How to Charge Batteries in Parallel With Different Capacity

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    In this video, I will show you the ins and outs of how to charge batteries in parallel, mainly focusing on charging lithium batteries and LiFePO4 batteries in parallel. I'll dive deep into what you need to consider if you're dealing with different capacity batteries in parallel, ensuring you understand the critical aspects of wiring batteries in parallel to maintain balance and extend their lifespan.
    Wiring batteries in parallel is more than just connecting cables; it's about understanding the chemistry behind your batteries, whether lithium or lead-acid, and ensuring they're matched for optimal performance. I'll explain why it's crucial to use batteries of the same voltage and chemistry and what happens when you mix different types or capacities.
    Charging lithium batteries in parallel comes with its considerations, especially when ensuring each battery shares the load equally to prevent premature aging called current sharing. I'll show you how connecting batteries in parallel differs from a series connection, including how batteries in parallel balance themselves automatically, a feature not shared when wiring in series.
    The video also covers the importance of current sharing among batteries wired in parallel, demonstrating with practical examples how to achieve optimal wiring configurations for both small and larger battery setups. You'll learn why busbars may become your best friend for minimizing resistance and ensuring even current distribution across all batteries.
    For those curious about wiring different capacity batteries in parallel, I'll address the common concerns and scenarios where it might be necessary, providing clear examples to help you understand the potential impacts on performance and lifespan.
    Selecting the right fuse and wire sizes is critical when wiring batteries in parallel, and I'll guide you through the calculations to ensure safety and efficiency. Whether you're expanding an existing solar system or building a new one, understanding the role of fuses and the correct gauge of wiring is essential for protecting your investment.
    Whether you're a seasoned solar power enthusiast or new to the concept of charging LiFePO4 batteries in parallel, this video is packed with valuable insights. I'll share tips on expanding your solar system by maximizing capacity without increasing voltage, ensuring your batteries deliver power more efficiently and last longer.
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  • @cleversolarpower
    @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

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  • @bradk8702
    @bradk8702 4 місяці тому +6

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  • @user-tn3sb2sv5m
    @user-tn3sb2sv5m 4 місяці тому +4

    Very well explained

  • @kenkrommenacker8649
    @kenkrommenacker8649 4 місяці тому

    Thank You for all the info, and also just ordered your book.

  • @Handlesplus
    @Handlesplus 3 місяці тому

    What an excellent and very helpful channel. I have just installed 3 x 120a 12 volt batteries in parallel connected via two very thick solid copper busbars for a total of 360 amps. I took the negative off the first battery and the positive off the last and then ran them up to separate busbars for distribution to - 240vac/12dc charger, dc to dc converter and a 3000 watt inverter. I hope I did the right thing. I have now subbed to your fantastic channel. Thank you.

  • @bupbup777
    @bupbup777 9 днів тому

    Your videos are awesome!

  • @russell7489
    @russell7489 3 місяці тому

    VERY clear You are brilliant

  • @philbrooke-little7082
    @philbrooke-little7082 4 місяці тому +8

    Lithium and lead acid work very well together so long as the lithium has a programable BMS. The advantage of doing this is that it saves the cost of having to get lithium profile chargers and it protects an alternator in the event of a BMS disconnect. It also gives redundancy. I’ve been running hybrid for several years and so have many other boaters.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому

      What voltage are you setting your charge to?

    • @philbrooke-little7082
      @philbrooke-little7082 4 місяці тому +13

      @@cleversolarpower I set the BMS to disconnect charge at either 14 or 14.2v the chargers are set at standard lead acid so 14.4 and a float of 13.5 which suits both lead and lithium. Setting the BMS lower than the chargers ensures that you never get a ‘low voltage overcharge’ situation from the alternator or from solar controllers absorbing before going into float. The 14 / 14.2v is chosen as it allows the battery to enter the upper ‘knee’ portion of the charge curve and perform balancing if needed. I use 14v when solar is the main charge source and sometimes 14.2 if using the alternator as the current on mine can be fairly high (0.25+C) as that allows the battery to get a bit more full than it would at 14v. 14v works well with solar as, at the often lower charge rates, it gets the battery to around 99%+ full. My system is data logged at one minute intervals and I have used the data gathered to come up with those settings.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +9

      Thanks for your extensive answer. I might do a video about this when i run some tests.

