for BF2042
These people at blizzard have a bright future in politics. False promises they never delivered on to a large population and no accountability, typical.
Artificially reviewing a game at 0 rather than giving a more nuanced review that properly gives the game good points and bad because of missed promises in one area is the most childish thing to do ever. The multiplayer experience for team-based FPS still hasnt been properly matched - The core gameplay loop is still highly addictive and just plain fun to play.
@@devastatheseeker9967it’s quite strange how you complain about bandwagoning, yet one minute after you posted your comment, you got three likes. Unless you’re like botting, rewrite that comment to show how long you’ve played the game for.
Honestly, I'm still shocked that them cancelling the single-player missions after release didn't get Blizzard sued into the ground for false advertising
But…does being FTP forgive false advertising? Cause idk that it does. It’s FTP but…if it’s a false advertisement then isn’t it still false advertising?
@@hiramabraham9535I think it's because it doesn't cost the end user anything to acquire that false advertising laws don't apply. Similar to those "puzzle" game ads that show gameplay that is wholly different than the game you get when you download them I'm sure there's a limit though where failure to meet the advertised features results in physical harm i.e. a theoretical company giving away free tow hitches labeled to tow 5,000kg but in reality can only tow 3,000kg or whatever
Apparently Blizz never put PvE content as a promised feature in any of the transactions made by players. That's a big red flag that the PvE content was never going to be released, but I guess nobody caught on.
Holocure is more fun than Overwatch 2 and Diablo4 and it is made by one person for free. It has more content. You can't expect 9000 people to get as much done as one person. -Asmondgold
Yeah, they want the thing that was given as the entire reason for Overwatch 2's existence. As it sits, Blizzard killed Overwatch 1 for no reason at all.
@@TheBlueDsc Exactly. No one wants to play "Overwatch 1.2". They want a Single-Player campaing and not more of the same Multiplayer gameplay that we saw in the previous game.
You'll never get it. Also Jeff Kaplan left Blizzard in case you don't remember (the dev with the PvE idea and one of the main forces behind the success of og OW).
@@deceiver444 That explains *_a lot_* of things -- he probably left because he was tired of seeing the company he help to build going down the drain thanks to corporate greedy. Well, let's hope mr. Kaplan is able to find work in a more decent game dev studio.
I left tf2 cuz of bots and no more stuff to do so I came back to overwatch and decided to stick with it until PvE. Now I play other games and overwatch for daily.
Yes, during "review bombing runs", most reviews aren't good faith or an accurate review of the game. That's not the purpose tho. Point of it is to show dissatisfaction with some aspect of the game or the companies' policies. Just like you said, just because it's "review bombing", it doesn't mean there isn't valid criticism from which this bombing comes.
And when you think about it, the internet user base is as a whole rather chaotic, random, and often kind of stupid. For it to be focused enough to hate you in particular, is a sign you've done something terribly wrong.
@@subtlewhatssubtle That's spot on. When people of different nations, cultures, religions, ethnicities, from the left and right of politics, all come together on something, that's a supernova bright sign that there is something going on.
@@Superunknown190 man, what the hell is the battlepass for? So it's money for the pass and money for this shit too? here you go guys, we canceled PvE but we want to give you the opportunity to let you pay for the bare minimum promised gameplay.
I despise the term "review bombing". It implies that there's something artificial about customers choosing to not recommend your product to others when they've just been bait-and-switched.
The term has real uses sometimes, I've definitely seen games bombed for "activism" or some such before from people who couldn't care less about what the product itself is. However in this case, the product and the company behind it do both fully deserve harsh criticism. May their incoming overlords gut the higher up positions and fix things.
@@1stCallipostle True, but I think it gets applied incorrectly more often than not these days, especially when a fair bit of games coming out lately aren't exactly high quality. Stuff like Gollum and Redfall, among others.
The monetization is a serious issue and if someone doesn't want to play a second more of a game because of it, that's an honest review in my mind. But when people don't even make a good faith effort to understand the product they are reviewing, it's a review bomb regardless if they deserve it or not. I generally think you should have to finish games to review them but with these live service games all you can do is make a good faith effort because there is no end.
The most infuriating aspect of watching Blizzard's downfall is how often the active players will complain about the company's problems then continue to pay for and play their games.
This hit the nail on the head. All of these people that constantly come back to Blizzard like a battered wife who thinks that he will change for her but he never will. Infuriating.
most of them if not all you talking about are streamers, some of them dont even criticize the game at all cause they get an income from Blizz ads and sponsor and i dont support them but i can understand them cause thats what it get them by.
Seeing Blizzard these days, I don’t think they cancelled PvE mode because it was too ambitious or because they feared they could not reach the quality bar they wanted to meet. I suspect they cancelled it purely because they realized they cannot monetize it as much as they can.
Honestly, I still think it's both. The company has been in total chaos due to for example the lawsuit, the reasons that led to that, constant turnover rate, COVID, now the demand to return to office, all the old talent with their knowledge leaving and probably taking people loyal to them with them. I wouldn't be surprised if huge part of the screw-ups with their current games simply happens because nobody working at this point has any goddamn idea of what they're supposed to do, including the management. Nobody who knows their worth is gonna go to work to Blizzard with their infamous "Blizzard tax" to fix their and be paid peanuts for compensation. You pay with peanuts, your workplace is a lawless zoo, what you get is monkeys and elephants who trample all over everything. Monetization is definitely big part of this equation but also Western companies usually have strong need to avoid looking weak and apologizing too much. If the mode was even remotely close to being in playable state, they would have salvaged what they can just to avoid this PR nightmare. To me the most reasonable explanation is that after all this time us seeing the final results would have caused even bigger backlash than what we currently have.
Life is not that simple. Sure it might be part of it. But it being too complex and ambitious at the time is something only they know. Not up to us to claim as true or false.
They have to call it "Review bombing" to deflect and defend. It can't just be valid criticism and opinion stating. Activision Blizzard is garbage and deserves every negative review, but it's not like they are going to be honest and say, "Yeah Blizzard is trash now we deserve this for how bad we are."
Ok. It is kinda review bombing. While it does have grounds to be lower rated, it’s still isn’t such a bad game that results in a 1.4 on meta critic. Not saying it’s a good game thoughz
@@steverho3280 it's the only way people could find around showing how disatisfied they are with the product. It's not that the quality is bad, but all these attitudes, and the gameplay balance, were the nail in the coffin. The only reason the game hasn't tanked completely as of yet it's because the game went f2p, and that idea brings a lot of new players who never experienced the game and their reality is this, so they're happy with it and paying 20 dollars for skins which we used to have for free, as well as paying for the battle passes and all that crap.
@@steverho3280 You did say " it’s still isn’t such a bad game that results in a 1.4 on meta critic" which implies that you don't agree the "review bombing". Reply
@@youraveragerussiansanta3810 Correction, It is mostly Chinesse players being understandably mad about blizz pulling out of china, nulling all accounts made there. Making all WoW players loose access to their accounts, and more. Please, make your own research before posting misinformation.
@@youraveragerussiansanta3810 there's like 10 people posting tf2 memes and thousands of people complaining about the game's monetisation being predatory. I don't like the tf2 community but ya'll gaslighting them like crazy
The craziest part of it's reviews being "Overwhelmingly Negative" is that the reviews aren't review bombing like "meh company bad", they're genuine criticisms because of how horribly Blizzard has and continues to handle this game. I have stayed up until 8 AM to get FOMO loot (in Destiny 2), but Overwatch 2 genuinely made me not care at all. The day they announced they've been lying to us this entire time, I was literally about to play it as I had been doing for weeks. It was such a weird feeling not knowing what I was going to do with my evening because a multi-million (billion?) dollar company lied to me. I'm genuinely better off without it. I'm now playing games I've never played before (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Devil May Cry, Star Fox, etc.) because I have time that I used to spend playing Overwatch 2.
Admit it could maybe put Blizzard on the way of some redeeming path but I fear this company has been corrupted by Bobby Kottick beyond any hope of salvation
nah they are very much being bombed , and rightfully so . Most of the reviews come from people playing the game on battle net showing only 0.1 hours on steam , no one is actually fucking playing overwatch 2 game itself is terrible the community is shit and the company behind it is worthless . If they have a brain , the targeted audience is playing TF2 , honestly the only worthwhile team based objective shooter on steam .
Exactly, they basically tried to brush us under the rug calling it the equivalent of “conspiracy theorists”. Blizzard took the Nintendo road, “meh fuck our OG fans, we want NEW money.”
People literally don't hate the game and it isn't trash. People are just mad about the monetization and cancelled PVE. But you're talking out of your ass if you think the actual PVP experience / gameplay which has been the main facet of this game since its inception is somehow trash when it is better than ever
@@precisemotion Abandoning all your cosmetics and stuff in OW to play OW2 without the promised additions feels like buying a new FIFA game without roster updates.
If they wanna quality bomb, then they can eat the review bomb. They piled the munitions, set the fuse, and hit the switch themselves after all. Buzzword or not, it's entirely legitimate.
Oh come on bruh it became a meme to leave negative reviews on ow2. Hate companies all you want but dont hide behind irony, overwatch was review bombed hard by tf2 players and that's just a fact
@@guibeck8259 LMAO only 10% of the negative reviews even mentioned TF2, in fact, the TF2 subreddit even tell people explicitly NOT to review bomb OW2, receiving a majority of the community support. “But when I click on the negative review profile, they have played TF2!!” Wow, someone who enjoys playing class shooter games plays OTHER class shooters game on the market? Shocking, I know.
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 keep huffing that copium boy. >it's a meme for tf2 players to hate on OW2 >Most negative reviews are memes >Most negative reviews are done by tf2 players I don't give a damn what the subreddit said, this clearly wasn't the overwatch fan base giving their honest and sincere outlook on the game, but a meme by other communities, who grew specially bigger once youtubers made compilations about it
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 I know it's scary to have opinions outside the accepted majority, but do you really think more than half of all those reviews came from people who 1. Aren't tf2 players 2. Haven't come from the memes on UA-cam? Consider the rope next time you get mindfucked by irony so hard you can't form your own thoughts
I'm surprised they didn't get sued for false advertising when they market a game knowing full well the advertised features would NEVER be in the game and waited after release Literally the definition of false advertising and marketing. This is obvious criminal scamming behavior.
There’s a chance they might be forced to distribute refunds in Europe if a class action lawsuit comes out. The same thing happened in BO3 when the EU got on Activisions ass for Gorod Krovi being uncompletable due to crashing and they were forced to fix it. Here in the US though it’s legal to lie to consumers and you can’t sue for false advertising, the responsibility is placed on the person making the purchase.
@@Brandonious15987 except when they announced OW2 originally they offered a promotion where when you bought overwatch 1 during this promotion it said you'd receive the PVE mode for free. I bought the first game during this promotion specifically to take advantage and then they cancelled it. I definitely feel scammed.
True, making skill trees and AI enemies to shoot is way too hard and ambitious for a small inde dev team from Blizzard to accomplish. It's not like they made one of the most popular MMOs ever. Although, "too ambitious" really means "We realized we could make more money from this content by selling it a little bit at a time."
@@coolbrotherf127remember that you are really only playing the game from the original dev team of the original overwatch and the current devs couldn’t even dream of creating something like it or expanding on it
I don't think 150k negative reviews is at the level of calling it view-bombing, at that point it is because the game has a big problem and they are not willing to listen.
Review bombing is when people organize to mass dislike rate something over a minor update or something a person related to the game did outside of the media itself. Nobody organized for this, it just happened, because the game is a mess, updates BREAK the game more than fixing it, and the people behind it are rotten to their core. It's not review bombing, it's just that the sentiment surrounding the game has always been censored by Blizzard and its partners, Sony and Xbox included, but Steam? Steam doesn't care, if something is up with the game they WILL let you know one way or another.
This is the first steam game that I don't believe it was review-bombed, the reviews are a genuine representation of what players feel. They can't review the game on battle net and they can on steam, so they just left their honest review/opinion
What bothers me the most, is the lack of responsibility taken by blizzard. They don’t apologize without a defense or diversion of the conversation, they then continue to push scummy pay-to-play content, it feels like they are kicking fans while they are down about the state of play. Again, they’ve done it again. Vote with your wallets, they don’t deserve any more support from fans.
because one of the golden rules of PR is never acknowledge that you did wrong. always steer around it. people have the memory of gold fish. like how many people remember Riot was taken to court for Sexual harassment and more only a few years ago?
There's no way you're starting so much drama over a garbage boring pve mode in a pvp game 😂 the best part of the game is the combat but you want to waste that combat system hitting npcs? Go play minecraft 😂
People keep saying vote with your wallets(which i am 100% behind) but try telling that to casual audience who either don’t give a shit or doesn’t keep up with the news.
I really hate it when the press calls it review bombing, when that refers to it being done because of something outside the game, either by the devs or something else. Here? No, this is a direct response to the game's direction, and thus is legit reviewing it as it stands, and finding it wanting.
This isn't reviewbombing, this is just the general reaction to what happens when you promise something, don't deliver. Add nothing useful but more monetization. And ruin the 6v6 It's like the meme with the guy sticking a stick in the spokes of their bike wheel.
