Euro Nymphing: Top 5 Do's and Don'ts
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- In this video we cover the Top 5 Do's and Don'ts while Euro Nymphing. I am certain there are other key points. Some that may even out rank the tips and advice given here. However, after a year plus of doing guided fly fishing trips, these 5 things I find myself providing a lot of feedback on how to tweak and improve the foundation anglers I take out have.
Leave a comment if you have advice you would give someone. What is a problem/concern you see with other beginners? Share your knowledge and add to the conversation!
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Thanks for sharing these tips, they’re a great reminder that the details make a difference! Tight lines. 🎣
Hey Mike! Good pointers,will definitely help people move along in their development. That was real nice water. 40 trips already that is awesome!Tight lines my friend!
Hey Dale! Hopefully a few people take away something to add to the tool box. About 40 taken and 10 more by Sept 1. Would like to add 4-6 more and then cool off till spring I think. We shall see. Been a fun and busy year for sure.
Great teaching Mike. All those are things i need to learn.
Thanks for the compliment David. Had fun showing people what I see consistently and how to make small adjustments to help. Tight lines!
The one thing I didn’t see you talk about but you actually did quite a bit in the video is being a one handed fisher, the most important thing in euro nymphing (in my opinion) would be like management. George Daniel talks about it too where you should only use your rod arm to cast and set hooks where your off hand is used to manage line. This really helps with keeping a softer touch on your sighter. Other than that this is a great video, even for someone who’s been euro nymphing for a long time I learned a couple things!
Very well said. So as I personally fish I think the “off hand” is critical. It helps us gain contact almost immediately as flies enter the water, and sustain through our drifts. What I find, most often with beginners, is they struggle to utilize that second hand and manage their line efficiently. So very often on a first trip out I have them work with a fixed like of 15-18 feet costs, so we don’t need it as much to start. Then as they get comfortable and see what drifts need to look like and adjust to longer lighter rods, I’ll work in that second hand and line management. Excellent suggestion! I do a pulley retrieve, versus his hand twists. But to each their own on how they donor.
Great video, good and valuable information! Thanks for sharing!
I appreciate it Jerome. Thanks for watching and commenting as always. Tight lines buddy!
Awesome info! I really liked the section on sighter angle, that is super important and really dictates the drift.
Cool, glad you enjoyed Justin. I agree that angle can make a world of difference. Many changes can be made situationally. But overall that’s a good rule of thumb as you know. Tight lines!
Real good stuff right there. You are a very good teacher.
Thanks a lot! Appreciate you watching and glad you found it useful. Tight lines the next time you hit the stream.
Bro netted a fry 😆 jokes aside thanks for the tips and time you took to make the video. The fighting techniques demonstrated are paramount with larger fish I was just surprised when I saw what you were fighting haha. These tips are very helpful tho I had a bad habit of letting fish run downstream and breaking me off when it came to netting. Tight lines!
Sadly I did. I was out of time and wanted to at least make sure the technique was shown. However, to your point, I wish it was on an average fish minimally lol. Barely put a bend in the rod, but counted! Tight lines and thanks for watching.
Thank you so much, those points are definitely necessary for additional practice, the casting portion was especially helpful to me since I am relatively new to Euto Fishing,
MSG Leum
Glad it was helpful! Thanks a lot for watching and commenting. Just like anything in life, practice is all it takes. Enjoy your time on the water and glad I could help some. I will be releasing a video series in 2024 that is far more in depth and with better videography. I hope you will watch and pick up some tips. Tight lines and happy holidays!
Really helpful and glad to see the video. Working on my fall schedule and hope to contact you soon for a late fall one
Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching! I would enjoy taking you out and helping make any improvements we can across a half or full day trip. I’ll take 2-3 trips in sept and October. I expect those slots will fill by mid august, if not sooner. Hopefully we can work something out and if not always the spring 👍🏻 tight lines till I see you!
Hello Mike! Great tutorial! I have a lot to work in. All the best.
Eh, we all do! Hopefully one little tip or technique helps you the next time out. Tight lines!
Cheers Mike, going out for grayling next week, with more confidence.
Thanks for watching! Never caught a Grayling. They are beautiful. Hope you lay into them good. Tight lines 🎣
Totally awesome
Thanks Dave! I find myself using these concepts a lot on guide trips. I figured I would help share with some other people if it helps.
That looks like fun.
Thank you for so clearly explaining and demonstrating all 5 tips. Great stuff!
Thanks Eric. Tough to self film the technical stuff and try to catch fish at the same time. You can appreciate it 😎 tight lines my friend!