  • @aaronb483
    @aaronb483 3 місяці тому +1

    i never considered all those issues. Everything you said made complete since to me.

  • @jhay_mstv6331
    @jhay_mstv6331 3 місяці тому

    Clear! Thank you sir , I'll subscribe

  • @electroumit
    @electroumit 3 місяці тому

    Thank you.

  • @earthenergyhex
    @earthenergyhex 3 місяці тому

    Great video, I learned alot

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      Thanks, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss out on future videos!

  • @jamesklingenberg9382
    @jamesklingenberg9382 2 місяці тому

    Good to know. Thanks.

  • @808pathfinder
    @808pathfinder 2 місяці тому +4

    Just watching the video made me hit the like button and you showing all the wirering diagram made me hit the Sub, thanks for sharing

  • @darrylm3627
    @darrylm3627 2 місяці тому

    😄👍Good Stuff, Great Tips

  • @donm1547
    @donm1547 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the PDF download, I just want to say that your disclaimer with conductor sizing based on the 90°C column really should be based on the 75°C column because most devices that will be terminated to that cabling will not be rated with a 90° C termination. Therefore the possibility of excessive heat being transferred through the terminations to the device could either destroy the equipment or cause a warranty issue.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      I have never heard about lugs having a temperature rating. I researched it, and you are right; they do have a temperature rating. However, I do not think it plays a significant role as long as they are quality lugs and not cheap lugs. A welding wire rated at 105°C should then also be downgraded to a 75°C rating; that doesn't make sense to me. We did not take this into account when working for a major chemical company. I have a video about the quality of lugs coming out soon.

  • @jeremygrebe2647
    @jeremygrebe2647 21 день тому

    Hi
    From Colombo, Sri Lanka
    I am using a microtek 2335 hybrid inverter, 2 x 12v 200ah Okaya Opgel and 3 x 375 REC panels.
    I operate with smart metering ie - Day time 5.30 am - 6.30 pm, Peak 6.30 pm -10.30pm, Off peak 10.30pm - 5.30 am.
    I auto switch off the peak time by way of timer and contactor thereby zeroing peak current and charge in off peak, and save during day time via solar.
    Net saving has been almost 65%.
    My house is single phase and I have split wired my house as follows.
    1. All lights, fans, TV, Fridge,audio including plug points in room through inverter /solar hybrid.
    2. Iron, Oven, Microwave, Electric Kettle, Air Fryer,Washing Machine induction all direct to grid.
    Although system works fine if I operate at full capacity during peak I found my battery id's almost fully utilized and insufficient if I have an extended power cut.
    Watching your video I want to increase this same system by 6 batteries of same type. Make 3 sets of 24v x 200ah and connect each set to a 24v/200ah 5 stage intelligent charger ( so total 3 sets of batteries & 3 chargers) I will set a timer/contactor to charge these during off-peak and day time only.
    This will give me 19w reserve and hopefully many years of use.
    I intend connect 1st set to hybrid inverter and balance 3 sets as tag on parallel (with their grid chargers)
    Please advise your thoughts.
    Thanks and Regards
    Jeremy
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  • @dougiee6589
    @dougiee6589 3 місяці тому

    This is good as for me

  • @neno2363
    @neno2363 3 місяці тому

    I have four GEL batteries. Two are 100 Ah each, and two are 120 Ah each. The inverter operates at 24V. I have three solar panels, each with 390W and 40V connected in series. The charge controller can operate at 12V, 24V, 36V, and 48V. What is the most optimal way to connect the batteries? Two batteries of 100 Ah in series, two of 120 Ah also in series, and then those two in parallel? Where should I place the fuses and of how many amperes?

  • @jamesalles139
    @jamesalles139 3 місяці тому +1

    Personally, I would avoid mixing differing capacities with lead-acid chemistry. I believe that is following most manufacturers recommendations, also.

  • @jlacoustic4450
    @jlacoustic4450 19 днів тому

    Thx so much for your guidance. Can I connect in parallel a 100ah 24v to my old 20 ah 24v using your wiring advice, positive on my 100ah end and negative on 20ah end?
    Would it cause any problem or harm my 20 ah battery in anyway?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  19 днів тому

      No. 1/6 of the energy or current will come from the 20ah battery. The rest will come from the bigger battery.

