Thank you, Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy for being a voice of reason and courage in a country like Pakistan, where Religious fanaticism is too high. Pakistan 🇵🇰 would have been a better place if the leaders & majority of the masses were like you.
The best Lecture I've ever heard from him. Pervez Hoodbhoy sahab, please keep doing this. Let the frustration out and tell people when they're wrong. No more idling and defending a person's right to believe complete nonsense for the sake of their feelings. We need to assert science as -- by far -- the ultimate authority for truth because nothing else begins to compare to it.
It's the peer review in the Realm of Science that makes it a successful way of looking at the world. Sometimes a really smart/clever person who speaks eloquently can sway people to do stupid things because no one checks if what they're saying is true.
THIS is why when we were in the Stone Ages. We actually thought. We created critical thinking. We realized that worshipping something isn't the best answer. We realized praying to a God doesn't stop sickness, it doesn't stop death. It doesn't make your problems go away. It didn't stop the Plague, flood, drought and other natural disasters, and people EVERYWHERE were praying nonstop! To think, If there had not been a scientific revolution & Evolution of Scientific & Rational temperament , we would never have made progress. we'd still be stuck without electricity, without basic medicine, without any of our basic inventions. We'd be doomed.
Great ! Professor Pervez, you are one of the rarest intelligentsia in the Islamic world. The insight you have in the mysteries of the existence is incomparable! Keep it up sir !! It is very strange that although the number of audience in the hall is very little but most of them are very intelligent and they are behaving better than international and audience of the developed countries.. I also salute them for their questions ! This topic of science as the ultimate source of knowledge is very very interesting and mind boggling. I request you to deliver one lecture on the age old riddle.... Is there any purpose of human life and consciousness and if you find one what is that? Thanks.
I totally agree with that blue t-shirt guy, ' Science does not have the answer to all our problems ' but Science has the questions to all our problems. The answers science provides to all those questions are often misused & inconvenient to politics. ( as he said the misuse of the Theory E = MC² to make Atom bombs rather than to use it for nuclear energy. )
Hi Doc, great series / initiative. Such a shame though that such a small number of people are in the room. I'd expect you to fill an entire auditorium. Are people just not listening or are they refusing to?
Hum bahut khush hai, kyonki jo deemag wale the wh bharat mein rah gaye.. Ye achha hua ki jo uddhaar gaye wh yahan nhi... Varna ye mulk bhi Pakistan ho jata...
Moral is game of mind in a particular society. If if fits in that particular you are good at moralities. It also vary with religious thoughts which are uniform throughout that particular followers
Someone probably mentioned this but like a smart person once said. It doesn't matter if you believe in science or not because it still works, exists, relevant and happens regardless of faith.
Actually their is no believe in science , you only accept science on basis of evidence..... Believe : well you cant question it you have to accept it without questioning but you can question sciecne.....
It’s non-intuitive to understand that all this complexity is just natural and no intervention of any being is required, it’s much much simpler and easier for humans to believe that some being did it magically, especially when we are indoctrinated to believe from a very early age by your parents, teachers, leaders, elders practically everyone. And if we don’t conform to your parents religions then you can be shunned, disowned and possibly harmed. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, ,, ,
When people talk about reconciling science and religion, that is only an issue with people who have preconceived ideas, but scientists cannot/should-not have preconceived ideas they must believe the evidence. All scientific models must conform to NATURE or REALITY, If there is any tiny evidence for some unnatural forces then they must include that in their papers/thesis and account for it. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist , , , ,
It took me a very very long time to understand evolution, but I wanted the truth no matter what it turned out to be , after tons of research on evolution I found out it’s over 500% percent true, because soo many independent fields of biological sciences especially Genetics, Paleontology, Archiology, Geology, Embryology, Anthropolgy, Sociology, Psycology. . . . . sciences prove it to be true. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
Many people who convert to Islam or revert back to Christianity is because religious organizations provide a sense of community, comradely, fellowship and a sense of belonging. These powerful emotional needs are fulfilled, even if religions are not historically and scientifically accurate or just myths. "ignorance is a bliss" Matrix-quote. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,, ,
Standard of morality must not account for religious belief, scientific tempar .Simply avoid arrohance, ego, inferiority, supwriority and many gjostly quality to be an honest person . These are the basic and natural requirements to achiebe morale.
Knowledge is 100 percent believe but science is like riding a bycyle 50 percent reality and 50 percent imagination and imagination is logic limit A to Z
Short answer: science is definitely a way to know the physical world, but applying it on human beings and societies is not appropriate and even dangerous.
