Technical insight into connecting batteries in parallel.

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  • @user-xv5iw5zh4m
    @user-xv5iw5zh4m 11 місяців тому +5

    The problem with paralleling batteries it that they never are at exactly the same voltage. There are always equalising currents flowing between them. And the bigger the gap in internal resistance - the bigger such a current will be, no to mention that the external currents will divide not exactly as you have planed

  • @octoma
    @octoma 2 роки тому +9

    Simple and straight forward. This is exactly what I was looking for.
    Thank you.

  • @rayhughes8240
    @rayhughes8240 3 роки тому +15

    The detail of the information and the easy explanation is excellent. Best video I have seen on this topic. Thank you

  • @Intrafacial86
    @Intrafacial86 Рік тому +2

    I about shit myself at 12:50 when I heard the baby. Sounded just like it was downstairs in my home!

  • @teallhaycock9316
    @teallhaycock9316 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video!! Very helpful, thank you for this info and the detail explained so well

  • @Weowtech
    @Weowtech 2 роки тому

    Thank you, nice job explained this and why batteries do what they do spreading the amps draw when connecting to parallel. and also the importance of same voltage when making connection.

  • @Yorkshirewild
    @Yorkshirewild 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t usually comment but this is a absolutely fabulous video and explanation thank you so much.

  • @207matthew
    @207matthew 5 місяців тому

    Took me three years to find your information... everybody else I consulted was just wrong!

  • @adrian.zyskowski2145
    @adrian.zyskowski2145 2 роки тому

    Just what I was looking for Perfect Easy explanation thank you

  • @tanzim4952
    @tanzim4952 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the detailed video.

  • @williamwindex3890
    @williamwindex3890 2 роки тому

    Thanks man.. nice to double check with you!

  • @falkodenherder
    @falkodenherder 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this mate, you're saving my grad proposal with this

  • @malai5143
    @malai5143 2 роки тому

    That water level metaphor blow my mind. Never thought bout that. 🤯

  • @L.V-Rider
    @L.V-Rider 3 місяці тому

    I am not an electrician but a financial guy. My one friend is an electrician but he is not an expert on batteries. I understand this concept of paralleling different capacity batteries as I am doing it for years. He falls back on his book knowledge and say it can't be done and after a lot of discussion he still say I am wrong and it will damage the batteries.

  • @edwinrebece9832
    @edwinrebece9832 Рік тому

    Wow thank you! I understand now .. cause I was planning to get an extender pack for my e scooter but at a lower capacity so I was worried of burning my other battery if I connect them in parallel.. anyway thank you this video was a big help.

  • @bumpylump9236
    @bumpylump9236 3 роки тому

    100% on the money. This is correct info. 12 only will equal out just make sure every battery start with close voltage.

  • @alwaysforever4792
    @alwaysforever4792 2 роки тому

    Very clear and informative.. :)

  • @thegreenlife2663
    @thegreenlife2663 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much! nice explaining!!!

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin 2 роки тому +5

    You could put the load (red) on the other side of the battery array and still be in parallel which would give you equal charging and discharging capabilities. It would also increase the battery life expectancy because it’s better balanced. Often the battery at the beginning of a parallel circuit does the majority of the work will the battery at the end does the least. Food for thought. Balance your load. =] LoL

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 2 роки тому +1

      Yes with a battery with traditional terminals. A little hard to do with our waterproof leads 😀

  • @Esk-be8kd
    @Esk-be8kd 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! Adding a battery to my e scooter

  • @monkeytonker4637
    @monkeytonker4637 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid well explained

  • @andruss2001
    @andruss2001 Рік тому

    Thanks! Great explanation.

  • @bgreen8565
    @bgreen8565 2 роки тому

    great video well done

  • @shohedulislamnaim1410
    @shohedulislamnaim1410 Рік тому

    Great brother 🤠

  • @frankiebuttigieg3624
    @frankiebuttigieg3624 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video .have a question.can 2 75 amp 1 80amp and 1 85 amp battry be connected together in paraell

  • @arafat_hamza
    @arafat_hamza 2 роки тому

    Many many thanks ❤️

  • @kamote4854
    @kamote4854 3 роки тому +2

    What if I put a BMS with lower Amp rating on the pack with lower capacity, Would they still discharge at the same rate? What If I put a BMS with higher Amp rating, would it limit the discharge rate of the pack with the lower capacity to adjust to the pack with the higher capacity? Thanks. I still have a lot of questions in my mind that I would like to ask hope that you could answer my question.