  • @mirwanbaloch
    @mirwanbaloch 2 місяці тому

    hi hello , i have two 12 volt 70 Ah battries and one big 12 volt battery of 120 ah , my solar inverter is of 24 volt and now how to connect these in series and parallel pls

  • @rb.tees2365
    @rb.tees2365 2 місяці тому

    question??
    i have 50ah lifeo4 24V series connection assembled and 75ah lifeo4 24V same series assembled..i am planning to parallel to parallel this so i can get 125ah...now the question... is it possible to use 1BMS 100A in this 50ah and 75ah if i combined it in parallel

  • @shermanramsingh7898
    @shermanramsingh7898 5 годин тому

    how do you connect enough EP3 Cube to give you a battery bank of 350kw

  • @smartass5085
    @smartass5085 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this. I have a technical issue with my setup. I have four 12v 200ah batteries from the same manufacturer. My inverter is a 24v system so I connected two batteries in series to give 24v and parallel with the other two series battery. Now I have the battery bank at 24v 400ah.
    After about 3 hours of use by the inverter, I noticed that the 2 batteries on the negative parallel line will drain to 10v while the 2 on the positive parallel line stays full at 13.3v. What could be the problem please? Could it be that the 2 batteries on the negative line draining to 10v are faulty? I have only used this setup for 2 days before noticing this as the inverter beeps low battery after 3 hours.
    Pls help.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  Місяць тому

      What happens if you switch the leads over? Check your wiring again. Are there any imbalances in the batteries? If so, charge every battery individually with a 12v charger and connect again.

  • @majdgreen7983
    @majdgreen7983 3 місяці тому

    thank you for helpful explanation
    If I have 24v 200A lifepo4 battery used for about 1 year and I wanted to add another battery from same size and voltage and brand name
    could this be done ? what is the precautions ?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      You can add the battery in parallel. Not a problem. The main positive from battery 1 and the main negative from battery 2.

    • @majdgreen7983
      @majdgreen7983 3 місяці тому

      @cleversolarpower thank you , but I was informed that the inner resistance of LiFePo cells becomes higher by time of using it .. and it is not recommended to connect new batteries with used one. Cuz there will be difference in cells resistance
      What do you think

  • @4115steve
    @4115steve Місяць тому

    Do you need to worry about balancing when wiring batteries in series? Im on a facebook solar group there are mixed answers on this subject

  • @user-rz3ro9lu6o
    @user-rz3ro9lu6o 5 днів тому

    At the 5:00 mark of the video, you have shown that the load from the inverter, and all of the chargers (solar & battery charger), are all connected to the same buss bars, and therefore to the same "corners" of the battery array.
    I have 4x 6v lead acid batteries in a typical series/parallel arrangement. I was advised some time ago, that the +/- connections for the CHARGING circuit, should be at "opposite" corners of this battery arrangement, while the +/- connections for the LOAD circuit, should be at the opposing corners of the battery arrangement. So, the charge connections are at opposite corners compared to the load connections.
    How important is this? Your diagram is simpler and makes sense to me!

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  5 днів тому

      Good question. It doesn't really matter in your case (2S2P). I assume you were told to do so to limit the amount of lugs you have on one battery terminal. Now you have 2 but if you follow my diagram you would have 3. Max 3 are allowed.

    • @user-rz3ro9lu6o
      @user-rz3ro9lu6o 4 дні тому

      @@cleversolarpower If however I wanted to add a shunt on the negative post, I would then be forced to insert at least a negative buss bar, correct? I believe that this is because the shunt needs to be between the negative battery post, and all 3 of the load / charger / solar controller.
      And if I need the negative buss bar, I figure might as well go ahead with a positive buss bar.
      thaanks,

  • @twiddler71
    @twiddler71 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for these great videos and I also have your book which has lots of great info. Is there a good way to test the capacity of AGM batteries? I have a bunch of used AGM batteries I'd like to use, but it's difficult to tell how much capacity each one has. I know some people say you have to run a load all the way down to 10.5v and measure the current draw, but I don't want to harm the battery.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for the kind words 🙏. If you have a shunt you can draw it down to 50% SOC and then double the capacity at the end. Then you know how much is left.