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin/Thor or any other mythology. Choosing to major in theology or becoming a scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
@@PS-ej2xn I really appreciate you brother, your believe on Islam as complete دین, now people are more materialistic, and rationalists, they used their unstructured world view to explain the ultimate reality, and this is where they made a mistake , on other hand religion is inner experience, for modern men it is difficult to achieve this inner experience.
@@PS-ej2xn Anything which is not mentioned in Qur'an, Hadith or other basic religious books. Like politics, economy and other social sciences plus the most important - STEM. Even literature is not part of Islam.
The 2nd thing is u are gratifying the modern day science without telling and elaborating the destruction of this same science in the sense of environmental crisis, the unchecked technological advancement ,the effects of technology produced with the help of modern day science in effect of which we are having more and more unhappy societies across the globe , And the crisis of inequality in the world .My sire when ever u speak so highly of modern day science plz elaborate such things as well so the people can see the both sides of the coin 🪙 . All of these things are interlinked the young lads don't think about the other aspects when they are listening the benefits of modern day science from you .Peace be upon you
Sir i want to join this show, I am from Gujranwala Pakistan. professionally i am an accountant at Master Tiles but have deep interest in Physics, Cosmology and still learning from the intellectuals broadcast like yours.. so i will greatly apricate if you give me a chance to visit live lecture, specially on "General Theory of Relativity" Which i still waiting...
Sir you can watch this from UA-cam. What extra benefit it can give you if you attend his session physically in Islamabad. If you have interest in science, you can take admission in science course in your nearest university.
@@theobserver7639 sir I am so curious about General theory, space time curvature with time dilation, so during your lecture it's quite easy to ask question directly to Respected Pervaiz Sab, Personally I really admire his rational views and follow him the time of VU video lectures.. So! I am matured and don't have time now to attend regular studies again, so I tried to follow Roger Penrose, Brain Greene and like others professor to understand why we and the universe exists. Anyways Thanks for your response too.
@Shared Cosmos (Urdu) I've saved playlists of Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy's Physics lectures if you want I can share that with you. BTW, if you're particularly interested in cosmology /Astronomy you can watch Salman Hameed's channel " *Kainaat Astronomy in Urdu* " He is a Pakistani Astrophysicist working in the field of cosmology in the United States 🇺🇲.
I see you are a science enthusiast , if you want to physically attend Dr Pervez hoodbhoy sahab's Lecture, You can register yourself at the " Blackhole islamabad " W-site. the session is free and open to all. Topic of the next Lecture - " *Asteroid-Earth Collisions - How To Prevent? By Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy* " Date And Time : Saturday, October 1, 2022 @ 07: 00 PM to 08: 30 PM
Agree with you, science is not the only way, but people like Hoodbey Sahab believe in scienctism, if X is any entity, and we can experience this through five senses or we can task this X, through empirical formula, then X is real, this is how they believe on such reality.
@@PS-ej2xn wisdom and science are two seperate things. Science means something very specific. If Islam have such scientific knowledge then tell me from Quran how can we make an aeroplane. 😂
I always want to pull my hair and bang my head against a wall when listening to a theist……. But then I clearly remember before I was an atheist I thought similarly, constant childhood indoctrination is a b1tch and very difficult to get over. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist. ,,, ,
Dr Hoodbhoy, you are quoting Alama Iqbal who was himself a liar and became responsible for the killing of millions and destroyed India at the time of partition. Actually Pakistan’s birth is the implementation of Iqbal by Jinnah?
I don't agree with hating the biggest victims of Islam the 'Muslims', and Islamic dogma is not any worse then the Christian dogma, the big difference is that Christians reformed their original dogma and no longer closely follow their original scriptures. both religions selectively only preach scriptures which is accepted by modern standards and no longer preach the crazy and horrific scriptures and versus. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
That's the biggest problem with people trying to mislead Muslims. They don't understand that Islam came first, and then from Islam was born all true science. So any genuine study of science must entail mastering of the teachings of Islam first. Otherwise, this is the path of kufr.
اپ پاکستان کیلئے ایک اثاثہ ہیں میری ایک گزارش ہے آ پ سائنسی موضوعات تک اپنے آ پ کو محدود رکھیں مذہب،فلسفہ اور شاعری پر نہ بولا کریں پھر آ پ ہر قسم کی تنقید کی زد میں آ جاتے ہیں۔
@@PS-ej2xn not at all, I am saying one should be there to explain the other side of the picture too... Suppose he is talking on religious beliefs then one must be there to counter that side as well
Dr sahaaab ye aapki ghalat fehmi hy Allama iqbal ny kabhi ye nahein kaha ke asal ilam ilhamee hy balke wo is baat pe zor de raha tha ke tum log jo kehte ho ke asal ilam science hy to mehrabani kejei asala ilam science nahein hy, mtlab ilhameee ilam bhi zarooree hy kaiynaat ko smajhne keli,,
Thank you, Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy for being a voice of reason and courage in a country like Pakistan, where Religious fanaticism is too high. Pakistan 🇵🇰 would have been a better place if the leaders & majority of the masses were like you.