While I fully agree the games direction is shit and they deserve these negative reviews. Some of the reviews are just trolling them. Like one said “terrible game but great porn”. If That review is seen as legit then… While its funny as hell some of the reviews are bs. But again couldn’t have happened to a nicer organization.
@@thearbitar3751 there are plenty of instances of games getting review bombed because of political affiliation of a dev, bad business practices, or a company mistreating its employees
@johndodo2062 Well, I wasn't trying to paint a pretty picture of myself. I just said I missed the old progression system and lootboxes, in fact the only game that I liked lootboxes in it. Sorry if I'm not a saint
Just wanna mention they're charging new players another 15 dollars if they want to unlock all of the OW2 heroes. oh this is on top of locking away most of the old roster behind challenges too.
Isn't it fun whenever a movie show or game is so terrible that it gets mass negativity they always call it "review bombing"... what a wonderful way to avoid the reality of the situation.
Simple fact: Media corporations hate consumers. Every single one of these companies exists solely to make money. If they could literally reach into your pocket and take it, they would, but they can't, so the methods they come up with are trying to trick you into getting into the metaphorical van by offering you candy. Every opinion and preference you have is just an extra obstacle between companies and your money, so they hate you.
@penileymajorey7174 yep! Blizzard&Activision are perfect examples of the good ole' dark knight quote "die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." i grew up on amazing activision and blizzard games, and now here we are, seeing them pump out empty soulless junk riddled with microtransactions, and demanding that we don't hold a great complete game as the gold-standard, because they don't want to deliver that.
Nah fuck the employees, they could easily choose to stop working ther like Jeff did when he knew things were going to the shitter. These devs obviously don't care either if they choose to stick around.
Yea honestly I am done backing developers, everyone is always like oh, don't blame it on the developers it's not their fault, mostly which is true but sorry I don't feel most or at least half of these developers are truly skilled their work or at the very least trained for game development degrees, cuz it truly shows in the games lately
@@PulseOfMeThat's a pretty ignorant and immature response ngl. They're not happy to be the meat shields, but their work is getting the bills paid and it's not an easy job to land. Additionally, not everyone has a reputation and career like Jeff, so they can leave without a second thought and have no issue finding work. Don't you think many seeing the shit show OW2 is would love to leave if they could easily and quickly find another job that pays as much? Or you think they'd rather be showered in hate?
@@imagudspellr1644 Blizzard is well known for being one of the worst paying studios around. So that seems unlikely.. And even if a paycut would be the only option I'd probably still go for it just to not be associated with such a company anymore. It's not like all these problems have cropped up in the last year, Blizzard has been in a negative spiral for many years. Anyone still working there now certainly made the choice to stay there regardless of the bad sentiment. I personally wouldn't feel sorry for them, they made their choice.
@@PulseOfMeYou’re either delusional or have never worked a single day in your life. “Yeah lemme just uproot my career and just quit my job lol, I’ll just find another one” - what you think happens apparently
Remember some "positive" reviews are also passive-aggressive and straight up parodies, meaning that the actual and honest positive reviews might be even less than we think.
@@bruce5597Yeah thats me. I moved on from overwatch long before the steam release. I cant be bothered to download and play it again. Bet your ass though, my review would be negative.
It's worse than they think. If you take a look at OW2's positive Steam reviews, they are a very high percentage of joke and meme recommendations. The first two when I looked were just links to buying other team shooter games. Of the few that I scrolled past, maybe 1 or 2 were actual positive reviews on first glance.
Bro, they're a billion dollar company. Their little excuses about not being able to do both the PvE & live service part of the game mean dick, they absolutely deserve all the hate they're getting
It always amazes me that these companies have thousands of employees and they cant even put consistent hot-fixes out. Sometimes it seems modders and 3D porn animators are more dedicated to these games than the people who produce them are
@@highestqualitypigiron It's not that amazing. As it's not about whether they have the technical ability to do things. It all comes down to will the execs ALLOW them to do things. In the eyes of execs, not working on stuff that directly generates them money is a waste. So any deviation from deadlines needs to be argued for.
Anyone with a brain should be able to realize they're full of shit when they claim they can't do X or Y or Z when these are often standard features in games from years ago. Even small developers with a handful of people working manage to implement features like PvE against bots in their games, so the idea that one of the largest developers on the planet with one of the largest budgets and highest profits can't do so - is laughable at best. Unfortunately, a lot of people who play video games don't exactly have brains when it comes to this sort of thing, and are willing to accept whatever is given to them without standards. If they are having fun in the moment, they're okay with broken promises and incredible greed. I can sympathize with that, but such behavior has led the industry down a bad path.
Blizz 3 years ago: We can't work on the live service game because we're too busy working on PvE content. Blizz now: We can't work on PvE content because we're too busy working on the live service game.
I remember the days before Sombra became playable, when Blizzard did that big ARG about her. I don't even play Overwatch and I loved watching the community solve the ARG puzzles. How far the game has fallen from grace.
Congratulations to Activision and Blizzard for such an achievement, it doesn't take a lot to be mediocre, but to reach the bottom it truly requires a hatred again humanity not many people would be capable of.
@@MichaelPohoreski EA laying low did them a huge favour after Battlefront 2! Afterwards Bethesda fucked up with Fallout 76, Blizzard with Diablo Immortal and China+Hongkong+Hearthstone (remember guys, China? Hongkong? where are the news?... been real silent) , etc. and some other Companies. Smart move EA! And the games they released since. Who knows, maybe they'll bounce back to being ok, or even good... Glow Up EA?
@@MajinObama Oh I do remember the china hongkong stuff. That was actually the start of my personal boycotting of blizzard, and imho, they've done nothing but constantly fuck up ever since.
@@MajinObamaBlizzard: Now with _800%_ (over) value ... /s The ironic part is if you remove all the P2W bullshit _Diablo Immoral,_ sorry I mean _Diablo Immortal,_ is still a better game then D4. But yeah, the Blizzard "magic" has been gone for over a decade. Their art department is the only thing saving them.
@@michaelknox3715 Tf2 did it. IMO Blizzard big problem is the endless adding of Heros. They should have just chose a CORE set and focused everything on that instead of trying to include everyone
Yeah, but at the same time these devs knew what a terrible company Activision/Blizzard is and they still applied for a job, so you can't really feel that bad.
its like yeah Im sure if it were 2k negative reviews out of nowhere it would make sense but how can they not realize that this is quite literally just the outcome of releasing half baked reused content while also making the worst decisions game devs could ever make
To me, Blizzard is the WC3 / SC / D/D2 / WOW creators, who were fucking gaming legends, their quality was unparalleled, their fanbase awesome. Blizzard was ruined by greed, and their new stuff is hit or miss. Some games are doing well (WOW) others are not (OW2).
"We have made the courageous decision to keep exploiting and milking our remaining fan base for as much money as possible. Hold your applause." AARON KELLER
It is honestly amazing how these companies are still acting like they did when they had more money than sense coming in, which is short term thinking only. How much money can we squeeze out of the player base before the game is no longer played? Are they going to pull a HotS now and put this in maint mode so they can pull the devs off it to.... I guess do nothing since blizz has nothing going.
@@bobokisama The thing is though time has proven that it _works._ Sure they get hate for it but people still pay, and as long as people pay Blizzard doesn't give a shit what they think.
@@DreamyAileen Possibly.... but that time is drying or dried up. People across the board are really no longer accepting garbage 1/3rd finished games run by micro transactions and greed. CoD hardly sells anymore, WoW is dead, HotS is dead, Heartstone is dead, OW2 was never alive.... people are finally speaking with their wallets, both in gaming and in tv/movies. Not too many companies deserve to close down more than Activision/Blizzard.... maybe Disney or comcast....
Something to keep in mind about the "review bombs", that blizzard didn't mention at all, while focusing on not being able to deliver on PvE and the like... There's a significant chunk that are in chinese. The reason being that blizzard didn't renew their contract with the hosting company for the chinese server, so... china can't play.
Not just Overwatch either, every single one of their games save CoD mobile, which is published by Tencent instead of NetEase in China, AND not mentioning that their tools for archiving your account progress have reportedly been shoddy so even if / when they ever get the option to return to these games many players will have completely lost all their progress.
Funny thing is, OW players made many fun and unique PvE stuff in the workshop of the original game. We had player-made modes that were EXACTLY like the "upgrade your hero with unique abilities" that was promised in OW2.
I think Blizzard doesn't understand that this isn't review bombing, this is how geniuinely everybody feel about the game and can express it without worrying of getting silenced unlike on Blizzard forums Or in other words - Keller cannot comprehend that he is experiencing something called "Reality Check"
After what they pulled off with D4 and this... Sure, many will still buy their games because of the hype, but anyone who doesn't want to be deceived and scammed will avoid anything with their name on it. R.I.P. Blizzard, you will be missed...
Geuinely everybody. Sure bro. How many times do people have to say that a few 1000 people on a review page is A: not always genuine and B: not everybody. The happy players are busy having fun. They don't have time to complain on steam and forums.
@@phibu7517no no I think it's fair... OW2 was at least 4 years in development... Bg3 was 6. The results speak for themselves. People should know this is what blizzard thinks our "expectations" are
Tbh, I feel bad for BG3 for being more as a word used to combat Blizzard's or Gaming Companies as a whole's tendency to monetize their games which effectively monotoned the quality of their products and boosting negative feedback. It's more of a me thing for not seeing BG3 Recommendations on my UA-cam than also mentioning other games like OW2.
@@luminocuratoria1335 I would disagree. The reason we hoist it so high and use it as a weapon is it should be. That game should be the standard all other companies try to meet. It's mind-blowing. I've put over 100 hours in it and I'm still not done. All that for a 60 dollar fully voiced game with no dlc no microtransactions no roadmap. Just a fully done beautiful game. Now not all games are judged as harshly as blizz games when compared but honestly looking at OW2 and D4 side by side...it's opened my eyes to the greed of blizzard and it's sad. They used to be the bar at which all other games were compared. We are sad because they fell so far. They should be a rival to larian studios. Not this disgusting money hungry machine.
i'm surprised there isn't one yet. Imagine if this was any other industry, this would literally be advertising fraud. But then again, money always wins!
@@happyjam92 The game itself is free yes, but Blizzard sold stuff for it before it went out, but I'd reckon a lot of people only bought in because of the promises. In that case, it would still qualify as false advertising
@@Heartsatyr im sure it fluctuated somewhat, but i've periodically checked it over the last week or so and every time it has been 9% and the total number of reviews has gone up. Like right now, 9% of 152,850 I appreciate the ackchyually though
I like how they try to soften the blow by saying they’ll add more cosmetics soon. That’s the most basic component in ftp games they are actively digging themselves a hole and pat themselves on the back when it’s done.
Love how he doesn't mention how alot of people also bring up their use of predatory business practices in their monetization system bleeding consumers dry for every scent they can for old and reused models of skins. One of which as of recent was a battle pass skin recolored for a brand collab
The thing here is the loot boxes were free and if it dropped a duplicate it gave currency to buy what you wanted. Now it's cash or GTFO. Though with OW2 if loot boxes came back they'd 100% be monetized.
People were getting most of the cosmetics they wanted from just playing the game instead of giving them thousands of dollars. This was a great moral problem for them.
The thing is, the lootboxes in OW1 were at least given up at a decent pace and were cosmetic only. So while that is worse than getting the entire content directly, it's still one of the best microtransaction so far.
That's what gets me, they already said they decided in december to cancel hero mode story missions but did not tell players for almost 6 minths, most likely due to shareholder. I am surprised investors have not filed another lawsuit against these crooks at ATVI. Withholding information from investors for six months is definitely illegal. Story missions costing $15 and not replayable.
They did tell the shareholders, it’s illegal to lie to share holders like you said you can get sued. However, it is not illegal to lie to costumers (at least in America). So they told shareholders “hey we aren’t gonna do this thing but we’re gonna pretend we are so that way more people will buy the game.” The shareholders were cool with it since it’s no skin off their teeth and it’ll boost their bottom line a bit if Blizzard continued lying about it for a few more months.
Well Blizzard, when you keep ignoring the players, and keep trying your hardest to make this a greedy bottomless pit, how else do you expect for people to tell you we’re not liking what you’re doing!? I dropped this game MONTHS Ago, and I DO NOT REGRET IT!! Reap what you sow, Blizzard!!
Man, I got tired of the game during the OW1 era on the third year of repeated seasonal events, though it was mainly the community that pushed me away. Compared to today's Overwatch, that one looked godly.
Honestly I was gonna go back to ow2 simply for the new season skins. They look good I guess. Plus the gameplay wasn't horrible enough... It took me 42 minutes to get into a game. I picked all the roles. Wtf man. Maybe it was just the time of day I was playing or the day of the week or something. Still that is annoying as balls. :/
Literally changing heroes was the core part of the game. Some heroes are better on attack some on defence, some heroes are OP on some maps and totally useless on others and so on. Imagine playing now and telling your teammate that we need other heroes for better strategy and them saying sorry guys I don't have that hero
@@Ironclad404 you can still change mercs while playing and none of then are locked behind a paywall. And the game is 12 v 12 (if i remember correctly) vs overwatch 2's 5 v 5.