    • @twiddler71
      @twiddler71 4 місяці тому

      I was thinking about that, but then how can I know for sure when the battery is at 50%? AGM batteries will drop voltage under load.
      @solarpower

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +1

      Good question, use a c-rate that is 0.05C for lead acid (20 hours). Then the voltage will not drop that much. Check by disconnecting the load and see if the voltage settles.

    • @twiddler71
      @twiddler71 4 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpowerI tried using a DL24 load tester at 10amps load down to 12v, but my readings didn't seem consistent. I recharged all my batteries, then let them sit for 2 days and see which ones remained at the highest voltage. I had 3 out of 8 that were above 13v, so I'm guessing those are my best batteries.

  • @tomp1193
    @tomp1193 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video, i enjoyed it. I have 4 x 240ah 12v Lifepo4 batteries in parallel. Ive come across another 12v 300ah lifepo4 battery(same manufacturer). Would it be safe to add it to my battery bank? Thanks

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  Місяць тому

      Yes, but only in parallel.

    • @tomp1193
      @tomp1193 Місяць тому

      Thanks for that. Everything is in parallel.👍

  • @douggief1367
    @douggief1367 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for your great help. I have 3 LifePO4 12v batteries: 1 is 50 Ah, and 2 of them are 75 Ah. I also have a 1500w Pure Sine Wave Inverter. How many of these batteries should I run in parallel? I want to charge 48v EGO batteries as well as other low draw uses like 12v lighting. Many thanks. --Douglas.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      You can run the 3 in parallel. other voltage systems should have different charge controllers and inverters.

    • @douggief1367
      @douggief1367 3 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpowerThankyou

  • @mortaneous
    @mortaneous 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Very informative. Question though: I built a 24v system using two 12v 200ah LiFePO4 batteries in series. Now I plan to increase the capacity to 300ah by adding a 24v100ah LiFePO4 battery in parallel. Assuming I have all the correct breakers/fuses and wire sizes in place, what (if any) should I be looking out for in this set up? Is this a safe configuration?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +2

      Run the third battery from the busbar like the diagram i showed near the end of the video. It will run perfectly.

    • @mortaneous
      @mortaneous 4 місяці тому +2

      I do have bus bars between the batteries and the inverter which I put there to facilitate addition of batteries in the bank. Thank you for confirming I'm on the right track!

    • @thetoolmat8632
      @thetoolmat8632 2 місяці тому

      @cleversolarpower How many 100ah 12v batteries can i run on a 2000w Inverter? Is it up to 4 in parallel? Right now I have have 2 batteries and want to add a 3rd then a 4th when feasible.. thanks

  • @davidhughes2932
    @davidhughes2932 22 дні тому +1

    Question: I have 2 100 AH batteries and one 200 AH battery wired in parallel to busbar. Do you recommend a charging equalizer?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  22 дні тому +1

      No, parallel equalizes itself. The bigger battery will draw twice as much power, but that's ok.

  • @LotsaThingsNstuff
    @LotsaThingsNstuff 2 місяці тому

    I have 8 batteries, should I do 2 sets of 4 to a bus bar?

  • @GregComin
    @GregComin Місяць тому

    Hey..
    Im making a new solar setup for a caravan n want to be fully off grid n self efficient.
    What would you do for say 3kwh that say could last a couple days?
    What sort of battery capacity would I need and solar n what not??

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  Місяць тому

      Checkout my latest video about designing an off grid solar system.

  • @chukwudinmaikechukwu
    @chukwudinmaikechukwu 3 місяці тому

    Is it advisable to charger the battery with the ac output of the inverter charger, i.e the ac current the inverter charger produced?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      You can charge the battery with the solar input or through the ac input. The output is used to power loads.

  • @parmeetsingh2381
    @parmeetsingh2381 2 місяці тому

    i have two custom made 24v 100ah lifepo4 batteries made with 8 prismatic cells each. I used JK 100amp smart BMS. can these batteries be connected parallely? how BMS would handle the charging?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому +1

      These can be connected in parallel. The BMS sees every battery individually. Because they are in parallel, they will be at the same voltage. One battery can charge with more current than the other, no problem.