Pakistanis don't want to be like you. Thank you very much.
The best Lecture I've ever heard from him. Pervez Hoodbhoy sahab, please keep doing this. Let the frustration out and tell people when they're wrong. No more idling and defending a person's right to believe complete nonsense for the sake of their feelings. We need to assert science as -- by far -- the ultimate authority for truth because nothing else begins to compare to it.
ua-cam.com/video/W0y7Mi34fq4/v-deo.html
It's the peer review in the Realm of Science that makes it a successful way of looking at the world. Sometimes a really smart/clever person who speaks eloquently can sway people to do stupid things because no one checks if what they're saying is true.
THIS is why when we were in the Stone Ages. We actually thought. We created critical thinking. We realized that worshipping something isn't the best answer. We realized praying to a God doesn't stop sickness, it doesn't stop death. It doesn't make your problems go away. It didn't stop the Plague, flood, drought and other natural disasters, and people EVERYWHERE were praying nonstop! To think, If there had not been a scientific revolution & Evolution of Scientific & Rational temperament , we would never have made progress. we'd still be stuck without electricity, without basic medicine, without any of our basic inventions. We'd be doomed.
Still in humanity we're at the bottom level.
Great ! Professor Pervez, you are one of the rarest intelligentsia in the Islamic world. The insight you have in the mysteries of the existence is incomparable! Keep it up sir !! It is very strange that although the number of audience in the hall is very little but most of them are very intelligent and they are behaving better than international and audience of the developed countries.. I also salute them for their questions ! This topic of science as the ultimate source of knowledge is very very interesting and mind boggling. I request you to deliver one lecture on the age old riddle.... Is there any purpose of human life and consciousness and if you find one what is that? Thanks.
I totally agree with that blue t-shirt guy, ' Science does not have the answer to all our problems ' but Science has the questions to all our problems. The answers science provides to all those questions are often misused & inconvenient to politics. ( as he said the misuse of the Theory E = MC² to make Atom bombs rather than to use it for nuclear energy. )
30:46 Next Pervez Hoodbhoy in Making 😎
1:26:50 chotu hoodbhoy
“The good thing about science ⚛ is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
Science is the better way to know everything about us.
Because in science no blind faith, no correption no rigidity ,
Hi Doc, great series / initiative. Such a shame though that such a small number of people are in the room. I'd expect you to fill an entire auditorium. Are people just not listening or are they refusing to?
I am happy to see that young boy taking part and making other bit uneasy, it's a good sign... Inshallah
Hum bahut khush hai, kyonki jo deemag wale the wh bharat mein rah gaye.. Ye achha hua ki jo uddhaar gaye wh yahan nhi... Varna ye mulk bhi Pakistan ho jata...
Iqbal was the guy who wrote both, “ Sare Jahan se achcha Hindostan hamara” and later the Milli Tarana too”.
A thought provoking session. Thanks Pervaiz Sahib for such a nice session.
Moral is game of mind in a particular society. If if fits in that particular you are good at moralities. It also vary with religious thoughts which are uniform throughout that particular followers
Love your lecture -from India
Someone probably mentioned this but like a smart person once said. It doesn't matter if you believe in science or not because it still works, exists, relevant and happens regardless of faith.
Sir i am excited to see your name in the comment box.you are a great scientist.
Nonsense. Nothing exists without Islam.
@@TULSIBALA He is just random gay, Carl sagan is no more with us.
Actually their is no believe in science , you only accept science on basis of evidence..... Believe : well you cant question it you have to accept it without questioning but you can question sciecne.....
It’s non-intuitive to understand that all this complexity is just natural and no intervention of any being is required, it’s much much simpler and easier for humans to believe that some being did it magically, especially when we are indoctrinated to believe from a very early age by your parents, teachers, leaders, elders practically everyone. And if we don’t conform to your parents religions then you can be shunned, disowned and possibly harmed. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, ,, ,
When people talk about reconciling science and religion, that is only an issue with people who have preconceived ideas, but scientists cannot/should-not have preconceived ideas they must believe the evidence. All scientific models must conform to NATURE or REALITY, If there is any tiny evidence for some unnatural forces then they must include that in their papers/thesis and account for it. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist , , , ,
I really like your sessions. I wish more and more people come and attend the lectures.