  • @camster1649
    @camster1649 2 роки тому

    Very useful knowledge..

  • @stonesteven575
    @stonesteven575 Рік тому

    For charging a small and a big battery could u bridge it one terminal on positive of one battery and one terminal of other battery on negative? Or is it recommended to charge seperate

  • @FrankLowe1949
    @FrankLowe1949 24 дні тому

    Very nice thank you.❤❤

  • @bestillandknowthatuaregod
    @bestillandknowthatuaregod 2 роки тому

    for 10 batts hooked in parallel 12v 70 amp each would a 80a circuit breaker installed between the batts and the charge controller be ok or is has to be greater amp breaker?

  • @teriistevens3674
    @teriistevens3674 Рік тому

    Thank you 👍

  • @petetrimble2698
    @petetrimble2698 Рік тому

    While I understand you want the batteries at the same voltage when connecting ... if you need to ... is there a way to protect the battery/limit the current (in particular with lifepo4 or would the BMS control this for you?)

  • @kevmack101
    @kevmack101 Рік тому +1

    Hey on my one battery i have2 +s and 2 -s wire going in to each controller but my second battery only has 1+ and 1 -. Can I get away with just hooking it up to only 1+ & negative on the first battery

  • @gr8gau
    @gr8gau 2 роки тому +1

    I want to use two recharagable batteries in parallel, though I understand their will be voltage difference between them. I want to avoid any flow of charge from higher to lower voltage battery is their any way this may be avoided ? Thanks

  • @boypalaboy4309
    @boypalaboy4309 Рік тому +1

    If i have both 60v but different 25ah the other is 70ah is fine?

  • @OmarELKADMIRI
    @OmarELKADMIRI Рік тому +1

    7Ah battery will provide 1.71A and 17.5Ah battery will provide 4.28A

  • @KetansaCreatesArt
    @KetansaCreatesArt 2 роки тому +1

    Very well explained. Another question rises - What if the smaller 12v battery is used for a while and the bigger 12v battery is fresh? The smaller one suposedly have lost 20% of its ability. Will it act like a leach to the bigger battery all the time and create power loss?

    • @leighharvey9150
      @leighharvey9150 2 роки тому +1

      Not an expert but I would expect so. As the batteries discharge the voltage drops as well. So by running them seperately the voltage of the flat battery is lower than the fully charged battery.

    • @ras5056
      @ras5056 2 роки тому +1

      As the battery ages, I would imagine the "tank" capacity just gets smaller. The fully charges and discharge voltages are still the same. So in his example, the 7.5ah or (300liter tank) just becomes smaller. It still contributes but much less over time.

  • @CosmicCreationsDIY
    @CosmicCreationsDIY Місяць тому

    Will the total deplete faster mixing Ah ? Scooter batteries I have 2x12v20ah and 2 other 12v with one 7.5ah and one 12ah
    Would this be ok to run in parallel for 48v

  • @funnynews2003
    @funnynews2003 2 роки тому

    excellent

  • @lezmac3104
    @lezmac3104 3 роки тому +3

    Informative..can you tell us the formula on how you came up with the figures of 3.6A and 2.4A?..because when I did ratio calculation I end up with 4.26A for the 17.5ah and 1.74A for the 7ah = 6Amps..but you said in the video that you calculate it with the internal resistance..please can you give me the equation formula on how to calculate including internal resistance?..thanks for the video..

  • @raafe4
    @raafe4 Рік тому

    Thanks bro

  • @linnpyaemaung9862
    @linnpyaemaung9862 2 роки тому

    So, i have to fully charge two same voltage, different capacity batteries in order to connect them in parallel and use, is it like that, Sir?

  • @Bulmaimi
    @Bulmaimi 3 роки тому +1

    What if you put 2 different batteries with different voltages, and you put a diode at the end of the lower voltage battery, will it run normally and protect the lower voltage battery from overcharge and explosion?

    • @shaunhw
      @shaunhw Рік тому

      Diodes conduct current only when voltage (potential) is higher on anode than cathode. So if you connected a high current diode with its anode at the positive terminal of a lower voltage battery, and its cathode at the intended "parallel" (+ve) connection of the higher voltage battery, then that diode would become reversed biased, (IE: higher voltage on cathode than anode) and would pass no current at all from the lower voltage battery. Even multiple diodes with anodes connected to different voltage batteries +ve terminals (with all diode cathodes on an outgoing parallel bus) will be reversed biased on lower voltage sources. So no, it would not work. Only when a higher voltage battery discharged to a voltage lower than the diode connected to a lower voltage battery, would the diode conduct, and the resulting voltage would be the lower battery voltage. (Ignoring voltage reduction across the diodes.)