    • @parmeetsingh2381
      @parmeetsingh2381 2 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower thanks for explaining. Let me clear one more thing. i have two seperate custom made batteries EACH WITH A BMS. So there will be two batteries with two different BMSs. Still they can be connected?

  • @sadohjoseph3888
    @sadohjoseph3888 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your tutorial. Please How can I get 48V and range of 3820Ah to 4000Ah when connected in series and parallel

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      Thanks! Why do you need that big of a battery? A 48V 5kW server rack is 100Ah. So you need 40 server rack batteries. That's $50,000.

    • @sadohjoseph3888
      @sadohjoseph3888 2 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower please can I talk to you privately via email?

  • @sinan1752
    @sinan1752 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if its possible to charge 4 serial connected batteries(48v) with a 12v charger with a ballance wirering

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      You can do that when there is no load attached. good for initially charging the batteries before commissioning them. But should not be done long term.

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 3 місяці тому

    That's nice,but I do mix Li and Lead-acid, in parallel ; they work perfectly together, for 1.5 years now, and Lead-Acids need no BMS,only the Li, lifepo4, do.

  • @user-rp1vu1gk5u
    @user-rp1vu1gk5u 2 місяці тому

    i have two power queen 12 volt100amp batteries. i am connecting in parallel with a renogy 700 watt inverter.
    can i use 6awg wires to connect both batteries?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      Checkout my video about sizing wires. Then check my video about sizing fuses.

  • @ssekyanzirobert9401
    @ssekyanzirobert9401 3 місяці тому

    What's the best way to wire 3 solar batteries in parallel ?

  • @grahamjohnbarr
    @grahamjohnbarr 9 днів тому

    No, I have the right sizes. What I want to know is the wires coming from the Controller connect to which Battery terminals. Then the wires going from the Battery to the Inverter are connected to which Terminals on the Battery.
    I have four 300W panels connected to the Controller. Then from the Controller to the Battery's. Then from the Battery's to the Inverter. As it should be.
    I want to use the fan model as in the "Better." You have all the Positive Leads connected to a single point then a wire going "out" to the Inverter?
    All the Negative Terminal wires connect to a single point, then a wire going out to the inverter from that point, but no diagram of the Negative wire coming in from the Controller.
    All the Positive Terminal wires also connect to single Positive point then a wire going out to the Inverter from that point, but no diagram of the Positive wire coming in from the Controller.

  • @calumlovett7661
    @calumlovett7661 4 місяці тому

    Do you not need to worry about battery balancing as well? I would have though each pair of batteries in your diagram would need a balancer as they are in series? Can you confirm if batteries in series need fuses on each positive terminal or just the main out one?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +2

      Since the batteries are in parallel, they will balance themselves. The balancer inside each battery will take care of balancing the individual cells inside. Batteries in series don't need individual fuses. Just one at the positive lead.

    • @calumlovett7661
      @calumlovett7661 4 місяці тому

      @cleversolarpower I thought the diagram had 2 off 100ah batteries in series with 2 off 280ah batteries in series with both series "banks" then in parallel?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому

      Ah, you are referring to the diagram. I don't think this will be a big problem. The BMS will regulate the individual cells of each battery. balancing happens when the battery is fully charged, so having the batteries fully charged from time to time will solve this problem of imbalance in a series connection. Every battery will balance to it's rated voltage independently. If the battery is cycled a lot at a high c-rate then this might become a problem.

  • @miroperinich2495
    @miroperinich2495 2 місяці тому

    I am a qualified fitter for solar photovoltaic systems. I am interested in what would be the order of the budget for one system. What does it start from?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      It depends on how much power you consume and how long you want the battery to last on cloudy days. off-grid is going to be more expensive than on-grid. But if the power company charges more than installing an off-grid system, then the choice is clear.

  • @COOSA6870
    @COOSA6870 17 днів тому

    How do I hook a lipo charger on 3- 100ah lipo phosphate batteries wired in parallel???

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  16 днів тому

      Just the same as the wiring diagrams on the video

  • @rehoye
    @rehoye 3 місяці тому

    What value is there in isolating the batteries with shotky diodes?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      Never heard of it, so i assume nothing. Why do you think this is beneficial?