It took me a very very long time to understand evolution, but I wanted the truth no matter what it turned out to be , after tons of research on evolution I found out it’s over 500% percent true, because soo many independent fields of biological sciences especially Genetics, Paleontology, Archiology, Geology, Embryology, Anthropolgy, Sociology, Psycology. . . . . sciences prove it to be true. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
Many people who convert to Islam or revert back to Christianity is because religious organizations provide a sense of community, comradely, fellowship and a sense of belonging. These powerful emotional needs are fulfilled, even if religions are not historically and scientifically accurate or just myths. "ignorance is a bliss" Matrix-quote. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,, ,
1:07:20 True & Harsh face of Islam ☪️ exposed 😳
Watched 1:47:00
شاندار کام کر رہے ہیں آپ ❤
Very informative and creative lecture.
Of course ! Science is the key to the mystery of the Universe.
No nation could develop without the help of Science.
Excellent talk 👍
Standard of morality must not account for religious belief, scientific tempar .Simply avoid arrohance, ego, inferiority, supwriority and many gjostly quality to be an honest person . These are the basic and natural requirements to achiebe morale.
The question is sir what would have happened 🤔 if Muslims at that time haven't asked the questions like these
Knowledge is 100 percent believe but science is like riding a bycyle 50 percent reality and 50 percent imagination and imagination is logic limit A to Z
i respectfully agree to disagree with whatever your perceptions about great Iqbal are.
Assalam o aleikum. Dr. Parvaiz Sir can we talk? Didn't find your contact or email. Please reply. Regards Dr. Asim Mehmood.
Tittle should be Religion V/s Science.
I m big fan of pervez haheeb
आप साइंस की बड़ी सेवा कर रहे हैं आप को मेरा शुकराना
Short answer: science is definitely a way to know the physical world, but applying it on human beings and societies is not appropriate and even dangerous.
Hamare hinduon ke 33crores bhagwaan hai ... Aur 84 crore ka phera hai... After going through 84 crores of life we become human...
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin/Thor or any other mythology. Choosing to major in theology or becoming a scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
Why the people asking religious questions in science class? They are totally different domain. I wonder!!!
These are so called Pakistani seculars.
When you ask them: Dark matter exists?
They : Religion is root cause of every problem in this world.
Different domains? Can you explain what falls outside the domain of Islam?
@@PS-ej2xn I really appreciate you brother, your believe on Islam as complete دین, now people are more materialistic, and rationalists, they used their unstructured world view to explain the ultimate reality, and this is where they made a mistake , on other hand religion is inner experience, for modern men it is difficult to achieve this inner experience.
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Anything which is not mentioned in Qur'an, Hadith or other basic religious books. Like politics, economy and other social sciences plus the most important - STEM. Even literature is not part of Islam.
Indian history is mostly based on science The first is the O. Science from Bananan Republic of Pakisstan is known as JIHAAD.
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The 2nd thing is u are gratifying the modern day science without telling and elaborating the destruction of this same science in the sense of environmental crisis, the unchecked technological advancement ,the effects of technology produced with the help of modern day science in effect of which we are having more and more unhappy societies across the globe , And the crisis of inequality in the world .My sire when ever u speak so highly of modern day science plz elaborate such things as well so the people can see the both sides of the coin 🪙 . All of these things are interlinked the young lads don't think about the other aspects when they are listening the benefits of modern day science from you .Peace be upon you
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Dr. Hoodbhoy explains well. He is a respected scholar. He is wasting his time and energy in Pakistan. People there do not listen to goid lectures.
Well said.
amazing
Sir i want to join this show, I am from Gujranwala Pakistan. professionally i am an accountant at Master Tiles but have deep interest in Physics, Cosmology and still learning from the intellectuals broadcast like yours.. so i will greatly apricate if you give me a chance to visit live lecture, specially on "General Theory of Relativity" Which i still waiting...
Sir you can watch this from UA-cam. What extra benefit it can give you if you attend his session physically in Islamabad. If you have interest in science, you can take admission in science course in your nearest university.
@@theobserver7639 sir I am so curious about General theory, space time curvature with time dilation, so during your lecture it's quite easy to ask question directly to Respected Pervaiz Sab, Personally I really admire his rational views and follow him the time of VU video lectures.. So! I am matured and don't have time now to attend regular studies again, so I tried to follow Roger Penrose, Brain Greene and like others professor to understand why we and the universe exists. Anyways Thanks for your response too.