@@Ironclad404 You really support this awful cash grab? No, I will not just "play casually" overwatch was my fav game of all time before this greedy money hungry idiots ruined it. It is not even about the gameplay it is about the message. And the message I got is that they hate us and see us only as a oppertunity to get money
I decided in 2019 to not give Blizzard another dollar and they've honestly been making that really easy for me. It's honestly sad to how much my favorite developer has fallen.
Same. I convinced myself that despite all the evidence, W3 was going to be good. I was brutally proven wrong. That was OFFENSIVE to actual Blizzard fans. I was forced to face facts. Blizzard is dead. Everything that made them great is long gone. It's Activision Blizzard now, and always will be.
I haven't even played any of my old blizzard games that I already own ever since the blitzchung incident. Incredible that in all that time they still haven't improved at all. Just bad choices on bad choices on bad choices.
I hate how any mass criticism of a game (or any other media) is always deflected by calling it "review bombing" as if it's impossible for a large number of players to legitimately dislike a game. Also I like how the PvE was "to ambitious" as if we're talking about a small indie startup and not a multibillion dollar company. The PvE was very much within their capability it's just that they didn't want to put the money into it.
It's not that they didn't want to put the money into it. It's more a matter of "why release a full PvE campaign for $40 when we can bust it up into multiple parts for fifteen bucks a pop?" It's just Activision being Activision, nothing more, nothing less.
It's the pre order problem. You get sold "Help us fund the game and develop it!" Then a Corp accountant takes a look. and goes. "Hey, I have a great idea. Lets pocket the money, without THE DEVELOPMENT. And fire our developers to make MORE money and money and the qa too. why not? They tried to falsely advertise currencies and pcs content too and only released the beta content when people pointed out the beta content already existed. They re used orisa as a boss too. Twice, no less.
They can call it a review bomb, but so what if they do? The reviews are still legitimate because it's a bomb of their own making, and they set it off themselves.
@@midoribookstore the issue is what review bombing means: "to manipulate an online rating system with a semiorganized campaign of unfavorable user reviews, often as a general statement of disapproval for a creator, a publisher, or other business, rather than a genuine opinion about a specific product or experience." In other words calling it review bombing is essentially saying all the negative reviews are just internet trolls and nobody actually has this opinion.
Blizzard really doesn't seem to understand the situation they're in with this game. There is an incredibly simple solution to at least start to change the perception of OW2, and it's just putting these story missions out for free. It would get significant amounts of people coming back to the game because they don't have to shell out even more money, and they would be coming back to a relatively positive experience. They can't have made so much money with these missions that it wouldn't be worth the investment to get people to not have only negative feeling towards the game.
This. I bought OW2 for the PvE, I literally paid money for this product back at launch. The fact I already paid the price of the game and now they’re asking me to pay MORE just to play the game I ALREADY PURCHASED is ridiculous. This isn’t some special DLC pack adding bonus content to the game, it’s something that was advertised years ago and something I already bought months ago. When I buy call of duty I don’t need to spend an extra 15 bucks to get access to the campaign, when I buy baldurs gate I don’t need to spend 15 bucks to get access to coop, when I buy armored core I won’t need to spend 15 bucks to get access to PvP. This is advertised as part of the initial purchase, I expect it to be included
That's always been the case since forever, they've always made games for profit and sometimes not in a good way. Overpriced cheap half effort games have been existence for almost 50 years.
@@kicapanmanis1060 was Half Life an half effort game? or Counter Strike? or Left 4 Dead? or Crysis? Amnesia? Minecraft? Payday? GTA? Doom? Maybe some specific developers were doing it for the money alone, but back then, the only reason you were paying for the game was to support future games from those people and to allow them to make a living out of it, not to give the CEO of those companies a f*cking vault full of money to swim into. That's used to NOT be the case, and i'm tired of pretending it was.
I love how their answer to all this is promising to keep adding more junk to buy. Like its some special gift to the players, and not the entire purpose of the game in the first place.
I once heard that this game was not Overwatch two, but more like Overwatch too. And every time I hear about it, I am reminded of this and how much it's becoming more and more true.
I remember a video showing a handful of reviews and one of them said "Welcome to Steam, Blizzard - here's all the honest reviews" and that could not be any truer When the primary scoring metric is based off of the community, you're bound to get utterly f u c k e d if your game continuing a popular IP is bad, there's no paying off the reviewers in that situation
"we're definitely gonna learn from this. totally. please give us your money we promise we'll be better. how? shh just buy more battle passes and don't think about it too hard."
Yeah, that they knew it was getting cut a good month+ before release and didn’t say anything until like 2 months AFTER release was very modern blizzard.
They say they wanted to make the game more accessable, but werent they the people who required your phone number to make an account and excluded certain providers?
They're trying to play 2 sides. The side that reduces cheating and smurfs by requiring a phone number per account, and the other side that provides a game "accessible" to everyone, except for when it isn't.
@@RemedieX Well no offense, but thats the most bullsh*t way to stop cheating and smurfs considering it encluded everyone without a phone contract (like prepaid) and even certain contracts. Then again I have to thank blizzard for doing it, because it kept me from trying out this (now mess of a) game.
@@RemedieX Lol phone number doesnt effect cheaters at all either. Is 50 cents to have a fake number ping you back. Also just look how many youtubers have 10 accounts for "challenges (smurfing)".
I was really excited by the idea of customizing hero's weapons & skill trees. I would have definitely returned and kept playing if Blizzard (Activision) had delivered. But no, I only played Overwatch 2 once and haven't picked it back up since.
Numbers are going down,but people are playing it. Steam has over 20k regular players. Thats the problem though. People whine and complain while still partaking in these "services". Its the same all over gaming. Blizzard will burn, but a few/couple of years away yet.
@@N0pr0fitbecause Blizzards censorship reviews on their own website. Now on a third-party website, people can finally share how they feel, especially getting scam to those who actually be forced to pay for the same game called a "sequel"
I mean, you're not wrong. Overwatch 1 had the BEST lootbox system in the entire industry. You consistently got them and were able to open them for free, and if you wanted more in bundles, that's when you can start shelling out the cold hard cash.
Larion releases Baldur's Gate 3, a full package game with 400 people at the studio, and yet here's Blizzard, with many times more people, not even able to release a single player mode in a multiplayer game. They can barely manage an update to their game, and yet people are surprised that devs of various studios don't want BG3 to be the new standard of quality with no shit stains of microtransactions smeared across it.
here is my prediction: They will put in a little bit more content in the next mission pack, or maybe even make a really good one. But then they will also increase the price to something like 20 bucks on either that pack or the next one because "the costs are just way too high".
I didn't quit over lack of content. I play ow for the competitive play, leading random to victory through positive comedic showmanship, it's like a drug needing to do that daily. I quit because of the battle pass and that alone. I enjoyed overwatch because it was sold as "a 1 time buy. We will never charge you for any updates or any DLC." That was THEIR words after OW1 beta success. If there was a way to earn characters without the pass, I'd, grind my teeth but that's acceptable. But to completely hide the most op characters behind the BP has made the game 100% P2W and I am just against that completely and after supporting this company since 97, giving them...way more money than I ever should (I've never spent money on cosmetics anything ever. Only like name changes, transfers and subscription money) it just has become far to personal which I believe a massive chunk of their fan base understands deeply. Blizzard, I thought, was realizing how they could become number 1 again with a business model surrounding OW but they just hard leaned away from so many ideas like the OW skinned style MMORPG they talked about that we the fans said "hey, make that game, not OW2, were good the games perfect." Ughhh...watching giants topple has become exhausting.
I’m making this prediction before watching the video. Blizzard said they would do better in the future. They promised they would change the game and listen to player feedback. They promised to add more to the game. They gave no hint of when or showed nothing to back up their statements. I’m starting to get used to the “we’ll fix it for you later. We promise you!” line that they keep using.
@guyincle126 Don’t even start me on preorders. That’s been the downfall of the industry as soon as it happened. Devs became lazy as soon as that crap appeared. This is something that really annoys the hell outta me and the people that do this.
And beta tests have become sales models to make people pay in order to beta test the game after they bought it. Usually turns into a messy state once released and devs start to tinker. The Diablo 4 stash tab fiasco is a prime example of everything I said here.
I played Overwatch 1 a lot, even bought some of the funko pops of characters in the game. Once I heard Overwatch 2 was going free to play , I was weary about it. And well with the monetization and the scrapping of what it was suppose to be pve wise I didn't even give the game a try. I ended up going to another hero shooter that I played a bit, and that is Paladins. And honestly the way you can customize how you play your characters more in Paladins, is a lot of fun.
They don't even care if its the #1 most hated game on steam. They just care about the smallest influx of people playing the game now because of that possible up in money from that influx. This company is so disgusting its almost impressive.
and then holocure shows up on steam, a free vampire survivors clone with hololive vtubers, and gets more daily players than OW2. now THATS a big yikes.
People who might think that the reviews are being too negative need to realize that they took down Overwatch 1. They said ‘’The game you have paid $60 for and possibly spent even more in micro transactions will no longer exist, but we think it is worth it because you will get a new better version of the game instead.’’ And then they made a worse version with somehow even worse microtransactions and none of the promises kept
How they thought gutting the game of content and slapping a 2 on it would excite people is beyond me, they really think we are that dumb. And the audacity to call the criticism "review bombing" and say "well, we can't turn back the clock" all of the overwatch players are wishing they could turn back the clock to when the game was actually good.
Watching Blizzard take L after L is both satisfying and disappointing at the same time. They deserve every bit of the negative feedback they get, but at some point I'd like to see them pull their head out of their ass and actually do better for a change. I don't believe that's going to happen, but it'd sure be nice.
They can't do better. Those people are gone, and now the corpse of Blizzard is being manipulated by corporate executives interested in selling micro transactions from their online services. And they're doing that pretty well, despite gamers being unhappy.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 I'm sure there's still people in Blizzard that still care about the games they make. It's weird to have this irrational hatred of everyone working at Blizzard when they're just trying to work under a company douche Bobby Kotnik.
Very very briefly, there was a glimmer of hope with Dragonflight. Its initial launch was pretty good, Diablo 4s beta seemed promising. It seemed like they were finally listening and focusing on the player experience after failing for so long.... then it turned into a false hope. Diablo 4 turned into an elaborate cash grab. The WoW team is still not working on fixing the many issues that keep new players away.
@@BeastiezCyZ There are bound to be developers that still care, sure. But the talents that originally made them into such a well loved company in the first place have either all gone, or have effectively lost all creative power over what Blizzard makes. Blizzard at this point is basically just a brand name that is used to help sell people on nostalgia, without having the development or company fundamentals that actually make them able to make great games without massive greed taking over. Nobody should ever blame the average developer for this sort of thing, though. Blizzard games are still mechanically competent for the most part - the developers are obviously doing their best - but the monetization and greed are very obviously poisoning everything that they do, and I'm not going to respect Blizzard as a company when so mismanaged. In any case, at this point Blizzard has been dead and gone for a long time. I would argue their death throes began around the time they merged with Activision after their break-out success with World of Warcraft, and they basically have been on life support since them. With Overwatch being a rare exception of an actually good game since then (though it brought with it loot boxes and other things that were definitely not ideal). Anyone holding out hope that the Blizzard many of us knew and loved is going to somehow "come back" at this point (even after the constant botching of things like their Diablo series, Warcraft "Reforged," World of Warcraft, and now Overwatch) is living in a delusion.
@@BeastiezCyZ Yeah, some people care, but they're not the OGs who were doing great things with Blizzard, and they're hamstrung by corporate, so how much good can that care really do? And they're apparently not great enough yet to ditch the corporate baggage and do their own work independently or with a studio that isn't a corporate-piloted-Blizzard-skinsuit.
Include pve in the bp, make past and present bp tracks accessible whenever you want and allow us to earn shop items for free. Monetisation fixed, simple as. Them being able to sell past seasons would be huge for them. It's a win win.
I'm so glad you spoke up on this, i've been covering the game for 10 months on tiktok and every time they make one of these posts they feel the same, it's so robotic and when this post should've been something more to bring back players or mend any wounds from the mangling and morphing of OW1 into OW2 they just didn't. if there was ever a time to take some accountability and spark a fire under their asses and instill confidence in the future of overwatch it was with their response to the review bombing, and they said the same crap they've been saying "we'll work on it" I feel so bad for the overwatch fans because now there's this new group of players who think this game is fine as is when players who have been around the block still know that a lot of things in this game have been downscaled/removed/ruined because of this monetization plan.
The phrasing of their reply implies that the cancellation of the hero missions was announced in 2019 not that the hero missions were announced in 2019 and then cancelled recently. Very sneaky, Activision Blizzard.
Overwatch 1 was also my go-to game, it meant a lot to me with all the time and money spent to collect cosmetics, develop my meager skills with the game, and just have something fun to play when i've had a shitty day. Having heroes behind the battle pass was a sad moment. I said goodbye to my favorite game, the one I couldn't stop talking about with friends and co-workers. When you have to let go of something that was such a part of you it really sucks and cuts deep. I've lost all trust with Blizzard.