  • @RobJamgo
    @RobJamgo 19 днів тому

    I have an AIMS LiFEPO4 100Ah battery and want to add in parallel another 100Ah battery. AIMs no longer makes its 100Ah battery. Can I add a 100Ah of another brand? How does the BMS work if batteries are not the same? Any other considerations? Looking at Litime 100Ah to add... thanks - oyur site is great!

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  19 днів тому

      Thanks 🙏, yes you can add another battery in parallel. You can even have different capacity batteries in parallel.

    • @RobJamgo
      @RobJamgo 18 днів тому

      @@cleversolarpower Thanks for quick reply - there should not be any issues with different battery monitoring systems?

  • @rainerinedinburgh5807
    @rainerinedinburgh5807 3 місяці тому +2

    I think you've made a mistake. You emphasize the importance of having the same series resistance in the charging wires. You correctly recommend a pair of bus bars from which the wires to all battery terminals are of equal length. But your alternative solution for 5 batteries does not achieve equal resistance. If you have five batteries with four red and four blue link wires as shown at 2:50, then for batteries 2, 3, and 4, the series resistance consists of two link wire resistances (counting from the points where the main red and blue cables first split). There are two blue links for battery 2, two red links for battery 4, and one red plus one blue for battery 3. So far, so good. But batteries 1 and 5 each have four link resistances (one red plus three blue, or three red plus one blue). Surely, for equality, the main red wire should go to battery 1 and the main blue wire to battery 5. That way each battery has four link resistances in series with it.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      Indeed, it doesn't have equal resistance. This is how I would wire it if I don't want to use a busbar.

    • @diyEVguy
      @diyEVguy 3 місяці тому

      @rainerinedinburgh5807: Agreed. See also Victron Wiring Unlimited.

  • @RS474
    @RS474 4 місяці тому

    I must have missed the part where you explain what the Shunt is for?? Or is that in another video??

    • @rainerinedinburgh5807
      @rainerinedinburgh5807 3 місяці тому +1

      The shunt is for measuring the current going into and out of the battery bank. That way the charge controller (or perhaps a separate capacity meter) can keep track of, and show you, how full the batteries are.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      Couldn't have said it better.

  • @laurentsosson1739
    @laurentsosson1739 Місяць тому

    Good morning
    I have 2 packs of Lifepo with the same voltage but
    1 is 24 volt 1120 AH and the other is 24 volt 200AH
    I would also like to put // both
    I don't know if a fuse is needed between the two?
    otherwise my converter is a 4000 watts to 24 volts
    what do you think about implementing // the 2 packs?
    busbars between the 2?
    THANKS
    laurent

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  26 днів тому

      You should wire batteries in parallel. I have videos about fuse and cable sizes, check them out on my channel.

    • @laurentsosson1739
      @laurentsosson1739 26 днів тому

      I wanted to put the 2 packs on a busbars with 2 BMS and then busbars on converter

  • @user-lx9kj8qv3p
    @user-lx9kj8qv3p 2 місяці тому

    So I have a question, I have a 24 volts inverter and from my calculations, 3 lead acid batteries of 200Ah will be enough for my daily usage.
    Now how do I go about this, can I connect two of the 200Ah batteries in parallel thereby giving me 400Ah at 12v then connect this to a single 200Ah battery in series to give me a 24v battery bank?
    If this can be done, what will the total battery bank capacity be.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      You cannot connect different capacity batteries in series. You can only use 2 batteries.

  • @simon359
    @simon359 4 місяці тому

    I have two battery banks. Eight 12 V Battle Born Batteries in series parallel at 48 V. The next battery bank is four SOK 12 V batteries wired in series parallel, for 48 V.
    The only difference is that the Battle Born Batteries are 1C and the SOK are .5 C.
    I have them on separate shunts, because the battery voltage charging is slightly different.
    Both battery banks are run to a positive and negative busbar.
    I put each battery bank at their proper amp hours. On the Battle Born Batteries shunt I have 200 amp hours and for the SOK I have 100 amp hours. This gives me a total of 300 amp hours.
    The only thing I’m unsure of is whether to have my Victron Quattro 5000/48V inverter set at 300 amp hours?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, I dont see a reason why not. Since you said they have different voltage charging, why not set both to the lowest recommended voltage voor charging, for example 57.6V instead of 58.4V. then you can use one shunt for the whole battery bank, and every battery is in the recommended range.