Nice Video.... Great tips .... Did you do any videos on setting up a Euro Rod? Thanks again
Not yet! I may need to consider one. I am getting ready to edit a leader video that covers stuff similar to this question. Hope you will check it out. Tight lines!
thanks for the tips mike! just got into euro nymphing. just a quick question, im waiting to feel a tug from a fish while leading my flys, correct? Thanks for all the tip! Tight lines
Thanks for watching! I’d suggest not waiting to feel a fish. By then it is usually a bit late. Focus on abnormalities of the sighter during drift. Pause, speed up, angle change, possibly the feel of a tap. )However, the majority of fish I catch I do not feel it.
@@tightliningmd thanks for clearing that up!
Thx for the tips Mike. You have the teacher gift. Tightlines my friend!
Thanks for watching Craig. Hope all is well. Appreciate the kind words and tight lines.
Good tips
Thank you!
Gorgeous water and good info, but I did giggle a bit when you demonstrated how best to to fight a 4” fish. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.
Lol I respect that. Process vs outcome. Throughout the day I had caught a few decent fish, but either was recording different teaching points or was doing just a different video in the trip itself. So when I wanted to record the landing fish content sadly I got two small ones and said to myself it was just meant to be a guess. So although I look foolish doing it, the concept still reigns supreme. Thanks for watching a couple videos and commenting. I appreciate it
What’s a good leader setup, i tried using a micro leader setup and casted and ended up snapping my tip first cast unfortunately
Hey,
I have done two leader videos on the ones I have used when starting out and progressing through some new builds. I recorded one, that I haven't release that I now prefer. I will have that up in the coming weeks/month. There are endless options and it is good to experiment. However, each leader does have a specific reason why it is built the way it is. I might need to create a video specifically on that!
The place is very beautiful, but are there bigger fish in that stream?
Hey Jorge. It’s a beautiful stream known best for smaller than average fish. There are big ones in there. But when I recorded this we were mod drought and dead of summer. All the good fish had sought refuge. Avg fish in that stream is about 8 inches.
Thanks for watching and hopefully tomorrow when I go back some above average fish are landed 👍🏻
Do you need a special setup to EURO Nymph fly fish??
Hey Mark,
Need, no. However, I highly encourage someone who is serious to have a 10' 3 wt. approximately. I will be releasing a Euro Nymphing Series in 2024 that discussed rod and reel options and specifics on what I would select when buying/considering.
However, when I first started I use an 8'6" 4 wt rod, because I had just bought it then someone taught me the technique. I upgraded about 6 months later.
Tight lines and have fun out there!
I keep having a problem where my line angles back towards me, as it drifts. Like, somewhere between the rod tip and the reel. It's really quite annoying. You boy get nice right angle, or slightly less, drifts... What am I doing wrong?
What kind of line are you using and what type of leader?
@@tightliningmd mono.. with flourocarboan tippet... I have the same problem when nymphing with a fly line and a shorter mono/flouro section also.
@@stefang6213 I definitely have that problem when using fly line, not Euro Fly Line. However, I have never had the problem you mentioned before with a thin leader. I wonder if the mono you are using is "heavy"? I could see a scenario where MAYBE 20 lb could come back some. However, even that would surprise me some.
Great tips, but for a newbie, I don’t even know what a ‘sighter’ is. I couldn’t see the line or leader when you were demonstrating drifts so I don’t know what you were trying to show.other than your verbal description. Were you using a sinking line? Sorry to get lost quickly but I just couldn’t see what you were trying to do.
Hey Raleigh,
That is good honest feedback. Thank you! With only a Go-Pro that was hard to demonstrate up close. I am glad you brought it up though. I actually just recorded a series this summer, that is in process of editing, where I did get close ups, drone shots, slo mo shots, etc. My goal is to release that over the winter and early part of the spring. Hopefully you will come back to check it out and get a better more step by step direction for how to and with better camera work. Sadly it was costly to get the outdoor media company to record and edit, but the final product I think will be one of the best on UA-cam, I am biased though :)
Thanks for the reply! I look forward to seeing the video when it comes out. I’ve since watched a few of your videos, and just love them. You are a great instructor. And I subscribed to your channel!
hi mr slep
Hi Henry
Great video buddy, perfect for a beginner like myself. One aspect i have struggled with is casting, you have just explained it perfectly thank you 👍
Casting is very overlooked in Euro Nymphing. So many slap the water or just plop flies in. However, once you dial in cast and finish the sky is the limit for fish caught. Tight lines and have fun out there in 2024!
I remember my first fish
That jokes so old the first time I heard it I fell of my dinosaur.
walk the dog, catch the fish!
As a pet owner it’s a solid plan and analogy. Helps me reinforce when I try to explain to a guest. Just worked out this time to catch a fish explaining it!