Whenever you need a reminder check out their other IPs states as well. Diablo 4 is maybe worse in player value per $ (apparently in the loot game diablo, all the new different cosmetic armors are in the paid shop) Wow is getting people mad about monetization of tenders CoD and hearthstone also have some bad practices now too Whenever I get tempted I just search for news about one of these games to remind myself it wont get better because the whole thing is infected.
It’s not so much that Blizzard was unable to realize the Hero Missions they promised. They were perfectly capable, the higher ups just didn’t care an ounce enough about the players or the IP to deliver
The weirdest thing to me is that they can't seem to meet what was standard practice for a shooter back in the days of the X-box 360. For the longest time shooters were sold with a singleplayer campaign alongside a multiplayer mode (normally half a dozen multiplayer modes really), but suddenly that's too ambitious? Of course there were shooters like team fortress and counter strike that didn't but they also never claimed that they did to drive up sales, this really feels like a super deceptive marketing strategy and I'm wondering if there's a case to be made for false advertising.
Even splatoon had a fairly robust singleplayer campaign, and it still has one! The main focus might be the multiplayer, but in order to be an esport, games have to be complete games first!
I can’t even remember which game it was anymore but this instantly reminds of a few years back when another major game was PANNED by users and some industry folk were discussing whether or not user reviews should even be allowed because users expressing their feelings on a product just doesn’t really work when you say what you really have to say.
I'm talking about nearly every game/movie/TV show that has been released and was generally regarded as bad. Take your pick, there are plenty of options
I love how Sakurai included the most ambitious crossover story campaign of all time in Brawl when no one asked for it. But Blizzard is like Waaaah! this is too hard.
Also from some of the changes from overwatch 1 that you cant avoid since they got rid of overwatch 1 Like couldnt they add a "classic" mode or something
True, but the core gameplay exists since Overwatch 1. Now, it's OW2 we're talking about. it's expected to have core from OW1 and more. But we don't really get the "more" part. Instead, we get the greedier version of OW1.
@@hug-the-raccoon Exactly, gamers need to let go of this race-to-the-bottom mentality of "well, at least the core gameplay is still there". That's the bare minimum STARTING POINT for a sequel, not a selling point. If I wanted just the core gameplay why the fuck would I buy a sequel when I can just play the first one (which blizzard cut off entirely for this exact reason; thank god I barely got into OW).
The fact that I PAYED for overwatch one, they CHARGE ME for something that I already BOUGHT?! *I ALREADY WASTED 40$ ON THIS GAME AND NOW YOUR CHARGING ME FOR A STORY MODE THAT I SHOULD’VE GOTTEN FOR FREE?!!!* What. The. Fuck?
That was a good honest summary of the sentiment of the game. If you're a core player who buys the battle pass anyways the story missions were enjoyable - I liked them, but they were by no means revolutionary and not enough to re-capture players who have previously quit.
Remember that their message is not for the gamers who are mad, they have given up on them and aren't even bothered trying to do any good for them. The message is for the non-gamers, and they are trying to paint gamers as this unreasonable bunch who are still mad after all the "hard work" they are doing in a slimy attempt to shift blame.
so wait... they announced a feature... that was their main reason to can overwatch 1, or rather main excuse, and was the reason they resold that game AGAIN (ain't really much of a two more of a 1.2 kinda update) but they KNEW they weren't gonna deliver and cancel said feature that was hyped to hell and back. because it could "impact sales" ..... what is it called again if you sell someone on a product you know and plan to not deliver... something with an F ...... rhymes with baut and is normally considered illegal in most countries :T how are they getting away with it.
$15 for roughly 1.5 hrs worth of story missions after scrapping huge portions of the PVE, namely hero missions, in a so called Free-To-Play game feels incredibly tone deaf.
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The missions don’t even look that much different than the archives missions they rolled out every year. So I don’t know what they could have been doing all this time. Just makes me think PvE as they tried to sell us on it (skill trees, ability swapping, etc.) got scrapped behind the scenes long ago but Activision told them to keep making people think its coming. Until of course they made them tell people in the most casual way. Announce some new content then slip in that this massive thing people were waiting on isn’t coming.
They certainly didn't fail to deliver that cash shop
It’s 5 dollars for the pve, you get the battle pass with the bundle, do your research
@@papapawpaw8877 Best believe the ways to make money will always work fucking FLAWLESSLY.
@@NutakuF2P It's not 5 dollars for the standalone content, why do you lie? Not to mention implying the battlepass is a given or free.
It's really crazy when they say "we can't turn back the clock we can only move forward" but they keep refusing to learn from any mistakes
We cant turn back time. So we release cut content for 45 bucks. 😅
Are they really mistakes when they're intentionnal? For example, shadow patterns and no confirmation popup when purchasing season pass being "ported" into diablo4...
Blizzard is wearing a wife beater, drinking malt liquor at 8AM, mumbling to itself, always asking for money, and ready to just unleash on its fan.
Or at least that’s how it feels like with the way Blizzard treats their fans😂
not learning from one's mistakes is certainly a way to move forward!
They *can* turn back the clock though. Remove the monetization bullshit that made OW2 an overall downgrade from its predecessor. That means they'll have to charge money for it upfront instead of being F2P. Then, golly look at those priorities fly toward delivering a better product.
I bet Blizzard is feeling a sense of pride and accomplishment for reaching the top spot for the worst rated game in Steam
"We're not so different, you and I." - EA
Blizzard knows it's just review bombs from a very loud minority. I'm sure they're glad to get rid of those players.
Munjer i hope you're joking
@munjerkucci8690 minority? More like over half the fan base 😂
@@munjerkucci 152,349 people are a minority lmao, keep defending a dead game
Does this mean that if Markiplier ever continues his "playing worst games on steam" series he'll play overwatch 2?
Not even markiplier would try and download this shit
Maybe for the content 😂😂😂
Now THAT is what I wanna see lmfao
That’d be awesome, a big youtuber shitting on a horrible game and a shitty company that hates their fan base more than they love women? Sounds like a deal to me!
I would prefer he tease the watchers by pretending to download it-only to load a different game entirely.
It's review bombing when everyone hates their BS, but it's a legit review when media they pay off say good things about it.
120k of those reviews are in a foriegn language (china) and its because the game isnt in their country, the other reviews are valid but only half of them most are just trolls. but honestly this game should be at mixed because the core game is a better game than ow1 imo, but just the scummy monetization and other things would make it mixed tbh.
@@EnvyOwthey made false promises about the pve, literally advertising a game that they knew would never come out.
They made OW 1 into OW 0.5, a cashgrab, with a battlepass SO bad that made players miss lootboxes and taking away a lot of content that You could previusly earn just by playing.
If lying to your playerbase, the people that play your game and give their money to support your product, isnt enough to deserve mostly negative reviews, idk what would be.
@@pixavier9746 true true i hate it man 🥲 love the game but why blizzard did this will never make sense
@@EnvyOwshut your undercover dev
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@@EnvyOw It made sense. It is greed. Plain and simple. The fact that you still defend them and say you don't understand should be rectified post haste.
We at blizzard have constructed our response carefully:
"Too bad, so sad,
Such a shame, very lame
-Love, Kotick"
I laughed then cried at this.
It really does express the absolute giggling _contempt_ that major corporations hold their "valued customers" in. "Yeah, we get you're pissed off, but we don't give a fuck, now here's why you're going to keep giving us cash, you stupid sheep".
How could you not use his proper name "Bobby Blackbook Kotick"? His buddy Epstein would be rolling over in his grave, smh
@ArcaneAzmadi my favourite is when the contempt boils over fully and you see social media posts from company members explicitly insulting the fantasy, like for BF2042
This guy gets it. Remember all those crying over Diablo Immortal? It has over 50+ million downloads on Android alone.
These people at blizzard have a bright future in politics. False promises they never delivered on to a large population and no accountability, typical.
Artificially reviewing a game at 0 rather than giving a more nuanced review that properly gives the game good points and bad because of missed promises in one area is the most childish thing to do ever. The multiplayer experience for team-based FPS still hasnt been properly matched - The core gameplay loop is still highly addictive and just plain fun to play.
a lot of the Blizzard execs are ex-government... pretty much explains itself.
@@VesperAegis it wasn't even better than TF2's, a game from 2007.
@@VesperAegis it's called "customer dissatisfaction", and it doesn't have to be a wall of text to express it.
@@VesperAegisnice try stalin
Welcome to Steam, Blizzard. We hope you’re enjoying the honest feedback.
Feedback they don't get to hide in their stolen breastmilk fridge.
Yes the honest feedback from people who haven't played the game for even 5 hours and are just jumping on a bandwagon
@@devastatheseeker9967they could have played it on battlenet and left there review on steam! I know I did.
@@devastatheseeker9967it’s quite strange how you complain about bandwagoning, yet one minute after you posted your comment, you got three likes. Unless you’re like botting, rewrite that comment to show how long you’ve played the game for.
@@devastatheseeker9967nothing can save you
Honestly, I'm still shocked that them cancelling the single-player missions after release didn't get Blizzard sued into the ground for false advertising
Unfortunately, it's because money wins.
I bet that’s one of the only reasons it was ever free to play to be honest. So they wouldn’t get sued.
But…does being FTP forgive false advertising? Cause idk that it does. It’s FTP but…if it’s a false advertisement then isn’t it still false advertising?
@@hiramabraham9535I think it's because it doesn't cost the end user anything to acquire that false advertising laws don't apply. Similar to those "puzzle" game ads that show gameplay that is wholly different than the game you get when you download them
I'm sure there's a limit though where failure to meet the advertised features results in physical harm i.e. a theoretical company giving away free tow hitches labeled to tow 5,000kg but in reality can only tow 3,000kg or whatever
Apparently Blizz never put PvE content as a promised feature in any of the transactions made by players. That's a big red flag that the PvE content was never going to be released, but I guess nobody caught on.
"While being reviewed bombed isn't a fun experience..."
Blizzard wouldn't know what a fun experience was if it kicked them in the ass.
oh they know what it is
they just got a kink for getting kicked in the ass
They wouldn't know fun if it punched em in the balls.
Holocure is more fun than Overwatch 2 and Diablo4 and it is made by one person for free. It has more content.
You can't expect 9000 people to get as much done as one person. -Asmondgold
They'd tell you what's their 'fun experience' but they'd end up in jail
@@Dragon-Believer asmongold isn't one to talk about doing work, all he does is watch other people's videos for a living cause he's a dirty leech
People *_don't want_* "more skins, maps and heroes"! *_They want the PvE Mode that the own devs at Blizzard promised._*
Yeah, they want the thing that was given as the entire reason for Overwatch 2's existence. As it sits, Blizzard killed Overwatch 1 for no reason at all.
@@TheBlueDsc Exactly. No one wants to play "Overwatch 1.2". They want a Single-Player campaing and not more of the same Multiplayer gameplay that we saw in the previous game.
You'll never get it. Also Jeff Kaplan left Blizzard in case you don't remember (the dev with the PvE idea and one of the main forces behind the success of og OW).
@@deceiver444 That explains *_a lot_* of things -- he probably left because he was tired of seeing the company he help to build going down the drain thanks to corporate greedy. Well, let's hope mr. Kaplan is able to find work in a more decent game dev studio.
I left tf2 cuz of bots and no more stuff to do so I came back to overwatch and decided to stick with it until PvE. Now I play other games and overwatch for daily.
I'm surprised Blizzard's official response doesn't include a link to the in-game store
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Don't give them ideas.
Me: "But I don't even own the game."
Activision-Blizzard: "Doesn't mean you can't spend your money in the digital store, does it?"
Surprised we did not have to PAY to hear the response!
* *2003:* _I used to go into a store to find a game,_
* *2023:* _Now I go into a game to find a store._
Everything wrong with AAA gaming.
I love the hand wave dismissal by saying "review bombed" like thats a magic phrase that gives you immunity from criticism. 😂
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Yes, during "review bombing runs", most reviews aren't good faith or an accurate review of the game. That's not the purpose tho. Point of it is to show dissatisfaction with some aspect of the game or the companies' policies.
Just like you said, just because it's "review bombing", it doesn't mean there isn't valid criticism from which this bombing comes.
And when you think about it, the internet user base is as a whole rather chaotic, random, and often kind of stupid. For it to be focused enough to hate you in particular, is a sign you've done something terribly wrong.
@@subtlewhatssubtle That's spot on. When people of different nations, cultures, religions, ethnicities, from the left and right of politics, all come together on something, that's a supernova bright sign that there is something going on.
It's the victim card of corporations.
If they think those overpriced hero missions are going to fix this situation, they’ve got another thing coming.
pause. You have to pay for the hero missions?
@@thatsreallyamoon 15 bucks
@@thatsreallyamoonYep! 15 dollars a pop! Cough it up!
@@thatsreallyamoon Yes, it's like paying to have access to an event mission
@@Superunknown190 man, what the hell is the battlepass for? So it's money for the pass and money for this shit too? here you go guys, we canceled PvE but we want to give you the opportunity to let you pay for the bare minimum promised gameplay.
I despise the term "review bombing". It implies that there's something artificial about customers choosing to not recommend your product to others when they've just been bait-and-switched.
The term has real uses sometimes, I've definitely seen games bombed for "activism" or some such before from people who couldn't care less about what the product itself is.