    • @simon359
      @simon359 4 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower
      Using two different shunts, I can dial in the exact voltage recommended per manufacture, for each battery bank. There’s quite a bit of difference between each charge setting. 55.2 for SOK and 56.8 for BB. This gives me the ability to set the charge controllers for the best average. 🖖

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому

      Then i would set it at 55.2V, you are not going to 'waste' much capacity by lowering the voltage of your whole battery bank. And lithium likes not being charged all the way up to 100%.

  • @Jon-fs2zj
    @Jon-fs2zj 4 місяці тому

    What if you wanted to charge 7 batteries go two groups 3 and 4?

  • @taiwomathew8969
    @taiwomathew8969 4 місяці тому

    How can I access your e-books

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  4 місяці тому

      You get get it on amazon or on my website in the 'shop' section.

  • @markpotter3057
    @markpotter3057 3 місяці тому

    Hi there, mark here from Australia. I have two 135ah lithium batteries in parallel and two 300w panels in series . So I have 270ah and 600w of power going through the charge controller. Have I got that setup right or do you recommend another way if it’s an overkill. Kind regards, mark.

    • @markpotter3057
      @markpotter3057 3 місяці тому

      Sorry I forgot to say I’m using a 2000w to 4000w pure sine wave inverter converter DC12v to AC240v unit

    • @markpotter3057
      @markpotter3057 3 місяці тому

      Hi there I get the charge of the batteries thank you. When I send that charge to the inverter, how is that done please. 🤓🤓

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому

      600W/14.6=41A going to your batteries at max output.
      2000W/12V=167A -> ok for lithium.
      Check my video on sizing wires and fuses.

  • @joemaxxcapri1799
    @joemaxxcapri1799 3 місяці тому

    I have only 3 Agm

  • @ivanwayne2507
    @ivanwayne2507 2 місяці тому

    Contemplating the following set up: adding 4 identical 100 amp Li batteries-3 will be in series for a 36 volt trolling motor. 1 will power an audio amp an isotherm 12 volt fridge. I will have a NOCO Marine 4 pole charger when plugged into shore power-thinking of charging when running motors with a DC-DC charger. Looking at the Vectran XS. Can I charge all 4 batteries with this DC-DC charger if I use a busbar? Thanks. Your videos are super helpful

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for your sub! So your three batteries will run the trolling motor, and one battery will run a 12V fridge? Ideally, you need a 12V charger and a 36V charger. However, you can also charge the three 12V batteries if you manually switch them when one is full. However, this is not practical, so you need a separate 36V charger.

    • @ivanwayne2507
      @ivanwayne2507 2 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower Sort of: three of the batteries in series to run the trolling motor while the 4th one would be a house battery. Each battery will have a shore power charging from a 12 volt Noco Marine charger that will individually charge each battery as they are needed. When I am not on shore power I am wanting to charge the batteries with a DC-DC charger using a busbar. Not sure if the DC-DC charger will do that properly or do I need 4 DC-DC chargers

  • @sportsupdate1413
    @sportsupdate1413 Місяць тому

    Is this possible? = 2 batteries 12V 100AH each, connected in SERIES (Result: 24V 100AH). And after that this will be connected in PARALLEL with 1 battery 24V 100AH (Result: 24V 200AH). Thank you!

  • @Entity005
    @Entity005 2 місяці тому

    Question. i got hold of 57 free batteries of 6volt 4,5Ah NiMH type of batterys .. Thats a lot of batteries.. i wish to make a giant powerbank in parallel connection .. Is there something i have to remeber? ... do i need thicker cables then the ones that already are on the batteries? how is it when i charge that many batteries in parallell ? do i need a super charger? or just use a normal charger that will just take much longer time?
    I also got a hold on 43 of 4 cells NiCd batteries with a voltage of 4,8 and they have 4,5Ah -- planned to make a 2nd powerpack with those. All batteries are only 3 years old and they are fully functional.. they had to be replaced because of strict rules on batteries that feed emergency light on ship .. they get replaced every 3 years even the law say 5 years.. guess shipping company just want to make sure their ok .. they have been maintain charged trough the years they been active.. and they only sometimes get used on test of the emergency light onboard.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому

      The 57 batteries are not that big actually. Assuming they have 100% of their capacity left, it's only 1,500Wh. A little more than a 12V 100Ah battery which now cost $260. Your second battery is 928Wh, close to a 12V 100Ah battery. So would you rather spend a lot of time, money for a BMS and not knowing if it is safe than buying two 12V 100Ah batteries for $520? I think you know the answer.