@Shared Cosmos (Urdu) I've saved playlists of Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy's Physics lectures if you want I can share that with you. BTW, if you're particularly interested in cosmology /Astronomy you can watch Salman Hameed's channel " *Kainaat Astronomy in Urdu* " He is a Pakistani Astrophysicist working in the field of cosmology in the United States 🇺🇲.
I see you are a science enthusiast , if you want to physically attend Dr Pervez hoodbhoy sahab's Lecture, You can register yourself at the " Blackhole islamabad " W-site. the session is free and open to all.
Topic of the next Lecture - " *Asteroid-Earth Collisions - How To Prevent? By Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy* "
Date And Time :
Saturday, October 1, 2022
@ 07: 00 PM to 08: 30 PM
Location : 5-H, Street 100, G-11/3, Islamabad
Science is a way but not the only way. Philosophy, common sense, and spiritual practice are also ways.
Agree with you, science is not the only way, but people like Hoodbey Sahab believe in scienctism, if X is any entity, and we can experience this through five senses or we can task this X, through empirical formula, then X is real, this is how they believe on such reality.
Can any of these so-called ways add something that Islam does not provide?
@@PS-ej2xn Islam does not provide science. Faith is not a substitute of wisdom.
@@ghazanhussain2070 Islamic faith encapsulates the highest form of wisdom. Who told you today wisdom exists separate from Islam?
@@PS-ej2xn wisdom and science are two seperate things. Science means something very specific. If Islam have such scientific knowledge then tell me from Quran how can we make an aeroplane. 😂
Love from motherland
What is motherland? Can land be mother? Next you will be worshipping mother. All land belongs to momins.
1:38:15 Apne Maut ke farman par khud Dastakht kar di 😬
Science IS the way to know the WORLD not by Jihaad
I always want to pull my hair and bang my head against a wall when listening to a theist……. But then I clearly remember before I was an atheist I thought similarly, constant childhood indoctrination is a b1tch and very difficult to get over. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist. ,,, ,
Dr Hoodbhoy, you are quoting Alama Iqbal who was himself a liar and became responsible for the killing of millions and destroyed India at the time of partition. Actually Pakistan’s birth is the implementation of Iqbal by Jinnah?
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I don't agree with hating the biggest victims of Islam the 'Muslims', and Islamic dogma is not any worse then the Christian dogma, the big difference is that Christians reformed their original dogma and no longer closely follow their original scriptures. both religions selectively only preach scriptures which is accepted by modern standards and no longer preach the crazy and horrific scriptures and versus. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
Personality like Hoodbey will never appreciate the Islamic golden era.
@@ughs761 honestly agree on this, but we should appreciate that era, I have no problem with science, but any true Muslim will not.
That's the biggest problem with people trying to mislead Muslims. They don't understand that Islam came first, and then from Islam was born all true science. So any genuine study of science must entail mastering of the teachings of Islam first. Otherwise, this is the path of kufr.
@@PS-ej2xn Are you really that thick or just being sarcastic?
@@anjum2008 Anjum, do you really believe that Islam came only with the Holy Quran as revealed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?
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No. Islam does not acknowledge science. Islam and science are direct opposite schemas.
We're humen, we have limitations, based on our limited knowledge, how we can fully explain the ultimate reality?
It's like trying to explain an entire system from within.
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
Richard P. Feynman
اپ پاکستان کیلئے ایک اثاثہ ہیں میری ایک گزارش ہے آ پ سائنسی موضوعات تک اپنے آ پ کو محدود رکھیں مذہب،فلسفہ اور شاعری پر نہ بولا کریں پھر آ پ ہر قسم کی تنقید کی زد میں آ جاتے ہیں۔
Not enough. If he is honest, he must acknowledge the unique role of Islam in bringing about scientific temper.
Mai bhi yahi kehta hon
There should be a counter scholar
You mean to say there should be a real scholar.
@@PS-ej2xn not at all, I am saying one should be there to explain the other side of the picture too... Suppose he is talking on religious beliefs then one must be there to counter that side as well
Dr sahaaab ye aapki ghalat fehmi hy Allama iqbal ny kabhi ye nahein kaha ke asal ilam ilhamee hy balke wo is baat pe zor de raha tha ke tum log jo kehte ho ke asal ilam science hy to mehrabani kejei asala ilam science nahein hy, mtlab ilhameee ilam bhi zarooree hy kaiynaat ko smajhne keli,,
Apne mind me thoda logic laane ki jarurat h aapko
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