However in this case, the product and the company behind it do both fully deserve harsh criticism. May their incoming overlords gut the higher up positions and fix things.
Nah review bombing definitely happens over stupid things. This just happens to be a case where the product straight up sucks.
@@1stCallipostle True, but I think it gets applied incorrectly more often than not these days, especially when a fair bit of games coming out lately aren't exactly high quality. Stuff like Gollum and Redfall, among others.
The monetization is a serious issue and if someone doesn't want to play a second more of a game because of it, that's an honest review in my mind. But when people don't even make a good faith effort to understand the product they are reviewing, it's a review bomb regardless if they deserve it or not.
I generally think you should have to finish games to review them but with these live service games all you can do is make a good faith effort because there is no end.
152,000 user reviews isn't review bombing. It's the community consensus.
I love the fact that kotaku and the others are trying to tell you "nope, not worth 15 bucks" but they cannot do it openly.
You know you fucked up royally when even Kotaku thinks you did something horribly.
@@TheGreatThiccactually true, you know you fucked up then.
"Kotaku and the others" sell you narrative and ideology to please their stakeholders and that's it.
The most infuriating aspect of watching Blizzard's downfall is how often the active players will complain about the company's problems then continue to pay for and play their games.
This hit the nail on the head. All of these people that constantly come back to Blizzard like a battered wife who thinks that he will change for her but he never will. Infuriating.
I didn't buy Diablo 4. I'm proud of myself.
most of them if not all you talking about are streamers, some of them dont even criticize the game at all cause they get an income from Blizz ads and sponsor and i dont support them but i can understand them cause thats what it get them by.
@@Thanatos2k You should be. I did buy it, and now regret it.
Well the game is just bad. Its a massive downgrade from ow1.
Seeing Blizzard these days, I don’t think they cancelled PvE mode because it was too ambitious or because they feared they could not reach the quality bar they wanted to meet.
I suspect they cancelled it purely because they realized they cannot monetize it as much as they can.
Oh that’s 100% what’s happened. The fact companies can do this bait and switch with games is disgusting.
Exactly perfectly Said.
Honestly, I still think it's both. The company has been in total chaos due to for example the lawsuit, the reasons that led to that, constant turnover rate, COVID, now the demand to return to office, all the old talent with their knowledge leaving and probably taking people loyal to them with them. I wouldn't be surprised if huge part of the screw-ups with their current games simply happens because nobody working at this point has any goddamn idea of what they're supposed to do, including the management. Nobody who knows their worth is gonna go to work to Blizzard with their infamous "Blizzard tax" to fix their and be paid peanuts for compensation. You pay with peanuts, your workplace is a lawless zoo, what you get is monkeys and elephants who trample all over everything.
Monetization is definitely big part of this equation but also Western companies usually have strong need to avoid looking weak and apologizing too much. If the mode was even remotely close to being in playable state, they would have salvaged what they can just to avoid this PR nightmare. To me the most reasonable explanation is that after all this time us seeing the final results would have caused even bigger backlash than what we currently have.
That would be my assumption as well.
Life is not that simple. Sure it might be part of it. But it being too complex and ambitious at the time is something only they know. Not up to us to claim as true or false.
They have to call it "Review bombing" to deflect and defend. It can't just be valid criticism and opinion stating. Activision Blizzard is garbage and deserves every negative review, but it's not like they are going to be honest and say, "Yeah Blizzard is trash now we deserve this for how bad we are."
Ok. It is kinda review bombing. While it does have grounds to be lower rated, it’s still isn’t such a bad game that results in a 1.4 on meta critic. Not saying it’s a good game thoughz
It is review bombing they deserve it like all the freaking companies Gaijin also!!!
@@steverho3280 it's the only way people could find around showing how disatisfied they are with the product. It's not that the quality is bad, but all these attitudes, and the gameplay balance, were the nail in the coffin. The only reason the game hasn't tanked completely as of yet it's because the game went f2p, and that idea brings a lot of new players who never experienced the game and their reality is this, so they're happy with it and paying 20 dollars for skins which we used to have for free, as well as paying for the battle passes and all that crap.
Once again, I never said its a good game and that they don't deserve the review bombing. @@pedrosilvaproductions
@@steverho3280 You did say " it’s still isn’t such a bad game that results in a 1.4 on meta critic" which implies that you don't agree the "review bombing".
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I love how everything that gets a negative reception is just called a review bomb now as if people aren't allowed to not like something anymore.
Tbf it is mostly tf2 players trolling
@@youraveragerussiansanta3810 Correction, It is mostly Chinesse players being understandably mad about blizz pulling out of china, nulling all accounts made there. Making all WoW players loose access to their accounts, and more. Please, make your own research before posting misinformation.
It was just review bombed though, because people still are playing it. It still is pretty popular.
@@youraveragerussiansanta3810 there's like 10 people posting tf2 memes and thousands of people complaining about the game's monetisation being predatory. I don't like the tf2 community but ya'll gaslighting them like crazy
@@TheSlayer322pl damn did that really happen?
The craziest part of it's reviews being "Overwhelmingly Negative" is that the reviews aren't review bombing like "meh company bad", they're genuine criticisms because of how horribly Blizzard has and continues to handle this game.
I have stayed up until 8 AM to get FOMO loot (in Destiny 2), but Overwatch 2 genuinely made me not care at all. The day they announced they've been lying to us this entire time, I was literally about to play it as I had been doing for weeks. It was such a weird feeling not knowing what I was going to do with my evening because a multi-million (billion?) dollar company lied to me.
I'm genuinely better off without it. I'm now playing games I've never played before (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Devil May Cry, Star Fox, etc.) because I have time that I used to spend playing Overwatch 2.
Hell yea, i was Genuinely dumbfounded after seeing everyone flock back to ow2 after how awful ow1 had been for yeeaaaaarrss
I dunno if linking tf2 or typing porn better is a genuine criticism
Bro zeldas amazing!!!
Hell you can pretty much emulate almost every single game console now with good they are now
Man quit the gaming grind to play some reals gems. Love to see it
they aren't being """review bombed""", they are getting honest, genuine feedback from their target audience.
Admit it could maybe put Blizzard on the way of some redeeming path but I fear this company has been corrupted by Bobby Kottick beyond any hope of salvation
You gotta see it through Blizzards view, they say that because if they don't, thousands of "money givers" would pull out and go away lol.
nah they are very much being bombed , and rightfully so . Most of the reviews come from people playing the game on battle net showing only 0.1 hours on steam , no one is actually fucking playing overwatch 2 game itself is terrible the community is shit and the company behind it is worthless . If they have a brain , the targeted audience is playing TF2 , honestly the only worthwhile team based objective shooter on steam .
Exactly, they basically tried to brush us under the rug calling it the equivalent of “conspiracy theorists”. Blizzard took the Nintendo road, “meh fuck our OG fans, we want NEW money.”
Same shit with Skullgirls. Why is it that devs and companies always like to deflect when they receive genuine criticism?
"Our game is trash, and people hate it. I think we did a good job." - Most Blizzard thing ever.
But profits were good due to reduced development costs and micro transactions reaching our target.
People literally don't hate the game and it isn't trash. People are just mad about the monetization and cancelled PVE. But you're talking out of your ass if you think the actual PVP experience / gameplay which has been the main facet of this game since its inception is somehow trash when it is better than ever
@@ordinaryhuman5645you got it directly in one my fellow
This is different story if we're talking about oldschool Blizzard
@@precisemotion Abandoning all your cosmetics and stuff in OW to play OW2 without the promised additions feels like buying a new FIFA game without roster updates.
"Review bomb" is the new buzzword for companies to cope with people not liking policies that impact every aspect of their product.
If they wanna quality bomb, then they can eat the review bomb. They piled the munitions, set the fuse, and hit the switch themselves after all. Buzzword or not, it's entirely legitimate.
Oh come on bruh it became a meme to leave negative reviews on ow2. Hate companies all you want but dont hide behind irony, overwatch was review bombed hard by tf2 players and that's just a fact
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LMAO only 10% of the negative reviews even mentioned TF2, in fact, the TF2 subreddit even tell people explicitly NOT to review bomb OW2, receiving a majority of the community support. “But when I click on the negative review profile, they have played TF2!!” Wow, someone who enjoys playing class shooter games plays OTHER class shooters game on the market? Shocking, I know.
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 keep huffing that copium boy.
>it's a meme for tf2 players to hate on OW2
>Most negative reviews are memes
>Most negative reviews are done by tf2 players
I don't give a damn what the subreddit said, this clearly wasn't the overwatch fan base giving their honest and sincere outlook on the game, but a meme by other communities, who grew specially bigger once youtubers made compilations about it
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 I know it's scary to have opinions outside the accepted majority, but do you really think more than half of all those reviews came from people who 1. Aren't tf2 players 2. Haven't come from the memes on UA-cam? Consider the rope next time you get mindfucked by irony so hard you can't form your own thoughts
I'm surprised they didn't get sued for false advertising when they market a game knowing full well the advertised features would NEVER be in the game and waited after release Literally the definition of false advertising and marketing. This is obvious criminal scamming behavior.
There’s a chance they might be forced to distribute refunds in Europe if a class action lawsuit comes out. The same thing happened in BO3 when the EU got on Activisions ass for Gorod Krovi being uncompletable due to crashing and they were forced to fix it.
Here in the US though it’s legal to lie to consumers and you can’t sue for false advertising, the responsibility is placed on the person making the purchase.
@@RockyLXXXVIII of course, the companies lobbied to make it legal to lie. Hopefully we can fix that too.
Since it's F2P there isn't much to sue for. If you bought OW1 that was before they were advertising this pve.
@@Brandonious15987 Honestly the F2P defense should be thrown out since it's painfully obvious it's used to 'legally' scam people.
@@Brandonious15987 except when they announced OW2 originally they offered a promotion where when you bought overwatch 1 during this promotion it said you'd receive the PVE mode for free. I bought the first game during this promotion specifically to take advantage and then they cancelled it. I definitely feel scammed.
Imagine being a "AAA dev company" and thinking bot PvE as being ambitious. 😂
Straight up.
True, making skill trees and AI enemies to shoot is way too hard and ambitious for a small inde dev team from Blizzard to accomplish. It's not like they made one of the most popular MMOs ever. Although, "too ambitious" really means "We realized we could make more money from this content by selling it a little bit at a time."
@@coolbrotherf127remember that you are really only playing the game from the original dev team of the original overwatch and the current devs couldn’t even dream of creating something like it or expanding on it
They could have turned it around like no mans sky when it first released. Unfortunately we have to dream.
Especially considering that the "bot PvE mode" has been a thing in TF2 for over a decade by now. With progression, skills and upgrades.
The list of full games one can buy for $15 - $20 is almost endless. Great, complete games.
Indie games are why I still have a gaming pc. Otherwise all i need is a cheap laptop for work.
Exactly, Crosscode. Sea of stars, Kris Tales and much more
Ori comes to mind
Deep rock galactic
Dying light is like under 10dollars. Its in my top 5 favorite games of all time
I don't think 150k negative reviews is at the level of calling it view-bombing, at that point it is because the game has a big problem and they are not willing to listen.
Review bombing is when people organize to mass dislike rate something over a minor update or something a person related to the game did outside of the media itself.
Nobody organized for this, it just happened, because the game is a mess, updates BREAK the game more than fixing it, and the people behind it are rotten to their core.
It's not review bombing, it's just that the sentiment surrounding the game has always been censored by Blizzard and its partners, Sony and Xbox included, but Steam? Steam doesn't care, if something is up with the game they WILL let you know one way or another.
This is the first steam game that I don't believe it was review-bombed, the reviews are a genuine representation of what players feel. They can't review the game on battle net and they can on steam, so they just left their honest review/opinion
What bothers me the most, is the lack of responsibility taken by blizzard. They don’t apologize without a defense or diversion of the conversation, they then continue to push scummy pay-to-play content, it feels like they are kicking fans while they are down about the state of play. Again, they’ve done it again. Vote with your wallets, they don’t deserve any more support from fans.
Why should they do better? The people still playing and supporting them showed they are suckers
I vote with my wallet. I bought BG3 for my brother-in-law even thought he does not have time to play it.
because one of the golden rules of PR is never acknowledge that you did wrong. always steer around it. people have the memory of gold fish.
like how many people remember Riot was taken to court for Sexual harassment and more only a few years ago?
There's no way you're starting so much drama over a garbage boring pve mode in a pvp game 😂 the best part of the game is the combat but you want to waste that combat system hitting npcs? Go play minecraft 😂
People keep saying vote with your wallets(which i am 100% behind) but try telling that to casual audience who either don’t give a shit or doesn’t keep up with the news.
I really hate it when the press calls it review bombing, when that refers to it being done because of something outside the game, either by the devs or something else. Here? No, this is a direct response to the game's direction, and thus is legit reviewing it as it stands, and finding it wanting.
This isn't reviewbombing, this is just the general reaction to what happens when you promise something, don't deliver. Add nothing useful but more monetization. And ruin the 6v6
It's like the meme with the guy sticking a stick in the spokes of their bike wheel.