  • @christiangusy1246
    @christiangusy1246 3 місяці тому

    Hello. Your books are no more available. What's the problem ?
    Thank You.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому +1

      It has always been available on Amazon.com

    • @christiangusy1246
      @christiangusy1246 3 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower thank You for your rapid answer.
      I wish You a good day. Chris

  • @SamCarleton
    @SamCarleton 3 місяці тому

    Last summer I bought a lithium battery and want to purchase another one and hook them in series, is that safe?

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, just be aware of balancing issues. Check my video about batteries in series.

    • @SamCarleton
      @SamCarleton 3 місяці тому

      @@cleversolarpower thank you. I was going to use a battery balancer

  • @louf7178
    @louf7178 3 місяці тому

    I trickle charged two batteries in parallel, but find this not good enough. The difference of conditions leads me to believe the weaker battery undercharges and therefore could sulfate. Therefore, I individually "top" them off.

    • @dnomyarnostaw
      @dnomyarnostaw 3 місяці тому

      I presume they are lead acid? You didn't say.
      He seems to think all examples have s battery management system.

  • @grahamjohnbarr
    @grahamjohnbarr 9 днів тому

    I need to know the wiring "in" from the Controller, then the wiring "out" to the Inverter. No-body shows that.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  9 днів тому +1

      I have made videos about selecting wire size if that's what you mean.

    • @grahamjohnbarr
      @grahamjohnbarr 9 днів тому

      @@cleversolarpower No, I have the right sizes. What I want to know is the wires coming from the Controller connect to which Battery terminals. Then the wires going from the Battery to the Inverter are connected to which Terminals on the Battery.
      I have four 300W panels connected to the Controller. Then from the Controller to the Battery's. Then from the Battery's to the Inverter. As it should be.
      I want to use the fan model as in the "Better." You have all the Positive Leads connected to a single point then a wire going "out" to the Inverter?
      All the Negative Terminal wires connect to a single point, then a wire going out to the inverter from that point, but no diagram of the Negative wire coming in from the Controller.
      All the Positive Terminal wires also connect to single Positive point then a wire going out to the Inverter from that point, but no diagram of the Positive wire coming in from the Controller.

  • @davemac521
    @davemac521 2 місяці тому

    Know your battery chemistry.batteries should always be within a specific voltage when connectin in parallel or serial. Lithium batteries should always be fully charged and within .2 tenths of chage difference.

  • @davemac521
    @davemac521 2 місяці тому

    Never install batteries of different ratings in any battery bank. The bank will not equalize and the lower capacity battery will reduce the capacity of the larger batterie. Reducing over all capacity of the entire battery bank over time.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  2 місяці тому +1

      Like I said in the video, you can parallel different capacity batteries.

  • @mINGzTH
    @mINGzTH 3 місяці тому

    I would like to be clear. Parallel different capacity batterries is ok to do or not?

  • @johnbrown6189
    @johnbrown6189 3 місяці тому

    This expiation is not correct at all. If the voltage rating of the batteries is the same even though they are different capacity batteries they will supply the same current to the load.

    • @cleversolarpower
      @cleversolarpower  3 місяці тому +1

      No, try it yourself.

    • @rk_bhartiya
      @rk_bhartiya 3 місяці тому

      Nooooo

    • @johnbrown6189
      @johnbrown6189 3 місяці тому +1

      I don't need to. My statement is correct. Try looking at it like this. Using a 10L (10AH bat) tank, 5L(5AH bat) tank, 5mm tee hose where the tanks are connected and the third end goes to a valve then to atmosphere. The tanks are sitting in such a way that the water levels are at the same height. Now open the valve water will drain from both tanks equally same as in batteries. @@cleversolarpower