  • @koyarbakir775
    @koyarbakir775 3 роки тому

    Hi can I connect 2 2200mah 1c batteries and discharge them at 4amps?

  • @gayansanjeewa1359
    @gayansanjeewa1359 Рік тому

    sir can you explain about wire gauge for those parallel need. my problem is when we gain out put with higher A level what wire gauge should use..? i am new to this electric side so kindly can you do a video thank you.

  • @wadafaq466
    @wadafaq466 Рік тому

    I love ur explanation
    Just one question when u say the batterie should be at the same voltage you mean full charge ? With the condition of knowing that the specs of the batteries are for example 48v 21ah and 48v 13ah
    I should know my both batteries are at 48 v when they are fully charged yes ? And 0 v when they are fully spent i hope i got this right 😅

    • @r.vargas5410
      @r.vargas5410 6 місяців тому

      FYI 48v batteries fully charge at 54.6v and cut off discharge is 39v ,At Least For Ebikes

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Рік тому

    Parallel lead acid batteries can help charge one that won't accept a charge due to high internal resistance...or i think even a capacitor in parallel can do the same

  • @jameshuynh5436
    @jameshuynh5436 3 роки тому +1

    So I can parallel 2 same type 12v. But 200ah. And 100ah. Should be ok ?

    • @pelecho
      @pelecho 2 роки тому

      I don’t think so. The 200ah it’s gonna be working really hard

  • @galaxiethinker183
    @galaxiethinker183 10 місяців тому

    Can i parrel 2 same volt batteries but have diffrent Max continuous discharge current: 20A and 30A

  • @Road2Milli
    @Road2Milli 2 роки тому

    MVP

  • @rizwanrafiq497
    @rizwanrafiq497 3 роки тому

    Excellent Video i need help please reply
    can i put Analog / digital dc amp meter on parallel batteries for showing amps when charging and discharging from batteries all the time ?
    is that this analog / digital dc amp meter draw some amps from battery ?
    Thank you

    • @lomgshorts3
      @lomgshorts3 3 роки тому

      You can buy fairly inexpensive nanometers to mount on each battery to compare charge rates. eBay has them for about $6 US. the last time I bought a half dozen. While not totally accurate, they give you a good idea of how many amps are going to each battery. GOOD LUCK!

  • @dharmakissoon
    @dharmakissoon 3 роки тому

    same volt and different can be mix in parallels there is a formula for the total ams

  • @earthenergyhex
    @earthenergyhex 3 роки тому +1

    It doesnt matter if I have 2-12v 115AH batteries and 2-12v 35AH batteries? I can connect them parallel for my 400W solar panels?

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 3 роки тому

      Yes as long as you don't exceed the maximum charge rate on the batteries.

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 Рік тому

    Are you intentionally ignoring internal resistance or do you just feel it is not enough of a concern to bring into this discussion?

  • @InspiredScience
    @InspiredScience Рік тому

    Are you certain this is accurate with Li-on/LiFePO4, because they have *flat voltage curves*. Your premise is that due to the significant drop of voltage with SLA/AGM/GEL batteries -- the batteries will discharge proportionately based upon their capacity, which is correct. *However,* when you have batteries whose voltage does not go down for the bulk of their discharge (as with LFP) then this premise wouldn't hold true.

  • @richardphillips2405
    @richardphillips2405 4 місяці тому

    I have been trying to figure out how much current each battery would contribute to the 6A required. I've tried figuring by the Ah ratio of each battery compared to the total Ah of the batteries connected together. So 17.5 Ah + 7 Ah = 24.5 Ah. With a 6A load the batteries would last 4.08 Ah. Things fall apart after this. I tried to figure out how much each battery is giving. I divided 17.5 Ah / 24.5 Ah = 71% for the first battery and I got 29% for the second battery. How do you figure out how much current would be drawn from each battery? Also, this is assuming a linear relationship. I am interested in this because I am playing with solar panels and golf cart batteries. With one test, powering an inverter @ 12V 50A the solar panels were supplying 20A and the batteries were supplying 30A. I don't know how to figure this out with the math. What determines how much current comes from the batteries and how much current comes from the solar panels? Thanks in advance for any comments or ideas.

    • @yasyasmarangoz3577
      @yasyasmarangoz3577 2 місяці тому

      What in the hell are you talking about?
      Did you mix the units?