Never heard anyone see review bombing as anything but the game being shite
While I fully agree the games direction is shit and they deserve these negative reviews. Some of the reviews are just trolling them. Like one said “terrible game but great porn”.
If That review is seen as legit then…
While its funny as hell some of the reviews are bs. But again couldn’t have happened to a nicer organization.
@@thearbitar3751 there are plenty of instances of games getting review bombed because of political affiliation of a dev, bad business practices, or a company mistreating its employees
Thank you!
This has always been such a pet peeve of mine when people call it that, even Yong makes that mistake a lot.
When you miss loot boxes,you know something is wrong
When the progression path at least gave you a reward.
Every level up felt important cause you got loot boxes. hell, overwatch is the only game that I ever decided to buy lootboxes for
@@awesomearsam1890that doesn't say anything good about you chief
@johndodo2062 Well, I wasn't trying to paint a pretty picture of myself. I just said I missed the old progression system and lootboxes, in fact the only game that I liked lootboxes in it.
Sorry if I'm not a saint
Just wanna mention they're charging new players another 15 dollars if they want to unlock all of the OW2 heroes.
oh this is on top of locking away most of the old roster behind challenges too.
Isn't it fun whenever a movie show or game is so terrible that it gets mass negativity they always call it "review bombing"...
what a wonderful way to avoid the reality of the situation.
WAAAAH, the internet bashed my game, let me dry my tears with the hundreds of dollars we milked
Fuck blizzard
Simple fact: Media corporations hate consumers. Every single one of these companies exists solely to make money. If they could literally reach into your pocket and take it, they would, but they can't, so the methods they come up with are trying to trick you into getting into the metaphorical van by offering you candy. Every opinion and preference you have is just an extra obstacle between companies and your money, so they hate you.
@penileymajorey7174 yep! Blizzard&Activision are perfect examples of the good ole' dark knight quote "die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
i grew up on amazing activision and blizzard games, and now here we are, seeing them pump out empty soulless junk riddled with microtransactions, and demanding that we don't hold a great complete game as the gold-standard, because they don't want to deliver that.
Honestly I want this company to fail and for the normal employees to find a better place to work for
Nah fuck the employees, they could easily choose to stop working ther like Jeff did when he knew things were going to the shitter. These devs obviously don't care either if they choose to stick around.
Yea honestly I am done backing developers, everyone is always like oh, don't blame it on the developers it's not their fault, mostly which is true but sorry I don't feel most or at least half of these developers are truly skilled their work or at the very least trained for game development degrees, cuz it truly shows in the games lately
@@PulseOfMeThat's a pretty ignorant and immature response ngl. They're not happy to be the meat shields, but their work is getting the bills paid and it's not an easy job to land. Additionally, not everyone has a reputation and career like Jeff, so they can leave without a second thought and have no issue finding work. Don't you think many seeing the shit show OW2 is would love to leave if they could easily and quickly find another job that pays as much? Or you think they'd rather be showered in hate?
@@imagudspellr1644 Blizzard is well known for being one of the worst paying studios around. So that seems unlikely..
And even if a paycut would be the only option I'd probably still go for it just to not be associated with such a company anymore.
It's not like all these problems have cropped up in the last year, Blizzard has been in a negative spiral for many years.
Anyone still working there now certainly made the choice to stay there regardless of the bad sentiment.
I personally wouldn't feel sorry for them, they made their choice.
@@PulseOfMeYou’re either delusional or have never worked a single day in your life.
“Yeah lemme just uproot my career and just quit my job lol, I’ll just find another one”
- what you think happens apparently
Remember some "positive" reviews are also passive-aggressive and straight up parodies, meaning that the actual and honest positive reviews might be even less than we think.
@@bruce5597Yeah thats me. I moved on from overwatch long before the steam release. I cant be bothered to download and play it again.
Bet your ass though, my review would be negative.
This is literally the real-life version of "Am I so out of touch? ...no. It's the players who are wrong."
It's worse than they think. If you take a look at OW2's positive Steam reviews, they are a very high percentage of joke and meme recommendations. The first two when I looked were just links to buying other team shooter games. Of the few that I scrolled past, maybe 1 or 2 were actual positive reviews on first glance.
Bro, they're a billion dollar company. Their little excuses about not being able to do both the PvE & live service part of the game mean dick, they absolutely deserve all the hate they're getting
100%
It always amazes me that these companies have thousands of employees and they cant even put consistent hot-fixes out. Sometimes it seems modders and 3D porn animators are more dedicated to these games than the people who produce them are
@@highestqualitypigiron It's not that amazing. As it's not about whether they have the technical ability to do things. It all comes down to will the execs ALLOW them to do things.
In the eyes of execs, not working on stuff that directly generates them money is a waste. So any deviation from deadlines needs to be argued for.
Anyone with a brain should be able to realize they're full of shit when they claim they can't do X or Y or Z when these are often standard features in games from years ago.
Even small developers with a handful of people working manage to implement features like PvE against bots in their games, so the idea that one of the largest developers on the planet with one of the largest budgets and highest profits can't do so - is laughable at best.
Unfortunately, a lot of people who play video games don't exactly have brains when it comes to this sort of thing, and are willing to accept whatever is given to them without standards.
If they are having fun in the moment, they're okay with broken promises and incredible greed. I can sympathize with that, but such behavior has led the industry down a bad path.
xd
Blizz 3 years ago: We can't work on the live service game because we're too busy working on PvE content.
Blizz now: We can't work on PvE content because we're too busy working on the live service game.
Blizz soon: "We can't work."
This company is turning into a certified laughing stock
More like we cant serve quality game because of recent lawsuit but thats their own fault but the community are the one who HAD to suffer from it
I remember the days before Sombra became playable, when Blizzard did that big ARG about her.
I don't even play Overwatch and I loved watching the community solve the ARG puzzles.
How far the game has fallen from grace.
And they DID ARG-thing, before season 6 started. But... It looks cringe now, knowing how Blizzard betrayed us.
Congratulations to Activision and Blizzard for such an achievement, it doesn't take a lot to be mediocre, but to reach the bottom it truly requires a hatred again humanity not many people would be capable of.
EA has tough competition for shittiest company of the year.
Activision Blizzard is speed running “worst company” trying to dethrone Electronic Arts! /s
@@MichaelPohoreski EA laying low did them a huge favour after Battlefront 2! Afterwards Bethesda fucked up with Fallout 76, Blizzard with Diablo Immortal and China+Hongkong+Hearthstone (remember guys, China? Hongkong? where are the news?... been real silent) , etc. and some other Companies. Smart move EA! And the games they released since.
Who knows, maybe they'll bounce back to being ok, or even good...
Glow Up EA?
@@MajinObama Oh I do remember the china hongkong stuff. That was actually the start of my personal boycotting of blizzard, and imho, they've done nothing but constantly fuck up ever since.
@@MajinObamaBlizzard: Now with _800%_ (over) value ... /s
The ironic part is if you remove all the P2W bullshit _Diablo Immoral,_ sorry I mean _Diablo Immortal,_ is still a better game then D4.
But yeah, the Blizzard "magic" has been gone for over a decade. Their art department is the only thing saving them.
They only have themselves to blame honestly. I do feel bad for the devs that tried to make a PVE experience but got cut down due to the damn corpos.
Blizzard should have just made a Vermintide esqe Horde mode story mode.
@@michaelknox3715 Tf2 did it.
IMO Blizzard big problem is the endless adding of Heros.
They should have just chose a CORE set and focused everything on that instead of trying to include everyone
@@BlueBDsounds familiar, I wonder what is it. Oh, trying to squeeze 100 operators in fucking R6 Siege.
@@BlueBD I mean you need new characters, that's a big selling point of games like this. Greed has honestly just made that part bad too.
Yeah, but at the same time these devs knew what a terrible company Activision/Blizzard is and they still applied for a job, so you can't really feel that bad.
If i toke a glass of Wine everytime i hear "Review bombing" from a corporate response i would be in clinical alcoholic coma and in debt.
its their scape goat
I'd be more dead myself...
its like yeah Im sure if it were 2k negative reviews out of nowhere it would make sense but how can they not realize that this is quite literally just the outcome of releasing half baked reused content while also making the worst decisions game devs could ever make
Single too
I'd be demoman from tf2
As someone who works in manufacturing, I can tell you it’s scary how often I hear the sentence “well we can’t delay the launch.”
Independent Financial Advisor for Start-Ups here. I usually draw up resignation papers once I hear that sentence.
I’m happy Blizzard is finally getting the recognition they deserve 👏
I'm sure they feel an intense sense of achievement over all this recognition!
To me, Blizzard is the WC3 / SC / D/D2 / WOW creators, who were fucking gaming legends, their quality was unparalleled, their fanbase awesome. Blizzard was ruined by greed, and their new stuff is hit or miss. Some games are doing well (WOW) others are not (OW2).
@@S1kTh66 Sure, but WoW had to go on the edge of the abyss of Shadowlands before the devs went _"ok, maybe we should stop f@cking around"._
You get what you fucking deserve
- Some clown from a Super Hero universe
"We have made the courageous decision to keep exploiting and milking our remaining fan base for as much money as possible. Hold your applause." AARON KELLER
A-ARON
It is honestly amazing how these companies are still acting like they did when they had more money than sense coming in, which is short term thinking only. How much money can we squeeze out of the player base before the game is no longer played? Are they going to pull a HotS now and put this in maint mode so they can pull the devs off it to.... I guess do nothing since blizz has nothing going.
@@bobokisama The thing is though time has proven that it _works._ Sure they get hate for it but people still pay, and as long as people pay Blizzard doesn't give a shit what they think.
@@DreamyAileen Possibly.... but that time is drying or dried up. People across the board are really no longer accepting garbage 1/3rd finished games run by micro transactions and greed. CoD hardly sells anymore, WoW is dead, HotS is dead, Heartstone is dead, OW2 was never alive.... people are finally speaking with their wallets, both in gaming and in tv/movies. Not too many companies deserve to close down more than Activision/Blizzard.... maybe Disney or comcast....
@@DreamyAileen I don’t think time is changing that 9% anytime soon.
Something to keep in mind about the "review bombs", that blizzard didn't mention at all, while focusing on not being able to deliver on PvE and the like...
There's a significant chunk that are in chinese. The reason being that blizzard didn't renew their contract with the hosting company for the chinese server, so... china can't play.
Not just Overwatch either, every single one of their games save CoD mobile, which is published by Tencent instead of NetEase in China,
AND not mentioning that their tools for archiving your account progress have reportedly been shoddy so even if / when they ever get the option to return to these games many players will have completely lost all their progress.
@@fenchellforelle Thank you, I knew I was missing something in there.
It’s crazy how they’re just like “What can we do?” As if making an actual pve mode isn’t a solution
They didnt even attempt to make PvE work. They just outright gave up despite using PvE as one of the biggest reason for making OW2.
Funny thing is, OW players made many fun and unique PvE stuff in the workshop of the original game. We had player-made modes that were EXACTLY like the "upgrade your hero with unique abilities" that was promised in OW2.
I think Blizzard doesn't understand that this isn't review bombing, this is how geniuinely everybody feel about the game and can express it without worrying of getting silenced unlike on Blizzard forums
Or in other words - Keller cannot comprehend that he is experiencing something called "Reality Check"
Yup, they are calling it a review bomb in a strategic way to try and make it seem like people are trolling rather than accept their game sucks
After what they pulled off with D4 and this... Sure, many will still buy their games because of the hype, but anyone who doesn't want to be deceived and scammed will avoid anything with their name on it. R.I.P. Blizzard, you will be missed...
Geuinely everybody. Sure bro. How many times do people have to say that a few 1000 people on a review page is A: not always genuine and B: not everybody. The happy players are busy having fun. They don't have time to complain on steam and forums.
@@BewareSIpulled off with D4 like what? Sure the game is not 9/10 GOTY but it is hardly a disaster.
@@Astkestraight copium. D4 and OW2 have been disasters.
It’s response is always tone-deaf. They’re just mad baldurs gate is doing better than a paywall game
no need to bring up bg3. blizzard would have lost without any competition.
@@phibu7517no no I think it's fair... OW2 was at least 4 years in development... Bg3 was 6. The results speak for themselves. People should know this is what blizzard thinks our "expectations" are
not only that the funding and team size are vastly different blizzard/activision is a bahemoth of the gaming industry @@papapawpaw8877
Tbh, I feel bad for BG3 for being more as a word used to combat Blizzard's or Gaming Companies as a whole's tendency to monetize their games which effectively monotoned the quality of their products and boosting negative feedback. It's more of a me thing for not seeing BG3 Recommendations on my UA-cam than also mentioning other games like OW2.
@@luminocuratoria1335 I would disagree. The reason we hoist it so high and use it as a weapon is it should be. That game should be the standard all other companies try to meet. It's mind-blowing. I've put over 100 hours in it and I'm still not done. All that for a 60 dollar fully voiced game with no dlc no microtransactions no roadmap. Just a fully done beautiful game. Now not all games are judged as harshly as blizz games when compared but honestly looking at OW2 and D4 side by side...it's opened my eyes to the greed of blizzard and it's sad. They used to be the bar at which all other games were compared. We are sad because they fell so far. They should be a rival to larian studios. Not this disgusting money hungry machine.