I think the only way I will understand what my boy is saying is by actually fly fishing. Never been but have all the equipment and even make flies. Yeah, I know... I just don't know the area that well.
I agree. Trial and error on the water can’t be replaced. I think it helps to get a base form readings and video. However, practice and time on water is best. Working with fly shops and guides help cut down learning curves too. Get out there in 2023 and have some fun!
@@tightliningmd and that’s what I was searching for, a baseline so I know how to read the situation. I know what to look for, the techniques I’ve learned, but NO EXPERIENCE what so ever. At least I have vid like this to help get started. Thank you for it! I subbed. Lol!
I appreciate it. I’ll be doing a series in spring.
@@tightliningmd looking forward to it!
Please get a wireless mic
Agreed! Thanks for the feedback
I'm confused... from everything I've learned so far the "whipping sound" while casting should NOT be heard and means you're casting to hard.
When you said "wrist" flick in the second point you didn't move your wrist,you moved your elbow.
Theres a lot you're discussing that's really opposite of what I've seen in other videos.
Thanks for the feedback. Enjoy the other videos.
Watch any video with top fly anglers like Devin Olsen and Lance Evan who are euronymphing and you’ll hear that whip on most casts. Go try to cast a single 2.8mm fly without making a sound and you probably won’t turn over your rig.
@@rileyezzo657 you’ve literally stuck your foot in your mouth with that ridiculous comment
Bloody hell! I've only tuned in for around sixty seconds and immediately I find you are a molly-dooker (left hander, cack-handed or whatever). How can you have credibility when you are afflicted to such a degree? Most of the fish in our rivers and streams are right handed too. What hope have we got?
Bill this was a gold comment. Well played. Let’s hope the fish in my streams don’t figure out I am a left handed fraud. Tight lines!
"Stop rod tip high. Don't finish with rod tip near the water." Proceeds to stop rod low with rod tip near the water. Hmmm.
Appreciate you watching. Thanks for commenting. However, I’ve watched it back and I don’t agree with your comment. If you stop too low or too high they all have negative impacts to cast and what it does to accuracy and landing spot. All the demonstrated casts are good. If I stop any higher or lower I wouldn’t have hit intended target. What I see far too often is people finishing with rod basically on water. All of mine finished at shoulder height, maybe the last slightly lower. However, it demonstrated the point I intended to make. You are welcome to troll and disagree, but the point was valid and the demonstration was accurate.
@@tightliningmd Pointing out that your rid tip is finishing low when you want it to finish high is hardly "trolling", it's just pointing out the obvious. Every cast it finishes below your shoulder, but that quibble is beside the point because even shoulder height is too low. You're not stopping your rod tip high - you're driving it low, then pulling it back up. If for some odd reason you can't hit the intended target then you're just casting wrong.
A tuck cast can be accomplished by literally stopping your rod at 12 o'clock and letting the flies flip over. You're trying to add a bunch of oomph to your cast by throwing your rod tip and flies down hard. You can even hear the whipping sound on video.
This was all explained by Joe Humphreys literally 40 years ago in Trout Tactics. Go look at the diagrams in the book and see what a high rod looks like.
Or watch Devin do it. You're basically doing what he says not to do. Your rod looks exactly like his at 2:55.
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@@spikeconley I admire the depth you have put into the response. The easy route is to not provide insight, so for that I definitely give you credit.
I used the word "troll" because there is a difference between this response and your first. This response actually might help me, or someone else. Your first was intended to backhandedly be rude. It does neither you nor I any benefit.
I have watched Devin, Josh Miller, Domenick Swentovsky, George and those alike in the Euro-Centric Industry, I will watch the clip you sent over as well.
As far as sound goes, I agree it is loud. I also agree it is unnecessary to hear it. Not to make excuses, but in post (editing) I had to blast the sound in some clips, specifically the one you are referring to. I did not have the luxury of an external mic/lavalier and was 20 feet from the camera. Therefore, in order to hear me I had to amplify all sounds, which makes it so you can hear me, but as a result also hear any rod motion. Typically a water loaded cast and focusing on a solid 180 principle, something Devin Olsen preaches, is a good starting point. I agree the whipping sound on an actual cast is not needed and is actually a cue you are likely putting too must force into your cast. I have no issue with it if you are using it to "clear/feed line" to prepare a forward cast. I am using Maxima Chameleon and many times, given it has no mass, it takes some level of effort to get that line our to begin the casting process. I have recently adapted to a micro leader and taking advantage of using some of the Euro Fly line being off the reel. This has benefitted the point you raised with sound.
I don't claim to be perfect, nor omniscient. However, I definitely find myself to be always looking to learn and humble. Your second response is appreciated and thanks for taking the time to sculpt it.
Regards and tight lines.
Greatly overuses “basically”
Agreed