    • @richardphillips2405
      @richardphillips2405 2 місяці тому

      @@yasyasmarangoz3577 Never mind. After thinking about it, it probably has more to do with the internal resistance of each battery.

  • @ferozkhatri8565
    @ferozkhatri8565 3 роки тому

    Excellent video, i have a question
    i have 2 185AH Batteries connected in parallel working fine but i want to know how amp using each battery when i put on load or charging ?
    can i put 2 digital amp meters ( like a volt meter ) on each battery for see the load and charging amp of individual batteries ?
    i am waiting for your reply
    Thanks in advance

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 3 роки тому +1

      You only need to know the total amp draw or charging amps. Batteries in parallel will always split the load in half.

    • @ferozkhatri8565
      @ferozkhatri8565 3 роки тому

      @@brandongoh8900 thanks so i need to put a single digital amp meter on battery 1 positive and battery 2 negative i hope that will show total amp draw and charge ?
      I am waiting for your reply
      Thanks

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 3 роки тому +1

      @@ferozkhatri8565 yes that is correct. Or if you have a clamp type amp Meter you can use that to take your amp draw reading instead.

    • @ferozkhatri8565
      @ferozkhatri8565 3 роки тому

      @@brandongoh8900 suggest me , i think i can use digital dc amp meter because it will show amps when charging and discharging from batteries all the time without any hassale ?
      2 is that this disgital dc amp meter draw some amps from battery ?
      3. is that safe to attach digital dc amp meter with battery ?
      Thank you so much for your help

    • @petsonly4068
      @petsonly4068 2 роки тому

      @@brandongoh8900 what about batteries connected in parallel with same voltage and different capacities? Do they split the current draw in half or divide the load according to the capacity? What about charging? Does the higher capacity battery charge with more current?

  • @tristanalmiranez
    @tristanalmiranez 3 роки тому

    What if the load only needs 3 amps and I do parallel does my load still get forced 6 amps or will the batteries adjust to 3 amps

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 3 роки тому

      Then it will pull 1.5a from each battery.

  • @ogztnr5581
    @ogztnr5581 3 роки тому +1

    thanks great.how can i balance 2 batteries with resistor

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 3 роки тому

      Lots of videos online showing you how! Too hard to explain via typing!

  • @salifuharuna6849
    @salifuharuna6849 2 роки тому

    Genius

  • @Moonja_paaru
    @Moonja_paaru 2 роки тому

    Sir,,,80ah and 40 ah parallel connect,,,,
    Any problems comming,,,,,,,

  • @jarmiyayadav1599
    @jarmiyayadav1599 Рік тому

    Sir can i make 12v battery by using 3.7v different capacity of batteries means
    All are 3.7v batteries but
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah ,3.7v
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah,3.7v
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah,3.7v
    Like this total 9cells
    One set contains 3cells=4400(1200+1200+2000)
    So 3sets = 11.1v 4400mah
    Can I make it ? Is it safe

  • @johngenoni1927
    @johngenoni1927 2 роки тому

    do you need to use parallel lead or use pig tail to join
    can you connect 1 charger to leader and charge both at same time or do you need to charge seperatly

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 2 роки тому

      Use the parallel lead. You can charge both together but charge times will be doubled. Both batteries should be charged full before putting the batteries together in parallel.

    • @johngenoni1927
      @johngenoni1927 2 роки тому

      @@brandongoh8900 thanks will do have ourchased your new green light and pro charger and usb charger and hub for my new hobbie pro 12 foot 360 so may have a another question later thanks for guidance

  • @muvirimig
    @muvirimig 3 роки тому

    thanks on the last past

  • @Jbogator
    @Jbogator 7 місяців тому

    Whats a safe voltage difference between 2 battery packs before connecting in parallel?

    • @salesfpvpower7858
      @salesfpvpower7858 7 місяців тому +1

      Hi Mate,
      Get the batteries within half a volt before you connect them together in parallel.

    • @Jbogator
      @Jbogator 7 місяців тому

      ​@@salesfpvpower7858got it. Thanks

  • @marlondayrit233
    @marlondayrit233 3 роки тому

    My question is: can I parallel a 12v 65ah car battery and 12v 50ah deep cycle solar battery?

    • @secretagent5333
      @secretagent5333 3 роки тому +1

      It depends. If your goal is short term, and the voltages match, then yes. The problem comes when it depletes under 50%. Your car battery will not like that, but the deep cycle might be okay with a lower percentage. Also, the load is a big question. Solar batteries are not designed with peak load in mind, car batteries are built for peak load/start the engine/. So yes, you can, but several things to take into consideration, to avoid damaging your batteries.