Still waiting for Blizzard to be held LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE for what is OBJECTIVELY false advertising. They fully deserve a class-action lawsuit.
i'm surprised there isn't one yet. Imagine if this was any other industry, this would literally be advertising fraud. But then again, money always wins!
@kangjae2406 yeah I'm shocked too.
Can they really be sued when the game is free? I get that it sucks but its not like people bought it.
@@happyjam92 The game itself is free yes, but Blizzard sold stuff for it before it went out, but I'd reckon a lot of people only bought in because of the promises. In that case, it would still qualify as false advertising
@@happyjam92 I don't think the price matters. They advertised something that will now never happen, and they knew it when they released the game.
Its amazing that the people who make Overwarch pron put in more effort and have more positive reviews then the actual dev team for the game itself
that was one of the bigest reviews on steam! and you are right there!
It’s the only overwatch content worth watching lol
I think this might be the best Overwatch-related comment on the entire internet.
Why are you censoring yourself on the internet? Just say porn
@@brimp4989 Because sometimes the UA-cam algorithm removes comments with certain swears in them.
The funny thing to me is that it has remained 9% the entire time. It was 9% at like 60k reviews and as the number has soared the 9% has not changed.
That is the support from the alphabet people; remember, they dont do logic. Ratio looks about right.
That's not true, it started around 10%, went to 9%, got up as high as 11%, and then fell back down to where it belongs.
@@Heartsatyr im sure it fluctuated somewhat, but i've periodically checked it over the last week or so and every time it has been 9% and the total number of reviews has gone up. Like right now, 9% of 152,850
I appreciate the ackchyually though
@@kangjae2406Gay people hate this trash too dummy
@@kangjae2406Leave it to a Korean to make shit political out of nowhere lmao
I like how they try to soften the blow by saying they’ll add more cosmetics soon. That’s the most basic component in ftp games they are actively digging themselves a hole and pat themselves on the back when it’s done.
and the funniest part is, almost all of these positive reviews are also clowning on the game, they just didnt rate negative
Love how he doesn't mention how alot of people also bring up their use of predatory business practices in their monetization system bleeding consumers dry for every scent they can for old and reused models of skins. One of which as of recent was a battle pass skin recolored for a brand collab
The ones with ‘bring back lootboxes’ crack me up.
Really amazing how Blizzard can one up the until recently the most horrible thing in gaming.
The thing here is the loot boxes were free and if it dropped a duplicate it gave currency to buy what you wanted. Now it's cash or GTFO.
Though with OW2 if loot boxes came back they'd 100% be monetized.
I'd say battlepasses are the most horrible thing that has happened to gaming
I really charmed how Blizzard can do the most moral descision ever, and still screw it up completly in public view. Amazing stuff. Just, like, how...
People were getting most of the cosmetics they wanted from just playing the game instead of giving them thousands of dollars.
This was a great moral problem for them.
The thing is, the lootboxes in OW1 were at least given up at a decent pace and were cosmetic only. So while that is worse than getting the entire content directly, it's still one of the best microtransaction so far.
That's what gets me, they already said they decided in december to cancel hero mode story missions but did not tell players for almost 6 minths, most likely due to shareholder. I am surprised investors have not filed another lawsuit against these crooks at ATVI. Withholding information from investors for six months is definitely illegal.
Story missions costing $15 and not replayable.
maybe they did share their plans to the shareholders, and assured them this new approach will give them more money.
They did tell the shareholders, it’s illegal to lie to share holders like you said you can get sued. However, it is not illegal to lie to costumers (at least in America). So they told shareholders “hey we aren’t gonna do this thing but we’re gonna pretend we are so that way more people will buy the game.” The shareholders were cool with it since it’s no skin off their teeth and it’ll boost their bottom line a bit if Blizzard continued lying about it for a few more months.
Well Blizzard, when you keep ignoring the players, and keep trying your hardest to make this a greedy bottomless pit, how else do you expect for people to tell you we’re not liking what you’re doing!?
I dropped this game MONTHS Ago, and I DO NOT REGRET IT!! Reap what you sow, Blizzard!!
Man, I got tired of the game during the OW1 era on the third year of repeated seasonal events, though it was mainly the community that pushed me away.
Compared to today's Overwatch, that one looked godly.
Here's an idea. Go play Balder's Gate 3. Oh wait, it's not free. Nevermind.
How else? With your wallets. They already got your money. They regret nothing. Sounds like you do, though.
Honestly I was gonna go back to ow2 simply for the new season skins. They look good I guess. Plus the gameplay wasn't horrible enough...
It took me 42 minutes to get into a game. I picked all the roles.
Wtf man.
Maybe it was just the time of day I was playing or the day of the week or something. Still that is annoying as balls. :/
@@munjerkucciImagine being poor and not having enough money to buy a game 😂
Gotta love the AI generated response from blizzard
Soulless corporate speak
It feels like the company has no passion for it at all
@@yomama2376blizzard has never had passion for anything except numbers and money. They were like this ever since world of warcraft
that wasn't just me?
@@agmonblynkos Bit weird to say "never" and then define a specific time, but I don't disagree
Literally changing heroes was the core part of the game. Some heroes are better on attack some on defence, some heroes are OP on some maps and totally useless on others and so on. Imagine playing now and telling your teammate that we need other heroes for better strategy and them saying sorry guys I don't have that hero
You just need to buy it! lol
Just play casually? It's completely normal to have 5 snipers in tf2 and nobody cares.
@@Ironclad404 you can still change mercs while playing and none of then are locked behind a paywall. And the game is 12 v 12 (if i remember correctly) vs overwatch 2's 5 v 5.
@@Ironclad404Similar games, drastically different gameplay
@@Ironclad404 You really support this awful cash grab? No, I will not just "play casually" overwatch was my fav game of all time before this greedy money hungry idiots ruined it. It is not even about the gameplay it is about the message. And the message I got is that they hate us and see us only as a oppertunity to get money
I decided in 2019 to not give Blizzard another dollar and they've honestly been making that really easy for me. It's honestly sad to how much my favorite developer has fallen.
Same. I convinced myself that despite all the evidence, W3 was going to be good. I was brutally proven wrong. That was OFFENSIVE to actual Blizzard fans.
I was forced to face facts. Blizzard is dead. Everything that made them great is long gone. It's Activision Blizzard now, and always will be.
I've been disliking Blizzard since 2010 so I'm glad the world is finally waking up to that.
EA, Blizzard and Ubisoft. All brands that are boycotted.
I haven't even played any of my old blizzard games that I already own ever since the blitzchung incident. Incredible that in all that time they still haven't improved at all. Just bad choices on bad choices on bad choices.
@@antonythornton1 boicotted
I hate how any mass criticism of a game (or any other media) is always deflected by calling it "review bombing" as if it's impossible for a large number of players to legitimately dislike a game.
Also I like how the PvE was "to ambitious" as if we're talking about a small indie startup and not a multibillion dollar company. The PvE was very much within their capability it's just that they didn't want to put the money into it.
It's not that they didn't want to put the money into it. It's more a matter of "why release a full PvE campaign for $40 when we can bust it up into multiple parts for fifteen bucks a pop?"
It's just Activision being Activision, nothing more, nothing less.
Why make a campaign if youtubers and people are dumb enough to already buy 100$+ in currency for cosmetics and battle passes. Just keep on milking
It's the pre order problem. You get sold "Help us fund the game and develop it!" Then a Corp accountant takes a look. and goes. "Hey, I have a great idea. Lets pocket the money, without THE DEVELOPMENT. And fire our developers to make MORE money and money and the qa too. why not? They tried to falsely advertise currencies and pcs content too and only released the beta content when people pointed out the beta content already existed. They re used orisa as a boss too. Twice, no less.
They can call it a review bomb, but so what if they do? The reviews are still legitimate because it's a bomb of their own making, and they set it off themselves.
@@midoribookstore the issue is what review bombing means: "to manipulate an online rating system with a semiorganized campaign of unfavorable user reviews, often as a general statement of disapproval for a creator, a publisher, or other business, rather than a genuine opinion about a specific product or experience." In other words calling it review bombing is essentially saying all the negative reviews are just internet trolls and nobody actually has this opinion.
Blizzard really doesn't seem to understand the situation they're in with this game. There is an incredibly simple solution to at least start to change the perception of OW2, and it's just putting these story missions out for free. It would get significant amounts of people coming back to the game because they don't have to shell out even more money, and they would be coming back to a relatively positive experience. They can't have made so much money with these missions that it wouldn't be worth the investment to get people to not have only negative feeling towards the game.
They do understand. They just don’t care since suckers still support them
If you still play Blizzard games, stfu and take it
They don't even understand the diablo 4 situation. They'll continue take a dump in the mouths of the players if you let them
This. I bought OW2 for the PvE, I literally paid money for this product back at launch. The fact I already paid the price of the game and now they’re asking me to pay MORE just to play the game I ALREADY PURCHASED is ridiculous. This isn’t some special DLC pack adding bonus content to the game, it’s something that was advertised years ago and something I already bought months ago. When I buy call of duty I don’t need to spend an extra 15 bucks to get access to the campaign, when I buy baldurs gate I don’t need to spend 15 bucks to get access to coop, when I buy armored core I won’t need to spend 15 bucks to get access to PvP. This is advertised as part of the initial purchase, I expect it to be included
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And remember they took away over watch one so all the people who were waiting for OW2 and are disappointed have nowhere to scratch their itch.
As always, the modern gaming industry isn't about making games for consumers to play. It's about companies finding ways to play the consumers.
That's always been the case since forever, they've always made games for profit and sometimes not in a good way. Overpriced cheap half effort games have been existence for almost 50 years.
They are making games for consumers to pay.
The US in a nutshell
Eh, only half 'n half. At least back in the day, people acknowledged that good games are what actually sell well.@@kicapanmanis1060
@@kicapanmanis1060 was Half Life an half effort game? or Counter Strike? or Left 4 Dead? or Crysis? Amnesia? Minecraft? Payday? GTA? Doom?
Maybe some specific developers were doing it for the money alone, but back then, the only reason you were paying for the game was to support future games from those people and to allow them to make a living out of it, not to give the CEO of those companies a f*cking vault full of money to swim into.
That's used to NOT be the case, and i'm tired of pretending it was.
I love how their answer to all this is promising to keep adding more junk to buy. Like its some special gift to the players, and not the entire purpose of the game in the first place.
I once heard that this game was not Overwatch two, but more like Overwatch too. And every time I hear about it, I am reminded of this and how much it's becoming more and more true.
Lmao
Oh it's definitely Overwatch Too, now with shittier monetization
Bars
I remember a video showing a handful of reviews and one of them said "Welcome to Steam, Blizzard - here's all the honest reviews" and that could not be any truer
When the primary scoring metric is based off of the community, you're bound to get utterly f u c k e d if your game continuing a popular IP is bad, there's no paying off the reviewers in that situation
"we're definitely gonna learn from this. totally. please give us your money we promise we'll be better. how? shh just buy more battle passes and don't think about it too hard."
Discount Dan's number one Game Studio
Never gonna trust a guy who said he would be more transparent and proceed to hide and lie about PvE being canceled .
Yeah, that they knew it was getting cut a good month+ before release and didn’t say anything until like 2 months AFTER release was very modern blizzard.
They say they wanted to make the game more accessable, but werent they the people who required your phone number to make an account and excluded certain providers?
A phone number requirement which they said when setting up an account was optional, and yet forced you to put in the optional phone number?
@@thefiresworddragon927
Well for new players it wasnt (and to my knowledge still isnt) optional.
People who played OW1 apparently dont need one tho.
They're trying to play 2 sides. The side that reduces cheating and smurfs by requiring a phone number per account, and the other side that provides a game "accessible" to everyone, except for when it isn't.
@@RemedieX
Well no offense, but thats the most bullsh*t way to stop cheating and smurfs considering it encluded everyone without a phone contract (like prepaid) and even certain contracts.
Then again I have to thank blizzard for doing it, because it kept me from trying out this (now mess of a) game.
@@RemedieX Lol phone number doesnt effect cheaters at all either. Is 50 cents to have a fake number ping you back. Also just look how many youtubers have 10 accounts for "challenges (smurfing)".
I was really excited by the idea of customizing hero's weapons & skill trees. I would have definitely returned and kept playing if Blizzard (Activision) had delivered. But no, I only played Overwatch 2 once and haven't picked it back up since.
I just KNEW they were going to call it "review bombing" and cry to Valve about it. They just can't understand their game sucks and no one plays it 🤣
Numbers are going down,but people are playing it. Steam has over 20k regular players. Thats the problem though. People whine and complain while still partaking in these "services". Its the same all over gaming. Blizzard will burn, but a few/couple of years away yet.
IT LITTERALLY IS A REVIEW BOMB THOUGH HOLY SHIT
IT LITTERALLY IS A REVIEW BOMB THOUGH HOLY SHIT
@@N0pr0fitbecause Blizzards censorship reviews on their own website. Now on a third-party website, people can finally share how they feel, especially getting scam to those who actually be forced to pay for the same game called a "sequel"
@@N0pr0fitcope
We don’t want more skins, we want more quality of life and bug fixes
@@SpekUL8Gamescool enjoy eating your shit. The rest of us actually want quality content.
Or how about some actual content!
@@SpekUL8GamesSome of us played the game for years putting a "2" in front of it does not a new game make.
@@SpekUL8Games Go play Barbie Dress Up on mobile, I'm pretty sure the monetization would be a lot fairer and you can mix and match!
@@SpekUL8Gamesyou’re the reason why we gotta pay for skins
Gotta give them credit, Overwatch 2 did the impossible - it made me miss lootboxes
Wtf 😂😂😂
I mean, you're not wrong. Overwatch 1 had the BEST lootbox system in the entire industry. You consistently got them and were able to open them for free, and if you wanted more in bundles, that's when you can start shelling out the cold hard cash.
Larion releases Baldur's Gate 3, a full package game with 400 people at the studio, and yet here's Blizzard, with many times more people, not even able to release a single player mode in a multiplayer game. They can barely manage an update to their game, and yet people are surprised that devs of various studios don't want BG3 to be the new standard of quality with no shit stains of microtransactions smeared across it.
here is my prediction: They will put in a little bit more content in the next mission pack, or maybe even make a really good one. But then they will also increase the price to something like 20 bucks on either that pack or the next one because "the costs are just way too high".
I didn't quit over lack of content. I play ow for the competitive play, leading random to victory through positive comedic showmanship, it's like a drug needing to do that daily. I quit because of the battle pass and that alone. I enjoyed overwatch because it was sold as "a 1 time buy. We will never charge you for any updates or any DLC." That was THEIR words after OW1 beta success.
If there was a way to earn characters without the pass, I'd, grind my teeth but that's acceptable. But to completely hide the most op characters behind the BP has made the game 100% P2W and I am just against that completely and after supporting this company since 97, giving them...way more money than I ever should (I've never spent money on cosmetics anything ever. Only like name changes, transfers and subscription money) it just has become far to personal which I believe a massive chunk of their fan base understands deeply. Blizzard, I thought, was realizing how they could become number 1 again with a business model surrounding OW but they just hard leaned away from so many ideas like the OW skinned style MMORPG they talked about that we the fans said "hey, make that game, not OW2, were good the games perfect." Ughhh...watching giants topple has become exhausting.
And they'll complain about the costs being too high while having record profits
jokes on you they will add nothing, the missions will be the same, 20 minutes, two cutscenes, no replay value, and still they will incrase the price
I’m making this prediction before watching the video.
Blizzard said they would do better in the future. They promised they would change the game and listen to player feedback. They promised to add more to the game. They gave no hint of when or showed nothing to back up their statements.
I’m starting to get used to the “we’ll fix it for you later. We promise you!” line that they keep using.
Not even that. They said "Oh no!. Anyway"
@guyincle126 Don’t even start me on preorders. That’s been the downfall of the industry as soon as it happened. Devs became lazy as soon as that crap appeared. This is something that really annoys the hell outta me and the people that do this.
And beta tests have become sales models to make people pay in order to beta test the game after they bought it. Usually turns into a messy state once released and devs start to tinker. The Diablo 4 stash tab fiasco is a prime example of everything I said here.
@guyincle126is the pre order free if free its worth it
I played Overwatch 1 a lot, even bought some of the funko pops of characters in the game. Once I heard Overwatch 2 was going free to play , I was weary about it. And well with the monetization and the scrapping of what it was suppose to be pve wise I didn't even give the game a try. I ended up going to another hero shooter that I played a bit, and that is Paladins. And honestly the way you can customize how you play your characters more in Paladins, is a lot of fun.
Estrogen plastic enjoyer spotted
@@vladey96tater tot detected. Opinion rejected
Of which are characters are these funko pops? 🤨
@@Rubenz343 Lucio, Junkrat, Torbjörn, and Ashe.
They don't even care if its the #1 most hated game on steam. They just care about the smallest influx of people playing the game now because of that possible up in money from that influx. This company is so disgusting its almost impressive.
and then holocure shows up on steam, a free vampire survivors clone with hololive vtubers, and gets more daily players than OW2. now THATS a big yikes.
People who might think that the reviews are being too negative need to realize that they took down Overwatch 1. They said ‘’The game you have paid $60 for and possibly spent even more in micro transactions will no longer exist, but we think it is worth it because you will get a new better version of the game instead.’’ And then they made a worse version with somehow even worse microtransactions and none of the promises kept
I had so much fun playing overwatch when it was first released. Crazy to see the state of it.
How they thought gutting the game of content and slapping a 2 on it would excite people is beyond me, they really think we are that dumb. And the audacity to call the criticism "review bombing" and say "well, we can't turn back the clock" all of the overwatch players are wishing they could turn back the clock to when the game was actually good.
Watching Blizzard take L after L is both satisfying and disappointing at the same time. They deserve every bit of the negative feedback they get, but at some point I'd like to see them pull their head out of their ass and actually do better for a change. I don't believe that's going to happen, but it'd sure be nice.
They can't do better. Those people are gone, and now the corpse of Blizzard is being manipulated by corporate executives interested in selling micro transactions from their online services. And they're doing that pretty well, despite gamers being unhappy.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 I'm sure there's still people in Blizzard that still care about the games they make. It's weird to have this irrational hatred of everyone working at Blizzard when they're just trying to work under a company douche Bobby Kotnik.
Very very briefly, there was a glimmer of hope with Dragonflight. Its initial launch was pretty good, Diablo 4s beta seemed promising. It seemed like they were finally listening and focusing on the player experience after failing for so long.... then it turned into a false hope. Diablo 4 turned into an elaborate cash grab. The WoW team is still not working on fixing the many issues that keep new players away.
@@BeastiezCyZ There are bound to be developers that still care, sure. But the talents that originally made them into such a well loved company in the first place have either all gone, or have effectively lost all creative power over what Blizzard makes. Blizzard at this point is basically just a brand name that is used to help sell people on nostalgia, without having the development or company fundamentals that actually make them able to make great games without massive greed taking over.
Nobody should ever blame the average developer for this sort of thing, though. Blizzard games are still mechanically competent for the most part - the developers are obviously doing their best - but the monetization and greed are very obviously poisoning everything that they do, and I'm not going to respect Blizzard as a company when so mismanaged.
In any case, at this point Blizzard has been dead and gone for a long time.
I would argue their death throes began around the time they merged with Activision after their break-out success with World of Warcraft, and they basically have been on life support since them. With Overwatch being a rare exception of an actually good game since then (though it brought with it loot boxes and other things that were definitely not ideal). Anyone holding out hope that the Blizzard many of us knew and loved is going to somehow "come back" at this point (even after the constant botching of things like their Diablo series, Warcraft "Reforged," World of Warcraft, and now Overwatch) is living in a delusion.
@@BeastiezCyZ Yeah, some people care, but they're not the OGs who were doing great things with Blizzard, and they're hamstrung by corporate, so how much good can that care really do? And they're apparently not great enough yet to ditch the corporate baggage and do their own work independently or with a studio that isn't a corporate-piloted-Blizzard-skinsuit.
Include pve in the bp, make past and present bp tracks accessible whenever you want and allow us to earn shop items for free. Monetisation fixed, simple as. Them being able to sell past seasons would be huge for them. It's a win win.
I'm so glad you spoke up on this, i've been covering the game for 10 months on tiktok and every time they make one of these posts they feel the same,
it's so robotic and when this post should've been something more to bring back players or mend any wounds from the mangling and morphing of OW1 into OW2 they just didn't.
if there was ever a time to take some accountability and spark a fire under their asses and instill confidence in the future of overwatch it was with their response to the review bombing,
and they said the same crap they've been saying "we'll work on it"
I feel so bad for the overwatch fans because now there's this new group of players who think this game is fine as is when players who have been around the block still know that a lot of things in this game have been downscaled/removed/ruined because of this monetization plan.
The phrasing of their reply implies that the cancellation of the hero missions was announced in 2019 not that the hero missions were announced in 2019 and then cancelled recently.
Very sneaky, Activision Blizzard.
Overwatch 1 was also my go-to game, it meant a lot to me with all the time and money spent to collect cosmetics, develop my meager skills with the game, and just have something fun to play when i've had a shitty day. Having heroes behind the battle pass was a sad moment. I said goodbye to my favorite game, the one I couldn't stop talking about with friends and co-workers. When you have to let go of something that was such a part of you it really sucks and cuts deep. I've lost all trust with Blizzard.
I'm so happy to see this... it means the consumer has power in this industry; at least for now.
Blizzard is asking for it. They always shutting down criticisms and call outs in battlenet. Now they get the taste of losing that kind of control
Don’t give up guys! Make sure to never buy anything, skins or missions!
I've cut off Activision/Blizzard entirely. Not buying nor supporting anything from that evil company ever again.
Whenever you need a reminder check out their other IPs states as well.
Diablo 4 is maybe worse in player value per $ (apparently in the loot game diablo, all the new different cosmetic armors are in the paid shop)
Wow is getting people mad about monetization of tenders
CoD and hearthstone also have some bad practices now too
Whenever I get tempted I just search for news about one of these games to remind myself it wont get better because the whole thing is infected.
Buying an extra skin in your honor
@@shelbyrenshaw8136 buy one for your imaginary friends too
@@shelbyrenshaw8136loser
It’s not so much that Blizzard was unable to realize the Hero Missions they promised. They were perfectly capable, the higher ups just didn’t care an ounce enough about the players or the IP to deliver
The weirdest thing to me is that they can't seem to meet what was standard practice for a shooter back in the days of the X-box 360. For the longest time shooters were sold with a singleplayer campaign alongside a multiplayer mode (normally half a dozen multiplayer modes really), but suddenly that's too ambitious? Of course there were shooters like team fortress and counter strike that didn't but they also never claimed that they did to drive up sales, this really feels like a super deceptive marketing strategy and I'm wondering if there's a case to be made for false advertising.
Even splatoon had a fairly robust singleplayer campaign, and it still has one! The main focus might be the multiplayer, but in order to be an esport, games have to be complete games first!
I can’t even remember which game it was anymore but this instantly reminds of a few years back when another major game was PANNED by users and some industry folk were discussing whether or not user reviews should even be allowed because users expressing their feelings on a product just doesn’t really work when you say what you really have to say.
I'm talking about nearly every game/movie/TV show that has been released and was generally regarded as bad.
Take your pick, there are plenty of options
Probably evolve or no man's sky but thats just a guess.
@@DevelonLPNo Mans Sky actually took the negative reviews on the chin and fixed their game so I don't think it was them
@@statuyuprobably battlefield
I love how Sakurai included the most ambitious crossover story campaign of all time in Brawl when no one asked for it.
But Blizzard is like Waaaah! this is too hard.
For some reason i read the waaah as waluigi
@@ztriker4406and it fits so well too 😂
Subspace emissary was dogshit tho
Ambitious? Sure but still dogshit
Smash sucks ass
From my personal opinion. The core gameplay is there and is still fun. But the anger stims from Blizzard being greedy bastards.
Also from some of the changes from overwatch 1 that you cant avoid since they got rid of overwatch 1
Like couldnt they add a "classic" mode or something
The game is amazing just mismanaged. I loved playing OW2, my favorite characters have been changed in good ways.
@@colin3ds1 Dont even start, just let blizzard die man. Things are shitty because people allow it to be.
True, but the core gameplay exists since Overwatch 1. Now, it's OW2 we're talking about. it's expected to have core from OW1 and more. But we don't really get the "more" part. Instead, we get the greedier version of OW1.
@@hug-the-raccoon Exactly, gamers need to let go of this race-to-the-bottom mentality of "well, at least the core gameplay is still there". That's the bare minimum STARTING POINT for a sequel, not a selling point. If I wanted just the core gameplay why the fuck would I buy a sequel when I can just play the first one (which blizzard cut off entirely for this exact reason; thank god I barely got into OW).
The fact that I PAYED for overwatch one, they CHARGE ME for something that I already BOUGHT?! *I ALREADY WASTED 40$ ON THIS GAME AND NOW YOUR CHARGING ME FOR A STORY MODE THAT I SHOULD’VE GOTTEN FOR FREE?!!!*
What. The. Fuck?
That was a good honest summary of the sentiment of the game. If you're a core player who buys the battle pass anyways the story missions were enjoyable - I liked them, but they were by no means revolutionary and not enough to re-capture players who have previously quit.
i like boys
Blizzard already stopped caring about their reputation. They just want player count to rise to increase sales and it worked.
Remember that their message is not for the gamers who are mad, they have given up on them and aren't even bothered trying to do any good for them.
The message is for the non-gamers, and they are trying to paint gamers as this unreasonable bunch who are still mad after all the "hard work" they are doing in a slimy attempt to shift blame.
Of course. That's what they always do
so wait... they announced a feature... that was their main reason to can overwatch 1, or rather main excuse, and was the reason they resold that game AGAIN (ain't really much of a two more of a 1.2 kinda update) but they KNEW they weren't gonna deliver and cancel said feature that was hyped to hell and back. because it could "impact sales" ..... what is it called again if you sell someone on a product you know and plan to not deliver... something with an F ...... rhymes with baut and is normally considered illegal in most countries :T how are they getting away with it.