  • @ashokkalagara8378
    @ashokkalagara8378 3 роки тому

    Can i operate 30 Ah and 80 Ah in parallel in an inverter circuit

  • @GMTV-yy4ir
    @GMTV-yy4ir 3 роки тому

    If you conect to series but its not the same voltage what will happen?

    • @marks9127
      @marks9127 3 роки тому +3

      Nothing. Parallel is used to combine Ah with same voltage (12v 50Ah + 12v 150Ah = 12v 200Ah). Series is used to combine voltages with same capacity (12v 50Ah + 24v 50Ah = 36v 50Ah).

    • @crisolivo1
      @crisolivo1 3 роки тому

      @@marks9127 I Mark thanks for your answer.
      I have a huge bank of batteries of 1.2v each but I have different capacities to connect them in series for example I have 36 batteries of 1.2volt 138 Amps each but I need 4 more batteries in order to get 48volt battery bank. Can I add 4 more batteries of 1.2V with 180 Amps of capacity?

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Рік тому

    I wouldn't say wires act like fuses I've burnt stuff or fried batteries but the wires were perfectly fine. People might miss your point and literally think that the wires will burn before something worse happens. Caution.

  • @henryhatton1441
    @henryhatton1441 Рік тому

    What about series?

  • @exklimexklim
    @exklimexklim 2 роки тому

    There’s a problem you forgot to mention.
    What if they’re different brand pack: One pack LG the other Pack Chinese.

  • @user-uh3bi2gi3g
    @user-uh3bi2gi3g 3 роки тому

    If i have motor work on 32v can i share 2 battre 12v and 20v or this dangerous thank you for everything

  • @fivish
    @fivish Рік тому

    How would you ensure the voltages are the same? Its very unlikely they would be so they would rapidly self discharge. Clearly you never actually tried this for real.

    • @iangoh7289
      @iangoh7289 Рік тому

      from your question... it shows your lack of knowledge on how batteries work... when u connect two batteries they will self-equalize..... why don't YOU go and test it first .... and report back... use any battery... say a 12v lead acid... 100ah and another one at 150ah etc... Clearly.. u HAVE never tired this.. lol

  • @johnbrown6189
    @johnbrown6189 4 місяці тому

    Your water analogy is incorrect. The water pressure at the bottom of each tank will be exactly the same. Therefore the flow rate will be the same from each tank. If l measure the water pressure at 100 meters in the ocean and l measure the water pressure in a 100 meter 1 meter diameter tube the water pressure will be the same. And the ocean has a lot water in than the pipe. Batteries do the same .

  • @lomgshorts3
    @lomgshorts3 3 роки тому

    If you parallel two or more batteries, the voltages must be within .2V, and the capacities must match. The date codes MUST match! This is especially true among solar power systems, or automotive applications. You must match the charging amperage of your alternator for the car/truck batteries that are paralleled or neither battery will ever be fully charged. Keep the tops of your batteries squeaky clean, or you will create a high impedance short that will make your solar or alternator work much harder to charge up the batteries. This is especially true in car/ truck batteries up in the "rust belt". That dust that collects on the top of your battery is actually not dirt, but powdered rust from other vehicles that will short out the battery by making a path between terminals on your battery. Always use distilled water to clean the top of the battery, a dampened cloth will do fine.

  • @laryangel4082
    @laryangel4082 Рік тому

    Tt

  • @frankbelluccia2689
    @frankbelluccia2689 Рік тому

    It does not work that way.
    A battery is an electro-chemical device. Ohm's law applies only electrically. Battery internal resistance is dynamic, it changes under load, Ohm's law follows the chemistry, not the other way round. The video presumes chemistry ill follow Ohm's law. It will not!!! A test would not be very difficult, or expensive, to perform.
    New batteries will differ minimally, as they age, it will be statistically impossible for two such batteries to follow Ohm's law as claimed in the video.

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 Рік тому

    Oº.ºOps... know what you are saying; go learn practical stuff before talking»»»» a 24 volt and a 12 volt batteries in parallel *IS NO ff EXAMPLE**
    They WILL eat each other, E X P L O D E
    Choose better examples
    edit at 04:00 you say it

  • @zeljkozerjavic7008
    @zeljkozerjavic7008 8 місяців тому

    Use tiny leads will be evaporated and protect battery. Other put diodes before junction so current can go ONLY OUT OF BATTERY BUT NOT INTO BATTERY.